This Episode is CURSED with Jackie O!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – "This Episode is CURSED with Jackie O!"

Episode Information:

• Title: Good Guys
• Host/Authors: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer (Dear Media)
• Guest: Jackie O. (Sister-in-law, Co-host of the Toast Podcast)
• Release Date: December 12, 2024
• Description: Hosted by actor & writer Josh Peck and entrepreneur & social media icon Ben Soffer, "Good Guys" delivers engaging conversations every Monday and Thursday. In this particularly "cursed" episode, the trio navigates a series of mishaps and lighthearted topics with their special guest, Jackie O.

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1. A "Cursed" Episode Begins ([00:15] - [01:08])

The episode kicks off with Ben Soffer humorously labeling it as "cursed," citing their third attempt at recording within three days. Josh Peck and Ben emphasize their commitment despite technical glitches and unforeseen challenges.

Notable Quote:

• Ben Soffer ([00:24]): "This is a cursed episode. We're gonna get into it, but this episode is cursed."

2. Ben's Travel Woes and Time Management Failures ([01:08] - [04:27])

Ben shares a harrowing travel experience involving a missed flight with United Airlines, resulting in a nine-hour delay and exorbitant last-minute ticket prices. The discussion delves into the importance of time management, especially when adhering to airline policies.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Soffer ([01:46]): "If you're gonna leave early, this needs to be part of the conversation that there is a chance that we could leave 10 minutes early."
• Josh Peck ([02:50]): "I couldn't be more bullish with policies."

3. The Trend of Children's Names ([04:27] - [07:10])

The hosts discuss the resurgence of classic and royal names for children, critiquing modern superhero influences and the lack of inclusivity in contemporary naming conventions. Jackie shares her thoughts on names like Odin, Juno, and Enos, expressing concerns over potential teasing.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Peck ([02:03]): "Plus size superheroes. There's no inclusion with superheroes."
• Jackie O. ([05:36]): "Enos is no good. That's not a name."

4. Secret Santa Fiasco and Gift-Giving Stories ([09:03] - [11:06])

Ben recounts a failed Secret Santa attempt where he mistakenly sent an irrelevant Cameo message to his sister-in-law, Margot. The group discusses the pitfalls of Personalized gifts like Cameos and the value of traditional gift-giving.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Soffer ([09:26]): "I thought a cameo would be a really creative Secret Santa gift."
• Jackie O. ([10:22]): "No, nobody remembers what you bought after the fact."

5. Cameo Experiences and Critiques ([11:06] - [14:19])

The conversation shifts to the use of Cameo, with the hosts sharing mixed experiences. Josh criticizes the superficiality of some Cameo messages, while Jackie expresses discomfort watching them, highlighting the impersonal nature of such interactions.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Peck ([12:17]): "Cameo has given us some of the most iconic moments."
• Jackie O. ([13:14]): "Do never get me a cameo, please."

6. Jackie O.'s Performance at the Hard Rock Seminole Casino ([18:33] - [25:14])

Jackie discusses her experiences performing at large venues like the Hard Rock Seminole Casino, contrasting her on-stage persona with her everyday life. The hosts commend her ability to balance her public and private personas and touch upon the steady growth of their own podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• Jackie O. ([19:24]): "I feel like I'm a rock star. And then I just go back home."
• Jackie O. ([20:18]): "It's brick by brick, which has made for a much more solid foundation."

7. Podcast Growth and Personal Life Updates ([25:14] - [30:08])

The hosts reflect on the gradual but steady growth of their podcast, emphasizing sustainability over viral bursts. Jackie shares personal news about her sister Claudia’s pregnancy, expressing excitement and support for the expanding family.

Notable Quotes:

• Jackie O. ([21:38]): "I'm so excited to see Claudia as a mom."
• Ben Soffer ([25:14]): "We spend a lot of time in Florida, and we will always spend a lot of time in Florida."

