THE KNICKS ARE CHAMPIONS

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – "THE KNICKS ARE CHAMPIONS"

Date: June 18, 2026
Hosts: Josh Peck and Ben Soffer
Podcast: Good Guys (Dear Media)

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Overview

This episode of the Good Guys podcast is a raucous, deeply personal celebration of the New York Knicks’ first NBA championship in over 50 years, recorded just after the pivotal win. Ben and Josh detail the euphoric journey through the NBA Finals, with Ben recounting his first-hand experiences at the games, the electrifying atmosphere at Madison Square Garden, celebrity encounters, and the rollercoaster emotions only lifelong Knicks fans can understand. This is a sports-heavy, yet pop culture-infused episode packed with hilarious tangents, relatable New York neuroticism, and a candid exploration of what fandom means.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. The Knicks’ Championship Run – Emotional Highs and Lows

• Ben’s Unmatched Euphoria & Game Four Magic

  • Ben describes attending game four as "the greatest night of my life" (01:12), caught between guilt for ranking it above marriage/parenthood and the sheer dopamine rush of witnessing the comeback win at MSG.
  • "It was like you're watching a Disney Channel original movie.... They were down 29 and they effectively won on a buzzer beater at home at the Garden." (01:54)
  • He credits OG Anunoby’s tip-in and Jalen Brunson’s 45-point masterpiece as legendary moments, putting Brunson’s performance on par only with Michael Jordan:
    • "It's Jalen Brunson and Michael fucking Jordan. My God." (02:42, Ben)

• Processing the Actual Title Win

  • Despite the Knicks officially sealing the championship later, Ben admits the clinical satisfaction of the final win didn’t live up to the emotional peak of game four.
  • Josh jokes, "I've realized that I'm allergic to joy because the moment the Knicks won, I went, I just can't do it." (04:00)

• Basketball Legends and "GOAT" Banter

  • The preshow features playful debate:
    • "You don't ask God for a photo. If you happen to be fortunate enough to just like pop up in a photo next to God... That's cool. You don't ask God for a photo." (03:32, Ben)

2. Behind the Scenes – Ben’s NBA Finals Adventure

• Traveling with Knicks Legends and Celebrity Circles

  • Invited by Michelob Ultra, Ben takes a private charter flight with Knicks icons Walt "Clyde" Frazier and Henrik Lundquist among other VIPs to the San Antonio away game (08:08).
  • Details surreal luxury: pastries, mingling with execs, speeches from Clyde about destiny, etc.

• Celebrity Seating Protocols

  • Discussion about why even power players aren’t always seated courtside:
    • "If you're gonna sit here, you have to take that [Knicks jersey] off." (14:59, Ben)
    • "I was, I was across from Shane Gillis, who was sitting courtside wearing a Chili's T-shirt." (15:18, Ben)

• Fan Customs and Arena Experiences

  • Ben describes the more old-school, less commercial vibe in San Antonio’s Frost Bank Center:
    • "They sell merch on bulletin boards... it's like you're at a 200 person concert." (24:30, Ben)
  • Anecdote about Knicks fans yelling "Let's go, Knicks!" during the national anthem, which almost led to a fight:
    • "It's not disrespectful in our eyes. When there's a lull, it's—I’m trying to think of the exact moment..." (24:48, Ben)

• Knicks Merchandise Rituals and Superstitions

  • Stress-buying $250 in finals T-shirts mid-game, layering shirts for good luck (41:17–41:53).

3. The Game Four Comeback – In-Seat Atmosphere and Fandom

• Ben relives the intensity of Game Four:

  • "As the refs were making bad calls, I heard one of them say the fix is in, like the California election... If we can cut this thing from 29 points to 15 by the start of the 4th quarter, we have a chance." (42:00, Ben)
  • OG Anunoby’s chase-down block and clutch tip-in are described as a "LeBron Finals block" moment for Knicks history (43:00).

• Knicks Fandom Real Talk

  • "The Knicks fucking sucked for so long... By the way, Josh, if they don't fucking win this championship—" (44:00, Ben)
  • "It would be the Knicks being nixing, which is exactly what we were saying last night the whole time." (44:18, Ben)

4. Celebrity Row & Pop Culture Moments

• Who’s Actually a Fan?

  • Ben and Josh debate the authenticity of various celebs in attendance:
    • "Game three, last game I wasn't at, was Ashanda. DJ Khaled sitting front row on his phone, texting..." (46:05, Ben)
    • "Jeter, who hasn't been to... Madison Square Garden in 30 years." (46:29, Ben)
    • "Taylor Swift, I think, is a die hard fan. Stevie Nicks, they made cute, fun shirts. I loved it all." (47:02, Ben)
    • Extensive rundown of who’s real and who’s just there for “clout.”

• On Having Kids, Babysitting, and Relationships

  • "When you're that level of famous... having two or three kids... it's actually like, negative one" (49:03, Josh)
  • Heartwarming story about Ben’s dad, Brewster, babysitting during the game, texting updates, and getting confused with technology (49:43–51:31).

5. The Aftermath – Riotous Celebration and New York City Mayhem

• Postgame Streets

  • Ben describes the chaos leaving the arena:
    • "You just feel like you're going to be jumped and you're walking through it... people are standing up on cars that aren't theirs, and it starts to feel scary and rowdy..." (52:49, Ben)

• Classic New York Tangents

  • Comparison to leaving the club before/after closing time (53:24, Josh)
  • Distinction between true fans inside the arena and "ragamuffin" crowds outside:
    • "None of the people celebrating were at the game, right? None of them. They're just waiting to celebrate. Ragamuffins." (55:03, Ben)

6. Woody & Nuts – Venting Roast

• Fan Etiquette

  • Ben’s gripes:
    • Fans climbing through other rows instead of their own: "What are you nuts? Stay in your own row." (55:10, Ben)
    • Egg thrown at Spurs phenom Wemby: "Don't make us Knicks fans look bad... We’ve waited 50 fucking years for this." (55:22, Ben)

• Impromptu Justice

  • Josh’s idea: "We don’t take them to jail... Wemby, you get one punch right in the gut." (56:30, Josh)

