Guys Gone WILD

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – Episode: Guys Gone WILD

Release Date: May 22, 2025
Host/Authors: Josh Peck (actor & writer) and Ben Soffer (entrepreneur & social media icon)
Description: Hosted by Josh Peck and Ben Soffer, “Good Guys” delivers engaging conversations on a variety of topics every Monday and Thursday. This episode, titled “Guys Gone WILD,” delves into personal anecdotes, parenting challenges, body image insecurities, relationship dynamics, and the complexities of modern dating.

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1. Travel Troubles and Airline Frustrations

Ben Soffer shares his recent experience with flight disruptions, highlighting the frustrations of unexpected schedule changes without adequate communication or support.

• [01:16] Ben: “Why would it still work with my schedule? Who sends a text like that?”

Josh Peck agrees, describing the airline's communication as “a little gaslighty” ([02:19]).

Discussion Points:

• The inconvenience of flight delays and schedule changes.
• Poor communication from airlines regarding disruptions.
• The impact of such changes on personal and professional plans.

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2. Promoting Body Positivity and Addressing Insecurities

The hosts engage in a lighthearted yet meaningful conversation about body image, self-confidence, and the societal pressures men face regarding their appearance.

Josh Peck opens up about his minor insecurities related to gynecomastia and his non-invasive treatments:

• [21:05] Josh: “I feel okay, but look, I got my little tiger stripes. I have my genetically modified belly button created in a lab.”

Ben Soffer discusses his own body image journey and the importance of feeling secure:

• [22:44] Ben: “I really don't give a shit at all. I don't care at all. I think I look great.”

Notable Quotes:

• Ben: “Once the shirt's off, the shirt's off.”
• Josh: “We look great. You know, like, people are so much fatter than us.”

Discussion Points:

• The journey to body confidence and self-acceptance.
• The role of supportive relationships in fostering self-esteem.
• Societal expectations and their impact on men's body image.

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3. Parenting Challenges: Potty Training and Language Development

Josh Peck and Ben Soffer discuss the intricacies of parenting, focusing on potty training and teaching children appropriate language.

Josh Peck shares his struggles with potty training his nearly two-and-a-half-year-old son:

• [15:29] Josh: “I woke him up this morning and I changed him as I do because obviously he sleeps in a diaper... What are you nuts?”

Ben Soffer highlights the importance of consistent discipline:

• [17:54] Ben: “He'll never learn if you do it this way. I'm like, yeah, but it's harder for me.”

Notable Quotes:

• Josh: “If you can keep your kid kind of pure and innocent for as long as possible, I think it's kind of the move.”
• Ben: “Life will knock them down. You don't have to knock them down.”

Discussion Points:

• The balance between discipline and compassion in parenting.
• Strategies for effective potty training.
• Preserving a child’s innocence while preparing them for life’s challenges.

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4. Navigating Open Relationships and Marital Struggles

Listener messages introduce the topic of open relationships, prompting a nuanced discussion on their viability and impact on marriages.

Listener Case 1: Open Marriage Betrayal

• [34:26] Listener: A woman expresses concern over her fiancé’s inappropriate behavior in an open marriage setup, especially after her breast cancer diagnosis.

Ben Soffer advises the listener to prioritize trust and consider ending the relationship:

• [40:29] Ben: “If he can leave him, I would. And you being the daughter of this, be nice to your mom.”

Josh Peck emphasizes the potential emotional wreckage of open relationships:

• [41:11] Josh: “That's what you're putting at risk when you have kids and a family is like the wreckage how messy it can become just because you wanted to be able to sleep with multiple people.”

Listener Case 2: Unusual Relationship Dynamics

• [43:01] Listener Jordan: Questions the appropriateness of spending time with a partner in the bathroom during extended bathroom visits.

Discussion Points:

• The complexities and potential pitfalls of open relationships.
• Emotional trust and fidelity in marriages.
• The impact of personal challenges (e.g., illness) on relationship dynamics.

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5. Modern Dating Challenges: The Shidduch Crisis and Dating Apps

A listener from Israel discusses difficulties in finding a partner, citing the "Shidduch crisis," and critiques the effectiveness of dating apps.

Josh Peck reminisces about the authenticity and excitement of traditional dating:

• [51:24] Josh: “There was some coworkers. And I just was like, well, I gotta. If I'm gonna do it, I gotta do it. And I was like, hi, how are you?”

Ben Soffer notes the transactional nature of dating apps as a barrier to meaningful connections:

• [50:33] Ben: “It used to be a game, right? Like, you had to actually amp yourself up, pump yourself up enough to go and talk to that girl.”

Notable Quotes:

• Josh: “It was more precious and you gave a little bit more, you tried a little bit harder.”
• Ben: “If you could give people a chance, go on a date, see if they make you laugh, and maybe you'll fall in love with them in reverse.”

Discussion Points:

• The decline of traditional courtship rituals in favor of digital interactions.
• The challenges of finding authentic connections in a swipe-driven dating landscape.
• Strategies for overcoming societal and technological barriers in modern dating.

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6. Parenting Perspectives: Teaching Appropriate Language

Josh Peck recounts an incident where his son used the word "boobies" after watching an Australian kid show.

• [18:07] Josh: “I wanted to teach him. Why? It's not really appropriate that we say it, because I know that it's not such a bad word, but if he said it in front of other adults, they would kind of judge it.”

Ben Soffer praises Paige for her strategic approach to normalizing and humanizing body parts to prevent misusage:

• [19:50] Ben: “...she made it normal and serious, he won't use it again.”

Discussion Points:

• Approaches to teaching children appropriate language.
• The balance between openness and discretion in parental guidance.
• The influence of parental modeling on a child’s language and behavior.

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7. Humorous Banter and “What Are You Nuts?” Moments

Throughout the episode, Josh and Ben engage in humorous exchanges, encapsulated in their recurring segment “What are you nuts?” This segment highlights their comedic takes on everyday annoyances and absurdities.

Examples:

• [54:42] Ben: Critiques Delta Airlines’ inflight Wi-Fi announcements.

  • Ben: “What are you nuts? Why do I give a shit what you're working towards...”

• [56:10] Josh: Discusses self-checkout etiquette.

  • Josh: “Imagine that you're a teenager looking for a promotion... What are you nuts?”

Notable Quotes:

• Josh: “It's how easy it is to earn a reputation, even if it doesn't reflect who you really are.”
• Ben: “It has to be fast, otherwise the game can run on 100%.”

Discussion Points:

• Everyday pet peeves and their humorous interpretations.
• The chemistry between hosts in addressing common frustrations.
• The role of humor in discussing relatable topics.

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8. Audience Interaction: Speak Pipe Messages

Listeners contribute their questions and anecdotes, which Josh and Ben address with their signature humor and candidness.

