Built to Schill

Summary

Good Guys – "Built to Schill" (December 4, 2025) – Episode Summary

Overview of Main Theme

In this lively episode, Josh Peck and Ben Soffer embrace their full-on shill mode, celebrating their knack for selling products—whether on Amazon Live, in a Hallmark movie, or hawking deals at outlet malls. The show is a playful mix of meta-commentary on influencer culture and honest talk about family, travel, and why being “built to schill” is not so bad if you do it with humor. The duo also delve into personal stories—travel nightmares, Thanksgiving memories, sleep training woes—and field real-life listener advice, all in their signature Jewish-cousin energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

In-Person Energy & The Art of the Shill

• The Magic of Recording Together (01:37–02:28)
  Ben and Josh gush about being together in person, joking about their “romance” and how it sparks their comedy.
  • Ben: “Nothing gets me more jazzed than in person episodes. … We get to bring our romance into real life.”
• Aspiring to QVC Stardom & Amazon Live (02:28–03:32)
  The hosts recognize their skill in making ads "fun" and imagine perfect careers selling products.
  • Josh: “My end game ... is daylighting live streaming for Amazon, selling products… And then every—I'm doing four Hallmark movies a year.”

Hallmark Movie Pitch (03:21–04:05)

Josh and Ben riff a Hallmark plot: Josh as an Amazon Live inventor, falling for an Amazon employee (maybe even Lauren Sanchez!), blending influencer shill with rom-com tropes.

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Black Friday & Discount Shopping Culture

• Is Black Friday Dead? (04:34–05:42)
  Josh recalls camping outside Best Buy, but says the deal-hunting magic is gone thanks to Amazon’s everyday accessibility.
  • Ben: “Amazon just destroyed Black Friday culture.”
  • Josh: “The problem with all deals in general is it’s never the thing you want … If you want 40% off, you can get it in salmon. Great.”
• Outlet Malls—Heaven for Deal Seekers (06:51–07:31)
  Ben’s love for Woodbury Commons runs deep, touting its sales and variety.
  • Ben: “I’ll never buy shoes outside of Woodbury Commons again. … They had everything … except it’s half off.”

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Josh’s Travel "Masterclass"

• Optimizing Work Travel with Family (07:31–12:14)
  Josh details his meticulous travel plan involving red-eye flights, airport hotels, and squeezing in treats like deep-dish pizza while minimizing time away from his family—offering a dry, comedic guide.
  • Josh: “Platinum Bonvoy member here. Just tell me the room and make sure it’s by the ice machine. The louder the better.” (08:57)
  • Ben: “Top to bottom. Bravo. Bravo. … It’s a masterclass in how to travel with children, Josh, while still carving some time for yourself.” (12:15)

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Air Travel Mishaps & TSA Anxieties

• Killer Vinaigrette and TSA Woes (15:02–19:31)
  Ben’s “What are you nuts?” moment: getting hit in the neck by a giant bottle of Newman's Own vinaigrette after takeoff, questioning how it made it through TSA.
  • Ben: “How the fuck did she get a bottle of Newman’s on that plane? … The whole thing was absolutely insane.” (15:28)
• The Salad Dressing Empire (19:09–19:59)
  Ben and Josh riff on brands: “You should have sued Newman. Paul Newman, okay? They’re the ones who hit me in the neck. The salad empire. Not her.” (19:09)
• Brand Name Tangents & Baby Names (20:14–24:06)
  Lighthearted confusion about food brands leads into a discussion about naming kids, balancing tradition and freshness.

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Thanksgiving Reflections

• Making Thanksgiving Meaningful (28:03–31:35)
  Ben talks about preparing a two-week Thanksgiving at home, recognizing how the holiday’s meaning evolved as his relationship with family changed.

  • Ben: “Now it’s just… a deeper, more meaningful relationship with the people I’m sharing a table with. … I think it’s the ultimate holiday.” (29:28)
  • Josh: “If you can get behind the idea of gratitude… there’s no religious pressures, there’s no gifts, and there’s a hard out.” (30:22)

• Thanksgiving Parade Disaster (31:35–33:34) Ben recounts the misery of watching the NYC Thanksgiving Day Parade live: “If you get offered tickets to anything made for TV, say no, okay? It’s made for TV for a reason.” (31:57)

  • Josh chimes in as a onetime parade participant and his mom’s ingenuity making his Pugsley Addams costume with a bribed Foot Locker shirt.

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Parenting, Sleep Training, and Privilege

• Sleep Training "the Davis Way" (35:56–47:27)
  Josh discusses hiring a “baby whisperer” named Davis after struggling to sleep-train their third child. The conversation is both confessional and self-aware about the privilege.
  • Josh: “Let me tell you, Ms. Davis… after three days, she’s like, congrats, your kid is sleep-trained. I said, I think I’m having a regression, Davis.” (38:24)
  • Ben: “I would like to do it preemptively. Listen, I’m 39, and I see my first colonoscopy on the horizon, and I can’t wait.” (39:09)
• Casual Medical Tangents (39:09–40:08)
  Jokes about colonoscopies and prostate surgery highlight the show’s tendency to mix oversharing with humor.

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Listener Advice and “Are You Nuts?” Grievances

• Listener Mail: Medical Lingo Mix-Up (48:53–50:13)
  A PA listener mistakes BH (Baruch Hashem, or ‘thank God’ in Hebrew) for a blood test acronym, thanks to the show.
  • Ben: “Honestly, Josh, BH, man. She’s got God on the brain.” (49:38)
• Listener Call: Mother-in-Law Skips the Fourth Baby Shower (50:15–56:38)
  Community debate: Is a mother-in-law wrong for skipping her daughter-in-law’s fourth baby shower?
  • Ben: “This is a complete ‘What are you nuts’ on your mother … that’s… get in the car, lady.” (51:29)
  • Josh: “She lost me at four baby showers. … If she’s gone to the first three… sometimes I get it with OG, like parents who are like in their 70s and they’re like, you’re going to have a nice thing with… and it’s a lot for me.” (52:41–53:27)

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“What Are You Nuts?” (Gripes of the Week)

