Hot But Bald

Summary

Good Guys – "Hot But Bald" (October 16, 2025)

Episode Overview

On this episode of Good Guys, hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer dive into their comedic takes on health woes (including Ben’s new “cubital tunnel syndrome”), parenting and sleep deprivation, the stress of being honest (and raunchy) in podcasting, and the Jewish rituals around Yom Kippur. They also answer listener dilemmas ranging from wedding logistics to navigating toxic friendships, and reflect on memory, coincidence, and existential “what are you nuts?” moments—all with their trademark blend of sincerity, self-deprecation, and irreverence.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Health Woes: Ben’s "Cubital Tunnel Syndrome" (00:54–04:36)

• Ben updates Josh: after months of waking up with tingling, painful hands at night, he’s diagnosed with cubital tunnel syndrome (an ulnar nerve issue).
• Humorous banter about the romance-killing reality of sleeping in arm splints and joking about surgery and recovery:
  • Ben: “God, if that doesn't affect my sexual performance, I don't know what will.” (01:41)
  • Josh: “I need recovery time from a major surgery... I want a nice 10 day dose of Keflex... Something mild. Norco. We used to call them bananas back in the day.” (04:01)
• Both admit to loving the excuse of surgery and enforced downtime.

2. Parenting Updates: Sleep Schedules and Parenting Struggles (05:08–06:53)

• Ben celebrates his son Ruby being off pacifiers and finally sleeping through the night, only for his own medical issues to ruin his rest.
• Josh shares that his own child is sleeping well, leading to some marital “canoodling”:
  • “We’ve been canoodling around 5am and it’s fucking tits.” (06:53)
  • Ben jokes about Josh’s glow and the embarrassment of sharing too much about personal life on the pod.

3. The Perils of Podcasting and Cancel Culture (07:07–10:41)

• Josh and Ben discuss which jokes are safe for the main show versus their potential (fictional) “gay, naked, accents-on-Patreon” spinoff.
• Concerns about being "too raunchy" or "built for the wrong era."
• Commentary on differing audience reactions between TikTok vs. Instagram.
  • Ben: “Comments on TikTok are terrible, but you go to Instagram and they're totally normal and fine... it's great. That's great.” (10:15)

4. Jewish Life: Yom Kippur and the Break-Fast Meal (19:14–27:49)

• With Yom Kippur approaching, the hosts detail classic break-fast plans: bagels, lox, herring, whitefish, and whether letting all relatives kiss the baby is acceptable.
• Ben questions if traditional food really makes sense after a long fast:
  • “Can you think, Josh, of a worse way to break a 25-hour fast than with that meal?” (20:57)
• They fantasize over legendary NYC food deliveries and reminisce about Junior’s Cheesecake and bagel culture.
• Philosophical reflection on Yom Kippur’s modern meaning, spiritual reset, and individualized approaches to tradition:
  • Ben: “When I was younger, I hated Yom Kippur... Now it's like, OK, I turn off my phone for 25 hours. So it gives me, like, a social media reset. It gives me a food reset... And then I sit there and I really think about the year.” (27:30)

5. Trending Styles: The Bleph Bun (28:47–30:34)

• The “bleph bun” trend—super-tight buns that give a (temporary) facelift—is dissected.
  • Josh: “A bun so taut that it has similar effects to a blepharoplasty... or an eyelid lift.” (29:44)
• The group jokes about the impending hair loss and “traction alopecia” that will inevitably follow.

6. Pop Culture & TV (31:00–33:58)

• Tangents about “Dancing with the Stars” and Ben’s guilt over never watching "The Wackness," Josh’s cult film.
  • Josh: “I made that movie when I was 21... It could not be more for you. It's about 90s New York Yids.” (33:38)
  • Ben promises: “I am watching The Wackness tomorrow. And the next time we talk about this podcast, I will have seen The Wackness.” (34:05)

7. Listener Questions and Advice

A. Wedding Dilemma: First Look or Cocktail Hour? (40:00–44:39)

• Listener is torn between skipping a "first look" with her fiancé or missing cocktail hour for photos.
  • Consensus: Photos are important, but making memories at cocktail hour is prime. Olivia suggests a hybrid—grab candid photos during the cocktail hour itself.

B. Expecting Triplets (45:19–46:59)

• A listener finds out she’s having spontaneous triplets:
  • Ben: “You got to be really, really, really unbelievably happy and feel blessed... it will be really fucking hard, but it's kind of like hitting the lottery.” (45:30)
  • Josh: “Everything is going to get better at the same time. It's okay if your house is a mess... If those three babies are breathing and fed and reasonably happy, A plus.” (47:00)

C. Negative Friend Groups (50:41–55:46)

• Listener laments that all her old friends dwell on their miseries and kill her joy.
  • Ben: “Old friend doesn't necessarily need to mean lifelong friend... Surround yourself with people that make you happy. You can still call them, check in. But yeah, if I had friends that were just like a 100% drain on me, I would not see them the same frequency that I once did.” (51:39)
  • Josh: “As each of these people are going into their tough, hard life, you order something for the table... Spinach artichoke dip as though from the heavens... suddenly, subject changed.” (52:28)

8. Classic Segments: “What Are You, Nuts?” (56:41–59:06)

• Ben rants about being scheduled for a noon medical appointment when the X-ray tech is on lunch—resulting in a comically long wait.
  • “What are you nuts? Why are you scheduling an appointment at noon when your X ray tech goes on lunch at noon?” (56:57)
• Josh offers his own: TV set crew all wearing scrubs on a hospital show so they blend into the background: “Oh, there’s that nurse over there holding a boom microphone... what are you nuts?” (60:02)

9. Existential Corner: Memory & Coincidence (59:12–59:51)

• Josh shares a “fun fact”: “Your brain can generate false memories and you will believe them as real...”
• Closing thought: “A coincidence is just God's way of staying anonymous.” (59:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You always ask me, so how are things? I'm like, they're great. So how are you? How afraid?” – Ben (11:40)
• “Keep the actors British and the writers Yiddish.” – Josh (24:56)
• “The best bagels don't also have the best lox.” – Josh (24:28)
• “If those three souls are alive and breathing and happy, A triple plus.” – Josh, on expecting triplets (47:00)
• “Old friend doesn't necessarily need to mean lifelong friend.” – Ben (51:39)
• “Your brain can generate false memories and you will believe them as real.” – Josh (59:12)
• “A coincidence is just God's way of staying anonymous.” – Josh (59:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:54] – Ben’s cubital tunnel syndrome saga
• [05:08] – Baby sleep updates and marriage moments
• [07:07] – Podcasting, humor, and boundaries in 2025
• [19:14] – Yom Kippur, food rituals, and family traditions
• [28:47] – The “bleph bun” trending look and haircare woes
• [31:00] – "Dancing with the Stars," TV, and "The Wackness"
• [40:00] – Listener: Wedding photo vs. cocktail hour dilemma
• [45:19] – Listener: Pregnancy with spontaneous triplets!
• [50:41] – Listener: Escaping a negative friend group
• [56:41] – “What Are You, Nuts?” rants
• [59:12] – Memory and coincidence reflections

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Tone and Style

The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and deeply conversational, mixing medical complaints with dad humor, anxiety about public life, honest family talk, and a dash of cultural commentary—anchored by a strong undercurrent of Jewish identity, friendship, and the absurdities of millennial adulthood.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t listened, this episode is a perfect sampler of all things Good Guys: Jewish boy banter, neurosis, big-hearted advice, pop culture riffs, and those “What are you, nuts?” everyday life grievances—served hot but always with love.

