Ben (1:58)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (1:58)

You know, like, I don't matter. Like, he's got real life things. They bought a house. You know, they're like, talking about having kids, and, like, I'm just there, like, you know, spilling my, you know, my drink on myself, like, at the game. And they're like, Jared, two left hands, you know, like, my Mom's just yelling at me, like, telling everyone he can't drive. He's horrible. He can't do anything. And then there, you know, we're all there supporting my stud brother.

Ben (2:22)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (2:23)

But it was.

Josh (2:24)

What's his position for the team? What does he coach?

Jared Freid (2:26)

So he's on the headset with the coach. He's like, game management stuff. So, like, that's the other thing. Like, decisions are being made on the offense, the whole. The game strategy. It's like, so what went wrong during.

Ben (2:38)

This game that we can pin?

Jared Freid (2:39)

I don't know. That's the hard part. You know, afterwards, I don't even know how well he did, you know? Like, sometimes you go like, you. You know, after. Like, if someone scores a touch, like, I go to him. I'm like, you have to be careful because you. I gotta go up to him and be like. Like, so, how did it go? Like, I don't say it was great. I don't say it was bad. Like, I. Because I don't know. You know, we. We all don't know. Everyone loves football, but we don't know. It's like everything, you know, you don't know it unless you work at it. And, you know, but. But football, ever. It's like, ever. Like, yesterday, there was a.

Ben (3:10)

They.

Jared Freid (3:10)

They tie it up at the last second, and I'm getting, like, 30 texts on my phone from people like, I haven't heard from in years because they're like, it's the one thing on tv. Everyone's watching it.

Ben (3:19)

Were they all texting you? Jared, your audio is muted on all of your stories. I went to watch. I went to watch his Instagram stories. Josh. They're him. He's having a great time talking to cameras at the Bears game. No audio.

Josh (3:32)

That hurts.

Jared Freid (3:35)

It really does crush me, because Ben's message to me is like, there's no audio. It's muted, and it's like, oh, my God. And no one had messaged me. Even worse.

Ben (3:43)

That's.

Jared Freid (3:44)

No one noticed.

Ben (3:45)

Nobody even put it on. They were just giving.

Jared Freid (3:47)

Right. No one even cared about what the fuck I was saying.

Ben (3:49)

We're not here for the Bears, right?

Jared Freid (3:51)

No, we were here to see, like, what your parents are like, you know, like, how crazy they are.

Ben (3:56)

Isn't that annoying? Like, whenever you post something that you're actually passionate about, they just. They don't give a.

Jared Freid (4:02)

We forget that, like, how I do things is how everyone do things, you know? Like, when I go through stories, it's mindless. It's just like, Keep going. Like there's like one person a month who's like, why do you always post your dates every day for shows? And I'm like. And then I'm like, oh, everyone's noticing. But like, no one cares. Most people won't see it. That's why I post it every day to be like, yeah, little touch point, you know, show up. So they, yeah, so they come. But it's a. It was. Yesterday was like top 10 days of the year. Like, just like being with my family and like we're at the game, we're freezing cold. It's all the insanity of my parents and like my brother, like, kind of like going through. And then we went out for his birthday afterwards. We went to like a steak place and. And ate our faces off.

Josh (4:43)

Is he. You know, obviously it's not only losing the game and they played amazingly, but it's the playoffs, right? So now they know they're done.

Jared Freid (4:51)

Right.

Josh (4:51)

Are you working to get him out of the dumps or is he able to kind of leave work at work?

Jared Freid (4:57)

Well, it's like the, it's like the discussion of the meal, like we're talking about, like, it's like, you know, there's emotion to it, but it's like way less. Like everyone's just like, so what happened here? How about this play? Like, you know, like we're all talking about it. It's not. It doesn't hurt the meal. Also, he didn't do anything. Like, in his eyes, that like, was detrimental to his career. Like, you know, like, sure you could if it was. If he was the reason that lost the game. It's, you know, maybe it's different, but he's, you know, he was an act of, you know, part of a really well played game.

Ben (5:24)

You know, it was a three o' clock game, right?

Jared Freid (5:27)

I think it was later. It was like 5:30. I mean.

Ben (5:29)

So when did you guys sit at dinner? Because I.

Jared Freid (5:31)

10 o'. Clock.

Josh (5:32)

Oh, that's late. That's late. What was that? Sleep, like bad sweaty.

Jared Freid (5:37)

10. We're in all our like snow clothes. We're going into this nice restaurant. Like, we like sit like, you know, seven layers, take it all off. And then like now we're ordering where we go. We're getting licensed.

Ben (5:50)

Gibson's.

Jared Freid (5:50)

We know. So we went to Gibson's the night. He knew how.

Josh (5:54)

It's a Chicago, Chicago, baby.

Ben (5:56)

Josh knows something about everything.

Jared Freid (6:00)

A little, A little. A little touch.

Ben (6:01)

Literally the last.

Jared Freid (6:02)

Hold on. It's getting hot in here.

Ben (6:05)

Wow.

Jared Freid (6:05)

I just wanted to make sure.

Ben (6:07)

Do you see his shirt, Josh?

Josh (6:08)

Gorgeous merch. Gorgeous merch.

Ben (6:11)

I, Claudia will be so happy.

Jared Freid (6:14)

I just wanted to make sure I got cooled off in my fresh. I think they only. These are women. I didn't know there was a men and women's T shirts. I think I'm wearing a woman, by the way.

Ben (6:22)

And you, you 100% you're wearing a woman's T shirt. Green looks fantastic. Perfectly with your hat.

Jared Freid (6:28)

I matched everything and the watch. I was like, I, I. When I went on the toes last time, I was like, next time I go on, I'll wear their shirt. Like, because I got dressed up last time. And then they're like, yeah, we're back from maternity leave and everything. I was like, I gotta like, surprise it at some point. This is such a. I'm wearing the team, the team gear.

Ben (6:42)

And you bought this shirt before you went on your GLP1?

Jared Freid (6:45)

Yes, a little bit before the journey.

Ben (6:46)

Before the journey. Josh is a journeyman as well.

Josh (6:49)

What was the order at Gibson's? I've never been to Gibson's and all you got is that gigantic child got fuck do. I just performed it at Notre Dame. And I was staying in Chicago and I don't know how I messed up the timing, but I didn't go. I'm so disappointed in me.

Jared Freid (7:04)

Here's the thing. You walk into Gibson's, it's like walking into like Chicago, Dan Aykroyd land. You know, like, it's like Second City. Like, you feel like you're in Chicago. There's the piano, there's a guy, the piano. There's women like sitting at the piano having a martini. Like, you have to get a martini. You have to get the steak, you have to like get all the, you know, the twice baked potato. That's like their thing. And like, and it's just like you go, I am in a snow globe that says Chicago. Yes. And, and that's like, and like the waiters are all like dressed up and they're giving you and telling you what to order. It's one of those things that like, I'm sure it's good, but like, you're living the Chicago vibe. Like, that's like the, you know, it makes it that much better, you know where. And everyone's like singing around the bar and you know, like, it just feels like you're in like a National Lampoons movie.

Ben (7:52)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (7:53)

Yeah.

Ben (7:53)

You're in a movie. Yes.

Jared Freid (7:54)

I can't believe you guys have never been to Gibson's.

Ben (7:57)

No. And like the one Time I went to Chicago. You know about the one time I went to Chicago, Josh. You know the Steve Harvey Show? We've spoken about this before. Claudia gets a call. We've been dating for, like, a year, and they're like, we want Claudia to find her boyfriend on Steve Harvey. And I wasn't gonna tell her not to do it, because at the time, it's like, she's gonna go on daytime television.

Jared Freid (8:18)

Right?

Ben (8:19)

Get. We're like, okay, we're gonna go to Chicago, and you're gonna be matched up and find your boyfriend on TV while your boyfriend sits backstage watching it.

Jared Freid (8:29)

TV magic.

Ben (8:30)

So that fully happened. And then we went to the Beam, and then I think we went to Pizza Uno, and I went home, right. And we stayed at a lovely hotel, Langham. What a hotel is a beautiful.

