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Ben Schwartz
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Josh Peck
Are we supposed to help with inflammation?
John Stamos
Did it work?
Josh Peck
No, it didn't work.
Ben Schwartz
Muslims, welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. We're here with John Stamos talking about inflammation.
Josh Peck
Yeah. Well, what did you do? I took a liquid gold shot from Erewhon, and let me tell you, it burned a hole in my esophagus.
John Stamos
I saw Erewhon once. I had to sell an expensive guitar just to pay for the bill.
Josh Peck
Yeah, it's very, very expensive. It all looks fantastic. It's kind of like models. There's no depth.
John Stamos
They look beautiful.
Josh Peck
There's no depth. There's nothing in it. I wouldn't know.
Ben Schwartz
You want to find out for yourself, though, right?
John Stamos
What?
Ben Schwartz
You know, with the models. You wouldn't know.
John Stamos
I don't know.
Josh Peck
You haven't had a conversation. I'm just talking about chatting.
John Stamos
Chatting with models? Yeah. I'm married to a beautiful model who's probably deeper than you. That's hard to do.
Ben Schwartz
Am I allowed to say your wife is very beautiful?
Josh Peck
Thank you.
Ben Schwartz
With deep respect.
Josh Peck
You shouldn't be asking him. You should be asking Paige, but.
John Stamos
Oh, sorry.
Ben Schwartz
My wife is very beautiful.
John Stamos
Your wife is very beautiful.
Ben Schwartz
Three lucky men.
John Stamos
Before I met Caitlin, we were doing a gig at some arena. Remember? You were wearing a wig and what was that for? Kids Choice Awards.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, Teen Choice Awards.
John Stamos
You were hosting, I think. Right. And you were great. And I remember looking at you and Paige going, like, why can't I find someone like Paige? Like, why can't I be in a relationship like that? It was so, you know, just love the way you guys were there. I love the way she was supporting you. I love. She was so beautiful. She is so beautiful. I was like, what has he got that I ain't got? Why can't I find someone like that? And I ended up finding something. Caitlyn. And then the two of them became good buddies, which was beautiful. And Caitlyn was at your house yesterday.
Ben Schwartz
It's an interesting path, right? Cause we both. We got married within a year of each other. We had our first kids within a year of each other.
John Stamos
You moved away from us, so we don't get to see you as much. It's horrible.
Josh Peck
Bastard.
John Stamos
But I get it. Moving near your in laws and stuff. That was a smart move.
Ben Schwartz
Being near the family.
John Stamos
Right?
Josh Peck
How did you and Caitlyn meet?
John Stamos
It's a good story.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, it is.
John Stamos
So I did an episode of SVU. Law & Order.
Ben Schwartz
Heard of the best.
John Stamos
Have you seen the show? Did you ever do any Josh.
Ben Schwartz
It's my dream rat in a Hallmark movie. We'll get into that later.
John Stamos
Hallmark movie you can do. Well, I know you have an idea for the.
Josh Peck
He has a very specific idea.
Ben Schwartz
They keep offering them to me when I'm having a kid or when I'm working with Christopher Nolan.
Josh Peck
I need it now.
John Stamos
I'm ready. Last of us killed in that.
Ben Schwartz
I'm ready to go.
John Stamos
Yeah, but you can't go back to you're above says you here.
Ben Schwartz
You know what? This was a segment for later but let's do it now. I think we both know our end game is Hallmark so maybe me sooner than you should we have chatgpt write us out a scene from a Hallmark.
John Stamos
Movie that put Lori in it cuz she Lori Loughlin cuz she's in Lori.
Ben Schwartz
Josh Pe. John Stamos and Lori and I've chat TV talk.
John Stamos
Do you ever know I don't have.
Ben Schwartz
I don't have the corporate account. I'm too cheap.
Josh Peck
I do.
John Stamos
Do you?
Josh Peck
Yeah.
John Stamos
That's you're going to talk about. This is an audio thing, you know.
Ben Schwartz
Great.
John Stamos
Okay, so what do you want me to say?
Ben Schwartz
Let's pick out two or three prompts.
Josh Peck
For the movie Hanukkah.
Ben Schwartz
It's a Hanukkah.
John Stamos
Hanukkah meets Hanukkah.
Ben Schwartz
Greek Christmas.
John Stamos
Like a Greek Christmas.
Ben Schwartz
Hanukkah highlight.
Josh Peck
I like that.
John Stamos
You're.
Josh Peck
You're goy goy.
John Stamos
Goy is boy goy.
Josh Peck
Goam is plural. Multiple.
Ben Schwartz
Ben says Goam and Candace Owen starts taking notes. Totally.
John Stamos
She's starting to make sense now. Marjorie. Marjorie's good. She's done a couple. I love her.
Josh Peck
She's great.
Ben Schwartz
Mtg. We set up the laser. We said the laser meetings we were going to give. Give her flowers.
John Stamos
No politics.
Ben Schwartz
John Stamos. Josh. Lori Loughlin.
John Stamos
Okay.
Ben Schwartz
Hallmark movie. Hanukkah, Greek Christmas. Where. What's the location?
John Stamos
The North Pole.
Josh Peck
Love it.
Ben Schwartz
Great.
John Stamos
Or does it need to be like in Israel?
Ben Schwartz
Could be Egypt.
Josh Peck
Egypt.
John Stamos
Maybe it's Egypt.
Josh Peck
It's a Passover story.
John Stamos
Utah. Utah.
Josh Peck
Somebody Mormon.
John Stamos
Maybe that's where you get your wives. All the wives. By the way, if you guys I don't watch reality television. I watch all true crime only. But have you watched the Mormon Wives? I have. No, you're not. This is a good show. I'm surprised, Josh. Really shocked. Yeah. Oh, it's a good one. Anyway, so that's how you get to.
Josh Peck
And they're killing it on Dancing with the Stars. I don't know if they're on it. Two of them are Whitney and the one that said that she was going to Ben Affleck, but she is.
John Stamos
Oh. Oh, she's cute too. She has a. Just had a baby.
Josh Peck
Jen Affleck. Yes. By the way, they're doing Dancing with the Stars eight weeks postpartum. How amazing is that?
Ben Schwartz
Unreal.
Josh Peck
Unbelievable. Yeah. Great show. You should watch.
John Stamos
So should I sit? Do you want to put polygamy in there? Is what I was getting to. Sure. Hallmark, they might not go for that. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, maybe not.
John Stamos
So you want a legitimate story?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, I think that's a winner. Greek Christmas, Hanukkah hybrid, the three of us.
John Stamos
So I'm great.
Ben Schwartz
What, in Utah? Because it's just pretty.
John Stamos
Why Utah? We'll make it in Colorado. Olivia. Colorado.
Josh Peck
Make it in Colorado.
John Stamos
That's good. Naked in Colorado.
Josh Peck
Naked good.
John Stamos
That's a great title. Naked in Colorado. All right.
Ben Schwartz
I like Colorado. I like Colorado.
John Stamos
There we go.
Josh Peck
All right.
John Stamos
Hi. Can you create a. A TV movie for Hallmark still? I can't even say it. Starring John Stamos, Josh Peck and Lori Loughlin. And it's a Christmas movie, so it's half Hanukkah and half Christmas.
Ben Schwartz
Greek Christmas.
John Stamos
Greek Christmas. And make it in a beautiful location. You choose. But give me the storyline of what a movie like that would look like. And one scene, and write one scene that Josh and I can act out. And Ben will play Laurie.
Ben Schwartz
Please, please be nice to the AI.
Josh Peck
No, they say don't say please. It wastes the energy.
Jordan Sparks
Absolutely. That sounds like a blast. So let's imagine this Hallmark style holiday movie set in a gorgeous Greek island village. We'll have the tinkly lights, a little bit of Mediterranean charm, and of course, a mix of Christmas and Hanukkah traditions. Movie title, A Greek holiday miracle. John Stammels plays Nick, a charming Greek American chef.
Ben Schwartz
Is your AI voice. Chanel West Coast.
John Stamos
Sorry, continue.
Jordan Sparks
Haha. No Chanel west coast here, but I'll keep that same fun energy rolling. All right, let me dive back in. So we've got John Stamos as Nick, the warm hearted Greek American chef. Josh Peck plays David, a slightly goofy but lovable Travel writer who's come to the island to do a holiday feature on unique Christmas celebrations. And then we have Lori Loughlin as Elena, the island's event planner, who's orchestrating this big combined Hanukkah Christmas festival for the first time. So the plot is basically about these three characters coming together, mixing traditions, and, of course, finding a little bit of holiday magic along the way.
