B (1:40)

And of course I listen to the pod. What are you talking about?

A (1:43)

Have you ever listened to an episode back then?

B (1:46)

Yeah, like the early ones. And then I just didn't like. No. And then I just like. The thing is, I'm definitely self conscious of like. No, I don't like to hear the. I don't like to hear myself speak. Like it, like, makes me cringe. So hopefully you guys don't feel that way too, but. No, like, I prefer to just once it's out in the ethos, come after me, tell me what I did wrong, tell me what I did right. But if I don't have to, I'd rather not. I do the same thing with, like, interviews. I won't listen back to anything I don't know once it's out, like, I guess you re you watch your own movies. What's that like?

A (2:22)

You know, I think you have to listen and watch game tape. So in Interview, you're. You're naturally just bubbly, charming, smart person. So I don't think for interviews, you'd have to watch it back. I would never watch an interview of mine back. But this feels like a skill in which to improve, right? Like the pod. And same thing with movies and stuff like that. So I used to be. I think what happened, too, with social media is I got so used to looking at my big stupid face that I am better at watching stuff. I used to not be able to do it at all.

B (2:59)

I'm watching one of the worst shows, Josh. I think it's called Warwick. Maybe it's about teen. Teen centers for, like, traumatized or, like, troubled teens. Olivia, do you know if it's called Warwick? That can't be the name. I don't think I looked up Warwick and it showed a rodeo society in Australia.

C (3:17)

So.

B (3:18)

No, that's not it.

A (3:21)

Fucking bullmate with cowboys.

B (3:23)

Trouble.

A (3:23)

Gavin.

B (3:27)

Troubled teen documentary. Netflix. I'm on it. What comes up? It's important, Josh. This is important. Wayward. Wayward. Is that what it's.

A (3:35)

Wayward sounds more. Yeah, Home for Wayward. Wayward Boys. Isn't that. Wasn't that Wayward?

B (3:41)

That's one of them, yeah.

A (3:42)

Wayward.

B (3:42)

And then I'm seeing hell. There's a lot of these. Hellcan, but wayward. But wayward's one of them.

A (3:47)

Wait, because that's a phrase. A home for Wayward Boys. Yeah, that was like, in the 60s. It's true. Like, they would say that, like, you'll get sent to the Home for Wayward Kids.

B (3:59)

Well, this show, Josh, I think it's called Wayward. Olivia will correct us if it's not. What made me think of a van is they literally take. In the middle of the night, these teens are asleep, and this sketchy fucking van pulls up with three armed guards. They throw a, like, sack over their head, tie them up, and bring them to this detention center. I. I think I have to stop watching the show. I. I'm going to have nightmares. Like, too spooky. And it's so sad. Like, I'm watching this show and this girl that goes in, spoiler alert. She's not even that bad. Like, she just, like, her parents are just, like, don't know how to deal with her. But she's, like, nice and quirky and nerdy, but, like, does mushrooms at school. But she's, like, a nice girl and they Send her literally to prison. It's so scary, so sad, so terrible.

A (4:48)

Yeah, I. A buddy of mine went to one of those, but it was like a behavioral intervention camp, and he needed it. Like, he was. He had some mental illness and he was just like, you know, at 14, the size he is now, which was like 6 1, 220 pounds. Like, he was just a huge kid and he was violent, and he was not going to listen to his parents. And they had two big dudes show up and take him. I mean, it was a beautiful outdoor camp in Utah where he lived for the year. And they. And it costs, you know, six figures probably. And they, you know, they have a lot of intervention. But I think there are some versions where it is necessary in a lot of versions, like that documentary where it's probably absolutely horrible.

B (5:35)

Was. Is it Provo, the. The one that your friend went to? That's Paris Hilton's in Utah. That's like that very famous story where she came out against Provo, which, of course, I went down a rabbit hole last night just, like, looking up, like, other examples of this. And Provost completely still around. Like. And Paris Hilton had, again, maybe it's just her experience, but she had that. A terrible experience with, like, sexual assault. And we're just terrible to her. And it's like, you. You go there as a teen trying to. Trying to get better, and just abuse of power kicks in. And people have power trips and they're so excited to check someone.

A (6:16)

Right?

B (6:16)

Like, it's just so sad. So sad. I wonder if your. Your friend went to that same one. Or maybe there are multiple in Utah.

A (6:24)

I mean, his.

B (6:24)

I hope. I hope not too.

A (6:26)

His, you know, sort of take on it was that it was a. Inevitably it was a positive thing in the end. But I'm sure there are many terrible ones that, like the ones you're citing that just shouldn't exist at all. No way.

