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Josh Peck
The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Josh Peck.
Ben Soffer
And I'm Ben Soffer. And we're the Good Guys.
Josh Peck
There's a lot of guys out there.
Ben Soffer
And we're the good ones.
Josh Peck
Mazda Morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with the Wonderful wizard of Ozempic. It's Ben Saunder.
Ben Soffer
Oh. Your best one yet. Oh, my God. Wicked. Josh, I know I texted this to you last night. I know. I get it. You don't wanna hear it. I get it.
Josh Peck
No, I do.
Ben Soffer
You don't wanna hear it. This was the movie of my lifetime. I've never, ever, ever had a more transformational experience. I thought I was on drugs.
Josh Peck
Oh, my God.
Ben Soffer
I thought I was on drugs. When Cynthia Erivo sings Defying Gravity in front of this big, gorgeous screen with honestly, like, illusions that made me feel like I was on mushrooms. I had an out of body experience. I was smiling for an hour and a half after I left the theater and all I could think about is how much I hated the Barbie movie.
Josh Peck
Preach on it, brother.
Ben Soffer
For whatever reason, I just like. Not for whatever reason. Two huge movies, right? Or perceived huge movies. 150 million in marketing. I looked these up for Barbie. 160 million for Wicked. Okay? Two huge movies that were pushed down our throat. And one of them was good. Wicked was so fucking good. It was so good. And it was the exact message that I think Barbie was trying to convey without shoving it down our throats to the point of me completely rejecting it. Which is like, there's like a story of, like, fighting the man. That's the same thing with Wicked. Oz, if you guys know anything about it, this is not a spoiler alert, okay? Wicked has been on Broadway for 40 years. This is not a spoiler alert. Oz is just a guy. He pretends that he's this big wizard, all these powers. He has no powers. He's a man behind the cloak and he's pulling all the levers. And he needs the power of this beautiful female witch, Elphaba, to go in and perform all the magic that he can't. And the story is about empowerment and the story is about doing what's right. And Wicked delivered on it in the most unbelievable, grandiose way. The only thing that was missing was. Josh, you should have been in that movie.
Josh Peck
Oh, my God. I should be in all movies, all the time, fucking asleep.
Ben Soffer
Did you. Did you even get the nod? Like, did you audition for Wicked? Did you know it was happening?
Josh Peck
No.
Ben Soffer
Why not? There were 2 million people in that movie.
Josh Peck
I could have been, dude, Ariana Grande could have fallen in love with me, and I could be in a throuple right now.
Ben Soffer
You could have. And I don't even know if Paige would be upset. Like, the. Honestly, the value of Ariana being in your throuple. You could have been her boyfriend. The mayor of Munchkinland. You could have been the mayor of Munchkin Land. Yes.
Josh Peck
I am barely 5 11.
Ben Soffer
It was actually so sad. Like, he is the mayor of Munchkin Land for, like, All Things Considered, is like a big loser in the movie. And she. He goes up to her and he's like, I think you're so beautiful. I want to date you. And she's like, actually, you see that handicapped woman over there? I think you should date her.
Josh Peck
Hell, yeah.
Ben Soffer
And then you think to yourself, wow, these people are dating in real life and they feel like they're a real match. All that I'm going to say quickly on the handicapped. Quickly. Okay, Josh. I know. Take a while.
Josh Peck
Handicapped.
Ben Soffer
You're like, what is he going to say now? They cast a handicapped woman to play a handicapped role. And all I have to say is, bravo. Learning from your mistakes. Way to go, movies. Way to go. Wicked. Probably the opportunity of a lifetime for her. And it was just wonderful to see.
Josh Peck
Well, I am. I'm just blown away. You've really sold it. I probably won't see it. I mean, here's the interesting thing, right? And I think you make a really good point about the Barbie movie, which was that. And shout out the Barbie movie. Love it, love it, love it, love it, love it. But Bill Maher had said on this show, he's like, what's interesting, the reality is on the board of Mattel, right? Because that's a big scene in the movie where it's all men and Will Ferrell in reality, today, in 2024, it's 50% men, 50% women, which I would say, amazing, right? Like, this is. That should be all boards.
Ben Soffer
Yeah.
Josh Peck
And so I almost think that, like, had Barbie come out in 2018, it would have been. Its social commentary might have been slightly more prescient than when it did come out, because some of that good work that needed to happen had already started.
Ben Soffer
Yeah. I think that that's an amazing point. And that's sort of the point I've been trying to make in less eloquent words, like, Barbie was pushed as something and we didn't need it. Couldn't it have just been a movie about Barbies? It was About Barbie dolls. Like, not everything needs to be a social commentary. Wicked was so good that it was a non social commentary. That made me think it was a social commentary because the movie was that good. It wasn't the agenda forced down my throat about the patriarchy. Like it was just a great movie. Amazing. Josh, you have to see it. I'll never say that about anything else. You don't have to watch Game of Thrones. You don't have to see Harry Potter.
Josh Peck
I've seen Harry Potter. Love Harry Potter.
Ben Soffer
You don't have to watch Gilmore Girls. None of this Wicked.
Josh Peck
Josh, I draw the fucking line on Gilmore Girls.
Ben Soffer
You don't have to watch any episode reruns of Reba. No Reba. Just Wicked. Oh, my God. It took my. It took. Took my breath away three times last night, Josh. I used the phrase bereft wrong. I kept saying Zeclaudia. I kept saying, I am bereft. She said, what are you grieving, Ben? That's not the right word. Your breath.
Josh Peck
You were so good on mourning.
Ben Soffer
I left the theater. I said, I am bereft from that last scene.
Josh Peck
If you were a critic. And it said on the poster, it's like Wicked left Ben Soffer.
Ben Soffer
Oh, my God. Olivia, did you see Wicked?
Olivia
I have not seen Wicked yet, but I'm so excited too. I'm so excited too. It's been the talk of the office.
Ben Soffer
It fucking just exceeded expectations. It was so good. And also like, Cynthia Erivo. Maybe I just wasn't onto her yet.
