Chiropractor Rage Bait?!

Summary

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Good Guys — "Chiropractor Rage Bait?!"

Hosted by Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Release Date: September 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Good Guys” with Josh Peck and Ben Soffer is a lively, joke-packed conversation that bounces between wellness trends (from non-alcoholic beers to physical therapy), riffing on doctors who aren’t doctors, rage-bait aimed at chiropractors, and some surprisingly heartfelt takes on relationships and commitment. The hosts mix personal stories with irreverent commentary, making room for playful tangents on everything from Lady Gaga’s concert antics to the perils of adult summer camp. The tone is light and often tongue-in-cheek, but the duo also tackles real listener dilemmas about infidelity and friendship.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Functional Beverages & the Rise of Non-Alcoholic Fun

• Protein Snacks & Caution: Josh tells a story about eating a protein Rice Krispy treat that tasted suspiciously like weed, sparking a conversation about the prevalence of "functional" foods and drinks and dangers of accidentally consuming something intoxicating.

  “I feel like this protein Rice Krispies I just ate tasted like weed.” — Josh [00:26]

• Non-Alcoholic Beer Trends: Both hosts discuss experimenting with non-alcoholic beers, with Josh praising Asahi’s zero-calorie version and Ben contemplating launching a non-alcoholic flavor for his brand.

  "I have been mulling over like a Spritz Society non-alk flavor." — Ben [02:13]

Soda Talk & Jewish Soft Drink Heritage

• Ben shares his first experience with Diet Dr. Pepper and elevates it above Diet Coke standards, leading to a riff on doctor-themed soda names.

  “You fuck this soda, Josh. This medically created pharmaceutical Dr. Pepper is unbelievable.” — Ben [03:02]

• Josh brings up Dr. Brown’s Black Cherry soda as a Jewish cultural staple.

Doctor Parodies & Physical Therapy Appreciation

• On Doctors Who Aren’t Doctors: The hosts riff about brands using “doctor” in their names (Dr. Scholl’s, Dr. Pepper), with a nod to a Mitch Hedberg joke.
• Physical Therapy Journeys:
  • Ben shares his transformative first session at a boutique physical therapy office, encouraged by a fitness instructor friend and motivated by limited shoulder mobility.

    “I was standing up so straight...have I always been a hunchback?” — Ben [04:55]

  • Josh relays his own PT experience, appreciating the professionalism and the unique setting inside an ice rink.

    “The office I go to is in an ice rink. Hear me out…when I leave, I get that smell of ice and the Mighty Ducks.” — Josh [05:43]

Chiropractor Rage Bait & Skepticism

• Ben playfully insults chiropractors before backtracking, clarifying respect for "legit" practitioners while railing against those who portray themselves as neurologists.

  “I could have gone to a chiropractor, but they are fake losers. Chiropractor community – fuck you.” — Ben [08:11] “I just don't like it when the small percentage of chiropractors represent themselves falsely as functional neurologists…and act like they know more than they do.” — Josh [08:23]

Supplements vs. Pharmaceuticals: Dr. Mike’s Perspective

• Discussion of Dr. Mike’s YouTube content, especially on the supplement industry’s lack of oversight.

  “Supplements is a trillion dollar industry. They’re pushing profit as much as any other major company…all you have to prove is it won’t kill you.” — Josh [18:07]

• Ben shares his supplement routine (especially turmeric), describing personal benefits while acknowledging possible placebo effects.

  “I do think that [turmeric] had a direct effect on my nasal health, which has plagued me basically my whole life.” — Ben [21:48]

• Conversational detour into how weight-loss drugs like Ozempic change food preferences, and speculation about behavioral side-effects.

Parent Adventures & Traveling Transformations

• Ben’s parents’ Galapagos adventure becomes a vivid story, with playful speculation about senior swinger trips and commentary on travelers who claim to “find themselves” in exotic locations.

  “No, Eva and Bruce having the best time is the cutesy culmination of a lifetime. It makes me so happy. What I hate are people our age and younger who go on a trip like that and have their life changed…Save it. I can go to Bali, too.” — Josh [28:03]

• The hosts joke about the “transformation tourism” trope, expressing more appreciation for people who “find themselves” on less glamorous trips.

Listener Advice Segment: Cheating, Loyalty, and Friendship Dilemmas

• Two listener Speakpipe questions tackle discovering infidelity in a close friend’s engagement and how to navigate involvement.
  • Consensus: It’s not your responsibility if your friend knows about the cheating and chooses to go forward; if they don't know, you must tell them.

    “She knows. There’s nothing more you can do. Butt out. This is not your problem anymore.” — Ben [37:16]

• Extended reflection on why people stay in relationships after cheating, including pressure to not “waste” invested time, and the reality that couples can sometimes recover and become happier.

  “Because if it ends, she loses. I bet you that's how she thinks of it. It's like not only did he cheat, but then I also lost him and all this time.” — Josh [41:52]

Memorable Side Rants

• Lady Gaga Concert Woes: Ben’s “What Are You Nuts?” gripe targets the pop star’s endless song repeats while recording for TV, inconveniencing fans who arrived on time.

  “My wuddy 'n' utz is…she has no opener. Can you imagine the poor people that got there at 7:30, waited for her…listened to Abracadabra four times, only to have her then start her show at 9:30?” — Ben [47:07]

• Adult Summer Camp: Josh and Ben lightly roast the idea of adults reliving youth through "summer camps," though Olivia’s recap wins them over when she details sauna, pickleball, and cold plunges.

