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Ben
Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the good guys. A mother's dream premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a good guys. And if you don't give us five stars. What are you nuts?
Josh Peck
What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.
Ben
They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys. You're engaged to the wonderful Tia. Congratulations.
Jimmy
Thank you.
Ben
Yes.
Josh Peck
Congrats.
Ben
Ben and I are two married saps with beautiful kids. We love being married. Could you enjoy a couple's night out with this game you refer to like.
Jimmy
Oh, yeah.
Ben
You turn off for that. You could, yeah.
Jimmy
Well, it depends the day today. Hell no. I'm in Beast. I didn't even. I went to bed for, like, an hour last night. I'm in Beast games mode for at least the next, like, week and then. But yeah, if it's, like, scheduled. Yeah. If it's something. Actually, I don't even know. Like, I'm pretty much booked every hour of every day this year.
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
But maybe.
Josh Peck
What do you take? Like, you said that you don't. Like. Like, how do you keep your brain.
Jimmy
I'm just tired of all the time.
Ben
You do caffeine pills, right?
Jimmy
Yeah, I'll occasionally take caffeine pills because, like, I think energy drinks just taste like battery acid. So I just like to pop the caffeine and get it done. But those I try to use sparingly because I. Because then I'm gonna get addicted. And it's like. Like right now, this morning, I took one because I didn't sleep last night, but if I had slept, I wouldn't take one.
Ben
This guy, moderation.
Jimmy
I mean, it's just part of it, because the beauty. The thing is, though, like, if you're tired, it. This doesn't apply in every industry, but in our social media, you know, if you're trying to be the biggest creator possible, you got to put out a lot of content because, you know, you got to be in front of people and you just. You know, at the end of the day, like, the fact that I am tired means I'm doing something that other people wouldn't do because they would definitely just go to sleep. Why would you. And that, like, that being able to work even though you are tired, even though you don't want to, is the competitive advantage in our field. Right. And engineering, it's not. Right. And Warren Buffett, what he does. Oh, he shouldn't work when he's tired. Warren Buffett just needs to make two theoretical, correct investments a year. If he, like, if he was like, hey, I'm going to put $30 billion in this company, and then at 2x, he could make that one decision. And if he was correct, you know, he's good. Right. But that's a completely different field than what we do where, you know, if I'm not filming, we're not putting out content, you know, and people are consuming so many hours of YouTube every day, so many hours of short form, like reels, tik tok and stuff like that. And like, if you're just not producing, you're just. You just don't exist, you know?
Ben
But I don't mean for the Jewish father and me to come out, but you talked about how you were filming in South Africa, and then I think you just got the flu or got good and sick and you're in a hospital there for three days.
Jimmy
Yep.
Ben
Like, what does that look like? Or do you alert the team of, like, guys, I can't go on, or do they go, jimmy, we're taking you?
Jimmy
Well, I. So we were in a lion cage. In a cage surrounded by lions. And we were going to spend like a week there. But, yeah, I got tonsillitis and I was feeling horrible, and I was just laying on the ground sleeping and, like, waking up every hour to push ants off me. But then I, like, I couldn't really speak and they shined a light and my tonsils were, like, white. And then that's when they, like, took me to the hospital. Yeah.
Ben
And you had your tonsils removed?
Jimmy
No, they just gave me a bunch of medicine.
Ben
Wow.
Jimmy
I'm not. No, I'm not removing my tonsils in Africa. That's not an Africa operation. Come on. No, that's not.
Ben
The Cedar Sinai in Zimbabwe. It's fabulous.
Jimmy
Yeah, that's a. That's a coming back to the States type operation.
Josh Peck
Yeah, you can't do that. I make fun of my friend who got caps or veneers in Costa Rica. Like, that's even a stretch.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
Having your tonsils removed in Africa. It was. You made the right move.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And then for those three days, are you like, I just have to focus on getting better. Are you taking calls from bed?
Jimmy
I think in those three days in particular. So that was when I first met my fiance and I was actually.
Ben
How did you guys meet, may I ask?
Jimmy
So when we were. So we were going to Antarctica to film a video. So you fly to South Africa, you wait, you board a Special plane that can land on ice in Antarctica. When we land in South Africa, we got a call that this is when Covid was a thing. We got a call that every one of the people in Antarctica got Covid. So someone got Covid, landed in Antarctica, gave them all Covid. So they're like, yeah, you gotta wait, you know, two weeks. So. And then they have to pass a negative COVID test. So I'm just kind of like in South Africa and it takes forever to get there. And we're like, well, maybe we'll be able to squeeze in. And so we're just chilling in South Africa. So I do my thing, I just naturally start working. But Logan, Paul was coming with us to Antarctica for the video. And Logan is, you know, I don't.
Ben
Think it's a gregarious one.
Jimmy
Yeah, I don't think this is back when he was, you know, single, obviously. And yeah, so he, he's just every hour just trying to drag me out. Let's go do things. Let's go do things. I'm like, do what? Like, I'm just going to. I got videos to work on. Like, go have fun. And then after a while of just like, you know, berating me to like, go hang out with them, I was like, you know what, Whatever. I'll give this whole, like, having fun thing a try. Like, let's go out. And then we, we. We went to a club, which I hate clubs. I hate them with the passion. I mean, it is. It's bad. Especially, I mean, I don't know, you guys probably. I just like. Because everyone knows who I am, so it just turns into like an entire photo shoot. Me.
Josh Peck
And. And you don't drink and you don't.
Jimmy
Exactly. And I don't drink and I don't do drugs. So I'm sober. And it's literally.
Ben
There's no wi fi and there's just.
