Gentiles Be Wildin'

Summary

Good Guys — Episode: "Gentiles Be Wildin'"

Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Release Date: January 8, 2026
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this lively and comedic episode, Josh and Ben dive into the chaos of the post-holiday season, reflect on parenting and family routines, discuss holiday traditions (Jewish and "Gentile" alike), unpack New Year's resolutions, and riff on pop culture moments like the Critics Choice Awards. The hosts blend their signature Jewish humor with relatable stories about family life, anxiety, consumer culture, and embracing risk. In addition, they touch on the evolution of children’s names, childhood memories, and tackle their “What are you, nuts?” segment with fresh stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Holiday Chaos & "Topical 2026"

• Timestamp 00:26–02:21
• Josh and Ben marvel at finally recording a “topical” episode released on the same day it was taped.
• They riff on how the extended calendar of Hanukkah, Christmas, and New Year's left everyone in a state of confusion.
  • Quote:
    "What am I going to do? Start New Year's resolutions on a Thursday night? No, no. You enjoy your weekend." — Ben (00:49)
• Josh laments the extended period without childcare, jokingly wishing for a shorter break.

2. Beard Talk: Vanity, OCD, and Spousal Fashion Advice

• Timestamp 02:21–05:13
• Josh discusses growing a beard during the holidays and frames it as a rebellion against his usual vanity and OCD tendencies relating to cleanliness and discomfort with makeup.
• Ben jokes about his own patchy beard and relates to the “itchiness” factor that leads him to shave.
• Quote:
  “If your wife tells you you look handsome, you keep—whatever that is. That is a huge win.” — Ben (05:13)

3. Family News and Baby Names

• Timestamp 06:06–10:19
• The hosts congratulate friends Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donahue on their new baby, Bo.
• Extended musings on baby name trends—Jewish, biblical, and old-school hipster names.
• Anecdotes about friends and family renaming their children, and Josh musing over the challenge of choosing the perfect name.
• Quote:
  “The name—it’s their name. Do you think anybody ever looks at their kid and is like, 'You're really not an Ashley'? ...Buyer’s remorse, 100%.” — Ben (08:07)

4. Christmas with the Pecks & Gentile Holiday Traditions

• Timestamp 14:41–21:26
• Ben asks Josh for a breakdown of the Christmas experience in a Jewish household, introducing the titular theme “Gentiles Be Wildin’.”
• Josh walks listeners through the stress of “elf on the shelf,” likening it to “an auditor for the IRS” sent by Santa to spy on families:
  • Quote:
    “So, elf is like…basically, the elf is like an auditor for the IRS, right?... You’ve got a mole in your house. You’ve got a rat.” — Josh (18:15-19:10)
• Both reminisce about receiving Hanukkah presents, especially Hess trucks and kids’ scooters, and discuss the evolution of childhood “status symbols” (e.g., Razor scooters).

5. Nostalgia, Childhood, and Status Symbols

• Timestamp 21:31–23:32
• Ben recalls his obsession with Razor scooters and the feeling of envy and belonging they inspired as a child.
• The hosts bond over the role gifts played in their childhood.

6. Podcast, Guests, and Listener Feedback

• Timestamp 23:47–24:53
• Ben shares feedback from his parents about recent podcast guests, including Mel Robbins—“My mom’s a huge fan. Loves Mel.”
• Both express gratitude for their growing podcast and guest list.

7. Parenting Holidays: Florida vs. New York & Reliving Childhood

• Timestamp 30:26–32:30
• Ben gives an update on his holiday break in Florida: the virtues of warm December weather, skipping skiing trips, and enjoying quality time with his family, especially with young son, Ruby.
• Ben’s insight: being a parent means continually reliving “firsts” through your children.

8. Ultimate Florida New Year’s House Party

• Timestamp 32:30–34:05
• Ben describes an ultra-bougie Florida house party—caviar served on nuggets, valet parking, a hookah station—defining what a “traditional 30s Florida house party” looks like today.
• Quote:
  “It was the best house party I've been to in quite some time. Caviar, McDonald's nuggets in case you wanted to put some caviar on top...” — Ben (33:06)

9. New Year’s Resolutions: Caffeine, Supplements & Aims

• Timestamp 34:05–41:08
• Ben’s resolutions: less caffeine (“I was having 560mg of caffeine all at once before I ate anything”), and less reliance on TikTok trends and supplements.
• Josh’s thoughts: skepticism about the supplement industry, advocating for physical movement as a remedy for excess energy and anxiety.
• Explores the concept of manageable “aims” rather than concrete “goals” to avoid disappointment.
• Quote:
  “I really believe that we wake up every morning with a surplus of energy…most of us have all this excess energy…and I think we're all oxes and you need to attach yourself to a plow every day.” — Josh (39:04)

10. Digital Hygiene & Evening Routines

• Timestamp 41:40–43:59
• Ben’s additional resolution: replace evening TikTok scrolling with more relaxing habits like walking or watching TV (Planet Earth).
• Discussion on the pitfalls of endless scrolling and the diminished dopamine of TV vs. social feeds.

11. Sleep and Kids’ Schedules

• Timestamp 42:58–44:16
• Updates on each host’s children and their changing sleep patterns.

12. Embracing Risk in 2026

• Timestamp 44:30–51:56
• Josh’s 2026 “aim”: “Fail big”—he wants to attempt something creatively ambitious, accept potential failure, and break out of his comfort zone.
• Ben cautions about not “manifesting a loss,” encourages Josh to take risks without getting attached to the outcome.
• Quote:
  “The only trap can be holding on to the good…if I want to go out here and try a little something, I should. The time is now.” — Josh (48:31)
• Discussion about investing in passion projects versus business—spending for joy, not just returns.

13. Pop Culture Roundup: Critics Choice Awards & Film Talk

• Timestamp 52:07–56:57
• Brief commentary on the Critics Choice Awards, Timothée Chalamet’s apparent big night with Kylie Jenner, and musings about new films like “Marty Supreme.”
• In-depth discussion of biopic trends, mentioning films about Bob Dylan and Springsteen, and a comparison to “Ray” (Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles).
• Hilarious tangent on Ray Charles’s unique method for determining women’s attractiveness—by their wrists.