Transcript

[Olivia]

The following podcast is a dear media production.

[Josh Peck]

Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the Good Guys. A mother's dream premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys.

[Ben Sover]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh Peck]

What are you nuts?

[Ben Sover]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh Peck]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. There's a lot of podcasts out there. There's one called Girls Gone Bible, and ours is called Guys Gone Gay. It's Ben Sover, my co host.

[Ben Sover]

Girls Gone Bible sounds great. I'm in. And by the way, that is 100% our Patreon we are launching. It is going to be gay, gay, gay, gay, gay.

[Josh Peck]

I can't wait.

[Ben Sover]

Finally, Josh, I have three words for you. Cubital tunnel syndrome. Okay, Okay. I just got back from the doctor because I've told you about this before, or if I haven't, I'm going to tell you again over the last, like, couple of months, you know, I'll go to sleep and randomly. 2:00 clock in the morning, I'll wake up, my hands are in pain and they're asleep. And that's not good. That's not good. Whether I'm on my side, whether I'm on my back, whether no matter where I am, I wake up, middle of the night, hands hurt, they're asleep.

[Josh Peck]

I get that, too.

[Ben Sover]

Okay, so you have cubital tunnel syndrome.

[Josh Peck]

No, the fuck I don't.

[Ben Sover]

Yes, you do. Affected by your. I don't. Affected by your ulnar nerve. I went in today, I went to the doctor. I have a. What are you nuts? About the doctor? That I will share later. But I went to the doctor. They did X rays on my hands. The X rays looked perfect. He's like, why don't you come a little closer, bend your arms, tilt your hands and let me know when they fall asleep and where. And I said, they're asleep. Here, here, here, here. He said, cubital tunnel syndrome, Ulnar nerve season. And what he did was he gave me two splints. Ok, So I have to sleep in splints. God, if. If that doesn't affect my sexual performance, I don't know what will. Yeah, no good. No good. Me sleeping in arm splints. And in case I want to do something more drastic, he recommended surgery. So we're going to try pt. I think we do physical therapy. But I just wanted to update you. Cubital tunnel syndrome. It sounds like you have the same Josh. You wake up in the midd of the night, hands in pain and asleep.

[Josh Peck]

Not, not in pain, asleep and is.

[Ben Sover]

That you could be sleeping on your hand though that would be different.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, but sometimes I'll be on my back and I'll just like wake up like T. Rex arms and. But they wake up, then I wake them up and I go back to bed. Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

So that is what it is. Eventually maybe it will be more than that and it'll hurt. Like I wake up and they're in fucking pain and I have to walk around the house until they like wake themselves back up and then I lay down.

[Josh Peck]

You have walk around the house to wake up your arms. You can't wiggle it out.

[Ben Sover]

My g. No, no, no, no. You can't. You can't wiggle it out. I thought you could. I like or my left hand, kind of my right hand. I have to physically stand up. It's a nightmare that I had this beautiful. What a fantastic mid to late 80s Jewish doctor. One of the most gorgeous mustaches you've ever seen in your life. I trusted this man with my life. He looked at me, he said, cubital tunnel syndrome. I said, yeah, it is.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

Fuck yeah. Operate today. Yeah, okay. I want it now. Cubital tunnel syndrome.

[Josh Peck]

It's amazing that I will look at that 80 year old doctor with the utmost trust and belief and I will also look at a nurse practitioner who's three years past her degree and go cut me open, nurse. Like I don't care. I don't care. That's me.

[Ben Sover]

I'm with you. I am pro. Cut me open. Yeah, Any, any excuse to be cut open. Cut me open. Fix it now. I love recovery now. I like say more.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, it checks me out bro. Like I need a hard stop. I need recovery time from a major surgery. I need a nice 10 day dose of Keflex. I'm talking a nice skin antibiotic. Something to fight staff. And I want to be on. I view 600 every six to eight hours and I want to be on a nice something mild. Norco 5 milligrams, 325 acetaminophen. Something cute. We used to call them bananas back in the day because they were cutesy little yellow pills.

[Ben Sover]

I eat them like tiktoks.

[Josh Peck]

So good to be that warm, itchy feeling the best. I want to relapse.

[Ben Sover]

Something mild like a low dose of crack. Just, just like, just small nothing. I also love a recovery. It's fantastic. It's the ultimate comeback story. You know what Ruby's been doing recently? Such a hard tangent. He's been sticking his tongue out like this. So Jordan. My son is Jordan. So Michael. Mj. Mj.

[Josh Peck]

So cool.

[Ben Sover]

Sick. I just thought of that with the comeback story.

[Josh Peck]

How's his binky journey going?

[Ben Sover]

He's off it. He's been, he's been zero passy for almost six weeks. Yeah. And I gotta tell you, Josh, this boy, of course like now that I say it out loud, he'll regress.

[Josh Peck]

Wow.

[Ben Sover]

Has he had a week? He has had a week, Josh. Like 7 to 6:30. Consistent hot. Which is just like when you get, I don't know, a six hour straight. Junk. You know it way better than me. You're in. You're in way deeper. You're a new human. You're fucking superhuman. When you get six straight hours of sleep. Except when your fucking hands wake you up from your ulnar nerve. Cubital tunnel syndrome. That really was what it was. I got my first full night. I'm like, okay, Ruby. Ruby slept like a champ. I was up every hour with my fucking hands. So that's what pushed me to go in. It was like, Ruby's killing it. I'm not killing it, Josh. I'm the opposite of killing it. My son is killing it. I should be killing it too. Yeah, the Ruby's great.

[Josh Peck]

Myers been going to bed at eight and having stretches till four, which is wow, gorgeous. Huge.

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, huge.

[Josh Peck]

And usually like if it's one wake up for the night. If it's more than one wake up, I try to do one of them. If it's only one, I go, Paige, you have my respect.