Jared Freid (8:40)

Were you there in the winter? Like, I mean, it's always winter there.

Ben (8:43)

It was. It was reasonably cold. It wasn't pleasant. So, like, I think it's probably, like, February.

Jared Freid (8:50)

Yeah. This was like, scrunch your face cold. Like, you're like, what am I doing here?

Josh (8:55)

Cold, like.

Ben (8:56)

Yeah, you told me Seven degrees.

Jared Freid (8:57)

Seven degrees of the game.

Josh (8:58)

What do you wear to the game? You have to be wearing under layers. Long johns.

Jared Freid (9:04)

I was wearing jeans, T shirt, then snow pants over the jeans. Jeans, sweatshirt over the T shirt.

Ben (9:10)

Hell is that? Snow pants over jeans?

Jared Freid (9:12)

I know. I. I agree with you. But listen, I'm packing to go. Like, this is like, I can't bring my whole closet.

Ben (9:18)

Yeah, but you. You can bring a thermal, or you can bring.

Jared Freid (9:21)

I was actually weirdly comfortable. I'm with you. I, like, if I saw a guy play g. Play basketball with jeans, I.

Ben (9:27)

Would like jeans under his shorts.

Jared Freid (9:28)

Yeah.

Ben (9:28)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (9:29)

I would, like, immediately hate him. Yeah, we used. I mean, like, if anyone, like, wears the improper clothing to, like, a sporting event.

Ben (9:36)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (9:36)

I'm out on them as a person.

Ben (9:37)

Of course. Especially when you wear a jersey that has nothing to do with the game.

Jared Freid (9:41)

Yeah. No, no. Get out of here.

Ben (9:42)

Who the Bears play?

Jared Freid (9:43)

They played the Rams.

Ben (9:44)

Yeah. And I'm sure. So. Bears. Rams. And I'm sure that there was, like, some guy in, like, a Phoenix Suns Charles Barkley jersey. Like, wrong sport.

Jared Freid (9:53)

Just want to be.

Ben (9:54)

Wrong guy. Just want to be. I'm at the game, and I own a jersey.

Jared Freid (9:58)

The Bears fans, though, like, are, like, oddly knowledgeable. Like. Like, they're, like. When the offense is on the field, they're literally going, like, it is as quiet as I have ever. It's, like, respectful. Like, there was actually, like, some Decorum, which I like, my dad and I, like, we were like, what is going on? And, like, also, they have never really won. They've never really been great. Like, they had the 85 bears, which is like, was that Ditka? That was the Ditka Bear.

Ben (10:25)

Everybody knows Josh. Everybody knows Ditka. Like, Ditka, he became.

Jared Freid (10:28)

He's a celebrity, but he's like a Chicago mascot, too. Like, if you looked at him, you go, that's Midwest.

Ben (10:33)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (10:34)

You know, like, he's dressed in Midwest. And that is like. And just everyone at the game was just, like, zoned in. Didn't sit the whole time. This is the first time I've sat in 30 hours.

Ben (10:44)

So sorry.

Josh (10:44)

It's unacceptable when people stand at events for what we bought seats. Sit down. Because if you stand, I have to stand. And it's a ripple effect.

Jared Freid (10:55)

This sounds like my dad. My dad was like, if they just sit down there, we can all sit all the way up. And it's like, facts. Yeah. It felt like a college atmosphere. The town felt. You know, sometimes you lose that. Like New York City. You lose that a little bit. There's like, everyone's a transplant. Everyone's trying to do their own thing. La. You lose that. I'm here to get mine. There's something to Like, I'm from Boston. Like, when this. When the teams are good.

Ben (11:18)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (11:19)

Everyone's got their arms around each other. You can ignore any other issue in the world. It's just like, this is about the game. And, like, it kind of felt that way in Chicago. Like, everyone. The stadium leaving the stadium. No one's, like, screaming. People are just, like, kind of Eeyore ing out of there.

Ben (11:34)

Like it meant something to them. Josh, have you been to a playoff football game? A playoff Jet game with Ken, or. No.

Jared Freid (11:40)

No.

Josh (11:41)

So, Jared, my father in law was a quarterback for the jets for, like, 10 years. Come on.

Ben (11:45)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (11:46)

Who's your father in law?

Josh (11:47)

His name's Ken O'. Brien.

Jared Freid (11:48)

So your father in law's Ken O'?

Josh (11:50)

Brien? All through the 80s, yeah.

Ben (11:52)

The Ken O'.

Josh (11:53)

Brien.

Jared Freid (11:53)

That's crazy. Yeah, he's like, one of, like, the longtime jets qb. Like, there's not a of those.

Josh (11:58)

He's one of the greats. And I have been to a game, a Jets game with him, and it's pretty darn exciting.

Jared Freid (12:04)

I mean, he must come on the field, wave to the crowd. Like, he's one of the, like, guys who won the Hunger Games at one point, you know, like, yeah, he's.

Josh (12:12)

He's the guy, he's so beloved. And, and the jets fan base is fascinating. I actually don't think he gets as enough love from the jets because their.

Jared Freid (12:21)

History, you know, the history, all they talk about is the negativity. It always becomes about the jets have always sucked. Like, it's just not fair. It's probably not fair to him.

Josh (12:30)

You're so right. And he was one of the like one happy points in the last four decades of being a Jets fan. And it's funny, I was. Ben and I were doing one of our marquee Amazon lives a few months ago and I'm wearing a Jets hat at Amazon headquarters in New York and the security guard looks at me and goes, you jets fan? And I go, yeah, And I love this. Cause I get to for the first time be a true Jewish mother. I go, you'll never guess who my father in law is. And I go, ken o'. Brien. And the guy looks at me and goes, you know, being a Jets fan ain't easy, but Ken o' Brien made it a little easier.

Jared Freid (13:11)

Oh my God. Even, even that sentence structure felt like a hug, right? That felt like it was set in a movie about Christmas in New York City.

Ben (13:21)

I think Ken o' Brien might be the, he's like the Wal Frazier. Like as a Knick fan, right. Only have, we have like a couple of guys, but like again, in a history of just absolute disaster, like we prop up like a Patrick Ewing.

Josh (13:36)

He didn't, he didn't do diddly.

Jared Freid (13:38)

Right?

Ben (13:38)

He didn't do diddly. Frazier. That's the last championship. 73 jets conversation around everywhere in his suits. Walt. He's, he's, he's a part of, he's in the leather.

Jared Freid (13:50)

Yeah.

Ben (13:50)

Like, he's there. He's, he's.

Jared Freid (13:52)

It always comes out, it comes down to like life is miserable, huh? Like, it's like every conversation. Yeah. The Knicks too. Like you go, you know, but there's a passion for it. Like, it's like we love it.

Ben (14:04)

Yeah. And it used to always be New York sports used to always be, okay, we suck. But the Yankees of 26 World Series, right? And let me tell you, we've been saying that actually for 15 years. Like, oh, it's fine. But we have 26 World Series. We don't have anything. Right? And we had the Mets, and then the Mets didn't offer anybody money. And Pete Alonso, dear friend of the pod, went to the Orioles and now New York, we have the Knicks.

Jared Freid (14:28)

Well, and it's also fractured.

Ben (14:30)

And they don't Even win, right?

Jared Freid (14:31)

Well, but the Knicks teams and every. You know, it's fractured. It's fractured because people are like, I'm a Nets. Jets, please. You know, says Nets.

Ben (14:40)

This is. This is immediately a character flaw. Yeah, you tell me that you're a Brooklyn Nets fan. Okay, miss me. Tell me that you were a New Jersey Nets fan.

Jared Freid (14:50)

Cool.

Ben (14:51)

Brooklyn Nets fan. No. Miss me. What were you gonna say, Josh?

Josh (14:54)

No, that's not. It's not real.

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Josh (17:41)

Now, what do you guys feel now? Jared, you're, you know, you're out there, you know, dating around, you know, being a young man, you know, swiping on the apps, living the life.

Jared Freid (17:51)

That's me. They call me living the life free. That's me.

