Elmo Said WHAT?

Summary

Podcast Title: Good Guys
Host/Authors: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Episode: Elmo Said WHAT?
Release Date: July 31, 2025

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1. Elmo's Social Media Scandal

[00:24 - 03:30]
The episode kicks off with Josh Peck and Ben Soffer delving into a bizarre incident involving Elmo from Sesame Street. Ben, acting as the head of Elmo's crisis team, reveals that Elmo's Twitter account had been compromised, leading to the posting of anti-Semitic messages such as "kill the Jews."

Ben emphasizes the absurdity of the situation, saying, “Elmo would never, by the way” [00:49], and critiques the weak apology issued in Elmo's voice. The hosts humorously brainstorm an episode scenario where Elmo learns a lesson about his inappropriate tweets:

• Ben: “Elmo, why was your password 1, 2, 3? I told you that you needed to make your password stronger.” [01:31]
• Elmo (role-played by Ben): “Elmo made a mistake. He was hanging out with his friend Mr. Kanye…” [01:40]

They highlight the ludicrousness of a beloved children's character being implicated in such a scandal, blending humor with satire to underscore the importance of cybersecurity and responsible social media use.

2. The Epstein Tape Conspiracy

[03:37 - 06:10]
Transitioning from Elmo's mishap, Josh and Ben pivot to discussing the ongoing mystery surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's videotapes. Ben expresses skepticism about the incomplete footage, stating, “All I know is I don't know enough.” [04:20] They explore the broader implications of powerful individuals potentially being involved in heinous activities, reflecting on how such conspiracies are often hushed up:

• Ben: “I get why people are angry. I'm angry. I want to know.” [05:11]

Josh relates this to the broader theme of living in a "constructed matrix reality," where critical issues are overshadowed by everyday concerns, making it difficult for the public to stay informed and engaged.

3. Launching the Big Boys Club

[14:05 - 15:43]
In a creative twist, Josh and Ben introduce their initiative—the Joshi and Benny Big Boys Foundation. This mock segment envisions a supportive community for "thick boys of any class," providing better access to appropriately sized clothing.

• Josh: “These are for thick boys of any class, economic class, but who need better access to bigger pants, bigger clothes.” [14:05]
• Ben: “We're fully inclusive. You have a size 80 and you're one step closer to God.” [14:43]

The duo humorously outlines the foundation's features, including a website powered by Shopify, and emphasizes inclusivity and body positivity. This segment serves as a satirical commentary on niche communities and the commercialization of body image.

4. Health Journeys and Mental Health Insights

[17:00 - 27:54]
Ben shares his personal health journey, discussing his transition to using creatine supplements:

• Ben: “I'm on day five. I'm taking the recommended dose... And my muscles are like, hey, Ben, you want to go fucking do something?” [18:03]
• Josh: “I like looking a little bloated in the face, but it's solid stuff.” [18:44]

The conversation shifts to mental health, with Josh opening up about his own struggles with anxiety and the eventual decision to discontinue antidepressants:

• Josh: “I've been in my cholesterol medicine for life... I stopped taking my antidepressant after three years.” [22:14]
• Ben: “When did you stop?” [22:10]
• Josh: “Two months ago.” [22:14]

Ben offers supportive remarks, advocating for non-judgmental attitudes toward medication and mental health tools:

• Ben: “I support anybody wanting to take anything. Nobody can know what's going on inside of somebody else's head.” [27:08]

This heartfelt exchange highlights the importance of mental health awareness, support, and the personal choices individuals make in managing their well-being.

5. Music, Concerts, and Personal Stories

[35:16 - 50:04]
Josh and Ben engage in a lively discussion about music preferences and concert experiences. They reminisce about iconic bands and concerts, reflecting on how music shapes personal identities:

• Ben: “We're a musical people. Very musical.” [50:25]

The hosts joke about attending concerts, such as Coldplay and the Backstreet Boys, and share humorous anecdotes about their musical tastes and experiences as young fans. This segment underscores the universal connection through music and the nostalgic memories it evokes.

6. Audience Interaction: Q&A Session

[50:39 - 57:54]
The podcast incorporates audience interaction through SpeakPipe, where listeners submit questions seeking advice on personal relationships. Two main queries are addressed:

1. Divorce Consideration:

   • Anonymous Listener: "I'm thinking about divorcing my wife. Hear me out... I just love sucking. What the hell?" [51:23]
     Josh and Ben humorously respond, blending serious advice with their trademark wit.

2. Plus-One Dilemma for a Wedding:

   • Olivia: "Should I talk to my boyfriend or his sister about not having a plus-one?" [52:14]
     They offer practical suggestions, emphasizing respectful communication and setting clear time limits for speeches to ensure the wedding remains enjoyable.

These interactions demonstrate the hosts' ability to balance humor with sincere advice, fostering a connection with their audience.

7. Moments of the Week: Gripes and Rants

[59:37 - 61:23]
In their "Moment of the Week," Josh and Ben vent about everyday annoyances:

• Josh: Complains about his cardiologist’s formal language: “Could you just write 'nourished'?” [60:00]
• Ben: Rants about a rude individual at Carvel: “Can you shut up, roid head loser?” [60:22]

These segments provide comedic relief, showcasing the hosts' personalities and their knack for turning minor frustrations into entertaining content.

Conclusion

Throughout "Elmo Said WHAT?", Josh Peck and Ben Soffer adeptly navigate a mix of topical issues, personal anecdotes, and humor. From addressing the absurdity of Elmo's social media scandal to discussing deep-seated conspiracy theories and personal health journeys, the hosts maintain an engaging and relatable dialogue. Their ability to intertwine serious discussions with lighthearted banter ensures that both regular listeners and newcomers find the episode both informative and entertaining.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben: “Elmo would never, by the way.” [00:49]
• Josh: “This is our Big Boys Club. It’s the Benny and Joshi Big Boys Club.” [14:05]
• Ben: “I'm on day five. I'm taking the recommended dose... and my muscles are like, hey, Ben, you want to go fucking do something?” [18:03]
• Josh: “I've been in my cholesterol medicine for life... I stopped taking my antidepressant after three years.” [22:14]
• Ben: “Don't be judgmental over meds.” [27:54]
• Josh: “I have three children. Can you imagine me explaining to people like, oh, Josh, you finally got away a little.” [39:46]

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Transcript

[Josh]

The following podcast is a dear media production. Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the good guys. A mother's dream premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a good Guys.

[Ben]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Yeah, we're the good guys. They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys. Mazda morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with the head of Elmo's crisis team. It's Ben Topper.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. God. What the hell was that?

[Josh]

Oh, man.

[Ben]

What was the password? Elmo loves Hitler.

[Josh]

Tell people what happened.

[Ben]

Elmo went on an anti Semitic tirade. He wrote kill the Jews. He wrote a bunch of weird crap that he clearly doesn't think. Sesame street loves all people. They then wrote a weird apology. Elmo was hacked. Elmo wouldn't do this. I love that they kept it in Elmo's voice. Like, just write like, this account was hacked. It doesn't need to be. Elmo said attacked. Elmo would never, by the way. Am I Yoda?