Josh Peck
Yeah.
Ben Soffer
Oh, my God. Does this woman have a voice? Like, she took the great Adele Dazeem and made her look like she was nothing. And now the wickedly talented Adele De Zieb.
Josh Peck
What do you think it was like in John Travolta's camp when that happened? Where the publicists were literally like, yes. Is the car ready? Okay. Oh, God.
Ben Soffer
And now the wickedly talented Adele.
Josh Peck
They're like, check Twitter. Check Twitter, Donna.
Ben Soffer
But yeah, Cynthia Erivo. I wasn't turned on. Now I'm turned on. I understand her. I get it. She is sick.
Josh Peck
Sick. She's a generational talent, like a gift from God, from the heavens.
Ben Soffer
Honestly. If you're not gonna see the movie, just on the ride home, just put on Defying Gravity sung by her. It's a seven minute version. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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Josh Peck
You know, I think what really started bringing her to prominence was when she was on Broadway in the Color Purple.
Ben Soffer
Yes.
Josh Peck
And she sings the song I'm Here and there's a clip of it on YouTube and you need to watch it because about every 90 seconds of a four minute song, the audience starts going insane. Like they start standing in the aisles. It's so moving. I mean, she's beyond. And Ariana is beyond so, so talented.
Ben Soffer
And shout out to Ariana, who is she? Has I looked up this morning, you know how many Instagram followers Ariana Grande has?
Josh Peck
Is she like the third most in the world, like behind Ronaldo?
Ben Soffer
She's 380 million followers. It's 380 million. Wicked is known to be, per my great source, my wife, known to be her favorite show. All she wanted was Elphaba because Elphaba is the star, right? All that she wanted was Elphaba and she gets put in this supporting role as Glenda. And when I tell you she did it unbelievably, but to be such an incredible actress, like incredible talent, so famous and step into that supporting role the way that she is, she was amazing.
Josh Peck
I give her all the credit in the world. I've known her since she was a teenager. I was basically a teenager. We grew up together in some respects and I just Remember that her and her mom would invite us over to parties at the house and whatnot. And I was there with my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time. And my wife always loves telling this story. She's like, I'm walking to try to find the bathroom and I'm hearing this beautiful belting singing voice. And she's like, I walk into the bathroom and Ariana's in there alone doing runs and going. Not having the runs, doing runs. And Ariana goes, sorry, there's just really great acoustics in here. And my wife goes, you can sing forever. Like, you never have to stop.
Ben Soffer
I didn't even think about that. So you know Ariana Grande?
Josh Peck
I mean, if I saw her. Yes, yes. But can I call her?
Ben Soffer
No, no, but you know her well enough that if you guys are two ships passing, perhaps you stop, a quick hug and you move on.
Josh Peck
I would say so, sure.
Ben Soffer
And so what is Ariana Grande like? Is she awesome? Is she fun? Is she funny? Does she live up to the hype?
Josh Peck
I would say yes to all those things. And I think the 1x factor to people like her who. I don't know if I've ever met anyone like this because I've met people once they popped and became famous. I don't think I've known people before the moment because obviously I knew her when she was on Nickelodeon, but she wasn't the global superstar that she is now quite yet. But when you heard her sing, you just went, oh, you're not for this world. Like, you don't belong amongst us civilians like you. Yeah, you need to rise to a higher level. So when she became famous, it was no surprise.
Ben Soffer
It's so interesting that very clearly the difference between a star and a superstar when it comes to child actors, Nickelodeon, Disney is singing. That is the difference. If you have those pipes, like a Britney Spears or a Sabrina Carpenter or a. Like, the list goes on. If you have that voice, you're a superstar. Right, Ariana. Ariana.
Josh Peck
So, yeah, I mean, Miley's got one of the coolest fucking voices of a generation.
Ben Soffer
Miley. Yeah, the list goes on. And I'm just saying, Josh, you have one hell of a voice. One hell of a voice.
Josh Peck
God bless you.
Ben Soffer
And not enough people have heard it.
Josh Peck
And look, there are the male superstars. Me, David Henry, Keenan Thompson.
Ben Soffer
It's you and Keenan. That's the only two I'm giving.
Josh Peck
It's not even me compared to Keenan. That's, you know. How long has he been on SNL? 50 years.
Ben Soffer
By the way, it's you. I know you don't want to hear it. You're the most famous person to come out of child stardom. Keenan just happened to fall into snl, and you fell into the Good Guys Sweating. This is better. This is bigger. What's snl?
Josh Peck
My game plan. My final life plan is this podcast, and that's it.
Ben Soffer
Me, too. I'm doing this forever. We need Keenan on, though. We should have him on to ask him, like, what's snl? Like, I wonder. I bet you it's terrible.
Josh Peck
It's terrible. I know what it's like.
Ben Soffer
It can't be fun. You don't want that. So stressful.
Josh Peck
I'll tell you how it's not fun if you're married with kids and don't do cocaine. Not fun.
Ben Soffer
Yeah, there you go. There you go. And everybody's always trying to get you to divorce your wife and do cocaine.
Josh Peck
I mean, basically, right? You perform Saturday night, then you have that famous post SNL party that Lorne Michaels is at for, you know, till five in the morning, right? So you recover on Sunday, and Monday morning you show up and you are there, and you are at a conference table with the host for the following week, and you're pitching your ideas. And then they pick, I don't know, 20, 30 sketches. And now if you. First of all, if you don't get picked, yikes, right? But if your sketch does get picked, now you gotta write it, right? And now you have to, like, spend Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, actually writing this thing and practicing it and hoping it's good. But by the way, now you've got an art department set design, props, costumes all banging down your door, being like, we have four days. What's the script like? Do I gotta go get a pilgrim outfit? Do I have to go buy, like, fake wings? Are we gonna rent out a McDonald's? Like, what are we doing? We need to build the set. We've got, like, three days. And then every day throughout the week, it just gets later and harder till Saturday when you're there doing, like, dress rehearsal all day. And then you, you know, and then you go on at 11:30 on Saturday night, and. And then people like us talk shit about you.