• France Banning Nicotine Pouches

  • "If smoking is Michael Jordan, then Zinning is me playing at LA Fitness, but still. What are you nuts? You're banning Zinn?" (57:45, Josh)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/timestamps)

• On Game Four’s Epicness:

  "It was like you're watching a Disney Channel original movie.... They were down 29 and they effectively won on a buzzer beater at home at the Garden." (01:54, Ben)

• On Jalen Brunson:

  "It's Jalen Brunson and Michael fucking Jordan. My God." (02:42, Ben)

• Fanliness vs. Fandom:

  "You don't ask God for a photo. If you happen to be fortunate enough to just like pop up in a photo next to God... That's cool. You don't ask God for a photo." (03:32, Ben)

• Celebration Chaos:

  "You just feel like you're going to be jumped and you're walking through it... people are standing up on cars that aren't theirs, and it starts to feel scary and rowdy..." (52:49, Ben)

• Celebrity Row Critique:

  "This was Jeter. Jeter, who hasn't been to... Madison Square Garden in 30 years." (46:29, Ben)
  "Taylor Swift, I think, is a die hard fan." (47:02, Ben)

• On Knicks Culture:

  "The Knicks being nixing, which is exactly what we were saying last night the whole time." (44:18, Ben)

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Important Timelines

• 01:12–02:46 – Ben’s Game Four experience and Knicks historic win
• 08:08–11:39 – Ben’s San Antonio trip, Michelob Ultra flight, Scooter Braun story
• 24:30–26:53 – Frost Bank Center experience, Knicks fan customs
• 41:17–44:18 – MSG crowd, epic comeback, sports superstition
• 46:05–48:56 – Celebrity Row analysis, authenticity of fandom
• 52:49–54:21 – Describing the wild New York City postgame atmosphere

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Tone and Style

The episode is irreverent, fast-paced, packed with New York humor, gleeful profanity, and pop-culture references. The hosts are self-deprecating, affectionate Knicks die-hards—a mix of deep sports takes, neurotic Jewish family banter, and cultural critique, all tinged with the disbelief and humor of witnessing a once-in-a-lifetime sports moment.

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Final Thoughts

Whether or not you love sports, this episode is about the power of fandom, the mythology of New York, and the hilarity of experiencing history with your friends, family, and a stadium full of strangers. As Ben puts it:

"It was the greatest sporting event anybody could ask for. I really think I can't name a greater sporting event in sports." (43:15)

Transcript

[Josh]

The following podcast is a dear media production. Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the Good Guys. A Mother Stream premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys. And if you don't give us five stars. What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts? Yeah, we're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good and good of the good guys. Mazda morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast, guys.

[Ben]

We are doing our best to be a little bit more topical this episode. We're doing our best. And by the way, it's coming. It's coming, like in waves. But we wanted to put a little something at the front because, Josh, my God, are we just chefing nachos over here? Over. The New York Knicks winning the championship. And I can't explain it, Josh. I haven't processed that they've won yet. They've won the championship. We're recording after they've won the championship. When. When we went to game four, Claudia and I were there. Game four. This was the greatest. I feel bad saying it was the greatest night of my life because I got married and I have a son. This was the greatest night of my life. I don't even know. I've never felt that level of dopamine in my whole life. It's like you're watching a Disney Channel original movie, Josh, and you're watching. You're like, that's it. That's not gonna fucking happen. What do you mean they're down. They're down 40 at the half. And they went on a buzzer beater. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. They were down 29 and they effectively won on a buzzer beater at home at the Garden. Me and Claudia, it was. It was completely insane. So I felt. I left that game like, oh, my God, we. We won something. I didn't know what we won. Like, yeah, I guess we just won the game. And technically we didn't win the championship, but it certainly felt like we won the championship that night. Then this weekend, I went to upstate New York to my brother in law's house. We watched the game. They won the championship. I didn't feel, Josh, what I felt after game four. Does that make sense? I felt it. It's amazing. But the championship was won in my eyes on the OG Anunoby tip in. In game four. And then we got to watch a Jalen Brunson masterpiece. 45 points in a closeout playoff game. The only other person, Josh, you know, the Only other person who's done that in basketball.

[Josh]

Airbud.

[Ben]

Michael. Airbud. Close. Air Jordan, Josh.

[Josh]

Right?

[Ben]

It's Jalen Brunson and Michael fucking Jordan. My God.

[Josh]

You know? Yeah, but you know what Jalen Brunson hasn't done?

[Ben]

What?

[Josh]

Turn down a bunch of teenagers for a photo. And that's why he's the goat.

[Ben]

He's the goat.

[Josh]

Michael Jordan, who gives zero fucks.

[Ben]

Yeah, he gives. He gives no fucks at all. He's just like. MG isn't just him and Tiger woods are just, like, off to the side as, like, these guys that can just do no wrong. They're goats. And he can't touch them. Yeah, you can't touch them,

[Josh]

son. Asked Michael Jordan for a photo, and he came to me and he was like, dad, I saw Michael Jordan. He said no to a photo. I'd say, what did you do, son?

[Ben]

Yeah, I would say, why the. Are you bothering the goat? Yeah, why? Why? You're at. You're asking him for a photo. He's like, God. You don't ask God for a photo. If you happen to be fortunate enough to just, like, pop up in a photo next to God. That's cool. You don't ask God for a photo. Yeah.

[Josh]

Michael was busy shooting dice in a back alley, I'm sure.

[Ben]

Definitely. He is. He is a terribly addicted gambler with a terrible drinking problem. That definitely has lung disease. That's my goat. That's my goat.

[Josh]

Goat. Absolutely unapologetic. Oh, well, I'm so happy for you. I've realized that I'm allergic to joy because the moment the Knicks won, I went, I just can't do it. I don't.

[Ben]

All right, well, I'll draw it in for you. Just this comparison. I loved the only other person who has declined taking pictures with the Larry o' Brien trophy before they got it besides Jalen Brunson. You know who it was?

[Josh]

Kobe.

[Ben]

Kobe Mamba mentality. That's fucking right. Rest in peace, Miss the legend.

