Meet Your New Therapist, ChatGPT

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – Episode: "Meet Your New Therapist, ChatGPT"

Hosts: Josh Peck and Ben Soffer
Release Date: May 15, 2025
Description: Hosted by actor & writer Josh Peck and entrepreneur & social media icon Ben Soffer, "Good Guys" dives into a variety of topics with humor and candid discussions. Tune in every Monday and Thursday for fresh episodes!

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1. The Massage Debate

Timestamp: 00:32 – 07:37

Josh and Ben kick off the episode discussing their personal experiences with massages, delving into the nuances between different types of massages and the comfort levels associated with them.

• Josh Peck [01:37]: "I don't really ever get massages, but when I do, it just reminded me that I exist."
• Ben Soffer [02:12]: "There's really nothing in the world better than a good massage."

They explore the comfort of being touched by partners versus professional massages, sharing anecdotes about their spouses' preferences and boundaries. The conversation touches on the differences between traditional massages and more intimate forms, emphasizing personal comfort and trust.

2. Navigating Work-Life Balance and Friendships

Timestamp: 11:16 – 21:48

The hosts shift focus to the challenges of maintaining friendships while managing flexible work schedules. They discuss how their non-traditional work hours affect their relationships with friends who adhere to standard 9-to-5 jobs.

• Ben Soffer [12:28]: "I'm working nine times as hard as you just because you work 40 hours a week. I'm working 24/7 even if I'm not working."
• Josh Peck [14:09]: "You have to find healthy ways in which to deal with that privately, which is therapy, spirituality, meditation, religion, working out."

Josh expresses frustration with friends who appear perpetually busy, equating constant busyness with a lack of productivity or success. Ben counters by highlighting the importance of structured yet flexible schedules and the constant availability required in their entrepreneurial roles. They emphasize the necessity of managing stress independently and the value of supportive friendships that don't become dumping grounds for personal troubles.

3. Listener Questions: Handling Drunk Driving Concerns

Timestamp: 40:50 – 44:10

A listener submits a distressing question about a friend who engages in drinking and driving, sometimes with her young child in the car. Josh and Ben provide heartfelt and practical advice on addressing this dangerous behavior.

• Josh Peck [42:12]: "Call the police. Don't be afraid."
• Ben Soffer [43:53]: "Your friends are a reflection of you... This is not a good apple."

The discussion centers on the ethical and moral responsibilities of intervening in a friend's harmful actions. Both hosts advocate for prioritizing the safety of the child and others on the road over maintaining the friendship. They suggest confronting the friend directly, seeking professional help, and in severe cases, involving law enforcement to prevent further endangerment.

4. Listener Questions: Virginity and Dating in Modern Times

Timestamp: 49:29 – 54:46

A listener shares her struggle with maintaining her virginity until she feels completely in love, seeking advice on navigating the dating scene where casual sex is prevalent.

• Ben Soffer [52:04]: "You should be hunting for your specific person... Maybe you should look in the right places, like church."
• Josh Peck [53:27]: "Make that other stuff super fun."

Olivia contributes by sharing the experiences of a friend who maintains similar values, offering encouragement and reinforcing the belief that finding a compatible partner who respects her boundaries is possible. Josh and Ben suggest focusing on creating meaningful connections and ensuring that romantic interactions are enjoyable, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and shared values in relationships.

5. "What Are You Nuts?" Segment

Timestamp: 54:46 – 56:36

In their signature humorous segment, Josh and Ben rant about everyday frustrations using their catchphrase, "What are you nuts?"

• Ben Soffer [54:55]: "What kind of shakedown is this? I'm giving you back the goods. They're in perfect condition."
• Josh Peck [56:07]: "The silence was deafening. Just say you're super shallow."

They tackle issues like strict store return policies and overcomplicated language, advocating for simplicity and straightforwardness in everyday interactions. This segment highlights their comedic chemistry and ability to turn mundane annoyances into entertaining commentary.

6. Audience Engagement and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: 56:36 – 57:20

The hosts encourage listeners to engage with the podcast through ratings and social media, emphasizing the importance of feedback.

• Ben Soffer [56:30]: "Not giving us five stars on this episode, folks. That would be nuts."
• Josh Peck [56:36]: "Listen to us."

They wrap up the episode by thanking their audience and reminding them to share the podcast across various platforms, ensuring continued support and growth of the "Good Guys" community.

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Conclusion: In "Meet Your New Therapist, ChatGPT," Josh Peck and Ben Soffer navigate a blend of personal anecdotes, listener questions, and their unique comedic takes on everyday issues. From the intricacies of massages and work-life balance to deeper discussions on friendship and personal values, the episode offers a mix of humor, practical advice, and relatable content. Their interactions with listeners' concerns provide valuable insights, while their signature humor keeps the episode engaging and entertaining for both regular and new listeners.

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Notable Quotes:

• Josh Peck [01:37]: "It just was like a hand on your shoulder after you lost the big game."
• Ben Soffer [21:48]: "Use ChatGPT and just dump your problems... you should know that."
• Josh Peck [42:12]: "Call the police. Don't be afraid."

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Transcript

[Josh]

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[Ben]

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[Josh]

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[Ben]

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[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of the good.

[Ben]

Of the good guys.

[Josh]

Muslim morons. I just got a massage the other day that reminded me that I was alive. Ben, do you. Do you get touched?

[Ben]

Do I get touched? Like, massages?

[Josh]

I know you love massages, but, like, does your wife touch you since she's been pregnant? My wife doesn't.

[Ben]

Interesting. My wife, I think, like, has never touched me more.

[Josh]

Really?