  “Everyone needs to grow up. My Woody Nuts is trying to recapture your youth. I didn’t even get a youth and I don’t want it back, okay?” — Josh [48:29]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Soda:
  “I have my PhD in soda.” — Josh [02:57]
• Chiropractor Zinger:
  “Chiropractor community—fuck you. No, I’m just kidding.” — Ben [08:13]
• On Supplements:
  “All you have to prove is it won't kill you. It doesn't have to prove that it's effective.” — Josh [18:07]
• On Infidelity and Staying Together:
  “If it ends, she loses…they’re very married, they have very many kids and they are very, very much together and happier than ever. And they moved on from this blemish.” — Josh [41:52]
• Gaga Gripe:
  “She was recording for the VMAs. This took 45 minutes…Can you imagine … waited for her to come on till 8:40, listened to Abracadabra four times only to have her then start her show at 9:30? I would kill myself. What are you nuts?” — Ben [47:09]
• Turtle Life Philosophy:
  “I just want to be in my shell. I don’t need the world. I just want to live long and be left alone.” — Josh [27:09]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Non-Alcoholic Beer & Functional Drinks: [01:19-02:36]
• Diet Dr. Pepper Revelation: [02:39-03:31]
• Physical Therapy Deep Dive: [04:47-08:45]
• Chiropractor Rage-Bait: [08:11-08:45]
• Dr. Mike, Supplements & Skepticism: [16:16-22:28]
• Weight Loss Medication & Food Preferences: [22:28-23:42]
• Galapagos Adventure & "Transformation" Trips: [25:04-29:41]
• Listener Cheating Dilemmas: [36:08-42:30]
• Lady Gaga Concert Gripe: [46:00-47:46]
• Adult Summer Camp Roast: [48:26-49:21]

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Episode Tone & Style

Irreverent, quick-witted, packed with friendly jabs, and always looping back to wry existential observations. Both hosts mix old-school Jewish humor with modern skepticism of wellness trends. The show relies heavily on vivid storytelling, callbacks, and shared cultural references, providing an equal mix of laughs and curious wisdom for fans and newcomers.

Transcript

[Josh]

The following podcast is a dear media production. Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the Good Guys. A mother's dream Premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys. And if you don't give us five stars. What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of the good guys. Mazda Morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm worried that I just dose myself because I feel like this protein Rice Krispies I just ate tasted like weed.

[Ben]

Did I just have a slip on the podcast?

[Josh]

No, there's no weed in here. Right. Is this the podcast owner's company? The studio? It's his brother. Delicious. Fabulous. Very good. But I just, I was like, you know when you taste hemp?

[Ben]

Yeah, you, you do. You do need to be.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm like, you can't just have these out if there's like drugs in them.

[Ben]

You need to be careful. I've never thought about that. With all of these functional beverages, Josh, you got to be careful. You could pick up what you think is a seltzer, all of a sudden it is weed. I'm usually weed.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Drinks, they're everywhere.

[Josh]

I'm usually pretty careful. But I will admit I have been having fun, fun, fun with non alcoholic beers, which I never, ever drank in my whole life. But recently I've been like, which one?

[Ben]

Athletic Brewing. That's the big one.

[Josh]

Athletic Brewing is okay. I really like. There's a, you know, what's the Japanese brand? Asahi. Yes, Asahi makes a dry one. First of all, calorie free. Zero calories. Zero calories. That one is delish. I get that from my local Japanese market, Mitsuha. But I fucks with. Yeah, I fucks with them. A Heineken Zero.

[Ben]

Sure. Zero. I love that they can do 0.0. There's something strong about that, you know, not just Heineken. Zero, double zero. It's fantastic. It's like really bad about goalie. Goalie with a double zero as opposed to just like a zero. There's something very strong about the double zero. Don't tell anybody except for all of our listeners, but I have been mulling over like a spritz society non alk flavor because I think it would just be like, interesting. And if you don't drink, you can have it. And if you do drink, it's perfect for mixing with alcohol. So who knows? I guess it's really just a mixer. But I've Definitely been mulling that over. Speaking of drinks, have you ever had a diet Dr. Pepper?

[Josh]

Have I? Sure. I've lived. Yeah. I lived.

[Ben]

I had never lived until last week. I had my first diet Dr. Pepper of my whole life last week.

[Josh]

He's our sheltered king.

[Ben]

And I want you to. And I want you to know this might be better than Diet Coke.

[Josh]

Yeah. He's got a degree in soda. This. He has his PhD in soda.

[Ben]

You fuck this soda. Josh. This medically created pharmaceutical Dr. Pepper is unbelievable. And everybody said you haven't lived till you've tried Dr. Pepper. Zero. It's much better than diet Dr. Pepper. And all I have to say is, I'm having Fun with Diet Dr. Pepper. Why do you have to be like that? Like, maybe it can't. Can't both be good. But yeah, Dr. Pepper, he's amazing.

[Josh]

You know, arguably the best. I think diet. Diet soda is Dr. Brown's. Sure. Fine Black Cherry, especially for the Jews, by the way.

[Ben]

They're all doctors.

[Josh]

Yeah. Why is that?

[Ben]

I don't know. They couldn't be less doctors make soft drinks. Why are you Dr. Dr. Brown's Dr. Pepper?

[Josh]

Have you heard Mitch Hedberg's bit about, like. I like. I like Mr. Pip because it tastes like Dr. Pepper and dude didn't even get his degree.

[Ben]

I haven't heard that. But that's amazing.

[Josh]

He also has one about, like, Dr. Scholl's makes cushions for your shoes. But you don't have to be a doctor to know that cushions in your shoes will feel good.

[Ben]

I love an insert. You wear a Dr. Scholl's insert. I don't, but I. When I have before, I've loved them. It's great to have cushion for your feet.

[Josh]

I'm such a Jew, bro. I. I wear orthotics.

[Ben]

Wow. I love that for you. Good for you.

[Josh]

And it gives me an inch.

[Ben]

So you're trying to cure your flat feet. You're not just, like, living with it? I'm living with it. I'm flat.