[Josh]

I think there's definitely a chance I get a Kobe tattoo before I die. If I get a Kobe tattoo, would you get a small Jalen?

[Ben]

I would tell you that I did, definitely.

[Josh]

Is it really a Jew thing?

[Ben]

It's.

[Josh]

It's.

[Ben]

It's definitely ingrained in my brain as Just like my grandma telling me, no. But it's also. I just don't think I'm cool enough yet. Maybe, Maybe. Maybe in 10 years, I'll be cool enough. Right now, I'm just, like, not that kind of cool. That said, if you get Kobe, I want KO on your left ass cheek and B E on your right. What do you think about that?

[Josh]

I think that sounds great. But also like, what about then technically you shouldn't get your ears pierced or anything like that. Right. Which I'd be disqualified anyway. But you know the, the Jewish ladies, they all have ears piercing.

[Ben]

You. You know the. You know the way that I am with picking and choosing. I think that. I think. I think that the reason why ear P. We would have to bring a rabbi on the podcast to truly know. I think that the holes technically. I know they don't always technically are supposed to close up.

[Josh]

No, they. Not technically. Not after like a year or two. I still have mine. I'll pop in an earring every now and then. Just.

[Ben]

Okay, I need you to pop in an earring next. But we need to ask. Somebody needs ask a rabbi why earrings are chill. I don't know, Josh. I don't know. That said, I want you to Kobe tattoo. I'm actually now thinking, and this is how we're gonna end it on this grotesque comment. You're gonna go K on the left, but. And then B E on the right. And then when you spread your ass, it turns into an O.

[Josh]

Or it'll just look like it'll be I'll spread my ass and they'll be like, oh, wow, he's got a Kobe tattoo. And then I spread and they go, oh, no, it's his Kuba day. All right, so here's. We're gonna go back in time right now. Enjoy this way too much sports Nick's episode. We warned you already, but we wanted to give you a little context. This is a sports heavy episode. We are men, biologically at least in spirit. We are women, women, women. But we love you guys and this is going to be a fun ride. Enjoy. Bye, Maurons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast.

[Ben]

Oh, Josh, I am exhausted. OK. Yeah, I'm exhausted. These games are starting at 8:30. They're taking everything out of me.

[Josh]

Which games, Ben? What games?

[Ben]

Talk about what games? I guess like the. The World cup is here. There's. I'm really into women's. Women's hockey. Is women's hockey going on now.

[Josh]

Women's hockey?

[Ben]

I really like preseason. Wnba. I think that's happening a little bit now. Like the Sparks are playing the.

[Josh]

There's some curling going on, I'm sure in the Manitoba.

[Ben]

The Links. The Links. Curling? No, the fucking Knicks. Holy shit. Oh my God. It literally just. It sits in Me, it's dormant and then all of a sudden it just. It erupts through my esophagus and I can't fucking breathe. I can't breathe. I. Ok, backing it up. You tell me when I'm boring. No, game one. Game one. I go to San Antonio. I was invited by the great Tyler Cameron. Went.

[Josh]

No, you, you set the scene. You were invited by the great Michelob Ultra. Give me. I want.

[Ben]

Okay, okay. You want. Okay, okay, we're going along.

[Josh]

I want to feel like I'm there.

[Ben]

Okay, okay, okay. So we're going at all. We're going deep. Okay.

[Josh]

The great Gary Rosen from WME calls you.

[Ben]

Yes. She says, and she says, michaela Ultra is going to take you and Tyler Cameron to the Knicks game. And I said, what? What? What do you mean? She's like. The New York Knicks and Michelob Ultra are chartering a private plane with New York Knicks legends. Get to Newark the morning of game one and get ready to have the night of your life. I show up to Newark.

[Josh]

Were you like, do jfk?

[Ben]

I was like, can you do pbi? I'm in Florida. I was in Florida. Right. Flew from Florida to Newark, 6am Flight, get there and I meet Tyler Cameron who is just. I don't think you've met him. Josh, he's just the nicest guy. He's a good guy. He's. He's the greatest. And I see that and I definitely

[Josh]

know who that is. Okay.

[Ben]

He's not even like. He's not even a big Nick fan. He's like, I don't know why I'm here, but he's here with me. We're along for this ride. We get to. There's like a little. They made like Josh, like some Nick's donuts and beautiful pastries and you could have some Michelobs and some beautiful seltzers and whatever you want.

[Josh]

By the way, Michelob Ultra Na. Beer is one of my faves, first of all. It's like water and it goes down easy. I'm not just saying this because they hooked up my Ben and didn't hook me up. Zero, not at all. But also 29 calories.

[Ben]

Like, let me, let me tell you, Josh, they're now going to hook you up, pay this man, work with this man.

[Josh]

Because.

[Ben]

And Josh, they must. I can't even imagine how much money they have. This is, this is Josh, like, the dream is to own a brand like Michelob and be able to bring people on experiences like this. Because this is what builds a brand. The Brand Michelob made this experience for me. I will never forget them. They chartered an entire Delta flight. The whole plane is. It's like, JP Morgan executives, some fans that won, like, tickets. It's me, Tyler, I guess, like some other, like, creators, like Die Hard, Nick fans and then Walt Clyde Frazier and Henrik Lundquist. When you walk onto the plane, they're just sitting in first class. 1A, 1B. They're giving speeches on the plane, pumping us up. They're like, the Knicks. It's destiny. Clyde's like, we haven't won since 73, but I've been a Die Hard. I'm your guy. I love that you guys have rallied around me as the guy. But it's this next time. It's their time to shine. We land in San Antonio, and I was texting with my friend Scooter Braun, and I was like, scooter, we want to meet up for the game. Come meet me at this bar. It's Walt Frazier, John Starks. He's like, dude, I'm there. My brother and father, who I'm going with, don't land for two hours. I'll come meet you.