John Stamos
Okay, love, thank you. She'll keep going. We need to.
Ben Schwartz
It's quite the pitch. We gotta wait. So you met your wife on the set of Law and svu?
John Stamos
Yes, I was playing a serial. Like, he was so egotistical that he. He was. He was impregnating as many women as he could because he wanted to spread his progeny, and so. And he had money, so he was taking care of all of them. But these women were getting pregnant unbeknownst to themselves, because he was poking holes in condoms and, like, conning them into.
Josh Peck
You've seen this episode. Great one.
John Stamos
Thank you. And so in walks Caitlyn, who was working for the day, and she was playing. I. I'm. I'm. We're in a hotel room, and she's in her, like, a bra, panties, and. And iced tea. And the other guy, like, kicked. Kicked the door down. And she's, like, holding her. And I'm. I'm in there, and I got my. I asked the prop guy, give me some reading glasses. I got some reading glasses and a pin and a condom. I'm like, they kicking. What are you doing? You know? And so I didn't get her pregnant then, but I waited about seven years, and then it, you know, what happened? She. So. So here's the deal. So I saw her. I go, oh, my God, I'm going.
Josh Peck
To marry that girl.
John Stamos
I just. I'm in love with her. She loved Disney. She loved theater. She loved all this. She thought I was gay. She tells everybody, sure.
Josh Peck
Who is that?
John Stamos
Right? Who isn't gay?
Ben Schwartz
You're on the right podcast.
Josh Peck
Who isn't?
John Stamos
I don't know. Is this your. I brought that from home. You did? So. So I was like. I said, this is it. So I. I was going to walk in and get her phone number. And as I walk into the makeup trailer, we were. We were at Pier 51 or whatever that is in New York. And as I walk into the makeup trailer, she's like. And then I'm getting married over there at Pier 51. And then we're gonna have the reception here. That's how she talks. But she doesn't think she talks about it, and I'm like, oh. And I just blurt out, why are you getting married? Like an asshole? You know? And she's like, well, because I'm. Whatever. And. But we exchanged numbers and we, we texted once in a while as friends, you know. And then at one point, she said, I can't text you anymore. My husband, my fiance, doesn't dig it. You know, I told him you were gay, but, you know, he knew better. And I said, okay, whatever. And then she kept texting me if she said she didn't, but I think she did. But then it went silent for a long time, and I, I, I, I was stalking her on Instagram, and she. No, I didn't stalk her yet. So I walk into the set of Fuller House. It was one of the first episodes, and I was producing it. Josh was on there, and I wasn't in that episode. But I walked out and I see her sitting in the audience, some guy. And I said, oh, hey, came here to see me. She goes, don't flatter yourself. My friend's in this episode this week. That's how she talks to me, and that's why I married her. And then I said, oh, is this your husband? She says, no, I got divorced. This is a. Just my boyfriend. Just boyfriend. I could maybe work through that.
Josh Peck
Sure.
John Stamos
I started stalking her on Instagram. Boyfriend, boyfriend, Boyfriend, Boyfriend. No boyfriend. No boyfriend. Dog. Dog. No boyfriend.
Ben Schwartz
Working on myself. Right. That's, that's when you know that the relationship's over. When they start doubling down on, like, getting back into yoga.
John Stamos
Yeah, There was some yoga pictures.
Ben Schwartz
Girls trip. You're like, he's gone.
John Stamos
Yeah, he was out.
Ben Schwartz
He's out of it.
John Stamos
And then I. We said, let's. You want to wanna. And so I said, I'm having a pizza party. She tells the story this way. And the pizza party was just pat. And then he left. It was just the two of us. Yeah, but that's. That's how it happened.
Ben Schwartz
Beautiful love.
John Stamos
It's never been better. We're going on close to 10 years, right? Are you guys 10? Nine years we've been together.
Ben Schwartz
14. Oh, and. But married. Yeah.
John Stamos
Eight.
Josh Peck
Eight years.
John Stamos
Eight or eight or nine years.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
Yeah, for eight years.
Ben Schwartz
It's wild.
John Stamos
You were at my wedding, I was at yours.
Ben Schwartz
Look at that. Come on. He's been married since.
John Stamos
Do you have kids?
Josh Peck
Ben, One. Four and a half months. Oh.
John Stamos
Oh, really? Congratulations.
Josh Peck
Yeah. And he. We brought him to la. And let me tell you, I'm not trying to brag. Didn't Cry on the plane is already adjusted.
John Stamos
Is he an LA kid already like so blessed?
Josh Peck
Yeah. He is so spoiled. My God.
Ben Schwartz
With love. He's an exceptional boy.
Josh Peck
Josh met him.
Ben Schwartz
Beautiful temperament. Beautiful boy.
John Stamos
Ruby.
Ben Schwartz
The great Ruby.
John Stamos
I like it.
Josh Peck
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Ben Schwartz
I've been meaning to ask, and since you were on the pod last time, which was just a Paramount episode.
John Stamos
It was. I got a lot of flack for it.
Ben Schwartz
They can't get over the fact that you fired the Olsen twins.
John Stamos
Yeah, I know.
Ben Schwartz
So when you did that.
John Stamos
Yes. Did you. Did. Did they sound like. You sound like. What's Marty Short's character?
Ben Schwartz
Jiminy Glenn.
John Stamos
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So John, when you.
John Stamos
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Were they.
John Stamos
It was like a day, you know, it was like. It really wasn't any big deal. They were. It was just a lot of crying and I just, I just honestly, I didn't think they wanted to be there.
Ben Schwartz
Before or after they got fired. There was a Lot of crying.
Josh Peck
No, we.
John Stamos
They just weren't into it, you know, And I just said, do we have any other kids? And there were other. There were other twins around, you know, and then we tried these other kids, and they were. They didn't work out, and so get the Olsen twins back. It was like a couple hours.
Ben Schwartz
And did you hear anything back? Like, who had to break the news to them?
John Stamos
I don't know. Jeff Franklin, maybe, or Bob. It was. We were doing this scene, and the scene one. One of them ended up in the show where it was changing Michelle's diapers and it was, you know, look, she was whatever, eight, nine months old. And we're. Dave and I that, you know, were running up and down stairs, and we're wrapping towels around her. We're squirting water at her from the. From the sink. You know, I mean, I don't blame her. She was screaming.
Ben Schwartz
Sure.
John Stamos
And we had to go back and loop a lot of it. And I just felt like we're, you know, we're. We're. This kid doesn't want to be doing this. Yeah, well, so that was. And honestly, look, I went in there thinking, like, okay, I'm the. You know, I just came off a big sitcom with Jack Klugman, you know, and this is my thing, you know, and the reading was very funny. I don't know if I remember walking in like. Like the big. Like the cheese. What do you call a macha? Yeah. And, you know, and I wasn't. I mean, it was. I was the. You know, like the mothers were. Oh, he was on General Hospital and kind of thing. And it was, you know, sort of. I was starring in the show, and we. We. We start the reading and it. Jody and the kids, mainly. But mainly Jody was just, like, knocking it out of the park. And I said, I'll get him with this line. I say my line. It was like a tepid laugh. Then Jody comes, and I'm just, like, slowly slipping, and I'll never forget it. We were at the. It was in Culver City at whatever hotel there, and I ran out of the. The reading and it was back, and I jammed a quarter in the thing. I said, get me off this show. You know, I was wrong.
Ben Schwartz
Who talked you out of it? Or just.
John Stamos
Well, I didn't really have. Yeah, I mean, it was that, but I. You know, it's interesting. Does your kids. Does your son watch. Has he watched any of it?
Ben Schwartz
Full House.
John Stamos
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Not yet.
John Stamos
Billy watches it mainly to mock me, I think. You know, you got it Dude, I'll do my catchphrases. Dad, I need a catchphrase. But, you know, it's taken me this. To this point to go. I get it. And I'm not. Not. I'm not trying to get away from it anymore. I've been on Broadway five times. I've done everything. ER was a great run. I think if people call me Uncle Jess, great. I don't care. To me, I've proven myself legitimate. I have a movie coming out, too. I'll tell you about it in a minute. So you know that feeling, Josh? I mean, you've gone through the exact same thing. You're in the last of us talking about jerking off and stuff. Right? I mean, you did it.