Josh (17:55)

Do you. Do you care about if one of the people you're dating dating cares about sports? Is that like a turn on, a turn off, or a me turn on?

Jared Freid (18:03)

I like any interest. I like any. Any passion I am passionate about. I just love when people love stuff.

Ben (18:11)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (18:11)

Like, when I date someone, I want someone with a real opinion. I don't care if it's annoying. I don't care if it's stupid. I want them to, like, defend it, but not like, in the way that they're like, dogmatic guy. I want, like, the reason behind it, how they got there. Like, if someone was like, I am a huge fan of this because it can go back to this. I like lore, you know, Like, I like what I like hearing, you know, like, when the whole Ashley Tisdale thing happened.

Ben (18:36)

Yep.

Jared Freid (18:36)

Yeah, she writes this op ed. You know, she writes the op ed about the mom group that expelled her or something. I was like, this is awesome. And then I started hearing from women. They're like, oh, you don't know the half of it. And, like, you start hearing from these women who are like, just know everything about the Tisdale mom group because it's like millennial nostalgia. Stuff I was like, I'm so turned on by that, you know, like, my knowledge. Yeah, just like you're into something. Like, if you're into a team. If you're into a Bring me in. Yeah. Make me uba sop. Tell me your fable. Yeah, you know?

Josh (19:07)

Yeah, I like that.

Jared Freid (19:08)

Like, I don't know, it's like, it's like, you know, when there's the classic, like, do you go on a day with someone, they order a salad and you're like, come on, Come on. Yeah, let's discuss a menu.

Ben (19:18)

Show me what you want to eat.

Jared Freid (19:19)

Show me. Yeah, let me disgust me. Yeah, Unless.

Ben (19:22)

Unless you end up marrying a Claudia who doesn't want to eat anything.

Jared Freid (19:25)

Well, that's even.

Ben (19:26)

And then you're just ordering for yourself.

Jared Freid (19:27)

Right.

Ben (19:28)

Got to learn that whatever you. Whatever you wanted her to order that you wanted to share, you just need to order too.

Jared Freid (19:31)

It's just on you.

Ben (19:32)

It's just on you.

Jared Freid (19:33)

Well, even at that point, it's interesting because at least, you know, there's a direction taken. Yeah.

Ben (19:37)

Yeah.

Josh (19:38)

You know, my wife, about three years into our relationship, became vegetarian in five years and became a vegan and that. I mean, we can still get it on, like, Asian fare and whatnot. Like, we can crush some good, like, mapow tofu and string beans. We can, we can do some things, but for the most part, that shared unctuous Jeffreyina moment of, like, us double barreling a hot dog lady in the tramp style, that'll never be.

Jared Freid (20:07)

It'll never do it with tofu.

Ben (20:08)

I have it with myself. Josh, you have to have it with yourself. I have it with myself. I have a question. If the girl is incredibly interested and motivated by veganism, are you as on board as what you just spoke?

Jared Freid (20:21)

I like what you just did. This is great podcast.

Ben (20:23)

I like that.

Jared Freid (20:24)

Right?

Josh (20:24)

It really is.

Jared Freid (20:25)

Well, yeah, but it's gotta be real.

Ben (20:27)

It's real.

Jared Freid (20:28)

It's. I'm saying, like, it's real. If someone's really for that, then they got places to go. They're showing me different dishes.

Ben (20:35)

Totally.

Jared Freid (20:35)

Like, I don't know. I think I'm like, I'm along for the ride at that point. I want to do less.

Ben (20:40)

You're in the relocated.

Jared Freid (20:42)

Yeah. I think the thing is, like, people think that I'd be like, vegan, get out of here and, like, throw them into an ocean. But it's like, I mean, I just don't like when people are, like, telling me they're vegan while being like, well, only on Saturdays, you know, like, I don't like that.

Ben (20:56)

Sure.

Jared Freid (20:57)

Like, this is really something. Like, when you, like, you're, like, basically trying to, like, tell me who. Who you are before being who you are. That's a big thing with dating is, like, a lot of people are out there on apps being like, I am this and I do this, and then. And then you find out they're like, no, you're not an extrovert. You're not an introvert. You're, you know, like, it's a lot of telling before showing. Like, that's. Which is. I guess that's what you do when you're told. Make a profile.

Ben (21:22)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (21:22)

You know, you have to kind of do that.

Josh (21:24)

Let's all go around and say our green flags at it in a date. Like, what's, like, the one or two things that come up that if they came up immediately, I'd be like, oh, this is, like, second, third date territory. Like, this girl and I, we're. We're vibing.

Ben (21:38)

I'll like something that she did or. Yeah, you start. You start.

Jared Freid (21:41)

Yeah, go ahead. Do you have one?

Josh (21:42)

We had sex on the 1st.

Jared Freid (21:46)

I'll tell you, though, about, hey, I'm looking for casual. Oh, my God. Well, that's my green flag, like, within.

Josh (21:53)

I will tell you this, though. I would be nervous to connect because I've had that before where, like, I've connected with someone who was like, I'm like, this person's cool, and, like, checks all these boxes, and then you get intimate and you're like, yo, we don't connect in this way. Like, we're just in different worlds. And I know I'll never be able to get over that. Like, that will sully everything else. So I'm like, darn, I wish we had done this in reverse so we could have both sort of said, thanks for trying earlier on.

Ben (22:20)

You know, Josh, I'm so lame. I can literally. I haven't. I haven't been on a date with a different girl since I was 19 years old.

Jared Freid (22:28)

And even at 19, like, a date is, like, all make believe. It's not real. You're. You're carrying a parent's credit card.

Ben (22:34)

Yes.

Jared Freid (22:35)

You know, like, you're. You've never opened mail. Yes. You know, like, there's, like, it's nothing. Right. It's playing house Its most 100 Playhouse way. Yeah.

Ben (22:44)

So the most green flag for me, which is what I still love about my wife, is if you can make me laugh, that's it. I've met a lot of girls, I don't find them nearly as funny or entertaining. And maybe my bar for humor is high. But if we have the same humor, I can make you laugh. You can make me laugh.

Jared Freid (23:01)

What you're saying isn't even like, I, I, I to extend on what you're saying. You want a good improv partner. Like, you know, you know, dates are not stand up.

Ben (23:09)

Yes.

Jared Freid (23:10)

You know, if I'm on the date and all I do is talk and not make me.

Ben (23:13)

You're right.

Jared Freid (23:13)

Right. Let's laugh together. You're right. Like, if you get it in a way where it's like, I, I've had those dates where you're like, wow, we'd be good on stage together.

Ben (23:23)

Yes.

Jared Freid (23:23)

And that's, and it's like that, that doesn't mean that person's a performer. That doesn't mean we just know where the other one lets off. And it's like, I have that all the time. It drives me crazy where someone, like, they'll come into, like, the DMS and like, be like, well, you're kind of funny, but I'm way funnier than you. I'm like, get out of here. Like, you so don't get it. You so, like, I would never say that to another person. I don't even think I'm funny.

Arielle Laurie (23:47)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (23:47)

You know, so like, for, like, you're like, you, if you go on stage, it shows their insecurity. Like, people sometimes show their insecurity by just even saying you have a podcast and, and do some form of entertainment or comedy. Their response to you shows their insecurity.

Ben (24:02)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (24:03)

And you're like, oh, I don't need this competition. I want to, like, play with you, not at you.

Josh (24:07)

You know, do you prefer, Jared, that people know who you are before a date, or are you, would you rather it where they're just perhaps not aware of your.

Jared Freid (24:17)

I, I, I don't know. I'd like to hear what you say about this, like, dating, because that's like a different thing. You know, you have a whole career and then you're going on date. Like, I like, I don't like both ways. I don't like, I don't like anything now. I sound like my mom. But I, but I like, if someone goes on a date and they go, I didn't know you at all. Like, didn't have any idea. Never, Never even, never even heard of you. And it's like, enough already. Stop it.

Ben (24:46)

It's like what Josh and I talk about all the time, where somebody will come up to you on the street and they're taking a picture. Not for them.

Jared Freid (24:52)

Right?

