Pope-Mobiles and Player Haters

Summary

Good Guys Podcast Episode Summary: "Pope-Mobiles and Player Haters"

Released on May 5, 2025

In this engaging episode of the "Good Guys" podcast, hosts Josh Peck and Ben Soffer dive into a variety of topics ranging from personal experiences during Easter, reflections on the passing of Pope Francis, listener Q&A sessions addressing career and personal life dilemmas, to lighthearted gripes they affectionately term "Woody Nuts." The dynamic duo balances humor with insightful commentary, making the episode both entertaining and thought-provoking.

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Easter Traditions and Personal Experiences

Timestamp: 15:23 - 24:29

Josh and Ben kick off the episode by reminiscing about Easter traditions. Josh shares his experience attending an Easter celebration at his brother-in-law's house, highlighting the joy of crafting and exchanging beautifully filled Easter baskets. "The kids are like overflowing with great little five and ten dollar tchotchkes," Josh notes (34:52), emphasizing the simple pleasures of family gatherings.

They delve into the origins of Easter festivities, discussing the symbolic meanings of eggs and rabbits. Josh explains, "The origins of Easter eggs and the Easter bunny are a blend of pagan and Christian tradition. Eggs and rabbits have long been symbolic of fertility and new life," (24:10), providing listeners with historical context behind these enduring symbols.

Ben adds a humorous twist by questioning the practicality of rabbits associating with eggs, suggesting, "It would make more sense if maybe it was an Easter duck" (23:59). The conversation evolves into a discussion about the commercialization of Easter traditions and their meaningfulness in modern celebrations.

The Death of Pope Francis and The Popemobile

Timestamp: 22:35 - 33:01

The hosts shift gears to address the recent passing of Pope Francis, exploring his legacy and the symbolic Popemobile. Josh reflects on the Pope's progressive stance, stating, "I give him a lot of respect for being, from what I understand, a very progressive Pope" (30:42). They discuss the unique features of the Popemobile, with Ben humorously speculating, "What would you have in your Popemobile? Heated and cooled seats? A massage chair?" (37:39).

The conversation turns contemplative as they ponder the intersection of tradition and modernity, imagining Pope Francis enjoying a luxurious ride in the Popemobile. Josh muses, "Pope Francis with his lentil soup, taking a shot of creatine. It would be anti," (32:33), blending reverence with playful banter.

Listener Stories and Advice

Timestamp: 52:39 - 60:22

Career Advice for a Single Mom

A listener named V reaches out for guidance after being let go from a restaurant job unfairly. Ben advises, "I don't think that you should be loyal to these people... you're an employee," (54:02), emphasizing the importance of seeking fair compensation. Josh suggests exploring side hustles like OnlyFans to supplement income, adding, "Only fans. The ultimate side hustle" (55:33).

Josh further encourages leveraging technology and exploring corporate management roles with growth potential, ensuring that loyalty doesn't come at the expense of personal well-being.

Vasectomy Reversal Dilemma

Another listener, Haley, presents a personal dilemma regarding her husband's vasectomy and the consideration of reversing it to accommodate a fourth child. Ben questions the fear associated with reversal procedures, while Josh humorously breaks down the process, "They're just removing a little piping... you have to reattach pipe," (58:37).

The discussion highlights the emotional and practical aspects of such decisions, offering balanced perspectives on family planning and personal choices.

Woody Nuts: Gripes of the Week

Timestamp: 60:22 - End

Ben's Obsession with Dates

Ben shares his newfound love for Medjool dates, defending them against societal pressures to process or flavor them excessively. "Just enjoy this beautiful... it's a nut. I don't even know how you describe a date, but enjoy nature's candy," he declares (60:54). Josh humorously concedes, "Okay, fair enough. Dates are delicious," (61:39), highlighting the friendly banter between the hosts.

WrestleMania’s Scripted Nature

Josh recounts his recent experience attending WrestleMania in Las Vegas, expressing frustration over its scripted outcomes. "Yeah, except this one. This sport is scripted," he states (62:20). Ben adds to the critique, "The post game should be with the writers... What are you nuts?" (62:58), underscoring their disbelief in the authenticity of such events.

They humorously debate the merits of wrestling as entertainment versus genuine sports, reflecting on the blurred lines between performance and competition.

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Notable Quotes

• Josh Peck: "The origins of Easter eggs and the Easter bunny are a blend of pagan and Christian tradition. Eggs and rabbits have long been symbolic of fertility and new life." (24:10)

• Ben Soffer: "Just enjoy this beautiful... it's a nut. I don't even know how you describe a date, but enjoy nature's candy." (60:54)

• Josh Peck: "Yeah, except this one. This sport is scripted." (62:20)

• Ben Soffer: "The post game should be with the writers... What are you nuts?" (62:58)

Conclusion

In "Pope-Mobiles and Player Haters," Josh and Ben offer a blend of heartfelt advice, cultural commentary, and humorous take-downs of modern quirks. Their ability to navigate serious topics like the passing of a religious leader alongside lighthearted discussions about dates and wrestling illustrates the podcast's versatility and appeal. Listeners can expect a balanced mix of wisdom and wit, making "Good Guys" a must-listen for those seeking both entertainment and thoughtful conversation.

Transcript

[Josh]

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[Ben]

Two Jews, both big and tall.

[Josh]

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[Ben]

Make it your weekly routine.

[Josh]

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[Ben]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Yeah. We're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys.

[Ben]

We're just the good of the good of the good guys.

[Josh]

Look at those calves. Look at those ankles. It's short season, baby.

[Ben]

It's short season. We're looking at 77 degrees, Josh, in New York City and 87 degrees in this studio. I'm smoking hot. It's so warm. Windows open. That said, Josh, I'm just so happy to be here with you on this fine, gorgeous day. You're looking svelte as ever.

[Josh]

Really? Thanks.

[Ben]

Yeah, I think it's the all black. But I'll still give you credit. I'll still give you credit.

[Josh]

No, I mean, listen, I'm trying. I'm on a journey and where that journey takes me, who knows? But every day I wake up at around 5.45am, I roll out of bed, I curse my children because they've awoken me, and I look in the mirror and I bite my bottom lip as such. And I look at myself in my Nordstrom Rack Calvin Klein underwear and I say, not bad, Josh. Not bad.

[Ben]

It's hot. It's hot.

[Josh]

I know it is.

[Ben]

It's hot. So talk to me about Nordstrom Rack Calvin Klein underwear. Are we buying it with holes? Are we finding that it is ill fitting? Like what? Exactly? There's something wrong with it. It's obviously a manufacturer's defect. So I'm just curious, have you seen. Do you know what's wrong with it? Is it pre worn?