Josh Peck
It's so interesting, though, because you both have the same feeling towards those two shows, Drake and Josh, Full House. When as the viewer, it's like, you guys were fucking amazing in those shows. Like, why aren't those legacy builders? Because they're not. They're not big enough. They were enormous. Like, I understand that it's defining, and I know your position on it, but.
John Stamos
Have you come around to it more like. I have, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I mean, it's totally separate, it seems to me, from the outside. Full House is a different thing. A, Cause you guys made a killing. And B, what we've come to know of Drake and Josh is that there was a very legitimate, horrible dark cloud that surrounded the whole thing. And yet, when people come up to you and have come up to me over the years about Drake and Josh, it's not my job to sully their great memory of enjoying it with. And so in that way, I've grown a love for it, to enjoy it through other people, to see what it means to people.
John Stamos
Right, Right.
Ben Schwartz
And I've learned from you, and when we were working together, that you embraced it so beautifully that you knew you had this other side of you that had done things that challenged you and pushed you in different ways artistically, but that there was this one thing that people absolutely loved you for.
John Stamos
Billy will watch it in the car sometimes, and I'll listen and I'll be like, some of the jokes are corny. Some of them didn't hold up, but the central character was love. And it's lasted the test of time, that show. And every three or four years, there's a new Full House fanborn. You should have your son start watching now. Ruby will love it. It's a hard show you don't have to think about. Same with Drake and Josh, and I think so Again, why Sully. But our show was. It was magical all the way through eight years. I mean, you know, we had our. Bob and I, you know, didn't get along great in the beginning. I think maybe we talked about this last time.
Ben Schwartz
Real. It was like you were real brothers.
John Stamos
Real brothers, yeah. Did I tell you the story about working with James Earl Jones last time I was on?
Josh Peck
I don't think so.
John Stamos
So I was doing this. The last thing I did on Broadway was with. With James Earl Jones and Angela Lansbury. It was called Best Man Gorby at all Play three, three, act two intermissions. It was like standing ovations every time. And, you know, James Earl Jones, arguably one of the greatest actors of.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
You know, passed away, rest in peace. But he kind of took me under his wing. Little John. I called him Big Daddy. And talk about an actor. What's that? Big Daddy? Is that you? That call you in the gate?
Josh Peck
Oh, Hunter P. They call me all the time.
Ben Schwartz
That's what they call him in the Rambles.
John Stamos
What's the Rambles?
Ben Schwartz
You know, George Takea and Howard would say, oh, my. And then. Oh, my God, he goes. Then I would sneak off to the Rambles. I think it was the gay meetup spot in Central Park.
John Stamos
The Teddy bear. Yeah. I don't know about that one, but I do. You didn't know? No.
Josh Peck
We're extra gay today. Yeah.
John Stamos
There's nothing wrong with it. I just officiated a gay wedding this weekend. It was so beautiful. It was so happy to see where you guys. In the desert.
Josh Peck
Beautiful, beautiful.
John Stamos
What does it matter where.
Ben Schwartz
Didn't you.
John Stamos
Yeah, I did one in my backyard too.
Ben Schwartz
For the great Neil Marin, Right?
John Stamos
That's right.
Ben Schwartz
Beautiful.
John Stamos
One of the great, great James Earl Jones. And you know, talk about an actor like, he would. He would. He would. He. Sometimes we do the curtain calls a little John, let's go work on that scene. And we. Curtain would go back. You know, the curtain would go down, people would leave the theater, curtain come back up and we would go. Go back to the set and work on one moment. Now I. He was. He always said it was his moment, but I think he might have been my. He was trying to fix what I was doing, but that's just how great he was.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
The show closed on a Sunday. It finished Saturday night. After curtain call, he said, let's go work on that scene. I had one more chance to do it. So I'm walking across the stage. It was Sunday matinee. I'll never forget it. And we're walking across and they're taking the set down and everything. And I said, big Daddy, I said, you little John. I said, you did something for me that nobody's done. You've given me a real sense of legitimacy to stand toe to toe with you. And a lot of it was him and I were like this. Stand toe to toe with you on. On a Broadway stage. Goreby doll. Political drama. You know, people will look at me differently for the rest of my life. I mean, people have. You've changed people's perception of me. And I'm so grateful. Stage door opens and there's all the fans outside. Uncle Jesse.
Josh Peck
Uncle Jesse.
John Stamos
And I'm like, say, have mercy.
Josh Peck
Say, have mercy.
John Stamos
I wanted to. My face turned red.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
I wanted to crawl under the legs and just run down Broadway and never come back. I was afraid to look at him. But I hear overhear someone in the crowd go, hey, James. James. He had a phone. He said, will you say, luke, I am your father? Into my phone, right? And we looked at each other and just started laughing.
Ben Schwartz
Fuck it.
John Stamos
Fuck it.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. You don't get to choose what triggers the zeitgeist. Like, what becomes a part of the lexicon.
John Stamos
It's funny. I was talking to Glen Powell about that. I said, make sure whatever your thing is, in the beginning, he didn't understand. And I don't even think I made a clear thought of that. But it's like, you don't have control of it. If I could go back, like, I wanted to be on Science, I wanted to be on. I Love sitcoms, but I wanted to be on something that was a little more well reviewed, you know, more. I mean, you know, they said Full House wouldn't last till Thanksgiving. When it came out, they didn't say which Thanksgiving. And then when Fuller House came out, they compared it to necrophilia. Oh, my God. Like, that's necrophilia.
Ben Schwartz
You know, hooking up with the dead.
John Stamos
Yeah. Yeah. What does that have to do with four?
Ben Schwartz
What did it have to do?
John Stamos
I don't know, but it's what he compared it to. I remember the guy's name. I'd say it. So, you know, going through that. But then all of a sudden, you get great reviews on something else, you know, like you did on your movie. And.
Ben Schwartz
But like, with. If you think of even people who've. Who've attained crazy heights, like Steve Carell.
John Stamos
Right.
Ben Schwartz
Are people going, we loved you in Foxcatcher or talking about the Office, Right.
Josh Peck
I think that people for Steve Carell are talking. They're definitely talking about the office.
Ben Schwartz
But. But that's his thing. And then he did 40 year old virgin and so many great things. But I think the office.
John Stamos
But you and I are great examples. Like, we got to. You. You got to, you know, Oppenheimer. I mean, come on. Like, that doesn't get any better.
Josh Peck
Enormous.
John Stamos
That's better than anything.
Ben Schwartz
That's why I keep myself humble. Hallmark.
John Stamos
Balance it out.
Ben Schwartz
No, you can't figure me out.
John Stamos
Balance it out.
Ben Schwartz
I went from the set of Hopping High. Carly.
John Stamos
I don't give a.
Ben Schwartz
And I'm sober. I have no drug habit to pay for. I just have a scarcity complex and dad issues.
John Stamos
You've been very helpful with my sobriety over the years. I think that I wouldn't be here without you. Help mine.
Ben Schwartz
That's. It's the beauty of what we do.
John Stamos
Yeah. Right. We have to. Your turn.
Josh Peck
I was going to say, have we had any benders? Like, together?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, no, he.
John Stamos
I had one before I really sobered up. And we went to Jimmy Kimmel's house, remember?
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah. Well, I. I thought you were thinking of another one.
John Stamos
What was the other one?
Ben Schwartz
On the private plane to Vegas.
John Stamos
I don't remember that. These are good stories. That was a bad one.
Ben Schwartz
That was a toughie.
John Stamos
I remember Rob's hammered. Right. Did I pass out or something? Fall asleep?
Ben Schwartz
We did the pilot. It got picked up.
John Stamos
Right.
Ben Schwartz
I'm in Northern California with my wife and her family and it's like 10 o' clock at night, and I get a text from my friend and he said, sorry, bro. And he sent the article that you had gotten a Dewey. And I was like, oh, oh, man. And I read through it and thank God you were okay and everyone was okay, but I kind of didn't know what was going to happen with the show or whatever. And then we had to go and it was right before you had sobered up and we had to go do this press thing in Vegas.
John Stamos
It was in between like that and going to rehab.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
All right. Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
And I remember we were on a plane to Vegas to do some big press thing and you were hurting.
John Stamos
Yeah, I think I got home from that. It was like, they take me away. Take, take. Let's get. Let's get. And I also did my Big Fat Greek Wedding three during that. That time.
Josh Peck
And I don't remember what a franchise.
John Stamos
I don't remember being there either.
Ben Schwartz
Really.
John Stamos
Those are fun, you know, whatever.
Josh Peck
This is My Daughter Marry Ian Miller wedding.
Ben Schwartz
Do you remember John's Never Seen it.