B (6:40)

It's just so sad. Like, she. Like, we only watched again, like, the first three episodes, but they have, like, a no touching policy at this detention center. And there's an extreme example, but, like, something happens to a girl, and this girl walks up to the other girl to console her. She puts her hand on her back and she's like, are you okay? And that was a strike. And they made her sleep on the floor. Like, just like, on the. Like she has a bed. She couldn't sleep in her bed. She had to just sleep on the floor to learn not to touch it. Just like, it gave me, like, such an icky Horrible feeling that like, we've, like, we've spoken about privilege on this podcast before, but there's like a such a different level of privilege where even the people who aren't necessarily feeling privileged on a day to day basis were not in that camp. I couldn't. I like, my brain went there and it's like, thank fucking God for the life that I have and the fact that my parents would never send me to something like that. Not that I needed it, but like, you never know, Josh. Like, you're like, the luck of the draw is just so. It's. It's luck. It's luck of the draw. We're very lucky. It. It shook me up.

A (7:50)

What about growing up on the East Coast? There was a. I mean, this is totally different and yet totally foreign to me. There was a culture of boarding schools, and then there were like the famous ones. Andover, Exeter. And then if you got kicked out of all those or couldn't get in, they'd be like, well, then we've got bad news. And they'd be like, choate. No one wanted to go to Choate, but. And it was like there was. That. There was military school. It's like, it all feels like Hogwarts Light.

B (8:17)

Yeah. So I didn't know anybody that went to any of those schools. And I don't. I don't know.

A (8:21)

Did you Jew?

B (8:22)

I don't, like, I've. I've heard of them. Yeah. I don't think. I don't think Jews go to boarding school.

A (8:25)

It's more rare. It's definitely a wasp.

B (8:28)

Yeah.

A (8:28)

Andover, I think, was. Is pretty WASP y. It's also. If you're really into sports, like athletics sometimes, like they, you know, like, they just have amazing sports programs. You just have to live there 10 months a year and you have to.

B (8:43)

I was gonna say, I'm sure that's what like, the parents tell them. It's great for sports. And it's like, I just don't want to see you for 10 months. Like, I don't mean to be incredibly judgmental. I'm gonna sound incredibly judgmental, but like, if you're sending your kids to boarding school or sport, I just, like, I just don't understand why you had kids. Like, they can. Like, if you can afford a boarding school, you can certainly afford a private teacher to teach them soccer or something. Like.

A (9:11)

Right.

B (9:12)

Do you. You have to hate your kids to send them to boarding school? Unless there's a problem. I know we just spoke about behavioral, etc. You have to hate your kids if you send them to boarding school.

A (9:21)

But I would, I would push back on say like the east coast and the Jews are just as guilty. The east coast culture of like 10 week summer camp, like to us.

B (9:31)

So fun though. It's so fun.

A (9:33)

To your point. And I know a lot of kids who wind up loving not, I don't know, a lot. But I, my friends have gone to boarding school. Loved it. But like us here on the west coast, the idea of sending your kid away for 10 weeks is bananas. It's just because it's not part of our culture here.

B (9:51)

Yeah, yeah. Seven and a half weeks. But yes, 10 weeks. That would be gorgeous. I wish I always wished it was longer.

A (9:59)

I could do it. Two and a half sojourn in the Poconos anytime.

B (10:06)

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A (13:56)

Imagine being done with your day and you're at your boy's house like you're at, like, totally. The dream of my life after school every day was for my mom to be like, go home with Kwame. Like, go home with Daniel. I'd be like, yes, yes. Because I knew I was going to eat whatever I wanted. And your pantry was not safe with your boy.

B (14:20)

And you were going to. And you were going to watch a movie that had a couple of nudes.

A (14:25)

Yeah, we're going to see some nips. Maybe their mom would make us dinner at six and. And then my mother would call the mother and be like, just put him in a cab and I'll come downstairs and wait for the cab and pay the fare. She wouldn't come pick me up, dog. I'd be like, mom, I'm on 28th.

B (14:44)

At first, she'd be like, it's Mom, I'm scared.

A (14:47)

Yeah, it's a short ride to the Hudson. We live in Hell's Kitchen.

B (14:53)

Mom, I'm at Stuyvesant Town. I'm scared. Let me out.

A (14:58)

That was.

B (14:59)

Pick me up.

A (15:00)

We talked about this on. On the pod. But, you know, going to elementary school on the Lower east side, it was. It bordered Stuyvesant Town. And then if you were really rich, you lived in the higher end. Peter Cooper.

B (15:12)

Peter. Peter Cooper.

A (15:14)

Peter Cooper.

B (15:18)

Peter Cooper. It's so funny. It's like. It's like buying like a tricked out Honda. That's Peter Cooper.

A (15:24)

That's right.

B (15:25)

Like, like, like you throw a V8 in a Honda, you still in a Honda.

