A VERY Special Episode

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – "A VERY Special Episode"

Episode Information:

• Title: A VERY Special Episode
• Release Date: July 14, 2025
• Hosts: Josh Peck and Ben Soffer
• Guest: Deuce McBride, New York Knicks Player and Children's Book Author

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Introduction

In this particularly special episode of the Good Guys podcast, hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer delve into a variety of engaging topics, ranging from parenting anecdotes to the dynamics of living in different locales. The episode also features a heartfelt guest appearance by Deuce McBride, a professional basketball player for the New York Knicks and author of the children's book Champion of Friendship. Throughout the episode, the trio shares humorous insights, personal stories, and thoughtful discussions, all punctuated with their signature witty banter.

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Parenting and Family Life

The episode opens with Ben sharing delightful stories about his five-week-old son, Ruby. His enthusiasm for outdoor activities is evident as he describes taking Ruby on walks, emphasizing the importance of fresh air and safety over urban dangers.

Notable Quote:

Ben (00:48): "He loves a good breeze. I think all babies do, but him in particular, my God, he'll sleep forever if he just walks and walks and gets the breeze in his hair."

Josh humorously fantasizes about a “permanent baby,” highlighting the challenges and joys of parenthood.

Notable Quote:

Josh (01:24): "Imagine God came down and said, I can give you an accessory baby, right? Like, beautiful Ruby will grow into the beautiful man that he will always be. But I can give you a baby that always kind of stays a baby and enjoys a breeze."

The conversation transitions to the realities of baby care, including the humorous challenges of keeping Ruby clean and the inevitable occurrences of baby odors.

Notable Quote:

Josh (03:00): "Okay, you wanna tell. I didn't know we're at the south of France in the middle of West Hollywood. Oh, I just sniffed my son Meyer's."

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Living in the Hamptons vs. City Life

Ben discusses his recent move to the Hamptons, contrasting it with the city's hustle and emphasizing the family-friendly environment, including farmer's markets and safe outdoor spaces for children.

Notable Quote:

Ben (05:04): "There's nothing like my happy place is cooking outside. Like that's why it's such a shonda that I don't live in the suburbs because I can do this any every day as opposed to just two months out of the year."

Josh explores a hypothetical scenario where Ben might consider relocating to Florida based on family and personal preferences, underscoring the importance of proximity to loved ones.

Notable Quote:

Josh (05:42): "If you could let it go, yeah, it could seriously have to think about moving."

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“What Are You Nuts?” Segments

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in their recurring “What Are You Nuts?” segments, where they humorously comment on peculiar behaviors and situations.

1. Jaywalking in Monte Carlo:

   • Olivia (09:23): "Imagine jaywalking in Monte Carlo. That's a big fear."
   • Josh (09:31): "Yeah, I want that baby feast. You're the baguette baby fist."

2. Transport Team Tip:

   • Josh (25:04): "If you were the guy who was on the transport team at Cedars Sinai, and you would want to send cash to thank them."

3. Receiving an AI-Generated Apology:

   • Olivia (34:37): "Are you nuts? Using ChatGPT for heartfelt apologies defeats the purpose entirely."

These segments are interspersed with humorous reflections on daily observations and personal experiences, adding a light-hearted flair to the episode.

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Audience Interaction

Listeners contribute to the discussion through SpeakPipe messages, posing questions and seeking advice on various personal matters. Notably, one listener inquires about the etiquette of not purchasing a gift for a casual reception, prompting Josh and Ben to debate the importance of giving gifts irrespective of the event's formality.

Notable Quote:

Ben (22:03): "I would send a wedding present even if it's a small reception. It's about being a good friend."

Another listener raises concerns about AI-generated apologies in relationships, sparking a conversation on the authenticity and sincerity of using tools like ChatGPT for personal communications.

Notable Quote:

Ben (32:45): "Using it for heartfelt messages is very bizarre because it's not your heart."

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Guest Interview: Deuce McBride

The episode features an exclusive interview with Deuce McBride, a standout player for the New York Knicks and the author of Champion of Friendship. Deuce shares insights into his role as a professional athlete and father, the challenges of sleepless nights, and the motivation behind writing his children's book.

Key Topics Discussed:

1. Parenthood:

   • Deuce (42:46): Discusses adjusting to fatherhood with minimal sleep and the support from family members.
   • Notable Quote: "I haven't had a full night's sleep in like five and a half weeks."

2. Professional Basketball:

   • Training and Physicality:

     • Deuce (52:31): Highlights the significant jump in physicality from high school to college.
     • Notable Quote: "The intensity's risen and the quantity has risen of just how much you're playing."

   • Game Day Routine:

     • Deuce (63:56): Outlines his rigorous game day schedule, including walkthroughs, shootarounds, physical treatments, and preparation rituals.
     • Notable Quote: "It's a full day... from 8:30 to 10:30."

3. Writing Champion of Friendship:

   • Motivation and Goals:
     • Deuce (75:07): Explains his desire to positively influence children through storytelling and the importance of teaching the right ways of friendship and discipline.
     • Notable Quote: "Being able to teach the youth the right way of doing things will make the world a better place in general."

Notable Exchange:

Josh (75:28): "Why write a children's book? That's my first question."

Deuce (75:07): "I wanted to write a book about friendship and really guide children positively."

The conversation also touches on the parallels between professional sports and other high-performance fields, the significance of genetics and training in athletic success, and Deuce's experiences interacting with renowned players like LeBron James.

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Closing Remarks and Final “What Are You Nuts?” Moments

As the episode wraps up, Josh, Ben, and Deuce share their final “What Are You Nuts?” moments, reflecting on amusing personal encounters:

1. Dad Celebrating a Championship While Asleep:

   • Deuce (76:45): Mentions a father celebrating his son's championship win by being asleep on stage.
   • Notable Quote: "That's my 'what are you nuts' moment of the week."

2. Over-the-Top Polo Collars:

   • Ben (77:53): Observes a man excessively flaunting his polo collar at Starbucks.
   • Notable Quote: "We're still popping collars, Josh. We're still popping collars."

3. Costco Sample Station Sabotage:

   • Josh (78:18): Describes a humorous scenario where a coworker takes all the garlic toast samples meant for him.
   • Notable Quote: "These are not for you. No. She's not buying anything."

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Conclusion

Good Guys delivers a memorable and multifaceted episode that blends humor, personal stories, and insightful discussions. The interactions between Josh, Ben, and their guest Deuce McBride offer listeners a genuine glimpse into their lives as parents, professionals, and friends. The episode not only entertains but also provides thoughtful perspectives on parenting, professional sports, and maintaining authenticity in personal relationships.

Final Notable Quote:

Ben (79:02): "You know what else is fantastic, Josh? This podcast. Deuce McBride, new book. Great guy. We can find you@deuce mcbride on Instagram."

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Josh]

The following podcast is a dear media production. Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the Good Guys. A mother's dream Premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys.

[Ben]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts? What are you nuts?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys. Mazzle. Morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. Ben, how are you?

[Ben]

I'm wonderful, my friend. How are you?

[Josh]

Hampton Harry over there.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's. It's pretty sweet. This is the summer of Ruby. Josh. This is. Look, when you're a city boy and you have a city kid, you need greenery. You need places to walk where you're not afraid that the guy in the corner is going to throw his needle and it's going to hit him in the leg or something. You need friends, fresh air. No needles in sight. We're walking. Nice. I know you love a good walk. We're walking everywhere. Okay. I'm getting in my steps. Beautiful breeze in my hair. He loves. He loves a good breeze. I think all babies do, but him in particular, my God, he'll sleep forever if he just walks and walks and gets the breeze in his hair. It's fantastic.

[Josh]

What? Imagine God came down and said, I can give you an accessory baby, right? Like, beautiful Ruby will grow into the beautiful man that he will always be. But I can give you a baby that always kind of stays a baby and enjoys a breeze. And they're sleep trained, so it comes around four and a half months, but they sleep most of the day and you can just roll them. I would take that.

[Ben]

Okay. Yeah, just a permanent baby.

[Josh]

A pet baby.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

That'd be fun.

[Ben]

Honestly, it sounds fun. So you're telling me sleeps through the night?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

So you get your sleep eating solid foods or. Or just formula breasts like milk. Or just milk.

[Josh]

Like a hamster. Like, it turns over and it's been.

[Ben]

By the way, as long as it's not Ruby, because I need. I need to see what happens to him. As long as it's just like another. I'm down. They're just fun.

[Josh]

They're so cute.

[Ben]

They're so cute. You really gotta get in between those creases, though. Oof. It's tough. I told you that. Under his armpit. It was smelling like cheese.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

You don't know, like you have to rip up their arm. They don't want to lift it. You have to really get in there and clean. So I would want. The baby would need to be completely clean.

[Josh]

Ok. Have you smelled his fists yet? Does he hold fists a lot? Give it a month.