John Stamos
I did the reading.
Josh Peck
Daughter.
John Stamos
I did the reading of the first one. I remember going to. To play Tone, and Tom was there and everybody. And I. I was reading the. I guess it would be the Joey Fatone part or something. It was. That was funny because Joel Zwick, who was a director on Full House, was directing this movie. Nobody knew it was going to be what it was, right? And Ian. I mean, and Nia and Ian at the time, but they were fans and they wanted me to be part of the movie. And so I read the part and I didn't end up doing it. And Joel told me that they thought I was too old for the part. For years go by, I become really good friends with Nia, and we. Some. Somehow we talk about that, and she goes, I never said that I wanted you in this movie so bad. They told me that you turned it down. Fucking chose.
Ben Schwartz
I. I did this indie movie with Michael Rapaport years ago when I was, like, 17 years old. And I'll never forget just, you know, the idea of, like, sometimes we have a couple movies we don't totally remember. I was 17.
John Stamos
Yeah. Let's talk about some of your hammered stories, kid. I got plenty.
Ben Schwartz
I got plenty. But I wasn't. He was. No, we were. We were in this rapper party. We're in this car shooting this scene, and we had gotten all of Michael's coverage, and he's sitting in the backseat, and it's me and my brother in the front. And so it's like late night. And like, now he's literally just like a background actor in the scene, because now it's. The camera's on me and my brother in the front seat. And so I think he just smoked a little weed, relaxed. Was like, I'm just in the backseat. But he had to say this line where he sees something out the windshield and goes like, hey, stop. Like, stop.
Josh Peck
Now we have to talk to him.
John Stamos
And. You scared me. Well, in the acting, he's good.
Josh Peck
Really good.
John Stamos
Stop it. Like, yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Well, this was Mike after he smoked up a little. On take one, he goes, yo, stop. It's like, yeah, very kind. Baby's very kind to me.
John Stamos
Very good.
Ben Schwartz
I don't blame him.
John Stamos
We made it through.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, we're the lucky ones.
John Stamos
We are the lucky ones. It's, you know, and it's hard to see some people around you, you know, that are not getting it right sometimes. I mean, you must have felt that with me. But, yeah, listen, you've always.
Ben Schwartz
Even through all your mishegos, and we all have it. You have always been the kindest, greatest to everyone that's around us.
Josh Peck
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Ben Schwartz
Wait, so you were talking about Broadway before and I'm dying to hear about this because you recently did Jesus Christ Superstar at the Hollywood Bowl. You stepped in for Josh Gad with 24 Hours Notice.
John Stamos
Yeah, something like that.
Ben Schwartz
I was flying, play by play.
John Stamos
I was flying home from Spain. And I'm not a guy that learns stuff fast. I was on Glee, right? And I. And these kids would, you know, you would. They would do a song and they would. The choreographer would be in there, Fosse, Fosse one. And they would all get his favorite show.
Ben Schwartz
I give him so much.
Josh Peck
Oh, you do? Okay, good. Don't Tell me not to live Just sit in pona.
John Stamos
He's a good singer.
Ben Schwartz
He has a nice voice.
John Stamos
If I close my eyes, I would. Thought that was Leah Michelle. Go ahead, do it again.
Josh Peck
Life's candy and the sun's a ball of butter.
John Stamos
That's really good. Do the last one because. Thanks.
Josh Peck
Don't tell me not to. What is it?
John Stamos
Rain something.
Josh Peck
No, there's a word. Rain on my parade.
John Stamos
Good.
Ben Schwartz
Beautiful vibrato.
Josh Peck
Thank you very much. I was a canter in a past life.
John Stamos
That was good.
Josh Peck
Thank you.
John Stamos
I saw her do that on Broadway. She was pretty.
Josh Peck
I saw her do that on Broadway, too, and she was amazing. You want to. How many times. How many times you see her?
John Stamos
How many Broadway shows have you done? Let's see.
Ben Schwartz
But I should.
John Stamos
Do you love it?
Josh Peck
I love Broadway.
John Stamos
What's your favorite show?
Josh Peck
I think Dear Evan Hansen was my favorite show. We saw it a lot.
John Stamos
Did you?
Josh Peck
Yeah, and I. And he was incredible in that.
John Stamos
He really was. He would. And I told him afterwards, like, how do you get those. Like, you. You bought. You contort your body into such an interesting way to get those notes. And I don't think he thought that was a compliment.
Josh Peck
No, but it was.
John Stamos
But he. They would lean out, you know? Like.
Josh Peck
Do you think he hates Dear Evan Hansen? Like the way that you guys are talking about that core thing? Like, I don't.
Ben Schwartz
I don't hate Drake and Josh.
John Stamos
Okay. But I know I don't hate Full House.
Ben Schwartz
It gets.
Josh Peck
You're saying, sorry, Fuller House. Do you think that he hates when people come up to him and are like, I loved you and Dear Evan Hansen? As opposed to, oh, I loved you in your most recent. He went on tour Or.
John Stamos
Or.
Josh Peck
Sorry, his is probably Pitch Perfect.
John Stamos
I can't speak for him.
Josh Peck
I loved you in Pitch Perfect because that's when I found him first. Do you think he hates that?
John Stamos
I can't speak for him, but I do know that he did this big tour and didn't do one song from Dear Evan Hansen. Yeah, I think. Don't, you know, pelt me with shit like the Olsen Twig firing. I mean, Jesus Christ.
Josh Peck
Which, by the way. Come on. Why are we pelting you? It doesn't make any sense. Eight month old. They're gonna. People are gonna come after me for comparing babies to dogs. But if you have a barking dog on set, you get a new dog.
Ben Schwartz
What? No.
John Stamos
Am I gonna get dragged away? So.
Josh Peck
So I was like, I want no part of this.
Ben Schwartz
Am I in Ayahuasca?
John Stamos
You did lick A frog on the way in.
Ben Schwartz
Where am I?
John Stamos
Oh, I have a funny story about that. So I'm flying home from Spain with the Beach Boys. And. Yes. Do you tell your wife I do play with the Beach Boys?
Josh Peck
Oh, she knows. She knows.
John Stamos
It just wasn't in our zeit. It wasn't in our orbit that you played for 40 years. I get it. Yeah.
Josh Peck
That would know. That was a missile.
John Stamos
That's a. That's egotistical. A lot of people don't know. And that. That makes sense. It's super cool. It's my greatest. Next to my wife and my kids. My greatest accomplishment, I think.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
John Stamos
You tour? It depends. But I've been doing a lot this year. We just played Riot Fest a couple weeks ago, and it was like 50, 60,000 people under 50, probably just loving the beach. I'm so proud to be playing that music now because it's so needed. Optimistic positivity. Wouldn't it be nice? Good Vibrations. There was a. There was a mosh. Someone sent me a video right in the middle of a mosh. I'm sorry. Only thing I regret at that concert was not jumping into the crowd and having them pass me around. Yeah, but kids can't have anything in the pockets. Is that what it is?
Ben Schwartz
They're gonna get pickpocketed for sure.
John Stamos
Wiener grabs, too.
Josh Peck
We hope.
Ben Schwartz
I don't wanna lose an iPhone. I have a new one.
Josh Peck
If you're lucky.
John Stamos
So cool.
Josh Peck
I've moshed emo night. I've told you that story.
John Stamos
There was this.
Josh Peck
Not even kidding.
John Stamos
There was this moshed group of. You moshed at emo night? Yeah. Emo Phillips. Yeah.
Josh Peck
You think? Just like some 41 fat lip me and just like a bunch of guys running in a circle, bashing into each other. Yeah. And then they picked me up like I was their fearless leader.
Ben Schwartz
Whoa.
John Stamos
Yeah. What's the point? What's the point of.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
John Stamos
They're hitting each other.
Josh Peck
They're in the hospital.
John Stamos
They're kidding. You're not. Maybe you're a big guy. What's the. You lost weight since last time?
Josh Peck
Oh, yeah.
John Stamos
Oh, yeah.
Josh Peck
I'm actively on the newest glp. You pick it. First it was Ozempic.
John Stamos
Okay.
Josh Peck
And I went off. Now I'm on Zepbound.
John Stamos
How much have you lost since the last time I saw you?
Josh Peck
Maybe like £10 since I saw you.
John Stamos
You look great. You look very healthy.
Josh Peck
I appreciate it. Thank you very much. You too.