Listener Message 1: Steam Room Etiquette

• [33:30] Listener C: Concerns about a fiancé using the steam room without a towel, making her uncomfortable.

Listener Message 2: Open Relationship Fallout

• [38:26] Listener D: A daughter seeks advice on her mother’s reaction to her father’s infidelity within an open marriage.

Listener Message 3: Shidduch Crisis

• [43:01] Listener E: A 27-year-old from Israel struggles with the pressures of finding a partner amidst a Shidduch crisis.

Discussion Highlights:

• Balancing humor with serious advice.
• Addressing diverse and sometimes unusual listener concerns.
• Fostering a sense of community and shared experiences among listeners.

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9. Final Thoughts and “What Are You Nuts?” Wrap-Up

The hosts conclude the episode with a final round of “What Are You Nuts?” moments, reiterating their comedic take on daily nuisances and encouraging listener engagement.

Examples:

• [56:12] Josh: Critiques self-checkout efficiency.
  • Josh: “Do self checkouts with like 44 items. What are you nuts?”

Closing Remarks:

• Encouragement for listeners to rate and share the podcast.
• Upcoming episodes teased for continued engaging content.

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Conclusion:
In “Guys Gone WILD,” Josh Peck and Ben Soffer navigate a blend of serious and lighthearted topics, offering insights on parenting, relationships, body image, and the pitfalls of modern dating, all while maintaining their trademark humor. The episode underscores the importance of self-improvement, meaningful connections, and maintaining authenticity in an increasingly digital world.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Ben Soffer, [01:16]: “Why would it still work with my schedule? Who sends a text like that?”
• Josh Peck, [21:05]: “We look great. You know, like, people are so much fatter than us.”
• Josh Peck, [18:07]: “I wanted to teach him. Why? It's not really appropriate that we say it...”
• Ben Soffer, [19:50]: “...she made it normal and serious, he won't use it again.”
• Ben Soffer, [54:42]: “What are you nuts? Why do I give a shit what you're working towards...”
• Josh Peck, [56:10]: “Imagine that you're a teenager looking for a promotion... What are you nuts?”

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, introductions, and outros to focus solely on the core content of the episode.

Transcript

[Joshua]

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[Benjamin]

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[Joshua]

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[Benjamin]

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[Joshua]

What are you nuts?

[Benjamin]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Joshua]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of the good.

[Benjamin]

Of the good guys.

[Joshua]

Joshua, Benjamin. They are friends. Joshua, Judy, Benjamin.

[Benjamin]

Joshua.

[Joshua]

Joshua, Benjamin. Benjamin, coming to you. They are friends for now until they have a dispute eventually. Because this podcast gets really big and then they don't want to do a 5050 split. And eventually it comes down to money. It always comes down to money and we ruin everything.

[Benjamin]

Hello. God, that is gorgeous. You know, I. We just need to just like start out every show with a nice little song. If only we had pre recorded a song. What are we, nuts? It's going from song to song. I know.

[Joshua]

We're creative, we're good.

[Benjamin]

We're creative, we're creative, we're great. Josh. Yesterday I was in the great state of South Carolina.

[Joshua]

Lucky.

[Benjamin]

I. I woke up, I was there just for the day. I get on my first flight. We're doing it in and out because no more sleeping. Somewhere Claudia needs me home. Or at that point, if I sleep in a different state, she's going to bug out. So we did the in and out. Josh. I sit on my first flight. It's a Delta flight. My flight home is a United flight. I get a text from United that says, we've moved due to air traffic control issues. We've moved your flight from. It was at 8:18pm to 6am the next day. We hope this still works with your schedule. What are you nuts? Why would it still work with my schedule? Who sends a text like that? Have you ever heard of an airline doing that? It's normally like an apology. It's like, hey, we're so sorry. We had to bump you. You can rebook if you want. Not. We've moved your flight to the next day. We hope that still works with your schedule. Why would it work with my schedule, Josh?

[Joshua]

Yeah, that's a. It's a little gaslighty.

[Benjamin]

I thought it was nuts, that's all. Yeah, so not my woody nuts for later. I have another woody and nuts later. That's a bonus Nuts.

[Joshua]

What did you do, Ben?

[Benjamin]

Me and the great Craig Conover from Southern Charm. We had him on our podcast. Yeah, he's so handsome. I don't know whose muscles are Bigger you or his? Because you guys are both on the bench machine. I know whose are the smallest.

[Joshua]

Craig is crushed. Craig's got those good genetics, let me tell you, Paige, you did him a favor. No, I'm kidding.

[Benjamin]

Craig is crushing it. He's huge. He's handsome. We did a nice meet and greet, Josh, at Harris Teeter. We did a Spritz society meet and greet. 1200 people came. It was wild. I would say 1154 for him, but 50 were there for me.

[Joshua]

Huge.

[Benjamin]

Craig's, his fans are so different. It's amazing. So many old ladies, I couldn't believe it. Like seriously 70 to 80 year old women gawking over him. Huge fans of Southern charm. Also of course younger people. But this is a wide range, 25 to 75. Usually our meet and greets sit 25 to 35. Yeah, we did a nice meet and greet. It was successful, was fantastic. I then, because they canceled my United flight, I booked a one stop home shout out. American Airlines flew from South Carolina to North Carolina. North Carolina, home. Seamless, beautiful. We'll be flying American again.

[Joshua]

I'm guessing you're on an Embraer 1750 plane and. Or a Boeing 737 and or a Airbus 319 sharklets.

[Benjamin]

I think that this was an Airbus.

[Joshua]

A319 or a 320 maybe.

[Benjamin]

It was probably the 19 because there were no TVs. This is the problem with American. Get some damn TVs. OK, I every time I flown American, there's no TVs. Regional flight should have TVs. Josh, your boy sat up front. Nothing that said, thank God I downloaded Monopoly on my phone. Josh.

[Joshua]

Monopoly.

[Benjamin]

I know just Monopoly. I play standard Monopoly. I have the app. It's amazing. Just in case there's no wifi. Love it. I beat the computer twice.

[Joshua]

Tell me you're Jewish without telling me you're Jewish. Wow. Good for you.

[Benjamin]

I love it. It's great. You hop on, you start playing Monopoly and these computers, they're so stupid. They'll land on a space. I'll offer them 200 bucks for, I don't know, Oriental Avenue. Can we still say Orient Avenue? It's in the game. $200 for they $200 for Oriental Avenue and they just paid 100 for it. And they're like, no problem. We'd rather take the cash. Meanwhile, I'm collecting properties. It's fantastic.

[Joshua]

You're playing the long game.

[Benjamin]

When was the last time you played Monopoly?