[Ben]

Yes, she has. And she will be the first person to say this. She has become. We are. We are so unbelievably attached to the point that I can't leave the house for a minute. Like, not a single minute. I went the other night. I had a friend's birthday dinner. I very rarely leave the house at night. He had invited me, and, like, this was not good. Like, by an hour in, she was like, you have to come home. And I came home. So, yeah, no, the. Literally, the polar opposite. I guess touched is different. Like, hugs and stuff. Am I getting a back rub? Of course not. What are you nuts? Like, no, no. No back rubs. I give myself a back rub, but no, like, hugs and stuff. Yeah, she. She's needed them more than ever. Is Paige the opposite?

[Josh]

Total opposite. And it was funny because I don't really ever get massages, but when I do, and I recently did, because I've just been having, like, crazy TMJ and neck pain and whatnot. And it was like. I think 15 minutes into it, where I literally felt like. It was like. It was like a hand on your shoulder after you lost the big game.

[Ben]

Yes. Yes.

[Josh]

A pat on the back.

[Ben]

There is. There's really nothing. There's nothing in world better than a good massage. Nothing. Nothing at all. Especially when they incorporate light stretching. Josh, you know how I feel about light stretching. Did she do a little light stretching?

[Josh]

She did. It was of the Thai variety, but it just was like. It was. It was as though it reminded me that I exist. I was like, oh, yeah. I.

[Ben]

Where did. Where did she focus?

[Josh]

I always go. They always go. Any areas of concern. And I go, neck and shoulders, neck.

[Ben]

And shoulders, neck and shoulders.

[Josh]

What I really want to say is, can you just give me diggy on my Arms. Yeah, but if I say that they're, you know, they look at you askance.

[Ben]

It's neck. You ever do head? Head is great. Not like asking them to give you head. Head as in cut that out. No, no, no, you're right.

[Josh]

Cause there's so many of these places that, like, men do that all the time. And as I've gotten older, it just seems more and more nuts that you would ever let someone do that to you.

[Ben]

Insanity. Complete insanity. Did you not read about Bill Belichick? It almost ruined his life.

[Josh]

Not Bill Belichick, the guy.

[Ben]

Yes. Oh, no, Robert Kraft. Okay, but Bill Belichick. Okay, but Bill Belichick just is like dating a 25 year old. I'm sure he also goes to the massage parlor. Okay. For those things. But yes, Robert Kraft. What are you, nuts? Like you're going to some random place? No, I don't trust that at all. Also, that's like going to an unlicensed chiropractor, Josh. You're going in there to have some, like, floozy give you a back rub. What if you come out with your spine's broken? No, this is not of concern.

[Josh]

I don't think so.

[Ben]

Okay. Okay, Good to know.

[Josh]

I think there are minds on many other things.

[Ben]

Well, I'm going in there, Josh, and I'm asking for a scalp massage. Okay. What do you think of scalp massage? I love them. Nice temples. And when they dig in deep over here in the temples, it's fantastic. Sometimes I'll ask for a little sinus rub, you know, up and down the eyebrows into the bridge of the nose.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

You just gotta hope that they wash their hands, otherwise you can smell their lunch.

[Josh]

No, for sure. I like. I basically, I love neck and shoulders, I love. I love feet. And like, a little leg rub is nice, but overall I'm just like very. But like, I've tried to. I don't know why. Sometimes I feel like now that I'm like a married man, I'll be like, in the interest of modesty, I'm going to wear my underwear.

[Ben]

And it's me.

[Josh]

You can't.

[Ben]

You just can't.

[Josh]

It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

[Ben]

It's actually implying that you think that there's some funny business going on. The normal thing to do is go in completely naked. Okay. Completely naked. That's normal. They're not thinking that there's any funny business going on. Honestly, the place tells you to keep your underwear on. Funny business.

[Josh]

Yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

Dirty, dirty birdie o' Clock.

[Ben]

That means that they have patrons coming in there that are wanting the wrong things. You go into a nice place, they expect you to be completely naked, and that way you're your most flexible. That way they don't have to. It's much more awkward if they slightly tug down your underwear to reach the top of your ass. Like, no, just. Just rub. Rub lower back. It's totally normal.

[Josh]

That's so interesting. Yeah. I will say, now what's your. I'm a $20 for an hour, and then if it's. If it's in 90 minutes, I'll do $40 tipping.

[Ben]

Oh, tipping. I was like, where are you going?

[Josh]

And I only get massaged in Bali, Indonesia. I just got shiatsu in Jakarta.

[Ben]

So where do you go? My place. $20 an hour. I'm like, is she like the meth head on the street?

[Josh]

I get it at the mall right next to the Claire's.

[Ben]

Yeah. Tipping okay. Yes. 20 for an hour, 30 for 90. That's good. I typically do it kind of like I'm at a. At a restaurant. Maybe it's too much, but, like, I'll typically give 20%. So, like, if it's, like, a cheaper. If it's, like, $100 massage, I'll give 20. I get really screwed when it's like one of those expensive ones where it's like $300 or something, which I very rarely do. They're not. I used to think that they were better. They're just not.

[Josh]

They're not.

[Ben]

I found this. I found this place. Josh, the next time you're in the city, Fifth Avenue Spa, it's on. It sounds fancy, but it's not. 57th between Madison and 5th. It's like the fourth floor of a building. It's $135 for an hour, but this place is class. But there's no frills, right? There's no steam room, there's no sauna, there's no pool. There's no nothing. But I don't want that. Like, I just want to go in there and get a good rub. If I need to use the cold plunge, the facilities, I go to lift method. But no, I'm not paying for that. It's not like a gym membership, you know?