14. "What are You, Nuts?!" Gripes of the Week

• Timestamp 57:38–61:12
• Ben’s Gripe: At a holiday lunch, mistakes a large woman in a red shirt for Mrs. Claus—awkwardness ensues.
  • Quote:
    “He goes up to Mrs. Claus. It is just a regular large woman in a red shirt. Complete ‘what are you, nuts?’” — Ben (57:50)
• Josh’s Gripe: Shares a miscommunication at the gym involving a trainer’s recommendation for Costco tuna poke—awkwardly referencing “the tuna” in the gym leads to an uncomfortable misunderstanding, unintentionally making it sound like innuendo.
  • Quote:
    "She looked at me like she had forgotten the conversation and she thought I was making some weird euphemism for her vagina." — Josh (60:19)
• Ben shares a genuine warning: don’t overdo the affordable tuna, “mercury poisoning” is real.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Maybe I'm supposed to be a prophet.” — Josh, reflecting on his beard growth (03:11)
• “Kids…they had nothing new to offer by December 28th.” — Josh (01:56)
• “I thought I was Luke Combs. I wasn't Luke Combs. I was leukemia.” — Ben, on his failed pandemic beard (02:58)
• “If your wife tells you you look handsome, you keep—whatever that is.” — Ben (05:13)
• “These names are a little, like—I know who you voted for.” — Josh, on hipster baby names like Penny and Poppy (09:20)
• “So, elf is like…basically, the elf is like an auditor for the IRS, right? …You’ve got a mole in your house.” — Josh (18:15-19:10)
• “It’s always like a Hasidic rabbi. I don’t need him there 24/7.” — Ben, on "Mensch on a Bench" (19:10)
• “If it was a real mensch on a bench, it would be under the floorboards—you know, it would be World War II coated.” — Josh (19:42)
• “Caviar, McDonald's nuggets in case you wanted to put some caviar on top of it—they thought of everything, Josh.” — Ben (33:06)
• “I was having 560mg of caffeine all at once before I ate anything.” — Ben (38:11)
• “We have this surplus of energy and I think we’re all oxes—you need to attach yourself to a plow.” — Josh (39:04)
• “My goal this year is to fail big…I play everything close to the vest.” — Josh (44:35)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:26 – Topical new approach & holiday fatigue
• 02:21 – Beards, vanity, marriage
• 06:06 – Baby news & names
• 14:41 – Christmas recap, Elf on a Shelf
• 21:31 – Razor scooter nostalgia
• 30:26 – Ben's Florida holiday recap
• 32:30 – Florida party of the year
• 34:05 – New Year's resolutions (caffeine, supplements)
• 39:04 – Physical activity as mental aid
• 41:40 – Less TikTok at night
• 44:30 – Embracing risk: "Fail big"
• 52:07 – Critics Choice Awards & movie talk
• 57:38 – "What are you, nuts?!" segment

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Tone and Style

• Witty and self-deprecating, blending Jewish humor with contemporary observational comedy
• Casual, conversational, and “insider”—hosts often riff and drop sharp asides
• Honest and relatable—especially about modern parenting, personal goals, and anxieties
• Occasional playful crassness, with affectionate jokes at their own expense

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a quintessential blend of the Good Guys' humor, warmth, and social commentary. It’s a whirlwind tour through the chaos of modern parenting, the quirks of Jewish and gentile holiday traditions, and sincere reflections on self-improvement and risk in the new year. Whether kvetching about children outgrowing holiday magic, debating the ethics of elf-based surveillance, or musing about the right way to fail in life, Josh and Ben strike a uniquely engaging tone—both entertaining and thought-provoking.

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Interested in Jewish parenting, self-help, and modern culture, spiced with plenty of banter? This episode sums up why Josh Peck and Ben Soffer have found their stride as the “Good Guys” of podcasting.

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the good guys. A Mother's dream Premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys.

[B]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[A]

What are you nuts?

[B]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[A]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of the good guys. Muscle morons. Welcome back to the Good guides podcast. It's 2026, baby. It's July or January 8th. I am completely overwhelmed. We're doing topical podcasts. It's Thursday, January 8th. I feel like a kidnap victim. Help.

[B]

It's so good. Like, what did it take us three years to get topical? It's Thursday, January 8th, and we are releasing the episode four Thursday, January 8th. And just. It is not too late to say Happy New Year. Okay? It's not too late because really, the New year started. Let me know if you agree. The new year, this year started on Monday, January 5th. Monday, January 5th is the new January 1st. With the way it fell, what am I going to do? I'm going to start New Year's resolutions on, what was it, a Thursday night? No, no. You enjoy your weekend. We're still in this weird two and a half weeks. This was a long time, Josh. Hanukkah, Christmas, New Year's. I think I read that it fell. It was the longest it could possibly fall.

[A]

Really?

[B]

For people who work corporate jobs. Yes. Because, like, Christmas was on a when a Thursday, so they had to give the Friday. Then New Year's was on the Thursday, so they had to give the Friday. So it just created this. Nobody knows where they are, who they are, what they're doing. But we do, Josh. We do, because we're here live in person, not in person, across the country from each other. But we're here, Josh. We're here.

[A]

Yes. No, listen. No one felt that more succinctly than me with our childcare. Because suddenly, two weeks off. What, are you kidding me? This is nuts. I love my children, but not so much. This is too much time with my own. I know. You know, you never think you could get tired of your own children. You know what I mean? They come from you, but let me tell you, they had nothing new to offer by December 28th.

[B]

And did you grow this beard, which I think is beautiful, by the way. Did you grow it over that two week period? Yes, you did. Yes, you did, Josh. Pretty starsy, huh? I love it. I love it. But this is also the look of, like, I didn't have time to shave over a two week period because I was too busy with my children type of beard. Let me tell you, if I could grow that beard, I would grow it instantly. My beard comes in far too patchy. It's ugly. It's. It's not what you want. You'd look at it and you'd say, ben, you have to shave. You look terrible. I'll send you some pictures of me during COVID My goodness, I grew out that beard. I'm so embarrassed. I thought I looked great. I thought I was Luke Combs. I wasn't Luke Combs. I was leukemia. It was really just. That's funny. It was terrible. Thank you. It was terrible. So, yeah, it was no good. Your beard looks fantastic.

[A]

It's pretty unbelievable that within 20 days, like, I probably shaved bare naked. Razor shaved 20 days ago. And now I have this pretty, pretty substantial, huh? Maybe I'm supposed to be a prophet.

[B]

It's very impressive. You're built to be a rabbi. Let's just see how long it goes. Like, how long have you ever gone without shaving?

[A]

Maybe a month or two for a movie I was doing. But you know, I'll tell you exactly what this is. And it happens to usually fall around a new year. I shave my head once. 2020.

[B]

January.

[A]

No, December 2020. And because my hair had always been a big source of vanity for me, and it also had been incredibly unruly, I was wrestling with my hair. I was going against my roots because I, I got it relaxed for over 10 years. Brazilian blowouts. I was getting hot combed, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

I do.

[A]

And I said to myself, I'm 33 years old at the time. I, I have a child. It's enough, you know, I don't know how much longer I can sustain it. And it was the first time that I really. And I got a bunch of big work subsequently. Like, there was something freeing about doing this. And similarly, I have weird OCD things about cleanliness, texture. I really hate makeup on my face. Every makeup artist for anything I've worked on has always been like, you don't want to be in this chair, do you? Like, I'm always respectful and patient, but I'm always. They could just tell. Like, some people love getting made up. And I don't, I don't like products. I don't like feeling dirty. So this beard is very triggering for me. I feel dirty all the time. I have long hair. It's, it, it's A lot. But my wife said I looked handsome, and she likes it. And I trust her taste more than my own, so it's. It's counter. What's the word? I'm taking. Yeah. I'm going against my instinct in a good way, and I'm taking a little contrary action.