[Josh]

Now tell me if this is some dickhead shit.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But the great Dan Cruise, my dear friend whom I love so much. Current. Current. Big, big macher at ucla. He texts me a picture of you in the great Scooter brawn. And he goes, oh, that's amazing that Ben's there. So cool. How does he know Scott? And I said, who's Scott? And he goes, the guy in the picture with Ben. And I go, scooter? And he goes, no, Josh, I call him Scott cause he's a grown man. Okay,

[Ben]

That is amazing. Um, yeah, I. I guess, like, I. I call him Scooter. I think that if you're. I think that nicknames, especially big public nicknames, like, if you're a newer friend, you call them by that. I guess, like, his OGs would call him Scott. Like somebody like, Gotcha. My Machatunam would call me Benjamin, I guess. But he's Scooter. Like, I'm not. Like, I don't know him as Scott. That is so funny, though. So he comes, Josh. He meets me and he shows up upset. By the way, I haven't told this story. I have not told this story publicly.

[Josh]

Amazing.

[Ben]

He shows up upset, and I'm like, scooter, what's wrong? He's like, dude, you're never going to fucking believe it. My dad and brother were flying privately on a friend's plane. And it Got grounded at Teterboro. They're not coming. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah. At least 10 planes were grounded at Teterboro. Leaving. That's the private airport in New Jersey. Going to the private airport in San Antonio. By the way, it may sound extra, what a bitch it is to get to San Antonio. Okay? This is not Dallas, this is not Austin. Very difficult. If there are any nonstop flights, maybe there's one a day at a time that does not work to get to a basketball game. And. And when the great Charles Barkley says that the only thing in San Antonio is churros and big women, he's not joking. Ok? There's nothing there. There's nothing in San Antonio.

[Josh]

I'm going to just sound like Shaq. It's big women and churros.

[Ben]

No, I don't. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. And he's like, my. They were grounded. I have like one friend that's coming and meeting me, but I have two extra tickets. I know you already have tickets. It might be a huge imposition, but I really don't want to sit alone. Do you mind sitting with me? And I played it super cool in the moment. I'm like, dude, like, no problem. Like, I don't want you to sit alone. And inside me, I'm freaking the fuck out because I know that wherever he's sitting is obviously significantly better than wherever I was sitting.

[Josh]

Right?

[Ben]

And again, shout out. Michelob Ultra. Shout out the Knicks. You took me there. It was going to be a great game. But instead of being in the corner row 30, I was five fucking rows behind center court. Like I was full blown courtside. And Adam Silver was in my row, Bob Iger was in my row. And I watched what I thought at the time was the greatest game in Knicks history. This is in. In such a high intensity environment. The Knicks showed up and they won on the road. And then they won on the road again. And then. Josh. Yeah. Please, please tell me this.

[Josh]

I want to understand, but. And I realize that a lot of the celebrities from New York are tr. Traveling to the away games.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Why in San Antonio? No shade on San Antonio, but certainly a little easier to get a ticket if you're a celebrity than New York. Just because there's such a concentration.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

You're Bob Iger, the chairman of Disney and one of the most powerful people on earth. You're, I guess, yeah, Adam Silver, the commissioner. But I guess you don't usually see the commissioner sitting courtside. But you're Scooter Braun, you're Bob Iger. You're the great Ben Safer celebrity. I'm including you in this. But why, why aren't they courtside? Why aren't you guys courtside?

[Ben]

So I think that. Well, one, I ended up sitting next to this guy who was high up at Paramount and he had a courtside seat. He was wearing a Bernard King jersey. And they said, if you're going to sit here, you have to take that off.

[Josh]

I, I've heard that.

[Ben]

And he said, then I'm gonna sit somewhere else. Please resit me. Like please rezone me. And he came and he sat coincidentally next to me. I was, I was across from Shane Gillis, who was sitting courtside wearing a Chili's T shirt. And I know he was rooting for the Knicks. It was just Chili's. Like you could not be in fan gear to watch the game now.

[Josh]

Adam Chalamet and Stiller there or no.

[Ben]

Second row, second row.

[Josh]

Gotcha, gotcha.

[Ben]

Behind the Knicks bench, second row. I think that it would be a little. I think that I understand why Adam Silver wouldn't sit courtside. I feel like executives don't ever sit courtside. They sit the first like they sit in great seats.

[Josh]

Unless you aria Manuel at the Garden.

[Ben]

Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, sorry, NBA executives is what I meant. Iger could have definitely sat courtside. I guess that he was just invited by Silver and they were just like sitting together and talking about whatever monster deal they have in the works. I can't even imagine. But yeah, this was, this was. At the time I thought like the high of highs in sports and.

[Josh]

Do you fly home commercial, blue home,

[Ben]

commercial in the morning? I slept in San Antonio.

[Josh]

Okay. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah. So they offered, so they offered it last night, Josh. They offered it. They said like you can fly back. Tell me what you would have done. Okay, you tell me. I could have flown back on the same plane that I flew there on that Delta flight. It leaves at midnight, gets in at 4:30 in the morning. I had to go back to Florida. So I then would have gotten on another flight back to Florida. Landed in Florida at nine in the morning having not slept at all. Or sleep in San Antonio at the wonderful Cyprus. What a beautiful hotel. I loved it. Part of Marriott, not expensive. 300 bucks on the night of a game. By the way, lovely hotel. Wake up. Took an 7:30 connecting flight through DFW, landed at 12 in Florida. In Florida. And I got, I got six hours. Six, seven hours. I got enough sleep.

[Josh]

First of all, absolutely the right Move how? I mean, if you take that private jet to Newark, how are you going to meet a wonderful San Antonio prostitute at the airport bar at 11?

[Ben]

Correct. I never would have. I never would have. What do you never. I wouldn't have any churros. I would have had nothing. Nothing. I would have lost the whole experience.

[Josh]

Yes, your churro wouldn't have been fried and battered, but I.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

You're right. $300 on the night of a game when you know there's a huge influx of people isn't bad. But you know me, I'm a Marriott airport guy. I'm like staying at a Fairfield Suites in Fort Lauderdale for 1:10 a night. I send you those. My. My folios after I go. Can you believe this, right? Can you believe this rate?

[Ben]

By the way, there's nothing than that. That said, sometimes those beds and air conditioners make me sick. So I opted for the Cyprus. And let me tell you to move. Shout out. I loved it. It was 12 minutes from the airport. It was perfect. The arena is only 15 minutes from the airport. This arena Frost Bank Stadium. Class I was Transported to the 90s. So much color. Josh, they don't. They sell merch on bulletin boards?