• Ben’s “What Are You Nuts?” (57:40)
  Still furious about being struck by salad dressing mid-flight: “Newman’s hits you in the neck in flight. That’s nuts.”
• Josh’s “What Are You Nuts?” (57:43–59:52)
  Staying at a sketchy airport Residence Inn in Oklahoma: “For the first time, I felt unsafe... I put multiple pieces of furniture in front of the door.”
  • Ben: “Josh, you don’t really get scared that easily… that means it must have been fucking scary.” (59:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We’re so good at making ads fun, Josh, that I think we were built for an Amazon Live.” — Ben (02:09)
• “My real true end game is daylighting live streaming for Amazon… then every—I’m doing four Hallmark movies a year.” — Josh (02:32)
• “I can’t turn down a sale. It would not be healthy for me if I lived near an outlet mall.” — Josh (06:30)
• “You’ve got a classic. Classic. Yeah, we’re gonna go classic.” — Ben on baby names (21:18)
• “If you get offered tickets to anything made for TV, say no, okay? … Don’t go [to the parade]. Somebody who offers you tickets… they’re no friend, Josh.” — Ben (31:57)
• “You don’t want to listen to a podcast of a couple of Joe Schmoes. That’s not what you’re here for. You’re here for the privilege.” — Ben (37:03)
• “She goes to a Foot Locker and pays one of the employees for their referee shirt. ‘$20. My son’s a star. You should understand.’” — Josh (34:22)
• “Let me tell you, Ms. Davis… after three days, she’s like, congrats, your kid is sleep-trained. I said, I think I’m having a regression, Davis.” — Josh (38:24)
• “How the fuck did she get a bottle of Newman’s on that plane? … The whole thing was absolutely insane.” — Ben (15:28)
• “Test small, okay? Figure out what works. Double down. I’m telling you, you are one step away from living out your dreams. You have a great idea. If I hear another great idea, I’m actually going to kill you.” — Ben on entrepreneurship (41:53)

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Important Timestamps

• In-person podcast magic: 01:37–02:28
• Amazon Live & Hallmark movie dream: 02:28–03:32
• Black Friday laments & deal hunting: 04:34–06:07
• Travel tips "masterclass": 07:31–12:14
• Vinaigrette bottle/TSA story: 15:02–19:31
• Thanksgiving traditions & parade disasters: 28:03–33:34
• Sleep training talk: 35:56–47:27
• Listener mail (medical mix-up): 48:53–50:13
• Mother-in-law & baby shower debate: 50:15–56:38
• "What are you nuts" segment & travel horror: 57:40–59:52

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Tone & Language

• Authentic, fast-paced, and self-deprecating. The Jewish cousin banter permeates; jokes often turn into real advice; light ribbing, but always affectionate with each other and the audience.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode effortlessly blends shoptalk about influencer culture with honest family chatter, punchy stories, and listener dilemmas. Whether you want travel hacks, relatable parent struggles, or just to hear two friends riff on life “built to schill,” this one delivers the goods—with laughs and wisdom in equal measure.

Transcript

[Ben]

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[Josh]

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[Ben]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

We're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys.

Mazda morons. I'm sitting here with someone who needs no introduction.

And I'm sitting.

Oh.

[Ben]

Oh my God. If you're watching on YouTube, Josh just. Is that a funny bone? What is that?

[Josh]

I'm gonna bruise like a summer peach. I just know it.

[Ben]

I'm so sorry. Josh just broke his wrist. I'm gonna bruise like a. I'm sorry.

[Josh]

Jewish.

[Ben]

Sorry, bub.

[Josh]

I look like a pair.

[Ben]

I'm so built like a pair. A Jewish pear. Oh, that would be interesting. The Jewish pair.

[Josh]

Body by pair.

[Ben]

Oh, Josh.

Benny and Joshy. Black and blue. Benny and Joshi. It's gotten quite cold in New York. 33 degrees. Josh and I almost blew away my 239 pound. That's right. We're back in the 30s. We're frame almost whisked into the wind. Gone 30 mile per hour winds.

[Josh]

Shonda just. They. It whips. It whips through those buildings.

[Ben]

It does. It does. It's a wind tunnel. Josh, I'm seeing you in person this week and I just have to say.

[Olivia]

Nothing gets me more jazzed.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Than in person episodes. So fun. It's just excellent. We get to bring our. Our romance into real life. I get to slowly just or subtly just throw my hand on your thigh during the episode.

[Olivia]

It's just so nice.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, we're basically doing Amazon's version of Home Shopping Network and I'm fucking here for it. It's. It's always been my dream of being on qvc.

[Ben]

Yeah. And I just think that we're so good not to toot our own horns, but I'll toot. We're so good at making ads fun, Josh, that I think we were built for an Amazon live for us to hawk a product where it's known that we're hawking a product because that's what it is.

[Olivia]

It's fantastic.

[Ben]

We're going to have so much fun. And Amazon, you should pay us more.

[Josh]

Because we're talking about it 100% and I'm built to shill. And the truth is that I think my end game, like my true, true end game of me at My happiest would be daylighting during the day in Connecticut at QVC headquarters or home shopping. I don't know. Or maybe I'm just live streaming for Amazon. Forget those two. My real true end game is daylighting live streaming for Amazon, selling products. Fun tech, fun cookware, what have you. And then every. I'm doing four Hallmark movies a year. Inner Nash. I love it. Right? I love it. One in the uk, one in Rhode Island. You know, seeing the world through Hallmark.

[Olivia]

I love it.

[Ben]

And what if you tie them together? Or maybe in the Hallmark movie, you're an inventor. Okay. Yeah. Of a product shilling on Amazon. Yes.

[Josh]

And someone.

[Ben]

Imagine that. Imagine you play Thomas Edison, okay? You invent the light bulb, and all of a sudden you're selling light bulbs on Amazon live. This is 360, okay? This is 360.

[Josh]

And maybe my romantic interest, she works for Amazon, right? Like, maybe she's a camera person and. Or she's just an Amazon delivery driver.

[Ben]

Or maybe it's Lauren Sanchez. She's your love interest. You bring it to the top.

[Josh]

I poach her from Bezos.

[Ben]

You do? I love it. I absolutely love it. That is the dream gig, for sure. Hallmark movies, they're so joyous, they're so fun, they're so fantastic. Everybody loves them. Break out the eggnog. You sit next to a fire, you throw on a Christmas rom com. What's better than that? And then you go for Black Friday, even though Black Friday already happened and you're shopping. You're shopping the goods. This is. This is December done. Right?

[Josh]

Speaking of Black Friday, have you ever camped out for a Black Friday?

[Ben]

No.

[Josh]

No.

[Ben]

You.

[Josh]

You're not. Outside of Best Buy, I did it once and I was like, all this for a plasma?

[Ben]

It's just. It's just not like I. I think that we have too much accessibility to good deals these days and ways to find something cheaper. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

Like it used to be. Yeah. You'd camp out for a plasma because your plasmas cost ten grand. But right now, if you want to go on Amazon, you're going to find whatever the new plasma is, three years old for 800 bucks, like every day. The deal exists on things like that. And then the things you really want, Josh, are never on sale. That sick home theater. You're not going to. You're not going to see a deal for it at Best Buy. You're not. You're going to find deals for things you can get on Amazon. I feel like Amazon just Destroyed Black Friday culture. Right.