8. Listener Call-ins: Speak Pipe Segments ([33:12] - [55:58])

The episode features multiple listener stories and questions from the "Speak Pipe" segment. Topics range from the prevalence of fake orgasms, a sheriff's deputy turning to pornography for extra income, intrusive Secret Santa practices, and concerns about gift-giving protocols.

Notable Quotes:

• Josh Peck ([33:10]): "A new study revealed why women are more likely than men to fake orgasms."
• Ben Soffer ([37:03]): "I think she's just got a pick. It is a little bit odd."
• Jackie O. ([44:15]): "They also call in with a bunch of crap."

9. Final Segments: "What Are You Nuts?" Moments ([57:12] - [63:44])

In the concluding part, Josh, Ben, and Jackie share their respective "What are you nuts?" moments—pet peeves and humorous grievances about everyday annoyances, including airline customer service and misunderstandings over terminology.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Soffer ([57:38]): "Traveling is hard enough. I'm out two grand."
• Jackie O. ([60:16]): "What are you nuts? That you think I would come into your room and say I just made a birthday loaf."

10. Closing Remarks and Promotions ([63:44] - [64:22])

The hosts wrap up the episode with shoutouts to Jackie's Redheads Book Club and promotions for their own products, emphasizing community engagement and future content.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Soffer ([63:23]): "Happy holidays."
• Jackie O. ([63:33]): "Check out my children's book, the Camper and the Counselor."

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Conclusion: In this episode of "Good Guys," Josh Peck and Ben Soffer, alongside guest Jackie O., navigate a series of personal anecdotes, listener interactions, and lighthearted discussions. Despite technical challenges labeled as a "cursed" episode, the trio maintains a humorous and engaging dialogue, offering insights into time management, naming trends, gift-giving dilemmas, and the intricacies of podcast growth. The inclusion of listener call-ins adds depth and relatability, while the final segments provide a comedic closure to the episode's varied topics.

Overall Notable Moment:

• Ben Soffer ([57:38]): "Traveling is hard enough. I'm out two grand."

Listener Engagement: The "Speak Pipe" segment fosters a connection with listeners by addressing real-life questions and stories, enhancing the podcast's community feel.

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Remember: For those who haven't listened, this episode offers a blend of humor, personal stories, and relatable discussions, all anchored by the dynamic chemistry between Josh Peck, Ben Soffer, and Jackie O.

Transcript

[Josh Peck]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm Josh Peck.

[Ben Soffer]

And I'm Ben Soffer. And we're the Good Guys.

[Josh Peck]

There's a lot of guys out there.

[Ben Soffer]

And we're the good ones.

[Josh Peck]

Mazda morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with someone who was working at McDonald's yesterday in Pennsylvania. It's Ben Soffer.

[Ben Soffer]

And I am sitting here with an absolute queen, Jackie, my sister in law, co host of the Toast podcast seller outer of the Hard Rock Seminole Casino for girly swirlies night out. Jackie, thank you so much for joining us. For the third time in three days, this is a cursed episode. We're gonna get into it, but this episode is cursed. I don't know what's gonna go wrong. The ceiling's gonna fall. The building's gonna crash. Your house is gonna light on fire. Josh, I don't know what's gonna happen with you. You did just have a hot coffee, so who knows?

[Josh Peck]

I just pour it on my head.

[Ben Soffer]

Something's gonna go wrong.

[Jackie]

Is cursed. But third time's the charm, I feel strongly. So, Ben, why don't you share with everyone why this is our third stab at the GGs, the guise of good.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, I mean, you guys probably saw on Friday, I had just a treacherous travel day. On Friday. I showed up to the airport. Look, was I a little late? Sure. Was I too late? No. They closed the gates 15 minutes before I was there, 20 minutes before me and a couple of other elderly folks going to South Florida. We were all turned away at the gate by United Airlines. United Airlines. And then that just turned into a, I don't know, nine hour travel day. Then we tried to podcast yesterday, the podcast that Josh was at, they crashed. Okay? Crashed and burned. And so now we're here. Third time's the charm, right?