[Josh]

Well, so Elmo's Twitter.

[Ben]

You do a good Elmo.

[Josh]

We should do. Let's do an episode where, you know, sometimes Elmo needs to learn a lesson on Sesame Street. So let's do an episode. You're on Sesame Street, Elmo messed up, and Elmo needs to learn a lesson about these anti Semitic tweets.

[Ben]

Elmo, why Was your password 1, 2, 3? Why was your password 1, 2, 3, I told you, Elmo, that you needed to make your password stronger.

[Elmo]

Elmo made a mistake. He was hanging out with his friend Mr. Kanye, and Mr. Kanye asked to borrow his phone while he was logged in.

[Ben]

And so you think that Mr. Kanye. You're saying you had a stronger password? Mr. Kanye changed it to 1, 2, 3, logged in, and then all of a sudden, Mr. Kanye is the one who wrote fuck the Jews. Is that right, Mr. Elmo?

[Elmo]

Allegedly. Mr. Kanye was playing me a cut from Donda 3, to which I said, Mr. Kanye, I will go back to Watch the Throne. That seems to be when things were working. But Mr. Kanye said, no, my audience loves gospel. And I said, agree or disagree?

[Ben]

You sound like Elmo from the Streets.

[Elmo]

Anyway, I don't know why people got so upset. I love Jewish people. My friend Oscar the Grouch, I think is Jewish because he's very frugal and very mean shit. Oscar's very cheap. Like a lot of Jews I know Shit.

[Ben]

Dammit.

[Elmo]

No, Elmo, no. I mean, I got sold a fake chain on 47th street by Moses and.

[Josh]

Julian.

[Elmo]

And I was feeling a little angry. It was.

[Ben]

He's too good. Oh my God, that is too good. That is too good. So, yeah, Elmo, I hope you learned your lesson. Even though it sounds like you didn't learn your lesson and you were really the one that was tweeting the whole time.

[Elmo]

I just really wanted to know what happened to my friend Jeffrey Epstein.

[Ben]

Because.

[Elmo]

Three minutes were removed from that videotape and I want to know where they were.

[Ben]

You got me, Elmo? I don't know. We don't know.

[Josh]

Let's transition off this touchy subject to the Epstein tape because everyone's like, three minutes were removed from the video and I want to be like, yeah. Ever heard of a trailer? Like, yeah, okay. There were previews before it.

[Ben]

Yeah. All I know is I don't know enough. I just, it seems weird. This all seems sketchy and there are just too many powerful people involved for it to just be they big ain't nothing. That's all. That's what I think.

[Josh]

I just love the one thing that unites both parties is covering up the Jeffrey Epstein tapes, which is so.

[Ben]

Which, which goes to show you that like the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the root of all evil and everybody else is just like pretending to push allegiances towards one evil versus another evil. And it's like if you can be a part of a pedophilia ring, you're evil. Sorry, that's not like a, it's not a Democrat Republican of your, it's not even a us thing. If you were a part of a pedophilia ring, you're, you're a bad guy. You're a bad guy. So I don't know why we're, I really hope that they really don't exist. I, I, I'm sure that they do, but, like, I don't know why you would cover these people up. Like, it just, it just doesn't, just doesn't. I, it's just not right. I get why people are angry. I'm angry. I want to know.

[Josh]

It's wild. It just, yeah, we're living in a constructed matrix reality and there are just like people pulling the levers. And unfortunately, I think people are just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, I really got to worry about paying for my kids after school program next month and they're just banking on the idea that people will Forget, because life will get busy.

[Ben]

People will forget because life gets busy. That's just the way that this works. Like, the only reason that this is back is because they are talking about it. The second that they stop talking about it again, it will eventually disappear into nothing. We will never end up learning anything. The exact same thing will happen with. Didn't. Didn't they say that they were, like, releasing, like, stuff on jfk? Like, they were saying they were going to release, like, a bunch of stuff, and all of a sudden. Unless all these conspiracy theories are just nothing. But I'm a big conspiracy theorist, and I think that conspiracy theories are real. I don't think that they're conspiracy theories. So not everything could just be nothing.

[Elmo]

I don't know.

[Josh]

I tend to not believe in conspiracy theories just because most of the people believe in them. Aren't you, Ben? Like, respectable, good people with good lives and good jobs and they live in a basement.

[Ben]

But there's, like, a difference between a conspiracy theory and, like, thinking that there was some foul play with jfk. I don't think that's like, a conspiracy theory. I think that's. I think that's. I think that's. I think it's pretty cut and dry. But people would call that a conspiracy theory, right? So. I don't know. I don't know, Josh.

[Josh]

It's wild.

[Ben]

It's wild. So I want no part of it.

[Josh]

I want to go to Home Goods.

[Ben]

I want no part of it either. By the way, speaking of Home Goods, you know where I went recently, Josh, that is almost as good as Home Goods.

[Josh]

Where?

[Ben]

Marshalls.

[Josh]

Oh, please.

[Ben]

I. I used to go to Marshalls. There was Marshalls on Long Island. My mom would take me to. She's from Jericho. We would go to the Marshalls in Jericho, and I would just rummage through. They would have, like. They were probably fake, like, Swing man basketball jerseys.

[Josh]

I remember finding, like, a nothing fake at Marshall's, babe.

[Ben]

I remember finding a Walt Frazier Jersey for, like, 11 bucks, begging my mom to buy it for me. And she did. And I would buy, like, a bunch of jerseys there. But it's in my head. It was just, like, discounted clothes.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

I went back. This is TJ Maxx. This is Home Goods, their home section. Beautiful. Pots, pans. I'm always looking for plates for 4th of July. I'm looking for Pargi plates. They got Parchee plates.

[Josh]

What is Pargi?

[Ben]

Parji is gorgeous. It's. It's a Gargy Parji. Gorgeous. It just went from gorgeous to Gargy Gargy rhymes pargi. So it's really just gorgeous. Oh, I hate that.

[Josh]

Oh my God. I was hoping for so much more.

[Ben]

No, no, that's. That's it. That's it. Listen.

[Josh]

We're no better.

[Ben]

Definitely not.

[Josh]

Yeah, man. Marshall's growing up. Before I would go back to school, it'd be like, come on, let's go get a piece of. A few pieces of clothing for your school year. And it would be, you know, fubu.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The acronym stands for. For us by us and people. People assume that that's just black people, but it's not. It's also heavyset Jewish teens because I was zooted head to toe in FUBU and it just hugged my. My roles and my curves. So good. And to the great Daymond John, who is a friend who will come on the pod one day, I hope. Thank you, sir. Because maybe you didn't intend or maybe you did intend, but I felt completely seen in my Ruben esque 13 year old body.