[Josh]

There's no cure, though, right? Because, like, I can't, like, change my anatomy like it is. It's set in stone.

[Ben]

I don't know, Josh. That's not what my new physical therapist has told me. That's not. Josh. I'm changing my anatomy.

[Josh]

Really?

[Ben]

I am.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Ben]

I let. I left Josh. I want you to know I was standing up so straight that I literally, I was like, have I always been a hunchback? Do I walk hunched? And apparently I do. I was standing so Fucking straight. And what this person did to my hips, My goodness. Like, I. It was only one session. I immediately booked another four. I love it. I love it. You're a PT guy.

[Josh]

Big PT Guy.

[Ben]

Big PT Barnum.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

Circus guy. Big time circus. Yeah. DC btc.

[Josh]

I love. I love physical therapy. I walk out of there, I feel. I go to a physical therapy office. The office I go to is in an ice rink. Hear me out.

[Ben]

Wow.

[Josh]

So when I leave, I. I get that smell of ice and the Mighty Ducks and.

[Ben]

Love it, love it.

[Josh]

It's so. I just feel. I feel like a new man.

[Ben]

Does it make it. Does it make you bitter? Because you should have been in that movie.

[Josh]

I was too young. I missed.

[Ben]

We discussed this though. You should have been in that fucking movie.

[Josh]

I should have been. Every great kids movie. Young. I mean, I think the first one maybe was seven or six or seven.

[Ben]

Perfect. You could have been in it. You didn't have to have a huge role. You could have been in it. Damn.

[Josh]

Those movies mean a lot to me.

[Ben]

They're amazing. Imagine you as Charlie Conway. It was you. It was you, Josh. It was you.

[Josh]

What now? Your physical therapy, was it. Do you have a prescription for a doctor from a doctor? No.

[Ben]

So I went to this amazing place called Mio My O. It's in the city and it is. Again, I haven't been to other physical therapists offices, but you walk in and it's. It's just amazing. You get matched with a. A professional and they give you an assessment and based on your range of motion and what you're trying to do. Again, I don't have an injury. So I'm sure if you went in there with an injury, it could be covered by insurance and they would be rehabbing something specific. I literally went in because our friend Hillary from the Soto Method, I did a class with her and Claudia, she looked at me, she's like, your arms don't go more back than this, so you need to go to PT yesterday. So she embarrassed me into pt and I love her for that. And I immediately went to PT to try to get my arms to go back because I don't know if you know this. The reason why I don't do. What is this called? Where you put the barbell behind your head?

[Josh]

A squat.

[Ben]

Oh, well, you could do a squat without that though, right? Like, is there not. Is this not called something?

[Josh]

You wouldn't do it from the back, you would do it from the front. A strict press, A military press.

[Ben]

Ok. So the only time that you'd put the bar behind your head is if you were using it to do a.

[Josh]

Squat or something called Good mornings. But yeah, traditionally you're doing a back squat.

[Ben]

Whatever. If I was to try to put the bar behind my head, it would hit me in the head.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

I can't get my arms to go back enough to put the bar back there. So that's what we're working on. This range of motion. Getting my arms back, Josh. Opening up my chest, opening up my hips. Yeah. No prescription. The goal is to have me give me proper alignment. I guess I could have gone to a chiropractor, but they are fake losers. Chiropractor community. Fuck you.

[Josh]

Okay, stop.

[Ben]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Josh]

I've had so many of them reach out.

[Ben]

I know, I know.

[Josh]

That's why I did after my clip.

[Ben]

I'm just rage baiting you there.

[Josh]

Just good chiropractors. There's a guy I've gone to in the past named Dr. Greg in Studio City. Fabulous Dr. Greg. Shout out. RIP Bob Saget, dear friend. But I just don't like it when the small percentage of chiropractors represent themselves falsely as functional neurologists.

[Ben]

Totally.

[Josh]

And wear a white coat and act like they know more than they do.

[Ben]

But nothing wrong with the general chiropractic community. Okay. Nothing wrong. Shout out. But yeah. So this. I only went once. I go again this week. And I'll keep you posted. I'll keep you posted.

[Josh]

I guess it's a net positive no matter what. I get a little nervous about the fuckery of going without a prescription because I only know of it from like you go to your, you know, get it from your GP and you go in, you tell them what's going on. You don't need to necessarily have. I mean you could go to your internist, I guess it's an extra annoying step.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And say I have bad shoulder pain from my lack of mobility and they'd be like great. Let me. You know, as long as you're not asking for Norco.

[Ben]

But like I don't have pain though, Josh. That's the thing. But you could just say you do.

[Josh]

How do you think I get my consent?

[Ben]

I could. I could.

[Josh]

Cause then like where I go, I'm being worked out by a lovely 35 year old doctor of physical therapy. Right. Like.

[Ben]

Understood. Understood.

[Josh]

And I just feel like they're. And the reason I. It's in an ice skating rink is because it's part of the Kings facility. The LA Kings hockey team.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

But they just really feel like they know what's up. Like when they. They're that educated.

[Ben]

Yeah. I feel again, I went once. I do plan on going back. I think that the same way that you have your. What are they called? Like, we previously would only go to a doctor, but now if you need something, you'll go to a nurse practitioner.

[Josh]

Yeah, like one of physician assistant care.

[Ben]

Yeah, like one of these. They're not like ERs. What are they called?

[Josh]

Urgent care.