A (15:30)

What are you doing?

B (15:31)

Like, just get the regular Honda.

A (15:33)

But what's crazy is Stuyvesant Town on the Lower east side of New York is like the closest we have to, like, Russian Marxist housing in New York City. Like, it's literally.

B (15:44)

Yes, It's.

A (15:45)

It's like in the. Here are your brown pants and your blue pants. See you in five years.

B (15:52)

Like, I mean, it really feels that way. Except you can leave, right? That's the only difference. But once you step in, there's communal parks. There's like the. All of these identical buildings.

A (16:05)

Right.

B (16:06)

Like, it really. It looks like tenements. Exactly what you said. It does. Except you can leave. That's the difference. You can walk one block and all of a sudden you're in regular Manhattan. But yes, Stuytown, you can be in there and feel like you're in a different world. And let me tell you, the world's wonderful. There's a basketball court right there was my dream.

A (16:24)

Like, I've played growing up. I wanted to live there so bad.

B (16:27)

It was really Cool. Like, we're joking about it, but Stuytown was cool. I loved it. I thought it was awesome.

A (16:33)

Yeah, dude. My friend Mario lived there, who was. He was a black dude with the name Mario, which I thought was cool and super cool. My friend Mario lived there and we would go there and hang out. And I just remember he had a treadmill in his bedroom because I think, like, the parents and nowhere to put it. And we would get jacked up on that treadmill. I remember once his little sister fell on it as it was going 12 miles per hour on the belt. And she definitely got a third degree burn on her arm. And I was like, that needs to be looked at. And they were like, put some Neosporin on. Mario. Stop fucking around.

B (17:05)

Oh, my God. Speaking of treadmills, Josh, I went to Equinox yesterday. Okay. I walked on. It's three and a half, but at 12. Three and a half, 12 incline. How's that for 30 minutes?

A (17:16)

Amazing.

B (17:17)

I was sore as shit. Three and a half at 12 incline. And Josh, something crazy happened. Okay, I'm. Look, I dabble in. We all know that I love a massage. And this new Equinox that I'm going to. They have a full spa. So I just wanted to understand what does. What's the menu look like? How much is a massage? What do you have? I don't know if they have this in LA, Josh, but they offered me a robotic 100% AI massage. Yes. $15. 15 minutes. $30. 30 minutes. This is competitive pricing, like you're going to the corner nail salon. This is great pricing. $15, 15 minutes. I booked it for later this week. I'm going to let you know how it goes. But they claim it feels just like human hands. How scary is that? Thoughts that.

A (18:03)

I love that. If INA is how you're. You're the reverse ina. How scary is that? It's like if ina. If INA hosted like a Goosebumps hour. Like.

B (18:19)

Like Aina on Halloween.

A (18:21)

Yeah.

B (18:21)

How spooky is that? How spooky is that?

A (18:25)

I love it.

B (18:27)

That's funny. How scary is that?

A (18:31)

I think it's awesome. Look, you know me. And you're about to be too, clearly, because I'm going to make the connection. I'm in the Equinox Spam. Equinox was. Did this big thing for, like, World Mental Health Day. They do AI massage robots. They're at the cutting edge. So I'm excited. I would definitely try one of those robot massages. Why not? You know, I love a deal.

B (18:53)

They had me at $15 for 15 minutes. Like, if that was priced any differently, I would have been like, no, I'll go with the human. $15, Josh. Or $110. Yeah, $110 for 25 minutes or 15 bucks for 15 minutes. I might as well give it a shot. Like, what's the worst thing that can happen? The AI punctures through my back and it goes out my heart and I die. What's the worst thing that could happen? Ideally, accidentally nick an artery. What's the worst thing that could happen?

A (19:25)

I think that sounds fab. I mean, I'm down to clown with any type of massage. I'll get a massage in an airport. I'll get it. I mean, I would get it in the middle of the mall, but I'm usually with my children. But I love. You know, at Planet Fitness, they have. Because you know me, I'm high, low, babe. Like, I'm like, get the Equinox membership or get the $11 Planet Fitness membership and get in and get out. Yes, but they have a upgrade where you can get. They have the jet stream massage. You've seen this? No, it's so stupid.

B (19:57)

They're.

A (19:57)

They're like tanning beds. You lay inside and you're covered with a tarp and it blasts like water. Like water jets are the pressure on your body. And you can, like, spend an extra, I don't know, nine bucks a month and get that in addition. So whilst that's not gonna appeal to me to give up my Equinox membership over, I'm glad it exists.

B (20:18)

Is the pressure strong? And do we think that they clean these things? I'm now like. Like, it sounds kind of yucky.

A (20:26)

Nah, you're judgmental.