[Ben]

Is he a Chrissy Destefano friend or is he a friend friend? Is he a Pete Davidson? I just want to know, are you, are you guys like. Because David John. That's a powerful friend, my man. That's a powerful friend.

[Josh]

I've been in his book. He wrote about me in his book. We've been to dinner.

[Ben]

I'd say that you're friends.

[Josh]

I don't think we are, but I.

[Ben]

I think, I think you're friends.

[Josh]

I appreciate you. I think if I reach out to his people who, who I talk to here and there. We have a lovely working kind of relationship. I've mentioned him doing the podcast before.

[Ben]

We got to start a plus sized clothing line with him. He knows it. Let's make something for the youth. Are there still plus size youth with Ozempic or. It's not a thing anymore, Olivia.

[Josh]

I don't think so. I mean, I don't think kids are allowed to take Ozempic. Like can you take it before 16 that you can.

[Ben]

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the kids are getting jabbed. If you're like an overweight young teen, I think you're getting jabbed these days.

[Josh]

Wow, what a game changer.

[Ben]

I just wonder, I just wonder. Well, like will childhood, it's. It's a crazy thought. And not everybody has access to these drugs. Of course you still have some level of childhood obesity, but it's just like how much will that change? I still think we started. It's not like DXL is going out of Business tomorrow because of Ozempic.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

Okay. Also, people, wherever the badge of honor, there are plenty of people that are super fat that wear it proudly. I wear it proudly. I wear it proudly. So I don't know. I think we started do with Daymond John.

[Josh]

We should do every month, we should do a themed month devoted to people who are big and proud. Like, you know, February is Jewish teen month, and then, you know, March is American Samoa month.

[Ben]

Yeah, I love it. Big and proud from all over.

[Josh]

April is Alabama month.

[Ben]

What was that video? There was like, a kid. I think he might have been from the Philippines. He was probably 8 sumo Saturdays overweight and smoking a cigarette. Do you know the video that I'm talking about? That, like, 8 year old that would rip cigs? Yes. No.

[Josh]

Oh, maybe I do.

[Ben]

Yeah. I'm proud of him. We get the Rizzler. It's Rizzler appreciation month. Right. We get. There's a new Rizzler. You know, Tony Cash. He's not fat, but he's smooth as silk.

[Josh]

Okay. So our ambassadors are the Rizzler.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Jack Black.

[Ben]

The Rizzler. Jack Black.

[Josh]

Tim Dillon.

[Ben]

John Goodman lost too much weight. You saw, he doesn't.

[Josh]

He doesn't qualify anymore.

[Ben]

He's a stick.

[Josh]

And maybe a hologram of me in 2002, and I'm like, I'm the store greeter, but it's a hologram.

[Ben]

It's like, hologram of you. Hologram of you in 2002.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And. And a hologram of me in 2026, and I inevitably shoot back up.

[Josh]

Do you think that's ever possible?

[Ben]

No. No. And also, I wanted to keep going through our ambassadors for our XL line with Damon John. But then I want to go into Josh. I'm on. I'm on day five of creatine and I'm fucking cruising.

[Josh]

And you're working.

[Ben]

It finally clicked. Yes. It never clicked for me. I'm cruising. Let's just finish up this conversation. We got. We got the riz. We got a hologram of you. We got to get a hologram at John Candy. We just have to.

[Josh]

Lena Dunham for our ladies department.

[Ben]

Yeah, we're getting Lena Dunham.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. You're gonna have to listen hard to this app.

[Ben]

We're getting. This is dangerous.

[Josh]

But, like, she looks amazing. And, like, shout out to her, like, fine, okay.

[Ben]

You threw her out there. Fine. No, Lena Dunham. She's not an ambassador. She's not welcome. She's too fit. Who is a lot. Lizzo. Lizzo.

[Josh]

Lizzo's fit too.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, but she's. She's like fit for. She's big fit. She still could rep our line proudly.

[Josh]

Okay, okay.

[Ben]

You could still rep our line proudly.

[Josh]

Shout out. Yeah, because we're for. We're for all bodies. Thick and small, but just not. We're for thick and small, but just not tall.

[Ben]

No tall. Short, fat Kings and queens.

[Josh]

Thick and all, but not tall. Yeah, that's true. Big and tall. How about just big?

[Ben]

All right, so bring Dave and John on the pod. I think that there's something here. This is direct consumer business. We're going to power it with Shopify. 44 inch waist or more. And I think that. I think that this is it, Josh. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Shopify. Folks, do you have a movement that you're trying to start? And I'm not talking about a power movement. I'm talking about. I'm talking about a community driven cause driven project. Do you want to rally the troops? Maybe it's like feed the streets that Josh is always doing because he's a better person than me. Are you looking to start a charity? Are you looking to accept donations? Josh, let's think about this, okay? Because we can do this all on more on Shopify. But let's think about this. We're starting a charity. What are we starting?

[Josh]

Okay, we are starting the Joshi and Benny Big Boys foundation. Okay? These are. This is for thick boys of any class, economic class, but who need better access to bigger pants, bigger clothes. I'm talking we go from like big boys to tarps, okay? I'm saying we have categories, right? We have like chubby kids all the way to you getting your own TLC show.

[Ben]

There was the Boys and Girls Club. Now there's the Big Boys Club. It's the Benny and Joshi Big Boys Club. Here's what you can expect, okay? You're going to go to Benny and Joshy bigboys club.com, which is of course powered by Sean. Bye.

[Josh]

501 is that.

[Ben]

I think so. First we're going to ask for your waist size. Okay? So you're going to. Going to take out the measuring tape. You're going to tell us, and I'm letting you know if you wear a size 42 pants and under, not accepted. We're looking at 42 and above, okay? And there is no max. We're fully inclusive. You have a size 80 and you're one step closer to God. This is the place for you.

[Josh]

We want an A1C in the double digits.

[Ben]

You're going to go, you're going to give us your waist size and then you're going to pick for materials. Cotton Jean.

[Josh]

Then we even have a service where we'll put the clothes on you if you upload a photo.

[Ben]

Fun magic allows you to see yourself in these clothes. It is fantastic. So if you want to start a cause driven movement like us, you're going to go to shopify.com goodguys today because I'm telling you, it's never been easier. You can collect donations, you can collect pant sizes, whatever you want. Do it today.

[Josh]

Yeah, top to bottom. It's got you covered. Shopify.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

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[Ben]

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[Josh]

And bioprin.

[Ben]

Correct. So I've now switched to one tab that has both at the minute, the turmeric and the curcumin. That's what you need to buy because otherwise you're buying turmeric and you're peeing it right out. It doesn't work. It's going to give you hives, okay? So that's on the supplement journey. Besides that, I'm taking our beautiful sponsor, Momentous Creatine. And let me tell you, Josh, I'm on day five. I'm taking the recommended dose for you and Terry dubrow, okay? The 5 milligrams, Josh. I take it with my AG1, I shake it, I drink it. All of a sudden my muscles are like, hey, Ben, you want to go fucking do something? And I'm like, yeah, muscles. I do. I've gone to the gym four days in a row. Wow.