[Ben]

Urgent care, thank you. That's the word that I was looking for. Urgent care. Kind of feels like that's what this is. This is the urgent care of pt. And all that I know is that I had a wonderful experience. I had a wonderful experience and I felt much better. And the things are very basic. Like they. They did stretches with me. It was some assisted stretching. It was. I can't call it a massage because it hurts so fucking much. Like, they would, like, dig in and move things and then all of a sudden I would have more range of motion. So, yeah, I greatly enjoyed it. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Bilt Rewards. Folks. If you're paying rent every month without earning anything in return, let me introduce you to bilt, the rewards program designed for re who want to earn something for their largest monthly expense. It should be you. Let me explain. 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[Josh]

Well, it's funny because I really enjoy the Dr. Mike guy on YouTube. There's two Dr. Mike's that we both love. There's Dr. Mike Israel, who's my little fitness PhD genius, who I love, who's clearly on a boatload of steroids and.

[Ben]

I'm here for it. He's cool. He's the big baldy that you've sent me before that I've listened to.

[Josh]

Nice Ashkenazi Jew who's absolutely ripped to the gills. Could you imagine him?

[Ben]

Yeah. Did you shake his head?

[Josh]

Can you imagine him and Hitler alone in a room? You know, Israel tell would fuck him up.

[Ben]

He would destroy him. Like, you're such a badass if you shave your head just because you want to. You know, he has a beautiful. He probably could have a beautiful head of hair. Josh. He shaves it. Fucking intimidating. And it's badass. It's like a seal. Not like a, like both. Like a regular SEAL and a Navy seal. I want to get back to the seals. Because my parents were in the Galapagos and my mom sent me 250 pictures of her in seals. Every day I got. Every day I got 10 pictures of her in a seal.

[Josh]

Oh, great.

[Ben]

Come back to it, though. We'll come back to it.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Ben]

Is your tell. And who's the other Mike?

[Josh]

There's this guy, Dr. Mike, and he's on YouTube and I really enjoy him and his clips are excellent. He was actually going to come on the pod and then they were like, well, his assistant or someone was like, well, will you go on his podcast? And I was like, yeah, I would love to. And he was like, yeah, like. And can you talk about, like, being a child star in Hollywood and also your weight loss? I was like, oh, I don't want to talk about either of those things. And we never heard back from Dr. Mike.

[Ben]

Can you come on and bare your soul? Yeah.

[Josh]

It's like, can I move on, please?

[Ben]

Yes, yes, yes. Let the man move on. Let him move on. Let him move on. Okay. Let him move on. It's enough.

[Josh]

But you know, Dr. Mike was saying in this clip, he said, you know people, you know, no one on this podcast, but have just started to assume or connect supplements with healthy and safe and pharmaceuticals with unhealthy and not safe, which of course, both of these things have both sides of the coin. He's like, the only difference is, is that supplements is a trillion dollar industry, right? So it's as profit motivated as pharmaceuticals now. So there's no safety in that side of things. They're pushing profit as much as any other major company. They're like. And at the very least, he's like, if a supplement is bad, it has to really hurt someone. And then and only then will there be any oversight. Otherwise all you have to prove is it won't kill you. It doesn't have to prove that it's effective, and it certainly doesn't have to prove that it might not have super adverse side effects. Whereas he's like, pharmaceuticals, there is a majorly negative side, he said, but there is oversight. There is an fda. They are working to make them as safe as possible.

[Ben]

What do you think that makes sense? I would say that as a responsible supplement user, I've heard and I've seen this more and more. I wonder if somebody's after big turmeric, Josh, because I've seen a lot of stories recently of people, liver damage and all of this stuff. And it turns out I read a story, this woman, I think Claudia, sent it to me. She's like, hey, watch out. This woman took 10 times the recommended dose of turmeric. She was taking 20,000 milligrams of turmeric, Josh. I take 500 milligrams of turmeric. The range is 500 to 2,000. Just taking 20,000. If you took 10 times the recommended dose of any pharmaceutical, you would die. Ok, like liver damage, certainly. But if you're taking. What did you say before? Let's say it's oxy. You didn't say that, but let's say it's oxy. You take 10 times the amount of oxygen, you're gonna have some problems.

[Josh]

You got me.

[Ben]

And you're gonna have some fun and you're gonna have me.

[Josh]

Season four of Drake and Josh Drake. Where's the door hole?

[Ben]

Clip it.

[Josh]

Your childhoods, kids.

[Ben]

Yeah, you gotta go on that guy Mike's podcast. You're ready to talk about it. I'm doing it here.

[Josh]

He's not getting the clip. 15 million followers on YouTube. Our clips suck. Yeah.

[Ben]

Thousand percent. We need big clips, big time clips. Big clips.

[Josh]

Clip energy.

[Ben]

Yeah, I look, I love joking about it because I think it's funny, but just so everybody knows and nobody takes what I am saying and does something differently when I say I'm on lion's mane. I took lion's mane like twice, which is not even like the way that you should do it, but I find it fun and funny. And the Ben Safra Longevity Institute of Technology is going to be a real thing one day, like ITT Tech. We're going to run local commercials and yeah, I think turmeric, especially now what I'm taking is turmeric activated black pepper. And there's like a couple other things in it. I feel much better than I used to feel. I definitely think that it reduces my inflammation, even if it's just a little as like a big fat man. I've always felt sluggish. And whether or not it's the turmeric, maybe it's a placebo. I feel really good. I feel really good. I also credit an AG one. I think it's great. Or if you wanted to take a grunt.

[Josh]

I think it's a mounjaro.

[Ben]

No, because I took. I've been on. I've been on Ozempic or Tirzepatide without turmeric. And I do find that the turmeric does two things for me. The most importantly, it reduces inflammation in my sinuses. I am like a chronic sinusitis guy. And since I started taking turmeric and black pepper. I 1000% have less sinus headaches. So whether it's reducing the inflammation in my knees, that's probably just being less fat. But I do think that it's had a direct effect on my nasal health, which has plagued me basically my whole life.