John Stamos
And so you're going back from. So I'm flying back from Spain and I get A text from Neil Marin, and luckily, you know, I had Wi fi. And he says, you want to be a hero? I'm like, no. He says, well, Josh got Covid and this was a Wednesday night, and. And we want you to come in to Jesus Christ Superstar and replace him. Hold on a second. What songs did. Some of the songs. I googled the songs. It's a lot of talk. I could talk through a lot of it.
Ben Schwartz
And did you know the songs at all?
John Stamos
Not at all. Wow. And. Or the choreography. And so I land on Late Late wins. The middle of the night, Wednesday, Thursday. I get up, I go, I can't do this. What am I doing? I'm insane. Cynthia and Revo. Who else was in it? Adam Lambert. Like, just great, you know, And I didn't know the show that well either, but anyway, so I'm taking a pee in my bathroom. I have a Broadway bath. You should come over, Ben. You would like it. Love. I have some posters and stuff. And the great Liza Minnelli. Who's ever dropped Liza Minnelli's name on this podcast, by the way? Anybody?
Josh Peck
Another great.
John Stamos
And she signed my Bye Bye Birdie script and said to John, take no prisoners. And the wounded Liza May. I said, I gotta do this.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
John Stamos
We go to the bowl early that morning, get miked up, teleprompters fired up, and I sing it. I sing the out of the song. It's great choreography, everything. Boom. That is great job. So they're doing a run through at 11, and they're letting about 500 people from the, you know, kids for free to come in and watch the dress rehearsal. I'd. I'd met Cynthia and Revo like, a long, long time ago, but I didn't know so I could say hi. I didn't know, Adam, hi to everybody. So we go through. So they start dress rehearsal. And now I hadn't seen any of this stuff, but I'm watching on the monitor and I'm like, oh, my God, this is like Cindy. She got a standing ovate. A five minute standing ovation in the middle of the show. Yeah, she finished this song. She looked in the cameras and she's sweating and crying, and people are just going crazy. I go out to do my song, feeling pretty confident. Now I have my full outfit on. I got the afro wig and glasses and gold man. And the way the sun is at this point, it's shining on the teleprompters, and I can't see a fucking word. I got Cynthia two feet in front of me. And I'm singing to her, oh, so you're the great Jesus Christ. The great Jesus Christ. The whole song is to her. And she's laying on the. On the floor and I'm going, jesus Christ thing. And she's looking at me like this. And the people are looking around, and I just can't see the prompter at all. And she's mouthing the words to me, and I just kind of stumble through it. And I run off stage and they finish the show. I don't come out for curtain call because I was. I was just disoriented. I was like, what the. She leaves. Sergio says, john, come back, come back. Let's fix this. Let's move the teleprompters. Let's get it right. I do it. I knock out of the park. Everybody's okay, great. Meanwhile, Cynthia had not seen this. She didn't see it right. She gets on the phone. I don't care how sick Josh is, Get him back. No. Yeah. Wow. And Adam, I think, felt the same way. And I don't blame them. If it was me watching some new guy come in and stumble through this important song. It was an important part of the play.
Ben Schwartz
Are you at that point, do you want to quit? Do you want to run in, reassure her? Be like, I swear to God, there.
John Stamos
Was very little time. And I just sort of heard this through the rumblings of that Pat was with me, and I don't know why. I was kind of so jet lagged. It didn't bump me. And I was like, I'm gonna show every person in this place that I can sing the out of this song, and I'm gonna go out and do my best. My wife was petrified. My senior coach was petrified. Pat, who's here, was. So they were all right. I mean, everybody was very afraid.
Josh Peck
I know, I know.
Ben Schwartz
It worked out. And I'm terrified.
John Stamos
In a crazy story. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So it's me watching Oppenheimer. I'm like, do we win?
John Stamos
Right?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
And so he. Pat says, don't worry, boss, I got this. And he goes out, they get the prompter set up, because I'm gonna make sure you can see these. Now. Before the show started, we were out there trying to figure it out. They brought the prompters out, realized that they're in front of. There's tables, people sitting in front of them. I go, pat, what if they get. The fraudulent people are sitting him, oh, don't worry, boss, I'll move over. Then they put flowers, like, about this big in front of, don't worry, boss. I got this. I got. So he goes out. They put the prompters out during intermission, was it? Or. And, yeah. And he talks to the people. He says, look, John's got to see these. Do you mind? Oh, Mr. Oh, I didn't know. Choms. Yes. They move out of the way. Everybody moves out of the way. I get. I walk out to go on. And I could see through the stairs, through the set, that I could see them bright and clear. Great. Jesus Christ. Like, I got this. I went out there. Boom. And everybody came running to me backstage like, oh, my God. You were saying, Andrew Lloyd Webber is in the. In the, you know, box, right in front. He comes back and says, that's fantastic. I can't believe he pulled that off.
Ben Schwartz
And, you know, when I see Cynthia Erivo sing, it's like. It's just like God's talking.
John Stamos
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
You know, what's that like in person? Does it seem as effortless as it looks? What's her process like?
John Stamos
Yeah, she's very quiet, you know, she's very, you know, very focused. And, you know, you learned that from the greats. When you. You were on the set, you told me. I said, what's Matt Damon? What was Robert Downey Jr. Like? They're super focused, right?
Ben Schwartz
Yes.
John Stamos
And then, you know, obviously the director and stuff, so it's hard for me. I've gotten better, as you probably know. It's hard for me to not joke around and not goof off stuff. It's just my nature. But sometimes you just. At the. At the risk of not being the most friendly guy on the set, you know, you got to put it into the. And I think that she was that way. She was very sweet after she and Billy was there. My son, and he's into theater now. And Kristin Chenoweth and Cynthia were kneeling down to say hi. Well, Kristen wasn't, but Cynthia was kneeling. You know, she's smaller. They're both little. And they were talking to Billy about theater, and it was. I. You know, just heaven made me. I was so proud.
Josh Peck
And, wow.
John Stamos
Billy was talking about to me. He's like, dad, I really love tech. I said, billy, tell me that you love tech. Do you love tech?
Ben Schwartz
Like, the lights and.
John Stamos
Yeah, when you have to, like, stand.
Ben Schwartz
There, I used to tell my mom, I want to be the lighting guy for the school plays. And my mom said, not you.
Josh Peck
Over my dead body.
Ben Schwartz
She said, you think I'm gonna get in a taxi to see you run the curtain your Tevia put on your Dancing shoes and warm up after me. La la la.
John Stamos
Did you do theater as a kid?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
Did you?
Josh Peck
Oh, no.
Ben Schwartz
So you. You have a. Another big Hollywood bowl theater performance coming up.
John Stamos
Nightmares. It's coming on the 25th and 26th of October. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Huge. Go check it out. You know, awesome.
John Stamos
You. I get Josh Gad was out. So they. What's the next logical choice? Stamos. Peewee Herman passed away, rest his soul. So he can't do Night Before Christmas. Next logical choice? Peewee Stamos. And so I'm doing. Doing that. I'm actually. I'm trying to learn the words to this song. Do you know the movie?
Josh Peck
We need more people to get sick and die.
John Stamos
That's what we need.
Ben Schwartz
Right.
John Stamos
Who else? I don't know.
Josh Peck
Who can we wish ill on?
John Stamos
But you get to do these things. And I don't know about you. Like, what's the. If you played in front of big crowd. Not really. Huh?
Ben Schwartz
Not really.
John Stamos
Yeah. And I was gonna say we did the.
Ben Schwartz
We did. We did the Rosen shingle. Yeah, we did. We did Jewish Conference.
John Stamos
Okay.
Josh Peck
No, yeah. We did a live podcast at the US Open. That was pretty cool.
John Stamos
Oh, yeah, yeah. He was there. We were texting him.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. But it's like, I don't know, like doing, like hosting the Teen Choice Awards.
John Stamos
Right? Yeah. Right.
Ben Schwartz
Doing that kind of stuff.
John Stamos
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I think I'm nervous, but I'm always nervous.
John Stamos
You're nervous right now. Right.
Ben Schwartz
I'm just going to buy sparkling water. So I'm dying to hear about. Speaking of getting to work with some greats, you also have a new show coming out on Apple. Very exciting.
John Stamos
My show, but I'm on the second season of Palm Royale. Did you ever watch that?
Josh Peck
I haven't seen the show. I'll watch it when I get home.
John Stamos
It's one of those shows where you get up and you, you know, go to work one day and I met. I'm working with Kristen Wiig. I play kind of her love interest for a minute there.
Ben Schwartz
Cool.