[Josh]

First of all, you're a manufacturer's defect. Right now. Your attitude is a defect. Don't put that negativity on my Nordstrom rack, okay? On my nr. All right.

[Ben]

All I know is that I went to Nordstrom Rack, I think in California.

[Josh]

You did right by my house because you forgot your. Your luggage, everything.

[Ben]

I forgot everything.

[Josh]

It's the most Ben thing ever. Oh, I just imagine Ben at the carousel. Like, wait, where's Min?

[Ben]

And I remember I went to Nordstrom Rack and I bought this like nice long sleeve waffle shirt. But Josh, this was tight on the hips. It was a manufacturer's defect. So I ask again, what's wrong with the underwear?

[Josh]

Okay, so these Calvin Klein's, they come in two. And I figured out why I can get the kind that I like, which is the perfect modal. I think it's a.90% cotton, 8% elastin, 2%. Your guess is as good as mine. And it's the colors. They don't come in black. They only come in. This is what I.

[Ben]

What? This is a wedding of nuts. What color is your underwear?

[Josh]

I have to do some searching. So there are. There are. There is the sky blue.

[Ben]

Red.

[Josh]

I don't do those.

[Ben]

Whoa.

[Josh]

I draw the line.

[Ben]

Whoa.

[Josh]

Red underwear? Are you kidding me? Am I cheating on my wife? That's not.

[Ben]

No, no. Red underwear is for a very, very. It's honestly for sadists. Like that's what it is. It's insane. Red underwear is insane.

[Josh]

It's insane. But they have a pair that are. One pair is gray and the other pair is a navy blue. And those. That's what I get.

[Ben]

Navy blue completely works.

[Josh]

I agree.

[Ben]

Completely works. I don't like gray. This for the same reasons that I don't like white. I don't want to see it. I get it. It's happening. I don't need to see it. I don't need to take off my underwear and see sweat from the day. That's yucky. I take off my nice black or a navy blue. No problem at all.

[Josh]

Josh.

[Ben]

This does have me thinking though. The next time you see a sail, maybe it's on that fire engine red. Bring it home. Dye it black.

[Josh]

That's an idea. I can't say no to a sale. I'm sail crazy. Last night I was dumpster diving at my local supermarke. For sale items, they keep it in the back near the bathrooms. I got three packs of seltzer water. Pellegrino seltzer water, half off.

[Ben]

Lovely. Lovely.

[Josh]

I got our friend of the show, even though he doesn't know it. Logan Paul's prime powder. Because I like to add it for a little coconut watery taste in my workout water when I'm not doing Element Baruch Hashem. And. Yeah. And then I almost bought diapers, but I drew the line.

[Ben]

So I have a question. When you're shopping in the sale item of a grocery store, you're checking expiration dates, Right?

[Josh]

Got. You have to. Because then you might have played yourself.

[Ben]

You might have played yourself. Yeah. You've just bought that prime half off. But it's going to take half off your life. So I don't. I don't know if saving the seven bucks is worth it. Like the sale items. I love a Pellegrino sale that's unheard of. This stuff could, could last an entire war, right? No problem.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

But I don't, but, but I don't know. Like, you're not buying discounted milk. You're not buying any discounted perishables, right?

[Josh]

No. In the dairy department, there are some discounted items, but they tend to be seasonal.

[Ben]

You're like, it's complicated.

[Josh]

Hear me out.

[Ben]

My relationship with discounted dairy is complicated.

[Josh]

For many years before I started to become flush with fine from social media, I only bought sneakers from something called Joe's New Balance Discount Warehouse.

[Ben]

Wow. Is that a website? Is that like an East Bay? Do you remember East Bay?

[Josh]

Oh, bro, the East Bay catalog.

[Ben]

The sickest bay was sick. You don't know ill until you know East Bay. That's where I got my Latrell Spreewells with the wheel on East Bay.

[Josh]

That was sick.

[Ben]

So cool.

[Josh]

And it was a hearty catalog. It was a thick catalog.

[Ben]

It was gorgeous. It was absolutely gorgeous. I'm just saying something died when we lost East Bay. Like, I don't know, I just, like, I want to peruse, I want to see, I want to flip through a hard binder and pick out my shoes.

[Josh]

I think Amazon does this now. But it used to be, remember during the holidays you would get the Toys R Us catalog, like of all the, the sort of holiday toys, and you'd circle and you'd be like, I want all these. And your mom would be like, we're broke. And I'd be like, that's a you problem.

[Ben]

Yeah, we're just like missing a lot of that physical. Right, Josh? Like, I miss just we. We're so. Everything is so easy. Add to cart is so easy. All of this stuff. I love Amazon. Big Amazon guy, no question. If I can shop it, I'm gonna shop it on Amazon. That said, it would be nice to just, I don't know, be able to try things on. Retail's dying. It's all dying, Josh. We're moving towards AI showing us what we'd look like in a shirt. And I just don't like it. I don't like it.

[Josh]

Yes. My boy, Stevie Mac, Shout out Stevie. I think he would. He wouldn't mind me saying that. He is a robust 60 year old man. He's beautifully proportioned. And he told me he's an actor, comedian, very talented guy. And he said, listen, I got a gig with Walmart. I said, yeah, boy, what are we doing? He goes, I'm going into their, I don't know, their studio. And they're just gonna take pictures of me in a bunch of different clothes. And then I'm gonna be the AI example for, like, you know, slightly portly cuties. And I was like, I hope they're paying you a million dollars, because they're basically never gonna need you again.

[Ben]

Yeah. Ever. Ever. Once they've scanned you, you're done. We're done. That's it. No more crazy. I don't know if we're ready for the AI conversation. It's too scary. It scares the shit out of me. Like, these scammers, it was honestly going to be my. What are you nuts? It's not AI, but these scammers. These scammers are out of control. I'll do it. I'll do a second. What do you. Nuts. Later, Josh. I got a text today.

[Josh]

Tell me.

[Ben]

I got a text saying, your Apple. Your credit card was used on Apple Pay at the Apple Store. Call us to confirm it was you. And of course, I'm thinking to myself, oh, there's fraud. And then I realize, this didn't come from Chase. This came from a random number. This can't be true. I checked my credit cards, whatever, and it wasn't there. That message going to my dad, he's giving them his Social Security number, right? Like. Like 1,000%. And these scammers, they're too sophisticated. It used to be like, hi, I'm. I'm. I'm Kumar in. In Washington, D.C. and I need you to pay me $200 to make sure that your name doesn't show up on this list. Now it's. There's an Apple Pay charge at the Apple Store on your Apple Watch. It's, like, so specific, right? And so just, like, they know us and they know what could be true. And this is my fear with AI, that the same thing is going to happen, bringing it full circle that you're going to get. They could do a ransom video. Josh. You get a ransom video. Your mother is now AI'd. She's being held hostage by pirates in the Bahamas, and if you don't send them 200 grand, they're going to throw her off the ship. Was it really her? No. Do you. Are you sure? Like, is it worth. Is it worth calling her and wasting time in case it's her? It's so scary. It's so scary. Yes, that's an extreme example of your mother being held captive in the Bahamas via pirates. But this is the. This is AI. It's very scary.