Jimmy
Well, and there's just that crazy line. I haven't been in years. But back the few times that you go. I mean, it just literally like a line will form like out the door of the club. Not to get into club, but just to take a photo with me. And I'm like, this is like, this is really weird, but. But so I was like, I'll go. If you just find one that has like a, A room off to the side so I don't have to like, talked to 10 quintillion people. And. And then.
Ben
Yeah, private room.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And then we don't mess around.
Jimmy
We went and. Yeah. And then I Met someone, and then she ended up having a friend who was named Tia. And then when I was at dinner, she invited Tia, and then I met Tia there, and I was like, oh, this person's very smart. And then we started talking, and here we are. Wow.
Ben
Congratulations.
Jimmy
Thank you. Yeah. So beautiful. Weirdly enough, if Logan Paul tries to drag you to a club, maybe do it. Just go. You might be your fiance.
Ben
So now that you have, like, the one thing that I heard you asked some podcasts, and I kind of, like, wanted to speak up for you.
Jimmy
Oh, God.
Ben
Was like. Because people are always like, well, you know, your lifestyle have to change when you have kids, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like. And I wanted to say, and I have three kids of my own. I wanted to be like, jimmy's got bigger things to worry about. Like, I kind of wanted to be like, stop trying to throw normal on Jimmy.
Jimmy
Like, you don't think I should have kids?
Ben
I think you should do absolutely if you want it and when you want to. But what you are doing is so singular, and as you say, only you could do it. And you are impacting the world in such a wonderful way. I'm like, it's okay if Jimmy's not at Little League right now. Like, let him live. Let him do this gigantic thing that only he can do.
Jimmy
Well, all right, you guys are two case studies, right? You're successful men that had kids. How much did it. You know, obviously, kids are a huge net positive, and I know your lives are for the better, and I'm not saying this in a way of, like, describe how they ruined your life, but I'm just from an objective standpoint, how much did it affect your ability to work, having kids?
Josh Peck
Look, it's.
Jimmy
It's.
Josh Peck
There is no way that you can possibly dedicate the time that you are dedicating to what you do at the level that you do it while also having a child that you actually love and care for and want to know. It's impossible. Like, my day is now spent. My brain, A part of my brain is occupied even when I'm not with him, just thinking about him. What is he doing? Is he happy? How is he doing? When am I going to see him again? And my son's only seven months old. Josh has three kids, I'm sure. I mean, he's turned down. He's turned down job opportunities. He's turned out. And that's. And that's great. Like, I think Josh and I are similar in this. Like, it is so important to me. And to us, to have a family and to have kids like that, that is more important to me than making double the money or triple the money. I don't think about it like, I think that I can't buy that and I want that. So if I have to give something up to get that in the interim, I will. But I. Does that make sense?
Jimmy
Yeah, of course. No. And I. Very few people do that I meet that are successful, have kids, end up regretting it. They're almost always like, yeah, I'm, I'm less successful, but I don't care because having kids, dope and it's. Yeah, exactly. So that's why I don't ask it from that standpoint. But I. So, but to quantify. What percentage though, of, of your work time do you think you lost? Not lost, but you're now investing in your child as opposed to your, your career?
Josh Peck
I think, I think I probably lose three hours a day.
Jimmy
Okay.
Josh Peck
I lose after 5 o'. Clock. Like that is Ruby bath, bottle bed. And that used to be working. I would work basically 8 to 8, like in some form. Yeah, that was my day. And I'm now very, I'm done at five. Absolutely done. Yeah. So at least three hours a day. So over the course of a week. It's a lot.
Jimmy
Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're working 12 hours, you know, going from 12 down to nine, so you're essentially saying like roughly a quarter, but a quarter.
Ben
I know people who have kids and don't let it affect their life, but.
Jimmy
Are they phenomenal fathers?
Ben
No, not at all. Like, that's what I'm saying.
Jimmy
Like, I don't want to have a kid unless I'm a phenomenal father. So that's, yeah, that's where the database is more relevant.
Josh Peck
Then you're, then you're going to need to really, you're going to need to see them. Like, that's what it is. You have to be there and hold them. And by the way, you're going fucking addicted. You're going to want to wake him or her up in the morning because they're going to smile at you. And all of a sudden every worry in your brain is gone. Like it's, it's, it's a dopamine hit unlike anything I've ever experienced.
Ben
But also with how much you love to mentor people. Like, this is like the greatest project you've ever had. Like, this is the most, most worthwhile mentorship of your life.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And so I think also too, it's. I, you Know, Ben and I uniquely, people always say to me, like, I love kid shit. Like, it's. It's not. I notice it with friends where I'm like, their kids inhibited their ability to have brunch whenever. And it's a sticking point for them. Like, they love their kids, but, boy, do they love brunch.
Jimmy
Okay.
Ben
I could do without brunch. Like, you know, like, I can enjoy a Sky Zone, you know, trampoline park.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And I don't feel like I'm missing out.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And I think that is helpful when having kids. Like, Seinfeld has a great quote where he goes, you know, they always talk about quality time. He goes, junk time's good, too. Like, me and my son sitting in front of the tv and maybe I'm checking my phone a little, maybe he's watching something, but, like, I'm here. He's like, he knows Dad's here for whatever he needs. It's kind of great.
Jimmy
Interesting. And I. I appreciate you guys not BSing it and be like, no, kids make you more successful, but I hate when people say that kind of stuff because. Agreed, it's a sacrifice if you're actually a good father. But it's. Yeah. I mean, what you guys are quantifying is it's a sacrifice, but it's worth it.
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
Maybe in the. Maybe in the long run, it's a wash. I don't know.
Jimmy
Maybe it's a wash. I mean, I think best case scenario, you return back to your baseline when. Whenever they start going to school or whatever. But, I mean, there's no way you're going to recoup the 21 hours a day.