Ben (24:52)

They have no fucking clue who you are. You could go to shits if you live or die. But they're. You're their friend. Oh, my God, she would die if I didn't get a picture with you. That is 100% significantly worse.

Jared Freid (25:04)

Right?

Ben (25:04)

Somebody starts a date. Because, by the way, anybody who says, I have no fucking clue who you are 100% knows exactly who you are.

Jared Freid (25:11)

Right?

Ben (25:11)

And they're too insecure to even tell you that they're a fan of yours. It's even worse. But.

Jared Freid (25:15)

And then there's an opposite side of it where it's like, they're a huge fan. I'm like. Like, I. That's probably something that I'm like, I don't want to. Not taking advantage of it, but it's also like, it's not even real. Like, they're so far ahead of me, sure. That I can't catch up to them. So, like, there's like a weird middle ground of, like, being like. Like, you could even say to me, hey, I gotta say, like, I. I've actually never seen yourself. But I have friends who, like, really like your stuff. Or, like, you. Or you just say, I've never seen your stuff, but it's, like, very cool. You could be interested, you know, without being.

Ben (25:45)

Why do they even need to say that?

Jared Freid (25:46)

You don't even have to say. But if they got.

Ben (25:48)

No, I'm saying normal people don't say that. Right? It's not how normal people first meet.

Josh (25:52)

Right?

Jared Freid (25:52)

Well, they think you have an ego, so they're trying to, like, placate to your ego or play it down or let you know. I don't know. Maybe they think very little of me. And they're like, this egomaniac needs to be brought down on peg, you know, so that he can have a normal date with me. Which is like, a weird way to go on a date. Like, hey, let me kick him in the nuts before we start, so shut the up. Like, I don't know.

Ben (26:16)

I. I'm like.

Jared Freid (26:17)

I don't even know what to do anymore. You know? Like, I. Because, like, I mean, when you were going on dates, like, how did you meet your wife? Like, I mean, they. That must have been, like, why? Especially the child stuff, you know? Like, you go, you're an adult now. They know you from, like, on a T. You know what I mean? I don't know.

Josh (26:37)

It was. I mean, not unlike Ben, I met my wife when I was 24 and we basically got together when I was 25. So I didn't do too much super grown up dating. But I kind of had a rule where if I was, you know, if I was dating a girl who was. If I was 23 and she was 23 or like within 20, if you were my same age, I, I understood. But if you were like 22, 21, 20 years old, I was like, listen, you might hate Drake and Josh, you might not fuck with it at all, but you're aware of it. You know, like, you know it existed. Cause remember back then there was one network for kids, one show at a time. TiVo wasn't out.

Jared Freid (27:18)

No.

Josh (27:18)

Social media.

Jared Freid (27:19)

No.

Josh (27:20)

Like there was nothing else to watch.

Ben (27:22)

So did you have girls claiming Josh that they had never. There were clearly in there that, oh, I've never even heard of.

Jared Freid (27:28)

Yeah. Now you just added yourself as a liar.

Ben (27:30)

Yeah, that's ins. That's insane.

Jared Freid (27:32)

Well, also to say you hate Drake and Josh to that, by the way, that's. To Josh.

Ben (27:37)

No, that's also just a red flag in general. Absolutely.

Jared Freid (27:39)

But it's like actually a crazy. This happens. I, I'm sure that happens a lot. Like, like I don't like when someone hates things that the national population has decided on.

Ben (27:48)

Totally.

Jared Freid (27:49)

Like when someone says I hate Taylor Swift, I'm like, I don't need to be brought into your. I think I'm interesting hot take. Like we have decided Taylor Swift is ketchup.

Ben (27:58)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (27:59)

People in mass, people love ketchup. I can respect how popular Taylor Swift is. I can respect the career, the, the, the width. I mean, she just had the largest tour since Michael Jackson.

Ben (28:12)

You're bringing up a great point. I hate that type of person too.

Jared Freid (28:16)

Right.

Ben (28:17)

For absolutely no reason. Just can't get on board.

Jared Freid (28:20)

Well, they're trying to tell you something else. Yeah. Like it's such a tell that you like you've pushed your cards in the middle. It's like a bluff tell. Like they're bluffing.

Arielle Laurie (28:29)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (28:29)

Because to say I hate like Taylor Swift's the best example. Because it's like you don't hate Taylor Swift. Like, that's like, that's actually the dumbest opinion.

Ben (28:36)

That's not a Taylor Swift.

Jared Freid (28:38)

You're jealous of something. You hate people who like Taylor Swift.

Ben (28:41)

That's okay.

Jared Freid (28:41)

That, that I can, that's actually like a depthy opinion. The people and, and give me a reason. But to just say I hate Taylor is just. I, I don't know. I had so one time I like Took a picture of my food and, like, there was hummus on the plate. And someone responded, g. And I'm like, no, no, no. We've decided on hummus.

Josh (28:57)

Yeah.

Ben (28:58)

Like, it's.

Jared Freid (28:58)

It. You're. You're. You're. You should be embarrassed for your.

Josh (29:02)

Ugh.

Ben (29:02)

Right?

Jared Freid (29:02)

Say. The way to say it is. You know what? I'm just not into it. No.

Ben (29:06)

By the way, you don't say anything.

Jared Freid (29:07)

Right. I agree with that.

Ben (29:08)

Yeah.

Josh (29:09)

And, like, what? Get to the root of it. What do you got against garbanzo beans? You like? Oh, tahina.

Ben (29:14)

Like, delicious.

Josh (29:16)

Give me a break.

Ben (29:18)

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Josh (32:52)

But you're so right. I also have an issue with there's that great quote which I'm sure you know the great Chrissy D. Always talks about. You know, Theodore Roosevelt has that quote of like the man in the arena, right? And it's much harder to be the guy standing there performing and fighting for his life than to be up in the rows of crowds throwing shit at the people in the arena. And so I completely agree. Like, listen, I love Taylor Swift as much as the next guy. I don't put her music on. It's not necessarily for me, but like I would never think that it was Dope to talk shit about someone who has been such a net positive for the world.

Jared Freid (33:30)

World.

Josh (33:31)

Like, what a mistake.

Jared Freid (33:33)

Yeah. I think being, like, being thoughtful about something, like hating something isn't really thoughtful. Like, I. I think that's like the.

Ben (33:41)

You have to have a reason. Hatred is typically blind. I do it all the time. I'm with Claudia. I'll say. She'll say, oh, you want to go to dinner? These people. I'm like, I hate him.

Jared Freid (33:50)

Right?

Ben (33:50)

You know, she's like, what do you.

Jared Freid (33:51)

Mean you hate him?

Ben (33:52)

Like, why do you hate him?

Jared Freid (33:53)

Right?

Ben (33:54)

And then I start to think about it, and it's like, you know, maybe I hate him because one time he did something that he doesn't even remember that he did.

Jared Freid (34:01)

Right.

Ben (34:01)

And I just, like, have had in my brain for the last 10 years that I don't really like this guy. And in reality, I probably don't hate him.

Jared Freid (34:07)

No. I call it FTG mode.

Ben (34:08)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (34:09)

Fuck that guy mode. So, like, when someone brings up a name, your initial response. I think a normal initial response is go, fuck that guy.

Josh (34:16)

It is.

Jared Freid (34:16)

And. And I like, you have to accept FTG mode, acknowledge it, and then bring it back. You have to go and just like, you just did. Like, you know what? I don't not want to go to dinner with that person. But here's where it comes from. Here's how it. You know, it's laced in my own insecurities.

Ben (34:31)

Yeah. Josh, do you and Paige have a couple of great couple friends?

Josh (34:36)

We do. We have a great set of about two or three couples who we love. And we have many couples, many people who we group hate and fuck does it feel. We have a real group hatred of them for different reasons. And. And we really. And we have a couple people who we love, but we talk shit about.

Jared Freid (34:58)

Yeah, well, where does that. You know, how do you guys decide? You know, I haven't been in, like, a relationship like that. Like, I. Or it has to. How do you decide on the couples?