[Jackie]

Yes. Happy to be here. I actually the good guys comes up a lot in my everyday life, unfortunately. And I wonder if Josh, if you have the same experience, because, like, my son is really obsessed with superheroes, and he's always like, are those the good guys? These are the good guys. We're the good guys. And I'm like, you're literally Ben and Josh. Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Wow. That. First of all, Marvel, Kevin Feige, get on it. Plus size superheroes. There's no inclusion with superheroes. Well, what is going on here are.

[Jackie]

A pack of superheroes. Like, the phrase good guys is just such a big phrase when you're a child. Like, the good guys and the bad guys. And so I'm literally always Talking about the good guys and really showering you guys with so much praise.

[Josh Peck]

First of all, I really appreciate it, and I. Jackie, I'm dying to know when it comes to Ben's Travel Follies. Agreed. Yes. If you're gonna leave early, this needs to be part of the conversation that there is a chance that we could leave 10 minutes early. A. We must know this. But, but, but this guy left too late. Now he's leaving way too late.

[Jackie]

1,000%. I feel like when you set your departure time, it should always be, like, a little earlier than it needs to be, because you're going to be later than that. So by the time you actually leave, it would be like the on time departure. So if you set your departure time for the on time departure, and then you're a little later than that, then you are late, my friend.

[Ben Soffer]

So what you're saying is that this is a cursed episode because I have poor time management. Is that right?

[Jackie]

Well, that wouldn't explain, like, why the Internet wouldn't let us, like, why they were censoring us yesterday and we couldn't, like, see or speak to Josh. So your part, your half to blame, but the rest is actually out of your hands.

[Ben Soffer]

Is the universe. Okay, all right, I'll take part of the blame. All I'm saying is that if you're going to have a policy that you close the doors 15 minutes before, that's when you close the doors. Otherwise, don't announce the policy to me at all. There should be no policy. I need a policy.

[Jackie]

It's crazy, but sometimes flights take off early. It never happens, but, like, it should be a good thing and it should be encouraged that they, like, got everyone out the door earlier than expected yet for all the delays, I totally agree.

[Ben Soffer]

But then shouldn't the policy, Jackie, be that the doors closed 30 minutes before just in case you take off early? I'm just looking to adhere to the policy. Whatever the policy is, I will adhere to it.

[Josh Peck]

Peter, policy over here.

[Ben Soffer]

I think that if you're gonna say that it closes 15 minutes before and you close it 20 minutes before and leave me, Shlomo, and Rivka at the door, it's like we were left at Noah's Ark, these two alter cockers. We were left. We were left, and now we'll never have a chance to breed.

[Josh Peck]

So true. I agree. I couldn't be more bullish with policies. And I couldn't agree more. You know me, I'm regulation Ralph over here. The more regulation, the better. But speaking of Shlomo and Rivka. You know, there are these old Jewish names. Mish. You know what I mean?

[Ben Soffer]

Yes.

[Josh Peck]

They don't seem to be making their way back into the current vernacular, but there are old school names. And, Jackie, I'd love to hear your opinion about this, because I know you got your ear to the playground streets the other day. I'm at the playground, and I'm on the east side of la, which is like, Williamsburg. It's very hipstery. And I hear these names, and I wrote them down because this is an early. What, are you nuts? Because I just said these names did not need to come back. They needed to be forgotten. First one, Odin. Oh, Din. Odin. Second name, Second name, Juno. Okay, Juno. Not Anchorage. Juno. Third one and final, Enos. Penis.

[Ben Soffer]

Oh, sounds like penis.

[Jackie]

It sounds like four letter names are what's trending, but also like, what's old is new. Again, I just saw, like, a meme that was like, you know, it used to be a few years ago, it's like Ashton, and now it's like Martha. Martha's at the playground. Martha and Theodore.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

But Theo is cute. You can do a good Theo.

[Ben Soffer]

I. Enos is bad. Jackie. Enos is no good. That's not a name.

[Josh Peck]

Because you're either getting anus or penis.

[Jackie]

Or weenus or weenus.

[Ben Soffer]

The back of the forgotten elbow.

[Josh Peck]

People fucking learn shit on this podcast. This is educational.