Josh Peck
You'll never recoup the time.
Jimmy
Yeah, exactly.
Josh Peck
You'll never recoup the time. No.
Ben
I met your mom last night, who's so lovely, and because Ben and I were listening to your pod on Diary of a CEO and hearing your origins and just, you know, what a close relationship you guys have. And my mom and I, you know, I had a single mom and we're very close, so I identified and I couldn't help myself. I just looked at her and I said, you should be so proud.
Jimmy
She loves hearing that.
Ben
Oh, I was like, you should be so proud, ma'.
Jimmy
Am.
Ben
And she was like, do I know you? And I was like, you don't.
Josh Peck
Oh, no, mom, it's Josh P. It's okay, Mom.
Ben
It's okay.
Jimmy
This is even funnier story. Do you remember me? Oh, this is such a full circle. Megan, you know how she used to say boobs.
Ben
Sure.
Jimmy
Yeah. I. Bro. I was really young when I was watching Drake and Josh, and so she would say that. And I just said that one time, just when I was real. I don't remember the age. I just remember being really young and being in the kitchen. My mom said something and I just said boobs. And she's like, why the. Why did you just say that?
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
And I was just like, well, that's. I don't know, like, it's like just Drake and Josh. And she got like, really, really uncomfortable and weirded out about. I don't know if she thought, like, maybe it was like porn or something I was watching or I was going.
Ben
The show was subtly unacceptable.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
Jimmy
And so she is like, no, don't watch that, Josh.
Josh Peck
The show is amazing.
Ben
Yeah, the show is great.
Jimmy
But my point is, it's funny because she low key. All right, ban it. But she's like, don't watch that show. I don't want you watching that. If they're using rhetoric, like, I agree with that. But then now here we are, 14, 13, whatever, years later, and then she's like, to the person that she banned in the household. Do I know you? It's so funny. That's amazing. It would be so funny if he was like, boobs. She would instantly be like, oh, I know, you're the one who poisoned my son.
Ben
Yeah, happy to help.
Jimmy
I.
Ben
Well, it's interesting too, right? Because I remember, I think we first chatted over Covid, like in 2020, and you said something that always stayed with me because I thought it was very smart and prescient, but went against sort of. I'm of that generation where classical, you know, tv, theatrical, sort of like the old guard was still a thing.
Josh Peck
Right.
Ben
And it was still like super legitimate. And I remember I'd been doing YouTube and social media. You were like, can we chat? And we talked for like 20 minutes. It was a great chat. You're like, what are you up to? And I said, oh, I'm shooting the show Turner and Hooch and in Vancouver, Canada, for the next nine months doing this TV show.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
And you nicely were kind of.
Jimmy
Let me guess. I was like, what a waste of time.
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
Yeah, that sounds like what I'd say. Did I say just do YouTube?
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Five years ago.
Ben
But what if it had been. Obviously it's not, but like, what if it had been something that did better? Right?
Jimmy
I mean, yeah, but Turner and Hoots is not a stranger thing. I mean, you can just tell by the name. That's not.
Ben
It was a pretty successful movie in the 80s with Tom Hanks.
Jimmy
That's not. No Stranger Things, but yeah, I mean, obviously. Yeah, if you're one of the. I think it's a very exponential thing. Like, if you're one of the top shows, of course, it's definitely worth your time. You, like, look at Millie, Bobby Brown and all, you know, the Stranger Things cast. I mean, those are some of the biggest celebrities.
Josh Peck
Oppenheimer.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
Oh, yeah.
Jimmy
So, like, if you're in like the, you know, the theoretical One of the 10 shows that are relevant each year or one of the five movies, of course. But the further down the chain you go, though, like, it's just not worth the time, you know, in my opinion.
Ben
And how do. Yeah.
Jimmy
For someone in your case, right. Where you could be making social media content, you could be getting infinitely more eyeballs and actually building a brand as opposed to, you know, and being in front of people.
Ben
Right. If it's not the only thing you do. You're saying, like, there's, you know, you have these avenues. It makes sense.
Jimmy
Yeah. In your case. But yeah, for someone who wants to be an actor, of course, I mean, doing that owes to nothing. Like, obviously better than nothing.
Ben
I remember episode six of Turner and Hooch. I really hit my peak as an actor. No, I'm getting.
Jimmy
No, you do. I. Because I started to have to do not have to. But I do some more scripted stuff here and there when I pop in on shows. Do you enjoy acting?
Ben
It's a great question.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
This will sound corny. I do. When it's great. I do. When it's Christopher Nolan directing you, you know, it can be.
Jimmy
Oh, yeah. That's why you made the Oppenheimer reference.
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jimmy
I don't like it at all. It's like having to remember lines, even if it's like loose lines and like having to like stand there and play someone you're not. It's like, it's like so not fun whatsoever to me. Compared to, like shooting normal, unscripted stuff like our YouTube videos and things like that. It's like acting is brutal, man. Like, because you're. You're sitting in like a make believe set in a make believe scenario, you know, doing a make believe thing, you know, and reading lines and then having to do it again and again and again, you know.
Ben
Do you hate the repetition?
Jimmy
Yeah. Well. And then. Now they got to move the camera. Now do it again. Now we got to move the camera. Now we get the frontal One and do it again. And then. Oh, let's get a second take. Let's get a safety take. I. Bro, it's. It's. I hate it. I. I don't like it at all. Compared to. I would probably like it a lot more if I didn't do so much unscripted and know the joy of that where it's like in YouTube, I just, I am me. I just do me. Right? Whereas in acting you're not, you know, and so I don't know, it just feels like you're just a puppet that just, just is right. I don't know, you're just going to the motion.