[Joshua]

When's the last time I play? I play with my son. Although he's at the age where standard Monopoly is a little bit too time consuming. So they have Monopoly junior. We play.

[Benjamin]

That's fun. I did. Did I tell you, Josh, that during COVID I played Monopoly two or three times a week, me and my friends would sit and we would play Monopoly. It is so fun when you actually sit and play a serious game of Monopoly. No cheaters, right? Everybody's there to play. It's a. It's a great game. I love it. Highly recommend.

[Joshua]

I just think you need to keep your dice roll speedy the most.

[Benjamin]

For sure.

[Joshua]

You got it. You move, move, move up. Hit it. Go.

[Benjamin]

Buy it.

[Joshua]

Don't buy it. Keep going.

[Benjamin]

It has to be fast, otherwise the game can run on 100%. Yes. Yes. It needs to be quick. Other games that I really like. What about. I'm trying to think. Is it. I completely lost my train of thought.

[Joshua]

Go. I play chess with Max over dinner, so it gives us something to do because he always wants to watch a show. And I'm like, well, on the days where I'm trying to be a good parent, I'm like, come on, we'll play chess. And he's getting good. It's fun. And we play with a clock. So that's the key, by the way, if you want to teach your kid. Like, I guess it's mostly games like that or checkers or just buy a $20 chess clock from Amazon and then they got. They got to keep it moving or they're going to have to.

[Benjamin]

Otherwise they're going to lose and Josh is going to be upset at them. That's another thing. It's good to. It's good to put light pressure on for speed. Nobody likes a slow chess player. This is no good.

[Joshua]

No. Speed chess is the way.

[Benjamin]

Absolutely. What other games do you guys play?

[Joshua]

Nothing else. I mean, as far as board games go, we play Battleship. We're big trouble, people. We're big. Sorry, folks. We're big Bananagrams. I mean, listen, I'm wealthy.

[Benjamin]

You know what game I love, Josh? You know what I've been playing a lot? Backgammon. Love it. Some call it shayspace. It's fantastic.

[Joshua]

I don't know how to play backgammon, but I know that it goes perfectly with hookah and tea with mint. So I'm down.

[Benjamin]

It does. It does. Absolutely. It is certainly a Persian game, and it is wonderful.

[Joshua]

Yes.

[Benjamin]

I love. I love it. You should teach Mac. They also make gorgeous boards, some of these backgammon boards. They're beautiful.

[Joshua]

So beautiful.

[Benjamin]

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[Joshua]

Where internationally is the first place that you would like to take? Ben Jr. Baruch Hashem when they're here, when your baby's old enough, where's the first place out of the country you'd like to take him?

[Benjamin]

Oh, that's a great question. Probably somewhere like not too far, like a nice beach. Maybe we're going to like a Turks and Caicos or somewhere, somewhere not so crazy. But then I, I would love to take him to Israel. Love to, but he needs to be older. He needs to be able to appreciate it. I don't need a 12 hour flight for somebody that can't appreciate it. So Turks, four hours, three and a half hours. He'll love the beach. Has Max been out of the country? Oh, I guess Vancouver. Besides Vancouver, has Max been out of the country?

[Joshua]

Can I interest you in Ottawa? No, I'm bullish on Canada. Has he been out of the country? No, that's it. Vancouver.

[Benjamin]

I'm not dying to bring him out of the country. I'm not going to lie.

[Joshua]

What?

[Benjamin]

Like until he's. I don't know. What do you think is the right age?

[Joshua]

8.

[Benjamin]

I feel like 8 years old is the right age to start to go on like real trips.

[Joshua]

I mean Max is at the age now. We have flown, we've taken A four and a half hour flight. And he was perfect. I mean he had his iPad, he enjoyed the meal, he watched a show, he was crushing it. So. And that was right around five years old. So I feel like at five on and it's cool, it's cool to see my experiences is that by the time I was like 30 or 31, everything sucked. Like, you know, nothing lived up to the hype anymore. And I had done and experienced most things where I was like meh. And now getting to re. Experience those exact same things through your kids eyes makes it as great or better than it ever was.

[Benjamin]

Oh, I can't wait. Honestly that I think that single sound bite got me more excited to be a father than anything else. Because I can 100% relate to things that were really exciting have just become completely mundane. I was even thinking this the other night. Like I'm. I'm such a die hard Knicks fan, you know, I love them so much. But because of this, it's, it's gonna sound terrible, but like I can't go unless I'm in great seats. And like that sucks. But like if I'm taking somebody to a Nick game for their first time. I used to love sitting anywhere. Just like being in the Garden, meeting a player. Like I remember I would leave the Garden, I'd stand out of four pen with my dad and we would wait for the players to come out. And catching a glimpse of Alan Houston was the greatest day of my life. You know, like being able to relive those little things. Sounds unbelievable. How exciting.

[Joshua]

Even the mundane things like going to a Dick's Sporting Goods, like, yeah, this is when I. The way my son lights up. Like renting a car. Like when I rented a Kia Soul with my son and my son said, I've always wanted you to get this car, dad, but I was afraid it was too expensive. And I'm like, kid, we can get two.

[Benjamin]

It's all of this innocence. It's amazing.

[Joshua]

Yeah, man. And God, it's such a great thing. It's a great thing when a kid isn't jaded. Cause it's so easy to become jaded young. And it's so great when you do your best to. I don't think you want to insulate your kids from struggle necessarily or from some of the realities of what the world is like. Because I do think the parents, General Thomas Lennon, the great Thomas Lennon from Reno 911 and genius comedian was like, you know, we have a whole generation of people that never got told, hey, Knock it off. Right? Because we, like, we coddled a certain generation with such like, perfect, soft handling that they were never told by a older person. Just like, that's unacceptable. Like, which I think would serve them. But that being said, like, if you can keep your kid kind of pure and innocent for as long as possible, I think it's kind of the move.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joshua]

Because life will. Life. You know what I mean?

[Benjamin]

Yeah, yeah. Life will knock them down. You don't have to knock them down.

[Joshua]

Yeah, I think it's it. I really like that I have a 6 year old kid who's, you know, stoked on the things that are uniquely young and. And certain things. I remember there was like, I asked his mom, my wife Paige.

[Benjamin]

I was gonna say it sounded like you have a divorcee.

[Joshua]

It does.

[Benjamin]

But you.

[Joshua]

It is like, it's weird. It'll be interesting to see how you and Claudia do it, because I find myself. I defer to Paige a lot because I believe that her instincts on rearing kids are better than mine in most cases. So I am her top lieutenant. But we're really going by her game plan, which I think is important. I think, well, Claudia.