John Stamos
I play a lawyer slash gynecologist. And that fits.
Ben Schwartz
And how do you start the friendship with her? Do you go now? As soon as Covid hits. Is it your idea to do the song? Remember this? Imagine all the people.
Josh Peck
Oh, my God, Do I remember Idea.
Ben Schwartz
Who's. Whose idea?
John Stamos
You know, it's funny.
Ben Schwartz
It's easy if you try. The hospitals are overcrowded.
John Stamos
Yeah, that didn't go over well for them. But look, it started with. We're in the makeup trailer and we're talking about Somehow, I guess it was around this time. We can talk about this if you guys want to.
Josh Peck
It's funny.
John Stamos
I ended up at Mar A Lago, right?
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yes.
John Stamos
And I. Somehow we were talking about this, and I was sort of telling my side of the story, and she was like, oh, my God. Yeah, I know that's bad. She's the greatest, by the way. Like, you want to talk about, like, someone who's as talented and nice as her? Like, it doesn't. She's Was the best. And I got. Most of my stuff was with her, you know. So I said, well, you never dealt with any of that kind of. You're like, you have a clean wreck. Nobody's ever. She goes, well, I did that song. I was like, oh, yeah. But I think I felt like Wonder Woman got more of the hit for that than, say, a Kristen Wiig. Right? What's her name?
Josh Peck
Yeah, I think everybody got a hit for that.
Ben Schwartz
Everybody who was in pretty much got.
John Stamos
Like, you know, like, come on. Like, I mean, I can't defend that. I don't know that story very well, but it's easy.
Josh Peck
People are annoying. The truth is, it was obviously made to just, like, have some levity. And people are just the worst. And they're like, this is going to make us feel better about people dying. No, that real. That wasn't. That probably wasn't the intention.
John Stamos
Mar A Lago was doing a benefit. They moved locations. Not the last minute, but, you know, halfway through. Mar A Lago.
Ben Schwartz
No, you.
John Stamos
I was in a benefit for nurse. For the. For the health care and in Florida, which I thought was great.
Ben Schwartz
Right.
John Stamos
And I got to. Which is the more interesting part of the story. I spent the day with Howard the day before, because he lives. Yeah. Howard Cern. And it was one of those great days where it was just the two. Beth was there, we had a great lunch, and then him and I just sat and played guitar for an hour and talked. And, like, it just. That hasn't happened in forever, you know, just the two of us. And it was one of my favorite afternoons ever. I just love the guy. I know you do, too. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
At his little shanty in Palm Beach.
John Stamos
Yeah. A little shack, but so that was part of it. And then they moved it over there, and I thought, well, he's not going to be there. And, you know, half of my fans are Republican, you know, which is fine. They moved the benefit from the venue.
Ben Schwartz
So I just imagine. Same as being like. So it's not at the Ramada.
John Stamos
It's not with The Ramada. Yeah, it was at the, I think it was originally at Break the Breakers or something, but it was there in Palm Beach. Anyway, I thought, well, somebody gets a picture of me. And I think what, what, what busted it out was that somebody. So he happened to be there that night, Mr. Trump, Mr. President. And he, and he was, it was a fundraiser or something. So someone said that I was there raising money for him, you know, and then you're caught in the middle. It's like, you know, I'm not maga. People know me, know, you know, where my beliefs are.
Josh Peck
The common theme here is that people are really annoying. Like, that's it.
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We'll be right back right after this.
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Ben Schwartz
Are we back? I've been with dudes.
John Stamos
We're not back yet.
Ben Schwartz
We're not back yet.
John Stamos
That was a Charlie Sheen documentary. Was interesting. Did you watch that?
Josh Peck
I loved it.
Ben Schwartz
It was so good.
Josh Peck
I loved it and I watched it.
John Stamos
So good. It was a great. So good. That did come off charming. And you loved him at the end.
Josh Peck
Of the day and his relationship with his drug dealer. The drug dealer saved his life. It's the best story I've ever heard. That's a Hallmark.
John Stamos
But who has a fat drug dealer? Like, he's. This guy was a heavyset guy, God bless him. But, you know, he didn't partake, I guess.
Ben Schwartz
No, he partook. That's how you know you're really good at doing drugs.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
When you realize you can eat through uppers, what do you.
John Stamos
What do you know through. What do you know about being fat, doing drugs?
Ben Schwartz
Oh, nothing. Can we go back to the first great woman that you worked with? First or second?
John Stamos
Tony Geary from Luke and Laura.
Ben Schwartz
Aunt America's aunt.
John Stamos
Oh, back, back.
Josh Peck
Aunt, Aunt.
John Stamos
Aunt Lori.
Ben Schwartz
Lori.
John Stamos
You love Lori, don't you? Here's somebody. 40 years I've known her and I, you know, you can see through people after a few years that this woman's a saint. Like she has never, you know, it's just hard to see her going through. I'm just heartbroken for her right now. I feel that's what you're gonna ask about. I mean, look, all I'm gonna say is that I. I really tried to be there for her during this time. And also with the. With the college scandal, I mean, I'm not going to debate whether she had much to do with it or not. I know she didn't.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
I know that she took a lot of the heat that her husband brought to that family. Massimo never been a big fan of that guy. I mean, he dragged her through that. Maybe she saw something. I don't know. But the reason why I know I get a. I get a text around 5am from my friend Roger Lodge, who's into The. You know. And he said, is Lori okay? I was like, I kind of woke up and. Because when you get a. Is Lori okay?
Josh Peck
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So scary.
John Stamos
Yeah. I said, I thought. What happened? I said, well, no, nothing. She's okay, but I guess she's involved in some college getting her kids into sc. I don't know anything about that. So I start. I stay up, I start Googling it and I catch a few things. Couldn't really understand it. It was complicated, you know, that somebody. They went to this guy Rick Singer, and he. He was trying to get their kids into their school and, you know, I wouldn't know anything about college because I didn't go right.
Ben Schwartz
Graduate.
John Stamos
Did you?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. I.
Josh Peck
What I'd say is this is a. This is a pretty normal thing. By the way, paying money to donate things to help potentially influence admissions is a very common practice, which is, again, I'm probably gonna be on the wrong side of this in the comments, but it was so, in my opinion, completely overblown. Like, if you're going to take. She was just like the.
John Stamos
She was the poster child.
Josh Peck
She was the poster child for something that's been happening forever. But the reason that there are wings named after people is because they gave $25 million. And, oh, just by chance, everyone in the family goes, right.
Ben Schwartz
Like, that's.
Josh Peck
That just is what it is.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, but I get a.
Josh Peck
White residents, like, everybody.
John Stamos
I could still understand people being upset that their kids, you know, got great grades and they didn't get better, but I don't think I. Honest. I know because. So I called her then. She was in Canada doing a. Something for Hallmark.
Ben Schwartz
That'll be me soon.
Josh Peck
Yes.
John Stamos
And she. And I said. I said, are you. Are you okay? She goes, yeah. Why? I said, well, this is college scandal. I don't understand what it was. She goes, yeah. You know, recently I saw a couple emails come through about it. This was the morning of. And it broke. And she's not a liar, you know, she said, saint. And she. And I said, oh, well, I. I guess there's some. Some stuff going on about it. And she goes, massimo handles all that stuff. And, you know, and. And then I hear this kind of beep. I said, you hear that beep? She goes, yeah, I think my phone might be bugged. I'm like, sorry, I'm going through the can hand to go.
Ben Schwartz
And so John's like, wait, did I relapse? Black people in the bushes?
John Stamos
Yeah. And so I turned the TV on and then this press conference hits and. And you know, it hits hard. This guy's up there saying, lori and Ma, they've felons. And I texted her back. I said, are you watching this press conference? And I had the text. I could show it to you. She goes, what press conference? I said, the one about you and your husband and this college scandal. She goes, no, what channel is it on? I swear to God, I hit all caps, all channels, every channel. And then it broke. And that's the last I heard from it for a while, you know, and then. And then I think right around that time, they busted and got Massimo out of their guns and stuff. She goes to prison for this for three months, right? And he goes, for whatever. And in typical Lori fashion, I said, how was it? She goes, you know, I met a lot of nice ladies in there. We have a book club. That's her. You know, she didn't deserve to be dragged through that. I don't know. I. You know, I believe that she really did that. I know for a fact it was. It was all him. And. And I think even the girls, you know, they were like, okay, you know, I know you knew Olivia.
Ben Schwartz
Her girls are awesome.