[Josh]

Hell, yeah.

[Ben]

They don't even have stores. It's like you're at like a 200 person concert. But it's where the spurs play. And the fans are so nice. I did almost get in a fight with one fan. We do something. Let me ask you this. We're very patriotic in New York. We love our country. But during the national anthem, at pauses, we scream, let's go, Knicks. It's just something that we do. It's not disrespectful in our eyes. When there's a lull, it's. I'm trying to think of, like, the exact moment. Whatever. When there's a lull, we scream, let's go, Nicks. And everybody hold on.

[Josh]

Let me. Let me try. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you a little.

[Ben]

Say can you see by the dawn's early life. Here?

[Josh]

Ready? And the rockets red glare. Lol.

[Ben]

It was right. I think it was right before that. Do it. And then get to that.

[Josh]

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's hurry light what so proudly we have had the twilight's last gleaming.

[Ben]

Let's go. Next. Oh, my God.

[Josh]

I would have fought you too.

[Ben]

What the hell did that Jew say? I was literally there speaking Hebrew, this motherfucker. And I literally said to him. I was like, I mean, no disrespect. This is just what we do in New York. And he had it on me.

[Josh]

What did he do?

[Ben]

He just, like, looked at me and said something. He's like, you're so disrespectful. Whatever. This is before the game started. Then, like, the Knicks went on a quick run. I think Wemby, like, blocked the shot. And he looked at me and he went like this. He stuck out his elbow and I could see his armpit. I don't even know what he was doing, but I was like, nice armpit, man. Sweet arm, sweet armpit. And he didn't talk to me the rest of the game. And once we won, the people around him were like, it's very clear how much you wanted this. Congrats. Like, Knicks fans deserve it. You guys showed up. Congrats. And that guy just walked out. Didn't say a fucking word.

[Josh]

Whoa.

[Ben]

That bald probably. Nice patriot that just. We got into. We got into a scuffle.

[Josh]

You can't go wrong not doing anything but standing completely still during the national anthem. Totally. And I But you tell me because, like, I would be. I don't know why I don't put my hand over my heart during the national anthem. It feels infantilize. Like, I don't know. I feel like a little kid. Even though I can completely respect and, and I have massive, obviously deep respect for the national anthem, for our troops, for our wonderful country. So I just stand with my hands like in front of me like this, like, clasp and ed attention standing fully and make sure always my kids are quiet and respectful. But like, I've seen. I think they got mad at Michael Strahan once on TV for going like this instead of hand over heart. What do you think?

[Ben]

I think that if you're wearing a hat, you're gonna go hand over heart. You take it off and it kind of goes on your chest. Like you, like, wear it kind of like that. But if you have no hat on, you know, whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. If you don't have a hat on. Like, I don't. This, this is too much for me.

[Josh]

Me too.

[Ben]

This is, this is very close to this. This is very. This is too much like.

[Josh]

Oh, God. Do you wish. I don't. I know you don't have the same desire that I have that the only regret I have in life was that I wasn't in the service. I wish I had done like six

[Ben]

years in the military, but I've never spoken about this. You really great. Your greatest wish, by the way, could, could you like, could you not do a light stint at 40? That's like a movie, by the way. Last Night was a movie. We'll get to that. But I'm just saying Last Night was a Disney Channel original that was so unbelievably unrealistic and somehow happened. So I'm just saying the 40 year old combat warrior, it could happen.

[Josh]

First of all, I think the age cutoff to enlist is 38. Not that I've looked into it. And then. Yeah, but the problem is I have to go to basic training and be away from my family. It's also something not to be done at that age. It's something to do at 18 when your frontal cortex isn't fully formed and you're with like a bunch of like young boys going hard.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah. It's interesting though, because you're in, I think you'd say, the best physical condition of your life. I think you're only getting better every day. And if you went in at 18, you probably wouldn't have been anywhere near where you Are today. Yeah.

[Josh]

At 25, I was doing CrossFit and just met Paige and I was fucking hot and like that probably that would have been the time to go.

[Ben]

That would have been the time. Okay. I just feel like now your muscles, McGee, your muscles on muscles.

[Josh]

Oh, God. So, so, too kind.

[Ben]

Yeah. I've. Maybe I'd be the chef in the army, but I've never had a real urge to. To be out there. And I just. I want to help, but I don't think that I'm of help with a gun in the field. But I do think I'm of help giving you a sloppy joe or maybe even like stitching up a wound. Okay. Like. Like I'm here. I'm back a house. I'm back a house. But I do want to be there. It would be. It would be an incredible honor to be able to do something like that.

[Josh]

Yeah. I, When I trained with these Navy SEALs, I was like, what made you want to be a seal? And they were like, well, I knew I wanted to be in the Navy and so if I didn't go to Special Forces, it would have meant that I'd have to be on an aircraft carrier or even worse, in a submarine for nine months at a time.

[Ben]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

They were like, I couldn't do it.

[Ben]

I've never even thought about submarine for nine months at a time.

[Josh]

Sometimes they're down that far because they run on nuclear energy, so they can kind of stay down there indefinitely.

[Ben]

That is so insane. I was in an elevator yesterday for 60 seconds, a high speed elevator at this new Avenue. If you remember, that club reopened Shout out marquee group. And it was like the. The opening. I went before the Nick game at the Edge. It's like this new. It's on the hundredth floor at Hudson Yards. And their claim is it takes 59 seconds to go a hundred floors. And let me tell you, I was panicking. Panicking.

[Josh]

That's going up.

[Ben]

That's one minute, nine months in a submarine. I'm claustrophobic also. I think that's part of what it is like. I really do not like tight spaces without the knowledge of when I'm getting out. I get very hot, very flustered very quickly. It's the only thing that's like that for me. Claustrophobia is very real for me. Tight spaces. I sometimes see people swimming through these like craters. I'm like, are you. You're not worried that you're gonna get fucking stuck numbs though.

[Josh]

It just happened in the Maldives.

[Ben]

Oh, there you Go like.