[Benjamin]

Claudia and Paige are similar. And me and you are similar. I definitely fear. I see it with Romeo or I've seen it with Theo. Like, if it wasn't for Claudia saying, no, we need to put him in the crate so he learns not to bark, I would raise terrible dogs. You know, like, and similarly with children, like, sometimes they need to be told, no, I'm. I'm not good at that at all. And maybe, maybe Claudia's just good with it because it's a dog. Maybe it'll be a lot harder with a child. But she's just, she, she. She sees a step further than me. I see this moment, right? And this moment I want to make as great as possible, which involves less discipline. She sees the next time being better because we disciplined this time. So which I feel like, is Paige, is it not def.

[Joshua]

Oh, the bigger picture of it, dude, it happened this morning because we're potty training shy. But, you know, he had an accident at the park yesterday and he's still, you know, he's kind of newly two. Well, I shouldn't say that. He's almost two and a half. So this is about the time you would do it. But I'm like, ah, come on. You know, we got a long Runway till three. But this morning when I got. Now he's been walking around in underwear to get used to it. And I Woke him up this morning and I changed him as I do because obviously he sleeps in a diaper. And I just put a new diaper on him. And PE looked at me like, what are you doing? And I was like, ah, it's a morning. What are you nuts? Like, come on, you know. I was like, he. He boo boos in the morning. Gross. Like, come on, what are you, nuts? And she's like, josh, you're messing up what I'm doing. Like, yeah, obviously this sucks and he's gonna have accidents, but it's like, he'll never learn if you do it this way. I'm like, yeah, but it's harder for me.

[Benjamin]

Yes, exactly, exactly.

[Joshua]

But the.

[Benjamin]

We're so lucky.

[Joshua]

We are so lucky. And like the other day, my son was watching a show, and it was like a kid show on Netflix, but they said the word boobies. And I'm like, huh?

[Benjamin]

And.

[Joshua]

I was like, it was this Australian kid show. And I'm like, oh, you Aussies. It's crazy. It's a. It's a continent full of criminals. But I. It's true. That's where they went. That's where they put them. But I was like, all right, what do I do here? Because normally I would just be like, hey, don't say that word. I didn't even know if he knew what it was, but I, like, brought him upstairs and I was like, mom, Max heard a word and I wanted to teach him. Why? It's not really appropriate that we say it, because I know that it's not that it's such a bad word, but if he said it in front of other adults, they would kind of. They would judge it.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, they'd be like, who's saying boobies in the home?

[Joshua]

Right? And it's a silly word, right?

[Benjamin]

So it is for sure. Boobies.

[Joshua]

Yeah, boobies. It's fun.

[Benjamin]

It's a nice word. It wouldn't be the worst word now if Max is walking around yelling, tits.

[Joshua]

Right? Jugs.

[Benjamin]

Bad.

[Joshua]

Very bad. My wife. My wife goes, you know, that's like a fun. A silly name for like. And my sister in law, Blake, has a baby, Gus. And so she said something to the effect of like, you know how Blake feeds Gus, and immediately, like, she brought it down to, like a term that's like. I don't know, it, like, really, like, humanized it and it took kind of the novelty out of it and just like, that's a funny name for what Blake has on her body that helps feed Gus. And suddenly it's like, oh, well, it's like it's not a novelty anymore. It's just like, oh, okay. That makes you know, it's just a human. Okay. I understand. It's part of the human anatomy.

[Benjamin]

And because she made it normal and serious, he won't use it again.

[Joshua]

Right?

[Benjamin]

He won't use it in a weird context. If you had said, oh, it's a funny word for breasts, then he would have made it funny and used it. Genius. Paige is a genius.

[Joshua]

How did she think of that? So smart.

[Benjamin]

It's really smart. Really smart. Cause I definitely would have said, oh, it's just a. It's just a playful word for. I probably would have said like my breasts. Right.

[Joshua]

And then their sizes. Like your daddy Josh has a B cup. Depending on where he's at, weight wise.

[Benjamin]

Yeah. Yeah. And Uncle Ben's strictly at a C.

[Joshua]

And Uncle Ben is at a full C. But they're. They're perky.

[Benjamin]

They're perky. He's proud of them.

[Joshua]

Yes. Although I will say for my slight insecurity of gynecomastia, I've been going to. What's it called? It's called Beauty Lounge Med Spa, which they're some of the best. They really serve some of the greater influencers in the greater influencer area. And Celebrity Nurse V, she's the best.

[Benjamin]

You're not going to end up. I didn't respond to you over DMs. I wanted to talk about it. You're not going to end up on botched.

[Joshua]

Right.

[Benjamin]

Like, I want to make sure that we're not doing anything too much.

[Joshua]

I don't do anything. I do really non invasive. Right. So they have this thing called softwave, which is like a tightening thing. And they've been doing it on my chest. I think it's working, dear. I'm about to start wearing white again.

[Benjamin]

You think it's tightening your chest?

[Joshua]

Yeah, it's basically like it heats up the tissue under the initial layer of the skin to promote collagen and to make things to promote. Promote elasticity. And people do it on their face. But you can do it on your body too. All I do is that and I do like a laser to get off any, like pre cancers or sunspots.

[Benjamin]

Sounds good to me.

[Joshua]

No downtime.

[Benjamin]

I approve.

[Joshua]

And they give me whipped while I'm doing it. It's called nitrous oxide.

[Benjamin]

Sounds amazing. I'm in.

[Joshua]

But yeah, I mean, shout out. I'm like, I'm getting excited because what I have you can't really fix you can fix it with surgery, but there's an extreme scar, which is almost worse.

[Benjamin]

Yeah.

[Joshua]

Yeah, so.

[Benjamin]

But it's working. Okay, that's good. Did you ever have lopsided breasts? One was obviously bigger than the other, right? Do you remember which one was bigger?

[Joshua]

Yes, absolutely. It's still the right.

[Benjamin]

Maya. My right is bigger.

[Joshua]

Why do you think it's. Because we're. It's the dominant side.

[Benjamin]

I'm not sure. But my right breast, like, right now, I'm sure. If you look in the video, my left is. It's. It's in a good place. I'm in a good place weight wise, where I don't really have tits. Like, they're. They're a little bit mellower, but my right is still. You could get, like, a nice squeeze on the right. The left there, it's more of a pinch. And the more weight I gain, the right is significantly larger than the left.

[Joshua]

Can I tell you something that I am. I look up to you about.

[Benjamin]

Tell me.

[Joshua]

And I'd love to know the way your brain computes it, because I only see through my own eyes. You are. There's videos of you in underwear on Claudia's social media stretching out her dress for her. Beautiful. The perfect husband. And I think your body's fucking cute. Like, you're not a bear, but you're an otter. You know what I mean?

[Benjamin]

Yes. Yes, I do.

