Good Guys Podcast: "Kathy Griffin is on Tinder and the No-Fly List"
Original Air Date: November 10, 2025
Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Guest: Kathy Griffin
Episode Overview
This episode is an energetic, unfiltered, and often hilarious conversation with comedian and cultural lightning rod Kathy Griffin. The trio dives into Kathy's adventures on dating apps, the challenge of dating post-celebrity, the aftermath of her infamous Trump photo, the reality of Hollywood cosmetic work, and the ups and downs of navigating public controversies. The episode weaves comic storytelling, personal insight, and sharp commentary, all with Griffin’s trademark candor.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Kathy Griffin’s Dating App Adventures
- Kathy reveals she’s on dating apps (Tinder, et al.), prompted by a dare from friends Sia and Nia Vardalos ([00:39]).
- On Sia & Nia filling out her profile:
“Sia just grabbed my phone and she goes, give me the phone. I know you better than you know yourself.” ([00:58]) - Nia cautioned Kathy against being “too honest” on her profile, especially about money and being forthright.
- On Sia & Nia filling out her profile:
- Kathy shares candidly about dating as a 64-year-old, her “banging body,” and how younger men tend to ask her out more often than men her own age ([01:30], [05:15]).
- “Why is it that guys my age, 64, never asked me out, but guys your age asked me out?” ([05:15])
2. Discussion: The Ideal Partner for Kathy
- The group builds a fantasy profile for Kathy’s future boyfriend—requirements: “a job, health insurance, and preferably richer than Kathy” ([04:06]).
- Kathy has been the “sugar mama” in past relationships and is now ready for someone to take her on fancy vacations and pick up the check ([04:21]).
- Josh and Ben joke about being the “ones that got away,” while Kathy laments that “the good ones really are good. They are really gay or married. That cliché is true.” ([11:22])
- Kathy’s deep love for old Hollywood is revealed: She throws “salon dinner parties” with guests like Sidney Poitier and Don Rickles ([08:01], [08:44]).
- The conversation morphs into a riff on their own mock relationships and the hilarity of breaking up marriages for Kathy ([16:27]).
3. Wealth, Dating, and Catfishing Anxiety
- Kathy talks frankly about her wealth and how intimidating or problematic that can be for men.
- “You can look up anything on the Internet about me. So I'm at a great disadvantage, and I'm afraid to be catfished. So right before I got here, I made a guy do a Zoom with me…” ([03:07])
- The trio jokes about their own finances, debts (or lack thereof), and the woes of being public figures ([11:45]).
4. Celebrity Encounters & Stories
- Kathy shares a run-in with Post Malone at a hotel, noting the mountain of designer bags and speculating about his shopping habits ([18:12]).
- Ben shares his own “Post Malone dinner” story: “He lights up a cigarette, and I looked at him and I said, post. And I kind of like, just preggers.” ([20:29])
- Post was charming and respectful, hurrying outside to smoke so Ben’s pregnant wife wouldn’t be exposed.
5. “Trump Head” Controversy: Fallout and Consequences
- Kathy gives the most detailed, serious section on the episode: The immediate firestorm after posting her photo holding a fake Trump-severed head ([24:00]-[37:58]).
- “I was investigated by two agencies within the DOJ…on the no Fly list, on the Interpol list…and the ISIS terror watch list, because they pushed the narrative that I was the queen of ISIS.” ([24:00])
- She reveals the legal nightmare, losing jobs (off CNN New Year's Eve), and being publicly vilified.
- Kathy reflects on apologizing under duress and now “doubling down” on her free speech:
- “My only regret with that whole incident is, for one day, I was given very bad advice…She suggested I apologize. …So I did make the mistake of apologizing for one day, and that's just been weaponized against me.” ([36:41])
6. Plastic Surgery & Hollywood Beauty Standards
- Kathy is open about her three facelifts and societal pressure on female comedians ([38:06]-[41:57]).