[Josh]

Good for you. Good.

[Ben]

Four days in a row. Four days in a row. We're lifting lightly, we're doing cardio, we're doing the bike. We're here, Josh, we're cold, plunging, and I'm back in a great groove. And really, I swear, if you're having trouble getting back in a groove, take creatine. Your muscles, my muscles, they screamed at me. Is that what happens to you? I take it and they're like, hey, dude, work us, work us. We want to work.

[Josh]

It's a great thing. I do, like, momentous. I use it, too. I think the creatine is great. Sometimes I do a little scoop and a half. I'm nuts. I like looking a little bloated in the face, but it's solid stuff. And I don't know, I work out. I try to work out. Honestly, I would work out six days A week without fail if I didn't sometimes have kids in life come up and it's my great pleasure. It is the game changer of all things. It makes me feel better, but it also makes this kepi feel better. This is a bad neighborhood when I'm not working out. But when I am working out, it's like I'm power washing. I'm getting the gum off the streets, the tar, the disgusting rubbish. So, you know, Terry Dubrow said, if I could choose you to stop smoking or to work out, I would say smoke while you work out.

[Ben]

He did say that and I loved him for that because I'm thinking of picking back up cigarettes. And by picking back up, I mean I never smoked. But like, I just haven't had a cigarette in far too long. It's been at least a year. I just need one.

[Josh]

Oh, that's unacceptable.

[Ben]

I need one. Like, they're just, they're so gorgeous. Let's make that with Dame and John too. The gym cigarette. What do you think?

[Josh]

Yeah, Gym cig. It's a pre workout cigarette.

[Ben]

Oh, I love it. I love it. There's creatine in it. You're smoking your creatine, you're smoking pre.

[Josh]

Workout, you're blowing it on your Nautilus machine and then you're getting a personal record.

[Ben]

Do you think that you can make either a creatine based Zyn product where you just throw it in and it starts doing all the things that creatine does, or a creatine based vape pen?

[Josh]

I think they're both terrible ideas.

[Ben]

What about you? Just like you're on the elliptical, all of a sudden, boom. Yeah, you're doing the skis, you're doing the skis, you're doing the skis.

[Josh]

No. Yes.

[Ben]

He doesn't see it. Okay? He doesn't see it.

[Josh]

Look, the truth is, is that I follow a lot of tick tock steroid accounts because I like to.

[Ben]

If that's not a walking red flag I've ever heard one, I follow a lot of TikTok steroid account.

[Josh]

Oh my God. I'm like, what's your stack, bro? It's like when people go to Yelp before to see what they serve at the restaurant. I'm like, I know I'm going to land there in the next two to five years. So, yeah, I want to know exactly where the hair is going to grow. It's going to be bad.

[Ben]

Yeah. Creatine, Josh, is it? What else should I take? What are you taking?

[Josh]

I don't take Much, I think, like. And I don't even take creatine that much. My whole goal in life.

[Ben]

You don't. You don't take it every day. I thought you took it every day.

[Josh]

No, I cycle on and off. Sometimes I'll take it five days straight, then I'll take the weekend off. I don't want to be on anything. I'm on my cholesterol medicine for life. That I have no problem. I don't believe it has deleterious effects, so I'm on that. I. I stopped taking my antidepressant after three years. I feel okay.

[Ben]

When did you stop?

[Josh]

You haven't noticed? Like, two months ago?

[Ben]

No, I haven't. Which means he didn't need it. Mozartov. Congrats.

[Josh]

You don't know that either. Stop. You and your Blankenstein.

[Ben]

I see it. I would see it, Josh. I would see it. If you were in a dark place, I would see it. You're good. I hide it.

[Josh]

I hide it.

[Ben]

Deep down, you're good. No, I like that you're good.

[Josh]

Don't. You're gonna do this to Ruby. He's gonna be like, dad, I'm having a rough time. Ruby, stop it.

[Ben]

You're gorgeous. You're good. Just. Just brush yourself off. You're fine.

[Elmo]

You're like a father from the 50s.

[Ben]

You're good, dad.

[Josh]

I'm crying out for help.

[Ben]

You're good, dad.

[Josh]

I'm having an affair with my teacher.

[Ben]

You good? Is she hot?

[Josh]

He's lovely.

[Ben]

All right, fine. Now it's time. It's time we had a talk.

[Josh]

Get out of my house. Piece of shit. You're a piece of shit.

[Ben]

Oh, that's funny. Yeah.

[Josh]

You know, I think it's interesting, because people.

[Ben]

Why did you. Why did you go off it?

[Josh]

Well, maybe the better question is, why did I go on it?

[Ben]

Well, I think that you. Okay, let's. Yeah. Why'd you go on it? So when did you go on it?

[Josh]

It's very interesting. I went on it three months before Shai was born. So that would be like June 2022. And I'll never forget, I had been traveling a lot. I had. Was doing Oppenheimer, and then I was doing a lot of college gigs, and I was just, like, traveling, working. It was a lot. I knew shy was coming. And this is. This is a weird story. I woke up one morning, and it was like 5am Because I had to get on a flight back home. And I remember it was when Dave Chappelle had been attacked on stage by that guy who Ran on stage at the Hollywood Bowl.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

And he was a young guy in his early 20s, and luckily security intercepted and beat the crap out of him, and he was taken away. And I remember I just opened my phone to try to, like, wake up because I had this early flight and I saw what had happened, and then I saw a picture of this kid and his arm was twisted in this horrible way, and I. And I started to cry, and I. I just started welling up because it was. And all I could think was, where was this kid's parents? Like, I had this wave of fatherly, like, oh, if only I could have, like, helped this kid to not make this horrible decision. And I was like, something's off with Joshi. And then I was driving a couple days later, and it was one of those moments where you hear it on the radio. Like a commercial came on the radio saying, are you burned out? Do you have feelings of sadness? Do you feel completely overwhelmed? And I was like, yes. And I had always flirted with taking something.

[Ben]

Had you ever been on them before or.

[Josh]

Never.

[Ben]

First time? First time. Okay. I didn't know. You didn't tell me this.

[Josh]

Well, I. I had always flirted with the idea because I had a very typical. You know, just, you know, you hear a lot about it in 12 steps. You hear about it from a lot of artists of just like, that hole in the soul. I always joke around when I qualify at a 12 step meeting, I'll be like, at 8, 9 years old, I was walking around, thinking differently, feeling too deeply, contemplating life in the abyss. And if you had seen me at eight or nine years old, you would have said, get that K a drink because he needs to chill the fuck out.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

So fast forward. I luckily get sober. I have all these tools that I can use. Therapy and working out and working on myself and all these, like, really pragmatic things that I can do. And I did. And I. And I'd had great results, but I just always had this thing, and it seemed to be coming to a head. So I started taking the medicine and I felt good. And I remember, like, it was like one or two weeks after Shy was born. And I said to Paige, I'm like, should I not take this anymore? Like, I can't really tell. And she was like, take it. She's like, it's helping.