[Joshua]

Yeah, you're perfect. You're all man. But to your point, you want to lose a couple more lbs. And. And yet you feel like knowing your body's gonna be just an underwear on social media, does it not? Like, is there not a wave of fear or insecurity? Like, you just feel confident, which you should. I just. I don't know from that.

[Benjamin]

It's a good. It's a good question. It definitely took me. It took me a long time to feel like that. My wife makes me feel like that, though. Like, I'm very secure in my relationship, so I don't care. Like, I'm losing weight only because I love the way that I look in clothing better when I'm skinnier and maybe because I'm a little bit healthier, but shirt off, it doesn't matter to me. Once the shirt's off, the shirt's off, you know? And my wife definitely makes me feel very secure. And I also. I think the biggest thing is I really. I really don't give a shit at all. I don't care at all. Like, I think I look great. Hopefully you think you. I look Great. If you don't think I look great. I'm married and I don't care. Like, you know, like, it's not like there's no. There just, like, isn't necessarily a reason to care. But it took me a while to feel that way for sure. And, yeah, I'm just happy and confident and I like being silly. That's the me in my underwear.

[Joshua]

But I loved it. I mean, I did find it weird that Olivia made it the background on her phone, but to each their own. And if you go to, like, a pool or the beach or whatever and you, like, throw your shirt off, there's never a second thought. Not that there should be.

[Benjamin]

No, no, no, no. There used to be. Now there's nothing. How cool. There's absolutely nothing.

[Joshua]

What a gift.

[Benjamin]

I think it also came from when I started to hike up my undies, hike up my bathing suits. Like, I'm not wearing bathing suits below the belly. I'm not, like, not on a carnival cruise. Like, I'm wearing a size extra, and I'm sort of tucking things the way that they should be tucked. By far what I've historically been most self conscious about. Honestly, this is really what it is, Josh. I've been most self conscious about love handles and saggy belly. Right this upper part of me, my stomach, like, my legs. Like, that's never, ever been a cause of insecurity. I would feel incredibly insecure if I was wearing a very small bathing suit that didn't allow for it to sort of hide some of the things that I feel less good about.

[Joshua]

Gotcha.

[Benjamin]

And if you notice in that Instagram, my undies were definitely hiked. Like, you didn't see my love handles just, like, pouring out or the. Or my stomach pouring over. So I think that's it. Also, I. I've gotten to a place where I'm. I'm comfortable as long as those things are taken care of.

[Joshua]

Good for you. I've got.

[Benjamin]

You should be, too. I don't even know what you're. I. I mean, I shouldn't say it like that because I understand it, but. But like, really, you really shouldn't feel that way.

[Joshua]

I. Look, I've got. Here, I'll let me hike up mine a little bit before I show off. But, like, look, I feel okay, but look, I got my little tiger stripes. I have my genetically modified belly button created in a lab.

[Benjamin]

But you. But you look. You look great. Look at. Look at me. Like. Yeah, you look great. By the way, if you're not watching on YouTube you can literally see my whole belly. You should be like, I think you look great. We look great. You know, like, people are so much fatter than us.

[Joshua]

So much fatter. You know what? Every time we feel insecure, we should book a cruise.

[Benjamin]

I feel so fat. I'm sure you feel fat, too. We're really not. You're not fat at all. I'm really not that fat. There are so many people that are so fat. These fucking fatties. They should be self conscious. Just kidding.

[Joshua]

You know what?

[Benjamin]

They should never.

[Joshua]

They should start putting Ozempic in the water of cruise ships.

[Benjamin]

Yes.

[Joshua]

Right.

[Benjamin]

Yes.

[Joshua]

And then when people get off, they're gonna go, did you notice you lost a couple pounds? And be like, yeah, you know, this is the first time I ever got off of a boat. Not 20 pounds heavier. And they'll be like, we've been spiking the water with GLP1 agonists.

[Benjamin]

And, Josh, you know how much money they'd save on food.

[Joshua]

Yes.

[Benjamin]

They put out a fourth of the.

[Joshua]

Buffet and just the water they use for toilet flushing.

[Benjamin]

Yes.

[Joshua]

You know, yes, Josh, yes.

[Benjamin]

Of course. I'm honestly in favor of an actual injection. When you get on the cruise, you hand in your ticket, they shoot you in the arm, and you go on your merry way.

[Joshua]

I think it would be fun. You turn it into a game. You don't know when it's going to come. And the staff has blow darts.

[Benjamin]

Yes.

[Joshua]

You know, you're at the baccarat table, all of a sudden Rick gets one right in the neck.

[Benjamin]

Yeah.

[Joshua]

Hit me.

[Benjamin]

And you see Mary about to get on a slide that she shouldn't be on.

[Joshua]

Yeah.

[Benjamin]

Neck.

[Joshua]

You know, I saw Tyrone at the soft serve, hit him with two, you know. Yeah.

[Benjamin]

He needed it.

[Joshua]

Yeah. I'm telling you, bro, I think instead of fluoride, we switch out fluoride for sedatives and GLP1s. The entire country would be happier.

[Benjamin]

They would be.

[Joshua]

Can you imagine that?

[Benjamin]

Honestly? That's genius, Josh.

[Joshua]

I know.

[Benjamin]

That's. That's genius.

[Joshua]

I know. Or so I said it.

[Benjamin]

Or maybe even a little. What about some, like, vitamin B, vitamin D? Why can't we put vitamin D in the water? Aren't we all vitamin D deficient?

[Joshua]

I'll even w. Triple you this. What if every major coffee chain just started serving decaf and didn't tell anyone?

[Benjamin]

I would love to know what would happen to people. What I thought you were going to say is, what if every single major coffee company started putting vitamin D, vitamin B, some stuff in the Coffee? You wouldn't even know.

[Joshua]

Yeah, but I'm telling you this. I told you the catering secret that all my friends who work for catering. Well, not what, who am I telling? The son of a caterer. But does your dad do this?

[Benjamin]

Because I've heard that with, with bottles of alcohol.

[Joshua]

No, I've heard that any kind of dinner where it's being catered or you're at a ballroom, whatever, bar mitzvah wedding, that when the desserts come out and they offer you coffee and they say, would you like decaf or regular? It's really all decaf. Cuz A, they want you to go home and B, they don't want to take a risk that someone has a heart condition and they poured the wrong cup.

[Benjamin]

No, my dad definitely serves regular coffee. If he's offering up regular coffee, it's regular. But that is an interesting. That's very interesting. I've never understood why I would ever want coffee at 10:30 at night. Do you understand those people? Like people who order an espresso after dinner, like, what are you doing? If I have an espresso after dinner, I'm up until 4 in the morning and my week is ruined.

[Joshua]

I guess the idea is if you finish dinner at 8 and then you're going to go out till midnight or one.