John Stamos
Good. I don't think. I don't think Olivia wanted to go to college. I can't speak for her, but it seems like she was doing great with her YouTube and Megan. So now this thing comes up, you know, all of a sudden, there's. They're split up, and. And I know she's. She's just devastated. And for a girl who, you know, has lived her life really well, a good person, a good mother, a good wife, I know all this for a fact to be thrown into now, this separation and, you know, exploding, blowing up her family this way. And I just hate to see her go through this. I really do. And I just.
Ben Schwartz
How do you and your wife, Caitlin, like, how do you guys. How do you offer support? It's. It's not in a clear thing all the time with something like this, right?
John Stamos
Yeah. She lives down. She lives in my neighborhood. Lori.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
And so, you know, I was over there a lot, and she come. Came to our house, you know, a couple times. And Caitlin's been, you know, good about it. It's. It's tough because, you know, this is a friendship. And there was never, you know, a lot of people, oh, you guys were romantic or, you know, I happen to say she was the one that got away in something. And, you know, it was. I think it was before McCaitlin. And, you know, it was an interesting thing I wrote about in the book, I, I. There was very little. There was a very small window of the two of us being single at the same time, you know, and, you know, I was more. And the way. I don't mean to belittle it or. Or pare it down to a Grease, but. But Lori was Sandy, you know. Sandy.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
You know, before the. Before the leather and all that stuff, before that song. And Rebecca Romaine was. Was Sandy in the leather and the. Tell me about it stud, you know, and I. And I really. There was a moment where there was. I had the choice, I think, and I was more into, you know, the. The rebellious. Laurie was so sweet, and I loved working with her, but it was just too. She was too nice for me.
Ben Schwartz
Sure.
John Stamos
And I said, I'm going to go down this path. That's sort of what happened. And that was that. That was it. There was never. I always thought that we made out on some ride at Disneyland. I've known her since the early 80s, you'd remember. I remembered she said it didn't. I think she said it didn't happen. So I don't know if it's just something I made up in my mind.
Ben Schwartz
You know, somebody made out with Jennifer Love Hewitt in the early 2000s.
John Stamos
You did? Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I was probably a Popeyes ordering an extra biscuit in my mind.
John Stamos
Right.
Josh Peck
Didn't happen.
John Stamos
You know, she was.
Josh Peck
Was about.
Ben Schwartz
I was in love with her. Sweetheart, she still looks great, but, like.
John Stamos
We never, you know, it was always platonic. And there's no, you know, now that she's. You were asking what you asked earlier, like, now that she's single, what, you know.
Josh Peck
Oh, yeah. Would you bring her into the fold? A lot of. I asked, like, do we have questions for John Stamos first? The biggest question was, come on. And Becky, Bring her in. Bring her into the threesome. Would you be a polygamist? That wasn't what they asked. They asked if you'd leave your wife for her. Oh, we're not doing that.
Ben Schwartz
Of course.
Josh Peck
No way.
John Stamos
No. But as a friend, I'm not. I'm not Mormon.
Josh Peck
Okay, so now do you do that with your wife? I don't. I don't.
Ben Schwartz
We're sitters.
Josh Peck
Swingers. We're singers.
Ben Schwartz
Just in general. Like, have you seen other couples who've tried to sort of have these.
John Stamos
It never works.
Ben Schwartz
It never does.
John Stamos
Yeah, I don't. I can't think of any specific. I mean, I actually. I guess I have a. I actually have a couple friends. I have two or three sets of Friends that are swingers and they somehow make it work. Yeah, weird. But it's better.
Josh Peck
They both have to want to swing. I feel like the problem is more often than not one person really encourages the other. Like, yeah, I think this is a good idea. Let's try it. And the other is so into monogamy.
John Stamos
And then it's never, the grass is never greener, you know? Yes. I'm telling you. Oh, I know, but it's, you know, it's, it's. I just hate. It's heartbreaking. And you have, you know, we've been there for her and obviously and you know, she was married 27, 28 years and her kids, you know, they're, they're good girls as, as we spoke and she's been beautiful. But you know, I told her, I said look, look, like all the whatever negativity or hard hardships that you've been through, your life is connected to this guy. You know, Like, I mean, and this guy's.
Josh Peck
He's supposedly not a very good guy. Like, I think he cheated on him.
John Stamos
Her. Right. You know, I'm taking the fifth on that. But I, but I, it, whatever he did to her, it busted her up to the core. Yeah. And, and she put up with a lot over the years of this guy. And you know, again, I'm not going to get into the relationship. It's not, not my business. I mean, you know, I know a lot and I was by her side through a lot of it. She is an angel and she, she always made things better. She cleaned everything up. She made. He said, look, he's, he's a very successful dude. You know, I, I will never talk to him again. He has, he's a terrible narcissist and I don't think you ever get out of that unless you're, you're able to. And then, you know, I know a little about his history, you know, his family a little bit. I think that I, I think when you have a wife like that and a, and a family like how do you do that? How do you, how do you bust that up? And, and he, you know, never has.
Ben Schwartz
To do with the other person. It's always something in you.
John Stamos
Right.
Ben Schwartz
People throw away such a beautiful life person.
John Stamos
Exactly.
Ben Schwartz
Always. Because nothing can fill that God sized hole.
John Stamos
And here's.
Ben Schwartz
Say again, nothing can fill that God sized hole.
John Stamos
Right.
Ben Schwartz
See where your mind's going. But it's true.
John Stamos
No 100%. And, and you. We've been there and, and we pulled out of it because kicks keep getting Harder to find.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
When you've done everything and you've accomplished every. I had a list. And of course, you know, when I was drinking a lot, the list didn't include having a beautiful wife and a child, you know, but it was like, I've done everything. I played with the Beach Boys. I've had sitcoms. I remember thinking very clearly that if I die, it's okay. I've done it all. Yeah, I didn't want to kill myself, but if I die tomorrow, I did everything, which I didn't. That's such a selfish bullshit.
Ben Schwartz
It was believable. When you would say that before you met Caitlin, you said it to me like some guys say it. And I'm like, you work at H and R Block. What did you do? You did all the spreadsheets you're gonna do. You would say that. And it was almost like a little. Not menacing, but it had an air of like, oh, I hope that doesn't happen, because he's kind of right. He had. You had done everything.
John Stamos
And you have too now, and I have too. And you just. You have to go inward and you have to stop trying to fill that hole that. That. That kick, you know, you.
Josh Peck
You.
John Stamos
It's. It's an addiction that you have to control, just like all our other addictions. And I. And I. Here's what I. Here's what the honest to God truth. I pray for this guy. I pray that he gets a hold of his. Whatever hole that he's trying to fill, however he's trying to fill it. I pray that he realizes that what he had was. Was everything that anyone could ever hope for and that he gets some help. I think this guy needs help. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
And. And to Laurie's credit, you know, we've been to so many lovely gatherings at your house with beautiful people that you have that surround you. But there's always going to be people there that are sort of interested in sort of the fame and notoriety of the kind of people that can sometimes be at these parties. And Laurie always made it her business to, like, take time with me and my wife and really wanted to know us. And my wife, who's such a great gauge of bullshit, was like, that lady reminds me of a friend of my mom's. Like, that's someone who. I would go over to their house and she'd be like, what are we having for dinner, girls?
John Stamos
That's her. Yeah. And what did Paige think of Massimo at that party?
Ben Schwartz
Not sure. I don't think. Honestly. Honestly, I don't think either of us have spent barely any time with him. Should we get to our what are you nuts?
Josh Peck
Ooh, yeah, our what are you nuts? Moment? Gripes with people, places and things. While you were walking here, you looked at somebody like, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? Have anything?
John Stamos
Me and Saget used to. I think it was Dave. It's like, you're nuts. Let me finish. In this light, look beautiful. You know, it's like, what are you nuts? Hanging out the window or something.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
We were doing so good with this podcast. And then we go to the questions, these silly questions.
Ben Schwartz
This is how we ended. People love this segment. This is the segment. Give me a second to think.
John Stamos
All these. All these podcasts are so great. You get the deepest, most, you know, heartfelt, beautiful conversations. Okay, quick, what's the 10 sugar things that. What's the sweetest thing you ever eaten? You know, it's like, I don't care. I poured my heart out.
Ben Schwartz
John. John. Cosplaying someone who listens to podcasts is so cute.
John Stamos
I. If it's true crime, I listen to true crime podcasts.
Josh Peck
Okay, we should start doing a true crime segment. My, what do you know? It's a moment. I land in LA Waymo. You know this Waymo. I look to the left, there's nobody driving the car. We don't have this in New York. And let me tell you, somebody. Have you guys taken Waymo? Have you taken a Waymo?