[Josh]

Because what Dr. Dubrow said in the longevity aspect of something like tirzepatide is that sugar causes inflammation. So this idea that you have something running through your system that's literally pulling sugar out of your diet naturally will have a holistic. It's not just less inflammation because you're lighter, but less inflammation in your body because you aren't digesting the sugar. That maybe you're still intaking some, as we all do.

[Ben]

Yeah. But I also would say I'm eating. I think it's also the effects of a tirzepatide and Ozempic. Your preferences change. Like, I don't want candy the way that I once wanted candy. Even if I'm hungry, I'm not running to candy. I'll run to, like, a piece of cake or some ice cream. But the candy of itself, like, I used to. I don't know, I could put down 10 bags of Nerds ropes or the gummy cluster, and I just don't want that anymore. There's also, like, certain cheeses, weirdly, like, a really cheesy pizza. I don't like it. I like less cheese on my pizza. Another preference, Josh. I don't know what it is, but. So I'm probably having just less sugar. I'm having less sugar.

[Josh]

Okay, tell me this. Let's play Sophie's Choice here, right? Okay.

[Ben]

You said, I love that game. Where is she? Yes.

[Josh]

You say it changes your tastes, right? So let's say yes. Mounjaro had all the positive effects that it does in weight loss and health, but it made you super attracted to dudes, right? You didn't. You don't have to act on it if you don't want, but you look at, you see Zac Efron and his brother, and you get. You get hot. You get juiced up, my boy.

[Ben]

So you're telling me there's no difference between my life now and my life? I think Manjar is doing that to me now.

[Josh]

I'm talking like, I'm talking. You're in the locker room of Equinox.

[Ben]

You're telling me I want to stick my pecker somewhere it doesn't normally want to get stuck?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

Okay. Out attracted.

[Josh]

You don't have to act on it. You're just.

[Ben]

Oh, no, no, no. I couldn't. I couldn't continue to do this podcast. What? We're going to sit here, and the whole time we'll be thinking how I want to rail you in the. Turn this off, Mom. Turn it off.

[Josh]

Can we get to Ava and the seals? You've taken this too far. Even the seal sounds like a band. They're opening for Oasis at the Rose Bowl.

[Ben]

It does. Even the seals? Yeah. They took five flights and they went to the Galapagos.

[Josh]

Was this, like, a bucket list thing, something they've always wanted to do?

[Ben]

I think. I think it. My mom's very adventurous. She just, like, wants to. And she's super fit, thank God. Like, wants to run up Mount Everest. And she has my dad who's, like, limping with his cane that she's, like, dragging. Dragging up Everest. But he went to the Galapagos. He was there. They went with a couple, and they had a wonderful time. This is like an organized trip. It's not like. Like, they. They didn't have to do. Do anything. They, like, booked it. There were, like, other people on the trip. Might have been a swingers trip. I don't know. And I can imagine. No, I can't imagine. But, like, I honestly. If they were swinging, which they're not, I don't think I'm happy for them. I'm happy.

[Josh]

Are you?

[Ben]

As long as they're happy. Swear to God, if that was actually happening, which I don't think that it is, I'm happy for them. It absolutely would not bother me. That said, that's probably because I know that it's not happening. Galapagos, the seals. She's. She takes pictures. She's next to monkeys, Josh.

[Josh]

She.

[Ben]

She took a picture. I'll send it to you in front of a tortoise or a turtle. It is six feet long. It was bigger than her, like, and they just are there swimming, they said, and they're like, hundreds of years old. The guy there, I don't know how he knows this. He said, by the way, Darwin's turtle was here. He just passed. How the hell do you know that? It's a really cool story if it's true. But how do they know it's Darwin's turtle? Regardless, turtles can live two, 300 years, and these things are huge. Six feet, Josh, you could ride the turtle.

[Josh]

Because they do nothing. They're very lazy. Of course, they live two or 300 years.

[Ben]

They're like a bunch of people. Can you imagine the resting heart rate of a Turtle goals? Yeah, literally, I kind of am a turtle.

[Josh]

Like, I want.

[Ben]

You know, I walk too much. What do you mean? You're like a. You're not a turtle. You're the hare, the tortoise and the hare. You're the hare.

[Josh]

I'm no hare. You walk a lot. I'm a tortoise. I want to be. You know what? I just want to be in my shell. I don't need the world. I just want to live long and be left alone.

[Ben]

It's kind of interesting. You're both a tortoise and a hare, Right? I know both. You're very complex. So, yeah, they. The turtles, the seals, the monkeys, they were just in the rainforest. Like, they were there and crushed it and came back, and there's no better feeling. I can't remember the last time I had a feeling like this. Where you come back from a vacation? I guess I haven't been on an adventurous vacation like this in a very long time, if ever. And, like, your entire perspective has changed. Like, they had the best time. The best. Isn't that amazing? 12 days. After 12 days, anywhere I could find something to complain about. They really had the best time.

[Josh]

No. Eva and Bruce having the best time is the cutesy culmination of a lifetime. It makes me so happy. What I hate are people our age and younger who go on a trip like that and have their life changed. Because I want to be like, save it. I can go to Bali, too.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Oh, you're so different now. Like, take me back. Go back.

[Ben]

Go.

[Josh]

We don't need you here. No, go sit behind a fucking laptop and do a spreadsheet. Shut up. Go drink.

[Ben]

Go.

[Josh]

What are you gonna. You gonna live that way forever? Oh, I'm off the grid. You're on. There's a grid. Okay.

[Ben]

Honestly, I feel like. Honestly, I'm so lucky that I married my wife because she wouldn't put up with any of this bullshit of going to Bali and being transformed. But if I married somebody who wanted that, Josh, that would be me. The way that I hear about a supplement and I try it, I'll try anything. The things that I would be trying, I don't want to try those things.

[Josh]

If you found the new you in Costa Rica, that one sucks.

[Ben]

Agreed.