[Josh]

I told my mother, in the age of AI, there's a chance that someone, I mean, God knows from this podcast, you could copy my voice easily. Easily, right? I said, there's a chance that someone could call you one day sounding like me, asking you for X amount of money, because, whatever, I'm in trouble. I need to get bailed out of jail. I was like, so we need to have a code word so that you'll know that it's really me. And she said, don't worry, they're not getting anything by me. Barbara, the bank is secure now. Excuse me, I have my friend, the president of Nigeria on the other line.

[Ben]

I'll call you back.

[Josh]

I'm like, mom, no, it's bad, dude, it's bad.

[Ben]

It's bad. No, it's real and it's bad. I know I've told you the story about my dad getting cast for a food show. Like, dad, there's no tape on you. How. How are you being cast? There's nothing public on you. You're not going to stop hating on me, Benjamin. You're not going to be in the next season.

[Josh]

You're a player hater. You're a player hater, Benjamin. I love my dad.

[Ben]

My dad is Shaq.

[Josh]

Why can't you be happy for me? Benjamin. Benjamin, did you see last night?

[Ben]

Speaking of Shaq, there's no shame in my game.

[Josh]

Benjamin. Sorry.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

I need you to tell me what it's giving. Listen with I need help you ain't gotta worry cause girl I'm here? I tell you what it's giving I.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

That's called fuck you, money.

[Ben]

He abruptly leaves, like with stomach pains and comes back. Unbelievable.

[Josh]

Good. He's accomplished too much to sit anywhere with bubble guts.

[Ben]

Shaq is so unbelievably rich. He's so successful. He was so smart. Like the playbook on how to take your money and 10x it over a lifetime. Whoever set Shaq up, maybe it was Shaq. I think I just read he owns like 400 different types of franchises. Or he owns five different types of franchises, but 400 of them. Like 100 wingstops, 100 KFCs. The guy is a genius.

[Josh]

So smart. What if you could own any franchise? What franchise would you own? Olivia, feel free to jump in here.

[Ben]

It's a really good question. I think right now I would own Jersey Mike's. I think the Jersey Mike's is the sub above and Subway. Really? They're never going to. They're never going to sponsor us. Okay, let's just call a spade a spade. They're dying. They're one legged. They're on their last leg. I walk into Subway, I think I'm going to get mugged. But like, I don't know what's. I don't know what's going on with their tuna. Is their tuna real? Is there tuna dog? Subway's gone. There's no competitors to Jersey Mike's. Josh. What? Firehouse subs? What Quiznos? There's nothing. So Jersey Mike's, you put it in a beautiful, beautiful location. The Jersey Mike's on the Upper east side. Josh would kill. I'm all in.

[Josh]

I understand your love and appreciation of New Jersey Michaels, but let me ask you this. Isn't it replicating a New York east coast sub that you can get in most places in the city?

[Ben]

Why would you go there in bodegas? For sure. You're absolutely right. I would never open my Jersey mics in Manhattan. A thousand percent.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

But I would open my Jersey Mike's somewhere that didn't have access to premium sandwiches on every corner for half the price via the bodega.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

So I'm happy that we chatted this through before I. Before I started building, before I broke ground. What would be your franchise?

[Josh]

Okay. It's hard, right, because you could do the half Pizza Hut, half Baskin Robbins just for the clientele. You know, you're going to get some fun, fun, fun, fun people in there.

[Ben]

Oh, I love it. I completely forgot about the people. Those stores, when you walk in and it's 50% Baskin Robbins and 50% Dunkin Donuts. Unbelievable. That is like shared real estate is under, underappreciated and underutilized. Continue.

[Josh]

Although I do think having a chain gas station would be fun. Like a Wawa gas Station or a Buc EE's. Could you imagine if you owned a Buc EE's?

[Ben]

Especially because you get free gas.

[Josh]

Sick. Really sick. And then you can take out with truckers and prostitutes.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They're your. They're your boys.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

Joshi Prostitute. That's your new name.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben]

King of the hoes.

[Josh]

Lot lizards. That's what they call them. What would you have, Olivia?

[Olivia]

I was just thinking about it, and I think in a similar vein, I'm going to go with a Waffle house franchise. Open 24 hours. The clientele is a wide range. You've got people pulling off the highway on a road trip. You've got truckers, you've got kids after, like, homecoming going there for a bite. That's what I did, at least, because I didn't get invited to parties. But yeah, Waffle House all the way. And it's utilized as a determining factor of natural disasters in the U.S. if a waffle House is open or closed. So I'd be in with the National Weather Service.

[Ben]

Wow. So it's owned by Jews. Who knew?

[Josh]

Yep.

[Ben]

Not me. I didn't know I could see that. News to me. News to me.

[Josh]

Just in my experience, if I see like a lovely Southeast Asian owner of said franchise, I'm in. I know the quality, the Cleanliness and just the overall heart that's gonna get put into my meal is gonna be top tier, through the roof. Right.

[Ben]

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely. Absolutely. 1000%.

[Josh]

Shout out.

[Ben]

Shout out to the Southeast Asian community of franchisees. Gorgeous people. Okay. Absolutely. Shout out. Josh, I asked you recently if we could record on Monday. You said. Ben, what are you nuts? It's Easter. I always thought that Easter Sunday was a thing. You're telling me. We also have a Monday and we also have a Good Friday. This is a long weekend. And then after you answer that question, I would love to know, how was. How was the hunting? Did Max and Shai go find eggs? What did we do on Easter? How was it?

[Josh]

Tell me this. And Olivia, weigh in here. I might have been a little meshuggah saying that. Except when there is a Sunday holiday, when a federal holiday falls on a Sunday, which Easter is a federal holiday, it's a bank holiday. Right. Then they tend to honor it the next day. Now, I have been beaten up by these agencies, these Hollywood agencies that they take off. Oh, my God. Any bank. I'm like, really? You took off President's Day?

[Ben]

Like, no.

[Josh]

What? You know, you represent, you know, Joel McHale. Like, you need a break. You're not exactly at the teller nine hours a day, but I think most places were open yesterday. Was dear Media open, Olivia?