[Caller/Listener]

And.

[Josh Peck]

I let Paige handle it. But I'll tell you what, I've been waking up at times for the 4am feeding and I don't know what's been happening the last week. And I'm sure I'll shoot myself in the foot with this. But after that we've been canoodling around 5am and it's fucking tits.

[Ben Sover]

Wow, that's amazing. I'm like, who are you? You have a bit of a glow about you. I've noticed.

[Josh Peck]

Oh my God, I wish I did.

[Ben Sover]

This is the problem. We're asking, dear media, do quick turn edits and I can't shut up.

[Josh Peck]

I know, right? Good luck. It's all right. Olivia knows what to cut out. I feel like Olivia has a good like cancel radar. Like the other day we had to turn around and edit super quick and I was like, hey, Olivia just was thinking Maybe we should cut out the part where Ben and I were doing accents and she goes, that was cut out an hour ago.

[Caller/Listener]

Yep.

[Josh Peck]

Thanks, Olivia. Of course. Just, you know, Olivia could do a nice Russian accent.

[Ben Sover]

And by the way, these accents can be found on Patreon. Okay. It's going to be us, gay, naked, doing accents. Josh, this is the. It would be the best. You need it.

[Josh Peck]

I know, but do we. My thought on the Patreon, though is like, are we putting energy into something that's not building the main two episode show?

[Ben Sover]

Totally. It's just like our humor wasn't built for this day and age. Josh. We're too raunchy. We're too raunchy. Our brains go deep and we have to slow down. Horse, slow yourself. The best joke. The best joke is here. It's here, Josh. It can't be here. Can't be here.

[Josh Peck]

So true. So true.

[Ben Sover]

Can't be here. It could be there. Maybe can you do like a release form where it's like, if you subscribe to Patreon, you and everybody you know cannot, will not share it and it cannot, will not lead to a cancellation. Is there some, like, some type of binding document that what you hear stays here?

[Josh Peck]

You would think, yes. In the current world we're living in, where, I don't know if you saw this clip the other day, but Trump was giving a speech and he goes, you know, there's now two n words you can't say.

[Ben Sover]

And everyone goes, oh, my God, what's this? What's the second one?

[Josh Peck]

He goes nuclear. And the other one.

[Ben Sover]

I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, that's insane. That's insane and hysterical. Oh, my God.

[Josh Peck]

Nuts.

[Ben Sover]

But yeah, you'd, you'd think. I don't know. I really don't know. Claudia turned to me the other day, she's like, I saw a bunch of clips of you being nuts. Are you okay? I'm like, we're trying things out.

[Josh Peck]

We were being slightly political.

[Ben Sover]

Yeah. Kimmel and Carlson, she's like, are you okay? I'm like, we're just AP testing. We're just seeing. We're just seeing what's going on.

[Josh Peck]

I mean, it's funny because of course most people liked it. And then, you know, we're a podcast where 90 to 95% of it isn't political. And then here and there we give a hot take and some. And then of course, there was like one or two messages of like, I agree with Josh, I don't agree with Ben. I'm unfollowing or I agree with Ben, I don't agree with Josh. I'm unfollowing. Like, and I was like, listen, dude, this is the problem. If a podcast that is 5% political that you love, you disagree with someone's take that you can't listen anymore. Like, this is exactly what we're talking about.

[Ben Sover]

It's also so interesting, the difference between platforms. Like, she found it on TikTok, and the comments on TikTok are terrible, but you go to Instagram and they're totally normal and fine. Right? It's like on TikTok, like, I don't know. I don't know who, like, a very different audience is seeing our clips on TikTok than is on Instagram, which is also great. Like, that's great. I've always thought, like, oh, are we. Because we. If you don't know, we post the same clips on both.

[Caller/Listener]

So.

[Ben Sover]

So are you seeing the same thing twice? And the answer is, know those folks on TikTok are. Are very different from the ones on Instagram, which is fantastic. But yeah, it's just interesting that, like, one platform is not so, oh, I don't agree with that. I'm leaving. And the other is, I disagree with that. I'm leaving. Which, by the way, was like, one person. It's fine. You can kiss my ass. You can kiss my ass. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, we have hot takes. We're going to give a hot take.

[Josh Peck]

Every now and then. And then 95% of the show is going to be ozempic and juvenile tunnels. Not that Jake Shane needs Ozempic. We need Ozempic. Jake Shane's perfect and I don't know.

[Ben Sover]

And cubital tunnels and Joey Kamasta and ulnar nerves and splints. Food and 4am feeds and canoodling right after.

[Josh Peck]

Fuck, man. I know I shouldn't be sharing that. Can you imagine if you shared that? Claudia wouldn't talk to you for a week? Absolutely.

[Ben Sover]

I didn't say it. You always. You ask me, so how are things? I'm like, they're great. So how are you? How afraid?

[Josh Peck]

Have you gotten an edict or a doctrine from Claudia since the pod came out of, like, less us?

[Ben Sover]

I just know exactly what does and doesn't bother her and I'm not willing to bother her. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.

[Josh Peck]

Fair enough.

[Ben Sover]

Everything is great. She is my clean and that's that on that.

[Josh Peck]

But what about, like, we were talking about our wife's pregnant nipples? Like, that was gold.

[Ben Sover]

Look. Yes, yes. Look, look. There are certain times where the joke is worth the potential roast. Okay, Absolutely. But. So, yeah, if anything, if it's a. If it's joking in nature, for sure we can push those boundaries. Absolutely. I wish that I could. We've spoken about this before. I wish I could milk Ruby. Imagine me just milk coming down my shoulders, throwing my son right on my breast.

[Josh Peck]

Milk coming down your shoulders. Where's the milk coming from? Your ears.

[Ben Sover]

You've never heard Paige say that? It comes down her shoulder. The letdown comes. You feel it from the shoulder? At least Claude does. The letdown comes from up here. Perhaps the milk is being stored right in her right. Her left shoulder blade.

[Caller/Listener]

I've never seen that.

[Josh Peck]

I've never heard that phrase. Neither has Olivia. Olivia's been around. Olivia's from the Midwest.

[Ben Sover]

The let down. Yeah, I was gonna say farmer's daughter. We. We invented it in Cincinnati. The letdown. What, You've never heard the letdown?

[Olivia]

I've heard about, like, the milk coming in and, like, I suppose it comes from above, but the way that you said it made it sound like you were gonna put Ruby on your shoulder and have him suckle.

[Ben Sover]

I don't think it comes from above. He's. He's suckling right on the teeth. But it. The letdown is coming from higher. I think it's coming somewhere in the upper breast. Maybe up here. I agree. It's probably not in the shoulder. It's probably not muscul. Muscular.