Ben Soffer
And then you need to match it with whoever is the host. Like, that part, I always think about that. People are like, oh, this week's SNL stunk. Maybe it was really hard to work with the host, but you never know what you're gonna get. Sometimes the host is super talented, and sometimes the host is like a bag of bones and you don't know what to do with them. It's just. Yeah, it's not a job that I envy whatsoever. It's definitely a job that if you wanna be famous, if you hit it right, you can definitely become famous because of the show. But I haven't really seen. What do you do after snl? Like, I guess, like, currently. Sure. In the past you're on snl. It can propel you to be a movie star. Today, it would seem. Like, what does it propel you into? Late night for one person. Seth Meyers. Like, I don't know. What'd you say?
Josh Peck
Jimmy Fallon.
Ben Soffer
Jimmy Fallon. So, yeah, late night. Late night is what it. But there's two of those jobs. Like, what is Colin Jost? Is he just gonna be. He's gonna be late night. Is that what he does after this?
Josh Peck
Colin will probably be late night because he's another. I think Seth. I mean, Seth is singular, but he's brilliant and he's handsome. And Colin, he's the head writer.
Ben Soffer
Yeah, I love him. Michael Che, hilarious. He's great.
Josh Peck
Yeah, Michael Che is brilliant. And obviously they've had, you know, some big stars from Kristen Wiig to, I'm sure, other people. But, like, who of the last 10 years has really popped? I'm trying to. I don't know. I don't watch.
Ben Soffer
It was Molly Shannon.
Josh Peck
Well, that's midnight. That's mid aughts. But, yeah, Molly Shannon, superstar.
Ben Soffer
I just think of that, like, group of. Honestly, they're really, really good at turning female comics into TV stars. Like, there's a lot, like, the Tina phase, like. And I'm trying to think of, like, current ones, but there's a lot. There's a lot of them.
Josh Peck
I mean, look, in the 90s, it was a factory. It was Chris Rock, Adam Sandler, Chris Farley, David Spade, I think David Allen Greer. Was he on it? Or he might have been in Living Color, you know, massive. And then Obviously in the 70s, it was Chevy Chase and John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd and Gilda Radner and all these people. So. But, you know, it just. I think you have to. Oh, Bill Hader. But you just have to really. I think Kate McKinnon, but you have to just be in love with the idea of SNL and it's. I don't know, it's sexiness. Me, I'm more of a mad TV guy. No, I'm kidding.
Ben Soffer
Like. Yeah, I don't know. What? I don't know. I don't know. So let's get Keenan on the show. We'll ask him his opinions. We'll go from there.
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Josh Peck
Should we get to some stories?
Ben Soffer
I would love to.
Josh Peck
Oh, we've got some good ones today and I think you are going to be happy. Well, winter penis could reduce sex organ by 50%. That's what I keep telling my wife. I'm like, when it gets below 60, don't knock on that door. Don't push that elevator button. And the New York Post says, don't let the cold weather keep you from heating up in the bedroom. A doctor is warning to watch out for winter penis, a seasonal condition that may hinder a man's ability to perform sexually. That's why I don't canoodle with the air conditioning on. The phenomenon which affects men of all ages can cause the male member to shrink in size by up to 50% while slowed circulation makes achieving an erection difficult when the thermostat drops.
Ben Soffer
I'm so confused. Are people fucking outside?
Josh Peck
I don't know. Or maybe there's just a chill in the house. Maybe you live in the Berkshires or, you know, turn on a fire.
Ben Soffer
This is not a good excuse. Like, unless you're, like, having sex behind a Shoprite in 34 degrees, which, by the way, sounds amazing.
Josh Peck
Yeah, it sounds great. And then you raid the garbage for what they threw out of the salad bar.
Ben Soffer
Is that your hand or the raccoon's?
Josh Peck
Mmm. Macaroni salad.
Ben Soffer
Oh, man. Winter penis. All right, look, I'll take any excuse for the inability to perform. Works for me.
Josh Peck
That was my first winter pity name. Well, the top fast food restaurant where men take women on a first date has been revealed. That's right. More and more Americans are complaining about dating amid inflation. So what's a cash strapped singleton to do? It turns out that the age of casual dating is finding itself in casual dining. DatingNews.com surveyed 3,000American singles and found the number one answer was Chick Fil A. With over 16% of daters choosing the chicken joint as their go to fast food date spot.
Ben Soffer
This is no good, Josh. This is no good.
Josh Peck
Why?
Ben Soffer
A first date at Chick Fil a you couldn't even spring for, like, somewhere you can sit with a waiter, An Applebee's, a Chili's for a TGI Fridays if they're still around, like something like something with a waiter or a waitress. Chick Fil A. This is no good, guys. This is no good.
Josh Peck
But Chick Fil a is like, it's elevated.
Ben Soffer
No, no, there's no waiter or waitress. That's not a date. You just got her a chicken sandwich and told her to take a hike. This is no good. This is why divorce rates are skyrocketing. These men aren't considerate. Take this chicken sandwich and head for the door, why don't you? When you ask her to park your car?
Josh Peck
And yet a first date could happen at a coffee shop at a similar price point.
Ben Soffer
Absolutely. You bring up a wonderful point. I think Starbucks is a far better first date than a Chick Fil A.
Josh Peck
Interesting.
Ben Soffer
Far better. Interesting. A smaller guy A Pete's maybe. What's another one? I don't know. La Colombe?
Josh Peck
Yeah, maybe take him to a Dutch.
Ben Soffer
Bros. Sure, why not?
Josh Peck
Yes, but there Is something different between saying, hey, do you want to meet up for a coffee? I'd love to get to know you at Starbucks. And do you want to meet up for a coffee? I'd love to get to know you at a Dunkin. Like, there's something different about Dunkin.
Ben Soffer
Totally. No, don't take her on a date to Dunkin. Don't do it. No, that's good.
Josh Peck
No, you want to hit a Double D and get to know each other.