[Olivia]

Yeah, we were open yesterday.

[Josh]

However, sorry, Ben, apologies.

[Ben]

That's fine. This is a wonderful time to record. I was just curious. You're like, ben, what are you nuts? Recording on Easter? I'm like, I thought Easter was on Sunday. Like, I. I'm trying to be respectful.

[Olivia]

We did have Friday off. We had Good Friday. Other places had yesterday off. I don't know where the line was.

[Josh]

And schools were. Were closed, so I probably should have just said, max is home, so it'd be easier to do it the next day.

[Ben]

So walk me through Easter, though. And, Olivia, I want to know what you did as well. Just talk to me about Easter. Let's start on Good Friday. We're eating a ton of. What? Like what. What happens then throughout the weekend?

[Josh]

What does. Ha. I don't know what happens on Good Friday.

[Olivia]

I grew up Christian, so we didn't, like, do as much of the, like, not Catholic, like, the fish fry stuff. So it was more just like, you go to church on Sunday. You celebrate the fact that he's risen. He died for your sins. You do, like, a nice Easter luncheon if there are kids around. You do the Easter egg hunt. Somebody dresses up as a Bunny rabbit. It's a nice day outside, you know?

[Ben]

And where do the eggs and rabbits come from?

[Olivia]

I have no idea.

[Josh]

What should we check?

[Ben]

Yeah, I would love. I would love to just know, like, where does the Easter egg hunt come from? This is a beautiful. By the way, this is a beautiful tradition. Okay. I think it's lovely. I love the Easter eggs, even though RFK is coming for our dyes, so we're going to have to use beets, even though he's coming for our dyes. But we have our Easter egg hunt, the Easter bunny. I don't understand where the rabbit comes from, and I don't understand the association between the rabbit ra. Lay eggs like this. Would make more sense if maybe it was an Easter duck. Josh. And you were hunting for the duck's eggs. Right. What is the correlation between the bunny and the egg?

[Olivia]

I'm not finding a correlation for the bunny and the egg at the moment, but I did just find that Easter egg hunts themselves originate from Germany. And it's suspected that the Protestant reformer Martin Luther organized egg hunts for his congregation. Supposedly, that's the first one.

[Josh]

Unta, we're going to find the egg over there, finds a little egg and break it open. See what little surprise I having.

[Ben]

Oh, I love a kinder egg. What's more delicious? What's more delicious than that? You open it up, you get a little toy that you throw away, and you eat all the chocolate.

[Josh]

Una, Gustav, I have a couple jelly beans. Uncle Martin want to eat with you. Oh, boy.

[Ben]

And Uncle Martin's now in prison. What? And what. What about the bunny? Like, what's the deal?

[Josh]

It says, the origins of Easter eggs and the Easter bunny are a blend of pagan and Christian tradition. Eggs and hairs have long been symbolic of fertility and new life. And these symbols became associated with the Christian holiday of Easter.

[Ben]

Got it. And Easter is the welcoming of spring.

[Josh]

No, it's the resurrection.

[Ben]

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Next time, later, go look on Trump's Instagram and look at, they did a picture and then there's a bunny. This is a scary big rabbit in a rabbit suit. I didn't like it at all. And then the Pope died. And then the Pope died right after he met J.D. vance. What do you think about that?

[Josh]

I mean, you know, Trump never ceases to impress, but I love that even on one of the highest holy days, he writes out a truth social post that said happy Easter even to the left wing lunatics. He never misses a moment.

[Ben]

It's it's so good. It's just pure comedy. But the Pope, rest in peace. I just found out. You know his name. Maybe this is just me being completely ill informed. I did not know that his actual name was not Francis. He just picked that, right?

[Josh]

Remember his name.

[Ben]

His name is not.

[Josh]

Didn't you watch Conclave?

[Ben]

Conclave. Conclave, yes. But I didn't put two and two together until now. Yeah, he just picked Francis also. What are the odds? A movie like Conclave comes out, everybody gets educated on the process, and then Pope Francis passes away. May his memory be a blessing. Sayonara. What do you know? What do you know?

[Josh]

Unbelievable. I give him a lot of respect for being, from what I understand, a very progressive Pope. And overall, just like a cutie patootie.

[Ben]

It seems that way. He died in a. In a rather robust form, which I can appreciate, and he became one of us. You know, like, I think, like, towards the end, he was just like, yeah, just give it all to me. I'll eat all the Easter eggs. I'll eat the rabbit. I'll take all the rabbit.

[Josh]

Yeah. Pope's like, that's. I feel like the overly religious. I've heard this. I don't know if Ari Shafir talked about this, but with like, you know, when you're ultra, ultra Orthodox, you know, I guess, like, what's the heredities? And there's another one that, let's just say, like Hasidics. Hasidics, but not like Lubovitch, like heredity. Or there's an. One more. Soft, softer. Sotmer Sotomayor.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Extremely extreme.

[Ben]

Extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme, extreme.

[Josh]

As far to the end as. As you can get. Which in theory you could say that's. If you're a Pope, it's as religious as one could get. Sure. That they start to look at exercise almost like it's a deviation from God or, like, as a waste of energy because you could be studying Torah or, or, you know, whatever the Catholic equivalent is to that. It just. I never see an ultra religious person in great shape.

[Ben]

It's funny, I think that they're. They just stick out like a sore thumb. The ones that aren't. But there's nothing, there's nothing in the Torah that says that, like, honestly, you should be in great shape. Like, there are plenty of, like, religious people that are in great shape. But I will say that the. The Chassids that have some junk in the trunk definitely stand out. So it's probably why. Like. Yeah, but like, I would hope that the Pope would. Exercise needs longevity. But yeah, that is interesting thinking about the Pope waking up in the morning getting gains, like.

[Josh]

Right. Or having a walking pad.

[Ben]

Pope just like on his back benching 320, like that would be a little anti Pope.

[Josh]

Right? Pope Francis with his lentil soup, taking a shot of creatine.

[Ben]

It would be anti. And now that I'm thinking about your comment, I also agree, the more religious you are, I guess that your obsession with your own body and the way that it looks would be a little bit anti God. Right. But taking care of yourself would be in the image of God, you know? I don't know. I don't know, Josh.

[Josh]

I mean, you only, you only hear about this in the negative, but when you hear about people who grew up ultra, you know, the most extreme cases of orthodoxy that like, they get to a certain age, 9, 10 years old, where like many of the equivalent academic classes you would take in a secular school are removed because they're like, you don't even need to know all that. You just need to know religious text. Right?