[Ben]

I'm like, okay, all right.

[Josh]

If you see it. So I did it for three years, and then I just kind of felt like it was. I wasn't getting the same effect. And, you know, it's not uncommon where sometimes in that three to five year window, something you've taken that's been successful, sometimes you have to. To up a dose, sometimes you have to change the medicine. So I said, let me just try without. And I did. And I was on a super low dose, so it was safe to get off of it. And I feel okay. I mean, I miss it a little. It was fun. Fun little friend.

[Ben]

Okay. All right. Well, one with the way that you joke about these meds and have forever, I honestly always thought that you were on it. I had no idea.

[Josh]

So.

[Ben]

Okay. So went on it in 2022, just went off it. Withdrawal of anything is very hard. So the fact that you're doing it is. Is amazing.

[Josh]

It was a very. It's a very light one. And I was on the lowest dose, so it wasn't okay. It wasn't bad at all.

[Ben]

It was just like a little pick me up. Like. Yeah, like. Okay, look, I. Not that you needed this for me, but like, I support anybody wanting to take anything. I think that it is some. Sometimes you need. You need help getting over the hump for things and nobody can know what's going on inside of somebody else's head. Everybody's head is different. So I hate people that are like, judgmental over meds. So I'm happy that you were on it. I'm happy that you're off it. I hope that you can stay off it if that's what's right, and I hope that you go back on it if that's what's right.

[Josh]

Like, you know, just gave me all the answers.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's it. I.

[Josh]

And then if you want to wait for a while, that's okay. If you take it tomorrow, call me and I say do it.

[Ben]

I hope you do what's right for you. I really do.

[Josh]

If you want to go picket Pfizer, I'm with you. I'll. I'll go buy some plywood.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

Okay, I. I'll tell you what's really interesting. And I don't think you suffer from this, and I think that's a good thing. I hurt my back bad a couple years ago and I had to go to, like, physical therapy and the doctor prescribed me some pain medicine because it was like keeping me up at night. It really stunk. And so I went to this physical therapist, this doctor, and he's amazing, right? And I had seen him before for other stuff. And I'm just like, you know when you're just so like, you know when you get back pain, that takes your breath away?

[Ben]

Yes, of course.

[Josh]

So he's like, trying to work me out and do this.

[Ben]

And by the way, Icy Hot doesn't do it. It does nothing. Continue.

[Josh]

It doesn't. It doesn't. And he's trying to work me out and I'm just like, I can't breathe. It's so painful. And he goes, doctor give you pain medicine? And I said, yeah, but I don't want to take it. And he was like, can I make a suggestion? He was like, take it for three days. He's like, because you are so tight and tense that until your body relaxes for a second, you're not going to start healing. He's like, that's my suggestion. And I did. And he was right. And that was kind of my experiment over the last couple of years is because you live in your own brain, you live in your mind and you think, well, this is just the way it is. And sometimes having a new view of what it can actually be something else is very interesting.

[Ben]

And again, not to pretend to know what you were going through, but, and I think I've told the story, I had surgery in 2011, Chiari malformation, big scar down my neck.

[Josh]

Did you have surgery?

[Ben]

I had spine surgery. Essentially they didn't touch my brain. It was that the top of my spinal cord was protruding on the base of my skull and it was creating spinal fluid. I was fainting for like four months. I had to like withdraw from school for a semester and it left me. The worst thing that it left me with was a horrific anxiety disorder to the point that if I left bed I thought I was going to faint. And this happened for like a year. That if I stood up I would be in the shower. Like I tilt my head back and you know, like when you tilt your head back sometimes, like it's like a little, you get like a little starry or like a little thing, but it's nothing. Sure, right. That's just like normal life. I was like, tilt my head back, I'd feel it and I would have a complete panic attack and shut down. And somehow, some way I told myself, I'm like, look, you've been cleared, you are healthy, you are not going to die. The worst thing that's going to happen to you is that you're going to wake up on the floor. And somehow, I'm not saying that everybody can do this. Somehow I tricked my brain into not being anxious anymore. And I've used that for the last 13 years whenever I get anxious about anything. Because life is anxiety ridden. If you want to go there, even the smallest thing, like being on TikTok and doom scrolling, you can become unbelievably nervous and depressed and scared. And the second that you just say to your brain, I say to my brain, ben, shut the fuck up. This isn't real. Go outside, put down your phone, think about something else, Distract yourself, distract yourself from whatever's going on. I'm at least able to distract myself. And the second that I distract myself for long enough, I've forgotten about it. I'm not saying that it's the same thing with meds, but I do think that the meds sort of take you. It's, it takes you out of that place to your point so that you can see what it's like being out of that place and then hopefully you've just forgotten all about that place and it's gone. Right, but it's. I don't know.

[Josh]

But could you imagine if you had to wear a cutesy little helmet because of your fainting spells? So you just had to wear like one of those soft helmets everywhere you went?

[Ben]

Yeah, that.

[Josh]

That would have been Balenciaga. Could you imagine if.

[Ben]

I can't read the way you're saying that? Balency. That ball in Seattle.

[Josh]

Oh, and it's Mounjaro. Not Mounjaro.

[Ben]

No, but I'm passing the stuff. Balenciaga.

[Josh]

Balenciaga. What the fuck? I'm sorry I didn't grow up on the Upper east side, man.

[Ben]

Balenciaga. All right, Rodeo Drive. Owlingwood, man, that's enough.

[Josh]

Balenciaga.

[Ben]

Balenciaga, man.

[Josh]

Never been smacked so hard by all this high priced items.

[Ben]

I'm going to Second Avenue Deli for a matzo ball in Siaga soup.

[Josh]

A matzo ball in. That's hot. Can you imagine though, a Balenciaga disability helmet?

[Ben]

Imagine a Balenciaga Balabosta.

[Josh]

Right?

[Ben]

A Gucci.

[Josh]

Like a Gucci helmet.

[Ben]

Am I living in an alternative universe where he doesn't know how to say anything?

[Josh]

Oh, my God, I'm sorry.

[Ben]

I love my Gucci hat.

[Josh]

Should we get to some stories, Cookie?

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, that. Story it up.

[Josh]

I think that would be hot. I do think that would be hot.

[Ben]

We need like something to announce stories. Like it's a story time.

[Josh]

Benny and Joshy going over stories. It's Benny and Joshie going over stories.

[Ben]

And then it's like a ticker.

[Elmo]

You were in my friend. You were in my friend.

[Ben]

That was it. Yeah. Benny and Joshi reading the stories.

[Josh]

Yeah. Or we could just steal the news. We could steal from NBC. Benny and Joshy reading stories, reading stories.

[Ben]

Stories, Reading stories. Today on the news, we have Epstein found dead. Again.