Ben Soffer
It's funny that you brought up Starbucks. I was thinking it this morning. Every morning. By the way, I do my mobile order. I don't know if everybody's onto this, but the mobile order on Starbucks, Unbelievable.
Josh Peck
The whole app. The whole app is fabulous.
Ben Soffer
It's fabulous. It's the greatest consumer experience ever. You place it, it's there. Once you get there, it's ready. No question, no questions asked. It's unbelievable. That said, I really hope these baristas, Josh, are being paid more because, my God, is it a factory because of mobile orders? I don't know about you. I get in there and these baristas are sweating. They're making three coffees at a time. They are. The volume with these mobile orders is through the roof. So all I gotta say, I hope that you're tipping your baristas, because it's not. It's not. You're not thinking to tip your barista. You're tipping. Thinking to tip the cashier. We're no longer interfacing with a cashier because it's all mobile. I like to give my nice barista a five every once in a while. It's the same guy. His name is Roy. Say thank you. Because these people, they're working overtime.
Josh Peck
That's a good move. I had a buddy who worked at Starbucks. He said they pull the tips, you know, but you definitely want to give a little something directly to your man's.
Ben Soffer
But do you get tips, Josh, anymore? You don't get tips through mobile.
Josh Peck
Oh, the mobile tipping, yeah. I mean, I'm sure they have to give you. I tip through mobile. I always give $2. I'm $2, peck.
Ben Soffer
Oh, am I accidentally tipping on mobile? And I don't realize it do both.
Josh Peck
The truth of the matter is, Starbucks certainly isn't paying anyone a living wage. Wow. This went from the Starbucks execs being like, we're gonna sponsor this show to run, run, run, run, run away.
Ben Soffer
No, I'm in. Oh, you can leave a tip. I just never do.
Josh Peck
Yeah, dude.
Ben Soffer
By the way, so Starbucks, one quick Thought. Put a suggested tip amount in there for me. I do. I can always remove it, but I didn't even realize. Okay, so put in a nice nickel. Just put in.
Josh Peck
I gave you a shiny nickel. I shined it with my big nose. Throw.
Ben Soffer
Throw in a half dollar.
Josh Peck
Throw in a John F. Kennedy half dollar. Do you do the fun games where you can win points on your Starbucks app? Oh, I hope I didn't flash my pin number.
Ben Soffer
No, I didn't know that. By the way, I don't spend that much time he. There are games in the app.
Josh Peck
No. So once a week, it'll be like, hey, if you go the next three days in a row, you can get 100 extra stars. And as we all know, 200 stars gets a free drink.
Ben Soffer
What? You're kidding. Do you fucking. Did you. Not even on your birthday? No, I just spend money, Josh. I don't look at rewards. Oh, my God. I have a. Oh, I have a lot. I have 1400 stars.
Josh Peck
No. Yeah, I've never had that many. You cashing them in?
Ben Soffer
Look, I've never cashed them in. I didn't even know.
Josh Peck
Dude, you got the gold shimmer. That means you can get merchandise.
Ben Soffer
Oh, my God.
Josh Peck
Oh, my God. You can get a French press. You can be getting tumblers.
Ben Soffer
Wait, you can have tumblers up the yin yang. I can get everything. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Josh Peck
That's good for like, five breakfast sandwiches and two croissants.
Ben Soffer
Wait, I need it. No, I'm kidding. I'm Starbucks royalty. I had no idea. I have no idea. 59 of them expire on December 1st.
Josh Peck
Start unloading.
Ben Soffer
Unload.
Josh Peck
This is important, dude. Gonna waste stars in this economy. In Biden's America. No, I'm kidding.
Ben Soffer
Oh, my God. Okay, well, good to know. I'm so happy we had this conversation. I'm Starbucks royalty and yeah, that's it. I'm going to start redeeming for T shirts.
Josh Peck
Hey, did you know that fans are shocked over Lizzo's weight loss? As singer twins with lookalike mom Sherry in matching braids, Lizzo shocked fans with her dramatic weight loss during the night out with her lookalike mom, Sherri Johnson Jefferson. The about damn Time songstress took to Instagram Friday to share photos and a video of herself riding in the backseat of an suv. She was wearing an off the shoulder crop top and denim shorts for the outing, styling her hair in milkmaid braids. She does look incredible.
Ben Soffer
I'm going to take a peek. Nothing quite. Nothing quite like taking a look at a woman and then objectifying her on your podcast. Let's take a look.
Josh Peck
I mean, we're just talking about an article in the New York Post. We're celebrating her.
Ben Soffer
Which one? This recent picture of Lizzo taking a selfie in the.
Josh Peck
In. In a car.
Ben Soffer
In a car. Oh, yeah, I see. Oh, okay. Josh, come on.
Josh Peck
Oh, here it comes. Olivia, a man. Splain this one. You part of the problem.
Ben Soffer
Peter, come on. What an unbelievable angle that is. A top down. I would literally like this. I would look half a pound.
Josh Peck
You are. Let me see. Hold on.
Ben Soffer
How skinny do you look? Stick out your neck. You look unbelievable.
Josh Peck
You know, I have good neck regardless.
Ben Soffer
Yeah, but I'm just saying, Olivia, you agree, angles are everything.
Olivia
Angles are everything. Angles are everything. I love the movements of people who are, like, posting their, you know, self or like their picture on Instagram where it's posed perfectly in a bikini, whatever. And then next to it, you have the one that's unposed, and it looks like there's like a 50 pound difference. It's all in the angle. It's all in the angle.
Ben Soffer
It's all in the angle, Josh. That said, Lizzo, you look great.
Josh Peck
Except I will say pretty people, like models, don't have bad angles. Like, have you ever been around an actually attractive person? Like a real. Like a professionally attractive. They're like, they look good from all angles.
Ben Soffer
But if you still. It's still. If you took a picture of them from below, you could make them look significantly worse. Like, you'll. You'll be in, I don't know, you and Paige will be at the mall. Whatever you guys do, maybe shopping, sniffing a couple of candles, picking up an Auntie Ann's Cinnabon. You, Paige, Max and shy, you want somebody to take a family photo of you, you get that person. He's either doing this up top, he's doing this in the middle, or he's doing this below, thinking he's doing something artsy. And if he takes that below photo, you're unhappy. That's all.