[Josh Peck]

Muscular skull created. Isn't it created by the mammary glands?

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Ben Sover]

No clue.

[Josh Peck]

Which is under here. I mean, which would start in the pit region and then make its way.

[Ben Sover]

To come from here. The old bullseye down right into the.

[Josh Peck]

What does ChatGPT say?

[Olivia]

I used Google AI. Sorry. But breast milk is produced in the mammary glands. Loc. In the breasts of women. And I think, yeah, it's coming from, like, right here area, perhaps under the pit, and then kind of pulled forward into the duct.

[Ben Sover]

Interesting. Okay, so maybe it's more of an adjacent feeling than a down. That said, yeah, I wish Ruby would suck on my breast. Josh.

[Josh Peck]

No, no. I. I. My mom. That's an old Barbara Peck joke when people would ask if she breastfed, and she's like, no, I just wanted to be friends. Shout out, mom. But, yeah, I mean, look, everyone's breastfeeding journey is beautiful and perfect exactly the way you do it. We just have mostly done formula, and it makes our life, like, super easy. As far as me being able to Help. So I just shake that bottle up, throw it in his mouth. Oh, man. And when he gives me that. When your baby gives you that good belch, like it's time, like that good belch comes and you go, you're going back to bed, my boy.

[Ben Sover]

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[Josh Peck]

Speaking of the cows coming home. Tomorrow is yum kipper. Or it starts tonight. But it is the day of atonement. And then it ends, as we all know, after a 25 hour fast with a breakfast of all breakfasts. What's yours gonna look like?

[Ben Sover]

So here's what it's going to look like, but then I want to talk about what it should look like.

[Josh Peck]

Okay.

[Ben Sover]

It's going to look like bagels, lox, cream cheese, tuna, whitefish. My apartment. My apartment. Our families are coming. Beautiful. Ruby will be there. He might be asleep. No, he'll go to sleep after. It'll be wonderful.

[Josh Peck]

And are you keeping Ruby? You mentioned this in the other pod, but I don't think we got to it because we were having such technical difficulties with the great fibula. But are you keeping Ruby away or are people allowed to like, like at breakfast? Can people be holding him, passing him.

[Ben Sover]

Around, loving him up, holding him, passing around, loving him up? There is no. Yeah, no, we're. We're trying our best to like make sure that you wash your hands, that you are like, you're not like sneezing all over him. No, we were definitely like family members for sure are holding him and hugging him and kissing him and all that good stuff. Bruce and Ava are right in that neck. Yeah, we're doing bagel lox, cream cheese, whitefish, tuna, herring, and cream for my mom. Probably some sable, thinly sliced onions, cucumbers, tomatoes, you name it. It's fantastic. The reason why I say versus what it should be is because can you think, Josh, of a worse way to break a 25 hour fast than with that meal?

[Josh Peck]

Because it feels like breakfast. It's.

[Ben Sover]

No, it's just like if we were fasting and I know you intermittent fast and I know the purpose of the fast is not health related necessarily, but when you break a fast, the first thing you should be having is a fucking bottle of electrolytes, like an element or something like that. And I think you'd want protein. Otherwise I'm gonna eat 16 bagels, I'm never gonna be full, and then I'm gonna get a huge headache and I'm gonna fall asleep. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that if I ended up breaking my fast with grilled chicken and rice and vegetable, I would just feel much better. It's not tradition, so we won't do it.

[Josh Peck]

But you'd feel better eating that over bagel and lox every time.

[Ben Sover]

That's true, that's true. I guess I just feel specifically like the way that my break fast works. I immediately have a cup of coffee. That's first because I haven't had coffee and I have a raging headache by the end of the day from the caffeine withdrawal. I have a cup of coffee. So all of a sudden it's seven o', clock, I'm having full caffeinated coffee and my brain's like, holy shit, holy shit, holy shit. Where's the bagels? Then I go to the bagels, toast a bagel. I'll go scallion, cream cheese, lox, onions, capers, dill, maybe a thinly sliced tomato fantastic. And then I'll go in the tuna whitefish direction. Second.

[Josh Peck]

I love that. I mean, first of all, I gotta say, like, and I was tempted to do it and then I got on there too early. But you know, we're a big fan of the great goldbelly here who are not a sponsor, but they should be. And they. I was the level of Yom Kippur like spreads and platters that they had. I went on there hungry last night and just wanted to order everything. And then in addition, I wanted to order a Junior's cheesecake and Venero's cannolis so bad. And rainbow cookies, like all things we do not get out here. And a spread of bagels from Essebago.

[Ben Sover]

Oh my God, I need all of that. Junior's cheesecake. I remember this was years ago, probably like six years ago. I was at Junior's with both of my brothers in law, Zach and Zach. And I remember Olivia's husband Zach. Like he was eating the cheesecake. All of a sudden he turned to us and he's like, I wish I could get this. And he lives in the city. He's like, I wish I could have this all the time. I wish there was a way to get it without being in the restaurant. And I turned to him like, have you ever heard of Seamless? Like it's not a gold belly. They're on Seamless. Order yourself a slice of cheesecake.

[Josh Peck]

What is Seamless?

[Ben Sover]

Seamless is like an Uber Eats but for The City or GrubHub. You guys have Grubhub?

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, we do. Doordash mostly. Right?

[Ben Sover]

Doordash, okay. Same thing. It's available. Like it's literally like you, you can go home and get it. He's like, I wish there was A way I could have junior cheesecake at home. I'm like, you can. Like, your wish is my command.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, this is. This is possible.

[Ben Sover]

This is Manhattan in 2020. Whatever. But, yeah, Junior's cheesecake fucks God. Is that fantastic. So good. And as a bagel's great. I end up picking. I'm. Again, I understand that I'm blessed and fortunate to have so many wonderful bagel places that I can pick different things from different places. But, Josh, let me tell you, I don't get bagels, lox, cream cheese, all from one place.

[Josh Peck]

Of course not. That'd be crazy.

[Ben Sover]

The best bagels don't also have the best locks.

[Josh Peck]

Best bagels from the sables. Right?

[Ben Sover]

Sables is, in my opinion, number one. Number one. Number one. This is Japanese run. Japanese knife work. Jewish bellies. This is like a combo.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Josh Peck]

It's like they say in show business, have a Jew write it and a Gentile perform it.

[Ben Sover]

I love it.

[Josh Peck]

This is a winning strategy. Keep the actors British and the writers Yiddish.

[Ben Sover]

This is a winning strategy. Yes, exactly. And that is sables. Yeah. If you walk in, the people there are looking a little too Jewish. Cutting your locks. The Japanese.

[Josh Peck]

So true.