[Benjamin]

But maybe yes, if you're going out for sure. But like I've seen people there at an Italian restaurant, they say, you want an espresso? They're like, sure. And then they go home like, what are you nuts? What are you doing?

[Joshua]

It's.

[Benjamin]

It's pretty hard as a d. Just Steve.

[Joshua]

I guess that. And I will say that dessert is just better with a little coffee. But do decaf.

[Benjamin]

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[Joshua]

Should we get to some speak pipes? Yes, if you want to leave us a message, get some advice from us. You have a question? Go to speakpipe.com goodguys. Keep it brief. Brevity is key. I can't stress that enough and make it questions or advice and nothing else here. Let's hear from Gemma. Let's hear from Ju Ju.

[Benjamin]

Ju.

[Joshua]

Darn it. I lost it. Hold on. This is my fault, not Samsung's. Okay, the first one is from Anonymous.

[C]

Hey, good guys. Huge moron. Huge toaster. I just wanna let you know that My fiance and I have a joint lifetime membership, and we both go to the sauna and the steam room after we work out. I wear a sports bra and shorts. He wears apparently nothing. He goes with his best friend, and I asked him what he wears in the steam room, and he said nothing. I said, do you have a towel over him? And he kind of hesitated. And I'm wondering if it is weird to go with your best friend into a steam room with nothing on. How do you have the towel? Do you have it wrapped around your waist? Do you have it open? He said, the steam, you can't see anything. I am so weirded out. And ever since I told him, he's very self conscious about this. Please let me know. I love y' all. Thank you.

[Benjamin]

I'm floored. I'm completely floored. First of all, let's. Let's take a step back, Josh.

[Joshua]

Okay.

[Benjamin]

What is a joint lifetime membership?

[Joshua]

A lifetime fitness.

[Benjamin]

Lifetime fitness. But you can pay. There's a couple's fee.

[Joshua]

They have that at a lot of gyms. Or a family fee.

[Benjamin]

Oh, I had no idea. Okay, I gotta look into that next. I in the Schwitz. Unless I'm doing, like, we're at the Live Method. We're cold plunging, we're saunaing, we're steaming, then I'm wearing a bathing suit because I'm going actively from pools, etc. Otherwise, if I got a massage or something and I'm going into the steam room, I'm going in with nothing but a towel. But that towel is remaining around me the entire time. And you can be sure that that towel is tucked well above my belly button so that I feel incredibly secure and safe. The idea of sitting naked ass naked in a steam room next to somebody who's also ass naked is gay.

[Joshua]

It's true.

[Benjamin]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Joshua]

It's inviting something that you. That you either want or don't want.

[Benjamin]

Yeah. If I was in there naked next to my wife, it would be straight and I would want to have sex. So if you're doing it next to your other male counterpart, it's gay. Like, I don't. What else is it?

[Joshua]

It's so funny you say that, because I remember once Paige and I went to a contrast therapy place where it's private and you have, you know, an infrared sauna for, like, you know, it could hold up to four people, so it's not huge. And a cold plunge and you rent out the room for an hour, two hours. So we went together and at first I think she had, like a bathing suit on. And I said, I'm your husband. And I'm like, don't wear that. And then we're like, both naked in there, and of course I'm like, incredibly turned on. And I, like, just kind of, like, gave her a look and she was like, are you nuts? Like, I couldn't feel any less attractive than, like, sweating like a pig next to you. And I'm like, cool, cool, cool. Same, same.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, me too.

[Joshua]

For sure. I'll just put this thing away. I'll just get in the cold plunge now and let it go back in my body.

[Benjamin]

It's funny.

[Joshua]

Olivia. No, no comment.

[Benjamin]

But, yeah, it's incredibly nuts. You should be worried about your husband. It's completely nuts and not normal.

[Joshua]

It's pretty. I agree. I use the Schmitz at Equinox. Shout out Equinox. I love it. They have a lovely sauna and I use it five days a week. And I have a towel wrapped around my waist.

[Benjamin]

Even. Even men that walk around the locker room naked, which is a whole nother level of either self confidence or not giving a shit, they still wear a towel when they go into a steam room, right? I don't. I don't know. I've never. And I am on high alert for what? Are you nuts? Is so. I'm constantly looking everywhere, all the time for things that are insane. I have never, ever, ever seen somebody walk into a steam room without a towel.

[Joshua]

I've certainly seen people in the steam without it, but it's not at Equinox, but at other places, and it's usually.

[Benjamin]

At, like, country clubs. But aren't they sitting on it, Josh?

[Joshua]

Yes, but it's like, mostly it's been.

[Benjamin]

Old guys, sure, but still, they still walked in with the towel, they sat down and maybe it fell off. They're not sitting ass on wood Fair.

[Joshua]

Yes.

[Benjamin]

Yeah. There's funny business going on, lady. There's funny business going on. That's weird. Break it to you, but.

[Joshua]

But shout out your husband. Oh, this.

[Benjamin]

I'm sure he's thrilled. I'm sure he's thrilled. That Speak bite.

[Joshua]

Here's another one coming from Anonymous.

[D]

Hey, Josh and Ben. Huge. Love the pod. To keep a very long story short, my mother got into a open relationship about eight years ago, and they had a deal where he was able to stray while they lived in different states. But it was always supposed to be someone he never knew and didn't have their phone number. So flash forward several years into their relationship. My mother is diagnosed with breast cancer and she finds out that he used his open marriage while they were in the same state. And with somebody who is a family friend, she obviously can't forgive him fully. And so she never stops talking about it. And I've told her to leave him. Do you think she's crazy? Should she leave? She really just never stopped talking about how much she wants to kill this bitch. Any advice? Thanks. I don't know how to handle it anymore. Bye.

[Benjamin]

I think the answer is like pretty obvious, right? The only, the only part of it that's not obvious is that she's older. I'm very sorry that she has breast cancer. Maybe she doesn't want to find somebody else again. Maybe she doesn't want to be alone. Those are the only things that are in my head combating me saying that you should 100% leave the cheating man. Because there is a difference. I think an open relationship personally is very slippery slope. And the fact that you did that already and assumed that throughout the entirety of your relationship that he wasn't doing this, I think is kind of nuts. But let's say that he was faithful in only having one night stands with women from other states that he never got their phone numbers for doing with a family friend while you have breast cancer. It doesn't sound like he's a very good guy to me, so. But if, if he can leave him, I would. And you being the daughter of this, be nice to your mom. She's going through a lot. But at some point, definitely tell her that you should probably find somebody that treats her right.

[Joshua]

But what do you say to when people propose things like this? Like, I totally agree. I don't actually believe that open relationships are possible. Nine out of ten times you have to have the most rare of circumstance. But I do believe that when people are older and they're in their 60s or 70s, they've had kids, they've done it all. The idea that at some point in their life, they look at their partner and go, like, you mind? And the partner goes, do it. We've had a great run. Nothing's gonna change with us. And that to me sounds more. Cause there's not the wreckage that can ensue.