Ben (35:06)

You have to be firing on all cylinders. It's very rare. It's probably honestly, like, meeting a girl and liking her and going on more than one date. Like, you're. You're dating the couple. Okay, I'm dating the guy. And I'm dating the girl, by the way.

Jared Freid (35:19)

Right?

Ben (35:19)

Because if I really like the girl and then Claudia's stuck talking to the guy and the guy is miserable, then that doesn't work either. You honestly. You need to be able to properly date both the guy and the girl.

Jared Freid (35:31)

And them together as A couple, like, their dynamic has to work thousand percent. I, you know, it's funny, I was thinking on the way in here, I was like, you know, I don't think men like making friends. Like, I don't think that's like, something like when I move. So I moved to Delray beach, and when I moved, every time a woman heard I was moving, she would go, go, so do you have any friends down there? And I'd be like, no, I don't. That's not even a thought. What do you mean, do I have any friends? What am I, a loser? Like, I'm gonna be fine alone, staring at my phone just like I am in every other city that I go to alone. Like, and I just, you know, when I was thinking about, you know, meeting you and we played golf and we're friends, but you're probably my first new friend in like, two decades. Like, and I was like, and I was like, thinking, I was like, maybe Ben, like, we could get to know each other, you know, more than now. And he'd be like, you know, I met him and I'm out. Like, I, I, I've, like, I've never been turned down as a friend because all of them were made kind of like in childhood, you know, Never. I guess I've made friends, you know, doing stand up and being around. But it was also, like, work was there, you know, like, we, you know, And I was like, thinking about, like, because I'm trying, you know, I'm going on dates at 40, and I'm like, what a. Who do I think I am? I haven't made a friend in two decades. Ben's my first friend, new friend in 20 years. And I'm like, oh, I'm also gonna meet a woman who I suddenly become best friends.

Ben (36:58)

That's like, friends with, right?

Jared Freid (36:59)

And I'm like, well, that's probably not gonna happen.

Josh (37:01)

Yeah, what is dating at 40? Like, because I feel like I would crush it.

Jared Freid (37:06)

I, well, 40, especially in the male, it's way easier for men. Like, any talk of, like, the male loneliness plight, that's like, loser talk, you know? Like, those, that's like, those are like the loud Internet nerd losers. Like, I, like, like, those are like, I, I don't really like. Yeah, I understand, like, being alone. I just said the friend thing. So that's part of, I guess the male lonely. Like, my dad didn't have a friend in the world my whole life, you know, like, and he would just come home and just go into bed and watch TV and Like, then we'd eat.

Ben (37:38)

Dinner, you know, like, my dad's having a renaissance with friends. I also can tell you, my dad never had a friend.

Jared Freid (37:43)

And it's new, right?

Ben (37:45)

My dad has, like. It's all the friends, by the way, that he met throughout his childhood. These are not net new friends.

Jared Freid (37:50)

Okay?

Ben (37:50)

But they've all gotten back together, right? And now they're friends. And now my dad will call me Ben. We're going for three weeks to the Galapagos. I'm like, please don't die. Especially because you have no idea. You haven't seen these people in 30 years.

Jared Freid (38:02)

Benjamin.

Ben (38:03)

You could have gone, I'm going with.

Josh (38:04)

Phil to the Easter Islands. You saw the totems. Me and Phil are going to see the totems, Benjamin.

Ben (38:14)

Literally, he hasn't been friends with these people in so long. They could have done 25 to life, got acquitted, and are now back in his life.

Jared Freid (38:19)

That's. I mean, that happened to my dad. My dad. I remember when I went to visit him in Florida, when they moved down to Florida, I was like, he's like, we gotta cross the street. There's a woman coming across the street. I go. He goes, we got in an argument. I go, you talked to someone new? Like, I was like, he's like, yeah, we've been in. Like, he's like, we just gotta cross the street. I'm like. I'm like, you're in the drama. Like, he never. He was always, like, hiding in his bedroom while my mom talk to people, you know, like. But I. For men, you. It's. The other problem is you get a lot of people that are like. Like have the time to be like, you gotta meet my friend. You gotta meet this friend. So it's a little bit of like. It's a little bit of. And. And like. And then you have to, like, get over your own to be able to, like, want a date. And my life's pretty good. So, like, you know, the problem right now is what you guys have. I kind of like, it's the unknown. It's the fear of, like, that stuff, like getting married, have a kid. I'm like, like, oh, God. Like that. That's the only thing that could ruin my life. Doing that with the wrong person. Yeah. You know, so, like, a lot of people around my age, like, they have their money set, they have their career set, they're like, you know, ish, you know, figured it out, what they spend, what they make, and then figured out kind of their friends and their dynamics, and then they're like, okay, now I have to bring this brand new person in here. Yeah, that could like really just like not be right. So that's a scary thing. But then the dating's fun too big. But here's the big difference. At 40, in your 20s and 30s, everyone's like going for something. In 40s, when you start dating people a little bit older, something has happened and you're like, I gotta figure out what the story is that led them to here. But to both of us, like, I'm not, I have my story and I can tell it my way. That's makes me sound better than I am.

Ben (39:55)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (39:56)

I'm looking for them to tell their story of like what the. How do we.

Ben (40:00)

Yeah, let's not, let's not ignore that something obviously has transpired.

Jared Freid (40:04)

Right? Right. Because that's just the truth. We've all lived a life. Maybe it's your career, maybe you had like a significant other. It didn' work out. That's okay. And I think like the, you know, you just, it. The first date to me is all about figuring out what got. And I think there's intimacy in that. Like what got us here. Like, tell me the story that like made it so you're 35, 36, and a young woman who normally just in general at that age, a lot of women would like to be with someone that they've been with. So like you go, what's the story? And not in a mean. I'm not looking to like.

Ben (40:35)

No, I, I understand.

Jared Freid (40:36)

Right. And if someone can't tell that story, I'm, I'm generally, I have the belief, it's my opinion that like, like they're not ready.

Ben (40:41)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (40:41)

If they can't tell that story.

Josh (40:42)

And there's not a wrong answer to this. But like I think I would do well dating at 40 because I'd be okay 10, 10 years in either direction. Like if some hot 50 year old was like, do you want to go out? I'd be like, Lydia, yeah, let's go out.

Jared Freid (40:58)

You know all those 50 year old.

Josh (41:00)

And the 30 year old, I'm down too. Like 10, 10 years in either direction.

Jared Freid (41:05)

That's the weird part about being single as you get older. I had, I, I had this guy come to me and this happens a lot where like older men will be like, they like, they kind of like tell you this, like, weird. They're like, you know, if my wife passed, like they all. They go into if my wife passed. If my wife passed. And then they'd go on this like 10 minute thing about, like, you know, I would date appropriate. Nothing, all. Nothing younger than 27, nothing older than. They go into this, like, weird. They thought, oh, it thought of it in a way where then they go, but I'm not Bill Belichick. They always reference Bill Belichick. They're like, I'm not gonna, like, be disgusting, but I, you know, I would date appropriately. Like, like. But it's this weird, like, fan fiction of their wife dying. It's like, insane. It happens with a ton of men, and they feel comfortable coming to me. They, you know, I'm sure you guys have this because we put ourselves out there. We're putting out. We're telling jokes. We're being comedians, you know, so. So people, I. Every party I go to, I have someone just ready to tell me their darkest secrets. Do you guys have that?

Ben (42:10)

Yeah, Yeah, I do. I do. I do.

Jared Freid (42:13)

I don't know.

Josh (42:13)

I think you do, Jer, because you're like a safe place, right? Because.

Jared Freid (42:17)

Right. There's no wife for me to tell too. Right?

Josh (42:19)

You're like on the. You are on the edge. You're like this tertiary character, like, living in all the worlds, right? Like, we're married saps. I don't know. Like, I'll go up to my wife and be like, do you know that guy was on ecstasy? She's like, the whole party's on ecstasy, Josh. I'll be like, his pupils were dinner plates. She's like, yeah, you fucking stiff. Like, no one offers you cause you're an old married hack. I'm like, gotcha.

Jared Freid (42:43)

So.