[B]

If your wife tells you you look handsome, you keep. Whatever that is. That is a huge win. Huge win. And I can tell you you look handsome. I can also tell you that unfortunately, I know that itchy beard feeling, and that's exactly what always prompts me to shave. I will just go. Even though I know when I'm fully 100% clean shaven, I look like a lesbian. No question. Always. I don't know what it is. I always look like a lesbian. Not there's anything wrong with that. It's just wrong for me, Josh. It's wrong for me. Okay? I don't. I don't want that look. So, Josh, I go from this scraggly beard that I'm trying to. I'm trying to get to that point, and then one day I'm just like, fuck it. I'm too itchy. I need to get this off me. And I single blade it all the way down.

[A]

You're like, suddenly I have a Subaru and I'm listening to Sarah McLachlan and I. It's enough.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

It's enough.

[B]

Yes. Speaking of lesbians, I want to congratulate beautiful friends of the podcast, Dear friends of ours, Taylor Strecker and Taylor Donahue had a beautiful baby. And let me tell you this. This baby Bow, she's gorgeous. That's her name. She is gorgeous. What a journey for them.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know. I thought of lesbians. I thought of them. My. My favorite lesbians. Love them so much.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

No, so much. Beautiful, Beautiful baby Bo. Beautiful baby Bo. Bo.

[A]

We considered Bo is a name for one of our children. But like Bo Peck. Did it seem like Bo Peep? I know. We weren't sure.

[B]

A little.

[A]

It's a little Bo.

[B]

You know, a little. But I. But I like Bo Peck. I like the name Bo in general. It's great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Beautiful name.

[A]

Is there a world in which and God willing, you know, let you have a small litter of beautiful children? I feel like you'll never go too exotic with the names. Right?

[B]

You.

[A]

It's always going to be pretty Jewish, pretty biblical.

[B]

I think so. I think so. I mean, we like naming after people who are deceased, so it's hard to get away from those true Jewish names. Even though for Ruby, we just pulled the R. Yeah, no, I don't think we'll ever go too, too crazy, but Ruby, I mean, some think Ruby is crazy. I'm always saying Ruby. They're like, he's a girl. I'm like, no, he's a boy. His name is Reuben. Ruben, Ruby. Ruben, Ruby. But I think some people would consider Ruby for a boy, a little, A little out there, even though at one point it was quite fashionable. And let me tell you, Josh, this boy, you've met him, this is a Ruby. He couldn't be anything else. He's Ruby. He's Ruby.

[A]

He is.

[B]

He's Ruby. The same way that all of your kids are. All of their names. It's so funny. Like, they could never be anything else. But we, we go back and forth, oh, should they be this name? Should they be that name? The name. It's their name. Do you think that anybody ever looks at their kid and they're like, you're really not an Ashley. I wish I didn't name you Ashley. You think that ever happens?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Buyer's remorse, 100%.

[A]

I have family friends who change their kids name a year in.

[B]

Wow. Wow. This is just not. You're just not it. Yeah.

[A]

And then my friend, we have family friends who's. Who Dale went, became Dina. And it was. She didn't transition, she just changed her name. Like. No.

[B]

Oh, that's interesting. I was going to say, okay, good for her. But no, she just changed her name.

[A]

Yeah. Dale became Dina because I don't think she ever liked Dale. And so she was like, what can I do that? You know, Caddy corner.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie. I. If I was Dale, I like Dina. Dina's a nice name. Dale is a tough name. Right. Dale's tough.

[A]

And don't call me late to Dina.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like Dale is. It's, it's one of those very rare now. There are not. There aren't too many Dales. I once met a Dale, but it's a rare name. Very rare. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, look, we're seeing a resurgence of like hipster, old fashioned names, which I'm against Penny, Poppy, you know, Rick. No, I don't know.

[B]

I don't need. I don't need a Penny, you know? No, I don't need Penny.

[A]

These names are a little like, I know who you voted for. Okay, but, but, but like no one's going for old school. Truly old school names like, like Reuben is an old school name in the best way, but like Go for like, name your daughter Gail. You want me to be impressed?

[B]

You should.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, Gail's a lovely. Gail's a lovely name.

[A]

Gail.

[B]

I'm all in on Gail.

[A]

You know, we don't have any. Donna's.

[B]

Oh. Oh my God.

[A]

Donna Kardashian.

[B]

Donna. Donna's great. Donna Peck is beautiful. She's a fashion designer. Donna Klein.

[A]

Donna Klein.

[B]

Thinking of Donna Klein.

[A]

No, Donna Karen. Donna Karen.

[B]

Donna Karen. What did I say? Donna Klein. Is that somebody too?

[A]

No, it's somebody. I'm sure it's some Jew in Long Island.

[B]

Yeah. No Donna Klein. Dkny. Or is that. Is that Donna Karen?

[A]

That's Donna Karen, New York, by the way.

[B]

Badass Donna. Oh, yeah, big time, big mao. I love Donna. Okay, I'm going to add it to my list. Hbh bh. There's a girl at some point that's hot. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at Peak. Folks, here's the harsh truth you don't want to hear. You can spend all the money on serums, but if your cells are stressed and dehydrated, nothing will grow. This year, let's stop the broken resolutions and fully commit to the internal fix. Your skin is begging for the secret. It requires a powerful two part solution. One element to fight inflammation and the other ele element to guarantee deep cellular hydration. That's why the Matcha and electrolytes duo is essential for skin transformation. This is Peak, where spirit meets science. Aspirational wellness for people who want to perform at their highest level. The top 1% where only the best inputs will do. Peak takes the most powerful botanicals, minerals and vitamins from nature and elevates them with cutting edge extraction technology, creating supplements you'll actually take. Peak's Radiance skin duo is the solution. Simple, powerful combination delivers the antioxidants and deep hydration required to transform your complexion from the inside out. Folks, I'm here to introduce two products, two products by Peak to you. Okay, you ready for these? Sun Goddess Matcha, your morning reset button. It's a cult favorite, ceremonial grade volcanic soil Matcha that calms and detoxes the skin from within. How great is that? And their BT fountain, your all day beauty hydration. This is luxury hydration, not a sports electrolyte that rebuilds and rehydrates your complexion. Folks, Peak is it. I'm telling you, if you're gonna do one thing this year, you gotta check out Peak. Their stuff is the absolute cat's meow. Redefine your standard of health, secure 20% off your order and begin your internal wellness journey [e-mail] goodguys that's P I Q U E L I F E.com goodguys commit to intentional health, unlock 20% off and establish your powerful foundation for sustained well [e-mail] goodguys that's P-I Q U E L I F E.com goodguys this is hydration redefined. Try it and glow from the inside out. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by our friends at himss. Folks, HIMS can't help you fold a fitted sheet, but it can help you with your performance in bed. Take control of ED with personalized treatments made with doctor trusted ingredients prescribed by licensed providers. 100% online we love direct to consumer. Through HIMS, you can access personalized prescription treatment options for ED if prescribed. HIMS offers access to ED treatment options ranging from personalized products to trusted generics that cost 95% less than brand names if prescribed. You shouldn't have to go out of your way to feel like yourself. Hims brings expert care straight to you with 100% online access to personalized treatments that put your goals first. This isn't a one size fits all care that forgets you're in the waiting room. It puts your health goals first with real medical providers making sure you get what you need to get results. Think of HIMS as your digital front door that gets you back to your old self with simple 100% online access to trusted treatments for ED and more all in one place. So folks, to get simple online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, hair loss, weight loss and more, visit hims.comgoodguys that's hims.comgoodguys for your free online visit h I m s.comgoodguys hims.com goodguys featured products include compound drug products which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness or quality. Prescription required. See website for details, restrictions and important safety information. Actual price will depend on product and subscription plan. I need an update. The people need an update. Okay, look, we banked through the end of the year. Josh and I haven't been in person together in about a month. We have an incredible amount to catch up on. So Even though it's January 8th, we're going to talk about we should talk about Christmas. I want to know what the pecs did for Christmas. Did Kris Kringle come? By the way, before you answer, I watched Santa Claus for The first time with Tim Allen. What a terrible movie.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Okay. What a bat. Yeah, it was terrible. And my God, they had to have better CGI or whatever they were using in 1990 than that. That was just terrible. Okay. Terrible. I hated it. I hated it.