[Josh]

The problem with all deals in general is you're right, it's never the thing you want. I'll be like, can I just get this shirt in black? And they'll be like, no, but if you want 40% off, you can get it in salmon. It's like great.

[Ben]

And you get it in salmon and that's why you wear salmon shirts. Me too. It's like that one time that I came to la, I think my luggage was lost or something, or it was delayed. And I went to Nordstrom Iraq and I bought all new stuff, but there was just something wrong.

[Olivia]

Wrong.

[Ben]

A little bit wrong with everything. Like, it was that perfect long sleeve. What's that material with the holes?

[Josh]

Waffle mix. Thermal waffle.

[Ben]

Thank you. Waffle. But these had to have elbow pads. I didn't need one with elbow pads. I just wanted a waffle long sleeve. But the 40% off version comes with the elbow pads that are conveniently not in the place of your elbow. They're like on your arm. I need an elbow pad, right?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So who needs an elbow pad on a waffle shirt?

[Josh]

I can't.

[Ben]

Don't.

[Josh]

I can't turn down a sale. It would not be healthy for me if I lived near an outlet mall. Like, I just. My wife will give me gift cards to Nordstrom sometimes as like a Hanukkah presenter, and she'll literally write in the card, try not to buy something on sale, because I can't. That's it for me, by the way.

[Ben]

It's, it's. It's a great thing to be like that. Not shopping full priced items, especially for clothing, is really dumb. It's really dumb. Like you can get. You can typically get the same thing for less. I love Woodbury Commons. We've spoken about it at nauseam on this podcast. It's been an ad and they've never reached out. Let me tell you, the Commons, they're it. I'll never buy shoes outside of Woodbury Commons again. At least not nice loafers. They had everything. They had your regular stuff. You're looking for a brown loafer, Josh. They have it at Todd's. Except it's half off. Why am I going to Bloomingdale's and buying it full price? I'm not. Doesn't make any sense.

[Josh]

So gorgeous. I love a good sale and I. Ooh, okay, wait, let me. So obviously the people know that I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be ending up in New York. Can I talk to you about my travel up until New York. That it's gonna.

[Ben]

I need to know. When are you. Yeah, when are you leaving?

[Josh]

I've got three days ahead of me. Wow. I do. I do. So I'm going to be speaking at the University of Notre Dame. Okay.

[Ben]

Wow, that's great.

[Josh]

Notre Dame.

[Ben]

That's a big freaking school, Josh.

[Josh]

South Bend School, Indiana. Been there.

[Ben]

It's not like. That's not like the Boys and Girls Club of.

[Josh]

What's it called?

[Ben]

Rosen Shingle. This is big. This is big news. Yeah. Notre Dame. The Fighting Irish. The other Brian Kelly.

[Josh]

Yes, I married the Fighting Irish. She is Irish. And we do fight.

I so. And, you know, I've done a lot of these college gigs and obviously I have a family. And so it's very important to me to like, really optimize travel. And I really, really feel like I got it dialed in. So I'm going to fly ununited on a red eye Tuesday night to Chicago, baby. Four hours, lay down seat, 600 bucks, one way. Say less.

[Ben]

Well done.

[Josh]

I land at 5am you guessed it, Booked the night before at the Spring Hill Suites, Rosemont, one and a half miles away from Chicago o'. Hare. Okay, So I pick up my car, I'm driving to that place. They go, sir, check ins. Not for nine hours. I go check in. Already happened, dear. Give me my fucking card. Platinum bond boy. Member here? Just tell me the room and make sure it's by the ice machine. The louder the better.

I get in there, babe.

[Ben]

Boom.

[Josh]

It's.

[Olivia]

It's.

[Josh]

I landed at 5am It's 6am by now. Max. Max. Okay, close the curtains, put on the eye shades, earplugs. Set the alarm for, you guessed it, 8:30am because the free continental breakfast ends at 9. Then I'm downstairs and I'm perusing. Maybe I get something, maybe I don't. But I have the option, right? Take a couple bananas upstairs in case the old pea, sugar gets low. Cop a couple coffees, you know, popping coffee mates. I'm taking a couple, you know, straight coffee mates right to the face. And then spend the day, work out, drive to India. Like, I don't.

[Ben]

I don't.

[Josh]

I don't stay in South Bend. It's crazy. Stay by a major city, major airport. 90 minute drive to South Bend, Indiana. No problem. I'll get a vape. You know, I'll be rich. I'll be ripping vapes.

[Ben]

You don't need a. You don't need a vape. You need. You need real cigarettes. You need to smoke in this car in the red. You need to get out in the rental. Yeah, but the rental in the school or something. They're going to get a letter. Josh smoked Barbara Reds in your rental.

[Josh]

I'm comfortable covering the cost in a Corolla.

[Ben]

You get out, there's a cloud of smoke. Hey, kids.

[Josh]

Where are we going?

I'm double dragging it before just like. Like Mr. Peck.

Yeah, let's go.

And then I give a speech to the kids. I come back, I go to bed, I wake up. You know, maybe I go to like. The great thing about Rosemont, Illinois is that they know that there's a lot of people who are gonna stay by the airport, but they want the conveniences of Chicago. They want the flair, they want the fun. So there's a Giordano's deep dish pizza right by there. There's a Gibson steakhouse. Maybe I take myself out to a 2000 calorie lunch at 11am Right?

[Ben]

You have to. You must.

[Josh]

Then I fly in from Chicago to LaGuardia. Two hours coach. Anything less than two hours, I only do coach. And should I go meet up with you in the city? We go to the Schwitz at your boy's place. Live.

[Ben]

Yes, yes.

[Josh]

Next day we do Amazon. We record pods with Joey Commasta. I fly home. Is that a three days?

[Ben]

Excellent. That is so good.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

It's a masterclass in how to travel with children. Josh, while still carving some time for yourself.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

Okay. You did it. Excellent. Top to bottom.

[Josh]

Thank you.

[Ben]

Bravo. Bravo. I can't wait. And we're having the great Joey Commasta on. My God, is Joey a hoot? I can't wait. I can't wait. He's just so fun to talk to. I can't wait.

[Olivia]

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[Ben]

Josh. I was going to save it as my what do you nuts. But I have to tell you about my travel experience two weeks ago.

[Josh]

Great.

[Ben]

Get on to Lane. And as you know, TSA very strict. Josh can't bring a bottle of water. You can't bring any liquids, right? Unless they're in the 3 ounces or whatever the the specified TSA is. I'm sitting, we're about to take off. All of a sudden.