[Ben]

Yeah. And then they end up getting a job within the family business. And you know what I mean? Like, it's just a different life. Like, it's just a completely different life.

[Josh]

Well, should we get to some stories? Oh, I didn't really tell you Easter was great.

[Ben]

Yeah, tell me about Easter. Tell me about Easter.

[Josh]

You know, all of the major. There's really, if you think about it, us Jews, we got plenty of holidays. And the Catholics, really, I mean, or the Christians, it's really Easter and, and Christmas, I mean, these are the marquees. And it's just so lovely when people do it right. And they sort of get down to what the holiday is all about, which is just basically like eating, being thankful and being around family. So we went to my wonderful brother in law's family's house, shout out Will and his beautiful family. And I didn't even, I'm so Jewish, I didn't even think about an Easter egg hunt. I said, so we'll eat and then we'll go like. And then all of a sudden, one by one, my wonderful mother in law, Will's aunt, his mother, they've made these beautiful Easter baskets. My wife made beautiful ones for the kids. And so the kids are like overflowing with like, you know, they're all filled with like great little five and ten dollar tchotchkes. And then they do this Easter egg hunt. It's unbelievable. They're getting Reese's, they're getting Kit Katsu, they're getting cold hard cash. This was very fun.

[Ben]

So fun. I think of when I think of Easter, I also think of a hunt. Do people go hunting on Easter? Like maybe a nice duck hunt? I'm sure that's difficult in Southern California, but in general, I would envision, you know, you take out the hound, you go hunt your duck.

[Josh]

Well, you can't bring it. You wouldn't hunt duck because the duck season ends at the end of January.

[Ben]

See, this is migration that I need. This is the information that I needed.

[Josh]

But so quail, maybe other small fowl.

[Ben]

Understood? Okay. Yes. Another. Another small fowl species. Yes.

[Josh]

Quail, pigeon.

[Ben]

Yes. Where are the ducks migrating to, Josh? Because perhaps we could hunt them on their way, find out their route and hunt them on the fly.

[Josh]

Yes. Poison them. They're going north.

[Ben]

Yes. Okay, so we'll go. We're going to do this duck hunt in Canada.

[Josh]

I'd love to. Please.

[Ben]

Yes. I'm just saying I'm organizing next Easter, Easter Sunday. I'm organizing a beautiful duck hunt. We're going to do it in Quebec. We're all going to wear nice outfits and it will be excellent.

[Josh]

Listen, you, me, a shotgun, a St. Bernard in Regina. Fucking count me in, brother.

[Ben]

I'm so in. I'm so in in Newfoundland. And maybe we can get somebody to like, do something cute on Etsy for our rifles. Like maybe like a cute, cute. Like a cute, cute Easter themed rifle.

[Josh]

Pastel. Pastel blue. We go dressed in the dumb and dumber suits. Absolute kooks.

[Ben]

Okay, we. I'm looking for a shotgun, but make it cute.

[Josh]

Well, I was. I did pull up a story about the Vatican. Reveals what Pope Francis said before his death. Describes his final hours gesture of farewell. Some of Pope Francis's last words were a heartfelt expression of thanks to his personal health care assistant. The 88 year old pontiff who died Monday from a stroke and subsequent heart failure, grew emotional while expressing his gratitude to a nurse and his caregiver for encouraging him to take one final ride in the Pope Mobile on Easter shortly before his death. Do you think I can manage it? The ailing Pope asked. And then what else did he say? Anything good? Anything good? 50,000. 50,000 faithful were watching him and I guess that's it.

[Ben]

He went in the Pope Mobile the day before he passed. I didn't realize that. Yeah, a man of the people. What's cooler than the Popemobile?

[Josh]

Nothing. You think it has cup holders?

[Ben]

Definitely. Josh. I think this thing has heated and cooled seats. I think this has a massage chair in it. Ooh, this is fun. What would you have in your Popemobile?

[Josh]

Oh, man, I would have a soda gun. Like, ooh, look at the bar.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And then I would have grenadine. And I'm, I'm making sure leaves for the followers, you know, just popping out a Shirley for the sick, a Shirley for the, you know, the wretched.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

How would that be? What would you.

[Ben]

So, so fun. And now all that I can think of from our earlier conversation is, AI. One day, Josh, you're going to think you're seeing the Pope in the Pope mobile, but it's going to be a hologram. Okay? It's going to be a hologram.

[Josh]

How often do you use ChatGPT?

[Ben]

100 times a day.

[Josh]

Really?

[Ben]

ChatGPT has replaced Google for me, right? If I have a question, I ask ChatGPT, and I would normally have asked Google, but, okay, so it's going to show me Google Gemini, which just like shows me less than ChatGPT. Like, ChatGPT is amazing. I will even, I will write, Josh, remember that email you sent me a voice note? You know what I did? I copied the voice notes, the text, I put it into ChatGPT and I said, format this for me into an email.

[Josh]

Oh, boy.

[Ben]

And then what I do is I will edit the email. But it's so much easier to edit an email than to come up with an original thought. I'm using it non stop. Like, it's so, like, you can write, I'll use it for this. I'll write something. Just thoughts that are coming out and I'll write, hey, ChatGPT, can you clean this up for me? I love it. How do you use it at all, or.

[Josh]

No, I do use it and I think it's spectacular. I am careful with. I have a Tesla and so it's so easy when I get in the car to just hit home and then I just go home. Like it's. It's just directed for me. It's on that big screen. So easy. And in general, wherever I'm going, because, like, I don't know, because technology has made me, God forbid I should waste an extra second being in traffic. Even if I'm going two miles away. I put in the address so I can know, is there a street closure? Is something. Is my usual route a little bit more gridlock? Should I go around? And I've been hearing lately that people say you shouldn't do that because you're literally never engaging your brain, like directions, remembering how to get Somewhere is, like, firing neurons and synapses.

[Ben]

Interesting. I mean, those people have way too much time on their hands to get lost. Like, okay, I'm sorry. Sorry, you're not. You shouldn't be villainized for using maps. But I just.

[Josh]

Not all the time.

[Ben]

They say, yeah, if you. If you have a route and you know it, I totally get it. But, like, what if you end up. There's a car crash. Do you think you can go to ChatGPT and say, check all of the various apps and let me know the fastest way home. Check Google Maps, check Waze, check Apple, and find me the best route?

[Josh]

Ooh, I think there's a version. I don't know. I think ChatGPT basically lives in, like, the news cycle and, like, all the information, but I don't know if they're checking active traffic data, but I'm sure there's an app that does that.