[Ben Sover]

You need it. So, yeah, Sable's definitely the best lox. Jumbo bagel, wonderful bagel. A plus bagel. Tal also makes a great bagel. The jumbo tuna is fantastic. You can order the Ben Safer celebrity sandwich, which is a bagel, tuna, lettuce, and onion. It is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Are you doing a breakfast? Are you fasting? That should be my first question.

[Josh Peck]

I probably won't. It's hard with the kids. I should. And I'm always, like, tempted to do it, but I, I. Because we're having our dear family friends. My. One of my wife's closest friends, and they have three boys, too, and they live about an hour north of us. And it's really hard with their kids for them to ever come down to the beach. And they're actually going to come down to the beach because all the kids have off for Yom Kippur. So it will be a little bit hard because I would be the only one fasting. And we're gonna be around food and doing the whole thing, but I should. I never really have. But I mean, it wouldn't be that hard. I'm used to fasting.

[Ben Sover]

I was gonna say, like. And I know that you sometimes disagree with my interpretations of Judaism, but I always think that as long as you're doing something, also, if you wanna do nothing, do nothing. But I Think as long as you're doing something, it's great. And considering you like fasting for health reasons, I don't see why you couldn't do, like a water and electrolyte fast. That's still more than not fasting. Like. Like that sounds great. It's also, like, healthy. I feel like you'd finish the day feeling great. It would be fucking hard sitting at lunch drinking an element. But I don't know.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, no, I think it could be great. I've embraced.

[Ben Sover]

I'm getting one year. I want you to be in the city. You'll tell me when we'll go to shul. The night before. It's lovely. Only an hour. It's Kol Nidra. And then the next day we go to shul again and we have deep thought in our own native tongue.

[Josh Peck]

And what's our native tongue? Brooklyn Hebrew is not our native tongue.

[Ben Sover]

English is. No. In our own native tongue.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, okay, good.

[Ben Sover]

Like, I sit in shul.

[Josh Peck]

Sure.

[Ben Sover]

Like, you listen to. And for those that don't know shul, synagogue, they're all the same thing. I just say shul. But it's just. It's the same term. I go, people are speaking in Hebrew, singing in Hebrew, and I'm 100% talking to God in English.

[Josh Peck]

Sure.

[Ben Sover]

I just am. I'm just there in. I can communicate that way and bare my soul and say sorry and repent. And I. I love Yom Kippur. When I was younger, I hated Yom Kippur because I only saw the negatives. He can't eat. So boring. All this stuff. And it's like now it's like, OK, it gives me. I turn off my phone for 25 hours. So it gives me, like a social media reset. It gives me a food reset, which is, I guess why I was saying I wish I broke fast on fucking chicken so that I didn't then, like, just, like, go back into my bad habits. But. And then I sit there and I really think about the year. Like, what could I have done better? What could I have done worse? It's nice because it's Russia. Shun of the New Year was just last week, and it's like a very. At least for me, it's like a very spiritual reset that I absolutely love. I love it.

[Josh Peck]

Should we get into a story?

[Ben Sover]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

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[Ben Sover]

Totally. And you don't get. And you don't get a fucking headache and you don't lose. Aren't they going to lose their hair, Josh? Aren't eventually these front hairs just going to get pulled out?

[Josh Peck]

Well, Allure has dubbed the phenomenon the bleph bun. A bun so taught that it is similar effects to a blepharoplasty and. Or an eyelid lift.

[Ben Sover]

I couldn't do that. I can't even wear a hat.

[Josh Peck]

I know.

[Ben Sover]

Imagine how much my fucking head would hurt with that.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Sover]

With my hair being pulled. Although too sensitive.

[Josh Peck]

Do you like when someone, like, takes a big. Like a big chunk of your hair and just kind of pulls back and, like, put some, like, nice, strong tension on your scalp?

[Olivia]

It makes me feel like a dog.

[Ben Sover]

I don't know.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

Whoa.

[Olivia]

Oh, sorry. No, that actually sounded really gnarly. I didn't mean it like that.

[Josh Peck]

I meant like that it's like Livy up.

[Olivia]

That.

[Ben Sover]

I don't know.

[Josh Peck]

Hey, listen, no shame here.

[Ben Sover]

I'm trying to think, like, is this even, like, Ben? No, it would hurt.

[Olivia]

It will give you attraction. Alopecia, though, after a period of time.

[Josh Peck]

Is what it's called.

[Olivia]

So if you.

[Ben Sover]

Right. That's right. Yeah, it must.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

I'm gonna bleep the front.

[Olivia]

Has, like. She has had that in the past. That's why she's got like.

[Ben Sover]

You're not bleeping that. We're not bleeping that. This is hot gas.

[Olivia]

Everybody knows that, though.

[Josh Peck]

Why are you bleeping it, though, if everyone knows?

[Olivia]

Everybody knows that.

[Josh Peck]

Do you have the inside?

[Caller/Listener]

Jojo?

[Josh Peck]

Jojo, friend of the show. We love Joe.

[Ben Sover]

We love Jojo. And I was watching Dancing with the Stars the other night, and she was front and center. She got a great seat. Wow.

[Josh Peck]

Has she been on it?

[Ben Sover]

I don't know if she's on it. She. I don't know if she's been on it, but she was sitting watching it. And this Is a great season. You don't watch, right? No, it's pretty entertaining, Josh. And I have to say, the star, Andy Grammer, how I. I have such.

[Josh Peck]

A resentment against you, Ben. And hear me out. That you watch so much dreck and you.

[Ben Sover]

I watch what my wife watches.

[Josh Peck]

You watch so much trash and you've never seen the Wackness.

[Ben Sover]

You're going to the wrong source. Okay, first of all.

[Josh Peck]

No, I'm not.

[Ben Sover]

I'm. I'm going into shul tomorrow, repenting for not watching the Wackness. That's first.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, you let me. I'll explain to you why I get so hurt by that, but keep going.

[Ben Sover]

You should be hurt by that, because my add, I forget about it and it's not right. And you mean more to me than me not watching that movie. And I really want to watch that movie. Well, I don't want to blame my wife, but I only watch TV with her.

[Josh Peck]

It's not. You're not blaming your. I'm not. I will not dare let you blame the wonderful Claudia, because I know you're there eating your two pounds of yogurt parfait, watching Glee, being like, jane lynch, you did it again, honey. Okay, I know you, you little jerk.

[Ben Sover]

By the way, Jane lynch, can we get her on the podcast?

[Josh Peck]

She is.

[Ben Sover]

She's my north star, this woman.

[Josh Peck]

I'll tell you why the wackness thing. And it's. How do I say this? There's. It's.