[Josh]

You know, like, there's no you there, no shade on Coach Strica. It looks fantastic, but it's like, I want someone to be like, you know what? I went to Bakersfield and I found the new me. That guy I want to meet 100%.

[Ben]

Just because you Went to a beautiful beach. Okay. Everybody feels great on a beach.

[Josh]

Go find yourself in Milwaukee.

[Ben]

Yes, totally. Totally in Dayton.

[Josh]

Olivia's a good set. What would we find in Dayton, Olivia?

[Olivia]

A stinky river. The air. Or. I think it's. The Air Force Museum is up there, though, so they have a lot of, like, the old planes. I think the bicycle was invented somewhere around there.

[Ben]

Sure.

[Olivia]

Playing the Right.

[Josh]

Sure it was.

[Ben]

Yeah, sure, it was.

[Olivia]

Invented the airplane in Dayton, but they flew it in Kitty Hawk, so.

[Josh]

Kitty, North Carolina.

[Olivia]

They get the credit.

[Ben]

We're crediting the. We're crediting the bicycle to Dayton, are we? It's a tremendous discovery. I'm not willing to give it to them. No, absolutely not. Okay. No, I dispute that. No, I'll give them the plane. I'll give them the plane.

[Josh]

Yeah. Some things can't. Like, did you hear they invented the computer in Livingston?

[Ben]

No, they didn't. Okay. No, I refuse it. I refuse it. There you go. I knew it. I knew it.

[Josh]

Of course, wasn't created in Livingston, New Jersey.

[Ben]

No, I was talking about the bicycle in Dayton. Oh. Oh, yeah. No, it was. The bicycle was probably invented in Sweden. They love a bike, right?

[Josh]

No, I don't know. She said Dayton. Oh, lying to us.

[Ben]

No, I think that she just heard. This is. This is classic Ohio folklore. She was told at a young age.

[Olivia]

You know, I was told at a young age. I was told at a young age. I don't know if there's a bicycle museum or if the bikes were the Air Force museum, but that cover my head.

[Ben]

It's like quicksand. You know, you're told at a young age, be wary. And then you grow up and you realize you don't have to be wary.

[Josh]

What about stopping and dropping and rolling? I've never had to do that.

[Ben]

No. Never. Never, ever, ever. Yeah.

[Josh]

But, like, I kind of want to put it to the test.

[Ben]

Same stop, drop and roll. Do it. I want to see it. Is do it now. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at By Heart. Folks, By Heart is an infant nutrition company built from the ground up to deliver real innovation on behalf of babies and parents. Their mission is simple. Make the best formula in the world. Folks, if I could tell myself something. If I could tell myself something for week one. Okay? Week one. As a parent, I could go back in time and really talk to that young man. Even though it's only been four months, if I could talk to that young man, what I would say is, don't be so worried. About the amount of sleep that you're going to get. Historically, I've needed eight, nine, ten hours. I'm like a grizzly bear. I want to go to sleep and I want to sleep forever. Not really forever because then I'd be dead. But you understand. And when I was getting ready to become a dad, I was so nervous because people honestly made me nervous.

[Josh]

That's what.

[Ben]

Are you nuts? Everybody needs to stop scaring parents, okay? They'll figure it out. We don't need your fear mongering. But everybody would say, prepare to never sleep again. Okay, Chuck. Okay. Okay, Charles. I don't even know what Chuck. Okay, Charles. I don't even know a Charles, but okay, Dave. I think I know a Dave. Like, stop scaring me. What's the point? Don't scare new parents yet. You're not going to sleep as much as you used to. But let me tell you something. And this is what I would tell myself. This is what I go back and tell my one week. When my son was one week old. This is what I would tell myself. I would tell him that you are going to be shocked at how well you can function on so little sleep. Sure, I was waking up once every two hours, once every 90 minutes. It's fine. It's literally, it's. It's a moment in time. It will pass. But you have no idea how resilient your body is. It's almost like your body understands that you're getting less sleep and that you can't get more sleep and you're running on adrenaline and it just works better. It's just efficient. And then your son is going to give you one beautiful night, full night through, sleeping through the night. And all of a sudden you're going to be completely recharged. And then you're going to get tired from sleeping more when you were less tired when sleeping less. It doesn't make any sense. But don't be scared. That's what I tell myself. There's nothing to be afraid of. And honestly, fear, you know, you make it so big in your head all of a sudden it's such a daunting thing. And honestly, don't be scared. If you haven't had a child, don't be scared of the sleep thing. You'll figure it out one day you'll sleep more. Honestly, you're probably sleeping two months, eight, nine, ten hours. I didn't need that. What are you nuts? I was losing daylight. No, I needed more hours in my day. And my son has allowed me to do that so that's exactly what I would tell myself. And folks I mentioned this episode was brought to you by by heart. And by heart is the formula that answers. By heart gets your questioning. Especially when it comes to feeding your baby. Which is why they make one infant formula that cuts through the clutter. One infant formula made by pediatricians and parents just like you. One backed by a groundbreaking clinical trial and breast milk science. And one built for babies, brains, bellies and beyond. Bihart can't end every spiral, but when it comes to feeding, they can simplify a big one. You'll question everything except this. The formula that answers. Curious about BuyHeart? Head to byheart.com spelled b y h e a r t dot com and use code goodguys30 to save 30% off your first subscription order for a limited time. That's B y H E a R t Buy Hart. It's also available at Target, Walmart and major retailers nationwide. Check them out in stores today. Additional terms and conditions apply.

[Olivia]

I realize the bicycle conflation that I made is that there is the American Bicycle Music Museum in Dayton and it was a primary manufacturer for bicycles and Huffy is based there, so.

[Ben]

And where. And where was the bicycle invented?

[Olivia]

The bicycle was invented. I hate to break it to you, in Germany, but 1817.

[Ben]

So it was invented by Jews.