[Ben]

Oh, God. So unbelievable. There's so much I throw. I mean, there are very few instances in. In Manhattan, I'll never use gps, but the second I go out of the city, I'm automatically using gps. And I'm always. I will do anything to save a minute. I. I will do. Honestly, if I don't save 10 minutes. Josh, from what Waze told me, if Waze said, I'll be there at 12:20, if I'm not there at 12:10, I'm angry.

[Josh]

Right?

[Ben]

I'm angry.

[Josh]

But Pete Holmes talked about this, and I agree. I think we've mentioned this on the pod. We have.

[Ben]

Yeah, we have.

[Josh]

Which is just like, fuck Waze.

[Ben]

I know.

[Josh]

In the sense of you're ruining people's neighborhood to save 90 seconds for sure.

[Ben]

For that, I totally get it. I use it. I think it's a little bit less, like, at least in the areas that I go, I'm not driving through neighborhoods Ways isn't taking me there. It's either taking me on the Cross island or the Cross Bronx or the Arizona or there are a hundred different ways to get everywhere from the city.

[Josh]

Right?

[Ben]

Like, they're like, you can go through Brooklyn to get to Queens to get to Long island, or you can go through Grand Central to get to Long Island. They're just. Yeah, so we're not going through neighborhoods. But I totally agree. When ways makes you take side streets and almost murder children running through stop signs to save a minute, it's not worth it. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by David. Protein bars. Guys, I am so excited that I am doing ad reads for David, because let me tell you, I found David months ago and I cannot live without them. Okay? I'm always looking because I'm always hungry. You guys know I'm on the GLPs, okay? The GLPs are it. But we get hungry and we need high protein items that don't have sugar. And that is David in a nutshell. Okay, you ready for this? 28 grams of protein only. 150 calories and no grams of sugar. I mean, you can't find a protein bar with better macros than that. And the flavors are absolutely delicious. I love the blueberry. Okay. A friend of mine told me recently about a cinnamon flavor that I'm dying to try. Having gotten it yet. But I'm telling you, if you need protein, if you're looking for an extra protein boost, David is it. David is the least calories for the most protein that you'll find in any bar. More protein and fewer calories help you increase muscle and decrease body fat. Don't you want that? Don't you want to be strong and less fat? Most protein bars are packed with sugar and excess calories. David bars are just different. The next time that you go into your grocery store, pick up a protein bar and look at the back, okay? We're looking for high protein and low sugar. This is high protein and no sugar and almost like 150 calories for 28 grams of protein. It's completely unheard of. They are really that good? They are so unbelievable. They're the best. They're absolutely the best. I have them every single day. They're great for staying full, hitting your protein goals. No added junk. None. Okay? Absolutely none. Comes in iconic gold packaging. Available online and at retailers. It's perfect for keeping in your bag a quick, satisfying snack. Maybe you just had two hours of podcasting. You need a quick snack. The David protein bar, as I mentioned, there are so many delicious flavors. But I love the blueberry. And look, folks, it's endorsed by fitness enthusiasts and professionals like Andrew Huberman, the Hubs. If he's endorsing, you know, it's got to be good. And it helps with muscle maintenance, recovery, and overall health. So, folks, I've been eating David's protein bars. You should be eating David protein bars. David has decided to give my listeners an exclusive offer. Buy four cartons and get the fifth free at davidprotein.com goodguys I'm telling you, you are going to buy. You're going to run through these five boxes. That's David protein.com/good guys to get your fifth carton free. Humans aren't perfect, but David is. This episode of the Good Guys podcast is brought to you by Philadelphia Cream Cheese. If there's anyone that knows creamy, it's me. No, I'm kidding. It's Philadelphia cream cheese. It's extremely versatile and can be used to enhance any meal, snack, or anything in between. Philadelphia makes everything creamier. And I mean everything creamier. A dip delicious. You want a great substitute for creme fraiche with caviar? Yeah, you can use cream cheese. Level yourself up, folks. You want creamier macaroni and cheese? Throw in some cream cheese. Cream cheese is it the ultimate thickener? It's absolutely fantastic. Highly recommend it. So much more than bagels with cream cheese. How basic are you? Think about Philadelphia cream cheese as a thickener to make everything more delicious and creamy. Philadelphia makes everything creamier, so visit cream cheese.com I will never get over that URL. I'm sorry, cream cheese dot com. How cool are they? I just went to cream cheese dot com and folks, the inspo is there. The inspo for your next meal. Is there desserts? We didn't even talk about desserts. How about a three step cheesecake? How about chocolate cookie? No baked cheesecakes? What about a chocolate pomegranate cheesecake Mini Or a New York style sour cream top cheesecake? The recipe inspo is endless. Philadelphia cream cheese belongs in your desserts. And why not use the king of cream cheese Philadelphia, huh? They also have whipped cream cheese. How delicious. And Aries whipped cream cheese. So delicious. Get their whipped products. Get all of their products. Philadelphia cream cheese, the undisputed king of cream cheese. Everything is creamier with Philadelphia. Visit cream cheese.com for recipe inspiration. And so you can start adding Philadelphia to your recipes at home. Let's visit cream cheese.com well did you.

[Josh]

Know that famed NYC restaurant grilled over thirty dollar sandwich really overrated. The venerated New York City institution Katz Delicatessen was spit roasted online over its $30 sandwich, which viewers labeled diabolical and a waste of money. Katz's is one of the oldest delis in New York. It's obviously, you know, become very, very popular on on the socials. And the backlash came in response to an ex post that began in praise of the Lower east side pastrami purveyor. The Sandwich, sold for $27 in New York, is famous for its generous amount of ingredients, which is rye bread and pastrami.

[Ben]

I mean, this is Ashanda. I don't know who wrote this review, but they must have not had. This is, this is an amazing sandwich. And honestly, when you think about pastrami, Josh, pastrami is a beautiful piece of meat that was prepped and stored and soaked and baked. And there's a big, it's, there's a lot of labor that goes into making amazing pastrami. I don't think that $27 is too much for a pastrami sandwich. Now if this was just plain deli meat, of course, no good. But $27 for a pastrami sandwich, I don't, I don't have a problem with it. This is also. If you're eating a pastrami sandwich every day, Josh, if this isn't a treat for you, you're going to pass away. So you should treat this as a treat. And a $27 treat once in a while. Not such a big deal.

[Josh]

I struggle, I struggle with it only because I grew up going to Katz's in the 90s before. I think it had this. I mean, it truly has leveled up in the last decade because of social media, right? Ben, you'd say it's got, it's definitely.

[Ben]

Gotten better, but it is still a hundred year old institution that has been firing for 100 years. It's definitely, it's now reached a level of fame that nobody could have ever seen possible for a single location, but it's been very popular.