[Ben]

I haven't smelled it. I haven't smelled it. No. But we're giving him a nightly bath regardless. Yeah, okay.

[Josh]

You're in for a stench, a funk. You want to talk cheese?

[Ben]

Yuck.

[Josh]

Roquefort, my boy.

[Ben]

Yucky.

[Josh]

Okay, you wanna tell. I didn't know we're at the south of France in the middle of West Hollywood. Oh, I just sniffed my son Meyer's.

[Ben]

Fist.

[Josh]

Because they're clenched all day and.

[Ben]

We lost all our French listeners by the way. We had none. Ok. There's no cross over.

[Josh]

Do you want that? No, I want that baby feast. You're the baguette baby fist. Oh man. Yeah. Babies are just so. They're really special.

[Ben]

They're gorgeous. In this age is priceless. That said, I'm very excited to see. I want to see him smile, I want to see him talk. I think you feel that way because you have them walking and talking.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

I like. I need to see what happens next. I'm on like episode one season one of a frickin crazy just unbelievable series. How long do I take this? I lost my train of thought. What do you call the what analogy? Like how deep do I take this analogy? But yeah, I'm excited to just like see more of Ruby. But I'm loving taking him everywhere. Today we went to King Cullen, okay, the grocery store. I wheeled him through the aisles, picked up a couple of things. You know, Josh, we're deep in fork of July. I don't know if you know that, but this is the, this is the month of the fork and we are making recipes, cooking up a storm. There's nothing like my happy place is cooking outside. Like that's why it's a shonda that I don't live in the suburbs because I can do this any every day as opposed to just two months out of the year. But my happy place is shopping and cooking something outside. Not even on the grill. Like I just cook everything outside. I'll chop outside and then I'll cook inside. But as much time as I can spend with food outside, it's my happy place.

[Josh]

I'm dying to know the hypothetical of if, let's say your parents and basically everybody moved to Florida. Like your closest family moved to Florida and you were in the city 10 times a year for business trips and whatnot. It's an easy hop. Two and a half hours to the city from Boca or wherever, you know, south of Florida, is that I see you in that scenario. You love golfing. You love cooking outside. I know New York is your. I know it is a part of your identity. And I also know you're convinced it's a part of your identity. But I also wonder, quality of life, if you could let it go.

[Ben]

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to talk about it because it sends me down a hellhole. But, like, depending on the way that this election turns in New York, I could seriously have to think about moving. So we. I'm thinking about it for the first time in my life. I don't want to do it. I really don't. City materially changes. It will make it significantly easier. That said, if my parents don't move, I probably still won't move. It's really my parents. I don't want to be without them. I don't want them to see Ruby 10 times a year. I don't like that. Like, it's the same thing with my sister. If everybody I loved said we're moving to Florida, I would move to Florida. I would move anywhere that everybody I loved moved.

[Josh]

Let's play this fun game because I know that you and I could both crush it. Olivia, feel free to jump in. Let's throw out random cities because I love one of the great. Robbie Hoffman. One of her favorite lines of mine that I love because I hate when people are proud where they're from. When she goes, everywhere's a dump. You just pick your dump. Okay. And I agree. I can find something wrong with everywhere. So let's throw out. I'll throw out a place and then you can crap on it and move on to the. We'll just ping pong.

[Ben]

Love it.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Ben]

Love it.

[Josh]

So let's go. So I'll give you an easy one. New York.

[Olivia]

Too expensive.

[Ben]

Yeah. Too dirty.

[Josh]

Got it. Give me one. Give me one.

[Ben]

Portland.

[Josh]

Portland, Oregon. I knew you were gonna say that. Rainy. So rainy.

[Ben]

What it is.

[Josh]

Depression, Pacific Northwest, all the rain. Okay. Okay, here's one. Sydney, Australia.

[Ben]

Haven't been and it looks unbelievable. I would say that for me, the flight's a little bit too long.

[Josh]

Too far.

[Ben]

24 hours into.

[Josh]

What do you know?

[Ben]

But if I. But if I lived there, it seems lovely.

[Olivia]

Giant spiders, giant snakes, things everywhere crawling in your house. What do you do about that? I don't want to deal with that. That's my problem.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

100% wow.

[Ben]

By the way. And I haven't even about the creepy crawlers they're huge and gross. Can't live there. No good. This is what happens when you live in the tropics. No good.

[Josh]

Crazy.

[Ben]

No good. Okay, okay.

[Josh]

Humid bugs. Please. Paul Wall. Driving around all the time. Not a lot of access to healthy food, I would imagine.

[Ben]

Totally. You know what Charles Barkley says about the women of San Antonio?

[Josh]

What?

[Ben]

Have you seen those clips? You're lying. Oh, my God. I have to send them to you. He just thinks that the women in San Antonio are morbidly obese and talks about it all the time on air. On air. He's like, literally on air. He'll just, like, randomly transition to. Yeah, those women in San Antonio, you know, the women in San Antonio are enormous.

[Josh]

The only spur I see is on their way to go against a charcuterie board.

[Ben]

You have to look this up. He does it on tnt. It's unbelievable.

[Josh]

Oh, man.

[Ben]

All right, I'll give you one more. Oh, no, you'll do.

[Josh]

We'll do beautiful. And it's more fun when you pick, like, beautiful places.

[Ben]

Than intentionally picking dumps.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Ben]

A bee's not a dump.

[Josh]

A bee's not a dump. Oh, wow.

[Ben]

It seems fun. Fun, fun, fun, fun. Just like, give me a magic pill and let me dance the night away. What could be bad about Ibiza? I guess dying of an overdose.

[Josh]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Ben]

Yeah, that. That would be the downfall. Death.

[Josh]

Bubbles everywhere. Because all those foam parties.

[Ben]

Death. Yeah. What about Monte Carlo?

[Josh]

Prohibitorily expensive.

[Olivia]

Lots of cars spinning really fast around that racetrack. And the yachts are all there. I don't want to get hit by a car next to a restaurant.

[Josh]

Noise pollution from F1.

[Ben]

Imagine. Imagine. Imagine jaywalking in Monte Carlo. That's a. What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Holy smokes. Has anybody ever been arrested for jaywalking or is this just, like, a big fear?

[Josh]

I was detained.

[Ben]

I actually think I know. I think I know the story. Yeah.

[Josh]

And I've tried to fake an asthma attack and he wasn't hearing it.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's. That cop was just, like, having a bad day. That's a terrible ticket to get. Terrible.

[Josh]

I'll tell you another fun police story. My son was first kindergarten class. They got a tour of our local police department. And it was super fun. And so we go. And I was one of the chaperone dads. And I'm with another one of my favorite dads. So the best part of the tour was, you know, they're giving the kids a tour of all the police station and the cars and everything. And then they go through the gear that they carry on their body. Like, this is our vest, this is a flashlight, this is a radio. And then they get to the firearm, and it's a great teaching moment, right? Teach kids about gun safety. Like, this is our firearm, and this is what police officers carry. And if you ever come in contact at your own house, at a friend's house, and you see a gun, what should you do? And one of the kids puts his hand up and goes, pick it up and fire it. It's like, someone get that kid in an after school program. The cops were like, no, no. What are you not?

[Ben]

How old is this kid? And please, what is his name?

[Josh]

Six. I don'. I don't know.

[Ben]

Oh, my God, that is hysterical. What does he look like? Does he have like a little mullet, like a gap in his teeth? Fire.

[Josh]

And fire it.

[Ben]

Just like my Daddy is doing 25 to life.

[Josh]

It was so good.

[Ben]

I was like, oh, my God, that is hysterical.

[Josh]

So good.

[Ben]

Honestly, when somebody says, what do you do with a gun? A normal, like, pick it, use it. Like, I kind of get it. Like, what do you mean? Put it in the drawer. Like, if you say to the kid, what are you supposed to do with a bicycle? Ride it.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

So it's. It's good that he's learning. Thank God. Wow, that is hysterical. What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Total. What are you nuts?

[Ben]

This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Shopify. And today, folks, we are talking about working smarter, not harder. That's right, baby. Using Shopify and all their AI tools. You don't have to work hard when you can work smart. Right, Josh?

[Josh]

Right, Ben. But here's a better question. Ben and I already know the answer. If you're not using Shopify, what are you using?

[Ben]

I don't know. What, are you nuts?

[Josh]

There's nothing else.

[Ben]

No, it's Shopify or bust. What, are you going to go and register a URL and then not have a suite of tools to help you make your website? That's dumb. That's like buying. That's like buying land, but not also hiring a contractor. What are you going to do, build it yourself? You're dumb. Your family is going to fall from the second story.

[Josh]

Congrats on the dirt. You're done for without Shopify, it's making your life easier. You're going to figure out whether your ideas are good or not. And the truth of the matter is it's end to end.