[A]

Tim Allen has really broken the mold. Like he's one of God's children. Like he's one of God's picks. Because not only did he successfully beat felony cocaine trafficking charges in his 20s, but he's been on three successful sick. He's played in 500 episodes of sitcom television, and no one knows about it.

[B]

And none of them were even that good. Like, I'm sorry, I. I also rewatched a little Home Improvement. Josh. Okay. Which I remember loving. It just doesn't stand the test of time.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I think a great sitcom. I think you'd agree. If you watch it now, you're still laughing, you're still into it. It's not a timepiece. If it was great, if it was great. Home Improvement. It's just like, a little bit too much Tim Allen making fun of his wife. It's like a weird. I watch it and I. I was just like, okay, Tim, we get it. She cleans the house. We get it, Tim. And it was just like, the result. I don't know the last time you watched it, if you've ever seen it, but it's just not like, maybe I just am a Tim Allen hater. Is that possible?

[A]

No. We love Tim Allen here. Shout out Tim Allen.

[B]

Yeah, we do. What was he. He was in Toy Story, right?

[A]

Yeah. Buzz Lightyear.

[B]

Yeah. See, that's the role of a lifetime. Not only did he have sitcoms, he probably. How much money do you think he made from Toy Story? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[A]

From Five Toy Stories, right? Or there's gonna be five, there's four. By the way, Quentin Tarantino's favorite movie, by the way, is Toy Story 3. He calls it a perfect movie. Like, it's in his top 10.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[A]

It's like, there's Toy Story here.

[B]

I mean, the Toy Story. No, I'm kidding. Which, by the way, fantastic franchise.

[A]

Which, by the way, what the fuck? Paul Dano went to my. My bar mitzvah. Shout out, Paul Dano. I mean, you know, whatever. Shout out Quentin Tarantino. But shout out, always a lovely guy and a fabulous actor. But, you know, honestly, I think from 4. 4 Toy Story movies in Jackson. Feel free to Google it if you're into it. He must have made a hundred million dollars at least, right?

[B]

Like, It's. It's. It's him. Buzz. He's.

[A]

Buzz. Yeah. He's the dude.

[B]

He's the dude. Josh, talk to me at a. A Peck o' Brien Christmas. I just. I just. I just need to know. Talk to me about it. Did. Did Santa come? Does he come?

[A]

Of course Santa comes. He shows. We did the whole magilla. First of all, first you have. And this is, you know, these. These gentiles be wild in title, you know, first you got the elf, right? The self on the shelf. So not only is Christmas enough pressure, but now you got 24 days of moving this elf around the house. And you know me. I don't care. I'll take that elf. I'll boot it.

[B]

I don't know the elf. I don't know the elf custom. Tell me about the elf.

[A]

You don't know this. Elf on the shelf. You don't know. You don't know this.

[B]

I know elf on a shelf because we made Mensch on a bench. I know that, but I only know it because of Mensch on a Bench. I don't know. Elf on a shelf. So the elf, you move around, and it's supposed to be like. The elf is. He's moving himself around. Is that the idea?

[A]

Exactly. So elf is like. Basically, the elf is like an auditor for the irs, right?

[B]

So, sure, sure.

[A]

So Santa sent one of his goon squad down to spy on your family. Okay.

[B]

Oh, so the elf communicates back with Santa if you were naughty or nice.

[A]

Yes. The elf is constantly.

[B]

Elf is really there. So the elf's there 24 7. Yeah, that's weird.

[A]

I guess. I don't know whether parents first thought it was a good way to keep your kids in line for the month leading up to Christmas and. Or it just made it a little more. More festive, but, yeah, the idea is the elf jumps around, it watches you. It's reporting back to Santa, and so you've got a mole in your house. You've got a rat. So a real rat.

[B]

I don't like that. I don't like that at all. I'm out on elf. I'm out. By the way, the only thing worse now that I know it than elf on a shelf is mention a bench. I don't want this random Jew in my home 247 watching me who was. I don't need that. And it's always like a. Like a Hasidic rabbi. I don't need him there 24 7. 24 7. Josh. What would he think if he saw me put that kosher piece of cheese on that kosher piece of meat, he'd have a big problem.

[A]

Oh, my God. And if it was a real mensch on a bench, it would be under the floorboards, you know, it would be World War II coated. Mention the attic.

[B]

That's funny. Oh, my God.

[A]

It'd be like the hostage in Crown Heights. Mention a tunnel, you know, and it comes up.

[B]

Oh, my God. That's really funny.

[A]

That's so good. So we. You move it around for 24 days. But we had a fabulous time, you know, like anything. First of all, we did Hanukkah as we do, and so I made sure to give, like, usually the presents for Hanukkah are like the new Hess trucks. I love the Hess truck tradition. Growing up on the east coast, we did it all the time. So we do that for the boys. And then you really, you know, Meyer's not quite there yet, but you really try to figure out the one or two big things that they would love. Max wanted a go kart. We said, that's not happening.

[B]

Wow. That's a sick request, though. I'm proud of him for that. That's good.

[A]

It's good.

[B]

Good ask.

[A]

It's not reasonable. And they're not street legal. So instead we went very gay and got him a keyboard. And. He loves. He loves playing piano. He has an app on his iPad that teaches him. But, you know, I have acoustic upright piano in my office. So now he has a beautiful keyboard that he can play. And shy got a scooter, which he's been dying for. Shout out. Micro scooters. The best scooters in the game. It was great.

[B]

Are they okay? So Sharper Image is dead. The razor scooter is dead. The kids have moved on.

[A]

It's time. Micro, micro, micro.

[B]

Wow. The razor scooter is dead. That's sad to hear. That thing, Josh. My God, was I obsessed with it. Everybody was obsessed with it. It was the first status symbol I can remember. Like, if you had a razor scooter from Sharper Image, that meant something. And then the kids just had the regular razor scooters, not from Sharper Image. And you knew. You just knew, Josh. They got it somewhere on clearance. If you had Sharper Image, you were doing clear great. Oh, sick. I used to have one. I went from, like, the regular one. I asked my parents one Hanukkah and they got me one that had off road wheels, which was hilarious because I probably never went more than one mile an hour. Like, I was so scared. But I Had those big blue. They were tires on my Sharper Image razor scooter. It's fantastic.