[Josh]

Totally. And if it is $300 to your point, it's not because it's not for the massage. It's for everything else. It's for the Schmitz and the steam and the lemon water and the whole thing.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's like, you. You need maybe Max. Once a year, max. If you want to like have like a nice relaxing spa day. But if you're like somebody that likes massages, you're wasting your money going to places like that all the time. It's just not worth it. It's just not worth it at all. Yeah. I love them. I love them. This episode of the Good Guys podcast.

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[Josh]

Do you ever find that your friends who have more traditional nine to fives ever resent you? Not because you don't work incredibly hard, but because you don't have a formal schedule like that.

[Ben]

It's interesting that you say that. I think that because I had a formal schedule for so long, my friends still feel like I do. And with Spritz, I definitely work. I have gaps in the day, like when we'll record or if like I have something. I have more flexibility, but I still structure my day on like a 9 to 6 and I fill in the gaps. But I. It's pretty. It's pretty. It's as traditional as I can get it. Do my friends resent it? Not really. Sometimes. Like in the beginning they didn't get it. Like, I'll tell them like, oh, I'm. I'm doing. I don't know, I. I'm doing something on a Friday. And they're like, oh, must be nice. And I shot that down quick. I'm like, Shut the fuck up. Okay. Like, fucking loser. Must be nice. Like, no, I'm working like nine times as hard as you just because you work 40 hours a week. I'm working 24, seven even if I'm not working. Like, I'm always working. You're always working. You're like on a Saturday. Like, you're always thinking. Thinking is working. I think.

[Josh]

I'm very careful with this because I don't like any. I have a little bit of a pet peeve for anyone who not saying you or I do this, but in general, who, they're always busy because they're either always working. Like, my friends who are the most powerful and most successful seem to always have time for the things that matter.

[Ben]

Of course.

[Josh]

And that includes me. Right? And then my friends who are feigning busy and being busy because Instagram told them they should look busy. Those are the people where I'm like, well, you're extremely busy. But I am not seeing the results.

[Ben]

Yes. And I often find honestly that it's my least successful friends that always tell me how busy they are.

[Josh]

That's exactly right.

[Ben]

Always for a fact. No question. What I meant by my comment before was that like when you are self motivated and when you have jobs like we do, you are always on. Sure, that's more what I meant. Not always working. You always find time for the things that are important no matter what. But you're never off. Like when you work that traditional 9 to 5, Monday to Friday, you leave the office, you're so excited to not check your email until Monday. I'm so excited to check my email every single time I have my phone. Like it's a problem how often I'm on email. I wake up on a Saturday morning, I check my email because it's. I want to. Like, it's not, it's not like I don't consider it work. That's more what I meant. But yes, it's always the person who makes the least amount of money that's like, oh man, I'm so busy. I'm so busy. I'm like, why Stop it.

[Josh]

I just never, like, I'm like, I have three kids, five jobs and like, and somehow I have all the time. Like, I just figure it out.

[Ben]

It's also because you don't burden people with your stresses. There are some people who love to do that. Like they'll call and that's not that you're not an open person. I think we're both like this. Like, we'll call each other and the first thing I'll say, what's going on? Your first thing is not to tell me what's wrong. Right. You're. You're. We're. We're just going to have a normal conversation, but there are people, you call them, and you're like, hey, what's going on? And they're like, oh, awful day. And they'll go in detail, their awful day. It's just like dumping on you. Yeah, right. And I don't know, I think that, that, like, you become. You feel really, really busy when you're always stressed. I think stress plays a huge role, too, in it. Or you're just, like, always thinking and always you're like, you can't get out of your own way.

[Olivia]

Does that make sense?

[Josh]

Totally. And what do you think about? Because I've had some issues with friends as of late, who Bill Burr has this great bit of, like, you get a. What am I doing with my life? Chat with your friends. Once a year, you get one of those a year, maybe two. I'm speaking for myself. If you're an actor, okay, you get two, because it's not stupid business, but it's falling apart. But it's been a bad couple years. Oh, the writers want to strike. That'll be good. Right after Covid. Smart. No, it's good. And then we struck after. Because we're smart actors. Fucking. Who voted for that? We weren't allowed to not vote for it. Like the vaccines, but. But, you know, like, you get one or two of those a year. And it's not that I don't care about my friends who are, like, constant, constantly, it seems, going through mishigas. But as an adult, if you are of the neurotic kind, which I certainly am, it is incumbent on you to find healthy ways in which to deal with that privately, which is therapy, which is going to the Schmidt, which might be spirituality, meditation, religion, working out. There are so many avenues in which there is such a first line of defense to mitigate a lot of that inner turmoil. Misha Goss. And then if there's something really going on in your life or there's something that's really lingering, then bring it up with a friend, but don't give them the radioactive fallout. You know what I mean? Like, clean up as much as you can before you give it to me.

[Ben]

Yeah. And if you're going to ask for advice, actually want it.

[Josh]

That's right.

[Ben]

Okay. I've had enough of this because I've had this many a time where somebody comes to me With a problem, and I'm a problem solver. If you're gonna come to me with a problem, Josh, I'm going to tell you how to fix it, or I'm going to fix it for you. And you should know that. Coming to me. If you're looking for somebody to just have an ear, I'm the wrong person to know that about me. Know that if you're coming to me to complain, I'm not here to listen to you. If you're coming to me to complain and you want an actionable solution or you want me to fix your problem, I'll fix your problem.

[Olivia]

And I'll be so excited to do it.