[Ben]

Babe, you understand how difficult it is to set up a Payment processing system on a website without Shopify. Like, who needs code? You don't. You don't code. I don't code. All this. All this coding just happens in the background. All these AI tools, they make it so easy for us. It is fantastic. You can pick from templates. Josh, you can go. This is my favorite thing to do. You can go on somebody's website, okay, and you can see, ooh, I love their website. I'm going to find out what Shopify theme it is. And then all of a sudden, instead of paying somebody 20 grand to go and make your dream site template.

[Josh]

I love a template. I love a theme. I love a theme park, a themed.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

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[Ben]

Of course they knew. Because of their AI tools, they could.

[Josh]

See in the future, I would trust AI with anything. I would trust Shopify with anything.

[Ben]

Anything.

[Josh]

I love you.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

And Walton Goggins, come in the pod.

[Ben]

If you want, please.

[Olivia]

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[Ben]

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[Olivia]

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[Deuce McBride]

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[Olivia]

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[Ben]

That was fun.

[Olivia]

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[Josh]

Okay, so tell me about the Hamptons. You guys are Going to be cooking. You guys are going to be doing all the things. When are we going to take Ruby to the beach? I want those little tootsies in the beach, in the sand.

[Ben]

Yes. We're going to farmers market it up. We just got here yesterday, so the. The. The summer is just beginning. Weather is a little bit rainy. The second it gets nice and sunny, he's going right to the beach, putting those toes in the sand. The farmer's market, it's just so kid friendly. You guys need to. I know you'll never come, but, like, you need to come for like a week.

[Josh]

Oh, I would love to.

[Ben]

It would be great. And like, it's just so. It's. It's so kid friendly. And maybe it's just in juxtaposition to the city, but, like, to be able to be outside and it's not. There's not so many people. Like, I'm not worried about him getting sick because everything's done outdoors. Yeah. Cooking, farmers markets, like little play, playground areas for Jackie's kids. Like, obviously Ruby's too little for that, but. Yeah, it's just. It's just amazing.

[Josh]

And you are sharing a house with Jackie and her husband.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Now, what's the underwear policy there? Are we going full Sinai West?

[Ben]

I'm not sure. I was full Sinai west this morning, so. But nobody else is. I think this is just me. This is me. Like, I am. I'll apologize up front. If you share a house with me, you're going to see me in my underwear. Never shirtless. Okay, I'm not walking around provocatively, but black briefs just feel like shorts. What's the difference, Josh, between black briefs and what I'm wearing right now?

[Josh]

Because I can see the outline of your hog.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's true, that's true. But they're not that tight. These are like loose cotton. I don't wear any tight spandex.

[Josh]

Oh, please, Olivia.

[Ben]

They're fairly loose.

[Josh]

Young Ethan and you are sharing a wonderful vacation home with his parents. Or yours. And Ethan comes out in his undies. Good morning, everyone. What are we having? Eggs and skyline chili. Are you pulling Ethan to the side and going, what the fuck are you doing in your underwear, Ethan?

[Ben]

It's my mother, first of all.

[Olivia]

I don't think he would ever be caught dead doing that. He's the son of a teacher and he's so nervous, so if anything. Well, I wouldn't do that either, obviously. I don't know. No, of course not. I would pull him aside and say, hey, maybe let's revisit this.

[Ben]

I totally, I totally get that. It's not right for everyone. If my brother, if my brother in law walked out in his underwear, I would say, what are you fucking nuts? Put on some pants. That said, this is just me. Like, I'm an interesting cat. I do interesting things. And I think that probably when I met them over a decade ago, the first time I did that, they were probably like, oh, that's weird. And now it's just like, that's Ben. Like, Ben is just Ben. Easy. Oddball. I don't even think about it. Like, I just like, I leave the room in my underwear, in my shirt. Like, I just.

[Josh]

That's it. You're.

[Ben]

Same thing with the nurses and wild for sure. Why?

[Josh]

Like, yeah, I mean, like we live five minutes from Paige's parents, so it won't be odd. Maybe once a week where they'll come over in the morning. Sometimes, like on a weekend, they'll come and like take the kids out for pancakes in the morning or they'll come over especially now, right? Her mom's coming and helping with the boys because we've got three. You don't want to see my little thick tree trunk leg scamper up those stairs so quickly. When I hear Stacy coming, I run up those stairs and I throw on shorts. I go, the idea, Stacy seen the outline of my, my hose.

[Ben]

I get it.

[Josh]

Of my blaster.

[Ben]

I get it.

[Josh]

Of my Hebrew national.

[Ben]

I absolutely shame.

[Josh]

The shame that I would bring this good Sacramento woman. I could never.

[Ben]

I absolutely get it. I get it. That said, I'm not changing for anyone.

[Josh]

What if Claudia was like this? It's so funny. What was Claudia's thought about you going out to the nursing station in your underwear? That was Paige's first question.

[Ben]

She definitely mentioned it one time. She's like, can you put on a shirt? I'm like, oh, yeah, I should do that. Because I was literally walking out, like, just in my underwear. I didn't make it past the door. She's like, put on a shirt. I'm like, okay. She's like, are you wearing socks? I'm like, no, I can't find them. That was. Those are the questions.

[Josh]

You walked barefoot? You walked barefoot?

[Ben]

Yeah, I was barefoot. I was barefoot in the hospital. I was barefoot.

[Josh]

You're a perfect person.

[Ben]

I was barefoot.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Ben]

Barefoot. And like, when I tell you I literally. I bought $150 air mattress that I never opened and like, I prepped and I, I just, I was so delusional. I didn't know where any of my things were. I packed a bag. I didn't know where my shirts were, my shorts, my socks, nothing.

[Josh]

I just love that you were at a one of the best hospitals in New York on the Upper west side. And then there was another guy at a Ramada in Wichita who was about to leave his room and said, let me put on shorts and shoes. And you said, nah, let me take them off.

[Ben]

Oh, time to leave.

[Josh]

Should we get to a speak pipe?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

All right. If you want to leave us a message, get advice from us, go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity is key. Let's get to Anonymous. Oh, this one grinds my gears.

[Olivia]

Big fan of your podcast and the toast. I will try to make it brief. My husband's cousin eloped at the end of 2024 and they said they didn't want all the drama of a wedding. They have a large family, everyone's very opinionated. Well, turns out they changed their mind and the wife feels like she missed out on all of the wedding activities and celebrations. And now they're going to be throwing a reception in October of this year, which is their one year anniversary. And I'm calling to figure out, is it rude to not buy them a gift. It's a fairly casual reception. They're not doing a ceremony. They registered for gifts. $200 plus. And the reception is going to be light appetizers and a pizza truck. So let me know your thoughts.

[Josh]

Oh boy.

[Ben]

It's. Yeah, this is. It's weird to know the menu before you go to a. Like why do you know exactly what they're serving? That's kind of strange.

[Josh]

Well, cause they're close. But it's weird to use the menu to justify being a cheapskate, not buying them a gift.

[Ben]

You obviously have to get somebody a gift if you go to their wedding. Otherwise don't go. And by the way, you don't have to get something from the registry. Like if you really want to get them something cheaper. That said, $200 to a wedding. Like that's why Josh is qualifying with the pizza truck. She's like, this is a cheap affair. Like I shouldn't need to pay $200. But unless you don't have $200. If your dollars is a very like, less than baseline wedding present.

[Josh]

If people in your life were eloping but you knew and it wasn't some secret, wouldn't you try to buy them something? Even if they never had a party?

[Ben]

I would. And you know, it's funny. I actually, I have a friend, a close friend who ended up just like he just got married one day. It was a tiny ceremony, like 10 people. And I never got him a present and I should have. And I probably will now. That's something. Also that out of the blue, I will do. I'll remember something from four years ago. I'll act on it. I feel like most people won't do that. I will. If I forgot to respond to a text, I'll respond. If I forgot to get a wedding present, I'll send it.

[Josh]

Can I use this podcast to fulfill some of my neuroses real quick? And I apologize in advance. Speaking of four year old gift, I've been guilty of that too. And I will say this. My wife. And don't worry if this is breaking a HIPAA violation, just scoot right into my DMs. My wife, you know a transport team takes you. A transport person is the guy who wheels your, your wife, your pregnant wife downstairs with the baby to put in the car to leave the hospital. The Great Cedars Sinai, as I mentioned. Amazing nurses, amazing hospital. Thank you again. And so I was a little famished as our people.

[Ben]

Wait, you were. You were wheeled?

[Josh]

Paige was wheeled down in a, in a wheelchair. I wasn't wheeled.

[Ben]

I asked Claude. I'm just letting you know. Claudia walked down, I held Ruby. Nobody escorted us.

[Josh]

No way. Zilch.

[Ben]

Zilch. Continue.

[Josh]

Yeah, I guess I just know that from like movies and laughs.