[Benjamin]

Sure.

[Joshua]

To me, that's what you're putting at risk when you have kids and a family is like the wreckage how messy it can become just because you wanted to be able to sleep with multiple people.

[Benjamin]

But I think also the person's feelings, like, I don't know this because I'm not a 70 year old woman. But like I would assume the 70 year old woman still wants to feel beautiful and wants to think that her husband thinks that she's beautiful. And so her husband going to her and saying, you mind if I go and sleep with somebody else? Would imply that he's not getting what he needs. It's a tough situation. But I agree that open relationships obviously don't work and the person proposing them like he just wants to sleep with other people. Like and it's usually him.

[Joshua]

Totally. I guess my only question would be at that age, right. Where like if you have, if you are sick like that, I would imagine the number one thing you want is just someone to take care of you and to be there for you. If there was a world in which he was doing all those things, but every now and then he's hooking up with Flo from down the road. Like do you make. I think people would be more inclined at that age to make an exception because I think it's hard in general to find someone to really take care of you.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, it definitely. Now that you bring it up like that, it definitely does sound like that could be the case. But then she needs to just be comfortable with he's getting what he wants and she's getting what she wants. They're different things. But.

[Joshua]

Right.

[Benjamin]

If her main goal is to have a caretaker, then as long as she's being taken care of, it shouldn't matter. But if she's looking for a faithful husband then or boyfriend or whatever, then she shouldn't be in an open relationship.

[Joshua]

So true. Well, there's nothing open about this relationship. Let's hear from Jordan.

[Benjamin]

Shalom.

[D]

Good guys, it's Jordan from Oklahoma. Hey, wanted to ask a question. One of my co workers brought up the other day that him and his girlfriend don't spend enough time together with their work schedules and he told me that he has a comfy chair in his bathroom for his fiance to sit in while he's taking his shits because he shits for so long and I wanted to get your opinion and see if that was weird or not. To you guys. Thanks so much. Bye.

[Benjamin]

Oh my God.

[Joshua]

I've been excited to share that with you.

[Benjamin]

Oh my God. I don't even know how to react. Yes, it's incredibly strange. I feel bad for the guy because guys typically take long shits because we're scrolling. We don't want to talk to anybody. We're having a nice time. Maybe something will come, maybe something won't. It's nice Peace and quiet. We're on TikTok. We're on Instagram or reading emails, whatever. It's time to yourself. Shitting and talking to somebody while shitting. The ultimate. What are you nuts? That's crazy.

[Joshua]

So I haven't been talking to my sister lately because she. She did it again, and I told her, listen, I'm not gonna talk to dad if you're gonna.

[Benjamin]

Yucky.

[Joshua]

So I'm up for that promotion, right? So they wanted to know if I had leadership quality.

[Benjamin]

It's nuts.

[Joshua]

It's so crazy.

[Benjamin]

That's insane.

[Joshua]

Get your man's Metamucil.

[Benjamin]

No, leave him alone. Let him take a shit in peace. That's not even a stage five clinger. That's a stage 50. You can find time to see each other outside when he needs to take a shit. Okay, like, whatever. Whatever you think is going on, working too hard, you're not prioritizing each other. And you're only fooling yourself if you think that spending time with him while he's taking a dump is going to help your relationship.

[Joshua]

It's yucky.

[Benjamin]

It's yucky.

[Joshua]

It's super yucky. Let's hear from someone else. I really had a good one ready to go. Let's hear from Anonymous.

[D]

Hey, Josh and Ben. Or should I say shalom from Israel. I recently got out of what I would call a serious relationship. I come from a community where eight months is a long time, and I'm finally ready to get back out there and start dating again. And I've found that the Shidduch crisis is real. And I wanted to know what your opinion was on it. I'm on the apps. I've started telling my friends. I've even told all those moms that are into setting people up. Like, I'm really trying to get myself back out there, but seems to be really hard. If it helps, I'm 27, living in Israel, living my best life, and I love it. Yeah. Thanks, Yallabay.

[Benjamin]

For those from Oklahoma, a shitach is a setup. It's Yiddish for setup.

[Joshua]

Like a matchmaker type thing.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, but even like a. You could even make a shitach, though, if you're not a matchmaker. Like, I like, you and Paige are out at a bar. I know both of you. I connect to you. I made a shiddock. That's the. That's what that means. Yeah. I feel like apps. Apps have destroyed. It's impossible. Like, how do you find. How do you find people these days? I don't. I don't have the answer. I think that it's very, very difficult. And especially being. Some might hear, oh, 27, and think, oh, that's incredibly young in the Jewish community. It's really. It's really not like men and women typically, like, you found each other by around that age. And there's unfortunately a lot of stress on women to find a guy, like, before they're 30 and.

[Joshua]

But Ben Mash push back on that. But I would say when you say Jewish. Right. Because there's some sects like that and then there's like the incredibly. I would say, like, coastal liberal Jewish communities. That. That shouldn't even be a thought. That well into your 30s and 40s, you get married, have kids.

[Benjamin]

I don't. So maybe it's. Maybe it's just different. Like, I think that. Olivia, I would love your thoughts. I think that in general and maybe maybe Jewish. Maybe it's. Judaism aside, I think that no matter what religion, for the most part, once a girl reaches the age of 30, if she has any type of slight religious leanings, I think that if you want to have a family, like, the biological clock starts ticking and you're thinking about it, if you're not a family person and that's not for you, than any time or freezing your eggs, all that stuff is an option. But I don't even. The second that I said Jewish, I regretted it because I think in general, girls would prefer to meet their. Their person before the age of 30.

[E]

I think generally that's probably true, but I think there's, like, a guilt associated maybe with not being partnered by that point, but I don't know that it's. I feel like a lot of that, too. If we're talking religion could come from, like, family or the church or, like, how involved you are, because there's, like, certain expectations that people have. And, like, I even noticed, like, back where I'm from, you know, like my hometown, it's more normal for people to, like, get married a little bit younger. Like, a lot of people I went to high school with are already married and have kids. Like, I'm 25, and I don't plan on doing that for, like, a few years, you know, and kids, like, in my 30s is kind of what my plan is. But we'll see what happens. Yeah, I think if anything, it's like, where you're located. Societal pressure, if you are in a church or you're religious, like, that I'm sure adds another layer to it of, you know, be fruitful and multiply. But yeah, I Don't know. I think it's just a really shifting time, and depending on where you are, it makes a difference. But I don't think 27 is, like, old by any means. I know plenty of people who are still, you know, looking for their person, and it just takes time. But, yeah, I think it's more of a societal pressure than an internal one sometimes.