[Josh]

Yeah, sadly like six scuba divers died going through a cavern and it got weird. But, but like you, I believe you have claustrophobia, but you live in New York. So to an extent you've, you've adapted or are able to keep it in check because you're in an elevator probably, I would imagine, every single day.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

And like my mother in law is Shout out. The great Stacy o' Brien is so claustrophobic that she will avoid elevators at any cost. So we stayed at the Great Level apartments in Vancouver a year and a half ago. Shout out the level. It's great. If you're going to Vancouver, check it out. So we're staying there and we went for a family trip for like five days and we were on the 14th floor and her and I took the stairs multiple times because she was like, if there's not a reason where we need to get up there immediately, do you mind if we just take like, like and always down and then sometimes up. And I was like, yeah, let's do this. Let's get a workout.

[Ben]

Got it. So yeah, I am, I'm not claustrophobic in that sense. If I know that there is. If I know that I'm not in danger for sure. And I know when and if I'm getting out of the situation, I'm not afraid at all. I could stand right up next to you in a very tight space if I have a clock, knowing when it's going to end and I can get out. But that fear of an elevator stops. You're in a scary building. You don't know if the elevator, like you're not in one world trade. You're in like this rickety 12 floor. You think it might drop, which is an unrealistic thought. But that's when I do get scared and it gets hot and I make myself hot. But yeah, no regular routine. No, I'm not, I'm not claustrophobic.

[Josh]

So tell me about last night. So cut to. They lose the first game in New York. So now it's 2:1 New York Knicks. Last night was maybe one of the greatest games in NBA. The greatest game in NBA Finals history. Go Ben. Sorry if you don't like sports, morons.

[Ben]

Yeah, no, you definitely.

[Josh]

This is bigger than sports. This is pop culture.

[Ben]

This is a thing. This is bigger than sports. Taylor Swift was there, all this stuff. But going back a step, if I didn't go to San Antonio, I probably wouldn't have gone to this game at the Garden. I met a lovely man at Madison Square Garden. Named Brett, who runs the alumni program. And I was talking to him, and he's like, you want me to submit for face value tickets for you? I'm like, there's a bear shit in the woods. Like, yeah, please. And Claudia had been trying to surprise me. Father's Day present for, like, the last week. Looking for tickets. We're not. Like, it's not a Father's Day present for her to spend an ungodly amount of money. That doesn't make me feel good. Right. I don't want to go to a game and spend $30,000. It's disgusting. Like, that's the price of it can change somebody's life. So I wanted to go under the right circumstances and in the interest of transparency, I ended up spending 50, $400 total for two tickets last night, which

[Josh]

was unreal for that.

[Ben]

Unreal for that kind of game. Unreal. So I go to the game, we get there, and so this guy calls

[Josh]

you and says, you're in, you guys.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

You got him.

[Ben]

Yes, you got him. Check your Ticketmaster account. You got him.

[Josh]

Holy.

[Ben]

Actually, actually, he called me and said, I accidentally sent you the wrong tickets that were meant for Stephon Marbury's kids. Please send them back and then send me the regular ones.

[Josh]

Great. Like, why are Stephen Marbury's kids in the 300, 215? The upper ball.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

So shout out Jason Strauss. Delish.

[Ben]

I was stress eating. I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I got back in. I had purchased earlier in the game like $250 in just t shirts. I bought every single Knicks Finals T shirt I could get my hands on and I was like, something's gotta fucking change. I took off the windbreaker I was wearing. I took off the shirt I was wearing. I put on a new, new T

[Josh]

shirt did you change your T shirt? Did you go bare chest at your seat or do it in the bathroom?

[Ben]

No, I did the fat man move, which every fat man knows how to do. You layer, you put one T shirt over the other one and you get your arms out and you squiggle it out and you pull it out through your armpit. You know that move?

[Josh]

Sure, yeah. Women do it with a bra.

[Ben]

You know that move. So I did that move.

[Josh]

Big fat move.

[Ben]

Correct. Big fatso move.

[Josh]

Bff.

[Ben]

And I really should have just. I think if Claudia wasn't there, I would have just taken off my shirt. She would have been too embarrassed. You're right, she was there. She would have been mortified. And I came back in and this kid next to me, the people around me were hilarious. Like, as the refs were making bad calls, I heard one of them say the fixes in, like the California election. The guy behind me was like, what are these refs paid for by mom, Daddy? It was, it was hysterical. And all of a sudden we just all buckled in and I think believed a little. And we just kept saying, if we can cut this thing from 29 points to 15 by the start of the fourth quarter, we have a chance. We got it to 15, then was like, if we can cut this thing to 10 by 6 minutes, we have a chance. Somehow. We go up one, Josh Hart misses a wide open layup. We're freaking out. We're freaking out. We're going to lose. And then the unthinkable happens. Brunson stays clutch and OG Anunoby, who not enough people talk about, will be written in the history books as one of the greatest Knicks of all time, has a LeBron esque chase down block. We've been talking about that LeBron finals block. That call by Mike Breen blocked by LeBron. We've been talking about that for a decade and now we're going to talk about it with OG Anunoby. And he comes down on the other side. Brunson misses a three, he goes in and he tips it in. It was, it is seared in my memory. It was, it was the greatest. It was the greatest sporting event anybody could ask for. I really think I can't name a greater sporting event in sports. Down 29 in game four of the NBA finals. I don't know where it goes on the level of like Patriots, Falcons, when Tom Brady was down 24 and they came back and won. It's like, it's so unfathomable. And that's what's so amazing about sports that when you ride or die for a team and you. The Knicks fucking sucked for so long now, by the way, Josh, if they don't fucking win this championship.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. It would be. It would be the Knicks be nixing.

[Ben]

It would be the Knicks being nixing, which is exactly what we were saying last night the whole time. We were like, so classic. We go up two. Oh, we're gonna lose in six. Like, that's just the Knicks. And yeah, it would be so Knicks to lose series in seven.

[Josh]

Can we lgg real quick?