[Josh]

We have Epstein. Man, do we wish his last name was Smith. That would be so much better. Well, did you hear about this? Coldplay kiss cam zeroes in on mortified tech CEO and alleged HR chief. So for anyone who doesn't know, at this massive Coldplay concert, they did like an audience cam and there was this, you know, couple in their 40s or 50s hugging, cuddling, and they zoom in on them and the moment they go on the big screen, they immediately freak out and they like hide their faces. And Chris Martin said something to the effect of like, wow, hope you're not having an affair. But are they? Allegedly.

[Ben]

Maybe they are. No, they Are. Apparently it's the CEO and the head of hr, as he said, and they're having an affair. And all that I have to say is if you like, obviously, if you immediately duck out of camera, Josh, people are going to post that. Right? But if they had just, like, played it cool, nobody would ever be, like, videoing a kiss cam at a Coldplay concert and putting it online they played themselves.

[Josh]

No, you're so right. But also hilarious that Coldplay has a kiss cam.

[Ben]

Totally. What is this, a Mets game? Yeah.

[Josh]

It's so dumb.

[Ben]

That's so weird. Even though when I see Coldplay concerts on TikTok, I'm like, damn, I've been there. It's amazing. They're amazing. Wow. I was in, like, an edm, just, like, phase last night, like an EDM doom scroll. And I sent you a bunch of. A couple of vids. I just. I need to feel that. That energy in my veins. That's my drug of choice, Josh. Edm.

[Josh]

Yeah, I know.

[Ben]

A little less so. And when I. What made me think of that is the Sky Full of Stars remix with Coldplay. Chef's Kiss. Chef's Kiss. But those Coldplay concerts, they look unbelievable. Has Coldplay done the Sphere?

[Josh]

I don't know. I'm too busy watching clips of the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere. Are you watching this?

[Ben]

I haven't seen. No. What? Amazing. Are they amazing?

[Josh]

You're too young, Olivia. Have you.

[Ben]

I mean, you're even younger.

[Olivia]

I haven't seen the Backstreet Boys playing at the Sphere, but I'm familiar with them, of course.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. It looks unbelievable.

[Ben]

You know, they're not in my. They're not in my algorithm right now. They're not. They're not.

[Josh]

Ugh, I'm dying to go. I'm so jealous. I want to go so bad.

[Ben]

James, by the way, go. Reach out to me. I can't go. Why? It's a 45 minute flight. Go. I'll get you tickets.

[Josh]

I have three children.

[Ben]

You'll be back. You'll literally be back that afternoon.

[Josh]

Can you imagine me explaining to people like, oh, Josh, you finally got away a little. Yeah, well, the. The boys were at the Sphere, they'd be like, marry a man, Josh.

[Ben]

Just stop stringing. We love it.

[Josh]

We do listen. We do.

[Ben]

We.

[Josh]

We listen.

[Ben]

Love that. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Applebee's. Folks, Applebee's was it when I was growing up. I am telling you, we would head to our local mall, find that gorgeous Applebee's and just get such a beautiful feast. We're talking the spinach artichoke dip. I love the boneless wings. I would go picture this. It's the perfect, perfect suburban evening. You hop into your. I don't know, you hop into your pickup truck, you pick up a couple of friends, you head to the local mall. You're seeing a gorgeous movie. Okay, but before you stop at the bees, because the bees is it. The bees is a scene. You're getting a beautiful Appetizer. You're getting two entrees. And what, they're only charging you 25 bucks? Because right now, Applebee's iconic 2 for 25 deal is back, featuring their new chicken parmesan fettuccine and new big bangin burger. God, what a deal that is. Two entrees, one app, $25. You absolutely can't beat that. And you also can't beat the fact that applebee's is just a family friendly, all American establishment. I love it. Me and Claudia will go. I'm so excited to bring Ruby. You go there and it's just. It's nostalgic. It's the bees you want to take. You want to make memories at the bees. I have such fond memories of the bees. When I was growing up, I, for whatever reason, I loved a New Jersey bees. They just hit me better. That east coast jersey bees hit good. And I'm telling you, I can't wait to do it with my kids. Me and Claudia love the bees. We go all the time. We're absolute it. Bees head. Is that a thing? Beeswax. I wonder what the bees people call each other. But we absolutely love the bees. And applebee's is also the perfect one stop shop to catch a game. I don't know. You want to watch a baseball game, you want to watch a football game, you're going there. You want some brewskis, but you also want some delicious food at a great place price. You can enjoy a great meal. A great meal at Applebee's. And today you can take advantage of their iconic 2 for 25 deal. Because it is back. That is two entrees, one appetizer featuring their new chicken parm fettuccine and new big bang and burger. Two entrees and one appetizer for $25. In this economy? In this economy, you're what are you nuts? For not going and getting that also, I'm telling you, I didn't know this, so I'm sure that you didn't know this either. If you don't have time to make it to the bees, you can order the bees in. I ordered in the bees. Oh, my God. It was just as delicious. And I got to take advantage of the deal when I ordered in. It was absolutely fantastic. But if you have the time, you go to the bees, you go to the mall, go to the freestanding one, you get that big, gorgeous soda. Gorgeous free refills. Unbelievable. You then go into, I would personally go into a spinach artichoke dip. That's just an iconic, iconic, iconic appetizer. And then maybe you get a side of Mac and cheese. You're getting the chicken parm fettuccine. You're getting a gorgeous Big Bangin burger and you're saying, how easy is that? I can't believe I haven't been to Applebee's sooner. It is absolutely amazing. You gotta go 2 for 25. Deal is back, baby. Featuring their new chicken parm fettuccine and the new Big Bangin burger. While supplies last two entrees, one appetizer, $25. In this economy. What are you nuts? You gotta go.

[Josh]

Well, did you know? Brianna Chicken Fry has surprising reaction to Zack Bryan revealing her text. The BFF's co host laughed and called her ex boyfriend effing stupid on the latest podcast episode for sharing screenshots of her past texts earlier this week. He honestly verified everything that I've said, the barstool sports personality who worried Brian had posted her nude photos said on Wednesday. I don't know what he was trying to do by that. I guess, yeah. The message Brian uploaded and deleted via Instagram stories on Monday, notably included a post breakup text from Brianna after he allegedly fled the state instead of going to rehab. The 26 year old claimed that the country singer berated her and sent awful stuff ahead of her lengthy response.

[Ben]

So I've only met one of them and Brianna Chicken Fry is lovely and it seems like she was in a terribly toxic relationship. I don't know Zach Bryan, but it has been mentioned by many a woman that he was an incredibly toxic partner. So I have to side with the chicken. Big chick.

[Josh]

We love that chicken fry. She is really fab, isn't she?

[Ben]

She's cool, she's nice, she's funny, she's great. She's great. And that Zach Brian, he hasn't invited me to a concert. I have no allegiance.

[Josh]

Yeah, he was too busy with. Oh, you have Jake Shane on.