Ben
Someone else is thing. It's someone else's like vision.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
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Jimmy
I already saw it. It was good.
Ben
Okay.
Jimmy
Yeah, I went to the premiere. I went to the premiere.
Josh Peck
Wow.
Ben
My man is up on things.
Jimmy
Yeah, I got a photo.
Josh Peck
I'll never see it or I'll see it in 20 years. I'm 20 years behind on.
Jimmy
Have you seen Marty Supreme?
Josh Peck
I haven't yet.
Ben
I just watched one battle after another which was sick.
Jimmy
Oh, I want to see that one.
Ben
Unreal.
Jimmy
I need that. Hopefully whatever airline I'm on has it. It's on Max, it's good then. It might be on my airline. I watch it. But Marty supreme is. I'm curious. What do you guys think Marty supreme is? Tell me. Based on what? You know, like, with the trailers and the hype you've seen.
Ben
It's about a Jewish pingpong player in the 40s or 50s. It's a sports movie.
Jimmy
Yeah, it's a sports movie.
Ben
Yeah.
Jimmy
Yeah. It's the vibe you get. It's about ping pong.
Josh Peck
I. I just have seen Timothy Shal.
Jimmy
Over here. This why we didn't invite you. Don't worry.
Josh Peck
Yeah, you're good. So you talk Marty Sabre.
Jimmy
Yeah. To the people watching this. They'll know what I'm getting at. It's. It's a good movie. So I'm not saying this in a negative way. There's a lot less ping pong than I thought there would be. Fair enough. There's a lot less ping pong.
Josh Peck
You know what that sounds like? Did you ever see Air, the. The Michael Jordan movie with Ben Affleck?
Jimmy
No.
Josh Peck
It was all about Michael Jordan and there was no basketball.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
Michael Jordan was not in that movie.
Jimmy
But there. Yeah, it was. There's a lot more sex than I thought. Atmyra supreme. And a lot less ping pong than I thought. And I was.
Josh Peck
Is.
Jimmy
It was. But it works. And it was. It was a lot more chaotic, a lot more hectic. It's. It's a movie. Embrace yourself. It's a. It's a movie.
Ben
You can't describe things by calling it what they are. It's a. That was a movie.
Jimmy
It was. It was.
Ben
And this is a podcast.
Jimmy
It was. No, this. This is a podcast.
Ben
Yes.
Jimmy
That was a movie. That was. That was something. It was. It was something.
Josh Peck
You had me at sex scenes. I'll go see. She's having sex.
Jimmy
Don't worry.
Josh Peck
You.
Jimmy
You get a sex scene, like, right away. Like it. Intros with the sexy.
Ben
Did Gwyneth Paltrow take her kid to see it? I think so. That was. She was on. She was on a talk show and she said, I brought my kid to see it. But I do have this love scene with Timothy Chalamet.
Jimmy
Oh, my.
Josh Peck
Wow. That is. That's a choice.
Jimmy
Yeah, I. Anyway, that's something. But that's a lot. Yeah, that's.
Ben
Well, shout out Josh Safdie.
Jimmy
Yeah, it was. Again, it works. And it sets the tone for how chaotic and weird and different it is. But I was like, holy shit. That's. That's an intro.
Ben
Oh, it's gonna Win an Oscar.
Jimmy
I, I think he should. Timothy definitely should. He's phenomenal.
Ben
Wow, Chalamet, he does it for you.
Jimmy
I love Dune. I love, like, the movies he's in. He just crushes to a crazy degree. I think Dune 1 and 2, the soundtrack and I mean, obviously his performance, just everything about it. It's one of my favorite movies of recent memory.
Ben
I like seeing you passionate about. I like seeing things that make you happy.
Jimmy
Thank you.
Ben
I think you, you deserve it. You need.
Jimmy
I'm a simple man, doomed and winning Dune.
Ben
Winning. Hibachi, chicken, White sauce.
Jimmy
Well, anything that has a lot of calories. Let's just be clear.
Ben
A lot of calories.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
White sauce. It's all in the sauce.
Jimmy
Exactly, bro. Sauce is go. Sauce is it Exactly.
Josh Peck
Sauce is king.
Ben
Do you, you have this incredible premiere last night. Do you go like, on the drive back, like, I need Jimmy deserves a treat. Do you go, I'm getting in and out. I'm getting a king cone from 7.
Jimmy
I, I didn't leave until like 3am so everything was closed by the time I left. Security was like, we're going to start charging you like $20,000 an hour if you don't leave. And I was like, really? Yeah, because I grabbed all the like, data people that were there and we were like in a room and we were all sharing analytics and we were just going over like, the videos and blah, blah, blah. And so we were like, hiding out in this, like, closet where we put like a TV and we like, connected a laptop and we were just in there for like three or four hours, just roasting each other's content. Toast. Security was like, get the fuck out of the building.
Ben
Great.
Jimmy
Yeah. I was like, hoping they wouldn't notice we were in there and just like, lock the place so we could just keep going. But no, by that time everything was closed, so. Except for we uber eat some chicken wings. Yeah, so we got some chicken wings.
Ben
What? The guy stays regular.
Josh Peck
What kind of sauce? We're ordering wings. What sauce?
Jimmy
I'll be honest. My fiance ordered it. I'm not trying to throw under the bus, but she just got barbecue. It was very, you know, stereotypical. Not the best wings.
Ben
Now the buffalo.
Jimmy
Yeah. No honey mustard. No, I'm a kind of mustard. Yeah, exactly. So good. I, I, I, I ask like, I'll order 20 wings and I'll call him and be like, yo, can you make every three wings different? Like, I like different flavors. And I'd be like, just, you know, put honey mustard, barbecue, whatever, Buffalo and Then just surprise me. Just throw random on them. The other three, we.