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

All right, let's get gay. All right, let's talk about the celebrities. All right, so let's talk about these people. Court said. I mean, look in the. In the New York Post. And he is a epic, legendary troll of the highest order, and we love him for it. And God. God bless him, we love our Dave Portnoy. But Fortnoy savagely blasts each and every in quotes. This is his quote. Obnoxious. A lister on Nick Celebrity wrote, I hate them all. You know, it's funny coming from a Boston fan who are. Who are noted for their. Their, you know, ability in which to restrain themselves. But, yeah, I don't know. What do you think about all these celebrities? What do we think of the celebrities? Obviously, Queen Taylor was there. Larry David, Seinfeld. I can't tell you how many of my friends. I got three different people texting me going, the Sandman's there. I go, who is I? I had Chachi PD go. I said, celebrity. I was like, who's a celebrity whose nickname is Sandman? I'm like, thinking about Metallica, like, Enter the Sandman.

[Ben]

Mariano Rivera. Yeah, there's a lot.

[Josh]

I was like, what the fuck? And then I saw him there. I'm like. And I was like, oh, you're under the basket. Like, why don't you have better seats? And why didn't Scott have better seats? Scott Braun and Sydney Sweeney, like, it's wild.

[Ben]

It.

[Josh]

It's a lot. It's fun to watch. And yet I kind of feel like I'm mixed on my celebrity feelings about this finals. What do you feel?

[Ben]

I think that Game three, last game that I wasn't at was Ashanda DJ Khaled sitting front row on his phone texting like, the Manning Brothers. Like, this was Jeter. Jeter, who hasn't been to. I don't think he's been to Madison Square Garden in 30 years. Like, he lives.

[Josh]

He works for the Marlins.

[Ben]

Yeah, I. I just like. And I know he was A look. One of the most iconic Yankees of all time.

[Josh]

Yeah, the best.

[Ben]

It felt very, very, very fake. Fan. Celebrity Row, Game three, It just felt that way. You had Trump, who. Die Hard fan. You had Mamdani says he's a Die Hard fan. You're nowhere near the court.

[Josh]

Got really booed. That's.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

MSG, right? That's pretty wild.

[Ben]

I. I heard. I. I don't. I heard that. It was definitely mixed. I heard it sounded worse on TV than it was in person. But I'm sure. I'm sure he got booed like New Yorkers are. We'll get to the. We'll get to the end. But New Yorkers are. Are not shy about their feelings whatsoever. And when they disagree with something, they're loud. But that Game three was just. It was different Game four. These were Die Hard fucking fans. The. This Celebrity Row. Larry David, Die Hard. Like Jerry Seinfeld, Die Hard. Mariska Hargitay, Die Hard. She's a Die Hard fan. Taylor Swift, I think, is a Die Hard fan. I looked up. She went to Cleveland. She is. I'll tell you. Yeah, she went to Cleveland. Travis Kelce was there wearing a maroon hat for the Cavs. She was wearing black. And that's what you do in Cleveland when you don't want to root for the Cavs. That's what we just said about Celebrity Row, that you can't wear opposing fan gear. She wasn't wearing Cavs clothes. She showed up in. I thought it was super cool. Stevie Nicks, they made, like, cute, fun shirts. I don't know. I. I loved it all. I really did. Timothee Chalamet, Kylie, by the way, Kylie Jenner, She's a super fan. She's going to every fucking game, whether or not she's being dragged by him or not. At this point, it's a lot of games. I think that if I asked Claudia, who's a real fan, to go courtside every game, zero shot. She would go to one game, two games.

[Josh]

Every game on the road go.

[Ben]

Every job on the road. On the road, she'd go. Would Paige go on the road if

[Josh]

we didn't have three kids? Yeah.

[Ben]

Kylie has how many kids?

[Josh]

I know, but for celebrity, like, celebrities are different.

[Ben]

I guess I just like staff. I know. But it doesn't mean that you don't feel bad about it. Whatever. Just. It felt. It felt like Celebrity Row was well curated.

[Josh]

That's really, though. Like, what's the equation when you're that level of famous having, like two or three Kids, like, it's actually, like, negative one.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because literally, literally, much help. And, like, because of how much help you have.

[Ben]

Yeah. It just depends, like, how much time do you want to spend with them?

[Josh]

I don't even have a reliable babysitter. Like, we have an amazing family where, like, we can enlist her mom or dad or sometimes her sister maybe once a month, if that.

[Ben]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

For a nighttime thing, like, we really got to get. We got. We need a better network. We haven't seen each other in years.

[Ben]

You're going to love this, Josh. Last night, my dad, the great Brewster, watched Ruby sleep while we were at the Knicks game. And it's 8:45. The game has started.

[Josh]

Benjamin.

[Ben]

And he is. Benjamin is FaceTiming me.

[Josh]

Ruben's wheezing. There's a wheeze. Is this a snore or a wheeze? Benjamin, He's. He's grinning in his sleep. It's a door. He's melting me. Benjamin.

[Ben]

I wish it was that. It's Benjamin. I can't turn on the tv. I need help turning on the Nick game. I'm like, dad, I can't do this. Please call Maddie, my sister. Please call her. And then I feel bad for saying that to him. So I FaceTime him, and he's. Instead of showing me the TV, he's showing me himself. He's showing me himself. I can't see the tv. I'm at the Garden. I'm. I'm there. I'm there. Thank God he figured it out. And then it was this classic, beautiful text that he sends me. Come on, boys. Let's go. Towns that towns. Come on, boys. Let me. Let me read you. Let me read you what he texted me last night.

[Josh]

I love this cat. This cat is so good. I mean, I'm usually a dog person,

[Ben]

but I like cats.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. That. That's so wonderful that he watched the great Ruben while you guys were enjoying the game.

[Ben]

Yeah. He sent me a picture of Ruby and wrote, he's such a good boy. Then he said, what did AT&T pay for that commercial? Holy shit. That's what I'm talking about. Come on, boys. Who won?

[Josh]

Who won?

[Ben]

An agui. Yes, sir.

[Josh]

I can't get on the WI fi. I think I thought your toaster was a router.

[Ben]

Who won? I didn't even see that until now. I thought he was watching. Who won?

[Josh]

I found some things in the fridge. Were you gonna eat them?

[Ben]

I think on the way out to Claude, he's like, just so you know, I finished all of your pretzels.