B (20:28)

It's possible. Maybe it's clean. I. Oh, you think it's dirty? I was going to say, I don't know if I'm judgmental. I think I'm a realist. You are not going in the cold plunge of Planet Fitness, are you?

A (20:42)

No, bro, I would not. I would. I would hold my pee at a Planet Fitness. I wouldn't even pee. Like, I used to do that when I. And respect. Like, it's not talking shit about these places. It's just a reality. I used to go to 24 Hour Fitness. What?

B (20:58)

No, it's not judgment. I mean, it's not talking about them. They know this. This is their plan, Josh.

C (21:03)

Right.

B (21:03)

Planet Fitness appeals to the same person that a seatown appeals to. Okay. That a Key foods appeals to. They intentionally make their products feel a little bit grosser so that they feel approachable. It's 100% marketing. You then go into a seatown and the groceries are very similar in price to that of a Whole Foods. It's just you don't think that you should be going to a Whole Foods. Almost like that. It's too expensive, it's too premium. It's the same thing with the Planet Fitness. It just appeals to a different person. And if the gym was too nice, they would think that it's not for them. Yeah.

A (21:38)

Wow. That's so true.

B (21:39)

Marketing 101.

A (21:40)

Like this podcast is like if Costco had a Hermes bag. Right?

B (21:46)

Right. Yes.

A (21:47)

That's what we are. We are the premium of schnurrers.

B (21:53)

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A (25:37)

By the way, your boy is back on his Wellbutrin journey and I'm eight days in and I am I could set a. I could set a school on fire. I'm so happy right now.

B (25:47)

Sorry. Well, you shouldn't do that. Somebody come get as Wellbutrin. Oh, yeah, clearly it's having side effects of arson. Somebody come take away his Wellbutrin. I'm so proud of you. First of all, claps. Claps for taking meds. You take Wellbutrin. What did I just start recently? Oh, I had a momentous creatine chewable this morning. That was hot.

A (26:16)

That's fun.

B (26:17)

Ooh, it was. It was delicious.

A (26:20)

You know what it is? When you're on the right meds? It's just like a brain hug. It's just like. It's like you haven't been touched in a really long time. Like, you've been out in the wilderness, and then just someone appears in, like, a really nice, like, emergency vest, and you're like. And it's this really fun transition period, those first two weeks, where you start to get the energy back that you'd lost through depression, but you still have the scary thoughts. So now you have the energy to act out on those scary thoughts, but you're like, no, I shouldn't. I'll never be able to go back. It's cool.

B (26:56)

That sounds like a journey for sure. Okay, so what is. Why would you. Why would you ever go off it if it makes you feel great?

A (27:05)

You know, it's the dichotomy of any kind of only speaking from my experience. It's Dr. Mike, the YouTube doctor who refuses to come on the pod. He said it best that if a drug doesn't have side effects, it has no effects.

B (27:22)

Right.

A (27:22)

Even the best drugs have some profile of side effect. It's unavoidable. And so I think, especially for anyone, because it's something that is affecting your mind. But for me, like, lucidity, the ability in which to do this, acting like everything I do is at the forefront of my brain, of creativity, of synapses, of the way in which I access emotion and my words and memories. So anything that could potentially sort of reconfigure that, I think was the reason why I went 34 years without it, because I just felt like, yeah, got it. Maybe it could benefit me. But with my kind of work, it would. I would be worried that it would just rewire some things that would. I couldn't get back. So I think that for me, when I got on it, it felt such. I felt such a relief. But then after three years, I felt like I had sort of come to this funny place of needing to reassess, maybe switch it, maybe take a little more. I wasn't sure. So, luckily, with, you know, the proper oversight of a healthcare professional, I sort of got off and I took three or four months to see how I felt, and it was fine. But after that time, I was like, yeah, I. I could use this.

B (28:38)

Do you think that it has affected your work? Like, when you were on it, like, were you a worse actor?

A (28:44)

You can't get much worse.

B (28:46)

No, Shut up.

A (28:47)

No, no, no.

B (28:48)

Shut up.

A (28:49)

No, no, no. I. I think that if anything. And Rosie Perez, the great actor Rosie, to me once, when she talked about her journey and using antidepressants for a while because she went through an incredibly challenging childhood and all this stuff, she's like, it didn't inhibit. It inhibit me from good acting. It helped me to let go of the shit that was blocking me from doing good work.

B (29:12)

Got it.

A (29:13)

Like, all that bad sort of feedback loops of obsessive thoughts and deep insecurity. It just kind of says, oh, stop it already. You know, it's like a really good sort of boomer, Jewish grandfather. When antidepressants are working right where they don't really want to hear it, they just want to stop it. You're crazy. Have some more cake and stop it.