Something really, really heavy hits me in the neck. Like really heavy, really hurt. All of a sudden I hear the woman behind me say, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I looked to my right, Josh. There's an enormous bottle of Newman's Own balsamic vinaigrette. Enormous like family sized bottle of vinaigrette that fell out of her bag in the overhead and pierced me straight in the neck. I will Send you the picture. I had a br. I had a bruise. Josh, two questions. One, how the fuck did she get a bottle of Newman's Home on that plane? How did she do it? I can't get a water bottle through tsa. She got. She brought her vinaigrette. Second, you can't get vinaigrette in Florida at Publix. What are you nuts? The whole thing was absolutely insane.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's insane.

[Ben]

I know. That's why I had to tell you. See, I can't save anything. I couldn't even save my woody nuts. I mean, I've been chomping at the bit to tell you that story.

[Josh]

Okay, is there a chance that there's, like, you know, a dresser, a dressing store in Newark Airport?

[Ben]

No.

[Josh]

Right. You never know. And, no, if there isn't, there should be.

[Ben]

But they don't sell whole bottles. They sell.

Right.

[Josh]

Can you imagine?

[Ben]

I love it. I love it.

[Josh]

You're taking a flight to Nashville, and you're like, I need some Ken's Honey Mustard. You know?

[Ben]

Always need Ken's Honey Mustard. The premier honey mustard.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Okay, number one. Number one is a Ken's Yellow. Lord knows how they make it that yellow. But number one, I'd love a bottle of Ken's on the plane that said, josh, can't do it. There's no way that she bought it. She brought it from home.

[Josh]

Okay, all right. I.

[Olivia]

Then.

[Josh]

Then it's the picture of the. Tsk. I was bruised. That's upsetting.

[Ben]

Earlier, the tsa. I told my mom the story. She's like, you should write a letter to the airline. I said, mom, I'm not writing a letter to the airline. I don't want this problem anymore.

[Olivia]

Over.

[Ben]

She's like, ben, they'll probably give you a free flight. Like, I don't want it. I don't want to think about it. It's over. Would you have written the letter?

[Josh]

Well, I don't mean to disagree with the great Ava here, but I might have. I might have handled this improperly. I was on American Airlines, and I told you that. That the masks fell from the compartment that holds, like, literally popped open on takeoff and was hanging, flinging back and forth in business class. So much so that the lovely flight.

[Ben]

Attendant had to take out duct tape.

[Josh]

That she told me is used to restrain people. I was like, what do you got, an Office Depot back there? She goes, no, it's in case of emergency. And she did do a tape job. And then it fell again before landing. And she said, can you Just hold it as we're land. Can you just do that so we're not. I was like, okay, I. I mentioned it to the airlines, and they said, hey, it's our bed. How would you like $150 credit? And I just. I should have. I should have said no, right? And seen if they would give me more. I should have held out.

[Ben]

For sure. 150. Yeah, it's a. That's a baloney credit. Baloney.

[Josh]

Not great.

[Ben]

You would deserve. You deserve the free flight for that. But for me, this woman brought in the Newman's. It wasn't the airline's fault. Honestly. I should have sued Newman. I should have sued Newman. Paul Newman, okay? They're the ones who hit me in the neck. The salad empire. Not her.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Olivia]

Not the airline.

[Ben]

Newman himself. Okay. Why are they making such large bottles? Okay, these bottles are too big. I've never seen a salad dressing bottle this big. It was enormous. Enormous. Nobody. Nobody has room for this bottle in their fridge, let alone in their bag on a plane.

[Josh]

You know, this is insane.

[Ben]

I should have sued Newman.

[Josh]

You know his name's not Newman, right?

[Ben]

Newman's Paul Newman.

[Josh]

Paul Newman. Okay.

[Ben]

I thought Newman.

[Josh]

I thought I was about to blow your mind. You're like, no, no, no. I know it's.

[Ben]

No, I know it's Paul Newman. That scarecrow. I know him. You think I'm this fat and don't know Paul Newman? Are you kidding me?

[Josh]

But, I mean, Paul Newman is a great Jewish actor. Yeah.

[Ben]

Is it the same Newman's.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Paul Newman. I didn't know that it was the same Newman's.

[Olivia]

Wow.

[Ben]

All right. There's a lot of money there. Who knew? Do you think Ken's is a. Ken should be.

[Josh]

But it's Ken Zhang.

I thought the craziest thing was he. He was a doctor. No, crazier. He's a salad dressing.

[Ben]

What. What about Sweet Baby Rays? You think it's a baby named Ray?

[Josh]

Oh, man. Who knows? That would be. That'd be a hot name for your next Reuben and Ray. Like, I. Wow.

[Ben]

Oh, I love Ray. That's great. Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, is there a pressure now? Because, I don't know, Max, Shy, and Meyer. I feel like there's a bit of a connecting fiber throughout the names. Like, Reuben is a beautiful, classic name. Do you feel like. Would. Do you feel pressure for your next beautiful child bro. Hashem. To not go too modern with the name?

[Olivia]

Interesting.

[Ben]

I haven't thought about it, but for sure, if we have a girl, she's got to be like, An Anna Marie. She must. We have to go classic, otherwise it's too disjointed. You can't have a Reuben and then Skyler Wolf. Yeah, sure, sure.

[Josh]

Skyler.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

No, you can't. You got a classic. Classic. Yeah, we're gonna go classic.

When it, when it will be, will be Alice. We'll go classic.

[Josh]

Reuben and Alice.

[Ben]

Wow, that's good. They can. They'd be great at canast. Or Ruben and Alice.

[Josh]

That's a sitcom in the 60s.

[Ben]

Yes, it is so good. Alice is a nice name. And by the way, people don't name their daughters Alice anymore.

[Josh]

Alice.

[Ben]

Alice is good. Do you like that?

[Josh]

What are your favorite names? Olivia.

[Guest Olivia]

Charlie will be my first, I think, regardless. And then I honestly don't really know, but I kind of like Lucy.

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[Ben]

These are beautiful names. And Jackie is a Charlie that. Let me tell you, he is unbelievable. Young Charlie's a great name. Would you go Charlie or Charles?

[Guest Olivia]

Charlie, like boy or girl?

[Josh]

Firstborn, but not like, not Charles on the birth certificate. Charlie all the way through.

[Guest Olivia]

Yep, yep. My grandfather's name was Charlie, so.

[Josh]

Totally agree with that.

[Ben]

Yeah. Beautiful name. Beautiful name.

[Josh]

Max.