[Ben]

Like, so excited to drive you somewhere to pick something up for you, to help you find a new job, to whatever it may be. But if it's just an ear, I hate that. I absolutely hate when somebody comes for advice and they don't want to hear it. Why'd you come to me? What are you nuts? And what you said before, Just because I think it's a general mindset thing with some people. We. When we had the great Jay Shetty on which, if you haven't listened to that episode, what are you, nuts? It was fantastic. He spoke about. I'm dead. Definitely going to butcher this. I think it was called the red balloon theory or the red car theory. It was something like that. Where it was the. The essence was, if you're always fixated on a red car, all that you're going to see is red cars. And this is a fact. If you are fixated on all of the problems in your life, all that you will see is problems in your life. I guarantee it, that if you fixate on all of the good things in your life, I don't care how horrible you think your life is, you will see better things in your life and you will consider yourself more fortunate. It is a fact, no question. And people are going to say, or maybe they. Maybe they won't, because they listen to us and they love us. But some people would say, oh, it's just because you have a great life. And it's like, no, I have great perspective on my great life, but if I wanted to wake up every single day and find problems, I could.

[Josh]

What do you think, Olivia? Do you have that in your life?

[Guest]

Yeah, I have. I definitely have had some friends who I've found have had, like, more struggle than others. And, you know, I think for me, I'm always like, I love to be the listening ear. I'm like, I will Sit here and you just tell me and, like, we'll talk about it, you know, all night, whatever. But it's like, you need to. I think the thing about that, though, is, like, you were saying, there's a window of time where it's like, okay, you need to just get this out and process it, verbalize what have you. But after that, if you're not taking the actionable steps that, you know, we maybe have come to in the conversation, you've come to on your own, whatever, it might be like, you have to take those steps because I don't want to keep having the same conversation over and over again. You know, it's like, you have to take the accountability, and I will always be there as a friend to support and encourage and cheer you on. And I'll be an ear, you know, a listening ear. But you have to be able to, like, I can't fix things for you, you know, you have to be willing to put that work in yourself.

[Josh]

I agree. And I also think it's funny. I do this with my wife and I do it with my big brother as well, but my wife especially, where I will say to her, listen, when we are done here, I'm going to do what you tell me to do, but let me make my case. I really do. I go, let me lay it all out for you, what I'm thinking. But no, I am going to do what you say. And I find that is a virtue because, again, I have friends who, like, will constantly seek my advice and never take it. And I'm like, it gets. Yeah, yeah.

[Ben]

It's like, why did you ask me? Why did you trauma dump on me just so that I could feel bad and not help you? Like, I have the ability to help you. So do you want that? That's what I mean by that red balloon, red car, whatever the fuck it is theory. It's. Whatever it is. It's like, do you want to stay in this cycle of where your life fucking sucks? If you're coming to me and I can fix something for you, but you don't want it, so then don't tell me. Just enjoy your shitty existence. Clearly, this is something that's important to me because, like, it happens. It's the worst. It's the absolute worst. God, we were such a deep podcast.

[Josh]

We are. And just to reiterate, I think as an adult, your job, if you are of the neurotic type, like, my wife isn't, like, she just saying she's not made like that. She's got her own things which every human being on this earth has. But she doesn't spin out that much about herself. She's not self centered in the extreme the way that I am. But I will say that like I have enough. And by the way, you know how if you really need an ear, like pay a therapist, they do sliding scales, you don't have a lot of money, you can find a shrink that'll do it for super cheap use.

[Ben]

ChatGPT. Use it and just dump your problems like, hey, I'm having a bad day, what's wrong? Oh, you know, blah blah, blah blah blah. Oh, you should try this. That works. You said GPT.

[Josh]

I agree. But this is all like you need a first line of defense that hopefully, unless it's an emergency or something like really out of the ordinary, that isn't a person like in your life. Your first line of defense needs to be meditating, prayer, workout, support, group therapy. Like there's so many things. Wellbutrin shadow, willbutrin well butrin XL, 150 milligrams. I'm still on my starting dose and it's working great.

[Ben]

Three years in love. Love it. That's great.

[Josh]

Love it. Time release. But you know what, around noon I go, oh man, you know I could double up. Sorry.

[Olivia]

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[Ben]

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[Olivia]

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[Olivia]

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[Ben]

I digress.

[Olivia]

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[Ben]

I ran out of food.

[Olivia]

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[Ben]

Okay?

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[Ben]

Speaking of time release, Josh, I was just told about a new product. I don't remember the name. Okay. But it's very early stage and we could invest in if we want. I was just told about this product. You ready for this extended release? Okay. Melatonin and caffeine. You take it before you go to sleep. It doses you with melatonin for the first six hours, and then starting in the seventh hour, starts to dose you with caffeine so that when you wake up, you already have a half a cup of coffee in you. How genius is that?

[Josh]

Wow. I really have to think about this here.

[Ben]

Think about it. Think about the power of extended release in things other than a traditional pharmaceutical. I was fascinated by it.

[Josh]

Okay, let me start thinking about this. So what we're talking about is a small sphere within an orb. Let's say within the ring of a melatonin is a caffeine pill. Inside of it, slowly, as it degrades in your small intestine, it's being delivered into all your systems. Here's my thought. First off, at what time do you want the melatonin to wear off? At six hours. I would guess that that would still give you a hangover.

[Ben]

I think that let's say it was less than that. I don't know the exact amounts. I just know that it doses you to go to sleep, and then it doses you to wake up.

[Josh]

But I don't think you can do that. And call it the speedball, but I don't think you can do that. I don't think taking in caffeine while you're sleeping could be anywhere good for your circadian rhythms.

[Ben]

I have no idea. All I'm saying is that some pitching it. I'm saying, I'm. I'm saying sometimes I wake up in the morning and I wish that I had had a shot of espresso already. How much better do you feel after that shot of espresso?

[Josh]

I mean, you know my ritual in the morning, right? Yes, I crack and I crack an ice cold, either prime or a Lonnie Sometimes a Celsius energy drink.