B (29:37)

Yeah. I just think that, like, the only thing that I can compare it to is my journey on GLPs. Like, first Ozempic, now, and then after Ozempic, it was like, you know, I can do this by myself, and I couldn't. So now I'm on Zepbound, and I, like, while there are some side effects, certainly the pros of it certainly outweigh the cons. And I think I'm gonna be on it forever. Like, I just. I. I wish. I don't even anymore. Wish that I couldn't be on it forever. I'm. I would be fortunate that, like, hopefully there's no, like, class action that comes out and says that there's something crazy wrong with all this shit, because I'd love to be on it forever because it really helps me. So, I don't know. I feel like learning to live with the side effects. And just, like, they're. The pros are so much better than the cons, at least. At least for me. By the way, side note, have you noticed my new camera here? You guys can't see because we're on zoom. My new camera, Josh, don't I look gorgeous? And it zooms in so nice on me.

A (30:37)

I. First of all, you look really handsome. I think it's just you're thin. I think the shirt you're wearing, you look like. I. Seriously, when you came on the zoom, I was like, I might need to. They might have to frame me from the navel up. But also, you are zooming in and out. We're seeing that.

B (30:54)

Oh, I am. Oh, it's moving.

A (30:55)

It's okay.

B (30:56)

Yeah, it's. It's. No, it's the new camera. It's this new Mac, which, by the way, I got a gorgeous new MacBook in a. It's not. It's like a black MacBook. I used to have a gray one. It's gorgeous. Apple products are just fantastic. Not as good as Samsung, but Apple products are really great.

A (31:14)

Listen, Apple products, Samsung. You let us know when you want to re up. With that being said, My new iPhone 17 Pro Max gorgeous. My wife has the iPhone 17 Air. I guess that's what it's called. Shout out, Apple. Shout out. My boy Dylan.

B (31:29)

I just ordered the new 17 Pro Max iPhone as well. I accidentally ordered the iPhone 17 and it came. And it's my hands and my fingers are just too big for. Too big and fat for such a small phone. So I returned that one. Now I have to wait until November 11th. November, you know, the window. The 11th to the 18th. It will come. I'm very excited. But I think that this zoom in feature also happens on FaceTime, right on the new iPhone. Like it tries to adjust to your voice. Probably still working out the kinks. That said, this looks much better normally. I'll throw you on zoom. You'll see everything. You'll see my camel toe. You don't need to see my camel toe now. I'm completely. I'm squared up of it.

A (32:12)

I would love it. That should be our other podcast working out the Kinks.

B (32:16)

Ooh, that's good, Josh. Yeah, really good.

A (32:19)

So our new.

B (32:19)

I love it.

A (32:20)

Or well, maybe we have a trifecta of podcast and it's good. Guys, guys. Gone gay and working on the Kinks.

B (32:26)

And our award winning Bollywood podcast, the Chai guys.

A (32:31)

God, can you imagine?

B (32:33)

We still. We really need to do an India tour. Yeah. Yeah. The Chai guys are so good.

A (32:38)

God, it's good.

B (32:38)

Oh, I love it.

A (32:40)

I have to.

B (32:41)

I love it.

A (32:41)

Ben already knows this, but I had quite the week last week with my sweet baby shy my middle son.

B (32:48)

Oh, yeah, I know, I know.

A (32:51)

But God was in play, as he tends to do. We got a call at like 10:30 in the morning. What?

B (32:59)

And I was in Play. You continue.

A (33:01)

Yes. You were in play. I, I, I got a call at around 10:30 in the morning. My wife goes, shy fell at school and he's fine, but they say he's going to need stitches. I go, no problem. I'll be right there. This is what unemployed. Josh. He looks like I saved the day. If I had five lines on NCIS Van Eyes, I would have said, take the kid to urgent care. Dad's got to get on set.

B (33:30)

You're employed. This podcast. This is. We're employed. We're employed. This is a job. Always employed. Yes, this is a job. It's really fun, but it's a job. Like, it's pretty crazy that it's a job. Like, I just get to, like, come and, like, talk to you about, like, dumb shit, like, I don't know, Mamdani Salami. And that's a job.

A (33:51)

I know, but this, right, because this is the best part. And then you having to wax on for two minutes about Discover Card and me having to edit this podcast at 5am is the part that's work.

B (34:03)

Yes, definitely work. For sure. And I don't know if you guys have noticed that our social media is booming. Yeah, that's right. I started making lists. Making lists, checking things off. Okay, check, check, check, check. Olivia, get me the thumbnail now.

A (34:24)

Poor Olivia. The worst thing Olivia ever did was work on a podcast with people like Ben and I me, who, like, I'll just text at 9:00 clock at night. And Ben, he'll be up at a reasonable 7:30 in the morning in New York, 4:30am Ben needs the thumbnail. Olivia.