[Ben]

Are you Joshua? Are you Joshua on your birth certificate?

[Josh]

I am.

[Ben]

Don't you like that? You had the optionality, though. I'm Benjamin. Nobody's ever called me Benjamin. But if I wanted to, I could go by Benjamin. If you wanted to, you could go by Joshua, but you're always going to be Josh. Didn't you like the optionality or you didn't care for it?

[Olivia]

I don't know.

[Josh]

You know, like I never wanted my wife never wanted anyone to call him Maxwell or Maximilian or like it was just like Maximilian.

[Ben]

Maximilian's a tough one, that one. We gotta, we gotta just ditch that name. Maximilian. Like, Are you kidding me?

[Josh]

Yeah, it doesn't track. It ain't.

[Ben]

Doesn't track at all. Yeah. Maxwell I like though. But I agree. Max is a beautiful.

[Josh]

We liked for a girl, we really liked Noah Noa. And we thought that that's cute too. That would have been Max Shy and Noah. Noah Meyer.

[Ben]

Just realizing it's rare. This is probably not a true statement. I feel like it's more rare for girls to have long names and then go by short names. But very normal for guys to have long names and go by short names. Right. I feel like most girls just go by their name.

[Guest Olivia]

Jacqueline.

Maddie, Madeline. Yeah.

[Ben]

Jackie. Yeah. My sister.

[Guest Olivia]

Elizabeth. Beth. Liz. Liz, Olivia.

[Ben]

Point proven.

[Josh]

Diana.

[Ben]

Literally all my, all of my sister in laws have Long names and go by short names.

[Josh]

Yeah. Well, what's Margo? There's not a short name for that, right?

[Ben]

No, no, no. Not her. Just Margo.

[Josh]

Mom.

[Ben]

Claudia is just Claudia.

Marga. A million.

[Josh]

That's heavy.

Oh man.

[Olivia]

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I'm trying to think of.

[Josh]

There was something I wanted to tell you. Oh, well, this is going to come out way after, but like, what's the Thanksgiving plans for Ruby's first Thanksgiving?

[Ben]

Okay, so I'm so happy that you asked, Josh.

[Josh]

Of course.

[Ben]

First of all, I am. I am making this week, I am making all the things. Okay, Tomorrow you're gonna see I'm making a turkey. The next day, I'm taking that turkey and I'm using the carcass to make a beautiful turkey stock. From there, I'm going to make a turkey soup. From there, I'm going to use the turkey and I'm going to make turkey pot Pie. We're doing Thanksgiving in the Soffer house for two weeks. Okay. That's first and foremost. Now on the day, what is he going to be doing? He is going to be at his beautiful aunt's house, Jackie, where we are going to have a beautiful Thanksgiving. She is going to be cooking the bird. I'm going to be making sides. We're talking Mac and cheese. We're talking a sweet potato. We're talking about maybe a turkey pot pie. Some recipes that I'm testing this week. And that's going to be Ruby's first Thanksgiving. It's going to be in the great state of Florida. It's. It'll be a sunny Thanksgiving. And I, you know, I didn't always love Thanksgiving. I didn't. Why, I'm very much looking forward to Thanksgiving. I think that when I was growing up, it was always just like going to a cousin's house where like I saw them once a year on Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, you know.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

And like now it's just like a little bit different. Like I. I have a. I have a deeper, more meaningful relationship with the people that I'm sharing a table with. And I feel like, I'm sure that there are tons of people that can relate to that that like, you're not.

[Olivia]

So close to your cousins.

[Ben]

Maybe they're much older than you. You don't see them that often and.

[Olivia]

It turns into a drag.

[Ben]

Your parents are sort of forcing you to go. And then when you get to choose who you have Thanksgiving with, I think it becomes a little bit nicer. So I'm excited just because it's like a nicer table of people and. Right. I don't know if you have a similar sentiment, but I think it's the ultimate holiday.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It has a. I mean.

History isn't that great, but if you can dig. Geez.

[Ben]

If you can ignore that. Yeah.

[Josh]

If you can ignore everything that led up to the point of the creation of the holiday.

It's. I mean, if you can get behind the idea of gratitude and being thankful that it's universal holiday, that there's no religious pressures, there's no gifts and there's a hard out in that. It. It basically like most people work up until Wednesday sometimes like my agency, because they just can't seem to stay open ever. They'll think.

[Ben]

Oh my God.

[Josh]

They'll be like, it's Flag Day. UTA is taking the week off. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, I need an audition to shank. Don't you know.

It's funny, but like, most companies will work at least till Tuesday, maybe take the Wednesday off. And then it's like Thursday, Friday, there's things, there's the parade, there's football. Friday's Black Friday. And then like Monday, like everyone just goes back to normal. Whereas Christmas, I feel like, is a lot more pressure. And it's long. I mean, it's a. Like it's. It's a long time for everyone to be together because it's usually if you go to someone like you go to a. Family members, you're there for a week.

[Ben]

Yeah, totally. And if you. I know everybody remembers what that I went to the Thanksgiving Day parade last year and that catastrophe. And if you don't, I'll. I'll relive it with. For the. For the new listeners.

[Josh]

Was it. That's bad. It was freezing and Claude was pregnant.

[Ben]

It was bad because it was freezing. Claude was pregnant and it was pouring rain, Josh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Pouring rain.

[Josh]

Oh, I know.

[Ben]

Let me tell you, if you get offered tickets to anything made for tv, say no, okay? That's it. It's made for TV for a reason. If you're offered tickets to anything, you're not going to see anything. First and foremost, you're just going to see. If you're. You're either just going to see the performers or you're just going to see the floats. You're not going to see anything, okay? They're in different places. And it's so cold. And it's made for TV for a reason. Don't go last year. Oh my God, what a disaster. That said shout out Macy's. Okay, but what a disaster. Okay, this year, none of that. I'm going to be parked on my keyster watching the beautiful floats. I love watching it on tv. It's so fun. It's so nice. You hear a nice random song from a new Broadway play that you've never heard of and then you see the big turkey and it's. It's fantastic on tv. No need to go in person, say no. Somebody who offers you tickets to the Thanksgiving Day Parade, they're no friend, Josh. They know what they're doing, okay? They know what they're doing.

[Josh]

I told you, we've talked. I was in the Thanksgiving Day Parade. It rained from 5am to when it was done at 11. But let me tell you, there was an after party at Macy's that on 34th Street. That was fabulous.

[Ben]

I can't believe you made it to the after party, though. That's kudos. To you. Like, after that day, I'd just be like, fuck this. Get straight in the car and go.

[Josh]

I mean, I was 11, so I basically had to do anything my mom made me do.