[A]

I just imagine you're. It's like $100 more and one late night as your parents are perusing the catalog, deciding what to get and money's a little tight and your dad goes, ava, the boy is. The boy is 200 pounds. He does not need the off road tires. Ava. It's meshuggah. Ava, we live on. We live on. On Madison Avenue. Where will he be off roading?

[B]

I have to reach you with. My dad texted me the other day about one of our episodes. You know, just like your mom. My parents watch every single episode on YouTube. They watch every episode. Oh, my dad texted me this the other night. They watch. They love. They sit on the couch and they watch.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know they watch.

[B]

Yeah. And I thought this was so funny. Where is it?

[A]

Oh, Oh, I can't wait.

[B]

That's huge.

[A]

That. What a commitment. I don't think my mom watches.

[B]

It was about O's. Oh, yeah. They watch. Oh yeah. Listen, repeat, reply. We love O's. Perlman. Yeah. Like where'd you. I was like, where'd you come up with that? Listen, repeat, reply.

[A]

Where'd you come up with that?

[B]

So funny. So funny. But they loved O's. They said that O's is hilarious. That O's is hilarious. They loved him.

[A]

I think we. And granted and we honor in here that, you know, our true morons just, you know, they want us. They want us all the time. They want to go straight to the vein with the pure product. But we have had quite the guests on our show recently. No.

[B]

Mel Robbins. The Mel Robbins. Nobody was more excited. Again, my parents will tell me. They'll be like, eh, you know, I didn't love that episode. I didn't love that guest.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Or they'll tell me, oh, I love that guest. And Mel Robbins. I didn't know. My mom, huge fan. As am I. As. Are you.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

My mom's a huge fan. Love Smell. Love smell. Yeah, she's. She was fantastic. The great Nick and Tony. You surprised me. He was fantastic. I mean we really had one hell of. One hell of an end of the year.

[A]

I'm proud of you.

[B]

It's almost like we were trying to. It's almost like we were trying to juice our numbers. One hell of an end.

[A]

Yes. We're desperate.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I'm trying to think of all. You know.

[B]

And now. And now are my surprise guest, Maduro. He's here.

[A]

Yeah, let's get real topical and political. We're actually doing a live episode from Caracas, baby. Can you imagine? I was thinking about, you know, as everyone knows, you know, the former president of Venezuela is now resting, you know, safely in a jail in Brooklyn, New York. Can you imagine? Like Trump flies to go have dinner with Maduro, right? Like, he's just like, listen, you know, you're arrested, but let's, let's go to. Let's go to losers. And he goes, zoron, you have the invite and you know, mom, Donnie can't because of the optics, but Donnie goes like, he can't.

[B]

But he won. But he wants to.

[A]

He wants to. You'll get some gel. Sauron, like me, me and Maduro, we're gonna have steak for four. Zoran, like, come join us. It's not halal. Hello, Huzari.

[B]

Sorry. Did you see that video of him being brought into custody where he's wearing socks and slides?

[A]

So good.

[B]

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[A]

Good. Guys, tell me about your break. You've been in Florida. Florida.

[B]

Been in Florida. It is gorgeous. I'm currently in Jackie's studio at Jackie's. And it is just. It's gorgeous, Josh. I mean, the weather here in December, it's amazing. Like, normally, you know, like I'll. We'll go to like some cold weather destination. We used to skate. We're done skiing. Okay. I skied. Honestly, I'm lucky I got out alive from these ski trips. I should never have been skiing. Skiing is far too dangerous. I'm not even like a thrill seeker like that. And let me tell you, the weather has been just fantastic. Ruby obviously prefers 75 and Sunny over. New York has been, as the kids say, brick. Josh. New York has been Brick, dummy.

[A]

Brick.

[B]

Like, like the coldest winter it's been in quite some time. Yeah, really, really, really cold. So it's been wonderful. The beach, the pool, just spending time. It's funny what you described that two week period with no help. We also had no help, but we only have one child, so it's 2,000 times easier. It's not even comparable, but like, I loved it. I didn't know what day it was, what time it was. And it was just me, Claudia and Ruby. Yeah, like in good weather. We went to this like, butterfly exhibit for the first time. I sent you videos or pictures from it. And it's just, it's just so. At least for me, it's so true. Like having children, you just get to relive everything. Like, I got to watch him interact with a butterfly for the first time. I'm not going to a butterfly museum on my own. I'm just not. But with him, I get to go. I get to watch him see something for the first time. And it just made me realize, like, I just get to do that, which is just like, so awesome. And so that really was the Break. It was just like the Ruby Show. Claude and I had a really great time. I'm saving my Christmas story for my. What do you. Nuts. But I have a great one. We did meet Santa. It was fantastic.

[A]

Great.

[B]

And the New Year's, we went to a traditional house party. Josh. In Florida. And let me tell you, it was sick. Oh, I sick. Walked in beautiful valet. You go in. They had.

[A]

Traditional houses do not have valet.

[B]

Josh. This is a traditional Florida in your 30s house party. Sorry. This is not like you're all. This is not a traditional house party. This is the opposite. This is a. This was the best house party. I've been doing quite some time. Okay, you go in. Josh. Caviar. Oh, my God. Waitresses holding a bucket of caviar.

[A]

I just.

[B]

You want a caviar bump? You want a caviar bump, Josh. No problem. Okay. Caviar bump. You gave a full table of McDonald's nuggets. I did. Excuse me. You gave a bait.

[A]

And it's like, I've never heard. Like, I'm literally thinking it's like Fanta shots and 40s people ripping cigs in the front yard.

[B]

We were ripping cigs in the front yard.

[A]

Yes. Okay.

[B]

No fanna. No 40s cigar roller. Josh. They had a hookah station. Are you kidding me?

[A]

Sick.

[B]

They had a hookah station. No. This is your party. This was your party. Absolutely fantastic. They had a table of just McDonald's nuggets in case you wanted to put some caviar on top of it. They thought of everything, Josh. They thought of everything. So, yeah, Christmas, New Year's, it was great. That said, I. I have some New Year's resolutions. I don't know if you have any, but I have one or two that I wanted to share with you. Do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's hear one. Is something that I do think you've been very passionate about for me. But my first New Year's resolution is that I personally am going to have less caffeine. I didn't know. I didn't realize I could. Was talking to my parents. I'm like, you know, I'm like, a little jumpy, like, a little anxious. They're like, all right, what do you do in the morning? And I said, you know, I start my day with a Trent ice coffee with two shots. And they're like, ben, are you out of your mind? What do you mean? You start the day with a trend. Iced coffee with two shots. Like, you know, like, we're sensitive to caffeine. I didn't. They've never said that to me in ever, ever. That they were sensitive to caffeine. We're sensitive to caffeine. You're probably sensitive to some. Just. Let's just have a cup of coffee. The. The suffers, the softer, the softer family apparently is sensitive to caffeine. Apparently, we're sensitive to caffeine.

[A]

Charlotte, this sounds like a naturopath. This was. Was this your mother's psychic?