[Ben]

And I so imagine, Josh, if you cracked it while you were sleeping, so that when you woke up, you already had the Alani in you. You woke up with that Alani new feeling.

[Josh]

You've been watching too much of the Pit. You think you're a doctor now?

[Ben]

I am. I am.

[Josh]

That's crazy. Speaking of that, you know this guy, Brian Johnson, the biohacker.

[Ben]

Oh, so quickly you're out. We're not investing.

[Josh]

No, no. It's very dumb.

[Ben]

Okay. He doesn't want any more information. Okay, I'll come to you when it's a billion and we missed out and you'll say, I know, I will. It's fine. Okay. We'll pass.

[Josh]

You know, I'm not vc, Joshi.

[Ben]

We'll pass.

[Josh]

I have a scarcity complex.

[Ben]

No, you're sat. Your stat. Stat.

[Josh]

And I said I steal my in.

[Ben]

Laws, Netflix login and condoms from the obgyn. I'm nuts.

[Josh]

I think that's why they don't have snacks in the Dear Media kitchen anymore. They know that I was hoping I'm.

[Ben]

Oh, did they stop bringing them in? Yes.

[Josh]

Michael and Lauren put down a memorandum.

[Ben]

I found the tags.

[Josh]

Olivia.

[Ben]

What the shit is so bleak.

[Guest]

It's so bleak in that kitchen. It's a nightmare.

[Ben]

They look at when you're on the schedule and they hide them.

[Josh]

It's crazy.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

I would bring a small tote, but what? So what? It's like I'm at Trader Joe's. I've got my canvas back. Oh, hello, Dear Media. Thank you. You know, I think one of Lauren's sex toys she has in the lobby.

[Unknown]

Oh, good.

[Josh]

This is normal in a lobby.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Give me a mountain water and a vibrator.

[Josh]

Yes. Why? That is a double standard, Right? Because sex toys. I think we've talked about this for.

[Ben]

We have.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's for men. It's just. You're a creep.

[Ben]

100%. Like, why can't I experiment with anal beads on my spare time? Like, what's wrong with that?

[Josh]

Yes. If you're a lady, you're adventurous. If you're us, you know, all of a sudden you're a weirdo.

[Ben]

You're a weirdo.

[Josh]

Should we get to a story?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Okay. Well, I can't wait. You know, in the New York Post, this pillow is designed just for screaming into. But does it relieve stress? Basically, according to the brand, the shoutlet is like a stress ball, but you yell into it instead of squeezing it. The idea is that screaming Has a lot of benefits for stress relief. And lower stress also means better overall health. It's an instant mood lifter.

[Ben]

That is. That is what we call a gimmick. That is. I think it's like, is there something about the technology and the pillow that maybe it's not as loud? Like, why can't you scream into a regular pillow?

[Josh]

I don't know. This is so. Hold on, hold on. Let me get. Let me. I'm going to shout into the chair and see if you guys can hear it.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

Do you hear it?

[Ben]

I can hear it. And you also now have pink eye.

[Josh]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Do you know how many people have. Many people have sat in that chair before you and farted? Wow.

[Josh]

I just smelled Sheena. I just got a little wind of Gabby Windy. Shout out. Dear media host.

[Ben]

Oh, that's really funny. Yeah, I could hear, but yeah, I don't. Also shouting into a pillow.

[Josh]

I don't just shout into a gun. Have some balls. Oh.

[Ben]

Be a man. That's dark. No, it's good. It's excellent. We're not dark enough.

[Josh]

Well, people have just learned what a popular condom brand means. Durex is a company predominantly known for selling condoms and lubricants, launching its first birth control device in the 1950s. But the popular brand has existed since 1929, with the London Rubber Company registering the business name in that year. So I guess that Durex actually means or stands for. Okay. People think that Durex might have stood for durable sex or during sex, but what it really stands for is.

[Ben]

The.

[Josh]

Durex name stands for durability, reliability and excellence.

[Ben]

Durex. Love it. That is. The more you know.

[Josh]

How fun is that?

[Ben]

That is fun. The more you know. Durex. What a. What a great strong company. A great name and sex.

[Josh]

Well, did you know that my genital has changed while taking a common hair loss drug? This episode is brought to you by Nutrafol.

[Ben]

With Nutrival, you'll grow a third ball.

[Josh]

Just kidding. This did not happen from Nutrafol. We would never.

[Ben]

We would never know.

[Josh]

A 28 year old man has revealed hairy nine month struggle with a popular hair loss drug that Ben might or might not be taking, describing the mostly sexual side effects that turn his life upside down. It did happen from Finasteride. He knew friends who had been on it for years.

[Ben]

What's it called though, just in case. What's it called?

[Josh]

He got something called post finasteride syndrome, a condition in which someone experiences severe side effects after they stop using finasteride oh, boy.

[Ben]

And what happens?

[Josh]

He said he took one pill a day before he began to experience side effects, most of which were sexual. So he decided to stop taking the drug. And in a few weeks he felt normal again. And three months later, he experienced a sharp burning pain in his pelvic area. A symptom that intermittently persisted for months before going away.

[Ben]

But. So it went away. It sounds like this guy is looking for things to complain about. Okay? Like you were bald. You needed to do something about your male pattern baldness because you were ugly and you should stop complaining. Ok? Like you're fine. So you have a burning pelvis. At least your hair looks good.

[Josh]

Wait, and then he said all of a sudden he experienced a crazy high libido. So he assumed it had just taken six months for the drug to fully flush out of his system. Then on July 9, something just turned off. He said I was literally impotent for three weeks. A month later, I started getting crazy insomnia for 10 days straight. It was hell. I was shit scared. Nuts.

[Ben]

This guy is nuts. Okay.