[Ben]

We are weird, right?

[Josh]

You assume they're wheeled, right, Olivia?

[Ben]

Yeah, I would assume they just had surgery. They just had surgery for this. And you'd also want to assume that like the nurse is like checking on the baby getting in the car for the first time. I would think, well, they have the.

[Josh]

These transport guys that wheel, you know, the mom and the baby. And so of course I ran to go get the car and make sure it was all air conditioning waiting for them. And then I went to the. We couldn't figure out. We like got confused on the exit. So I'm like rolling around and I don't want her outside. So I'm like trying to find it. Anyway, I find. Finally found her and I'm getting the baby strapped in and the guy was like, all right, have a great day. And I was like, thank you so much. And he left. And I don't know, but you know me, I like to wax people. I like to give them a little scratch. And then of course, I'm already feeling a little like, oh, crap, I Didn't give him, like, you know, just a little bit of money to say thanks. And people might say, what are you, nuts? This is a hospital. People get paid salaries. You know, it's not, like, as service based. I just. Who's gonna say no to a crisp 20?

[Ben]

Agreed.

[Josh]

And then my wife, in the ride home, she goes, you know, that guy was so lovely. She said, he helped me with this, he helped me with that. So now I'm ca. In my. My neuroses is off the charts, so I don't know how to find. I was like, do you remember his name? She's like, no. If you were the guy who was on the transport team at Cedars Sinai, and you will my wife, feel free to DM me and give me your cash app. I want to send you a little bit of dough. And at this point, you're getting more. I feel bad, and I feel like there should be a penalty. I'm sorry. And I just want to. I want to give you some scratch. Thank you for being so nice to Meyer and my wife.

[Ben]

You shouldn't feel bad, but it's nice that you feel bad. I'm saying you shouldn't feel bad because this is definitely not a normal tipping occasion. I don't think he expects to be, but it's lovely. It's lovely. I have a similar but more unfortunate story. So we got to the house, and Monday is our trash pickup, right?

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

And I want to get in with the trash guy. Okay.

[Olivia]

Early.

[Ben]

Because if you're not in with the trash guys out here, you got to break down the boxes. I don't want to break down boxes, all this stuff. So I. I go, I meet him. I gave him 20 bucks. I'm like, thank you so much. I'll see you next Monday. He takes the 20. He's like, oh, they'll send somebody else next Monday. What are you, nuts? What are you, nuts? I thought it was you. I thought it's me and you all summer long. And it's not. It's not like he's gonna go and share that with the next guy.

[Josh]

No. You're gonna be peeling twenties.

[Ben]

So now what do I do? But I'm peeling twenties for what, Josh? If they're never coming back on just the hopes that he does make a round trip. How do I know it's not going to be eight different guys in eight weeks?

[Josh]

That would be odd.

[Ben]

I agree. I thought it was odd that it wouldn't be him. Doesn't he have a root? Yeah, he has no root.

[Josh]

You have no root.

[Ben]

He has no root.

[Josh]

You're rootless. You know, I feel bad for him. He has no root.

[Ben]

He has no roots.

[Josh]

He's willy nilly. He's picking up left and right.

[Ben]

He has no root and he has no regulars. Taking my 20, no morals. Don't take my 20 with no root.

[Josh]

Christmas. He's getting nothing. I think this lady from the Speak pipe going all the way back is a real cheap skate. I think you're using that it's a kind of casual party to justify not getting like a close person in your life a wedding gift that you honestly should have gotten when they got married, whether they were eloped or not, but especially now.

[Ben]

Agreed. Very strange. Very strange. Be a good friend.

[Josh]

So true. So true.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

Okay, this next one is from Natalie. Hi, good guys.

[Ben]

My name's Natalie. Calling in because I would love a male opinion. So my husband is very into lingerie. I'm talking about multiple outfits every time that we have sex. And I'm just wondering, are all men really that into lingerie? I sometimes feel like it's just an unnecessary step. He tries to tell me it's like, you know, beautiful packaging, but wondering your thoughts and opinions, because, to be frank, I'm over it, but wondering if I'm the crazy one or if he's the crazy one for being so into it.

[Deuce McBride]

Take care.

[Ben]

I do think, though, there's something like, it's both sleazy and nice at the same time. Like, him wanting her to wear lingerie is like, he wants to be really excited by his wife. But I guess in the back of my head, it's also, like, if she's not doing that, or do you have, like, a wandering eye? Like, if she doesn't wear a lingerie and change multiple times a night, like, are you no longer attracted to her? And, like, what about.

[Josh]

Right, okay, how about this? What if there was something you liked? A position, a thing.

[Ben]

Sure.

[Josh]

That your person just said, I don't want to do that for you anymore. Like, and it was reasonable. Right? Like, it wasn't. You know, I need you to hang upside down. Like, would you kind of feel like. But I feel.

[Ben]

I feel bummed. I feel bummed. Okay, so looking at it like that, I would say that multiple outfit changes, though. Josh, this isn't Cirque du Soleil. Yeah. Like, this is the Oscars. This is her bedroom. Like.

[Josh]

She'S doing a quick change. She has someone healthy.

[Olivia]

She's.

[Ben]

She's like David Blaine. He's like, all right, you're gonna change quickly, but I don't want to see that you changed. Presto. I'm waiting, babe.

[Josh]

Shit, shit, shit.

[Ben]

Come in, Come in, baby. I think the guy's nuts. Yeah. But if he. But if he likes it and you don't mind, I think a singular outfit is lovely.

[Josh]

I think the suggestion of a piece of lingerie is almost better. Not even lingerie, but just like. Like a well placed, like, little, like, pop of. Of undies here and there, like, over the waistline just to remind you, like, what lurks underneath. It's like Loch Ness monster, but fun.

[Ben]

It's like me, when I wear my undies over. Over my hips.

[Josh]

But you don't hide them. Yeah, she's.

[Ben]

She's like, I can't wait to see what's underneath those gildings from Amazon.

[Josh]

Buy it now.

[Ben]

Six pack for 24.

[Josh]

Oh, my gosh. Let's hear from Haley.

[Olivia]

Hi. Good guys. Okay, I know you like your brevity, so here's my. What Are you nuts? AI generated or ChatGPT assisted apologies or just big important messages with someone you're dating or any friendship, any relationship whatsoever? On other big Instagram accounts of this being caught, where they forget to add. Delete the part where it says, like, hey, I can. I can refine it to be a different tone if you like.

[Ben]

Yikes.

[Olivia]

Etc. And I've also had this happen to me recently. I was very upset with someone I was seeing because I did not feel respected. I felt misled about something that's neither here nor there. But then they decided to rectify that lack of respect. And you know me feeling misled by trying to trick me into thinking that a robot's apology was their apology. And even more nuts. When I asked them point blank, they admitted it. Like, wild to do, but also wild to not take to your grave.

[Josh]

Wild. To be honest.

[Ben]

Wild. Wild. Yeah. No. Yeah. By the way, that's already announced that he was. That she had an issue with him being honest.

[Josh]

And no one ever says it's neither here, but it is there. No. Sorry.

[Ben]

Before we jump in, Josh, you're in a room. It's you, a woman named Haley, and a woman named Lee, and you're trying to say, Haley, I get where you're coming from.

[Josh]

I do see that.

[Ben]

I'm just saying. Very confusing. Haley, who am I talking to?

[Josh]

This kid needs more sleep.

[Ben]

So dumb. So dumb. Haley, ChatGPT is incredible for. I love using it to clean emails. We've spoken about it. If I need it to, like, jumpstart my brain, it's great. I think that using it for heartfelt messages is very bizarre because it's not your heart. Like, Chat GPT doesn't know the way you're feeling. So if you were to write like, hey, I did this, I did that, blah, blah, blah, write me a message that seems sincere. It just. It's not sincere at all. It completely defeats the purpose of the apology that you were sending. So I think it's a complete one of you nuts. The only thing that I could see being fine is, like, you run it through it to spell check. Like, that's great too. You can literally put in your message and say, hey, remove grammatical Errors or make sure everything's spelled right in case, like me, you don't know how to spell separately. Separately. And you always end up putting the E in the wrong place. Is it for grammar?

[Josh]

I'm that way with received. I'm like, here it comes. I see it coming.

[Ben]

Yeah. Where is the. It's the I before E except after C. But you can't seem to remember it when you're actually writing the word. And chatgpt, if you wrote it, they would write it properly for you. The fact that this person didn't delete the question from ChatGPT is crazy. Also though, the fact that ChatGPT, when you press the copy button, they should not be copying. They're part of the message.