[Ben]

Tell the story again in case. I think we have. I mean, I know we have a so many new listeners since last year that maybe haven't told you heard the story.

[Josh]

So true. Short story. There was a casting in New York for the Addams Family. I was a chubby boy, so I was perfect for Pugsley. I get the part Wednesday. Addams is played by a Ms. Alexandra Daddario. Okay. And we proceed to basically rehearse this thing where we're gonna do this dance on the float. Once you get to sort of the main center, but you have to start at like 90th street, make your way all the way to the telecast. Like three hours later on 34th Street. We did this, like, 45 second dance. And then I went to the after party. I probably got paid scale. Shout out.

[Ben]

Shout out.

[Josh]

The best part was, I remember my mom.

The shirt that Pugsy wears, it's famously a horizontal, like, hamburglar black and white striped shirt. And she couldn't. There was some problem with the shirt where they couldn't get it. And my mom was like, I got this covered. She goes to a footlocker and pays one of the employees for their referee shirt. She's like, $20. My son's a star. You should understand. And.

She brought the shirt to wardrobe. They cut it open, turned it around to make the line towards the model, and then just like, safety clipped it to my. Like, to a white T shirt. But, like, with the jacket over it, all you saw were the stripes.

[Ben]

Shout out, Barb. That's thinking quick, getting it done. Good stuff.

[Josh]

And the whole time she was doing it, she's like, there's no business, like, show mom. Stop thinking that.

Why are we doing that?

[Ben]

What are you doing? What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

[Josh]

I'm sure I'll be doing it at my. My wonderful in law's house, which I love doing. My sister in law, Blake, is pregnant and she's gonna give birth at the end of December. So that's it. We are in, in, in. I mean, I. I've never quite felt the restriction of kids so much as having a third now, where it's kind of like you just don't really feel comfortable right now going anywhere or doing anything ever again. But hopefully that will change sooner than later.

And. Oh, I gotta tell you about this. Let me check the time. You'll love this. We had the great Meyer four months old. And granted, when it's your third kid, you just. Perhaps. Perhaps he's a specific kid. Perhaps Paige and I just didn't quite have the time to be as on top of the sleep training as we once were with our first two kids. And so Meyer got some bad habits and he went into a full sleep regression, which happens at four or five months old. And we thought we were in the clear, but we weren't. So my wife. And granted, I know this is a luxury that most people don't use night nurses, but a lot of professionals who, if both parents work or they'll employ someone to come in to get up with the kid in the middle of the night. Paige and I have never done that. To Paige's credit, I have very little to do with this. She didn't do it for all three kids. She's amazing. She woke up with the kids every night. Again, I know all of you out there. That's what you're doing. Normally, I'm famous.

[Ben]

And keep your comments to yourself. Who cares?

[Josh]

So you don't want to listen to.

[Ben]

A podcast of a couple of Joe Schmoes. That's not what you're here for. You're here for the privilege.

[Olivia]

Continue.

[Josh]

A hundred. Fucking A, Ben. Thank you.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah. What is it? Go and listen to. Go and listen to Burton Kathy from your floor talk about their life. I'm sure you'll listen to a bunch of episodes. Yeah. Spraying each other's underwear next to the communal laundry machine. Okay, enough.

[Olivia]

Continue.

[Josh]

So we. We got wind of a baby whisper woman. Woman with the cool name of Davis. This woman, this saint, this angel.

[Ben]

You're lying. Her name is Davis.

[Josh]

Badass, badass woman. I assume in her 50s, Midwest, fabulous. A friend of my wife's, dear friend who has twins. She has four kids, and her last two are twins. She said, I couldn't do it. She's like, I needed someone to help me. And this woman basically goes, I come over and I stay over for three days. And after those three days, no matter what, your kid is sleep trained. And I said, paench, treat yourself. It was. It's not crazy expensive, you know, It's a luxury. Let me tell you, Ms. Davis, I don't want. I didn't want her to leave. I said, after three days, she's like, congrats, your kid is sleep trained. I said, I think I'm having a regression, Davis.

You know, I get up all the time. I have to pitch in the middle of the night. Can you do anything for that? She's like, I can't help you with your prostate.

[Ben]

Prostate surgery, Josh. It's called prostate surgery. And I now know that it's in my future. My dad had it. We talk about this already? No, my dad had it. Small, small little procedure.

[Olivia]

Just had.

[Ben]

Oh, you told me how to shrink it. Yeah, to shrink it. Okay. We did talk about.

[Josh]

That's cool.

[Ben]

Maybe we just spoke about this. Not yet. They shrink it. And other family members. I won't out them. Have also had it on my father's side. And I'm not going to lie, Josh. I know I drink a lot of water, but I feel like I pee a little bit more than I should be peeing. I also wake up in the middle of the night and I pee. So maybe I'll also have to do this. Maybe we'll go and get a two for one.

[Josh]

I would love to. I would like to do it preemptively. Listen, I'm 39, and I see my first colonoscopy on the horizon, and I can't wait.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, that sounds fun.

[Josh]

I'm excited.

[Ben]

I'm all in.

[Josh]

People should not fuck around with colorectal cancer, first off.

[Ben]

And definitely not. Not colorectal. No.

[Josh]

Brother, I'm down to. I'll get. Can I get multiple colonoscopies? You know what comes with a colonoscopy? Propofol. Heard of it? That milk of magnesium dog.

[Ben]

And they clear you out? No. Isn't it like a. They excavate you. It's great.

[Josh]

Yeah. And it's always fantastic.

[Ben]

I'm in.

[Josh]

And every doctor I know who's ever done the procedure is a badass Persian dude in his 60s. And he'll always say, like, I did not see any pull ups. And I'll be like, that's right. You know, I just want to make him proud. I want to make a guy named Faoud proud.

[Ben]

That's right.

[Olivia]

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Okay.

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[Josh]

But this Davis, she was fabulous. She just. And she did exactly what she said, which was, she got him on a good schedule. She basically, you know what it is? It's basically a coach telling you what is going on. Because as a parent, so much of your fears come from like, we wouldn't worry if we had the doctor living with us. Being like, don't Freak out about that cough or like. Right.

[Ben]

You just.

[Josh]

Most of the time, you just need reassurance, and that's what she's doing. So if, you know, they cry for 10 minutes or 15 minutes, and she goes, give it another 90 seconds. Right at the moment where you would have jumped up and said, I can't do this. I feel too bad. She'd be like, he's right there. And then 90 seconds later, he's out. And it was amazing. It was an amazing three days. I miss her already. It was just nice.

[Olivia]

So Meyer's back.

[Ben]

So Meyer's back.