[Josh]

He also experienced severe weight and muscle loss. His genitals changed and the pelvic pain returned with a vengeance, rendering him unable to sit properly.

[Ben]

Okay, is it possible that, like, this guy is blaming this drug, but, like he has a real disease? Like, I don't know, I don't know what osteoporosis is, but it sounds like he could have osteoporosis.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Do you know what osteoporosis is, Josh?

[Josh]

Yeah, it's your bones losing calcium. Brittle bones.

[Ben]

It told you that's what it sounds like he has.

[Josh]

Well, our last story is Gen Z is bringing back sexy porn fetish, but critics warn it's promoting dangerous body trend. Basically tan lines. People are into tan lines, by the way.

[Ben]

Me too.

[Josh]

Me too. They're hot.

[Ben]

They're fucking hot.

[Josh]

Okay, let's, let's, let's try to reverse engineer why we think they're attractive. What do you think, Ben?

[Ben]

Oh, wow, that's a great question. First and foremost, everybody looks better with a tan. No question. We don't want to see your marshmallowy skin. Go to the beach, sit on your terrace. Just look at the sun. Okay? Look at the sun. Get a nice tan. I think that tan lines, I have no idea that they're fucking hot, but I don't know why unless I get them. Then it's like, why does Ben of a farmers and glasses tan, but when other people get them, they're hot.

[Josh]

Yeah, like when I Get a tan line from my Casio watch. And there's just like a nice little tail buckle right here. I agree. I, My, my armchair theory is that there's a couple things. One, it gives place. So it's giving vacation, it's giving summer, it's giving lack of inhibition, which I think people pine away for. Especially when you get older of the time when you were like younger and hooking up and having fun and whatnot. Plus there's like a vitality to it. And then there's also this idea of like, oh, wow. Like, it shows that, like you were hiding so little. Like when you had on your bathing suit, like, wow, there's. It was millimeters away from showing people something that we don't allow.

[Ben]

Perhaps it was that. Yes, perhaps. Have you ever. Have you ever been to a nude beach?

[Josh]

I told you, I've been to a nude beach in Hawaii once, but I was wearing suit and I just. They were just like, you can look, just don't stare. And I was like, go.

[Ben]

I remember this story. Yeah, nude beaches are weird. That said, why are they weird? It should be normal to want to tan your entire body. Like, if I was a woman, I don't want like just my stomach to be tan, but my tits to be like ghostly white. I want everything tan. It should be totally normal.

[Josh]

Agreed, Agreed.

[Ben]

Saying that said, you, I don't think you want a burnt nipple. As a woman, you don't want a burnt nipple. So you'd have to really apply some really significant hundred proof sunscreen to your nipples.

[Josh]

Oh my God. Have you ever boogie boarded in a very salty sea? That's all you need. Oh my God, the chafing beyond.

[Ben]

Awful. Awful. Have you ever worn one of those pennies without anything under them when you're playing basketball and you have that rubbing against your nipple? Awful. Terrible, awful, awful.

[Josh]

I agree. I agree.

[Ben]

Have you ever taken dose for a week and your nipples were itchy?

[Josh]

Shout out. Dose.

[Ben]

Shout out.

[Olivia]

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[Josh]

Ctmobile.com should we get to a speak pipe?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

If you want to leave us a message, get some advice, go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity is key. Ask us questions for advice and nothing else. We don't want to hear it. This one's from I don't know.

[Unknown]

What the fuck is that?

[Ben]

Morons.

[Unknown]

This is kind of a serious topic so I'm going to get right into it. I have a friend, she seriously loves to drink and drive. That's her prerogative.

[Ben]

Whoa.

[Unknown]

She's hit things while driving. She does not remember getting home while driving. It's concerning. She also has an almost 3 year old child and sometimes this child is in the car with her when she has been drinking or is currently drinking while driving. Oh, and I work in a profession where I am a mandated reporter and I.

[Ben]

What does that mean?

[Unknown]

I struggle with it. And tattletail would love to not just report this person, but I would love to have a conversation. But as two dads, one potentially to be and one currently also a dad, please give me advice. Is it. Do I not say anything because I'm not a mom? Do I say something because it's required by my. I don't know what the fuck to do. Please help. Because I'm concerned for her child's safety and her own and others on the road. And I'm. I. Please help.

[Ben]

Wow. That's fucking crazy. Josh. I'll let you go first. With active children, tell us and then I'll go listen.

[Josh]

If you're with her at a night when she wants to drive drunk with or without a kid, you take her fucking keys and you throw them in the woods. Like you put yourself in between her and that vehicle. It doesn't matter. Call the police. Fuck her. Forget about it. It's crazy. It's so nuts. It's the worst thing one can do. You put your own life and your kid's life for sure in danger. But then you could put someone else's life in danger to throw her keys. Call the police. Don't be afraid.

[Ben]

Yeah, and sit her down. Like if this is an actual friend, sit her down and tell her that. Like you need an intervention. Just like an intervention with anything else. Like you need to say you're a mother and you're endangering your child. Like it's not. It's not cool at all. It's not cool whatsoever. There's nothing cool about this. You must stop immediately. Otherwise we can't be friends. Part of growing up. I don't know if we've spoken about this. Josh, it's okay to shed friends. It's okay to look at somebody and maybe you grew up and they never did and their choices no longer reflect the type of people that you want to associate yourself with. And I'm sorry, I personally, if I had a friend that enjoyed drunk driving with her three year old, I would. That would Reflect poorly on me. Like somebody would see her and say, oh, she's friends with Ben. What must Ben be doing? Your friends are a reflection of you and this person. This is not, this is not a good apple. This is no good. Try and reason with them. Try and have them change course. Otherwise don't be friends with them and call the cops or call that person's. I would assume there's. Maybe there's a father. I don't, I don't know what the deal is, but a grandparent call someone. No good. I don't like that story at all.