[Josh]

I don't have his side of it. I didn't talk to him. I only have your side of it. And I, I talk to you. This is gonna hurt. You sound like an intense person. I would almost go as far to say is you sound like a lot. And the nature of relationship type talks are intimidating, especially for dumb boys, which we are, especially when we're young and we don't have a lot of experience or some might say precedents to pull from. And thus I do not, I do not feel bad about this guy trying to use the most cutting edge tools to deal with you. Like, he doesn't want to upset you, he doesn't want to hurt. I mean, I feel like you leaned on the wrong parts of the story, which was, he did it, he was honest and which was a turn off. And he used AI to take responsibility. Right. For something that she felt misled about. Which is fair and honest. Like, it's not like he said, it's not like the prompt was, hey, use the most Svengali trick deck manipulative strategies in which good idea to get her to not only not be mad at me anymore, but give me her Social Security number. Like, that's when you go. But you literally. How sweet is that? Like, hey, I, I don't know how to properly tell this girl, my bad. Can you help me do it in a way that sounds really honest? I just don't want to hurt her or upset her.

[Ben]

Did he use it to break up with her? I forget if she said that.

[Josh]

I don't think so.

[Ben]

It was just like an apology. Like it's somebody that she's with.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, or they're dating and she felt misled and it sounds like he was taking responsibility. He just used AI's help.

[Ben]

If you're, if you are Using it to break up with somebody. I would say that it's still certainly better than ghosting. And a lot of guys do that. Guys. Guys stink. Like, guys are just the worst. I can't tell you how, like, I have so many friends that just used to stop texting girls. It's like, what are you doing? Are.

[Josh]

Is ghosting becoming more equal? Olivia?

[Olivia]

I think people do it on both sides, for sure. I think that the lack of clarity that that creates is just, like, not cool in any circumstance. Whether it's, like, even, like, a friendship or something. I don't know. I think, like, there's some things that can be left unsaid, but I don't know. It's definitely more equal, though. I see it with men and women.

[Josh]

My dad goes, can't relate.

[Ben]

Just kidding.

[Josh]

He's dead. He can't say anything.

[Ben]

The king of ghosting. Literally. He is a ghost.

[Josh]

He's literally ghosting. Sometimes I'm sad. Jews don't believe in hell. You were down there.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. That's hysterical.

[Josh]

Oh, man. Oh, you had a vacation home. I heard about the vacation home from me. You had a lifelong vacation from me. I know where my siblings are. I'm gonna ruin your legacy. Yeah, you better pull a favor. You better strike me down with lightning, because I'm gonna ruin it.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. So good.

[Deuce McBride]

Hey, how you doing?

[Josh]

It's Joshi from Benny and Joshy, the Good Guys podcast yard. Anyway, we randomly were both sleep deprived, and we didn't realize that our episode was a little short, so we are giving you a bonus interview with Deuce McBride of the New York Knicks. Can you flipping believe that? What a freaking bonus. You guys are so hard on us. You're like, you have too many ad reads, the episodes are too short.

[Ben]

That's good.

[Josh]

Supply and demand is good. You demand. We don't supply. This is the supreme of podcasts. Anyway, go check out Deuce McBride's book, his children's book, and enjoy this interview. This is a long epi, long episode for you, you morons. Mazel morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here staring at two beautiful men. I'll let Ben do the intro. But the truth is, we are in a new studio that looks kind of like the set of the Maury Povich Show. The results are in. We're all the fathers.

[Ben]

Yes, we're all fathers. I'm sitting here with the great Deuce McBride. We have a lot of Nick fans that listen to this pod. I'm born and bred New York. Josh is born and bred New York. He left us for Los Angeles like a dweeb, but tons of Knicks fans. But more importantly, tons of. Tons of fans of dads. You have a. You told me, a 1212 day old daughter. So you're in the thick of it right now.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You're in the thick of it. Are you sleeping?

[Deuce McBride]

Not much. Not much. Not a lot of sleep.

[Ben]

Yeah, not a lot of sleep. It's crazy, right?

[Deuce McBride]

Crazy.

[Ben]

It's crazy. Did you get a night nurse? Like, so just you and your wife?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, and her family's here. My family came up, so it's been nice for them to help and they want to help, so. Yeah, it's been easier, but we've been. We've been taking a lot of. A lot of sleepless nights and.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Deuce McBride]

Not many meals.

[Ben]

Yeah. So I did the same. We did. Just me and my wife. We did it, of course, like families around to help if we need them, even though my wife hates having people in the house. So it's really just been us. And it's a crazy adjustment. You're. You're waking up every two hours, really. And. Yeah, I haven't had a. I haven't had a full night's sleep in like five and a half weeks. So if we sound groggy, it's because we are. Okay, Cut us some slack.

[Josh]

I first. I'm not gonna cut you slack with that intro.

[Ben]

Not good.

[Josh]

Not good enough. Not good. Okay. You kind of skirt over the fact that we have an elite marquee athlete in our midst.

[Ben]

And he's an author. He's an author and a dad. He's all the things. So he's an unbelievable, unbelievable basketball player.

[Josh]

Once in a generation. You're sitting with Mr. McBride. First question. Are you truly 62195? And what's it like to be at my goal height and weight?

[Deuce McBride]

I'm a little heavier than 195. I'm probably like 210 now. That's probably my rookie weight. But no, it's taking me a lot of places. This athletic body of mine.

[Ben]

He looks. He's svelte, Josh. Svelte, built.

[Josh]

Can you imagine? Because you're six two, Ben. Can you imagine being 195?

[Ben]

Are we the same height?

[Deuce McBride]

I'd say so.

[Ben]

Yeah. So whenever you call me on it, I'm six two. Okay. That's it. Yes.

[Josh]

And I'm six feet. And you, like, try to make me sound like I'm a five, seven, little squeak you could throw into a swimming Pool.

[Ben]

I just think you're like five' eleven and three quarters. But it's fine. I'll give you six feet. It's fine.

[Josh]

I'm totally out.

[Ben]

It's fine. I'm six' two. You're 210. I'm at my goal weight right now of 240. Zero muscle. I was 285 when, Josh. A year ago, before I discovered a gorgeous injection called Ozempic.

[Josh]

Two years ago, was it two years ago?

[Ben]

Two years ago, yeah.

[Josh]

Because I remember we were going. You were in LA and you swore me to secrecy when we were eating dinner at Catch and you looked at me and you were literally like this. You see how little I'm eating?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's such a Jewish question.

[Ben]

It's just like so life changing. Like, if I was this weight in high school, I loved playing basketball. Like, I'm like the quintessential Jewish three point marksman. You put me in the corner, I'm drilling all day long. But just like a little too fat to play. Like that was just like my thing. I was like a nice three on three could catch me during lunch at the park. But like for teams, it just was. It just wasn't happening for me. But if we had Ozempic back then, Josh, who knows, maybe I would be playing for the Knicks.

[Josh]

Yeah, you really, I could see that for you. I totally could. Would you be comfortable showering naked amongst dudes? I wouldn't.

[Ben]

It's tough then. No. Now I go to like, not Equinox, because Equinox, you never know what's gonna go on over there. We should probably cut that out. But.

[Josh]

You don't fuck with my free membership.

[Ben]

Yeah, I know, I know. I'm sorry. Honestly, I have to assume that the Equinoxes in LA are very similar to the Equinoxes in Soho. Things are crazy over there.

[Josh]

It's not just equinox. So unfortunately, or fortunately. Fine. Or fortunately at most gyms, like, there's going to be some dudes cruising. Cruising for a time.

[Ben]

They're going to cruise. They're going to cruise. Yeah.

[Deuce McBride]

At a gym near me, we're trying to go in. Not fully set up in the membership system yet, but, you know, they weren't letting anybody in in general because apparently there's a. A couple having intercourse. In the hot tub?

[Josh]

No.

[Ben]

Unbelievable.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah. In the hot tub.

[Ben]

Fitness.

[Josh]

Mr. McBride. It's too much.

[Ben]

It's too much.

[Deuce McBride]

It's a nice gym.

[Ben]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Wow.

[Josh]

As an elite basketball player, obviously I'm sure, you have to be careful playing outside of the league, but are you ever tempted to roll up to an LA Fitness? I'm not even talking about, like, a Rucker Park. I'm talking about a bunch of Joe Schmoes who think they're the greatest ever and just be like, let me show you what it means to play basketball, boys.

[Deuce McBride]

Without a doubt, you know?

[Josh]

Do you ever do it?

[Deuce McBride]

I don't. I don't look at, you know, what fans say about me and things of that nature, but my family does. So every time they say a little this or that, I always think, like, if I showed up at any regular gym, if a G League player showed up at any regular gym, I mean, it's night and day. It's not close. I mean, it's a whole different world.

[Josh]

Who's the worst at dabbing on the Knicks? Like. And do you judge a man by a dab?

[Deuce McBride]

A dab?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Is there anyone who's bad at handshakes? Bad at high fives? You know, they just miss it.