[Josh]

What do you mean back? We didn't send him away.

[Ben]

No, you're. No, you're. You said that he had a regression.

[Olivia]

He's back.

[Ben]

Like, was he. Or was he never sleep trained?

[Josh]

Never official?

[Ben]

You know, he's here.

[Josh]

Like you.

[Ben]

He's here. Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, you talked about Reuben, like, how he would give you, like, you know, they start giving you five, six hour stretches where you're like, oh, my God, it's happening. And then suddenly they're up every two and a half hours. You're like, no, no, no, no, we can't. We can't go back.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

And so now he's.

[Ben]

No, we can't. We can't go back.

[Josh]

Yeah. This. He's like six. Six to six.

[Ben]

Oh, that's fantastic.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Oh, that's fantastic. Great. Yeah. Look, even if he can't afford a night nurse, okay, there are these sleep trainers that also do a great job have just having somebody consult with. I was even talking to a friend of mine. He's like, my daughter and I. What do I know? I have one kid who's definitely a better. Like, he's amazing, okay? Not because of something that we did. Like, maybe we did some of it, but just because of genetics. He's amazing. He sleeps. We're very lucky. I have friends. They're like, my same age. Won't sleep through the night. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, well, you know, she slept today. Like, she sleeps so great during the day. She took a nap from 12 to 5. I'm like, are you fucking out of your mind? You let her sleep from 12 to 5 during the day. How do you expect her to sleep from 12 to 5 at night if she's sleeping 12 to 5 during the day? So it's like the smallest little things that, like, if you just. If you have somebody to talk to, maybe that knows more than you, they'll tell you what. What should be obvious. Which is like, if they sleep too much during the day, they're not going to sleep at night. So they need to sleep less during the day. So they sleep more at night. The same way that if they slept less at night, they will sleep more during the day. But having somebody to talk to is really helpful. I wish I had like somebody to recommend, but I'm sure if you like Google sleep trainer or sleep guru or. Or Davis the magician.

[Josh]

Davis. And boy, has she worked with some real celebs.

[Ben]

And she is real talent.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. And she is tight lipped. And I was like, come on, come on.

[Ben]

Well, you know not to brag. When we were. When we were trying to flip Ruby because he was breached, we were doing mock Sebastian, which is burning these like incense at Claudia's feet. At first I was doing. And then we flew in this woman. I'm blanking on her name. But then all of a sudden we turned on Paul American and who was there doing moxibustion on Nina Dobrev.

[Olivia]

That's right.

[Josh]

That's right. Okay, not Nina Dobrev.

[Ben]

Buster of the. What's her name?

[Josh]

Nina something. Nina Dobrev's the actor from that vampire show.

[Ben]

What's the Nina? The other Nina.

[Josh]

I don't know. Nina, kick him in the leg when he gets out of the car. I don't know.

[Ben]

Nina Agdal. There you go.

I prefer Nina Dobrev.

[Josh]

Should we get to a speak pipe? Yeah, a moron.

Now.

All right, we'll do one and then we'll do a of you nuts. This one's from.

Somebody good, somebody really exciting. This one's. Do we want to just listen to a. More on mail.

[Ben]

Somebody good, somebody really exciting.

[Josh]

Here. This one's just a feel good one. It doesn't really lend itself to great conversation, but you got to hear it.

[Listener Caller]

Okay, guys, so I'm a PA in emergency department and I was admitting a patient for dk. So diabetic ketoacidosis is to the hospitalist. We're doing bedside report. And so we're talking about patients labs, and we talked about her elevated serum ketones, which are beta hydroxybutyrate. He goes, G. B.H. i my head. I'm like, B.H.

[Olivia]

B.H.

[Listener Caller]

And he looks at me like the. Are you so excited for bh? For I'm like, are you Jewish? Keep in mind I'm not. I'm an ally to all, but I'm not a Jew. And he again, he's like, what? I'm like, hashem, I didn't Know if you're like, good luck to that patient. He goes, no, I'm talking about her. Beta hydroxybutyrate.

[Josh]

What?

[Listener Caller]

What number is it? So, yeah. Anyways, love you guys.

[Ben]

Oh my God, that is amazing. That is so funny. Love you, God, dude. Love you so much. Honestly, Josh, BH, man. She's got God on the brain.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Because of us.

[Ben]

We're.

[Olivia]

We're.

[Ben]

We're in this podcast. We are. Yeah, we absolutely are. Wherever, whatever your religion is. Okay. He got Christ on the brain. Baruch hashem.

[Josh]

Elder Ben.

Can you.

[Ben]

Oh, that's so good. No, I can't believe that. That is amazing.

[Josh]

I agree.

[Ben]

That is amazing.

[Josh]

Wow. I could not agree more. Okay, this one's from Megan.

[G]

Hey, guys, I need your advice on a situation. My mother in law decided to not come to the baby shower for my fourth baby because she said I've been to three others and I don't need to go to this one, mind you. Yes, she was working, but she makes her own schedule and she could have moved her day around. No, she does not live far away. Maybe like 20, 25 minutes. And yes, she's super present and super involved in our lives and our kids lives and we love her very much. I was just so thrown off and so taken back by the fact that she did not come and made it seem like it was very nonchalant. I understand four babies is a lot. I understand four baby showers is a lot. But after my third, I threw everything away and got rid of everything because this baby was a surprise. So I had nothing. So my friends and family wanted to throw it for me and she just blatantly didn't come. And I truly feel like the fourth baby is. Is pretty neglected. And everybody just thinks it's crazy that we have four kids and we obviously think it's crazy too because we meant to stop at three. So I'm just wondering what you guys think about families having multiple babies or multiple baby showers or mother in laws and what all the things in general. Just let me know. Thanks. Love you guys.

[Josh]

Oof.

[Ben]

I'm sorry. I'm happy that you clarified that she lives 25 minutes away. This is a complete. What are your nuts on your mother like that? That's. Get in the car, lady. Okay. And go support your daughter who obviously is freaking out because she had an unplanned baby and needs your help.

[Josh]

I don't think it was unplanned.

[Ben]

That's what she said.

[Josh]

She did?

[Guest Olivia]

Yeah, she said they got rid of all of their stuff from the previous babies. And that was.

[Ben]

They got rid of all their stuff from the previous babies. They planned on stopping at three, and they had an unplanned fourth baby.

[Josh]

Oh, sorry.

[Ben]

So, like, this one, they.

[Josh]

Sorry.

[Ben]

This one, they. This one, they really needed, like a baby shower more than the others because they're looking forward to. To getting the stuff that they need for this fourth baby. And I'm sure the emotional support and all this stuff. The fact that you live. Your mother lives 25 minutes away. She obviously could have come if she.