B (34:44)

And also just people that really, like, we're never off. Like, sorry, Olivia. Like Saturday. It just. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm texting you for thumbnails on a Saturday if I don't do it. That's why my list is so important. Josh, List. And then I can check it off on a Monday.

A (34:59)

It's all right. She's got us muted. If she's smart, she's fine.

B (35:04)

It's fine. All right. Shy. God, Tangent shy. Needs stitches. You run. Even though you're employed, you take time off of your job to go and care for your son.

A (35:15)

I go pick this kid up. He's gorgeous, but he's gonna need stitches. So we're headed to the hospital. I go, no urgent care. This is a cute kid. You know, if this was an uggo kid, you know, I would have put some Aquaphor on it and said, say a blessing. And we'll get you a Happy Meal. Hope for the best.

B (35:32)

He's so gorgeous. He's so gorgeous. My God, that hair. Oof.

A (35:37)

So we're so good. We're on our way to the hospital, and thankfully, our pediatrician, who I'm obsessed with one of the greats, Dr. Jesse, she calls, she goes, listen, if you're not at the hospital yet, I have a plastic surgeon that I work with in Beverly Hills. I see a lot of these chin choppers, you know, eyebrow hits with kids. She's like, and sometimes it scars so terribly. So if you can, I would go to the plastic surgeon. I said, no problem. So she sends me his name and the address. She's like, just go now. He can see you now in 30 minutes. This doctor. Listen to this name. Dr. Elazar Safer. You heard that, right? Olivia.

B (36:23)

Are you kidding me? This is is mishpocha. I was there. I was there in spirit, taking care of that sweet boy. Unbelievable. When you told me, you literally are like, you'll never guess who my doctor is. I'm like, Terry Dubrow, Dr. Nazarn. Like, what do you mean, Dr. Safer? Are you kidding me? It was great.

A (36:49)

Ben wrote me the cutest text when I was telling him about it. He wrote, hashem was in the room. God was in the room.

B (36:59)

God was in the room. That's another great podcast name. God was in the room.

A (37:05)

God was in the room. Love that. That could be a Mel Robbins offshoot. We'd pitch it to her, but she refuses to come on the pod. Mel, you got it, Mel. We love you. Please come on the Bottom podcast. She was booked. Now she's unbooked. She'll come on when she's your busy person. She's been number one on the bestseller list for two and a half years.

B (37:26)

Yeah, she'll come on whenever she reaches a new low. She probably just, like, texted in the middle of the night. She had a pint of ice cream. She was upset about something. She's like, I want to go on Good Guys. And then she woke up the next day. She's like, holy crap. What? What? Are you not. Yeah, I don't need that. New Day, new me.

A (37:43)

She was like, I'm Mel Robbins.

B (37:48)

She, like. She, like, had, like, an argument at work or something. She's just, like, feeling depressed. She's like, oh, I'll go on Good Guys. Next day. What the hell was that?

A (37:57)

She was like, who was that?

B (37:59)

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A (41:42)

Dr. Ellie Safre, goes by Ellie. This guy, he's our age, trained in New York and la. He's got two different practices. This guy's gorgeous. He goes, listen, we're gonna take care of shy. Gonna close him up, no problem. He's like, I said, great, you're gonna do it now in the office. He goes, oh, no, we have to do it at a surgery center. I go, oh, okay. And he says, and we're gonna have to put him under. So we'll have to wait, you know, four more hours. Cause he ate two hours ago for his stomach to empty out. And we'll have to make sure the anesthesiologist is available. I was like, wait, what? And he's like, yeah, man, he's three. Like, this is. He's like, if he was your older son, who's 6, maybe he could handle it. But at 3 years old, like, this could traumatize him. And also, like, he's not going to sit still, so it's not going to look as good. It's kind of the way to go. So I said, okay. So Shai and I spent the day we. I was going to take him to the mall in Beverly Hills and just walk around for a while, but we literally went into a Walgreens and spent almost two hours. He'd never been into a Walgreens. He was like, this place is tits. We walked the aisles of Walgreens for two hours. And then, then near the surgery center were the famous La Brea Tar Pits, where they found all the dinosaur fossils in la. So we walked around there for an hour. He loved that. And then I had to show up, man. This was like bde Big dad energy. And I'm there with him. And we, you know, all of a sudden, as my day started at 10:29 as a normal Tuesday, by 10:30, I was starting this thing that was gonna end with my son under anesthesia for an hour in a surgery. So it was nerve wracking. So we get checked in for the surgery and I'm there. Welcome back, everyone there, the staff's incredible. And I'm laying on the table with him and they've got a TV on and they're playing some show on Netflix that he loves. And then they just gently put this mask over his face. And it's like 10, 15 seconds. I'm trying to get a whiff, you know, a freebie. I'm like, you know, cher shy. You know, I'm trying to get fucking lit up. And then the anesthesiologist goes, okay, this is rapid head movement. Don't worry. This is all procedure. And all of a sudden Shy is just laying there. And then all of a sudden his head goes. I'm like, oh, my God.