[Ben Soffer]

Enos. That's bad. That means that, like, you just, like, have no respect for your. Your child. Like, you want them to be made fun of. That's bad. No good. It's like my grandfather, his real birth name was Isadore, but he refused to go by Isador. Made everybody call him William or Bill, because Isadore just was no good. His parents clearly didn't love him.

[Jackie]

No, but like Isadore to Izzy, Pipeline is really cute. There's a lot you could. Dora, you know, William. Who the. What?

[Ben Soffer]

I think that we. You have to remember this was 1912, so maybe Isadore then wasn't the poppin name that it could be. Now. Going into Izzy, maybe he didn't want to be Izzy. Yeah, I think William was a strong. William's always been a strong name, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Peck]

So, Jackie, with your beautiful children, did you purposely go slightly royal with their names?

[Jackie]

Well, I went classic, but then the royals also do go classic, so then the names also gear towards royal. But like Harry. I love the name Harry. My grandpa was Harold, so it's not because I'm a Prince Harry fan, whatsoever. But it's just a coincidence that I have, like, similar taste as Queen Elizabeth and Princess Diana. Because we're a bunch of queens who like a classic name. So, like, they. The royal and classic name Venn diagram is just a circle. And I did Harry, and then Charles is also a classic name, but yet now, like, Harry and Charles? Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

No, Josh, they are so royal, these children. Like, Jackie. I don't know if you spoke about it, like, they went to the. Harry went to the ballet this weekend. And when I tell you he looked like a young prince, she had him in this, like. I don't even know what you call it, Jackie.

[Jackie]

Like, it's called, like, a Peter Pan collar. He's a collared shirt, but it's not like a collar, like, with eight with corners. It's like round edge collars. It's like a Peter Pan collar.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah. Something you'd wear to a dojo.

[Ben Soffer]

It's the Queen's gift shop. Like, I don't know where you get this, but, like, your majesty.com kids.

[Jackie]

Which, by the way, I just want to say the Buckingham Palace Royal Gift shop online store is unbelievable. That's not where I got those outfits. But, like, oh, my God, the best of the best. They have, like cookies, chocolates, tea wares, apr, like, every. If you wanna get, like, a nice gift for someone, especially in your life, who, like, this sounds up their alley, that's where you gotta go.

[Ben Soffer]

Do they have things under $100, Jackie?

[Jackie]

Yes. Yes, they do. You could get, like, biscuits.

[Ben Soffer]

Okay, I'm asking because, Josh, every year these Jews do a Secret Santa, and we can't share who we got. But the Secret Santa is under 100.

[Jackie]

Names were drawn last night. Everyone's talking about it without sharing who they have.

[Ben Soffer]

And I don't know if you heard, Josh, but last year, I. I really fumbled the ball. I got.

[Jackie]

Have you told this story?

[Ben Soffer]

I don't know if I've told this story. Have I told you this story, Josh?

[Josh Peck]

No, tell me.

[Jackie]

It's really shameful.

[Ben Soffer]

I don't know if it'll translate. I'll do my best. I thought I was being creative, okay? I thought a cameo would be a really creative Secret Santa gift. We'd all sit around, we'd all watch it together, and unfortunately, I mixed up the sisters. And who likes what? Reality star.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, no.

[Ben Soffer]

So I got Frank from the Real Housewives of New Jersey to leave Margot a cameo. Like, mentioning to her, like, hey, I'm single if you want to party.

[Jackie]

Like, Margot has no idea who Frank Catania is. She's never heard that name. He could come up to her in the street and punch her in the face and she wouldn't ever know. Like she doesn't watch Real Housewives of anything. And he's not even a housewife. He's like someone's ex husband. It was the craziest thing.

[Ben Soffer]

And the worst part, the worst part is I knew even adhere to the rules, I overpaid for Frank Catania. He was. He was 199.

[Josh Peck]

Oh my God. And he's only getting 150 of that.

[Ben Soffer]

No good.