[Josh]

And by the way, drinking and driving, unacceptable. Drinking and eating, awesome. Just pitch to her. Be like sober up and then go through a drive through. Stuff your face while you drive. I love driving and eating.

[Ben]

It's interesting that you bring that up. I also love driving and eating, but sometimes I feel a little reckless. Like the other day I was fully driving with a cone. I got a vanilla cone. Like licking the cone, one hand driving the other eating the bottom, slurping it out, finishing it. Like there is an element. It's. I know it's not illegal, but there's an element because I love eating and driving, but there's an element of it's dangerous. Sometimes you have to be careful with what you're eating.

[Josh]

Totally agree. Could not agree more. Next one's from Anonymous.

[Unknown]

Hey Josh. Hey Ben. Baruch Hashem. I am not Jewish, but I have learned that phrase from listening to you guys.

[Ben]

Well done.

[Unknown]

I have a babysitter question for you dads. We had our first non family member watch our 11 month old son the other day for a few hours and I asked her what's her hourly rate. This 15 year old girl had the audacity to tell me $30 an hour, are you kidding me? What is the going rate these days for a babysitter?

[Ben]

Don't ask next time. I appreciate the hustle. I hate when people feel like that. Like you asked me what my rate was. I'm not going to tell you that my rate is $10 an hour. I'm going to tell you that it's 30. You're then going to tell me I'm only comfortable paying you 15 and we're going to settle on 20. So honestly, props to the 15 year old for highballing you first because you're going to low ball her after and if she goes in with her lowest, she's getting screwed. If you only wanted to pay her 15 bucks, you should have just said the job is $15 an hour. Take it or leave it, Josh.

[Josh]

I agree. 30 steep. We have a lovely person who comes and helps out with shy and then the baby for a couple hours a week and she gets paid almost 30. And that's because she's like a professional at it and in her 60s and like has decades of experience helping take care of children. So. Yeah, and she gets a nice bonus. We take care of her. Nice, nice. You're 15 so a dollar for every year. No, I'm kidding. But like 20 bucks.

[Ben]

20 bucks is a pizza. But I, but I appreciate her. Like if you ask somebody how much should I pay you? It's totally in her right to throw out a number. She'll definitely take 15 though. Go back to her and if not she's too entitled and too rich to be babysitting. Okay, Go find somebody cheaper. Also why do you need the 15 year old? Can you get somebody that's a little bit more experienced? I'm sorry, like go and find. I like what you said Josh. A nice six year old woman, a professional, very experienced. This is right. I don't want to play roulette with a 15 year old.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

Just saying.

[Josh]

I agree. The 15 year old, it's, it's, you know.

[Ben]

Yeah, you never know you got to.

[Josh]

Work for cheap babe. I did. I worked for Nickelodeon. Yeah, same next one from Anonymous.

[Unknown]

Hey good guys, quick question. What would you do if you had a friend that always wants to ask you questions about your life and always wants to know your business but when it comes to their life and their business they don't want to say anything to me? I feel like then you shouldn't ask me because this is not a one sided friendship, you know? Or am I crazy? Have you guys dealt with this and if so, how do you deal with this? It's like becoming new for her and I just don't know what to do because I feel like I'm sharing because we've been friends for 20 plus years but she doesn't share anything and I don't know what would you guys do?

[Ben]

This is a very unique problem. I've never heard of somebody that was upset that somebody wasn't sharing enough with or. Right. It doesn't seem backwards. She's upset that, she's upset that her friend won't share, will share too much with her, but not that she won't share enough with them. I'm confused by the whole thing.

[Josh]

I've had friends in this scenario who were very tight to the vest with anything personal going on in their life and Then they would ask me things which would require me to be slightly vulnerable and share with them, and it didn't feel like a two way street.

[Olivia]

Got it.

[Ben]

I understand. Okay, so that's what she's saying. I understand now. And that person is not your friend. This is no good. This person is gathering information on you. This person is trying to figure out everything, and then they're gonna write a scathing article and they're gonna tank you and they're gonna get you fired from your job, and they're gonna tell your friends and family all of your deep.

[Olivia]

Dark secrets while you're telling them nothing.

[Josh]

That's right. Maybe they work for the CIA. Maybe. Maybe they're counter Russian intelligence. You know what I mean?

[Ben]

I think so.

[Josh]

You're out there singing, singing all your sad thoughts, and they're like, tell me more. Interesting. Don't worry. Where I'm from, I'm. I told you, I'm from Scranton, Pennsylvania, born and raised.

[Olivia]

That's funny.

[Ben]

Oh, that's funny. Oh, my God. That's good.

[Josh]

You know, think about it. Your best friend is Russian intelligence.

[Ben]

Bravo. Bravo.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. Okay, last question from Hopeless Romantic.

[Unknown]

Hi, good guys. Thank you for the podcast. Thank you for how much you make me laugh. I love you. This question is obviously for Josh and Ben, but also Olivia, because I would love a girl's perspective. I'm 25 years old and I'm a virgin by choice. I'm not waiting till marriage, but I am waiting until I'm completely in love with somebody, because I only want to be intimate with one person that way my whole life. That's the goal, at least. And I've had a very hard time leading up to now with guys basically being okay waiting, and I'm totally fine with that. With them, I'm like, listen, I'm not going to think you're a bad guy. I'm not going to think you're a bad person. Like, be upfront with me. That's great. If you need to have sex to fall in love with me, then I don't think you were going to fall in love with me in the first place. So, like, that's fine. But it's so tough to date in this world when I'm not having sex until I'm in love. Because how can I tell someone on a first date, like, well, you need to make me fall in love with you first and not have them run the other direction. So I guess my first question is, how do I go about that in this day and age where like, sex on the first date is pretty normal, especially with my generation. And two, am I crazy to think that there's going to be a guy somewhere along the way that's, like, so down for me that he's like, I don't really care if I have sex with you in the first week, in the first month, even in the first year, or we wait till marriage, because I love who you are and I just want to be with you. Am I crazy? Should I get off of my fairytale pedestal? I would love to hear what you guys think.