[B]

Totally. It could have been. It could have been. We're sensitive to caffeine. Why don't you take it down a notch? So, Josh, for the last week, I've had one regular coffee in the morning. Let me tell you, it has been amazing. I'm no less tired. I'm just a little bit calmer. I don't get here. I don't get here. Just here. So for me, I'm gonna have less caffeine. The second thing I'm gonna have less of is supplements. I'm no longer gonna be a supplement junkie, okay? I'm no longer going to. If I see a TikTok from Dr. Amen saying that if you take meshuggah root, all of a sudden you're gonna lose. Lose all your weight overnight. I'm no longer taking the sugar. Naruto. Okay, I'm done. I'm done.

[A]

That's.

[B]

So I'm done. I'm done with my chicken root. I'm done with all of them.

[A]

So.

[B]

So, yeah, I'm going to figure out. Figure it out. But I'm just going to take less supplements. Okay? That's. Those are my two New Year's resolutions. Less caffeine, less supplements. I don't know if you have any, but I wanted to share those. You and with everyone. Again, this is not me telling you to have less caffeine and take less supplements. I'm telling you that for me, less caffeine seems to be working and less supplements is the way to go. My body is good. My body's good. I'm skinny. Like, like, let's relax. I don't need all this stuff. I need to be in the gym. I did 12 incline, 3 speed, 30 minutes this morning, Josh. Very hard. So very hard.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

In the gym, maybe do a little strength training. That'll be my third thing. Work out a little more. Those are my resolutions.

[A]

I love those. I think they're perfect. I think supplements are a trillion dollar industry that have more bad than good, or I would say. I would say more neutral than good. On the scale of like, I think most of them don't do much. I think there's a small. I'd say 25% do a lot. And when sourced well and used correctly can be very beneficial. Yeah, I would, I'd give it that ratio. I think 25% are total junk and poison. I think 15, 50% are neutral and just are expensive fillers. And then I think 25% actually really, you know, have some good effects. And I think that the caffeine thing is interesting too. I consume a lot of caffeine. I probably consume like 500 milligrams a day is my. Because I do like 200 in the morning. I do an energy drink in the morning. And then I probably, I, I drink something called matina, which is yerba mate, which to me is like a medicinal because it's the highest antioxidant. So I just think it's good for your body health, brain health, but that those have 120 milligrams each. So I'll have like two of those and then. Yeah, usually that's like 4, 440 to 500, I'd say per day.

[B]

So I would. So I was having, unbeknownst to me, I, I sent Chat GPT, my Starbucks order just to double check how much caffeine was in it. I was having 560mg of caffeine all at once, all in the morning before I ate anything. I would wake up.

[A]

All at once is a lot and.

[B]

Have 560 all at once. So I'm going to tinker. Am I going to stay at One Coffee Forever? No. Maybe I have my 160 milligram coffee in the morning and then in the afternoon I throw on another one if I feel good. But I was doing something very wrong and I didn't realize I had no idea how much caffeine was in what I was drinking. I'm a big volume guy. I didn't get to be this this way for nothing. I love volume. That's why the Trent to iced coffee. I love to just drink it. But I don't know when I started adding shots and when the shots stuck, it was too much. It was too much. So I brought it all the way down.

[A]

But I would say in addition to that, like, and, and you're already exercising, which is great. Is like, I really believe that we have. We wake up every morning with a surplus of energy way more than any of us need for the world in which most of us live in, which is like, you know, nine to five, sitting in our car, sitting at a desk, not doing Good hard work most of the day. Like I think we're just so. We have this surplus of energy and I think we're all oxes and you need to attach yourself to a plow every day. I don't think oxes are overthinking. I don't think oxes are insecure.

[B]

They don't have time. They don't have, they don't have time. I mean we've been watching so much. Speaking of the oxes, planet Earth, David Attenborough. Every night before bed. Sometimes these cheetahs don't eat for two weeks. They're, they're still running 60 miles an hour. We're over here eating breakfast, lunch, dinner, 16 snacks and supplementing and thinking about everything that could possibly go wrong with the day. They're worried about when they're gonna eat next. And they're great.

[A]

They just don't have like, I don't think you have the energy when you're. And like that's why I think getting a strong workout in, in is important. I notice it like three to four nights out of the week, paid, sometimes knocks out early. And so I'll have like this window from 8 to 10 o' clock where I can't really like, I know it's probably going to be junk time because I'm a little too tired to do any work, but I'm, I'm not tired enough to fall asleep yet. And the nights in which I love to. I'll call my buddy Luca. I would call you if it wasn't late on the East Coast. And I'll just walk from like 8 to 9:30. I go and get like, I'll walk to our grocery store which is a mile away and I'll pick up like small necessities. It feels so Parisian. Meanwhile I'm in a, I'm at a fucking Vons, you know, But I'm getting milk and butter, you know, I'm like, who am I walking around with a, with a baguette, 9:30 at night asking to be mugged?

[B]

But you're comaster, you're Joey Commander, freshly back from France.

[A]

The nights that I get an extra five to 10,000 steps at night, I cannot. Like I'm wobbling to the bed at 10 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

Like I'm so wonderfully, I'm relaxed. No doom and gloom, no terrifying thoughts. And I'm just. Because my body is like ready for rest. I depleted the energy source. And I think a lot of people have all this excess energy and they're like, why am I so anxious, I'm like, you got to burn it, babe.

[B]

You're right. You're right. And another New Year's resolution, which I forgot to mention, is from that 8 to 10 time, I will not be scrolling TikTok. I will not do it. I won't. That's why I've been watching Planet Earth. It's so funny. We've spoken at this before, but like that, we've gotten to a place where watching TV is so much less of a dopamine hit than scrolling on TikTok or Instagram that all of a sudden it does feel relaxing, it does feel therapeutic. Going through your phone, where the topic is changing every three seconds or you fall down a rabbit hole and you are just becoming increasingly more and more anxious about something that you never even needed to know about if you never opened your phone, is just a horrific practice that I found myself in for a while where I would. I would be scrolling from 9 to 10, and I'd look up and then I'd go to bed. And that's just no way to go to sleep. Josh, what you just described, that's the dream scenario. The dream scenario is you walk, talk, go to bed, and you go to bed with a heavy head on the pillow, and you wake up feeling like a million bucks. Even though your newborn probably cried through the night. How is he sleeping?

[A]

The wonderful Meyer is a funny sleeper. He sleeps good. We don't have to wake up with him anymore, but we probably put him down between six and seven, and usually he's like, up. He's up for about 30 minutes in the middle of the night at some time, like, you know, might be at 2. Usually, like, if he's up any later than 4 to 4:30, he's up. So, like, this morning, him and I were up at 5am but he'll be up and he's not crying, but he'll just kind of call out and he'll look around and. And to, you know, we're up at one listening to him, but he puts himself back to bed.

[B]

How about.

[A]

How about Rubes?

[B]

That's good. Rubes is. Rubes is grooving ribs is in a good groove. We had, like, a little period where he. He just, like, he started to flip onto his stomach and he didn't know how to get back, so that would, like, interrupt it a little. But this. This boy is sleeping like a rock. Straight through the night.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

Straight through the night. Very little naps. Very little naps, though, which I think is rare for kids. Of his age, he's only napping two total hours and he sleeps like a rock at night and he's very happy during the day. And dh, thank God. He is just like the best thing ever.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

Best thing ever. He's great.