[Ben Sover]

I. I promise I will watch it.

[Josh Peck]

Here's the two. It's twofold. And here's the first thing, because I think people. How do I say this? I made that movie when I was 21 and it came out. And it's me and one of the greatest actors alive, Ben Kingsley, my favorite actor. And it's just us for the whole movie. And it's really good movie. And it was like, we won Sundance. It was like. And it's like the thing that now when people see me in Oppenheimer or the Last of Us, or these cooler things where people are like, whoa, that's not you. It's like anyone who knows knows me. Like, my close friends are like, oh, that was the moment for you at 21 where you were like, this is my North Star. This is the thing you're trying for, Josh. Even if you have three year blocks where you do icarly and a bunch of vines, like. And so the people who love me know it. And the last thing I'll say is if it were like a 1750s period drama about fucking, you know, figuring out gravity. I'd be like, ben, it's a good movie, but it's not for you. It's about 90s New York Yids. It could not be more for you.

[Ben Sover]

I just texted Claudia. I am watching the Wackness tomorrow.

[Josh Peck]

You'll like it. You'll like it, I hope.

[Ben Sover]

I am watching the Wackness tomorrow. And the next time we talk about this podcast, I will have seen the Wackness.

[Josh Peck]

God bless you.

[Ben Sover]

And I want everybody to know that I'm not watching it because Josh told me to watch it. I'm watching it because I. I'm watching it because I want to watch it. And. And all that I have to say, Josh, is while I have not watched the Wackness, you've never had a Sprint Society either.

[Josh Peck]

That's funny.

[Ben Sover]

So let's trade.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, fair enough.

[Ben Sover]

No, no, seriously, they do look good.

[Josh Peck]

I see that packaging. I just want to slam one. I want to slam the one you made with Craig Conover.

[Ben Sover]

It was fucking hot. But look, I'm deeply. I'm horrified.

[Josh Peck]

What?

[Ben Sover]

I'm watching it.

[Josh Peck]

What if you do one with the Dr. Craig Conover in South Carolina and it's a spritz with peptides?

[Ben Sover]

I love it. Or just like a beautiful non elk with you? We're going to do it. We're gonna do it up.

[Caller/Listener]

Fuck.

[Ben Sover]

I need to watch the Wackness. It's been on my list.

[Josh Peck]

It's okay. Sometimes you need just a little bit of a reminder.

[Ben Sover]

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[Josh Peck]

Get to some moron mail?

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, moron mail.

[Josh Peck]

Moron mail. I don't know if this is good or bad and so we can cut this out, Ben, but you tell me with love and appreciation. We love every single moron who listens. We have a listener, his name is Eliyahu. We love you, Eliyahu, and we thank you for listening. Eliyahu, you are clogging our moron mail speak pipe box because you leave 10 to 40 messages a week that are all at the limit and they are fun musings about the show, your observations and whatnot, but they're not really things we can play on the show. So we love you, we appreciate you. Please keep listening. Maybe not 40 a week, maybe one a week. A quick check in, Elliot, I think.

[Ben Sover]

That, I think that's totally appropriate. Eliyahu Hanavi, we love you. Okay. We absolutely love you. What we could also do, Eliyahu, is perhaps you take your talents to the written form. Perhaps you send an email, a long email. I think that works.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, this first one's from Steph.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good guys, I'll be quick. I am getting married end of October and I had a little bit of a dilemma and wanted some advice. So at first I did not want to do a first look with my fiance. I wanted the first time he saw me to be when I walked down the aisle. However, our photographer told us that we could do that, but then we would have to miss portions of our cocktail hour for photos. And I refuse to miss the cocktail hour. It's going to be the best part. So what would you guys do? First look or cocktail hour. Thanks, love you, bye.

[Josh Peck]

I will say, by the way, if you want to leave us a message, get some advice, go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity's key. We don't want to hear your what are your nuts?

[Ben Sover]

Is I will say, especially if your name is Eliyahu.

[Josh Peck]

But we love you.

[Ben Sover]

But we love you.

[Josh Peck]

I will say I too. And we had the greatest photographers at our wedding, like, obsessed with the photos. We too had to not do the cocktail hour to take pictures. And I feel like this should be. I feel like there's a better solve for this because I feel like that's the norm, that you just miss it because you have to take photos with all your groomsmen and close family and whatnot.

[Ben Sover]

I also think it's nice though, to make a bit of an entrance. Like if you just like went straight from the ceremony into the. Or what's the order of operations that you're talking about? Because depending on the type of wedding, like, are you saying that you do first look, show up, cocktails, wedding? Is that the order of operations?

[Josh Peck]

We did first look and then. Yeah. And then you basically separate and then you have the wedding ceremony and then it goes into an hour cocktail party after the dinner. That usually is all of the groomsmen and bridesmaids, family members, close family, taking photos with the bride and groom.

[Ben Sover]

Got it. So we do things differently. We do first look in pictures first, early. Like for an 8 o' clock or for. For a 6 o' clock wedding, you're showing up at 1. If you're a groomsman, right. Your photos, you get ready, whatever. And then we did that too. And then typically the first thing you do is the ceremony. Maybe you can grab a drink, maybe somebody has like champagne glasses or whatever. You grab something, you sit down and you go into the ceremony. Then after the ceremony, typically food. I guess there's also the reverse where there's food first. There are a couple of different ways to do it. I'm trying to remember what we did, but right after the ceremony, you go into what's called the Yichud room, which is where you're supposed to have sex. People really, they don't. But it's like, ok, you got married, now have a baby. That's like the custody. You go in there for 15 minutes.

[Josh Peck]

But that's the ultra religious.

[Ben Sover]

But even the non ultra religious still, they go into a room, they don't have sex.

[Josh Peck]

No one just stop and hang out. No one reformed is doing that. No reformed Jew is doing that.

[Ben Sover]

So maybe no reform. I know plenty of conservative Jews that do that though.

[Josh Peck]

Okay.

[Ben Sover]

Like followed by the yichudurim. So it's not only super religious. I think it's just like, are you following like a more traditional wedding archetype?

[Josh Peck]

But you don't.

[Ben Sover]

It's more like ceremonial in nature. But what I'M saying is that you then do end up missing, like, some of the cocktail hour. And to me, I like making an entrance. I like, everybody's there, maybe everybody's had a drink. People are, like, having a nice time. You don't want to go into a stale room with everybody else. So I kind of like. I don't like that you miss your whole cocktail hour. Maybe it's. Maybe you miss the first half hour and then you pop in, you still get a cocktail and a loose weenie. But. Yeah, I don't know. Right.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, I agree. I think that's fair. Olivia.

[Ben Sover]

I like making an entrance.