[Ben]

Thank you. Olivia.

[Josh]

Yeah. Olivia, you want to go first?

[Ben]

Cool.

[Guest]

Yeah. So I actually. I hadn't met. I'm also 25. I hadn't met somebody who was.

[Josh]

I thought something else was coming after that. I was about to be like, whoa.

[Guest]

Whoa, no, no, no, no. But a good friend of mine out here, actually, she's been saving herself or, like, you know, waiting to have sex with somebody and until she's married. And I know for her, she went through, like, a big breakup a little while ago, and she was with this guy for, like, two or three years, and they never did anything, and they had a really good relationship and they thought it was endgame, but, like, ended up not, you know, being that way anyway. It's a tricky position to be in, but I think that there will be people, there will be somebody out there who can be in alignment with you. And I wanted to wait, too, until it was with somebody that I knew loved me, and I loved when I was younger. It just happened for me at an earlier age than it happened has happened for you. But I think just, like, keep holding on. Stay true to, like, what you believe. Don't do something that you'll regret, you know? But, yeah, like, just good luck. I know it's hard out there, but there's somebody out there for you for sure.

[Ben]

I agree. I think you hold out. I think that if. If it's what you want, you're going to. Somebody's going to meet you at that. But I also wouldn't go, like, looking for a guy at a bar. Like, you should. You should be hunting for your specific person. I don't know what your religion is, but, like, maybe at church, like, maybe you should, like, look for somebody who comes from a family that, like. Like, if you're going and you're, like, dating a bunch of hunters or football players, obviously they're going to sleep with you immediately. You know what I mean? Like, I would make sure that you're looking in the right places. I didn't mean to throw hunters under the bus. Maybe there are some that are waiting for. Waiting for marriage to have sex. Yeah. I just think you'll find the right person, but you also need to be looking in the right places.

[Josh]

Yeah, I think. I totally agree. I think you're probably. As you start getting into your late 20s, if you still haven't been with someone and you want that from the. The person you're with, I think it will probably. The religious route is sort of inevitable because that just seems to be like someone who would share that ideal. But you guys tell me if I'm crazy. I'm. I kind of think, like, if you don't want to do that, I totally respect it. But if there are other things you do want to do with someone who you are interested in and it's moving towards that direction of becoming more serious and falling in love, like, I would say, make that other stuff super fun, you know?

[Ben]

Of course. Yes, totally. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You mean like the. You mean like the other stuff? Yeah.

[Josh]

You know what I'm talking about. Right between where the shortstop stands.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

You know what I mean? From heavy rubbing to.

[Ben]

No, I do. Yeah.

[Josh]

And by the way. And by the way, once you started hooking up with a partner for that long, you start wishing you started doing the other stuff. Stuff more. You're like, you know, I could. Whatever happened to a hand job, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. Foreplay is it.

[Josh]

Dude. Foreplay is it, isn't it?

[Ben]

It's.

[Josh]

It's.

[Ben]

It. Sure. Play is it. Otherwise, why don't. Why do we watch an entire movie? Why not just skip to the final scene?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

You know, there's no buildup. Why don't you just watch the last six minutes of the Knicks game? You don't even need quarters one through three, you loser. No, you need foreplay plays in the name.

[Josh]

It's not for work.

[Ben]

No, it's for play, you know? Yeah, I know.

[Josh]

That's a Chris Rock bit. It's like, why having a girlfriend is better than having a wife because friends in the title.

[Ben]

That's good. It's good.

[Josh]

Should we get to our. What do you nuts?

[Ben]

We should Josh our.

[Josh]

What do you know? Moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Everything sticking in your crawl. Ben, what do you got?

[Ben]

You ever have this experience, Josh? You go maybe to a department store, okay. You buy a lot of things, you take them home, they just don't fit right. Or maybe you went to a store, you bought something expensive. You take it home and you changed your mind. You go back in the next day fully expecting a refund. This was a big purchase. And they look at you and they say, store credit only. What are you, nuts? I just gave you my money yesterday. Okay? This. What. What kind of shakedown is this? I'm giving you back the goods. They're in perfect condition. The idea of a store credit only. I'm sorry, it's tacky. It's terrible. And I'm out on it completely if it's food. What are you, nuts? Of course you don't. Don't even give a refund. But if this is like an item, a tangible item that you can resell again, locking me into spending money at your store is a terrible experience. What are you, nuts?

[Josh]

I love that. I totally agree. Get out of here. Cash back only. My Woody Nuts moment is phrases like, the silence was deafening.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Josh]

It's deep how you can be so shallow. Just say you're super shallow.

[Ben]

Yeah, they were okay.

[Josh]

They were very quiet. I just. I. I don't. What are you nuts? Can we just say it straight?

[Ben]

It's not what. Stop speaking in poem. We don't need.

[Josh]

This was deafening. Don't use opposites to describe what.

[Ben]

That's why we have opposites. We don't need it. I totally agree. Completely. Nuts. And, Josh, you know what else is nuts?

[Josh]

What?

[Ben]

Not giving us five stars on this episode, folks. That would be nuts. What are you, nuts?

[Josh]

Listen to us.

[Ben]

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[Guest]

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[Josh]

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