Josh (42:43)

But yeah, I bet people tell you they're deep darks.

Ben (42:47)

It's also whatever you talk about because you are so open with this journey. Like, I guess for me, people come up to me, it's only the things I'm passionate about. They'll tell me. They'll ask me about something that I cooked or something. They'll ask me what Josh is like. They'll ask me a lot about my wife, and they'll probably say something related to politics. I was at a party recently, and every person, they're like, God damn it, what's going on in Iran? I'm like, I know, but we could also just have a good time. But, yeah, what's going on is fucked up. But I am the receiver of your political grip types.

Jared Freid (43:25)

Yes.

Ben (43:25)

Very often at a party. I don't know what that says about me, but that's.

Jared Freid (43:29)

Well, yours break through you. When you put something out on that subject, it always gets put at My table.

Josh (43:37)

It hits.

Jared Freid (43:38)

It hits. And you have a very thoughtful, you know, look at it. And it's not harsh in a way that's like, you know, there's a, there's a softness, there's a warmth to when you put something out. And I think that's like, a big part of it because they, this guy's, you know, it's tougher reasonability, like, people being reasonable to, like, show through. Like, whether you agree or disagree, it's always, like, not in the way that.

Ben (44:01)

I spend a lot of time when I craft my little public statements. I spend a lot of time trying to massage the way that I say something that shows through with the absolute goal of always trying to get somebody to just read it.

Jared Freid (44:15)

Right.

Ben (44:16)

Might not agree with me, it. But if I'm taking the time and I'm putting out a plain text Instagram story, it means that I tried to get through.

Jared Freid (44:21)

See, I would rather you. That's a, like, at least you get treated like a smart person. Someone comes up to me, they're like, oh, man, I just ate. The biggest Sunday of my life you got to hear about was a fried Sunday. You're going to love hearing about this. Let me tell you about this guy who shit his pants. Jared, you'll love this. Anytime I hear, jared, you'll love this. I'm like, this is about to offend me. This is really going to be mean. Jared, you'll love this. There's a guy who goes and shits his pants and then walks around and tells stupid jokes. He's just like, you totally. There's this disgusting. Jared, you'll love this.

Ben (45:01)

That's funny.

Jared Freid (45:02)

It's the story of my life. I, I. Jerry, you'll love this. And Jared, you know who you look like are two things that make me, like, want to run into the woods and grow a beard and never. Yeah, awful.

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Good. Stay there.

Ben (45:24)

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Josh (48:54)

Leno.

Ben (48:56)

Not anymore.

Jared Freid (48:57)

Leno.

Josh (48:57)

I get young Leno.

Ben (49:00)

No. By the way, who do you look like now with the beard? Josh?

Jared Freid (49:03)

The beard is, is smoldering. It's a great look for you.

Josh (49:06)

God bless.

Jared Freid (49:07)

It's a great look. It's with the hat, it looks very. What's that Paramount show that people love? Landman.

Ben (49:15)

Landman.

Jared Freid (49:15)

Yeah, sure. Yeah. You're like New age cowboy. That's the look.

Josh (49:19)

God bless again. On my best days I get Adrian Grenier. On my worst I get get thinner. Gleno or Travolta is.

Jared Freid (49:31)

Yeah, it's Anybody with weight issues?

Josh (49:34)

Yeah, anyone.

Jared Freid (49:35)

Anyone with weight. Anyone with weight issues. I just connected with you in such a way. We've never really met, but I, if someone goes thinner and then says someone else, I'm like, I'm good. I'm just happy. I'm happy with that. I'll take the compliment. Like that's the same. I, I, I met Adrian Grenier. I was in New Orleans. I went to a bachelor party. We went like a night early and we were told go to this bar a night early. All these, I guess all these bands that like are you the best wedding band you've ever heard does residencies at different bars in New Orleans on French Street.

Ben (50:06)

Fun.

Jared Freid (50:06)

So they say, go on Wednesday ahead of your bachelor party because you can catch one of these like eight piece bands. And we go to this place, I think it's called Bon Temps Rule or something like that. It was this band that was known. So we go, we're getting, it's all my buddies. We're Getting hammered. And then I'm literally doing the limbo underneath the trombone. And then I just look up. It's Adrian Grenier.

Ben (50:29)

Wow.

Jared Freid (50:29)

And he's like. And I'm like, ah, Vinny Chase. And he looks at me, and he's got two A Bud Light in each hand. And, like, we look at each other. And then, like, I was like, man, this is like, this is the movie version of this bachelor party. But then. And I just remember thinking, smaller dude than I would have thought.

Ben (50:48)

I thought you were gonna say, I.

Josh (50:49)

Just remember Thin cat.

Ben (50:56)

I've seen you before.

Jared Freid (50:57)

He. He was way small. I thought he was gonna be like.

Ben (51:00)

How tall is he? Like, five eight.

Jared Freid (51:01)

I'm five eight and a half on my right leg.

Ben (51:05)

He.

Jared Freid (51:07)

He's probably. Yeah, I. But also slider.

Ben (51:10)

You're always smaller.

Jared Freid (51:11)

I know. Well, that's the thing. That's. I am. So do you guys like that? What do you like hearing a celebrity? Like, what Immediate. My immediate thought is, what is the celebrity's height? Are they bigger? Smaller in person than I thought?

Josh (51:25)

But that Kevin Connolly, right, who played E on the show, who's a sweetheart, he's my pinky. Because that's the Vince, he's five four. Five, five, five, four is ridiculous.

Jared Freid (51:37)

Don't say five four to me. That just made me like, I like it would make me think of it.

Ben (51:41)

Like, by the way, we can't watch the show anymore. I can't. I can't.

Josh (51:44)

He's smaller.

Jared Freid (51:46)

5 4.

Josh (51:47)

Jeremy Piven's got to be 5 7. And, and I think, by the way, drama is 5 8, 5 9.

Jared Freid (51:54)

Like, drama to me is 6 foot 7.

Ben (51:56)

I completely agree with you.

Josh (51:58)

Turtles. 5 8, Ferrara. Like, I just think these are smaller kids. So probably Vinnie Chase is 5:10.

Jared Freid (52:05)

No, he was not 5:10. I, I, I was like, like, honestly, that's got to be the worst part about being that big of a celebrity is like, I just immediately was like, okay, let's go back to back. Like, I just want to know, you know, Like, I. But it sits with you. You have one memory of someone again. Someone meets you guys, and they have one memory of you.

Ben (52:28)

They always. And actually, I'm now thinking about this for the first time. It is an insult. They're always like, wow, you're so much taller than I thought, and you are tall.

Josh (52:35)

You're surprised you're not taller.

Ben (52:38)

Me right as short also says something.

Jared Freid (52:41)

I think that's a Jewish. I think that's an anti Semitic thing.

Ben (52:44)

It is, right?

Jared Freid (52:44)

Yeah. I'm willing to go anti Semitic on that one, I think. Right. Anti Semitic. Hit that. You should have a bell. Yeah, we should. We should. Yeah. I agree with you because I. Well, I did meet you.

Ben (52:53)

You hit it. It goes.

Arielle Laurie (52:55)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (52:58)

That's anti Semitic.

Ben (53:00)

Yeah. They always say, wow, you're much taller in person.

Jared Freid (53:03)

You are. But you. You are tall.

Ben (53:06)

I'm tall. I'm tall.

Josh (53:07)

You're tall, kid. You're a tall kid.

Jared Freid (53:09)

No, you're tall. You can. You can say you're. I could say you can say you're tall.

Ben (53:12)

I can say I'm tall.

Jared Freid (53:13)

Yeah. Yeah. Without. Without fear. Like. But this is. This is you having not dated.

Ben (53:17)

Hated.

Josh (53:18)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (53:18)

Like me, as a guy, single guy, you have to be very careful about how you talk about your height. Got it. Especially confident.

Ben (53:25)

Is she always like, oh, you're. You're less tall than I thought you were?

Jared Freid (53:28)

No, I get. I get. I get taller because I undersell over deliver, like, the biggest mistake any man. No, I. I give tall.