Josh Peck
Okay, okay.
Ben Soffer
That's all. That's all. Speaking of Auntie Ann's.
Josh Peck
Wow. So delicious. I'm a Wetzel's man. Only because there's not a lot of antis out here.
Ben Soffer
Wetzel's is fantastic as well. There's going to be no Wetzel slander from me. You take a beautiful nugget, a beautiful pretzel nugget, and you dunk it in some cheese, or if you're feeling sweet, you put it in a little Bit of cinnamon sugar.
Josh Peck
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you my routine with my son. My son takes parkour lessons in an abandoned shopping mall. And we tried baseball, and it's basically in this mall. And it's like a gigantic gymnastics place. And all they have open on the first floor is one cart with a Wetzel pretzel. I was like, fine. One day I didn't get a water before parkour. There's water breaks. It's very exhausting. And. And I was like, why don't I get a nice Wetzel pretzel? I haven't had it in forever. So they take it out. They basted with the bun and the flaky sea salt. Let me tell you, me and my son looked at each other. By the end of this thing, we're like, oh, my God, this is delish. Now every water break during the hour, my son's running up, shoving Wetzel in his mouth, using his big buttery hands to try to scale the walls. I'm like, you're an embarrassment, son. But it's so. Oh, man, Wetzel's is delish. Now we do it every. I have one once a week.
Ben Soffer
Oh, so good.
Josh Peck
I know.
Ben Soffer
Absolutely phenomenal.
Josh Peck
Do you think I should go to.
Ben Soffer
Voice lessons to really just hone in on your singing?
Josh Peck
Thank you for saying that. Well, I would like to do that separately. This is actual. I have a fear, and I'm going to share it with the crowd. And if anyone who majors in voice or is a speech pathologist, what have you listening, turn up the volume. Dm old Uncle Josh. I have a very specific voice. I know I do. I sound like a 12 year old with emphysema. It's kind of high pitched forever. When I would call for Chinese takeout, they'd go, ma'am, it'll be $94. It'll be there within 20 minutes. But I worry or I've realized. And I had an acting teacher tell me this, a very, very famous acting teacher who, like, coached all the biggest actors in the world. And he suggested, he's like, you should go for vocal lessons for your speaking voice. Because he's like, I think you're straining when you talk. And that this voice that you've created is kind of like this amalgamate of. You have a higher voice, but it's like some anxiety, some people pleasing, some showmanship. And if you actually relax, you talk like this. No. The next episode. Mazel mus, morons. Welcome back to an episode of the Good Guys. So should I work On, I don't know. This voice is a light of presentation.
Ben Soffer
I think you should do whatever you want. I personally think that your voice is great. I don't think that you sound like a woman. I think that I also thought at one point that I sounded like a woman. I don't think I currently sound like a woman. I definitely know that I have a distinct voice. I think that you have a distinct voice. I think that when I think of acting teachers, take this with a grain of salt. I understand that's the acting teacher for the stars, right? But there are two things to consider with an acting teacher. The first is like anybody else, like any other consultant, all he wants to do is fix you. Even if there's no problem to fix. He makes money by fixing Josh. By convincing Josh he has a problem and then fixing Josh. That's the first thing. The second thing is you're only an acting teacher if you couldn't act. Okay. So like I just wouldn't put too much stock in the random opinion of even if they're in very high regard. But would I wouldn't.
Josh Peck
Let me ask. Would you say that about Bill Belichick or Pat Riley or Phil Jackson? Some of the greatest coaches that have ever existed?
Ben Soffer
I would say that to them when it comes to telling a shooter because this just happened. Think about it. In basketball, the Knicks. Tom Thibodeau, unbelievable. Coach, coach of the Knicks. We traded for a guy named Mikel Bridges. Mikel Bridges last year shot almost 50% from three. Incredible shot. We signed him for an ungodly amount of money and then the Knicks coaching staff changed his shot. His shot is completely different. It started in the middle, now it starts up top. It's ugly. He's having his worst shooting of the season. Sorry. Though. His worst shooting percentage of his career. Because coaches over coached and told him to change something such as his shot, which to me is the same as you changing your voice. They can tell you to stand differently, try out for different parts, try singing, try this. But to me, telling somebody to change their voice, which is something they've been doing forever, would only make them self conscious and not be able to perform their natural God given abilities to shoot or act.
Josh Peck
A great coach can say this is what you're doing wrong. And I think they have a vision, they have a very specific way. And look, I see it with my. And granted he played right, but I see it with my father in law because he was a quarterback coach at USC and now he coaches young guys who play for UCLA all different teams, and he will make these minor adjustments in them that I don't know how you could see other than having this brilliant eye for coaching. You know, I also wonder if Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would have been the greatest coaches in the world, maybe not the greatest players, but maybe it didn't translate. So I think a great coach is a unique gift.
Ben Soffer
A great coach is a unique gift, but a great coach doesn't change a person. It puts them in the spot that they need to be to succeed in. So, like, a great coach doesn't change the way a quarterback throws. A great coach recognizes that maybe that person's just not best suited as a quarterback, and they'd be far better as a running back or looks at, like, the skills they have and applies it to the field. Like, to me, it's not a voice coach. That said, if you want to do it, go in eyes wide open. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. To me, it's more like, is the part right for you, or are you doing this right in this? I don't like you changing your voice personally. Also, I saw TikTok quickly, just to make you feel even better about yourself. Okay. Saying, is Josh Peck starting to look like Adrian Grenier?
Josh Peck
Thank you, honey. Olivia says it to me every time I walk in here. It's getting weird.
Ben Soffer
No, I saw that you look like Adrian Grenier, and I again saw a TikTok comparing me to Chris Farley, so.
Josh Peck
Well, both are true. And no, I get Adrian Grenier on my good days, and I get Jay Leno after falling down the mountain outside of his hamstring.