[Ben]

Why? What do I mean?

[Josh]

I mean, we love Jake Shane, but this is Benny and Joshie you understand.

[Ben]

The pikes that we have. I don't know any of your songs, but if I did, I could sing along. Josh has an amazing voice.

[Josh]

I know your songs, and I'm not even a fan. I went. I drove home for a funeral.

[Ben]

I hit a chicken crossing the road. I told him, go to the other side before you get bored.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's something like that, right? Everything changed. And it feels kind of weird, you.

[Ben]

Know, I went off my antidepressant.

[Josh]

I'm not taking Wellbutrin anymore, and I broke up with Brianna. Chicken fucking fry.

[Ben]

Yeah. That's basically it, right?

[Josh]

I know that music.

[Ben]

I think so. And somehow he fills MetLife. It's crazy. Yeah. Who else fills MetLife, Josh? I don't know if I can really. Like, Claudia said that she'd go with me. She said that she'd go. Meatloaf. August 10. August 10 at MetLife. Better than Meatloaf. August 10 at MetLife. The headliner is the Jonas Brothers. I could really care less. Okay, you know who's opening for The Jonas Brothers? August 10th at MetLife. I know. You know, Olivia. Boys Like Girls and all. American Rejects. Let's go.

[Josh]

What. What songs do they have?

[Ben]

Gives you hell? Josh. Josh.

[Josh]

Is that one?

[Ben]

Yeah. What is wrong? We move. I don't know. You know, move along, you know? Move along, you know. Okay, let me bring up my story. I'm going to.

[Josh]

When you grow up above 65th street in New York City, is. Is this how you become a punk rock lover?

[Ben]

Like, I actually think that this is what happens when you go to summer camp. I think this is Jewish summer camp.

[Josh]

What music were you. Were you listening to in the city in. When you were 17?

[Ben]

That. I think that. That I loved it. And like. But. But also then it was like. That was like, the. Like, R B was amazing. And like, pop was amazing. Like, I listened to a ton of Tayo Cruz, like, oh.

[Josh]

And like.

[Ben]

And a ton of Akon and a ton of like. That was like smack. That was like, my. Okay, you said, gives me hell. I'll keep you my dirty little secret. You know that song, you know, move Along, Swing, swing, swing and a table turn.

[Josh]

I don't know that one. I don't. I'll be honest.

[Ben]

You subtleties, they strangle me. I can explain myself at all. No, it ends tonight. Okay. All right. So you're not a fan. But boys like girls, Josh. I think you are.

[Josh]

I'm guessing you were into some 41 good Charlotte.

[Ben]

I'm a mosher. I'm A mosher. I would go to some 41 concerts and I'd run in a circle.

[Josh]

Okay. Are these. You just called yourself a mosher as though you're listening to.

[Ben]

Like, I'm a mosher.

[Josh]

But okay, but like Pantera's moshing music. Like, you were moshing 110 pound kids.

[Ben]

I was. I was moshing. I was definitely afraid. Like, once I went with my friend, he got his nose broken. So, like, I would keep my distance from the mosh. Okay.

[Josh]

I like a nice mashed potato.

[Ben]

Yeah. No, some 41. That was really. That was it. Let's just see. Yeah. In too deep. Oh, my God. In too deep still so am I Still waiting for this world to stop hating can't find a so good and you love Blink182. Love love pieces is the best song. What is that? One second. Are we getting pieces?

[Josh]

Pieces may. Don't play it. We're going to get a copyright strike. Sorry.

[Ben]

I just need to hear. I tried to be perfect but nothing was worth it. And then I get a razor and I just like pretend to cut myself. And I never would, you know, it's just like a vibe.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

It's a vibe.

[Josh]

Wow. Self mutilation.

[Ben]

Sick.

[Olivia]

Ben at 17. Sounds like me at 13.

[Ben]

I love pop punk. Wow.

[Olivia]

Skateboarding.

[Ben]

Olivia. Thank you.

[Emily]

Yes.

[Ben]

Sick.

[Josh]

And like. But you're too young. Like, because it's. It's. I'm young for it. But like Tribe Called Quest, Far side, like De La Soul, Biggie, Pac that just missed you.

[Ben]

Like, it was like cool to say that you listened to Biggie. It was cool to say that you listened to Nas. It was cool to say the Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. It was more like a. It was more of like a culture stance. I. No, we. I didn't listen to the music, but like, sure, Wu Tang Clan was like, yeah, we all wore the T shirts. Like, I had a Wu Tang Clan T shirt because it was cool. Like, There was no 13 year old Jew in summer camp that didn't have a Wu Tang Clan T shirt. Not one. We loved it. It was just cool.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's telling, right? Because like there, there's no. It's why we're not a monolith. Right? Because like, I think there are certain Jewish kids that grew up my age, your age, in the city where hip hop culture defined their personality. They were like, it's like Andrew Schultz, if he was Jewish. But like, it's just. You know what I mean? It's.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And Then. And then there's not. And then there's people who listen to some 41 and they're proud of that. No, I'm kidding.

[Ben]

No, seriously, Jews. I guess that this isn't like a crazy thing. We love music and I. I don't know many Jews that don't love a wide variety of genres. We're a musical people. Very musical. I go. I go far and wide with genres. I like all genres. I just. I'm. I think music is impressive and it makes you feel something. And I love a concert. Nothing better.

[Josh]

Yeah, I love it too. Should we get to speak pipe?

[Ben]

We should. We should listen to a fellow moron.

[Josh]

If you want to ask us a question, get some advice, go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity is oh so key. Okay. This message is from Anonymous.

[Ben]

Hey, it's Elias. I'm thinking about divorcing my wife. Hear me out. First it's her boss, then it's her personal trainer, then it's my best friend. And. Yeah, it's just. It keeps on happening and I don't know what to do. I just love sucking. What the hell? What's that?

[Josh]

It's got a good joke. That was good. I gotta give it to him. I had to play it. Okay, this one's from Confused Chicago girl.

[Ben]

I was ready to give advice too. I'm like, what do you love?

[Olivia]

And Joshi, I'm a big fan of y'. All. And Jackson Claude. I have a. What are you nuts? Moment. I need your advice on. My boyfriend of three years and I have been living together in Chicago. His sister, who's a bit older, is getting married in San Francisco coming up. She says it's a small wedding, only 99 people, so she doesn't have much space for plus ones and is leaving it to only couples who are married. So this means that I won't be attending my boyfriend's sister's wedding. Is this a what are you nuts?

[Josh]

Moment?

[Olivia]

Should I talk to. To my boyfriend? Should I talk to the sister? I don't really know what to do. I feel uncomfortable. Thanks. Appreciate any advice you have.

[Ben]

How long did she say they were together?

[Josh]

Three years.

[Ben]

That's married. That's married. I think I. I understand not wanting to include somebody that will then be in pictures that will then become obsolete. I get that. But three years, Boyfriend, sister, Like, they're. It's so close. Like I. I think it's nuts to not include her. You.