[A]

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. I think this will make you happy. Maybe you won't like the way I phrase it, but I know it'll make you happy. Here's my. Here's my.

[B]

And I like the warning, I like the wording.

[A]

Here's my New Year's resolution, which I usually. My only New Year's resolution has only ever been for more rain. I really like rain. And that's it. And it's more of the same move to Seattle that I cannot do, that I'm. That I won't do. But I always. Because it also feels to me like less aspirational. My. My sponsor always says better to have aims than goals. You know, goals sounds like this big all encompassing thing. Like just aim. See, I'm aiming towards this and we'll see if I get close. And whereas, yeah, I like that goals can be a little bit like a resentment waiting to happen because it's an expectation. It can be an expectation when. When sort of negative. So. But I do I have a New Year's resolution because usually mine is just more of the same because I feel very overpaid and very lucky. My New Year's resolution is coming up on 40 in November. I'll be 40 years old and thank God I've got a beautiful family. I've got a wonderful podcast co host. I'm truly overpaid. Got a little bit of, you know, I've got financial security, thank God, and health. My goal this year is to fail big. And by that I mean I want to really try something, assuming it's going to fail, but being okay with that because I play it really safe and I play everything close to the vest, as you and Nick told me. And you're right, like I can be a little pessimistic and I think going into something going, this is a huge leap. I'm going to try this. You know, whether it's creatively in my work, we'll figure it out. It probably will be. And like if I fail big, that was the goal. But if somehow it wins, even better. What do you think?

[B]

I think that at first I was going to tell you that I want you to restructure the way that you're thinking because whatever you're going to do, you're going to, you're going to win. You're going to win. But, but the way that you phrased it at the end, if that's what makes you more comfortable that the goal was failing and if you win, that's great, that's fine. I just don't want you to manifest a loss, that's all. It's real. The power of manifestation is real. People think that it's quirky, that it's voodoo. I'm not telling you that we're sitting in front of a witch's brew. That's not what manifesting is. It's actually what you just said that your sponsor said, which is not saying goals, it's aiming. It's picking a direction and knowing that you're going in that direction. I love you taking a big risk, but I would prefer you not to have any expectation on it at all. You. It's not you're expecting to lose. It's not you're expecting to win. It's becoming so comfortable in just whatever is going to happen, is going to happen. But I'm just focusing on doing it right like that. That to me would be a better frame. I just don't want you to chase it into the ground because we can do that. We're self saboteurs by nature. Like, we just, we think something's too challenging and all of a sudden we don't realize that we just. It's like every diet I've ever done in my life, like, all that I say is that I want to eat healthy. And every single day I eat worse and worse.

[A]

Right?

[B]

It's like we're self saboteurs. I don't know what it is, but I love it for you. And whatever you're gonna do, whatever happens, it's a, it's a great one. It's a great one. It's not that scary. Once you do it, I think you become like, addicted to trying. Like, it's, it's fun to try. And then you'll find like, what you're gonna try next. What are you gonna try doing?

[A]

Painting.

[B]

You should, you should paint.

[A]

No, it'll probably be something with like making my own thing maybe, you know, within reason, self financing. A little thing, even if it's just a little short, something within my.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

My, you know, something like, I'm not going crazy crazy, but it's just about like, because, you know, of course you think about it 10 steps down the road, which is like, shorts don't make any money and who cares? And it'll probably just be like, okay and great. I put, you know, 10 or 20 grand into a thing and it just was like a failed exercise. But, you know, the, the reality is, is that I'm good. Like we're good. And I think that's the byproduct of living well is a good life. Knock wood. And so I think the only trap can be holding on to the good. You know, just saying I don't want to disrupt this good in any way. And it's like, no, my structure is good, my foundation is good. If I want to go out here and try a little something, I should. The time is now.

[B]

Your structure's good. And for somebody so financially stable, we have opposite problems. I spend way too much money. I think you'd agree that you're a little tighter to the chest than me. Sure you'd like to be? Yeah, admittingly. So. So the idea that like, okay, you're going to invest a little money into self financing a fun creative project for yourself. It's. I probably spent that on dinners. I don't know, like, it's not like. Or like somebody spent it on getting a car that they're remodeling or it's just a passion project. You're allowed to spend money on passion projects.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, and I know where it comes from deeply. But just think about it as that like every year you're allowed to spend money on passion projects. It doesn't have to be returned. Like, that's not a passion project, that's a business.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, if it's a passion project, the money is spent on your passion. If it's a business, then you're looking to recoup your investment. You're like, oh, shorts won't make any money, blah, blah, blah. But no, it's passion.

[A]

But my passion is making money.

[B]

Well then we should probably figure it out.

[A]

But that's a part of it, I think. You know, there's, there's a famous. Pixar is known for this where they will literally make a movie and stop it halfway through. Like, they will create a movie that they're working on. When they, when you talk about the real marquee products, there's their projects that have lasting power forever. They will spend seven months and tens of millions of dollars making the whole thing. Because as we know, how many times have we done something? And then you finally finish it and you go, I, of course here were clearly the five things I could have done better, but I just couldn't see it in the preparation. I Had to execute it poorly to know where I needed to be better. And Pixar is like, yes, we'll kill 20 million doing that. Like, to get the best version of this movie.

[B]

I mean, you have to. I can't say what it is, but I can tell you that Spritz Society is launching a product in March. Josh. That it's like, why wasn't this our first product? Like, we had to go through. Not to say that the ones that we've launched weren't great by comparison. It's so obvious. And that's the same equivalent, like, we spent a lot of money, like, building these products and selling these products. And sometimes it really does take, in this case five years and a lot of learning to figure out what works and what doesn't work so that you can. Then that Pixar example, it makes a ton of sense. Like, you gotta. You gotta play to see what works.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Otherwise you're. Otherwise you're not improving. You're just like doing the same thing over and over again.

[A]

Well, we had so much to catch up on. I feel like we didn't do any topical stories, so. Should we.

[B]

Yeah, why not? Maduro? No. Anything?

[A]

Well, there was. The Critics Choice Awards were Sunday night and Big Timmy Chalamet won big, big with his girl. Which one is he dating? He's with the wonderful Kylie. Kylie Jenner.

[B]

Kylie, Kylie. Kylie Jenner. Kylie Jenner.

[A]

Critics Choice Awards 2026 Best dressed celebrities Chase Infinity. Ariana Grande and more. I guess these were some of the wonderfully looking people from. I feel like we're doing a bad toe. Strip off. This is the worst. I hate this. Michael B. Jordan looked great. Teyana Taylor incredible. Leighton Meester Random. No, late Meester's awesome. Like. Yeah. What did you see? Marty McFly. What's it called?

[B]

I love the so much. I didn't see Marty McFly.

[A]

I think it was called Marty Supreme.

[B]

Called Marty McFly. Marty Supreme. I didn't see Marty Supreme. I heard a lot about it. This, like, indie film that, like, clearly wasn't indie. There's not a ton of money on that.

[A]

The budget was $70 million. Not. It's not an exactly exact.

[B]

No, no, not an indie. Did it recoup that? Like, did it do well?

[A]

It's such.

[B]

I thought I heard it did terribly.