Josh Peck
We need to eat together. This is. We need a meal.
Ben
A big beautiful with you guys and just black out.
Jimmy
Let's have him relapse. No, just drink the song title.
Ben
Josh relapses with Mr.
Jimmy
Beast.
Ben
The ultimate video.
Jimmy
I don't want. And then.
Ben
And then you lock me away for like a year and you go, like.
Jimmy
Go relapse with David do.
Ben
Yeah, listen, that double title, that'd be.
Jimmy
A way to bring back the belog. Oh, man.
Ben
Wait, are you friendly with David?
Josh Peck
Right?
Jimmy
Yeah, we. We've talked quite a. I mean, we don't talk too much, but we've met a few times and he's been nice. And last time I saw him was after he did his transformation. Yeah, very impressive.
Ben
Yeah, very impressive.
Josh Peck
What?
Ben
I mean, I was like, he's a woman.
Josh Peck
I didn't.
Jimmy
Yeah, not transition. Transformation.
Josh Peck
It didn't block for me.
Jimmy
I was like, what?
Josh Peck
I missed a chapter?
Ben
All right, last question before our final segment, which. Which will be quick.
Jimmy
But yeah, no worries.
Ben
What. What is there, like when you see someone on the come up in social media, on YouTube, whatever.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
What is something. When they do they've made a decision where the alarm bells go off in your head and you go, oh, you're doomed. And not saying yes to Turner and Hooch. Pick something else. Don't get it.
Jimmy
Yeah, well, there's nothing where I'm ever like, they're doomed because everything's always fixable and you can always change. But definitely, if they start buying, like, really nice things, then I'm like, you're. You're kind of motivated by the wrong things. Like, if you're motivated for material things, like, if your motivation for grinding and uploading, working really hard is so you can buy a nice car and maybe buy a nice house, like, you're not going to be one of the greats because eventually you'll have those things. And then like, the. Which is where you see, like around a theoretical inflection point, a lot of people do start to level off because it's like, you'll notice after they get a nice house, a nice car, and maybe buy some jewelry and get a little bit of money, all of a sudden they start uploading way less. They start trying way less. The quality goes down. And all of a sudden they magically are less passionate. I'm no longer as passionate about what I'm doing. And the truth is, they were never really passionate about what they're doing. They just were liked, you Know, making money so they could buy these things. The second they started getting those things and they weren't chasing the dollar, the dollar isn't as important now. They're like, oh, I can't be bothered anymore. And, yeah, I see that in a lot of people. And it's kind of funny, and it's not always as obvious to make out, but I. I would say at least a solid dozen times I've noticed that. And, like, I. I can. Like, in my head, I'll be like, yeah, I feel like once they get these things, they'll probably, like, stop trying. And then they get those things, the videos go downhill. And I'm like, yeah, that wasn't surprising, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Ben
It's interesting because I feel like there have been so many people in that position where you're right. Like, they hit this inflection point, and you wonder the one thing that I'm always proud of, right. It's like, the only thing that I really have in my favor is I go, well, I've been around for almost 30 years, right? So I've seen a lot of people crest and, like, get very impressed with themselves and have this huge moment. I go, we'll see. Maybe. But, like, somehow I've been able to hold on to relevancy for this long. So I go, like, okay, maybe things will work out. I don't know.
Josh Peck
Where do you see on your motivations, though, Like, Jimmy, you are uniquely motivated by the game. Exactly.
Jimmy
You got to be motivated by winning.
Josh Peck
But many people are motivated by having financial security. And once they've had it, you see it as though they've gone downhill. They probably see it as. Or at least they think this. Like, I'm good.
Jimmy
Yeah. They seem like they already won. Exactly.
Josh Peck
They won. That's it. Like your. Your game never ends.
Jimmy
Yeah. Now, on the. The longevity and stuff, where do you think Timothee Chalamet will be in 10 years?
Ben
Timothee Chalamet? Yeah, he's the one.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
I was hoping you were going to say me, and then I was going to go, what do you think I should do?
Jimmy
No, he seems like the only real big movie star there is right now.
Ben
He's super talented.
Jimmy
Like. Yeah, he's kind of the dude like the one between Willy Wonka, Dune, I mean, now Marty supreme being a 24 most successful movie. All right. I think that is that one do. Well, I didn't see it.
Josh Peck
I don't know. I saw it.
Jimmy
I liked it.
Ben
But he was fine.
Josh Peck
He was great, but he's just like.
Jimmy
I think he's the only one that's like, really able to just get people in seats consistently. And movies like, which to me would be the definition of a movie star. Like, you know, so.
Josh Peck
And, and he's dating Kylie Jenner and the King of New York sitting courtside at Nick Games. He just like, it's the full package.
Jimmy
It's the stereotypical. Like, if you were to like blindfold someone and be like, all right, just write what is a movie star? They'd essentially like, draw his life.
Josh Peck
Yes.
Jimmy
Kardashian. That you're probably going to marry. Yeah. All these things.
Josh Peck
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Ben
I heard someone say I thought Timmy was the next DiCaprio, but he's the next Meryl Streep. Like in the sense of that he just is so good. Like in the way that Meryl is like one of one. And obviously DiCaprio too is because like I think what's cool about him is that he's, he doesn't feel as quote unquote movie star like he feels a little more approachable. Like, like he could not a little more.