[Benjamin]

Agreed.

[Joshua]

So what do you do? I mean, have apps? Really? Why have apps ruined everything? Is it just because it's so transactional?

[Benjamin]

I think. I think so. That's what it sounds like. Like, you can. It used to. It used to be a. A game, right? Like, it used to be a. There was courting involved. You had to actually. You had to actually amp yourself up, pump yourself up enough to go and talk to that girl. You used to have to stand up and walk over, introduce yourself. Like, all of that has just gone away. And, like, now you can just swipe right on someone or whatever the apps are that people are using now, and you're connected and you didn't have to go through any of that. So. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I think that it's. I think it's very, very hard. And I. And I see it again, maybe it's just specific to New York, but it's. I hear what she said from a lot of New York girls in their late 20s, early 30s, that dating has never been harder.

[Joshua]

Well, to our Israeli listener, Manishma Kobi sera. Yellah habibi. Yeah. I think that there is something uniquely exciting. I remember once I was eating at the sushi restaurant. I was, like, 24 years old, and this girl made eyes at me from across the sushi bar. And I remember asking her what it like, when you, like, smiled at me, what were you thinking? She was like, that this guy's really into his tempura. But we smiled at each other. And I remember I didn't say anything, but, like, we happened to be leaving at the same time. And she was like, there were some coworkers. And I just was like, well, I gotta. If I'm gonna do it, I gotta do it. And I was like, hi, how are you? And we just chatted for a minute, and I got her phone number. We went on a couple dates, but it was like. It was exciting and it took some skin in the game.

[Benjamin]

It's exciting. That's the other. It's endorphins. Josh. Like, do you get. Again, like, I missed the apps.

[Joshua]

Me too. Get.

[Benjamin]

Do you still get endorphins? From them saying yes. Like, do you like, like the idea of walking up to a girl, asking her out and her saying yes? There was no greater feeling in the whole world than having that successful encounter. But now with apps, like, is. Is it. Is it still even. Is that even a thing?

[Joshua]

That's the thing, right? Cause you know that if it doesn't work out, then you're gonna have a hundred other choices, like right there. Whereas if you met a, you know, cute person at the gym or at sushi, like, when did that happen? You know, like, maybe you got two or three of those a month. So you. It. It was more precious and it. You gave a little bit more, you tried a little bit harder. Yeah, crazy. Crazy.

[Benjamin]

Well, yeah. So we have no advice for you, but good luck.

[Joshua]

Try not to be jaded, you know, And I would say, I always say that whenever you're feeling kind of lost, double down on the things that you know are good no matter what and whatever that is. And it's like by being good to yourself and relentless growth, like, what I find is the most attractive are people who are also working on themselves and not in the jerk off y, you know, self centered Instagram way of, like, making themselves the most optimized version of themselves, I mean, is like the number one thing. And I know this is corny, but at 38 years old, I think about if I was ever like, you know, look, if I was looking for someone at this age, what I would care about would be, what are you doing for other people? Like, in your 30s, do you have something that you actively do that is selfless? Because if you don't, we're probably not on the same page.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, yeah, right. I also. It's funny I said that I have no advice, and I don't. I don't mean to say lower your standards. I mean to say change your standards. Because what I've also seen is that a lot of girls say that there are no guys out there, but they also only want to be set up with or meet the perfect looking guy. And it's like, you could also give people a chance, go on a date, see if they make you laugh, and maybe you'll fall in love with them in reverse. So advice would be is go on more dates. But yes, Josh, I agree with being selfless. You don't want to be married to a narcissist.

[Joshua]

Well, not even a narcissist. I just find, like, I guess at our age, I'm getting to this point where it's just like, worldly Things like I've become less interested. I feel like the currency, like the one, the one thing that we pay back to the universe or to God as our cover charge for being alive is what we do for others. And so I think once you get into your 30s, I understand people in their 20s, obviously in their teens and 20s, it's a time to be very self focused. But in your 30s, even if you don't have kids or whatever, it's like what are you doing to get out of yourself? What are you doing for others? Because if it's all about I want to make the best version of me so I can make sure I'm going to Tulum annually, I'm less interested for sure. Should we get to our Woody, Annette?

[Benjamin]

Yes.

[Joshua]

Our what are you nuts? Moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever's sticking in your craw.

[Benjamin]

Ben, after you, I mentioned that I went to South Carolina yesterday and folks, I hopped on the plane Delta flight sitting down and the flight attendant comes on and she says good morning everyone. Here at Delta we are working towards fast free WI fi across all of our planes. Unfortunately you don't have that today. Unfortunately, today you can sign up and pay for WI fi, but rest assured we're working towards fast free WI fi across all of our planes. What are you nuts? Why do I give a shit what you're working towards on other planes if you're still going to charge me 1495 for the flight for by the way, terrible WI fi. It's not only not fast and free, it's expensive and bad. Okay, what are you nuts? Who says that? Why are you updating me on Delta's policy that doesn't include me on this current Delta flight? I don't give a rat's ass.

[Joshua]

It's so true.

[Benjamin]

They love that at Delta. We're working towards fast free wi fi. In 2027 I might be dead. Like, what are you, what are you telling me for?

[Joshua]

It's so true. It could all be over.

[Benjamin]

Yeah, on a Delta, on that flight, literally the plane is crashing and I'm thinking I never got to experience fast free WI fi.

[Joshua]

They never got Starlink.

[Benjamin]

No. Never got it.

[Joshua]

It's so true. It's so, so true. My what are you nuts is checkout etiquette and that means that you have to speed it up. And if you're at self checkout, don't act like this is the first time you've been there. I know it isn't. I want you to imagine that you're a teenager looking for a promotion, okay. That you're working checkout at your local grocery store and you're going bing, bing, bing, bing. Okay, don't look. Oh, Inspector Gadget's trying to find the barcode. It's at the bottom. It's at the bottom. Hasn't changed ever. Just do it, do it, do it. Oh, and by the way, 20 items or less. 10 items or less. If you're self checkouting with like 44 items. What are you, nuts? It has to.

[Benjamin]

It has to be about speed. You're 100% right. Honestly, the. The real Woody and Nuts is somebody going in with over 20 things. Self checkout. Five things. Yeah, five things, quick. One, two, three, four, five. Not multiple bags. It honestly should be. If it fits in one bag, you can use self checkout.

[Joshua]

Right?

[Benjamin]

If you need multiple bags and you're doubling bags, self checkouts are what are you nuts? It's a way that these fricking big companies can steal all our money. You know what else are what are you nuts? Josh? People not giving five stars to this episode is a what are you nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and TikTok, folks, Mondays and Thursdays. We will see you next time. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.