[A]

I think it did fine. I mean, Chalamet is a clearly a movie star and what an actor. I'm.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

He's brilliant and. And I give him all the flowers. I like him very much, but same thing. With one battle after another, which I don't know if you saw that, but it. It is no joke. Maybe the best movie I've seen in the last decade, but that was $150 million. You know, these are like massive, you know, swings for studios that are more, I don't know, like, they're not your typical blockbusters. So I think people are kind of upset. I think it's great that they're willing to spend a bunch of money on awards season fare instead of like, you know, John Wick 7. Which shout out John Wick. It's just. It's great to have them put good money behind auteurs into.

[B]

Into something creative and new and different. I mean, for so long we were just making the remake. The remake. The remake. So it is great to see new concepts and new movies, especially being backed by such brilliant actors. But no, I haven't seen enough of his stuff. I've seen like one of the Dune movies and then I saw what was the. Bob Dylan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I. I thought he was amazing and I just like. I just like, didn't love the movie, but I thought he was great and.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And obviously Bob Dylan's music is great, but they did a couple of those. Did you see the Springsteen one? I don't know who Springsteen was, but they've been doing that.

[A]

No. And that one was. Was Jeremy.

[B]

Oh, Alan White. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, well, we're topical. I love it.

[A]

I know we're so topical. But like, if you think about.

[B]

I'm trying to do Maduro. Maduro, Maduro. I mean, it's guy.

[A]

Like, there's just so much there. If you think about like Ray.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, first of all, I mean, Jamie Fox's transformation. But it was like this is a kid who was.

[B]

Who.

[A]

Who became blind, like by the time he was 5, became one of our greatest singer songwriters to ever live. Being completely blind. A heroin addict, like, culturally, the impact that he had at this time, like, that's like. I don't think Springsteen, with respect, like, or even Bob Dylan, like, they have a similar size impact, but I don't think dramatically. The story lends itself to, like so much where you're so invested in like life or death stakes.

[B]

Totally. Can we go back to being blind and a heroin addict? How does that work? Is somebody giving somebody giving you the heroin? Like, how do you do that?

[A]

That's pretty funny. You just leave him alone in a room for 30 days? I dry out.

[B]

No, it's just like I. I'm just like, I'M trying to wrap my head around it. You're right. I believe him. I. I guess. But, like, how, like, how do you do that? You can't see the needle. You can't see the spoon. I know too much. You can't see anything. Like, how do you do it?

[A]

I. Yeah, I have no doubt that you can figure out how to inject yourself with it once you have it, but it's in the getting it. So clearly he had. He had a lot of enablers.

[B]

Totally. And, like, why couldn't those enablers be, like, Charlie Sheen's drug dealer and just, like, give him a. Give him just, like a dud? Yeah. Oh, you. Here's your heroin. And it's just not heroin.

[A]

Dilute it with B12.

[B]

Yeah, it's just vitamins. And he becomes jacked.

[A]

And do you know Ray Charles used to figure out if women were hot by how their wrists felt? Like, by how thick their wrists were?

[B]

No, but that. That makes sense. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, Josh. He might think I'm a dainty little woman.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

I. I don't. I don't. I don't work with that test. I have a small little dainty wrist. Look at this. Most guys can't do this, Josh.

[A]

I can too.

[B]

Where they. Where they. Oh, yeah, we're dainty. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, we're beta Ray Charles.

[B]

We're here. We're. We're snacks. We're here for Ray. Yeah, we're here.

[A]

I got a Benny, but you. That would be amazing. You make Ray Charles.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Should we do our what are you nuts?

[B]

We should. In case you forgot or if maybe you're a new listener this year, our what do you. Nuts moments of the week is our gripes with people, places and things both big and tall. As Josh says, whatever's sticking in your craw.

[A]

So true.

[B]

Mine is Christmas themed. Okay. Mine is Christmas. So over Christmas, Ruby had to meet Santa. Okay? We went to a big lunch. Santa was there. We took pictures with Santa. We're waiting in line to see Santa. Okay? Everybody's waiting in line to see Santa. I'm sitting on the side. I'm with Ruby. I whisper to my brother in law. I'm like, go up. You know, there's no line to meet Mrs. Claus. Like, she's right there. Go up. Go meet Mrs. Claus. He goes up to Mrs. Claus. It is just a regular large woman in a red shirt. Complete. What are you nuts? It was so rough, Josh. She had white hair, red shirt, blue Jean. I was 1000% sure this was Mrs. Claus. This is just a large woman in a red shirt. So what are you nuts? You can't, you can't do that. You can't be in line near Santa and dress like that. You can't do that. You can't. What do you got?

[A]

My woody nuts is so at the gym.

[B]

I.

[A]

There's a trainer at the gym and she's like a badass. And we're friendly, we always like, chat. Like sometimes she'll give me like little workout tips. And she's just a beast. She's incredible shape. And so the other day, we happen to be walking in the parking lot at the same time. And she was like, and our gym, my gym is right next to a Costco. And so she's a carrying soy sauce with her. Like just a rogue ass, bottle of soy sauce in her hand. And I'm like, what, do you bring your own sauces? And she goes, actually, she's like, I don't know if you know, Costco's got the best tuna Pokemon in the land. I'm like, you ain't got to sell me on Costco having the best everything. And she goes, and so I'm going to buy it now because it, I use it as meal Prep because for 20 bucks you get like literally four full size portions of tuna poke. So it turns into four meals. It's great. And it's usually my lunch. I was like, oh, amazing. So a couple days pass, I happen to be at Costco. I go, I gotta try the spokey. You know, my little workout trainer, she says it's great. So I get the pokey. And this is fabulous. Tuna pokey. Not a weird bite in the mix. This was like really class a tuna. So the next day we're in the gym in the middle of like the floor of the gym, and she's walking by me and I go, hey, I got the tuna. She looked at me like she had forgotten the conversation and she thought I was making some weird euphemism for her vagina. I don't know. But she was like, what? I was like, got the tuna. And she's like, I was at Costco. And she's like, oh, it's like. Anyway, the pokey was really good. Thanks.

[B]

So what am I nuts, by the way? I'm sorry, what is she nuts? She's nuts. What do you mean? You were just creating a nice moment. You tried the tuna. It was. She's nuts, not you.

[A]

All right, thanks.

[B]

You, by the way, you both, you both need to be careful, okay? I've had mercury poisoning before. We don't know where this big beautiful and I love Costco more than the next sure. This. This big Tuna. If she's eating tuna breakfast, lunch and dinner. She's got to be careful, Josh. She's got to be careful.

[A]

Right.

[B]

If she starts to feel sleepy, don't go to sleep. Don't go to sleep.

[A]

It's like a concussion.

[B]

Might not wake up. Up. Okay. You might not wake up. Okay. Don't do it. You feeling sleepy? Stay up. Don't do it. Don't do it. That is what you do with a concussion. I don't think that has anything to do with mercury poisoning. I'm sure you can sleep. Yeah. Just get checked. Just get checked. Josh.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You should give us five stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips on Instagram and Tick Tock Mondays and Thursdays, folks. Topical season 2026 we will see.

[A]

You want to talk about the critics choice again? Maduro?

[B]

Next time.

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