[Josh]

I think you're 100% right, but I think the Only way to win in this situation is to be so aggressively deferential to your sister in law. You only win because you will be proven 100% to be the winner and the right person in this over time. If it doesn't work out with you and your boyfriend, she will be proven to be the right person.

[Ben]

Yeah. By the way, if you want to be right, you got to marry him. Yeah. Other otherwise you're wrong.

[Josh]

And maybe you guys should elope a week after the wedding and be like, I would have been so nice.

[Ben]

Honestly, if you want to, if you really want to go that badly, get pregnant. They're not going to turn you away if you're pregnant.

[Josh]

That's amazing.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I mean, but wouldn't you guys agree, like by her being ultra deferential to what is clearly not a correct move by her sister in law, I think is the way that she wins because it only looks bad for the sister in law even though her gripe is right.

[Ben]

Agreed.

[Josh]

Right.

[Olivia]

Yeah, agreed too.

[Josh]

And you can't mess with a lady in her wedding. Like, it is what it is. Okay, next one from Emily.

[Emily]

Hey, Josh and Ben. Been a moron since day one. I'll get straight to the point. I have a mother in law. Love her very much. She's super awesome. She's just a little bit overbearing. We had our daughter about two years ago. Found out we were pregnant with her a couple weeks after we got engaged. So we've been holding off the wedding, but now it's here in about a month or so. And she just asked me the other day. Well, she didn't ask me. She just told me she was going to give a speech at our wedding. And my brother is giving a speech, his brother's giving a speech. And then I have a maid of honor and a matron of honor. So they're both giving a speech and then my dad is giving a speech because that's traditional. Whatever. But she's saying she has too. And I just want to know your opinion. Like what? Would you just let her do it? Would you not let her do it? She's gonna go on and on and on forever. I'm a little bit worried that it's gonna be like a three minute speech and we already have five people giving a speech.

[Ben]

So what's the six? Five's a lot like. And you mentioned a lot of family members before you got to the end. I was gonna say that it's. And I'm always of this opinion. It is your husband's job to Manage his mom. Like that's just the way that it works. Whenever I hear that wife has an overbearing mother in law, I just know that there is like, sorry, like a really, really weak husband. Because the husband, it's the husband's mother. They have a special bond enough that he could easily. Take this off your plate, sit her down, talk to her. If it was really important that she didn't speak, like. But you just mentioned a lot of people that are speaking. And it's not like she's a stranger. She's your husband's mom. And if your dad is speaking, I think your husband's mom should be entitled to speak. Do I like that she like demanded it? No, but you probably should have asked. I think it's. I. I think that considering you already have five, it's already going to be too long winded and everybody's going to hate you and it's going to ruin the party. Two speeches max. Okay, but you're at five, so what's a sixth? What do you think?

[Josh]

Yeah, I agree with you. And I think you've actually, you will. A opportunity has revealed itself because clearly with these five, you don't have a time limit yet set. But now that you have six and you say, listen, we wanted to honor all of you, you put it on them. We would never think to not allow you to have a speech. Mashiach, mother. We love you, brother Schmack. Asso Matrix, maid of honor, Usher, best man. You, this is what you do. You go, listen. Because we have now six people. You each have 60 seconds. 60 to 90 seconds, right? So you do 60, you're. You're. You're out at six minutes, maybe like seven and a half minutes with a little clapping. Break, toast in between 90 seconds, it's going to be a little bit over 10 minutes. Beautiful. Like now, if you give everyone hard limits and say, listen, guys, this isn't a suggestion, respectfully, you have 90 seconds. So around 75, start wrapping it up. Beautiful. Because they can't get mad at you.

[Ben]

That I completely agree. And make sure you group them. Do not do two in the beginning, two in the middle, two in the end. Don't do it. Speeches can ruin a party. Right? They can also make a party. They can make a party, they can be great and they can be funny. Only you know, you mentioned that your mother in law goes on and on. She'll ruin it. So put it all at once so that people can only the music is cut once. If the music keeps getting cut, party's over my friend.

[Josh]

At their wedding, the groom's brother wasn't able to to be there because his wife had just given birth like the day before and they couldn't fly. So he recorded this beautiful toast. Just a audio file to be played during the toast for his brother gives this lovely little toast, really sweet and simple, and he goes, and you know, bro, I love you. And I just. I didn't know how to show it, so I actually wrote you a little song. I wanted to write you something. And so. And you hear his guitar tuning up, and everyone's like. Because I guess he does play music and he is a good singer. And so everyone goes like, oh, my God. He wrote a song. Oh, my God. And about two seconds goes by and he goes, nah, that'd be crazy.

[Ben]

That's so good. I've actually been to a wedding where the father wrote a song for his son and he fully sang it. And this was woof. Oh, my God.

[Josh]

Jacob Zitzler, you're my. You're my toddler. I watch you 1 to 2, 3 to 4. My little tatula, my mantula, the one that I adore.

[Ben]

You have a little bit of an instinct twang.

[Josh]

It's like, because I'm going for Melania. Melania.

[Ben]

So good.

[Josh]

My toddler, my teeter tot. How are we doing on time, Olivia? Oh, perfect. Let's wrap this thing up.

[Ben]

Do you have a woody Nuts?

[Josh]

Yes. Our woody units moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and tall. Whatever sticking in your craw. I went to my cardiologist the other day. Great. Love him. I read my clinical notes after because I get it on my phone and it said, a well nourished 38 year old. The nuts. Could you just write nourished? Why well nourished?

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Leave our boy alone. He's looking great. Okay? Leave our boy alone. My woody nuts is I got a Carvel, Josh. There are a lot of Carvels in the Hamptons. I think they're the last Carvels in the world. And they are absolutely delicious. You get a big, beautiful cake. You get a soft serve, whatever. I'm waiting in the line. I get to the front of the line. I order a couple of things. There's a house full of people, right, Josh? I'm not just getting for myself.

[Josh]

Course.

[Ben]

And yeah, the line slow. It is what it is. This. This roid rage. Like, this guy just left the gym. He's in like a tank top. He's like. Like he clearly just did drugs. Like he's. I'm ordering. I. I ordered an ice cream. Then she comes back, I order something else and he looks at me and he says, you know, it'll all be melted by the time you get home. What are you nuts? Can you shut the up, okay? Can you just shut the fuck up? It's not gonna be melted by the time you get home. You have no idea how far I live from the Carvel. Can you mind your own fucking business and wait in line, you fucking roid head loser jerk. Okay? I don't stand and watch you order your ice cream. You know I'll be melted by the time you get home. You know you're a fucking cock sucking loser. Shut the fuck up, roid head.

[Josh]

Put some sleeves on your shirt, you fuck.

[Ben]

Yeah, and share the roids. Lord knows I need some. And you know what else I need, folks? I need five stars on this episode. Otherwise, what are you nuts?

[Josh]

Listen to us.

[Ben]

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