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah, it's excellent.
Josh Peck
It's one of the scare. You need it. Why are you taking Waymo?
Ben Schwartz
Oh, because I don't want to have to do this. Hi, Rick. You turn the music down. It's a little Rick.
Jordan Sparks
Rick.
John Stamos
I brought some deodorant today.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, exactly.
Josh Peck
I'd much rather talk to Rick. You think that have a driverless car, A complete. What are you nuts? I'm sorry.
Ben Schwartz
Maybe this.
Josh Peck
In 10 years, somebody will show me this and, like, Ben, you're nuts. No. What if it goes off the rails?
John Stamos
Let me finish.
Josh Peck
I don't want it. What are you nuts?
John Stamos
It was originally called John Waymos Sumos.
Ben Schwartz
I like that.
John Stamos
But okay, change it to Waymos because, okay, John's Waymos. I had a guy, you know, you're talking about, like, when people, you know, are just being shitty and they see a good guy or whatever, and they want to take the piss out of us like they people have done with us. Not you, Ben.
Ben Schwartz
No, they've come for back.
John Stamos
They'll come for you after this.
Josh Peck
No, they come.
John Stamos
It's okay to Pay your way into a college.
Josh Peck
Don't worry, they come.
John Stamos
You know, as long as you got money, who cares? The kids that have on tick tock.
Ben Schwartz
Is that you?
John Stamos
But I swear to God, this happened. I think it was last night, the night before. I'm. I'm out. I'm. It's really dark. We have a lot of Halloween things. And there was. It was a party going on in our neighborhood, a bunch of kids, and it was very dark, and I'm outside. I just walked out and I was putting up, doing a Halloween thing, and these group of kids come walking down the trail, and I hear someone go, oh, hey, John Stamos lives there. And one of the other kids says, you mean John Lamos? And, oh, it's good. Okay. What do you. And. And I went in and I was laughing about it. I told Caitlin and Patton, and they were like, oh, my. Caitlin. So felt. So I go, them. I'm John St. Look what I come home to. I got a career. I got a beautiful wife. I got a beautiful. And that's. Sometimes you have to say that to yourself, right? Josh is like, go ahead, make fun of me all you want. I'm me. Like, I. I came to play with the Beach Boys.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
John Stamos
Like, I'm still relatively, you know, relative, like, working with great people. Like, I got the most beautiful wife and kid at home. Call me Lamos. Call me whatever the you want. Call me something.
Josh Peck
They're calling you something.
John Stamos
Well, I don't. Maybe not.
Ben Schwartz
At least it's still Greek. Lamos, my witty nuts is people getting a massage in the middle of the mall. It's such a pretty.
John Stamos
It's a private thing.
Ben Schwartz
And there are these chairs. I literally. I was walking in the mall the other day with both my sons, and this woman goes, you want a massage? And I go, and where will they go?
John Stamos
Yeah, what are they going to do?
Ben Schwartz
They're going to. What are you nuts?
John Stamos
Yeah, what are you nuts?
Ben Schwartz
Like, but she's like, no, no, we got the chair.
John Stamos
And so you took your pants off and did it.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, it was wonderful.
John Stamos
K, stand by. Oh, my gosh. I always thought, like, josh, here's a secret about two of us. You guys might like this. Years ago, we used to sneak away to a tanning booth. Josh, it was fair. We didn't tell anybody.
Ben Schwartz
Sundance to go in the Valley.
John Stamos
And we would text each other, like, pictures of our feet in the. And it was great.
Ben Schwartz
John. John would just write me, I'm in our secret place.
Josh Peck
That's what we call the tanning booth.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, right. And the guy who worked there would be like, yo, Stamos was just here.
John Stamos
Yeah. To be so quiet.
Ben Schwartz
And he'd be like, he gave me 20 bucks. That's what's up.
John Stamos
And Josh. Oh, my boy Josh. That's how we found out we both were going to the same tenny booth. They were telling. I was like, do you go to that tenny booth? It was so funny. But I was saying, like, you can't take your kid to that. What are they going to do? 10 minutes. Not fun right now.
Josh Peck
Love you, dude.
Ben Schwartz
Thank you for doing.
John Stamos
I love you guys. I'm really very proud of you and I'm so excited that you got a three year contract. I don't know if you've talked about that yet on here, you ad nauseam, but I'm here to announce Good Guys has been picked up for three years. And it's because they are good guys and they're talented and they're interesting and they're funny and they're cute and they're good singers and I love them both.
Josh Peck
Love you one a little more than great John Stamos. The great John Stamos, folks. This episode is 5 stars. Otherwise. What are you, nuts? You see, we tie it all in. Listen to us wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube, share our clips Instagram and TikTok Mondays on and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time.
Jordan Sparks
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Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer | Guest: John Stamos
Date: October 20, 2025
This episode welcomes iconic actor John Stamos for a candid, heartfelt, and often hilarious deep dive into his life, career, enduring friendships, and the challenges he and those close to him have faced. Topics range from behind-the-scenes Hollywood tales to personal stories of love, addiction, and navigating infamy. Stamos especially opens up about his support for Lori Loughlin during her recent divorce and the college admissions scandal, provides insights into sobriety and legacy, and shares the joys and anxieties of showbiz—from “Full House” to Broadway and beyond.
“She has never… you know, it’s just hard to see her going through…I’m just heartbroken for her right now.” (53:04)
“‘Are you okay?’ She goes, ‘Yeah, why?’… and then it broke.” (55:27–56:04)
“Call me Lamos. Call me whatever you want…I got a career. I got a beautiful wife. I got a beautiful… sometimes you have to say that to yourself.” (68:11)
“Nothing can fill that God-sized hole… We pulled out of it because kicks keep getting harder to find.” (62:35–62:56)
On “Full House” legacy:
“You don’t get to choose what triggers the zeitgeist… If people call me Uncle Jesse—great. I don’t care. To me, I’ve proven myself legitimate.” —John Stamos (18:20)
On Lori Loughlin:
“She always made things better. She cleaned everything up. She made… I will never talk to [Massimo] again. He’s a terrible narcissist and I don’t think you ever get out of that… I pray for this guy. I pray that he gets a hold of…whatever hole that he’s trying to fill… I pray that he realizes that what he had was everything anyone could ever hope for.” —John Stamos (63:56)
On support and sobriety:
“You’ve been very helpful with my sobriety over the years. I think I wouldn’t be here without you.” —John Stamos to Ben (25:45)
On embracing your past:
“I’ve done everything. I played with the Beach Boys. I’ve had sitcoms. I remember thinking…if I die, it’s okay. I’ve done it all…That’s such a selfish bullshit.” (62:56)
Comic Relief:
“I was going to go down this path…Laurie was so sweet…I loved working with her, but it was just too…she was too nice for me.” —John Stamos (58:50)
Classic John Stamos humility:
“Call me Lamos. Call me whatever the fuck you want. Call me something…I got a career, a beautiful wife, and a beautiful family at home.” (68:11)
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|-------------| | Erewhon, models, and marriage banter | 00:36-02:18 | | John Stamos' SVU/Love story with Caitlin | 02:28-11:07 | | Hallmark movie pitch, “Greek Christmas” | 03:00-06:00 | | “Full House” legacy and Olsen twins | 15:38-19:31 | | Sobriety and benders | 25:45-29:31 | | Broadway stories, Jesus Christ Superstar | 33:36-43:17 | | Lori Loughlin’s divorce & scandal | 53:00-62:56 | | Embracing fame/self-worth | 68:10-68:22 | | “What are you, nuts?” segment | 65:09-69:44 |
The episode smoothly blends heartfelt honesty, vulnerability, Hollywood inside jokes, and spontaneous riffing. John Stamos is playful and self-deprecating, but earnest about the big stuff. The hosts, Josh and Ben, bring warmth, humor, and real camaraderie, encouraging John’s candor and reflecting on their own shared histories.
This episode is an engaging, intimate, and often hilarious look at John Stamos’s life—on and off screen. He opens up about failed relationships, personal growth, and the blurry lines of public perception. His defense of Lori Loughlin is unflinching and compassionate, and his reflections on sobriety and legacy are thoughtful and inspiring. With plenty of laugh-out-loud moments and backstage stories, this is a must-listen for fans of Stamos, “Full House,” and honest, unfiltered conversations about life in—and out—of the Hollywood spotlight.