[Josh]

So the Nazis invented Fanta and bicycles.

[Ben]

Yeah, and. And every incredible car. Honestly, beautiful cars, they only have. They only have one big bad thing on their record, but besides that, Germany rocks.

[Josh]

Hugo Boss. Mercedes Benz. Berkow. No, I'm kidding.

[Ben]

I'm kidding. BMW. Auschwitz.

[Josh]

That's fucked. Should we listen to a speak pipe?

[Ben]

I would love to.

[Josh]

Okay, if you want to get advice, go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity is key. Here's one from Top secret.

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Good guys, I need your advice. So my best friend just got engaged about a month ago and I'm her maid of honor. But here's the twist. Her fiance slept with someone else in a drunken hookup and confessed to her like four days later. I have so many questions, but she's still moving forward with the wedding and we're even going dress shopping soon. As her best friend, I'm stuck between being excited for her and screaming, what are you nuts? What do I do? Just smile and support or say something?

[Ben]

She knows, right? Did I miss something that she doesn't know?

[Josh]

She knows she doesn't know. She told the boyfriend that he had a week to tell her.

[Ben]

Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh my God. Okay, I Missed.

[Josh]

No, no, I missed a different one.

[Olivia]

Yeah, No, I think she said he told her four days after. After it happened.

[Josh]

Yes. Yes.

[Olivia]

So he confessed to it.

[Josh]

Got it.

[Olivia]

Okay. Yeah. Nick. Nick seconds that.

[Ben]

Okay, so I'm right. So he knows.

[Olivia]

Yes, she knows.

[Ben]

Yeah, she knows. There's nothing more you can do. Yeah, she knows. She knows. Like, butt out. This is not your problem anymore. If she didn't know, you must tell her before she marries somebody. That's a cheating skank. Guys can be skanks, by the way. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think that this is on you anymore. I think that she probably feels, sadly, that she's put in far too much time with this person to. To retreat, which is just a very sad reality. I think of, like, a lot of. A lot of people, in general, there's such pressure to get married. By a certain age, you end up just settling with somebody because you have this. Like, for women, it's very real, a biological clock. But in general, like, you're waiting for your life to start, and it's like, I get that. But obviously don't do it with a cheating scoundrel. Like, find somebody else. Find somebody that you don't love so much, but that isn't an asshole. Like, I'd rather you settle for somebody less terrible. What do you think?

[Josh]

Yeah, a lot of people accept cheating. It's. Yeah, my wife wouldn't, and neither would I. But, yeah, it happens. People just. They're desperate, and sometimes it doesn't rock their bottom line.

[Ben]

Why do you think people are cool with cheating if they're. If they're, like. If the way that they approach. I understand if somebody's, like, not a thousand percent monogamous, maybe they, like, their relationship is flirty or swingy or whatever it is. But thinking about traditional monogamy, they went into this together as one unit with the goal of only having eyes for each other forever. Somebody cheats and it ends up not being a big deal. Why?

[Olivia]

I do have a thought here. I think that a lot of it depends on, like, the circumstance. Just from, like, some situations that my friends have had. It seems like, at least in this instance, he was not in his right mind, per her message and also, like, admitted it fairly shortly after. But also, like, you're committing to spend the rest of your life with somebody. I don't. I mean, I. That would just. I can't even imagine being put in that position. But that being said, like, I think for some people, it's like, if the partner that cheated gives them the space to be able to process and really wants to do the work and try to earn their trust back. I think sometimes people can come out from that stronger, but it has to be a never again. Like, never, ever, ever cross that line ever again. One of my girlfriends in particular had something happen, and that was kind of the line that she said. And he was, I will admit, like, good about, at least in the aftermath, being honest and, you know, like, giving her the space that she needed to be able to process it and, like, decide on her terms whether or not she wanted to stay in the relationship. But I can't imagine, like, trying to go through that when you have the pressure of, like, a massive event and committing your life to somebody. Like, this was a boyfriend, girlfriend situation, but this is, like, just good luck. That's tough. That's so tough.

[Josh]

Yeah. I think committing to someone is hard, and it's one of those things where if you truly stick to it, like, all hard things in life, you're just better for it. I mean, it sounds overly simplistic, but I think that's the best thing that comes out of monogamy, like, through trial and tribulation and not walking away in moments or not finding some outsourced or out. You know, a lot of people run to be adrenalized, right? Like, I'm gonna go eat something bad. I'm gonna have a smoke. I'm gonna hit my vape. Like, it's just adrenaline. It's just, like, I'm overwhelmed. I want something. I need my dopamine to fire right now so I can have a mini escape, right? And a lot of times when relationships are hard, people will go find that escape through chi because they're not willing to face the challenge of committing to someone and walking through those hard times. So I see that, and, yeah, it's amazing. But I do find, like, I had a friend who they had been dating for years, and then it came out like, that he was, like, a serial cheater. Like, for a year and a half. He just cheat, like, four or five different girls. One of the girls reached out to the. To his girlfriend, who was, like, the best. We love her. And I remember my wife going, like, she's gonna leave him. I said, no, she's not. I was like, because she's put in so much time. And I was like, and he's in every other part of his life, is a good dude, but, like, had this incredibly dark, wild blind spot of, like, his 20s. And I was like, I Bet you there is. Because if it ends, she loses. I bet you that's how she thinks of it. It's like not only did he cheat, but then I also lost him in all this time. And they're very married, they have very many kids and they are very, very much together and happier than ever. And they moved on from this blemish.

[Olivia]

That sounds like a pretty big blemish.

[Josh]

It's hard.

[Ben]

Yeah. No, but it's what I said in the beginning, which I completely agree with you, Josh. There is. It's a very sad reality where people feel that they've put in too time and they don't want to lose. They feel like they lost all that time and like it just. I've. I've. I have a similar. I know somebody who did something similar and they are incredibly happy with a ton of kids and this person's reformed, so maybe it's possible. I don't know why it's always to literally the best girl, though.