Ben (53:36)

You do give tall.

Jared Freid (53:37)

Because I do have one leg an inch and a half long in the other. I've had it my whole life.

Ben (53:40)

An inch and a half.

Jared Freid (53:41)

Yeah. An inch and a half longer than the other. So I can stand on my right. Right. Or if I go on my left, I have longer. My left is shorter than my right.

Josh (53:48)

Do you have shoes with a bigger sole?

Jared Freid (53:50)

I did when I was 13. I had a shoe with a sole on it that was bigger.

Ben (53:55)

That's why you slice your drives.

Jared Freid (53:57)

Oh, my God.

Ben (53:58)

That's why you slice your drive.

Jared Freid (53:59)

Maybe I should play golf together.

Ben (54:01)

That's why you slice your drives, because you have too much weight on your front foot. Jared, that is.

Jared Freid (54:06)

If that's the answer.

Ben (54:07)

I'm not even kidding.

Jared Freid (54:08)

No, you're probably right.

Ben (54:08)

Swear to God. You have too much weight on your front.

Jared Freid (54:10)

So I need to go on my.

Ben (54:11)

Back foot for your iron.

Jared Freid (54:13)

Right.

Ben (54:13)

It's amazing because you're supposed to hit down on the ball drivers. You're supposed to hit up.

Jared Freid (54:16)

We might have lost half your listeners. Okay. As long as. Yeah. This is huge. It's crazy. What you're saying is connecting to me. You're right.

Ben (54:24)

That's why your irons are so pure.

Jared Freid (54:27)

And I do hit a good iron.

Ben (54:28)

Amazing. Because you hit down on the ball. Your weight's supposed to be front drives. It's supposed to be neutral.

Jared Freid (54:34)

That's insanity. That is insanity. You're right. That's a good swing thought, by the.

Ben (54:39)

Way, my Jack Nicklaus. That's a crazy tip.

Jared Freid (54:41)

That's A crazy tip. Tip.

Ben (54:43)

That's a crazy correct. It's correct.

Jared Freid (54:45)

I'm going golfing right from here.

Ben (54:47)

It's, it's a crazy tip.

Jared Freid (54:48)

And now I have to go try it.

Ben (54:49)

You have to go try it.

Jared Freid (54:50)

That's the thing about golf.

Josh (54:51)

No, no, sorry. Go, go, go.

Jared Freid (54:53)

Sorry. No, go ahead. No golf. You hear one thing, you're like, I gotta go do it now. Like, what if I just ran out of here?

Ben (54:58)

I know. It's so good. We have the itch.

Jared Freid (54:59)

We, we.

Josh (55:00)

Jared, I want you to, before we get to our final segment, I want you to promote anything. Tell the people. What should we be looking at?

Jared Freid (55:05)

What should we come to a show? I love doing shows. I'm going, when does this come out? This is the classic podcast.

Ben (55:12)

When?

Josh (55:13)

Next week. Week.

Jared Freid (55:14)

Next week. So I'm gonna be in New York. I'm doing shows at Town Hall, Toronto. I'm at Danforth, Valentine's Day Eve and night, New York and Toronto and then Boston on the 30th of January. I'm going out of order. Tempe LA, Los Angeles. You gotta come, Josh. I would love to.

Josh (55:31)

Where are you gonna be?

Jared Freid (55:32)

I'm gonna be at the some theater downtown. But it's on a Saturday, so it won't take eight hours to get to. I'm, I'm gonna be there and then I'm gonna be in Salt Lake City, Utah. And I'm always touring. I've got, I'm on the road. I. And also I have a book coming out about dating. So it's called Walking Red Flag. I'm the red flag. So I tell personal stories that I think you can pre order it now. It's called Walking Red Flag. And then I got a special coming out in September, so it's like I got a big year coming. I'm like, I'm so excited. Yeah, I'm excited. This is it. The, the year, the year of J Train. So. And I got the J Train podcast. I do, I do it daily.

Ben (56:09)

Daily, you do?

Jared Freid (56:10)

I have been doing it daily for like a year now.

Ben (56:13)

And is that exhausting?

Jared Freid (56:14)

It's a lot. I never shut the up. But we do mail back Monday, I give advice Tuesday, I do ticked off Tuesday where I got angry chit chat. Wednesday, you guys gotta come on chit chat Wednesday we just chill like this. And then pop culture Thursday and then Friday I do like my Patreon. But I, I, I go to my Instagram. It's all there, all the links. But this is a pleasure. This is so easy. You guys make easy.

Josh (56:34)

Oh, you're a man.

Jared Freid (56:35)

So fun. Fix my golf swing.

Ben (56:37)

Oh, yeah.

Jared Freid (56:38)

Oh, my God. I. I'm actually. You.

Ben (56:41)

I'm right. You're going to be scratched tomorrow.

Jared Freid (56:44)

That's crazy because I. I do think about, like, my weight.

Ben (56:47)

Your arms are so.

Jared Freid (56:48)

I think about my weight and I think about my weight.

Ben (56:50)

Yeah, yeah. Thinking about weights. All right, well, our last segment. What are you nuts? Gripes with people, places and things.

Jared Freid (56:56)

You have a million of these. Just.

Ben (56:58)

It's in our DNA. You were traveling. Whatever, both big and small. Whatever. Sticking in your. What is bothering.

Jared Freid (57:04)

Oh, I. I'm actually excited to. I want to hear you guys opinions on this. Yeah, I'm a Delta Flyer. I'm going to do an airplane one. But like, I. I gotta.

Ben (57:11)

By the way, the airplane, it is what it is. Somebody has to fix it. Josh.

Josh (57:16)

What?

Ben (57:16)

You nuts Are too frequent.

Josh (57:17)

Every comedian.

Jared Freid (57:18)

Airplane.

Josh (57:19)

Comedians are Delta people. It's the best airline. And every great comedian I know, they're Delta Medallion platinum.

Jared Freid (57:28)

Well, this is on that subject. Okay? So I committed. This is the problem. My most committed relationship is to my era.

Ben (57:35)

You can't. You got to commit to times. Is that why you fucking had a one stop? Because you refused to play anything but Delta? Are you insane?

Jared Freid (57:41)

But my parents.

Ben (57:42)

That's my. What do you. Nuts. I'm jumping you. I'm jumping you. My what do you. Nuts are people that are so loyal to their stupid airline for their status that they will inconvenience themselves. You're telling me that you took a one stop in Atlanta just so that you didn't have to fly United? What are you nuts? Jared?

Jared Freid (58:00)

You're, you're, you're right. This is one where I should have been like, one flight. One flight. You're right.

Ben (58:04)

One flight.

Jared Freid (58:05)

It's like. It's actually ocd. You're right. You're right. My parents want spirit. And you know what's funny about that generation? They don't know that spirit sucks. So I was like, spirit. And then I like, it did a 10 minute you guys are losers routine and they landed and they were like, what are you talking about? We loved it. Yeah, like, they had no. They had no reference to spirit being the punchline airline of America. And they were like, we loved it. It was a. You know, it was a little more expensive than we thought. Like, I'm like, it's. The whole thing is that it's cheap. Like, they didn't even know what speed they're like. It was direct. It got us here in like, 10 minutes. What are you talking about? I was like, okay, we had to.

Josh (58:40)

Pay to put your. Your mother's pocketbook on. But other than that, it was wonderful.

Jared Freid (58:45)

Yeah, we. They did some weird things. Like, they're referencing all the weird things we would make fun of, you know, like, with no knowledge from the mouth of Ben Babes. So my complaint is I was on a Delta flight, and I am. I have 970,000 miles. Lifetime. Okay? A lifetime. So the. The. They go on the loudspeaker, they go. We want to make a special announcement. We have amongst us a guy who is hitting his 2 millionth mile while we're in the sky, and we want to wreck, and we want to give him a gift. So they hold up this, like, bag, bag. And I'm, like, looking. I'm in Delta Comfort because I didn't get the upgrade. And I'm, like, looking to first class to be like, who is this billionaire that we're about to, like, be introduced to? And he's literally a row ahead of me across the aisle in Delta Comfort. Can you imagine? You get your 2 million. I would. That's like, when I go to Barry's Boot Camp and they announce, hey, it's Jared's 500th class. And I'm like, I'm too fat to have 500. Like, like. Like, I. Because, like. Like, I don't want to be announced. Because do. I would be like, oh, let's see this Jack dude. You know? And then it's me, pudgy on a treadmill. Like, I was across the aisle from this.