Ben Soffer
Put a pause on Leno because I want to talk about Leno.
Josh Peck
You have to talk about Leno.
Ben Soffer
Okay, but do we. Are we done with this? He's getting voice.
Josh Peck
In conclusion, all I'll say is what his. His observation. This acting coach and my acting coach, who I've seen forever, a woman named Sharon Chattan, was very helpful with this with, like, the. They kind of. I think a great coach, as an acting coach, says, we want to make you available to do as many different parts as possible. Right? Like, that's like a great gift that an acting coach can give you is that instead of only being able to play these three people, now you can play 10, right? So you've just expanded the net. And his thing to me was like, you have a very youthful voice. You have a very like. And it works great for a particular kind of part. But if you ever had to play in older, maybe a period, maybe A curmudgeonly type like I think he was. And by the way, it would be a degree. It wouldn't be like some noticeable thing. Just all of a sudden, after a couple months, you'd be like, josh. Josh sounds a little more hearty.
Ben Soffer
This I agree with. Okay, This I agree with. Should you change your voice to be in a British period piece? Absolutely.
Josh Peck
Obviously, I don't think that you should.
Ben Soffer
Go in with your same voice if you're going to be a cowboy. I hear that for sure, for sure. Leno, Josh Leno. Leno. J1 have you heard about this? Olivia1 is he.
Josh Peck
Have you heard? Are you too Gen Z for Jay Leno?
Olivia
No, I am not too Gen Z for Jay Leno.
Ben Soffer
He's fascinating and you've seen what happens to him right now.
Josh Peck
Look it up. The man is a gift from the gods.
Ben Soffer
He's having some issues. So, Josh, I wanna know. One, is he addicted to drugs? Two, is he addicted to alcohol? Three, is he in trouble with his bookie or. I'm trying to think of a fourth. Or is he just a really.
Josh Peck
Or is he in iron or.
Ben Soffer
He tried to abusive relationship with his.
Josh Peck
Face turned black and blue. Well, didn't he get.
Olivia
He had that fire. There was a fire in his garage, right?
Ben Soffer
This one he claims, this most recent one, he was walking like down a hill and fell 50 yards or something.
Josh Peck
Outside of his room at the Hampton Inn. Mind you, the Hampton Inn in Pennsylvania. Like, I mean, the man looks like he shops at John Fetterman's Men's.
Ben Soffer
You just see him at Goodwill and pa.
Josh Peck
I mean, I don't. For anyone who doesn't know, the famous late night host who hosted Late night before Jimmy Fallon, he basically, recently, a couple years ago, he's a massive car fan, owns hundreds of cars, was in a car fire while working on a car that burned off half his face and part of his body. He was in a burn institute. And then recently, yeah, he said he was doing a gig in Pennsylvania, comedy gig, in his mid-70s, walked out of a Hampton Inn, out of the back door of his, like the patio of his room. I'm sure he had like a junior suite. And if he can swing it and fell 60ft down, broke his wrist, lost a nail on his middle finger and his face looks like it was hit by a fucking Mack truck.
Ben Soffer
It's bad.
Josh Peck
And he has an eye patch.
Ben Soffer
So the Internet is asking the right questions, which is what actually happened to Jay Leno? I'm sorry, I'm not buying that. He was Just staying at the Hampton Inn. Took a misstep and fell 60ft down a hill. This one. Why was he in the Hampton Inn? Okay, two, what's he doing walking out the back, falling down a hill? It just. Things just aren't adding up. You're not hiking at your Hampton Inn. I just don't get it. So my theory is he was meeting somebody at the Hampton Inn and, you know, things got a little ugly and they took him and they threw him down the hill outside the Hampton Inn. I think he's having trouble. Money trouble.
Josh Peck
It's impossible.
Ben Soffer
Okay, what do you think?
Josh Peck
Impossible. Do you know all the stories about Leno?
Ben Soffer
No.
Josh Peck
Leno, famously. First of all, from what I've heard from comedians over the years, in the late 80s and early 90s, Leno was maybe one of the greatest standups ever. And he's gotten a lot of shit because over the years, during the 90s and 2000s, they just kind of thought he became hacky and a little bit just like, you know, typical network TV comedian, not. Not that edgy. But first of all, he's proven to be an incredible guy. That when there were, I think during the writers strike in the mid-2000s, when basically every late night show during a writer's strike has to go dark, and that means hundreds of people go out of work, he took his salary of $30 million, and he took half of it and floated the entire crew for his show for 18 months, paid them all their salary.
Ben Soffer
Wow, what a guy. And maybe that's why now he's broke.
Josh Peck
But he famously never touched his late night money and continued to tour, like, every weekend because he has no kids. He's obviously obsessed with working. And I don't want to make this sound like a negative. I love Jay Leno. Like, I'm very. I'm very impressed. I think he's an incredible guy. So I think he's got plenty of money. I just think he might be a little clumsy. Little cutie.
Ben Soffer
Yeah, maybe. Okay.
Josh Peck
Or not. Or. You're right, Ben.
Ben Soffer
I don't know. It just seems fishy to me. I'd rather. Because I am such a fan, I'd rather just. He's clumsy. We'll leave it at that. He's clumsy.
Josh Peck
But the craziest thing is, in the great Nicole Byer, who's going to come on the pod, said this on her Instagram. She said, hold on. He. Then the day it happened, he performed that night with the fucked up face and the iPad and the broken wrist.
Ben Soffer
He's like, okay, I have another theory, though.
Josh Peck
Colgate Partners, like, good morning, Tyson foods. I'm chicken.
Ben Soffer
I have another theory. Here's the other theory. That wherever he was performing, Josh, okay, they had him under like a ten year contract, okay? And Leno wanted out. He's like, I'm not doing this anymore. I don't want to perform for you. They beat the shit out of him. And then he went on stage.
Josh Peck
Wow.
Ben Soffer
Maybe you like that. Maybe like that. He said, I'm done. And they said, no, you're not.