[Josh]

It's the best girl.

[Ben]

Why is it always to the best girl? Because the best girl.

[Josh]

Idiot losers.

[Ben]

I know, but it's so funny. It's like, why does the best girl put up with that shit?

[Josh]

Because men are like this.

[Ben]

Did this thing and women this thing in some. And women love it and why do they love it? They love it. They love that dumbass.

[Josh]

If you stay with a cheater, ladies, you have full permission to microdose his coffee every morning with Dukalax. Give him the shit. Do we have a Dukalax sponsorship? They inquire.

[Ben]

I love that you. I love that you added in a U. It's Ducalax and Doodyx. Dukalax, Doodylax, Doodylax, Dukilax. By the way, I love Dokalax. Okay? I love it. Love, love, love, love, love.

[Josh]

Well, funny, because we actually, I think I got one confused. This is another sweet pipe in a similar vein.

[Top secret (Caller)]

Hey, good guys. Okay, my friend has been dating her fiance for a long time, like three or four years. And oh, I found him on a dating app because we all live in the same town. I texted him a screenshot of it and I said, you have a week to tell my friend or else I'm a teller. Well, how do. What do I do? Like, I don't know if he told her. I'm like, I can't ask her if he told her or else she'll know that I know. But I wanted to give him a chance to come clean before I told her. What would you do first?

[Ben]

And Foremost, I love your accent. I wish I had some of that twang. I. I love your accent. And look, again, this, this actually is a better example. You did what you needed to do. And then if he doesn't do it, yes, of course you tell her.

[Josh]

Her.

[Ben]

She's your girl. Like, gotta tell. You tell. Gotta tell her, right? Yeah, you have to. Gotta tell her 1000%. But that sweet twang. Gotta tell her.

[Olivia]

Also, he's a dumbass for doing that in a town, like being on a dating app in a town where everybody else, like, could see it. Yeah, that's doofy.

[Ben]

He wanted to get caught. I'm sure that she's gonna tell her. Or. Yeah, she's gonna. She's going to tell her. She's either already aware or like, he wanted to break up with her. You don't do something like that unless you're over it. It doesn't matter. You get confronted and you're out. Like, that's it. He could either be a dumbass or he could just be over it. Maybe he's just a dumbass. I doubt it though. It'll come back to him.

[Josh]

Totally got it.

[Ben]

He's got it coming.

[Josh]

Should we get to. To Woody Nuts?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Our what are you nuts? Moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things. Whatever's sticking in your craw, both big and small. Ben, what do you got?

[Ben]

So we went to Lady Gaga at MSG on Saturday nights. She's not my whatty or in general. She's amazing. What a performer. Like I.

[Josh]

Brilliant talent.

[Ben]

Incredible. My Wuddy and Utz is the concert 7:30. We're told she goes on 8:40. Okay, so we show up an hour and ten minutes late for her to go on at 8:40, Josh. At 8:40 she goes on. She plays a very popular song of hers, Abracadabra. It plays. All of a sudden all the music shuts. 10 minute break. She goes back in, she comes back out, she sings Abracadabra again. She goes back, she comes back in, she sings abracadabra again, goes back out and comes in and sings abracadabra again. She was recording for the VMAs. This took 45 minutes, okay? From her 8:40 time, which is already an hour and 10 minutes after showtime, she has no opener. Again. We're lucky that we knew she was going on at 8:40. Can you imagine the poor fucking people that got there at 7:30 waited for her to come on till 8:40, listen to Abracadabra four times only to have her Then start her show at 9:30. I would kill myself. What are you nuts? Lady Lady Gaga. What are you nuts? Like these are your die hard fans. At a minimum, do abracadabra four times at 7:30. And I know that you're waiting for every single person to be in the room so that the VMAs it seems pumped up. AI honey, AI. You can fill any room you want. What are you nuts? You can sing in front of nobody and pump in the crowd. Like you don't need to waste people and especially their their time. But they spent so much money to see you. I thought it was insane.

[Josh]

What is Abra? Abra Cadet?

[Ben]

No, that's a good one too. That's a good one too. No, it's Abracadabra. She's a vibe. Even though like she's so total vibe. But this was not Vibey.

[Josh]

The girl from the Lower east side, the Stephanie, that's her name, right?

[Ben]

Yes, Stephanie. She's Italian. I had no idea.

[Josh]

Good Italian, bro. She went to your wife's alma mater.

[Ben]

Yeah, she did. Nyu. It's yours.

[Josh]

My Woody Nuts is Olivia. What'd you do this weekend? Sorry to put you a blonde.

[Olivia]

I went to an adult summer camp weekend.

[Josh]

Everyone needs to grow up. My Woody Nuts is trying to recapture your youth. I didn't even get a youth and I don't want it back, okay? Nickelodeon stole my youth. Fucking the leadership of Nickelodeon fucking stole it. Hard body karate. Ok, so thanks a lot and let go.

[Ben]

Move on. All I have to say, Olivia, it is a little bit nuts, but I hope you had a great time.

[Josh]

I do too.

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It was great.

[Olivia]

They had pickleball, cold plunge, sauna, everything.

[Ben]

Okay, that sounds just like. They're calling it adult summer camp, but like that just sounds fun.

[Olivia]

It was just a cabin weekend with like 40 people though.

[Ben]

Anybody swinging it sounds like a swingers or ch.

[Olivia]

Nobody was swinging that.

[Josh]

No.

[Ben]

That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. You know what else is unfortunate? That our show has come to an end. What are you nuts? Rate us five stars. Listen to us wherever you get your podcast, watch us on YouTube, share our clips Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see ya next time.

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