[Josh]

I just don't think that. I think it's a crazy amount of money for a sandwich. I'm also not the biggest pastrami guy, but I feel like it's crushing it so hard and it's not like they said. And because of that, we've leveled up. Like it's the same products that they've had for 100 years and they're wonderful and amazing. But I guess you're paying for the experience. To go and be in the place where Harry Met Sally was filmed.

[Ben]

I really think that you're just paying for great, high quality meats. Like when I think of like, would you, when you go, if you went to a restaurant and you got a steak frites and it was on the menu for 2799, are you balking at that? Because pastrami is. You're having a piece of meat like it's sliced differently, but in terms of preparation, how long it took, I think because it's labeled a sandwich, people are like, I'm not paying for a sandwich.

[Josh]

That's fair.

[Ben]

But like, no, it's premium meat that is always delicious and always fresh. Like, you're paying for quality control. Also, like, I'd rather get a. Sure. You could go to. I'm sure a bodega has a pastrami sandwich. Like, you can go and find a $12 pastrami sandwich that has listeria and you're going to lose like a leg.

[Josh]

Good baby name.

[Ben]

Listeria.

[Josh]

That could be hot.

[Ben]

Yeah. Short Listy for short.

[Josh]

And it's like that Rihanna song, Listeria.

[Ben]

Listeria.

[Josh]

So good. Wait, I want to see.

[Ben]

I was trying to think of other lines to hysteria.

[Josh]

Let's see. So the equivalent in LA is the number 19 at Langer's Deli, which is a pastrami sandwich with Swiss Russian dressing and coleslaw on double baked Russian bread. All right. Wow. Fascinating. Fascinating. They charge 27 bucks at Langers.

[Ben]

Okay, I'm also.

[Josh]

I stand corrected. And it's totally worth it if you.

[Ben]

Go to Second Avenue, Delhi, if you go to Pastrami Queen, like other staples in New York City where you're going to get amazing pastrami. It's all around there. It's all in that. In that range. And I just think that you're paying for a steak. Think about. You're eating a steak. Okay, this is not a. This is not a boar's head mesquite turkey. Okay? This is. That's not what this is. This is not a. I don't know, what's another brand? This is not an Oscar Mayer.

[Josh]

It's not a Dietzen Watson.

[Ben]

No.

[Josh]

No fair. Okay, I gotcha. We gotcha. Well, there's another one, which is my. My fiance wants to wear her dead husband's wedding ring when we marry. I feel like I'm in second place. Oh, man. She wants to say I do. While still clinging to I did. One bride to be. His unconventional tribute to her late husband has sparked emotional fireworks. Before the ceremony even starts, a 30 year old groom shared on Reddit's infamous Am I the a hole Forum last week that he's locking horns with his fiance over one particular wedding day detail. Her plan to wear her deceased husband's wedding ring on a chain around her neck as they tie the knot this fall.

[Ben]

I have. I have absolutely no problem with this. And the guy's got to get a life like a. Like burying a husband at 30. God forbid. How horrendous is that? Like, let her do.

[Josh]

No, say like, aina. Yeah, do it.

[Ben]

How easy is that?

[Josh]

No, how horrendous is that?

[Ben]

How horrendous is that? She's so just terrible. And like, you're going to. You're threatened by a dead guy. Get over it.

[Josh]

Totally.

[Ben]

Pussy. You pussy loser.

[Josh]

You are the a hole. Sir?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Should we get to his speak pipe?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

If you want to get advice, ask us questions, go to speakpipe.com goodguys Keep it brief. Brevity is key. I can't stress that enough. Let's hear from. Ooh.

[Ben]

From V. Wow, Mysterious.

[Josh]

Let's hear from Listeria Brown. Here we go from V. Hi, Josh.

[D]

And Ben, Avid listener here from upstate New York. I'm looking for some advice. So for the last 15 years, I've been an avid restaurateur, bartender, host, cook, all of that, manager. And after 10 years of being in my job, I was let go unfairly, which was totally proven. We had new management, turnover, they cleaned house, house, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, so after six months of trying to find another job, I finally had found one that I've been at for a year now. And I love it. I have a lot of creative freedom. I have a lot of freedom in general. Things are really great. I'm a manager for the place and I really pretty much run the whole place. It was a small, small business, but unfortunately, I do not make enough money. I'm a single mom, and it's hard for me as it is to keep up with all of my demands as a single mom. But my loyalty to my bosses, I love them so much. They really are supportive and help me out. But because the business is so small, we don't make a lot of profit. They can't really afford to pay me what I should be paid, and they are aware of that. But I just don't know what to do. I don't know whether to try to find another job or stick out my loyalty and try to keep helping to make the business better and hope that maybe they could pay me better one day. I'm not sure what to do, so any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

[Ben]

I don't think that you should be loyal to these people. You've been there for six months. It's really nice that you have that relationship with them. But ultimately, you're an employee. And it's really nice to have great relationships with your employers, but not if they're taking advantage of you. And in the end of the day, if you're a single mom, you need to be paid your fair wage. And restaurants are tough. I wouldn't go to a small restaurant, like, for the next one. If you can, it would be really great. Like, go find a chain like you Mentioned that you're like, you love doing everything in a restaurant. I know it might not be like the. The greatest thrill to, like, work at yard house, but, like, if you work at yard house, you'd be the manager of a yard house, and you could be the manager of 10 yard houses, then you can be manager of a district of yard houses. Like, there's true growth. But I just like the path it seems that you're on is, okay, manager, okay. Opening your own restaurant. And everything that I've heard about that. Josh, let me know if you've heard differently is that that's a nightmare. That is a time suck. That is a money pit. That is not a way to support a family. It's like a once in a lifetime hit that you become a major food group or you become a Tao group, or you become one of those. It's more often than not you go out of business or you spend a ton of money and just float. So I would look for a more corporate management job in. In a restaurant that has true growth potential. And it's really nice to be loyal to these people. But in the end of the day, if they stopped getting customers in their door, they'd fire you. So if they could fire you, then you could quit. If that makes sense.

[Josh]

I've got three words for you only fans. The ultimate side hustle.

[Ben]

Yeah, that works too.

[Josh]

I mean, I do believe. I completely agree with Ben. In addition, I will say I do believe in doing right by people who do right by you. So if you feel like your bosses have been great and really supportive and maybe they just don't have the dough to pay you enough right now, it's. It's worth it if there's like a feasible side job where you can make enough to get by. But agreed with Ben. Like, I've seen so many people where all of a sudden the business got better and somehow they've rationalized why they still can't pay you. So.