[Olivia]

Lived a plane right away.

[Ben]

I would totally understand potentially giving you a call instead of flying in for your fourth. It's sad that the fourth means less.

[Olivia]

Than the first, but that's just the.

[Ben]

Reality of the situation. And yeah, so I definitely think the mother should have gone.

[Josh]

I'm a little on mom's side. Yeah, she lost me at four baby showers.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Josh]

I. Cause I do. Like. But why did you have two and three? Like, I understand, like a sprinkle, but not even real. Like, you definitely don't have a sec. You don't have a baby shower for number two. Sometimes you have one for like three or four if it's your last. Because it's, you know, it's kind of a refresh. But like, you're not technically decorum wise. And you guys can push back on me if you have a massive, beautiful blowout baby shower for your first, which you absolutely should. You kind of. Other than maybe a sprinkle, a little luncheon or something. You don't do multiple showers after that because the assumption is everyone was generous with you and you should be able to use that stuff for your next round of kids.

[Ben]

But she threw it all out.

[Josh]

Totally. But I'm saying, like, from the mother's perspective, like, if she's gone to the first three. And she is amazing in every. Right. If she was just like, I can't. And it's like, I don't want to be around you and your friends. You know, I get like. I just. Sometimes I get it with OG, like parents who are like in their 70s and they're like, you're going to have a nice thing with. And it's a lot for me. And she probably felt like, I don't think it's worth getting upset over, especially because she's saying how great the mother is in every other respect.

[Ben]

I hear that. I guess that.

If you are one who.

If you're just gonna have even a luncheon, I think the first person that you'd have the lunch with is your mom. So I don't know. I just, I. I hear you. But I do think that the least that the mother could do, just stop by for five minutes, say hi, like, you know, your daughter, your daughter's not getting upset out of nowhere. Like, you know the type of daughter that you have, I think. And you know, that maybe she. She relies heavily on you and needs you for emotional support. And you're her rock. It's her fourth baby. I don't know. I think the mom could have just sucked it up. But I do hear you that.

For people, not the mom, they don't need to come. With every child, you get less and less people showing up.

[Josh]

But.

I would almost push back. And this is me projecting. If I'm the mom, the grandmother, I would say, I would be thinking.

The shower is ceremony and it's.

I'm gonna be the one doing the grunt work, right? Like, I'm gonna be the one helping, doing like all the important, not cute shit. This is a three hour culmination of the cute shit. So if I miss the cute shit, give me a break. Cause I'm. All these friends who are here honoring you, they won't be here for the time that matters, and I will be. So give me a break.

[Olivia]

I hear that.

[Ben]

I do.

[Josh]

What do you think, Olivia? I think you're right.

[Ben]

Too bad here for both. I think you can be here for both. I think you can show up for five minutes and then you can be here for everything else. But I do hear you.

[Guest Olivia]

I think you both have, like, really good points about the situation. It's her mother in law, and it is like the fourth. And so it's like. I understand your point, Josh. Of, you know, she's going to be there doing the grunt work, but also if it's unexpected and she's not that far away and she could. It would probably mean a lot to just feel supported when you're kind of like in a transitional state and you've had another big life change that you weren't necessarily planning on. But at the same time, she's had like three of these. So I think it would depend on what the size, scope, scale of the other ones were too. So I don't really know.

[Listener Caller]

I don't know.

[Guest Olivia]

And I don't have kids, so I don't know if I'm super qualified to answer that.

[Ben]

But.

[Josh]

Interesting.

[Ben]

Interesting is right, Josh. Interesting is right.

[Josh]

Talked it out. You want to get to Woody nuts?

[Ben]

We've really talked it out, haven't we? Yes, we talked it out at nauseam. Our Woody and Nuts moment of the week is our gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever's sticking in your craw. I already told mine, Josh. Top of the show. Newman's ok. Paul Newman, he hit me in the neck. Tsa. Ok, this is no good. This is still my Woody and Nuts. I'm bringing it back up. How you can sneak a bottle of 16 ounces of salad dressing onto an airplane. And how the woman could just look at me casually and say, I'm sorry. Are you okay? Like, I don't know, man. Like, she should have. I don't know what she should have done. The whole thing is just such a Woody and nuts, it's insane. It's the definition of a Woody and nuts. Newman's hits you in the neck in flight.

[Josh]

Nuts.

[Ben]

That's nuts. Nuts.

[Josh]

My Woody Nuts is. As you know, and we just talked about it on this episode, I am a purveyor of all things in the Marriott family. I love a commuter hotel. Courtyard Marriott. My favorite is a Spring Hill Suites. But I will also do a Fairfield Innovation. And sometimes I even do a Residence Inn, which is where I stayed when I met you for our incredible vital proteins collab. Stayed at the JFK Residence Inn. Fabulous. Fabulous. Recently, I spoke at Oklahoma State University. And so I stayed by the airport at a Residence Inn because I was like, I need a kitchen.

I seated a residence in Oklahoma City by the airport. And let me just tell you. What am I nuts?

I, for the first time, felt unsafe.

It was just a breath, a whisper away from the freeway. It was not a good neighborhood. And I parked my car and I walked into the room and I said, josh, you played yourself. And I.

I put. All I'll say is this. I. I put multiple pieces of furniture in front of the door.

[Ben]

Wow, that's. That means that I would have shit my pants. That's scary. Okay. Because, Josh, you don't really get scared that easily. You're not. That. You're not a big scaredy cat. That means it must have been fucking scary.

[Josh]

It just was the time of night. And it was. I mean, it was beautiful. I mean, the person at the desk was lovely. It was clean. It was perfect. But I just. Yeah, I put the locks on, and then I put a bar stool because it's the Residence Inn. So there was a dinette area.

[Olivia]

I.

[Josh]

Then I added another barstool, and then I moved the nightstand.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Wow.

[Josh]

One of my.

[Ben]

What floor were you on?

[Josh]

Second.

[Ben]

Nuts.

[Josh]

Second.

[Ben]

I was scared I've only had. I've only had that once. I forget where I was but they, I was in a commuter hotel and they gave me a ground floor room and in that I was shitting my pants. I just was like, anybody can walk in and I'm the first person that they're going to stab. Like that is. Yeah, but nothing, nothing worse than that terrible night's sleep, I'm sure.

[Josh]

Oof.

[Ben]

Oof. All right, well, that's our show. That's our show. Give us five stars.

[Josh]

Otherwise.

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Listen to us wherever you at your podcast, watch us on YouTube, share our clips, Instagram and Tick tock Mondays and Thursdays, folks.

[Josh]

We will see you next time.

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