[Deuce McBride]

Bad at handshakes? Oh, man. Yeah. Nah, actually, I would say, as a team, we weren't great at handshakes. We didn't have probably, like, any handshakes. And then, you know, shout out Mikel and Cam, who got the whole team. We got a whole pre game of handshakes going on before every game now. I mean, everybody has a handshake with everybody, which is cool.

[Ben]

It just seems like there's just great camaraderie. Like, you guys, like, it's a great. It's a great locker room. People love each other. Like, is that. That's the way that it is? Like, there's. It's awesome. That's great.

[Josh]

What about. Okay, so you get to the locker room, right? This is what the people want to know. And you have your little. You know, you have your locker. It's kind of a cubby. Okay, here we go.

[Olivia]

I can't.

[Ben]

I'm like, where is it going? I love it.

[Josh]

What is the level of nudity in the locker room? Cause I would be, like, leaving the towel wrapped around my waist and doing this move, you know, I'd be like, great.

[Ben]

Like, keeping it.

[Josh]

Hey, Keeping it zesty. Anthony Towns.

[Ben]

You know what I mean?

[Josh]

Like, Jalen, amazing.

[Ben]

Like, good.

[Josh]

Good game, y'.

[Ben]

All.

[Deuce McBride]

You know, like, there's. There's not a high level of nudity. We all are. Are very individual in there. We're locked in on our own. Own stuff going on, right?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because you want to be modest. But the way they make it look like in the 90s or like guys.

[Deuce McBride]

Were just walking around naked and.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, that's, that's old heads in general.

[Deuce McBride]

Like, you say you go to a.

[Ben]

Spa and you're going to run into that 65 year old that's just ass naked, brushing his teeth. It's like, dude, what are you doing?

[Deuce McBride]

Or flossing right in the middle of the hallway or something? Like, no, no, no, no.

[Josh]

We judge a guy's like, products, right? Like, here you are like, you're hitting your Keels moisturizer. And like, so. So over there, it's like with the Duane Reed brand, you're like, you just made 8 million bucks this year. You do generic lotion.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, we actually, we kind of do get on each other about what we're, what we're using. Just, just because, like, some guys are wiped up and some guys aren't. So the guys that are washing their face with, you know, shampoo or stuff like that, like, we kind of get on each other for stuff like that. But it's funny.

[Ben]

So funny. I mean, I, I have a million questions. You mentioned aau, like, growing up with guys are like, were you competing against any of them? Like, did you grow up playing against Halliburton? Like, did you grow up playing like.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, yeah, a couple years older. Like, trying to think who was who. I really played against that's played against Jalen Green just got traded. Jaime Jaquez. They were on the same team. And it's funny because I didn't know Jaime at all. And he ended up going to ucla. And one of my good high school friends is a UCLA assistant coach. And we were all worried about Jalen Green. Obviously, he's been killing a U circuit. And Jaime Haquez gave us like 35. And we're like, who is this kid? And they're like, oh, yeah, it's a UCLA commander. Little do we know.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Deuce McBride]

I mean, that's how good guys are.

[Ben]

So good. It's like another. It's a completely another level.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah. And it's just, just thinking about those type of moments is just like, man, it's fun to see that we all made it. You know what I mean?

[Ben]

No, it's amazing.

[Josh]

What's the biggest difference between going from high school level of play to college and then college to the pros?

[Deuce McBride]

I mean, I feel like high school to college, it's such a big jump because now you're looking at like that first physicality level of a guy's being, you know, 22, 23, you're coming into college at 17, 18. Like, you know, I was probably coming into college 180, you know, and I mean, I'm going up against guards that are now been in a weight room for four years. And that was probably the biggest jump for me, I think, was the physicality. But luckily we had a great strength program. And I think I gained like 15 pounds in like a month of like straight muscle.

[Ben]

Just like imagine celebrating gaining 15 pounds in a month, Josh. You know, like I gained 15 pounds. That would be my worst nightmare.

[Josh]

Oh my God. If I gain £15 in a month and it's not for a role, I'm divorced.

[Ben]

That's bad.

[Josh]

Something really bad happened. I'm interested in this because my father in law was a quarterback for the jets for like 10 years. And one day I was showing him this scene in Any Given Sunday where Pacino is full Pacino giving this like incredible speech. And I'm like, isn't this great? And he's like, it's great acting. This would never happen. And he's like, in the days of the inspiring coach, he's like, it's just, you're probably not getting that big lift up speech. Cause it's just, it's a different game. Like every guy's a little bit out on their own nowadays. Is that true? Do coaches still give you that, that pump up speech?

[Deuce McBride]

I wouldn't say it's movie like, but I definitely think the motivating part is the main part. I think from a coach at this level for us, you know, the X's and those, it can only do so much. It's motivating your guys to go out there and get the job done. So I wouldn't say it's movie like. I would say it's more game plan oriented. But you know, I'm ready to run through a brick wall for some of my coaches.

[Ben]

I was instructed, how about this?

[Josh]

Let's do role play. Let's joke around. Okay. A little bit. And you can be the judge Deuce. We'll be. Ben and I will be your imaginary coaches and we'll give you like a pump up speech.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

And you tell us which is more inspiring.

[Deuce McBride]

Okay, I like that. Yeah.

[Josh]

Okay, let's give. I'll give you. How long do you want, Ben? 30 seconds.

[Ben]

30 seconds. You go first. You go first.

[Josh]

Me go first?

[Ben]

Yeah, you go first. This is a great idea by you, but I need like, I need like your 30 seconds to do it. I'm.

[Josh]

Let's. What's fair do you. 40 seconds. Is that, like, a good.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, I'd say that's solid. 40 seconds.

[Josh]

40 seconds.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

And what is this, like, end of. Like, end of the third quarter? We're down 10. This is the finals. Game seven.

[Ben]

I like, down 10 going into the fourth. We need a spark.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, we need a. Yeah, we need a spark.

[Josh]

Okay, you ready?

[Ben]

I'm ready.

[Josh]

Apparently, all of you don't like pizza. Cause none of you are getting pizza or ice cream if you keep playing at this level. Guys, I am in the middle of a divorce, okay? I gotta. I need something. She's gonna take it all. I said we should get a prenup, honey. She's like, we don't need it. It's true love. Spoiler alert.

[Ben]

We needed it.

[Josh]

This is bad, boys. So I need something to get me through. Let's get out there. I am falling apart. Let's do it.

[Ben]

Nicks.

[Josh]

Thank you.

[Ben]

I'm inspired.

[Deuce McBride]

I mean, yeah, I'm ready.

[Ben]

I'm ready to run through a wall for you. That was excellent.

[Josh]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Ben]

That was excellent. I don't even know if I can go.

[Deuce McBride]

I'm ready.

[Ben]

I should have gone first. All right, we're down 10 going into the fourth. Okay. I'm trying to get into that headspace. We need this win. We need this win. We need this win really, really badly. Look, we don't want to go home. We don't want to go home. I don't think you want to go home. I don't think we have a chance to close it out on the road right now. We have 12 minutes, and then we can go. We can have a beautiful weekend. You don't have to come in the morning. You don't have to practice. We don't have to do anything. We're just going to work our asses off. 12 minutes. That's all I need from you. 12 minutes. And then I can make brunch tomorrow. You can make brunch tomorrow. Okay. You're gonna have. You're gonna have spritzes. You're gonna go get a couple of spritzes. You're gonna sit, you're gonna drink, maybe you're gonna go to Siddell's. You're gonna get a nice little spread, okay? You're gonna have. You're gonna have a great time. Or you're gonna get on the plane, you're gonna go, and then all of a sudden, you're doing suicides. It's no good. Take your pick. Suicides or Siddels. Suicides or Siddell's. 12 minutes. Let's win.

[Deuce McBride]

Okay.

[Ben]

How was that?

[Josh]

That was good.

[Deuce McBride]

Okay.

[Ben]

I like Suicides or Sedells.

[Deuce McBride]

I like it.

[Ben]

The juxtaposition.

[Josh]

I like that I was cracking up.

[Ben]

It's good. I like it.

[Josh]

It's really good.

[Ben]

I love it.

[Josh]

Oh, man.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

Obviously, endorsements and making a great living is all great about playing professional sports. But I like the little something, the little nuance. Like, did you get, like. I've heard about this. Cause I've known some professional athletes, they would say to me, we just can order whatever we [e-mail] and it just shows up. Is that true?

[Deuce McBride]

I mean, depends if you have a Nike deal. I have a Nike deal. So, yeah, I can. I can definitely go to nike elite.com and get a nice little package for myself or my family or whoever.

[Josh]

Sick.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, that's a great part.

[Ben]

I'm not gonna lie. Josh, he has perfectly crisp white Air Force ones, like the ones that you got me.

[Deuce McBride]

It's funny. Cause I got about 10 pairs of crisp ones.

[Ben]

Crisp ones, yeah.

[Deuce McBride]

But I thought it was gonna rain a little bit.