- Jokes about paparazzi photos mid-workout and the skyrocketing costs of high-end facelifts: “I went to Kris Jenner’s last guy, but it was not cheap. You ready? $218,000.” ([46:46])
- She discusses her friendship with Joan Rivers and the tragic nature of cosmetic surgery risks ([40:02], [44:28]).
7. Andy Cohen, Bravo, and Professional Beef
- Kathy gives a biting, yet measured, take on her issues with Andy Cohen and working at Bravo ([48:04]).
- “He won. He won the Game of Life…he was a difficult boss…If I could do it again…I would probably have been kinder and gentler with Andy.” ([48:04])
- Comments on being pushed out and replaced on New Year’s Eve by Cohen.
8. Celebrity Feuds & Making Amends
- Kathy recounts her Twitter beef with Demi Lovato (“Debbie Lovato”), which included harassment by Demi’s fans, and the eventual in-person truce ([51:09]).
- “If I can just have that one thing left, will you please forgive me? And she was like, all right. So I even hugged it out with Debbie.” ([51:12])
9. Advice Segment: The Dancing-Phobic Boyfriend
- Listener Amanda seeks advice for a boyfriend who hates dancing at weddings ([53:49]).
- Kathy, as always, is blunt: “My first husband embezzled for me, so fuck you with your—‘My husband doesn’t dance.’ Try having your husband steal your money, anyway!” ([54:48])
- Final advice: Negotiate for one slow dance at their own wedding, involve a “bro friend” to help, and don’t make it a dealbreaker ([55:52]).
10. ‘What Are You Nuts?’ Moment of the Week
- The hosts and Kathy air their pet peeves:
- Josh: “Transition lenses—what are you nuts? People shouldn’t own transition lenses.” ([57:15])
- Ben: Annoyance with group chats, especially when “one asshole has the Android” and messes up the iMessage flow ([58:17]).
- Kathy: Being dropped by Squatty Potty after the controversy:
- “Squatty Potty. The stool you put on your toilet to help you take a number two easier. They were appalled by my terroristic photo…When Squatty Potty dumps you, it's bad. You've really pissed off the president when Squatty Potty dumps you.” ([59:00])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On her dating profile:
“I, Kathy Griffin, am on the dating apps because I was dared by, you know the singer Sia Chandelier. Unstoppable…” ([00:39]) - On modern romance:
“I have been the sugar mama, and I'm ready for the guy to pick up every tab.” ([04:21]) - On being investigated:
“They were trying to charge me with the crime of conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States. I was on the no Fly list, I was on the Interpol list…” ([24:00]) - On Hollywood surgery:
“I've had three facelifts…the facelift, when I decided to talk about it on my little YouTube show, took off. I mean, I Thought that doctor was gonna propose. He was so excited.” ([38:06]) - On professional relationships:
“Andy Cohen…He won the Game of Life…He decides who the housewives are…He likes being on television. I had never worked with an executive like that…” ([48:04]) - On being dumped by Squatty Potty:
“They were appalled by my terroristic photo…Squatty Potty dumps you, it's bad.” ([59:00])
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Kathy’s dating app adventure: [00:39] – [07:01]
- Building her ideal partner: [04:04] – [11:21]
- Post Malone stories: [18:12] – [20:52]
- Trump head fallout: [24:00] – [37:58]
- Plastic surgery/Joan Rivers: [38:06] – [41:57]
- Andy Cohen/Bravo discussion: [48:04] – [50:44]
- Demi Lovato feud & forgiveness: [51:09] – [51:44]
- Advice segment (dancing boyfriend): [53:49] – [56:27]
- Pet peeves ('What are you nuts?' moments): [57:15] – [59:40]
Closing
Kathy Griffin shines in this episode, balancing self-deprecating humor, raw honesty, and sharp social observation. The hosts keep pace, making for an episode rich with laughs, genuine moments, and candid takes on both public and private life in the spotlight.
Where to find more:
- Kathy’s YouTube: Kathy Griffin Talk Your Head Off (Tuesdays)
- Patreon, Substack, social media platforms
Final note:
“Thank you for coming on.” – “I love you guys. You're so awesome.”
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