[Olivia]

Yeah. I actually. Some of my friends just got married at the beginning of August, and I liked the way that they did their, like, photo cocktail hour situation. I think they did a first look prior to the ceremony and, like, got some of their photos as a couple and with the bridal party. But then during the cocktail hour, they went off and, like, did their photos, you know, some extra photos with people. But what they ended up doing was, like, kind of posting up in a certain part of the garden. And the photographer just kept calling people from the cocktail hour over who are, like, in different groups of the couple's life to, like, get photos with multiple people from the wedding part or just from, like, the guests.

[Ben Sover]

Oh, that's nice.

[Olivia]

So that way, like, they were still kind of involved. While people are having drinks and little hors d', oeuvres, the bride and groom can grab one if they want. There's, like, a little bit of mingling. But then they went back to, like, their separate spaces, did, like, a change into their reception outfits and then came out. So they still had the grand entrance, but they also got to enjoy the cocktail hour and get their pictures. So I thought that was kind of a unique way to lay out the evening and inclusive.

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, lovely. I love shaking things up.

[Josh Peck]

Well, this next one's from Anonymous.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, good guys. Mazel on your two new baby boys. I wanted to hear what you guys would do if you were in a situation that I am in. So my husband and I decided to start trying for a baby this year. And we waited until we felt like we were truly ready financially. We have all of our shit together and we get to our eight week appointment and find not one, not two, but three babies inside of me. This was a spontaneous pregnancy.

[Ben Sover]

Wow.

[Caller/Listener]

We did not do ivf. Not that it matters. IVF is amazing, but usually you have more of a chance. How would you react if you were sitting with your wife and this news was given to you.

[Ben Sover]

Thanks. If I was sitting with my wife, I would wait for her to react first. I think you got to be really, really, really unbelievably happy and feel blessed. I know. I'm not saying it's not so hard. And such a crazy life change and such a financial burden and all of these things. You will figure it out. And I think to think anything other than blessed would only hurt you. I don't know, I have that dumb expression that worrying about tomorrow's troubles only ruins today's peace. And I like that saying. Sometimes people think that I'm like, proselytizing, but I like that. And overall, I think that it will be amazing and it will be really fucking hard, but it's kind of like hitting the lottery.

[Josh Peck]

I would just put a sheet in my mouth. Insane.

[Ben Sover]

Honestly, as I'm thinking through it again, you have a blessing.

[Josh Peck]

But now it's a total blessing.

[Ben Sover]

Can you imagine having three sleep schedules for your first. You have three sleep schedules at once. They're not all gonna wake up at the same, are they? I wonder how they're. Like, how their rhythms work. Yes. Yeah. Like, how do they work with each other? Like, I wonder. Shit. And you have three cribs. Three. It's going to be nuts.

[Josh Peck]

It's nuts. I would say everything in your power to hire staff. Like, everything in your power. Like, if you are remotely. If you have some savings, like, this is the time. This is the time to tap into the emergency fund and throw a little bit of money at it if you can, or enlist your whole family. Like, it just help, help, help, help. But the great thing is everything is going to get better at the same time. So I think you give over to the fact that it is going to be an insane year and you just live with it. You put everything on pause as much as you can and you zero in on these kids and you just. It's okay if your house is a mess. It's okay if your car is a mess. It's okay if your life is a mess. If those three babies are breathing and fed and reasonably happy. A son. Do not be hard on yourself. For another thing, if those three souls are alive and breathing and happy, A triple plus.

[Ben Sover]

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[Josh Peck]

This next one's from not so Negative Nancy.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, good guys. Huge fan and I need your advice. So my high school friends and I have stayed close for over 20 years, but lately when I get together with them, all they do is talk about how miserable their lives are. One is dealing with marriage issues, another's husband had an affair, there's deaths in families, just horrible life things happening to them. And of course I want to be supportive and see them and hang out with them, but all they do is go around the table at dinner talking about how awful their lives are to the point where I feel like I can't share anything happy that's going on with me because I don't want to make them feel bad. But my life is going great. I've got a great relationship, my husband with my husband. We've got healthy kids. I'm happy. But I feel like I can't share that because all they do is share their misery. Am I a terrible friend that I don't want to hang out with them anymore? I mean, I leave the dinners feeling so negative and down. It just sucks out the joy of everything. But I also want to be supportive of them. So what should I do? Thanks.

[Ben Sover]

I don't, I don't think that you are the problem at all. I think that it's great to be a good friend and be a, an ear to these people, but old friend doesn't necessarily need to mean lifelong friend. I think that you should. You sound like an optimist. Optimists crave optimists. Otherwise, like, you get dragged down. And I'm not saying totally cut them off, but you should definitely surround yourself with people that make you make you happy. You can still call them, check in. But yeah, if I had friends that were just like a 100% drain on me, I would not see them the same frequency that I once did. Yeah. So be a little Distance. Sorry, but I think that's right.

[Josh Peck]

Here's my strategy at dinner. As each of these people are going into their tough, hard life, you order something for the table. Okay? So Donna's going off about her divorce. You go. We'll have the spinach artichoke diploma. That will be a natural end to her bitching. So 10 minutes in, Donna, hold that thought.

[Olivia]

Look.

[Josh Peck]

And then the spinach artichoke dip, as though from the heavens on the table. Everyone's like, is this good or what? I don't know when the last time was I had this. Suddenly, subject changed. New subject were by Donna. And then, you know, Janine wants to go off about her husband who cheats. We'll have the chocolate lava cake 10 minutes in.

[Ben Sover]

You're relying on quick service, Josh. Quick service. But I like it. Yeah, I like it.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

You gotta go to a diner with these sad sacks.

[Josh Peck]

Go to Waffle House with these.

[Caller/Listener]

These total.

[Ben Sover]

Totally.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, pecan waffles. Oh, there's a fight by the entrance. Perfect.

[Caller/Listener]

Get the All Star. Scramp.

[Ben Sover]

Terrible.

[Josh Peck]

Have you been to a Waffle House, Ben?

[Ben Sover]

No, I've been to ihop. We don't have Waffle Houses in New York.

[Josh Peck]

I know, but you've seen this great country going out and doing meet and greet for.

[Ben Sover]

I have.

[Josh Peck]

You've been to Alabama.

[Ben Sover]

I have. I have. And I haven't been to Waffle House.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, you would have.

[Ben Sover]

Is it a must go? It's a must go, yes. Yeah, it's kind of like a diner adjacent. Is that what it is?

[Caller/Listener]

It is a diner.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

But.

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, I love a diner. I just feel bad for this woman. You need to fucking get or confront your friends in between the artichoke dip and the mole. Confront them and say, stop being. Where are we?

[Josh Peck]

First we were at Cheesecake Factory, now we're at what? At El Torito Grill.