B (44:12)

They're like, oh, my God.

A (44:13)

Totally standard. Don't worry. And then five seconds later, they're like, he's out. And they're like, dad, you can jump up. And the nurse picks Shy up. He's asleep. I leave the room and they said, it'll be 30 minutes max. And about 40 minutes in, I'm like, what's going on? This is like a little cut on his eyebrow, like, I'm flipping out. I asked the woman behind the desk, I'm like, can you go in and check? She does. She's like, they'll be soon. I come back, shy's awake. He's in my arms. It's all good. The doctor just, like, really was meticulous with this beautiful, perfect clothes. Shout out Dr. Safer. Who could expect anything less than perfection?

B (44:54)

Wow.

A (44:54)

From this gorgeous doctor. Oh, the best was he's like, you know, my name's Dr. Safer. I said, of course, the scribe. Very good. I learned what Safer met.

B (45:07)

And he's like, yeah, very good.

A (45:09)

And I said, oh.

B (45:10)

And.

A (45:10)

And he's like, you know, I grew up, I went to religious Jewish school. And, you know, he's like, I'm kosher, blah, blah, blah. I go, so says my co host.

B (45:19)

No, I'm kidding. Yeah, we should. We should get together, me and him, compare notes. Compare notes, Connect me to him. You never know when you could use a plastic. Is he a plastic surgeon?

A (45:30)

Double board certified.

B (45:33)

Fantastic. Fantastic. And now he. And Shai's back. He's all good. Was this. Is this. Did he have to take out the stitches or. They were the dissolved one.

A (45:42)

They dissolve beautifully. And moral of the story is. I don't know. There's no moral of the story here, but it really worked out. And Shy only threw up on his way home in my backseat. Just all over, all over. Because I applied the kid with sour patch, watermelon, and apple juice when he woke up because it's all he wanted. And I was like, this kid's gonna be so happy. And about 30 minutes into our trip, all of a sudden, I just hear in the background, dada. My stomach hurts. I'm like.

B (46:15)

Which car was it in?

A (46:16)

It's in the Tesla.

B (46:18)

All right, that's better. Yeah, it's better than the New Defender, the Defenda.

A (46:22)

Do you want to do one speak pipe?

B (46:23)

Yeah. I threatened them. I was like, if you give us more bad speak pipes and Collins, I'm pulling the plug on this whole podcast. Make it up. It's enough. That's what I said. Make it up.

A (46:34)

I love that. This one's from Kevin.

C (46:37)

What's up, Josh and Ben, weekly non Jewish Catholic listener from Dallas, Texas. My fiance actually has a lot of Jewish family members that we spend time with, and I appreciate this podcast for at least giving me some relevant talking points as an ally in those conversations, to the point I work out every day. But I can't help but be jealous of the schpitz culture that I'M missing out on it just sounds like a great way to decompress on a Sunday. Heading into the workplace week, our local Dallas Jewish Community center just renovated their locker rooms to include a whirlpool, cold plunge, steam room, and sauna. So I think it's time to get a membership. I'm in. My question as an aspiring non Jewish Spitzer, are there any unspoken rules or protocols that I should be aware of prior to taking the, no pun intended plunge? Obviously, I'll be avoiding taking any sort of speaker phone call into the sanctuary of Zone then, but I'm talking the simpler things, such as do I go full nude or is it a swim trunk kind of vibe? Do people like to have conversation? What is the towel protocol, etc? Just looking for any tips that help me appropriately fit in while it's not being called a goy behind my back.

B (47:42)

Thanks. This. This is speak.

A (47:46)

That's right.

B (47:47)

Okay.

A (47:47)

That's right.

B (47:48)

This is fantastic. You say something nice about the podcast, you tell us your dilemma. You ask a nice. This is a great question that will prompt a great conversation. Josh, there are so many things that go into proper etiquette when thinking about a steam, a sauna, a plunge. Should we should start? He asked, should I be naked? Unless you're incredibly proud of what's going on downstairs, I'd recommend that you wear some swim trunks. I don't need to see your nuts. You don't need to see my nuts. I just think that people who go naked, it's just a little bit too much. I recommend swim trunks or a towel. If you're talking about going naked, though, was he asking if he should go naked in the cold punch? Because that's a big no. No. 100%. You throw on a bathing suit, but even when you're in the Schwitz, you wear a towel. Yeah, right.