[Ben]

I'm not gonna lie. These are crisper than my backup pairs. Josh, for my birthday, got me two fresh pairs. Cause I wear them to death. Yeah, they're just my. They're my every shoe, everything shoe. They're the best.

[Josh]

We have a deal with Meryl. And so I don't know if you're familiar, Deuce, but. So we're getting walking shoes, we're getting hiking shoes. We're getting skipping shoes.

[Ben]

We have a deal with me. So good. So good.

[Josh]

Can we talk about Caitlin Clark?

[Ben]

Yes, we should. We should. If you're down. Because I was going to ask, like you said, that jump from high school to college, those guys are super physical. Like, we're watching in real time. Like, she's getting. It looks like she's getting beaten the fuck up on the court. And it's like these. These women are just like, very. To me, it seems jealous. Or are they, like, just trying to haze her? Like, like, like, what's going on?

[Deuce McBride]

I wouldn't say Hayes.

[Ben]

Right?

[Deuce McBride]

I wouldn't say, hey, like, are they.

[Ben]

Trying to hurt her? Like, it's. It's crazy.

[Deuce McBride]

I would hope nobody's goal is to actually hurt her. Yeah, I think it's definitely like a welcoming or it's, you know, people have a chip on their shoulder. Like, what's so great about you? You know what I mean? What's so special about you?

[Ben]

Yeah, what's so special is she's unbelievable.

[Deuce McBride]

She's unbelievable. Trust me.

[Ben]

Especially she crosses half court. I've never seen anything like it.

[Deuce McBride]

No, she's, she's special, right? I think, I think they definitely want to make her prove it.

[Ben]

They do?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, they want to put her through all the tests, put her through everything and. All right, let's see how great you are. Like, prove it to me.

[Ben]

Did you see that clip? I guess she hit three threes in a row. She crossed half court, she got hit in the eye, she's like down. All of a sudden she gets checked from behind and hits the board. Like, is this hockey?

[Deuce McBride]

That was crazy.

[Ben]

Crazy.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But do they have in basketball, in hockey, right, your star player, you will literally say, okay, let's bring on an enforcer. And their major job will be if you touch our star, like next time up, you're getting checked into the boards as hard as they can. And it's just sort of accepted. Does that exist in basketball? Someone to protect the star player?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, I would say so. I think we're lucky because as a team we're going to protect each other no matter who it is. But I think around the league there are definitely some guys that are, are definitely bruisers, enforcers that are just brought on to protect. Absolutely. I think that exists. Yeah.

[Ben]

It feels like in those clips though, Caitlin Clark, she needs a protector. Like game day, like what does your game day routine look like? Game day, game tonight.

[Deuce McBride]

Okay, so we got usually like a 10am like walkthrough, shoot around, go through our stuff, go through whoever playing tonight. And then I will get some treatment, you know, ice tub, cold hot tub, massage and then eat. Around 12 o', clock, 1 o', clock, take a nap for like, however tired I am. Might be 30 minutes, might be two and a half hour nap. Wake up, that's rough.

[Josh]

Waking up from a two and a half hour nap.

[Deuce McBride]

And I'm like, not when you're, you're flying in and out and you just landed at 3am and those two and a half hours are. They're clutch.

[Ben]

You need it.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, you need it. And then I head to the arena, you know, I make sure, I pray before I go to sleep and head to the arena. And what they're like 5:30, get on the court, do some more prep for my Body. And then it's game time.

[Ben]

Wow, what a day.

[Deuce McBride]

It's a full day.

[Ben]

Full day. A full day.

[Deuce McBride]

Like from 8:30 to 10:30.

[Ben]

We're doing everything except playing Josh. We're steaming, we're cold, plunging, we're getting massages. This is my afternoon. This is praying and praying every morning. This is fantastic. I love it.

[Josh]

Is there? Cause sometimes I'll see. I think everyone's personal spirituality is perfect. And I always find when I'm talking to God before I have a big performance or something that I care about. My whole thing is just let me serve the piece in the audience to try to get out of myself. Because if I'm trying to serve me and just let me kill this shit dog, God just be behind me is when I'm probably gonna self sabotage. Is there like. Cause sometimes I'll see teams like have a prayer about winning and I'll be like, I don't know if God cares If the Seattle SuperSonics win this mid season game. But so like, what is that? Centering practice? Is it just to be the best that you can be in that moment or what is it?

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, definitely, you know, keep me healthy, but absolutely be the best. Like, let me go out there and be the best. Let me, you know, I prepared it to my best ability. Let me go out there and showcase it.

[Ben]

Yeah. Speaking of health, why do you think guys like these Achilles injuries are popping up? Like, you saw Tatum, I mean, you saw, you saw two of them. Yeah, you saw Tatum and then you saw Halliburton, or you didn't see it, but like, it was, it was in the finals. But it feels like young guys are getting injuries that are more prone for older players. Is it. Are they overworked? Like, what is the.

[Deuce McBride]

I would, I would say, yeah, like, a lot of people argue. Oh, you know, we get all this treatment, we do all this. Well, you know, back then, AU wasn't the same. Like, I vividly remember playing three games in a day, you know, and playing, you know, six to seven, eight games in a weekend. You know what I mean? And on top of it, I'm playing another sport. I'm practicing for both sports and. And I know a lot of other guys are too. Like, they're playing just as many games, if not more, flying all across the country and they're not taking care of their body properly until they get to maybe college. And then I know a lot of guys aren't taking care of their bodies in college. So you gotta think the intensity also has gone up Cause now everybody's working out, everybody's training. Not like back then when, you know, you had a few guys that really knew the game. But now you got a lot more guys training, a lot more guys working out. So the intensity's risen and the, you know, the quantity has risen of just how much you're playing. And then you get to the league and 82 games after you've grown up just playing nothing but basketball or other sports involved, and now you're playing 82 games. And, you know, we're playing playoff games every other day, which was, I mean, kind of crazy. And the Eastern Conference finals, like, we went through first and second round where we had like two days off in Detroit or a couple days off here, but now we're playing every other day in the Eastern Conference finals. So I think it's a big part of just a lot of games in a small amount of time.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

What do you think about. Have you heard about this book Range, by David Epstein?

[Deuce McBride]

I don't think so.

[Josh]

He wrote this book, Sports Gene, and it's the thing that I love. I love throwing it in the face of fathers who care about their kids in sports. Cause, like, it's not like, you know, it's not like fathers of people like you, Deuce, who like, have elite genetics. I'm like, I'm like, listen, little Avery over there, he's not so good, okay? You know, no one has a heart to tell you he's not great. But basically what Range talks about is that hyper specialization at a young age is good for two things only, which is golf and classical piano. Because they don't change, right? They're very regimented. And that basically what you want for most kids is for them to be well rounded throughout their time, especially when they're young, play a bunch of sports, become mobile athletic people, and then in their teens, they can become super specialized because they're like, you could have a 10 year old who's been going to travel camps and to club sports and had all the experts with them. They're like, if you have a guy like you who's obviously works and talented, but also predisposed to be great, you could have never picked up a ball till you were 13 and you would have caught up to those kids really, really quick. Like, basically there are just people who are going to catch up in six months. If your kid's been playing for 10 years, is that kind of true?

[Deuce McBride]

I think so. I mean, for sure. Even for me, like, I see guys around the league that might not Touch a ball. Say season ends in April, May. They might not touch a ball until August, September, and then you wouldn't even notice it.

[Ben]

Yeah, I love that you asked that question, Josh, because I was thinking the same. I'm sure that there are guys around you that have to take great care of their bodies, and I'm sure there are guys that don't have to at all. Like, I have to watch every single thing that I eat. I'm this fat by watching everything that I eat. Okay. And I'm telling you, like, I've heard of guys, like, they eat 10 packs of Nerds a day, or they eat, like, Chado Chocinko. Yeah. They love uncrustables. I don't know if it's a thing in the NBA, but it's a thing in the NFL. Like, if I had an uncrustable, I'm bloated, one uncrossed. I'm dead. I'm dead from gluten. And it's.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm in a diabetic coma.

[Ben]

So, like. Like, what's that? Like, like, are you. Are you somebody that needs to take care of themselves? And, like, what's it like, then, if you are that type of person, watching a guy who's just so gifted, like. Like LeBron, like, I'm sure you played against LeBron. I'm sure at this point he takes care of himself. Guys in his 40s, like, crushing it.

[Deuce McBride]

Well, yeah. I mean, I'd say in some ways you're jealous because you're like, man, this guy doesn't do anything. And I'm over here doing whatever I can do to make myself get that advantage, get extra sleep, eat right. And then you see a guy that doesn't do one of those, but sooner or later, you see it catches up that guy. And you'll see the people that usually treat their bodies right usually benefit from it in the long run. And I think that always comes to, you know, fruition. So it's tough to see in the moment, but you kind of just. You kind of just get used to it, and you like to, you know, I love to do what I do. You know, I love to take care of my body. I love to do all the right things because then it gives me more confidence when I'm out there to. To know that I prepared. I've done everything I can do. So just go out there and play free.