Jimmy
He feels way more approachable. Infinitely more. I don't, I don't buy into this whole narrative that I I hear which is funny because I'm not in from your guys industry. I'm. I'm over here in unscripted land. I do nothing scripted. I don't do movies or any of this stuff. But so I do hear a lot of very Successful, you know, actors say like, you know, why would people go to the screens if they can get you on their screen at home? And so that's why they don't do social media. And I know that's a thought process a lot of people use. Whereas Timothy Chavez is the complete opposite. Like he is, you know, leaning into Instagram, he leans into TikTok and he's very much a part of, of our, our being social media, my world and that kind of stuff. And it's like, I think, like, I think that's partially why he is just so relevant and Amongst especially like 20 year old people and people in their 30s. Yeah, I think he's just like kind of rewriting the script. Whereas I feel like a lot of these bigger movie stars, they just don't lean into our side of the world. And I think that's what's going to allow him to go further beyond where any of these people ever could dream. That's my.
Josh Peck
The biggest movie stars like probably have somebody managing their social media. Just like posting press ads when you.
Ben
Have someone take it over.
Jimmy
Yeah, of course that's because people aren't following you on Instagram to see what your press person says. They're falling for you. Which is again, Timothy feels very authentic and real and that's why it like people gravitate towards him and like. Yeah, because it also helps that he is younger and he grew up using social media and he grew up making videos. He grew up with all these things. So he doesn't need a social media manager. I'm sure he has one, but he's definitely very involved and it comes across.
Ben
Do you see every piece of content that goes up on any of your socials?
Jimmy
Of course.
Ben
And approve. Approve it the whole.
Jimmy
Yeah, of course.
Josh Peck
Wow.
Ben
But it's a lot.
Jimmy
Yeah. But I mean I'm not going to just let people sling stuff out to 450 million people and I'll be watching it. Fair enough. A 10% of the world's population. Oh, sorry. I couldn't give a damn to watch it before.
Ben
Do you ever check your DMs?
Jimmy
Oh yeah, a lot of times. Although Instagram used to let you filter by like most followed but it's been broken and it hasn't let me filtered. So it's been like brutal because yeah, like I have no. Like if I didn't follow you and you messaged me, I'd have no way of seeing it.
Ben
Really.
Jimmy
Yeah, because you can't sort it by most followed anymore.
Ben
Are most messages from normal People asking you for money.
Jimmy
Well, so you can kind of preview the messages before you open them. So I kind of just swipe and look for like, you can kind of just tell by the profile picture. Is it like a real person? Is it like. So I'll just scroll and I'll be like, oh, that looks like a real human tap. See what they have to say.
Ben
What's the coolest DM you've ever gotten, Jimmy? It's Donald.
Jimmy
No.
Ben
Loved episode two. So good.
Jimmy
I think maybe the. I mean, I still can't believe we did it. We got the pyramids of Egypt for 100 hours and like, when we were reach, you know, messaging like some higher up people, like, and they were like, we're not opposed to it. I was like, oh, I was expecting you to tell me. Just buzz off. Like, okay. Yeah. And then like when we started talking to him, like, that was like, crazy. Like, the fact that the three pyramids of Egypt, I gotta camp there, spend 100 hours there, explore the pyramids unrestricted, go wherever the heck I wanted in the pyramids was insane. Wow. Yeah. That was. That was one of the most fun things I've ever done. Pretty good. And that's what I'm saying. It's like you go from that. Not to harp on the thing I was saying before, but you go from exploring the pyramids, camping by the pyramids, to like, go stand in this plywood set. Here's a script. Regurgitate these lines 10 times while staring at a camera. You know what I mean? It's like. That's what I'm saying. Like, pyramids fun, Regurgitating things.
Ben
Sound stage in Burbank fun.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Josh Peck
You know what I mean?
Jimmy
It's just I want to. I want to bring some actors over to the other side, help them see, like, this is what you could be doing. Unscripted is fun too.
Ben
I listen.
Jimmy
Unscripted just doesn't pay as well as scripted.
Ben
Depends. Okay, should we get to. What? Are you nuts?
Jimmy
Ben?
Josh Peck
Yes, Jimmy, Woody and nuts is our gripes with people, places and things. You probably experience it all the time. You're looking around, you're like, lady, what are you nuts? What are you doing? I'll start. You probably have one. I was just. Recently I did an in and out to Seattle. I'm Hearing through my AirPods, I'm hearing a movie. I'm like, how is it possible? I Noise canceling headphones. The woman next to me is on full volume, full volume. Watching a movie, full volume. I look down, Jimmy, bare feet. Strike two. That's it. Full, full volume movie. Bare feet complete. What are you nuts? Couldn't stand it.
Jimmy
Despicable.
Ben
Unacceptable. My. My Woody nuts is. You know, I have three kids. I am doing a lot of laundering, a lot of fluffing, a lot of folding.
Jimmy
You know, I would just pay someone.
Ben
That's smart. I can't. I'm working on it.
Josh Peck
I'm like laundering a lot of money. I just didn't like.
Jimmy
Well, we. We built our. In our house. We built it where the laundry room. We put it on the side of the house so it has a door to the outside so they can just come in, do the laundry. And then there's like a little slidy thing that goes right into where our drawers are so people can do it without ever having to enter our house.
Josh Peck
That is sick.
Jimmy
The dog. Because my. My fiance does. I don't care. I used to have before I met her people in my house all the time. I don't care. But she hates having people in the house. She really wants privacy. So I basically like same with our fridge. It's a two sided fridge that goes to the outside house. So people can open the fridge from the outside, slide food in, they can slide the laundry in. So no one ever has to enter our house, but we can still have everything on autopilot.
Ben
Whoa.
Josh Peck
That's the coolest fucking thing I've ever heard. Was that custom made or that existed? No, it sounds like you're in a grocery store.
Jimmy
No, there's.
Josh Peck
There's somebody's in the stock.