Josh Peck
Look, there is a comedy club called the Hermosa Comedy and Magic Club in, in California, in Los Angeles. And I know what you're thinking. I've never heard of it. And that's what I would say. Exactly. Okay? Leno drives down there every week and performs. He has a residency at this club once a week.
Ben Soffer
Yeah, this is old Josh. This is an old deal. He's in over his head. When he was young, he's like, I'm gonna wanna do this. I want the consistent money. I'll sign a lifetime deal. And now he's 70 and he wants out. And they're beating the shit out of him to get him to go on stage. This is a problem. Oh, poor Leno.
Josh Peck
Should we get to a speak pipe?
Ben Soffer
Yeah, let's do it. Hopefully Leno calls in one speak pipe before.
Josh Peck
What are you nuts? If you want to leave us a message, get advice from us. Keep it brief. Brevity is key. We don't want to hear your what are you nuts? Is we want you to ask us for advice and make it weird and scary. The weirder the better. Go to speak vibe.com good. Guys, this is from Kelsey. This isn't from Kelsey. Let me reload this because I don't know how to do it. This is from Kelsey.
Kelsey
Hi, Josh and Ben. This is more on Kelsey. Quick question. Over the weekend, I got to see Ina Garten, the Barefoot Contessa talk in Boston. She talked about all her new memoir, her life with Jeff free, yada, yada. So she talks about the most perfect dinner party. You need the right music, the right cocktail and the right meal. So what I want to know from you two, what is you're making your perfect dinner party, who are you inviting? What are you using for music, what do you make for a cocktail? And what are you making for dinner? Thanks. Love you guys.
Ben Soffer
Wow. Excellent.
Josh Peck
Ah.
Ben Soffer
I didn't know Aina was touring. I would have gone.
Josh Peck
I know, it's huge. You don't have her memoir. Call yourself a fan.
Ben Soffer
No, nobody sent it to me. I would have gotten it. I didn't even know it was out. I'm going to buy it now, though. I'm going to buy it. Ina, I love you. Love her. You want to go first? You want me to go first?
Josh Peck
I'll go first. It would be great jazz standards. John Coltrane, Miles Davis. You heard it here first. The drink would be some sort of mule. I like this ginger beer. And then the alcoholics, they can add the alcohol to it, but I'll just drink a ginger beer or a delicious mint mojito spritzer. A little spritzer. And then the people there, it's going to be Ben and his beautiful wife, Clania. It's going to be the wonderful Olivia and Ethan. And then maybe the couple from that show, the Roloffs from Roloff Farm. Little people, big world. Just like two randos. And I'm going to watch Ben try to not comment on the fact that they're little people all night.
Ben Soffer
And what are you eating?
Josh Peck
Oh, what are we eating? We'll do beautiful smash, thin chicken cutlets served in the Israeli style with a lemon spritz. A good arugula salad, fresh parmesan, balsamic on top. Then we're going to do a light pasta dish. Really nice. And at the end, ice cream cake.
Ben Soffer
Excellent. You and your little people and me are going to have a blast eating our thin chicken cutlets, listening to jazz. Okay, Josh, I'm going to keep this really easy. It's just meatloaf. We're listening to meatloaf. We're eating meatloaf. And I'm dining with the legend himself. Meatloaf. It's gonna be a meatloaf extravaganza. You can come. Me, you and meatloaf, eating meatloaf, listening to meatloaf and dining with meatloaf. Meatloaf three ways. That's my dream.
Josh Peck
That's meatloaf three ways. That's so good.
Ben Soffer
Neat. Love, three ways. All right, folks. What are you, nuts? God, I have a great one. Josh, I can't wait.
Josh Peck
Our what are you nuts? Moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things. What we're mad at, what we're happy with, and everything in between. But it's gotta be good. Ben, start us off.
Ben Soffer
Okay, so yesterday I was at Bloomingdale's. Great sales, okay? Great sales in the home section. We were looking just for some stainless steel pans. We don't have any. We have the beautiful nonstick caraways. Beautiful, fantastic. But we're looking for some stainless steel. All Clad. Because I wanted some. And Josh, I went and bought All Clad. Yes, I did.
Josh Peck
Yeah, I know. I went to shop online. You know that? I don't know.
Ben Soffer
No, I went to shop All Clad, okay? And I want to be clear. This is not a unique problem to All Clad. This is a unique problem to anything sold in a set. So I'm going to say my. What are you nuts about All Clad? Even though I bought it and I love it, but this is a Whittier nuts about the category, okay? I went. Josh, to buy the set. Okay? I'm buying a seven piece set. That's how it's advertised. There are five piece sets, seven piece sets and ten piece sets, okay? This is coming with a saute pan, maybe a nice pasta bowl, the stainless steel big pot, et cetera. Of the seven piece set, Josh, you know how many actually piece. Do you know how many pieces you actually get?
Josh Peck
4. Cause the lids.
Ben Soffer
Yes. What are you, nuts? A lid isn't a piece. This is mayhem. I'm getting a seven piece set. Four pieces. Three are lids. This is insanity. Insanity. That is a four piece set with lids, not a seven piece set. What are you, nuts?
Josh Peck
Good for you.
Ben Soffer
Terrible.
Josh Peck
Word up.
Ben Soffer
But I bought him. Amazing. I can't wait. Ooh, I can't wait. All Clad.
Josh Peck
My. What are you, nuts? Is raw milk enough? Okay, listen to me. I'm talking to you, Lauren and Michael Bostic. No, my bosses. They just found bird flu in the raw milk. This is. We. We created ultra pasteurization. Ultra pasteurization. That's a little nuts. It's like good till 2026, but, like normal pasteurization, that makes it good for a couple of weeks. Science is good. It's just quick boiling. What are you, nuts? You could get bird flu from the raw milk, and it's debatable whether or not you're getting any more nutrients from said raw milk. I know it's popular. I know the Robert Kennedy loves the drink. I've got my raw milk. Not for any. What are you nuts?
Ben Soffer
I'm with you. Nuts. That's too much. Too much. Pasteurization is good. Cleaning is good. Get a net. You don't. You want to not get a net and not take out any of the flies? You're just going to choke on a fly. No good. I'm with you.