A (48:41)

I would wrap a towel. I hate bathing suit in the Schwitz. It just feels jocky because you're sure. But I understand it's necessary in some occasions.

B (48:51)

No, you don't need it. Okay, let me. Let me revise what I said. You don't need a towel and a bathing suit. Obviously. You can go either or when you're in the Schwitz. But if you're in a rotation of Schwitz cold plunge, then you're going to want to wear a bathing suit because you're not going to want to go naked into the communal cold plunge. That's nasty.

A (49:10)

Yeah, that's yucky. And here, if I may make a suggestion. And Kevin, I Don't mean to presume or to project. Maybe you're completely secure with your body.

B (49:18)

But if you're not, you get a nice.

A (49:22)

You get a nice towel and you do the wraparound. This is how I'm walking around the. This is me right now. If you notice, I've got the two corners like a Jewish spiritual garment. A tallit covering the nips. Yes. So this way I'm not, you know, know I'm not putting out my pepperoni nips. I'm just sitting there getting a nice sweat while feeling secure. While feeling.

B (49:49)

So you're. So you're double toweling. You're toweling around the waist. I just want to make sure that nobody thinks that you're only covering your nipples, but you're just, like, sitting there.

A (49:58)

How funny would that be?

B (49:59)

Like, I'm really insecure about my nipples, sir. I can see your cock. Okay. What do you mean you're insecure about your nipples? Like, I'm looking at your.

A (50:11)

Don't look at my decolletage.

B (50:13)

Look at my decolletage. I thought you were gonna. I thought you were gonna say that. You wrap your towel around your neck and then you pull down the towel so it just covers your nether regions. I'm like, that's a new one.

A (50:27)

I use my towel like the curtain set of community. Community playouts. Who's ready?

B (50:43)

Oh, that's funny. So, yeah, Kevin, recommend at least one towel. And don't be too chatty. Kevin. Okay. Like, they're there to just, like, I don't know, be in their own thoughts. Deep breathe. Unless somebody starts a conversation with you, I just wouldn't be too chatty. That would be the other thing.

A (51:00)

Thing. Should we get to Woody Nuts? We should. Our Woody Nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and tall. Whatever is sticking in your craw. Mine. Are cyclists now.

B (51:12)

Vegan, small.

A (51:16)

Now.

B (51:17)

Like Rochester. You do okay. Like Rochester. I love it.

A (51:24)

Cyclists are nuts. You know what I've noticed? Kids are respectful bike riders because somehow they feel the weight of what's happening, which is, at any moment, they could have catastrophic injury. Similarly, older cyclists, I've noticed, always give me the wave. So kind, share the road. Kind. It's you assholes from 20 to 50 that really listen. No matter what you think, what world we live in, I know the world you think you deserve. Let's live in the world that is. You are a guest on my road. Because my car could end you so quick. This is not my intention. God forbid. God forbid. A thousand times. But don't be a dick, because it's nuts. And people have to be really careful and make sure you're okay so you can enjoy your hobby that you wear spandex for. What are you, nuts?

B (52:22)

Amen. What are you nuts? These cyclists. It's enough, Josh. My what do you nuts Is. I recommended to our nice speak pipe caller that he shouldn't be chatty in the steam. You also shouldn't be chatty on a plane, Josh. Ok, I'm sitting, earphones in. I'm watching my new favorite show, Severance. Ever heard of it? I'm addicted. Unbelievable. It's my new airplane show. I'm on episode four. I'm watching it. It's a very intense show.

A (52:50)

Show.

B (52:50)

I'm watching it. He taps me on the shoulder. I turn to him. I'm like, headphones in. And I go back. Ten minutes later, Josh taps me on the shoulder. I take out my earphone. I say, yes. It's like. Like nicely, like, yes. Like, what's going on? He said, do they not bring hot towels anymore? I'm like, sir, what are you nuts? I'm watching a show. I don't work for the airline. I don't know if you're going to get a fucking hot towel an hour later, Josh, they bring around hot towels. He taps me on the shoulder. He's like, they brought the hot towel. Can you. Are you okay? Are you okay, sir? What are you, nuts? Don't touch me. Don't talk to me. If your headphones are in on an airplane, Josh, that means no conversation. I don't want to talk to you. I don't know you. Sayonara. It was a complete. What do you nuts? I couldn't believe it.

C (53:45)

Love it.

A (53:46)

Take us home.

B (53:47)

You know what else I love, Josh? I love when we get five stars on this podcast, because anything else would be a. What are you nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips, Instagram and Tik Tok. Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time.

A (54:11)

Please note that this episode may contain.

B (54:13)

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A (54:16)

Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.