[Ben]

Genetics are just so crazy, aren't they, Josh? Like, I have a. We joke. We had an episode. Josh brought in Russ and daughters bagel I ate a bagel in the middle. I'm like, I can't think anymore. Like, the second I eat a bagel, my brain turns off. And then you have people that are eating bagels, like they're eating pasta before they play a 48 minute NBA game at the top of their. Like. Like, have you ever thought about that, Josh? There are people that literally eat carbs. Do you eat carbs for fuel?

[Deuce McBride]

You do, right? Yeah.

[Olivia]

What?

[Ben]

It's like a parallel universe. Like, imagine eating a plate of pasta, Josh, before you go for a run, because you know that it's gonna, like, it'll give you energy.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But. Yeah, he's burning it, babe.

[Ben]

I know. It's crazy.

[Josh]

You're not burning it watching Love Island.

[Ben]

I know. So good. Are you watching Love Island?

[Deuce McBride]

No.

[Ben]

Oh, God, it's fantastic.

[Josh]

Dudes, I know. Dudes, I know we just met, but when you lose a game or you lose a series like that, you feel really, you know, passionately about. You ever want to cry?

[Ben]

Yeah. My man. Me too.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah. I mean, you work your whole life, you work all season with those guys, and you definitely get emotional. I mean, it's something you love.

[Ben]

Love.

[Deuce McBride]

At least for me, it's something I love. I love playing. I love this team, you know, and yeah, I was definitely emotional after. After we lost.

[Ben]

Did you love, like, were you a die hard fan? What was your team growing up?

[Deuce McBride]

I wasn't a die hard fan of really any NBA team. Like, obviously I'm from Ohio, so I watched the Cavs pretty heavily with LeBron, I was. I'm more like the players, I'd say.

[Ben]

Yeah, you're a player guy. Who is your favorite player? Player?

[Deuce McBride]

I mean, probably LeBron.

[Ben]

LeBron, yeah, LeBron.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah. I really like Tracy McGrady, man.

[Ben]

Who else?

[Deuce McBride]

I watched Chris Paul a lot. Kemba. Kemba was huge.

[Ben]

So good. Also a Nick.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah.

[Ben]

At a weird time, we love to do that. We take guys just at the very end, we throw them on so many random guys. Like, what's it like then? So you're. You idolize LeBron and all of a sudden you're playing against LeBron. Like, what? What is that? Are you nervous?

[Josh]

No.

[Deuce McBride]

I would say, like from being on the AU circuit, you start meeting so many guys. Like, I think I met Dwyane Wade when I was, you know, a freshman in high school. So you just start meeting so many guys. Just when, as you start going farther and farther in your basketball career that you really just get used to it. Like, I played for lebron's. AAU team.

[Ben]

Got it. You know what I mean?

[Deuce McBride]

So like you kind of just get, you're very used to it by that point.

[Ben]

So AAU is really like you're, you're, you're turning pro at 13. It's like a different. Or when do you start AAU?

[Deuce McBride]

I would say high, like major AUs, about 14, 15, like when you're entering high school.

[Ben]

I'm just saying Josh, he's a child actor. You're like, there's, there's parallel here. There's parallels here. I'm sure that there are guys in AAU that are so good either get injured, get burned out and never make it, but they were the guy, right? I feel like that's like Josh, Josh is just an amazing actor. But there are plenty of child actors that also burn out. I'm just recognizing parallels here.

[Josh]

I mean, I was AAU. I mean, look, AAU for actors. 13, it's Fiddler on the Roof. 14, it's Pippen. 15, it's Hamilton.

[Ben]

You know what I mean?

[Josh]

By 16 you better be on a Nickelodeon show.

[Ben]

And by 17 you're going to Equinox. So let's do the book quickly and then what are you nuts?

[Josh]

Perfect.

[Ben]

Okay. Why write a children's book? That's my first question. And then I want to talk about the book. Because Deuce, the championship of friendship, Champion of friendship. I mean, it's such a great concept. I haven't seen another athlete go into children's books. My sister in law just wrote a children's book also. And we are in this life stage. I have a five week old. Your whole life becomes them. So this, I think it's genius. But what made you want to write a children's book, Buck?

[Deuce McBride]

You know, I always felt like a lot of problems in the world are just adults not doing the right things by children, you know, not leading them in the right directions, not being positive when they need to be positive, but also not being able to discipline them in the right way. And I feel like being able to teach the youth the right way of doing things will make the world a better place in general. It starts with the youth. Like they're our future, they're going to be taken care of. And you know, like, I'm very big in, you know, giving back and you know, helping out the boys and girls clubs in Cincinnati, bringing them to some Pacers games when we play against them. So I just wanted to write a book about friendship and just really, you know, I'm very blessed and I have a Great group of friends. And, you know, a lot of people aren't blessed like that. A lot of people don't have people that they can go to about any problems or things that are bothering them. And I feel like, especially for men, like, it gets kind of shoved down and we have to be tougher. And I feel like just being able to be open about your emotions and being able to get stuff off your chest is just gonna make you a lot happier and a lot put you in a lot better space. So that's kind of the motivation.

[Ben]

Wholesome. Where can we get the book? Can we get it on Amazon?

[Deuce McBride]

Amazon.

[Ben]

Okay. So we have a ton of young parents. Get the book. Deuce, the champion of friendship on Amazon. Support him. Yeah, no, it's. It's. It's awesome. All right, so our what are you nuts? Moment of the week. I don't know if Zach briefed you, but this is. You're walking down the city, this is a weird place. And you're looking, you're like, what are you fucking nuts? Like, what. What is going on here? We can go first, what you think? Or if you have one, you can. You can go.

[Deuce McBride]

It actually doesn't have to do with the city.

[Ben]

Yeah, with anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with anything.

[Deuce McBride]

Exactly. Did tell me. So I was. It's funny because I was watching the finals game and, you know, shout out to former Nick Isaiah Hartenstein, my guy, you know, congrats to him and his family. And I gotta say, it's his son being sleep. Just got a championship, lifelong dream, and you're asleep right there on the stage. But I know when he sees it, when he's older, he's gonna. He's gonna enjoy that moment. So that's my. What are you, you know, what are you nuts?

[Ben]

That's perfect. That's perfect. You're sleeping. Dad just won a ring and yeah, shout out Hartenstein. What a guy. A great player. So good. My what do you notice? Moment of the week, Josh, is today I was walking my sweet Ruby, five week old son, just got a Starbucks. All of a sudden I see probably a guy, mid-60s, polo, popped collar, and it's just like, what are you nuts? Like, we're still popping collars, Josh. We're still popping collars. Like I just looked at him. When I'm still rad. I was just looking at him. I'm just like, you look like such a douche. Like, what are you, nuts? Put down your collar. It's too much.

[Josh]

It's too much, my woody nuts. Moment of the Week is, as we all know, I love a Costco. And the other day, I'm headed straight for the sample counter, and I see these beautiful little garlic toast bites of garlic bread. Looks so good. All of a sudden, the lady from the other sample station next door, running the next sample station next to her, comes over, helps herself to a couple samples. None left for Joshi. What are you, nuts? You work here.

[Ben]

That's nuts.

[Josh]

These are for me, for sure.

[Ben]

These are not for you. No. She's not buying anything.

[Josh]

That's crazy. It's not a sample.

[Ben]

No. That's a buffet. Yes.

[Josh]

Bring it to the break room.

[Deuce McBride]

So you would have only held yourself to one?

[Josh]

Oh, no, I'd circle back. If it's good, I'll circle.

[Deuce McBride]

Okay. You ever get called out for circling? I remember when I was a kid, I get called out for circling. You know, Sam's Club and Costco's. I get called out like, all right, you've had too many.

[Josh]

Deuce, you and I would have a good time. I think that's what's clear. Okay. We hit up a couple big box stores.

[Ben]

I'm in.

[Josh]

End our day at a food court.

[Deuce McBride]

Man.

[Josh]

So good.

[Ben]

Dad life, fantastic.

[Deuce McBride]

Absolutely.

[Ben]

You know what else is fantastic, Josh? This podcast. Deuce McBride, new book. Great guy. We can find you@deuce mcbride on Instagram.

[Deuce McBride]

Yeah, right.

[Ben]

Okay. Follow Deuce, follow the Knicks. Buy the book. Okay. This episode is 5 stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks. Deuce, thank you so much.

[Deuce McBride]

Appreciate y'. All. Thank you.

[Ben]

We will see you next time. Thank you.

[Olivia]

Deuce.

[Deuce McBride]

Yep.

[Josh]

Buy his book, people.

[Olivia]

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