Josh Peck
Thank you. Ben, take us home.
Ben Soffer
I'm with you. Folks. If this episode isn't 5 stars, what are you, nuts? Listen to us on apple. Oh, by the way, the way you don't subscribe on Apple. I just figured this out two years in. You follow us on Apple. Okay? So follow us on Apple. Subscribe on Spotify. Subscribe at Josh's YouTube. Watch us on YouTube. We're great on YouTube. Watch our clips on TikTok and Instagram. Follow us on both of those platforms Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We'll see you next time.
Josh Peck
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Podcast Summary: Good Guys - "Our Dream Dinner Dates!"
Release Date: December 5, 2024
Hosted by actor and writer Josh Peck alongside entrepreneur and social media icon Ben Soffer, the "Good Guys" podcast delves into a variety of engaging topics with humor and insightful commentary. In the episode titled "Our Dream Dinner Dates!", released on December 5, 2024, Josh and Ben explore everything from movie critiques to personal anecdotes about celebrity talents, dining preferences, and more. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key discussions, notable quotes, and the overall flow of the conversation.
Timestamps: 00:15 – 05:25
Josh Peck opens the episode by discussing his and Ben’s recent experiences watching the movies "Wicked" and "Barbie." Ben expresses profound admiration for "Wicked," describing it as "the movie of his lifetime" and contrasting it sharply with his dislike for "Barbie."
Ben Soffer (00:35): “This was the movie of my lifetime. I've never, ever, ever had a more transformational experience.”
Josh Peck (01:11): “Preach on it, brother.”
Ben highlights the marketing budgets of both films—$150 million for "Barbie" and $160 million for "Wicked"—and argues that while "Barbie" was overly pushed, "Wicked" delivered a compelling message without being forced.
Josh praises the discussion, adding thoughts about the board composition of Mattel, the company behind Barbie, and its impact on the film's social commentary.
Timestamps: 09:20 – 12:56
The conversation shifts to the impressive talents of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. Josh shares personal anecdotes about Ariana, including a story from his wife about Ariana's dedication to her singing.
Ben acknowledges Ariana's massive following, citing her 380 million Instagram followers, and praises Cynthia Erivo's performance in "Wicked."
Josh adds his admiration for Ariana, emphasizing her vocal prowess and star quality.
Timestamps: 20:01 – 23:42
Josh introduces humorous segments about unconventional excuses for relationship hiccups, segueing into a discussion about the top fast-food restaurants for first dates. According to a survey by DatingNews.com, Chick-fil-A emerged as the favorite spot, chosen by over 16% of daters.
Ben criticizes the choice of Chick-fil-A for first dates, arguing that establishments with waitstaff like Applebee’s or Chili’s are more appropriate.
Josh counters by suggesting alternative venues like Starbucks for their ambiance and cost-effectiveness.
Timestamps: 23:42 – 27:47
The hosts delve into their experiences with Starbucks’ mobile ordering system. Ben praises the convenience but expresses concern over the workload it places on baristas, urging listeners to tip generously.
Josh shares his personal tipping habits, emphasizing the importance of supporting hardworking staff.
They also discuss the Starbucks rewards program, with Ben revealing his impressive accumulation of 1,400 stars, though he admits he rarely cashes them in.
Timestamps: 27:47 – 29:26
A brief discussion about Lizzo’s recent weight loss sparks a conversation about how angles in photography can dramatically alter appearances. Olivia adds insight into how posed versus unposed photos can create significant differences in perceived weight.
Josh and Ben commend Lizzo’s appearance changes while maintaining respect for her.
Timestamps: 39:03 – 43:31
The hosts discuss Jay Leno’s recent accident, where he reportedly fell at a Hampton Inn, leading to speculations about the cause. While Josh shares factual information about Leno’s career and recent activities, Ben humorously theorizes various reasons behind the mishap.
Josh provides context about Leno’s dedication to his craft, noting his continuous performances despite his age.
Both agree that Jay Leno remains a resilient and dedicated figure in entertainment.
Timestamps: 45:15 – 48:42
The episode features a listener message from Kelsey, inquiring about the hosts' ideas for a perfect dinner party, inspired by Ina Garten's insights. Josh and Ben share their contrasting visions:
Josh Peck (46:31):
Ben Soffer (46:31):
Their playful disparity highlights their unique personalities and preferences, adding humor and warmth to the segment.
Timestamps: 48:48 – 51:47
In the weekly segment "What Are You Nuts?", Josh and Ben air their frustrations with everyday products and practices:
Despite the frustration, Ben expresses enthusiasm for his All Clad purchase.
Ben Soffer (50:27): “Amazing. I can't wait. Ooh, I can't wait. All Clad.”
Raw Milk Debate:
Both hosts agree on the importance of pasteurization and maintaining cleanliness, dismissing the raw milk craze as unnecessary and risky.
The "Our Dream Dinner Dates!" episode of the "Good Guys" podcast blends humor, personal stories, and candid discussions on a range of topics. From dissecting movie quality and celebrity talents to sharing personal dining preferences and airing everyday frustrations, Josh Peck and Ben Soffer create an engaging and relatable listening experience. Their dynamic interaction, peppered with notable quotes and humorous exchanges, offers listeners both entertainment and thoughtful insights.
Notable Quotes:
Ben Soffer (01:55): “Wicked was so fucking good. And it was the exact message that I think Barbie was trying to convey without shoving it down our throats.”
Josh Peck (09:31): “His voice is a generational talent, like a gift from God.”
Ben Soffer (24:52): “These people, they're working overtime. So all I gotta say, I hope that you're tipping your baristas.”
Josh Peck (46:31): “The drink would be some sort of mule... a delicious mint mojito spritzer.”
Ben Soffer (50:05): “A four piece set with lids, not a seven piece set. What are you, nuts?”
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, ensuring that both regular listeners and newcomers can grasp the key discussions and enjoy the vibrant chemistry between Josh and Ben.