Jimmy
Exactly. No, there's like. You cited fridges, but at that they use a grocery store. You just buy it, cut a hole in your wall and then there you go. And you can have it where it goes out to your garage, which is what we do. So then people just come in your garage, open the back part, slide it in, they close the garage so other people can't. It is locked on the other side anyways. And then there you go. And so then you can always have food restocked. Always have the laundry done, clean clothes. But no one has to like come in your house.
Josh Peck
This is. This is just. My mind is blown.
Ben
I was, I was proud when I got the instant hot water thing near the faucet. I was like, you're doing well, Josh. My woody and nuts is. Yeah, so I have. I'm doing a lot of kids clothing laundry. This, the fold. It's as much folding as normal people clothes.
Jimmy
Yeah.
Ben
But it's 10 times the amount because of how many Clothes can fit into each load. What are you nuts? We need to figure out a better folding mechanism for kids clothes. Beast, get on it.
Jimmy
I got you.
Ben
I believe in you.
Jimmy
You could do it. Tesla. Tesla. Elon's on it. Tesla. Optimus.
Ben
I believe it.
Jimmy
Yeah, I just have Optimus do it. Perfect.
Ben
I'm in.
Jimmy
All right. My. What are your nuts? What's something that annoys me? Education. Why is it that your parents got taught the same way in school, that your kids are getting taught? Well, think of how, how much everything is advanced. But like, I mean, like, I, I was in school. What? I'm 27. Eight years, nine years ago. Like, I mean, a teacher would just stand there, read out of a book, write on a whiteboard wall. I mean, like, look at Mark Rober's videos. Look at all this amazing educational content where you learn such great or like such complex topics in like 20 minutes. And it's really engaging and fun and you retain it. And like, look at what we subject our kids to. Just like listening to a teacher read out of a book and the most boring way imaginable. Like, just because that's what our people, you know, our parents did, doesn't mean that's what we need to subject ourselves to. It makes no sense to me. I think education should be reformed dramatically. Like, I, I graduated from school thinking books suck and books are boring and I never read a book. But reality, they were just giving me shitty books that I hate. And I loved actually listening to audiobooks. I love the goal. And I loved Walter Eisen's biography on Steve Jobs and Elon Musk and blah, blah. But like, it's. The problem is just every book they gave me in school is terrible. And I'm also a very visual learner and I retain information at least three times more effectively when I see a visual of it as opposed to just like hearing it or whatever. And so it's like for just a lot of kids, I don't know, I just think education is just silly. Like, it's stupid. Like, and with how much time they spend in it. Like, if you actually had like real courses, like, you know, made through videos, and we actually made things more hands on and we just like actually optimize these things with modern technology. Like, they could probably learn things in way less than eight hours a day. I mean, you could probably learn more knowledge in like five hours a day and give so much freedom back to kids in their youth to do things. You know, that's not to be such a conspiracy theorist.
Josh Peck
That's a great one of your nuts, by the way. Not to be such a conspiracy theorist, but it's so bad that it makes you think that they really don't want them to learn anything. Like, it makes you think that it.
Jimmy
Makes you think that a different country is, like, sabotaging our education.
Josh Peck
How can you possibly think that? This amount of time waking up, sometimes when it's dark out to get to school, kids need sleep. They're getting no sleep. They're going and learning about absolutely nothing that interests them. For what? For nothing.
Jimmy
I didn't use, like, 98 of what I learned in school ever. Once. Not a single time in my life. So y. And I. I. I've learned more since I've graduated. Just from what? I don't know if you guys have ever seen the channel Veritasium or Mark Rober, but, like, I deep. My entire YouTube homepage is, like, educational knowledge videos or Kurds or not. And there's. It's just school trained me to think I hated learning, but no, I just hated their methods. And so there's just so much more engaging, better ways of going about it. So I don't know. I think someone. It's not me. I got too much stuff going on. But someone needs to reform education. I. Whenever I do have a kid, I just. I dread the thought of some teacher reading out of a book. Like, I mean, it's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
Ben
Well, now they have new math. I hate to break it. You heard about this new math?
Jimmy
What is it?
Ben
It's new.
Jimmy
Is it calculus?
Ben
I stay away from it.
Jimmy
Okay, but.
Ben
No, no, but, like, I was really trying to teach my son multiplication the other day, and my wife, she's like, you're sabotaging him. I guess there's, like, a new method on how to approach this math.
Jimmy
You don't put the numbers. Numbers X. And then.
Ben
I guess not. I was all right. I was like, division, you know, Here we go.
Jimmy
Oh, really?
Ben
She was like, don't.
Jimmy
You're an idiot. Does.
Ben
You're right.
Jimmy
I need to learn new math. So when I type into ChatGPT, I know what it's doing.
Ben
Yes. Yeah, but what you don't need to do right now is do anything other than watch Beast Game Season 2 on.
Jimmy
Prime Video right now with your spritz Society.
Josh Peck
We're watching Oppenheimer. We're watching. We're going.
Jimmy
At the same time, I go into a theater, play Oppenheimer. Skip to Josh Peck's part while watching Beast Games on your phone with Spritz Society.
Josh Peck
Yes. That's the Holy Grail.
Jimmy
Exactly. That is peak dopamine.
Josh Peck
That is peak dopamine.
Jimmy
And then drive home on your own right afterwards.
Josh Peck
Yes, yes. Drive off the road, fast as you can. It's the best. Last day.
Ben
Are we still recording? Olivia?
Jimmy
Every time. Every time I encourage someone to drink and drive. Can we put a disclaimer that I'm joking?
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got it.
Jimmy
We have a video team. Okay.
Ben
We could do that.
Josh Peck
Can we do that disclaimer?
Jimmy
We could do it.
Josh Peck
He's joking.
Jimmy
So now I can tell him to drink and drive because there's a disclaimer that I don't.