[Ben Sover]

Mole. Just fucking tell them to fucking stop. Like, say, like, stop bitching. Enough. I could tell you all the fucking problems in my life, but I want to have a good time. Tell them to stop.

[Josh Peck]

Yes. Or go work for a supplement company and start hocking like, St. John's Wort. Like, I'm talking about natural serotonin.

[Ben Sover]

John's Wort. You dug that one up. I love it.

[Josh Peck]

That was the original antidepressant. Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

They make it my favorite company, Gaia Herbs. You're walking in the aisle. It's. Honestly, it's very. It's. It's jarring to see it. You're like, okay, you have a little quick Defense. You have some oil of oregano, St. John's Wort. And you're like, whoa, totally, dude. They need to rename that St. John's Wort.

[Josh Peck]

Dude, that. That's like, St. John needs a rebrand. I feel like no matter what medication you're on, they're always like, this medication is going to cure you as long as you're not taking St. John's Wort. Like, you know, it's always like, tell your doctor if you're taking St. John's Wort.

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, it's such a strange name. I don't know. Like. Like Josh Peck's athlete's foot. Yeah, like something, right?

[Josh Peck]

Or what's that antidepressant that basically, like, it was an early one that worked, but it was like you couldn't take it with anything else because it basically just conflicted with everything. Like an maois.

[Olivia]

The mono. Mono.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, yeah. Like, remember that in commercials? Like, tell your doctor if you're taking an maoi.

[Ben Sover]

I don't recall, but guess I didn't.

[Josh Peck]

Have those commercials during Glee, you know? No.

[Ben Sover]

We're all so happy. They're trying to give us. They're trying to give us downers. They're like, if you're. If you're not depressed enough or if you're depressed, try singing. Yeah, that helps.

[Josh Peck]

Do you have. What are you, nuts?

[Ben Sover]

Yeah, let's go to what are you, nuts? What are you, nuts? Moment of the week. People, places and things. Gripes with humanity. You're looking at the woman on the street. She's barefoot. All right? You're like, what are you, nuts? Lady, put on some shoes. My, what are you nuts? Moment. I teased in the beginning. Josh was at this doctor's appointment.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, great.

[Ben Sover]

Tell me what you think about this. My appointment's at noon. I show up at noon. Okay? Fill out the paperwork quick. Five minutes. It was no big deal. I go up, I hand it in. He says, okay, we're just waiting for your X ray technician to get back from lunch. She went on lunch at noon. My appointment's at noon, Josh. She doesn't come back from lunch until 1. I sit there for the duration of her lunch to get my X ray. What are you, nuts? Why are you scheduling an appointment at noon when your X ray tech goes on lunch at noon? Put it at one. So that way, I come at one and she's back from lunch. I don't have to sit there while she's out at Chipotle eating the double burrito. And then she comes back and she has terrible gas in the room while she's checking me in. I don't need this. 12 o', clock, you bring me in for an appointment and you send your employee out to get lunch. What are you, nuts? Nuts, right. Was crazy. I was like, are you ready? She's like, oh, she's out at lunch. I should be out at lunch.

[Josh Peck]

Totally.

[Ben Sover]

And then I'll come back, we both will be fed. We both had lunch, right? And then we could talk about what we had for lunch.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

Meanwhile, I had no lunch because I was so rushed. I had two bearbells, which means that tonight you talk about gas. Whatever's in those things. It's no good. It's like that fake sweetener shit. No good. I had two bearbells. I didn't even have a. I didn't even have a lunch. I could have had lunch. I could have sat for an hour.

[Josh Peck]

With your 25 hour fast, starting at sundown tonight, around like five, are you gonna, like, do a little carbo loading?

[Ben Sover]

Yeah. The Soffers really, really wanted to go to this Mexican restaurant called Maya. So that's where we're going. We're going. We're going in.

[Josh Peck]

Hard body karate, Couple extra scoops of creatine.

[Ben Sover]

It's not like my ideal pre fast meal. I'm not gonna lie. Bruce really wanted it.

[Josh Peck]

Chinese dinner, don't you?

[Ben Sover]

Chinese or Italian? Like I would love, like pizza, pasta, like Caesar salad, Mexican. At least I can get that mole. My brain was on the mole.

[Josh Peck]

Well, we've added an extra segment to every podcast called are you having a good day?

[Ben Sover]

How about now?

[Josh Peck]

And it's where we learn tough facts that you weren't really expecting. But they're weird, scary truths that you really should know. So I will say, having a good day. Your brain can generate false memories and you will believe them as real. These memories can feel just as real as true ones. And you will defend them with the same emotion and detail as you would a real, actual memory.

[Ben Sover]

God.

[Josh Peck]

How about now?

[Ben Sover]

No, that's terrible. That's like God gaslighting you. God's gaslighting you. No good.

[Josh Peck]

Ooh, I heard such a good quote yesterday. A coincidence is just God's way of staying anonymous.

[Ben Sover]

Ooh.

[Josh Peck]

See you next week.

[Ben Sover]

Powerful, powerful.

[Josh Peck]

Powerful.

[Ben Sover]

Like that? Yeah. Do you have.

[Josh Peck]

Do you have anything? Rejection is just God's protection. Get up. My wood. My Winnie nuts moment is I am the biggest fan of that show the Pit, and I am proud that I was on it early. I was a fan right from the start. I Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it. But there is this thing on the set that people have heard about where they have all of the crew who work on the set dress in scrubs, because if there's a chance that someone gets caught in a scene who's not on the show but, like, is a lighting guy or an assistant director, they want to make sure that they're in the right kind of, you know, Pittsburgh hospital gear so that, you know, it doesn't look weird except for. What are you nuts? Oh, there's that nurse over there holding a boom microphone. There's a doctor running the snack table. Like, what are you nuts? Does it work?

[Ben Sover]

No, no, it's.

[Josh Peck]

It's.

[Ben Sover]

It's actually, I. At first I was thinking, wow, that's a really genius idea. And then the more I thought of that, I'm like, you know, I don't think so. How do you have tighter shots?

[Josh Peck]

Okay, Right.

[Ben Sover]

Just have tighter shots.

[Josh Peck]

Yes.

[Ben Sover]

Like, wow, what an episode. What an episode this is, bro. If this isn't 5 stars, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips, Instagram and TikTok. We're at 97,000 on TikTok, and you just follow us, like 100K. It's right there. Follow us on fucking Tik Tok. Fucking follow us on TikTok.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Sover]

Mondays and Thursdays. Unless you don't follow us on Tick Tock, then we're done. I quit. I've been fine. I'll come back. Anyways, we'll see you next time if you follow us on TikTok. Otherwise, we won't see you.

[Olivia]

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