[Josh]

If you see crumbs on the couch, it wasn't me. But it wasn't. Not me. What a dream. All right, so. So yes, Olivia Benson. All the usual suspects were there. And then you. They. They tore down the city. They. They. They attacked a cab. They beat up San Antonio fans. They're ripping down signs like, what's happening here, New York? Get it together.

[Ben]

I have going on somebody throwing an egg at Wemby. I was physically sick seeing that video. I almost get that guy.

[Josh]

They got him. No, I hope.

[Ben]

I hope so.

[Josh]

Who knows?

[Ben]

So bad. And like the Knicks fans, I'm praying that the Knicks win in five in San Antonio because otherwise still riot.

[Josh]

They're still going to go nuts.

[Ben]

But I think that they will. Like, I think that they think that we're in a Batman movie and this is Gotham. And I don't know why they celebrate by burning the city to the ground, but I really do think they're going to light fires. I don't know why, L.A. we're just

[Josh]

as guilty of it.

[Ben]

We left the arena and everybody is just. Our breath was taken away. Like, it was really just. Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. Oh, my God. What the fuck just happened? Let's go, Nicks. And then all of a sudden, you walk long enough and it starts to get scary. Like, guys are ripped and shirtless and they feel like. I can't explain it. Like, you just feel like you're going to be jumped and you're walking through it. You're weaving through, people are standing up on cars that aren't theirs, and it starts to feel scary and rowdy and you need to get out of there.

[Josh]

It's the difference between leaving the club at 1:38 or 2:38. Like, if you leave 22 minutes before it closes, it's, you got your Uber, you're on your way home, you're gonna have, like, really mid sex with someone who you have middling feelings about. And, like, and you both are gonna have chicken nugget breath. And if you go home at 2:28, you might not get home because a drunk douche might beat you up outside the club.

[Ben]

Yeah, you're in front of a hot dog cart, you're fucked. And that's. But you can't leave a Nick game. You can't leave the finals early. Imagine I left early. I had so many of my friends texting me, please tell me you stayed, because I do have an M.O. for leaving games. Regular season games, not playoff Games. But just like you, I would much rather leave at 1:38, get in my Uber and be home.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

But you couldn't leave that game. And we ran out as quickly as possible. I said to Claudia, if you weren't here, I would have sat in my seat until 2 in the morning. Yeah, I was. I was frozen in time. Yeah, like. Like what the fuck just happened? But this, as smart as she is, everybody's celebrating. We dart. We were probably the first ones out of the Garden, but we watched, we saw the whole thing. And still we ran into these crowds. Who, by the way? The people. You're right. Even if it's in Santon, San Antonio, it'll happen. None of the people celebrating were at the game, right? None of them. They're just waiting to celebrate.

[Josh]

Muffins.

[Ben]

They're ragamuffins. Yeah, ragamuffins. They're not even at the game. None of them.

[Josh]

Should we get to Woody and Nuts?

[Ben]

My Woody and Nuts moment of the week, Josh. I just have to say it again. Actually, no, I'm not going to say that because we just did. The fans. I was going to make it these rowdy Nick fans that are making us all look bad, but I'll do another one. My wedding units moment of the week are the people. There were six of them that were sitting behind us, Josh, that kept climbing over and making us stand up as they were leaving the section. You're not in my row. They did it at least 15 times. They'd enter in row, we would stand up. They'd climb up to the seat behind them because they didn't want to. They didn't want to inconvenience the people in their row. Instead, they're inconvenienced to the people in our row. What are you nuts? Stay in your own row. Stay in your own row. And I guess my secondary one, which we already talk about, is the guy throwing an egg at Wemby. What are you nuts? It's a more serious one. But don't make us Knicks fan. Look, Knicks fans look bad. We've waited 50 fucking years for this. Don't be a scumbag. Idiot. Asshole. You're not important. You're not important. You're not. You're a fan.

[Josh]

Suck.

[Ben]

I don't even think you're a fan. If you're throwing eggs at a player, you are intending to cause harm. You are chaotic. It's that same idiot that ran on the court during game one to take a selfie with Wemby. You're Not a fan. You're a clout chasing idiot. What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Couldn't agree with you more. And while I'm against cruel and unusual punishment, I am for unusual punishment. Hear me out. I don't like cruel. So I think what they do is right. We don't take them to jail. They go get the guy threw an egg at Wemby, they hold him in front of everyone, right? They hold his arms back and they go, Wemby. You get one punch right in the gut, right? You knock, he gets the wind knocked out of him from a frickin 8 foot wingspan from Wemby. He's never doing that again. Never.

[Ben]

I like that. What I thought you were going to say that I like more is we tie his hands behind his back and we give Wemby a dozen eggs. Yeah. And Wemby just goes whales, whales, whales on him.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, we give him. No, we give him the 18 pack of eggs from, from Costco. I.

[Ben]

The 18 pack is killer. And eye for an eye. We need to bring that back.

[Josh]

My Woody Nuts is speaking of Wemby and the great country of France. Shout out. France has bands in. What do you mean? They have banned nicotine pouches. Hey, France. What are you nuts? You smoke the most.

[Ben]

The most. The most.

[Josh]

So smoking school, nicotine pouches and nicotine alternatives, not cool. Now, granted, I get it. Smoking is way cooler than Zinning. Like if smoking is Michael Jordan, then Zinning is me playing at LA Fitness, but still. What are you nuts? You're banning Zinn. That's my, that's my gripe.

[Ben]

This is. It's a great gripe. And this is where you start to think to yourself, are you banning Zinn because it's not good for people? Or are you banning Zinn because you are paid so much money by the tobacco companies and they feel that it's infringing on their profits. Like, France is so pro cigarettes, right? So pro nicotine. So the. It must be like a lobbying thing. It has to be. It's not because it's more or less healthy. It's just as bad. Just as bad. So great. What are you nuts? Folks, this episode's five stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts watched on Spotify, the video is fantastic. The 4K 8K. I don't know what K, but it's fantastic. Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the same Premium Wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying. It's not just for celebrities. So do like I did and have one of your assistants assistance. Switch you to Mint Mobile today. I'm told it's super easy to [e-mail]

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