[Ben]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know, like, even just. I wish that. Loyalty. Loyalty doesn't come in six months. That's all I'm trying to say. She came to us and said that she's been there for six years. She loves them so much. They're like family. Like, you're still in the honeymoon phase. Like these. I would find a new job. But I hear what Josh is saying too. It's nice to. Karma is a real thing. Be nice to people and good things will happen to you. But these people need to pay you what you're worth. Otherwise, they should hire somebody more junior that has less experience where the wage makes sense.

[Josh]

Word up. Next one from Haley.

[Ben]

Hey, good guys.

[D]

I'm Haley from Connecticut. Thanks for keeping a chill podcast and not taking life too serious. We all really appreciate that. My question for today is my husband and I, at the age of 30, decided that he would get a vasectomy. We have three kiddos, and it's been about three years since his vasectomy, and I'm really feeling like I'm not quite done and want another baby. We've been chatting about it, and he says, I don't know, about a fourth. I really think he's just scared to get the reversal. What are you guys thoughts? Should he get one or no?

[Ben]

What's the fear in getting a reversal? Also, a vasectomy at 30. You guys must be pounding away.

[Josh]

They have three kids already.

[Ben]

No, I know, but, like, holy smokes. I just don't think I've heard of somebody getting a vasectomy at 30. That's all. But good for him. Good for you guys. I think that ultimately it takes two to tango, and if he's comfortable at three, I think that three is a lovely number. And. But if you can afford four, I don't know. This is up to you. How the hell am I supposed to give you advice? What are you nuts?

[Josh]

I've heard. I just asked chatgpt. I've heard the reversal is painful.

[Ben]

It's painful.

[Josh]

I don't blame him.

[Ben]

How? Tell me how. Walk me through it.

[Josh]

Well, I think the initial vasect is just removing. They're just removing a little piping. It's just a little pipe. You know, I'm saying, like, they're just kind of taking, like, a little bit of the highway in between these two exits so that there's no straight path for whatever. Even though recently I heard someone complaining that, like, her friends who've had vasectomies like, their relationships went to pot because it changed something in the man and his hormones. That's not true. That's fake news. It doesn't affect her hormones at all. It's just kind of taking the pipe away from where the baby part, where the seed part comes from, so.

[Ben]

Got it. Got it. So you need to lay down new pipe.

[Josh]

I always reattaching pipe.

[Ben]

I was. That sounds incredibly painful. I always thought that. I always thought that the term tubes tied literally referred to.

[Josh]

That's women.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Olivia couldn't even hold back.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. Ben, you.

[Josh]

You want. Don't shoot don't shoot, you sheltered little cub.

[Ben]

Don't shoot. We love you.

[Josh]

Don't shoot.

[Ben]

I'm just saying. Okay. Why can't you tie his. He has this nice tube as well. Why can't you just crack the hose? Why do you have to remove a part of the hose? Why don't you just crack the hose?

[Josh]

That's what they're doing. Have you ever seen a cracked hose? It looks painful as shit.

[Ben]

Yeah, but I don't. It's more. It's less painful to straighten the hose than it is to redo the hose.

[Josh]

Tubes died. Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Don't shoot.

[Josh]

It's hysterical, Ben, because you are so smart and you are so seasoned in so many things and you just have these cute little shelters. Moments in their caillou.

[Ben]

I do. I do. I haven't had my tubes tied that said that. People have been telling me that the amount of dates I'm eating, five dates a day. Josh. I don't know if I told you, I'm obsessed with dates. They told me that it's really great for fertility, and I had to tell them that I am not a woman.

[Josh]

I don't know. I. Look, you have three kids. You're young. You guys decided to have the vasectomy. I'm going to air. And I don't usually team dude here. And it's his body, his choice. And if he doesn't want to get another surgery and reverse it, like, count your blessings with three beautiful kids. Like, I kind of get it.

[Ben]

Amen. Yeah, Amen, sister. Don't let him tie those tubes. Or untie them.

[Josh]

Should we get to our Woody Nuts?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Our Woody Nuts. Moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever's sticking in your craw. Ben, you want to go first?

[Ben]

So I just mentioned Josh, I teased that I'm obsessed with dates right now. Okay. I discovered nature's candy. These dates. Okay, I know I'm late to the party. These dates. These medjool dates. Holy smokes, do they taste delicious. Unbelievable. Okay, And I know before you jump all over me, they're caloric. There's a lot of sugar in them. No, but they spike all.

[Josh]

They don't spike your blood sugar, right?

[Ben]

Correct. They don't spike, but I get it. It's a lot of dates. That said these things are delicious and sweet. I told people, Josh, that I'm eating dates. They said, oh, my God, you have to bake and wrap your dates. Oh, my God, you have to stuff them with peanut Butter and dip them in chocolate. How fat are you bastards? What are you, nuts? Like, just enjoy. Just enjoy this beautiful. Is it a fruit? Is a date of fruit? Is it a nut? What is it? It's a nut. I don't even know how you describe a date, but enjoy nature's candy. Okay, that's like me saying that I started falling in love with strawberries. Oh, you have to dip them in chocolate. No, I don't. What are you, nuts? Stop being such a fat fatty and making everything unhealthy. Dates are delicious. Enjoy them plain.

[Josh]

Okay, fair enough. Dates are delicious. Not gonna fight you on that one. My what are you nuts? Is recently. And I can't believe I never get invited, but it is my dream to one day go to WrestleMania. And it just happened over the weekend. Beautiful Las Vegas and John Cena wound up winning WrestleMania. And so later I see press conference with John Cena where he talks about him winning WrestleMania. Press conference like you do after a sporting event. Yeah, except this one. This sport is scripted. What are you, nuts? Yeah, I'm not gonna treat you like an athlete, dog. You knew you were gonna win.

[Ben]

It's completely nuts. So how deep did you need to dig to win that fight? It was written. Yes.

[Josh]

And no shade on wwe. I love it. These guys are true athletes. But it's not a. It's sports entertainment.

[Ben]

No post game. It's actually hysterical. It is a real woody. Nuts. The post game should be with the writers. Like, they should be asking. They should be asking the writers, like, so how did you think of. How did you think of that ending? And why did you pick Cena to win? Not, like, how did you act out what the writers wrote for you? What are you nuts?

[Josh]

But I'm telling you, these writers are going to be a bunch of finger sniffers and air monarchs and cargo pants. So, Phil, how did you come up with that? And he's like, well, in between World of Warcraft, I thought.

[Ben]

Right after I cleaned the cum off my gym shorts, I decided Cena would be a great comeback.

[Josh]

Right after I ate some insulation from my garage wall. Let's end it there, Ben.

[Ben]

I can't wait for an army of writers to come after us, folks. This episode is 5 stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time.

[Josh]

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