Josh Peck
There's the disclaimer. Okay, the disclaimer is there. Jimmy, thank you. This has been an absolute pleasure. Is there anything else?
Jimmy
No, I'm just very grateful for both of you traveling all the way out here to do this podcast.
Ben
Thank you.
Josh Peck
Thank you.
Jimmy
I know it wasn't easy to get on a flight.
Josh Peck
It wasn't. It was very hard. Lives here. He could have come to me and made him travel.
Jimmy
By the way, he's got three kids. Your kid doesn't have school yet.
Ben
He could have come.
Josh Peck
You're so, so right. You're so right. That said, I don't know if it could have gone better if I was in person. I don't know if it would have been better.
Jimmy
It probably would have been worse.
Josh Peck
I think it would have been much worse. You would have seen me right now.
Ben
I don't.
Josh Peck
240 on screen. I probably look 190, max. You see me in person, you're like, oh, he's too fat. He's too fat for me to talk to him.
Jimmy
Yeah, that would just have been fat shaming. The whole time. You stayed away, so we didn't fat shame. I, I, that's so logical. Very, very logical deductions here.
Josh Peck
This episode, five stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and Tick Tock Mondays and Thursdays.
Jimmy
We've given them way too many. Call to actions, bro. You gotta pick one.
Ben
Let's pick another contact. Oh, no.
Josh Peck
By the way, Jimmy, tell me, what should we do? What's a better way?
Jimmy
If you actually want someone to do something, just say one thing. You just said. Rate this Buy share. No one's gonna.
Josh Peck
Okay, okay, I got it. I got it.
Ben
Pray for us.
Jimmy
Done. Because we're drunk driving.
Ben
Pray for us.
Jimmy
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Episode: MrBeast on Fatherhood, Relationships, and Timothée Chalamet
Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Guest: Jimmy Donaldson (MrBeast)
Date: January 15, 2026
This episode of Good Guys features Jimmy “MrBeast” Donaldson, one of the world’s most prolific YouTubers, joining hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer. The trio dives into topics ranging from relentless content creation and the nature of drive, to fatherhood, relationships, the realities behind viral success, and a candid review of Timothée Chalamet’s career and latest projects. The conversation balances humor, authenticity, and practical insight for creators and fans alike.
Relentless Schedule & Work Ethic
"I'm pretty much booked every hour of every day this year." – Jimmy (01:04)
"Energy drinks just taste like battery acid. So I just like to pop the caffeine and get it done." (01:13)
Being Tired as a Competitive Advantage
"That being able to work even though you are tired, even though you don't want to, is the competitive advantage in our field." (01:31)
"If you're not producing, you just don't exist, you know?" (02:18)
"If Logan Paul tries to drag you to a club, maybe do it. Just go. You might meet your fiancé." (06:02)
Balancing Kids & Ambition
"My day is now spent...even when I'm not with [my son], just thinking about him. What is he doing? Is he happy?...I think that I can't buy that and I want that." – Ben (07:14–08:19)
"What percentage though, of your work time do you think you lost? Not lost, but are now investing in your child?" (08:19)
Candid Advice
"It's a sacrifice, but it's worth it." – Jimmy (11:07)
Greatest Mentorship
"With how much you love to mentor people, like, this is the greatest project you've ever had." (09:55)
"Now here we are, 14, 13...years later, and then she's like, to the person that she banned in the household: ‘Do I know you’?" (12:44)
"What a waste of time ... Just do YouTube." (13:52)
"It’s like having to remember lines ... acting is brutal, man...I just do me [on YouTube]. Whereas in acting you're not." (15:30–16:28)
Impressions of Marty Supreme
"There's a lot less ping pong than I thought there would be. There's a lot more sex." (21:12, 21:24)
“I think he should…Timothée definitely should [win an Oscar]. He’s phenomenal…” (22:33)
Why Chalamet Is a Unique Star
"He feels way more approachable. Infinitely more. ... He is just so relevant among especially 20-year-olds and people in their 30s." – Jimmy (32:50)
Pitfalls of Success
“If they start buying, like, really nice things…you're not going to be one of the greats because eventually you'll have those things...the videos go downhill.” (25:49)
Pursuing Passion Over Money
"You got to be motivated by winning." (27:40)
“I’m not going to just let people sling stuff out to 450 million people…” (34:19)
“We got the pyramids of Egypt for 100 hours…spend 100 hours there, explore the pyramids unrestricted…was insane. Wow. Yeah. That was one of the most fun things I’ve ever done.” (35:13)
“I think education should be reformed dramatically...I’d dread the thought of some teacher reading out of a book.” (39:01–41:56)
On the Cost of Ambition:
“The fact that I am tired means I’m doing something that other people wouldn’t do because they would definitely just go to sleep.” – Jimmy (01:31)
On Fatherhood:
"You have to be there and hold them... every worry in your brain is gone. Like it's, it's, it's a dopamine hit unlike anything I've ever experienced." – Ben (09:34)
On Fame & Clubs:
“A line will form like out the door...not to get into club, but just to take a photo with me!” – Jimmy (05:20)
On Motivation:
“If your motivation for grinding…is so you can buy a nice car and maybe buy a nice house, like, you’re not going to be one of the greats.” (25:53)
The episode is casual, witty, and unfiltered. Josh and Ben riff as longtime friends, while Jimmy matches their candor with honest, sometimes blunt observations from his life as a YouTube megastar. There’s frequent joking, quick tangents, and a willingness to poke fun at themselves and each other.
A lively, revealing conversation blending career insight, personal stories, and serious reflections on the cost of ambition. Jimmy pulls back the curtain on the realities of creator burnout, the changing face of fame, and the need for educational reform—while reminding everyone that loving what you do (and who you do it with) is still the ultimate competitive edge.