Josh (59:58)

We've got Jared.

Jared Freid (60:00)

What are we aspiring to?

Josh (60:02)

It's Jared's 900th class.

Ben (60:04)

I know.

Jared Freid (60:04)

It's hard to believe, right? I wish they would say that. I'm so conditioned by my dad. Anytime I get a comment, my dad, like, catches the compman and throws it back with an insult. So, like, if someone's like, jared, you're really losing weight. N. No. You haven't seen anything.

Arielle Laurie (60:19)

Anything.

Jared Freid (60:20)

He's a big fat. Like, it'll go into a whole routine.

Ben (60:22)

Classic girl. When you compliment their dress and they used to tell you it was $1 Walmart.

Jared Freid (60:26)

The exact same thing, except not coming from me.

Ben (60:29)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (60:29)

You know, he thinks I can't handle a comment. So this guy gets 2 million miles, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, what's he doing back here? Like, don't announce it. Don't ruin the dream. Like, I. And also, like, I fly a lot, and I'm not even at A million. This guy's flying twice as much as me over the same time. Spanish, or for the same amount as me over double the years.

Ben (60:51)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (60:52)

So, like, this was all to get Delta Comfort. And then they give him the bag and, like, the woman next to me goes, I. This is the best part of my day. She goes, well, now we're all curious of what he got. And I just look at her. I go, he didn't get first class. And she was like, dying. It was like the biggest laugh of my. I was like, literally hard in my seat. And then she. And then he opens up. It was a passport holder. And I'm like. Like, I wanted to just go up to him and go, we gotta get out of this, man.

Ben (61:22)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (61:23)

Like, we don't need this. We gotta. We. We're.

Ben (61:24)

We're.

Jared Freid (61:25)

She's cheating on us.

Ben (61:26)

You know, I'm over airline loyalty.

Jared Freid (61:29)

I think you're right.

Ben (61:30)

I'm not. I'm not loyal. I fly a lot. I'm not loyal.

Jared Freid (61:34)

It's. It's the crack, I think, but this was the crack. You're right.

Ben (61:38)

What do you want from it?

Jared Freid (61:39)

This is like when, Like, I'm seeing it now because of this guy, and you're making a lot of sense.

Ben (61:43)

You don't need it.

Josh (61:44)

I was platinum on Delta for a couple years when I was flying a lot. And what I liked is the moment I book coach. Because it can be when you're booking to go, Comfort plus can be like $300 more, and then first class can be like 800 more. So I would book coach with that second. It would be like, you're in Comfort Plus.

Jared Freid (62:02)

I'd be like, you bitch your ass. I am. Yeah, they give it to you right away.

Josh (62:05)

And, like, there was some nice things. But to Ben's point, it's like. And the great Brian Kelly, the points guy, I'll tell you, like, at this point, they don't care about us, so we can't care about them. Them. But I do think it would have been better if 2 million mile guy, the present was a 5 pound Biscoff cookie.

Jared Freid (62:25)

With his name on it. You know they have Biscoff written on it.

Josh (62:28)

Yeah.

Jared Freid (62:28)

If his name was Yellow Pages and he's like, I thought we would have became socialists at this end of this episode. This turned us anti communist, anti capitalist.

Ben (62:39)

Josh, what do you got?

Josh (62:40)

The other day it was raining. It had been raining a lot in la, and I was at my beloved equinox and. And I hear a guy go, yeah, man, you know, I'M taking a trip to Costa Rica today. Just happy to get out of the rain.

Jared Freid (62:53)

What? Really?

Ben (62:55)

Rainforest.

Josh (62:56)

In a rainforest.

Ben (62:57)

That's funny.

Jared Freid (63:00)

I think that's just funny that that guy is so lonely that he's just saying things out loud so that people like. He's just talking about his trip. He has no one to tell.

Ben (63:08)

It's an Equinox problem. Josh and I talk about it all the time. Equinox. Equinox. So gay.

Jared Freid (63:14)

Is that. Oh that you think he's like looking for a guy.

Ben (63:17)

You're in the steam room. It's. He's talking to Josh. He's trying to cruise.

Josh (63:21)

That's all gyms. Don't you put that on my beloved Equinox in my free membership.

Ben (63:25)

Okay? That's any gyms.

Josh (63:27)

That's any hot box for dudes.

Jared Freid (63:29)

Hey, has anyone been to Costa Rica?

Ben (63:32)

Anybody gotta escape this rain, right? You. You want to escape this rain with me? Yeah. This sauna, this man. Rain while you're hard.

Jared Freid (63:41)

I love when people just say things out lo to like be heard. Yeah. Is it. And you're like, man. It's like. It's like the, like the achoo when you sneeze. Like. You don't have to do that. No, that's crazy.

Ben (63:52)

No, you can hold it in. Yeah, you can hold it in. Jared, this has been an absolute pleasure. Okay, where to find you at Jared Freed.

Jared Freid (64:00)

Just Instagram. Tick tock. The wizard of Ha.

Ben (64:03)

That's nice.

Jared Freid (64:04)

Yeah, the wizard of Ha. I think wizard of Ha. Or the wizard of Ha. One of the.

Ben (64:08)

I. Oh, did you do the owl trail trend?

Jared Freid (64:10)

Oh, you did?

Ben (64:11)

I saw it.

Jared Freid (64:11)

I did. That was my. That was.

Ben (64:12)

I had a lot.

Jared Freid (64:13)

Josh, I love this one. Okay, so have you seen this trend?

Josh (64:17)

Josh?

Ben (64:17)

And then I'll tell you the one that I did that obviously got no views, but it was really funny.

Jared Freid (64:21)

I didn't even know. Okay, ready? It was. I'm an owl, but this is my impersonation of an owl who lives in your grandparents community in Boca.

Ben (64:32)

Who.

Jared Freid (64:36)

That's really good. Yeah, that was. It was a lot of fun.

Ben (64:39)

Fun.

Jared Freid (64:39)

Go ahead.

Ben (64:40)

Mine was. You're an owl named doia Doubtfire.

Josh (64:46)

I think you lean too hard on the missed outfire. Ben, I think we gotta let go of it. I think it's.

Jared Freid (64:51)

It's a deep cut, but it's a good deep cut.

Ben (64:53)

O your.

Jared Freid (64:55)

Yeah.

Josh (64:56)

I think you should let go. We could let go this episode.

Jared Freid (64:59)

5 stars. This is all an intervention. It was great. 5 stars. Otherwise.

Ben (65:03)

What are you nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your. Your podcasts, Watch us on YouTube. This will be my last show myself.

Jared Freid (65:10)

Let's.

Josh (65:11)

Let's read one of our wonderful reviews. Our five star reviews.

Ben (65:14)

Oh, yeah.

Jared Freid (65:14)

So a review. They write their. What are you nuts? No.

Ben (65:17)

So we don't accept. What are you nuts? Is. Don't tell us you're. What are you nuts? We don't want it. It's no good. Okay.

Jared Freid (65:22)

This feels like it has lore to it as well.

Ben (65:24)

Yeah, no, yeah, we don't want them. No. We want you to rate, review, and subscribe. And when you do that, we are going to read a review live on the show.

Jared Freid (65:34)

I love it.

Josh (65:34)

This One is from Mickey D10. Chubby. Josh was my sexual awakening. This podcast is five stars. Josh is my celebrity crush. Sorry, Paige. And yes, I hope that title gets my review read on the podcast.

Ben (65:48)

Ah, see?

Jared Freid (65:49)

Beautiful. Compliments will get you everywhere.

Josh (65:51)

I'll take it.

Ben (65:52)

Thank you.

Josh (65:52)

So bad.

Arielle Laurie (66:06)

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