[Jackie]

So. And you spent the rest of the trip like buying her gifts in town way over the price point to like make up for it. But nobody remembers what you bought after the fact. We only remember Frank Catania.

[Ben Soffer]

No, I literally spent $1,000 on that trip buying her ski goggles and sweaters. And like I felt fucking terrible. That said, I did just get her on Amazon live for our fake Secret Santa. And I got her literally the nicest gifts. I got her a pink helmet, I got her matching pink goggles for skiing. And I got her a life sized dog bed where her and Magnolia can.

[Jackie]

Lay together because they can't do it on her bed.

[Ben Soffer]

No life size dog bed. Pretty good, right?

[Jackie]

Pretty good.

[Josh Peck]

Does that come with an inhaler? Sleeping in the dog bed. That's nuts. That's nuts.

[Jackie]

Nuts. The rule for this year is no cameos. Which I think is a good rule for like a gift exchange like that.

[Ben Soffer]

I agree. Josh. Do you guys do Secret Santa?

[Josh Peck]

We do, but I'm more, you know, cameo is my line in the sand. Like if you see me on cameo, I relapsed. Like I need drug money and.

[Jackie]

No.

[Josh Peck]

And I've done plenty of sellout shit. You know, I'll go hock a new vaccine for Pfizer tomorrow. I don't give a shit.

[Ben Soffer]

But cameos, my line, that's where you draw the line.

[Josh Peck]

And but it's interesting, right, because like how quickly who else was on there. Like was Gypsy Rose quick. I know Matt Gaetz, the day he got kicked out of Congress was on. Was on Cameo.

[Jackie]

Santos was doing. Was big on Cameo Santos too. I mean, are you still on Cameo? You are you still on Cameo?

[Ben Soffer]

No, I am no longer on Cameo since I heard that it is degrading. So no, I'm off Cameo.

[Jackie]

No, I did Cameo for a while too. But no, that's just not how I want to spend my time anymore.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm off Cameo. That said, I could go back on Cameo and do George Soros cameos for.

[Jackie]

You could do the ones he had. George Santos.

[Ben Soffer]

Santos. Santos. Sorry.

[Jackie]

The ones that are expiring, Ben will do at a discount.

[Josh Peck]

We all know where Ben's mind is. That's funny. Yeah, man. The cameo of it all, it was fascinating because I actually think that if you take time and do a two, three minute cameo and you really talk to the person, I think that's great. I remember when Caitlyn Jenner first went on and hers were upwards of $1,000 to $2,000. I was like, let me see what you're getting for all this money. And it was just basically Caitlin going, happy birthday, Annie. See you later. Like, you know what?

[Jackie]

Worth it.

[Josh Peck]

I was like, can I get a little something else, Caitlin?

[Jackie]

That is so funny. I actually stopped doing cameos when it, like, just takes a lot of your, like, battery. Your mental, like, social battery. But more so because I received a few cameos. And the way I felt watching a cameo for me, like, is so painful that I just never want to make anyone feel that way. I hate watching. Do never get me a cameo, please, from even my favorite person on earth. Like, I don't know why I cannot watch it.

[Ben Soffer]

It's funny that you bring that up. You kind of feel like a big loser watching it, right?

[Jackie]

Big loser. Oh, my God. Someone got me one from, like, Daymond John. He was, like, talking about my presets and how he's, like, so proud of me. Seriously unwatchable.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, you feel like a big loser. You're like, I can't just, like, meet this person in real life. So somebody needs to give them a script to make me feel like I know them.

[Josh Peck]

Like, are they from the teleprompter on their phone? Hello? Jackie.

[Ben Soffer]

Jackie. Oh.

[Jackie]

However, cameo has given us some of the most iconic moments. Like, I'm sure you guys remember. Who's that guy? I'm not going to remember his name, but he did a video wishing someone a happy Hanukkah. Oh, Smokey Robinson. Yeah, someone a happy Hanukkah. And he said, happy Chanooka.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, that was good. Happy Chinooka is good. That's good. I remember that.

[Josh Peck]

How much good? How many cameos do you think she would get if Taylor Swift went on cameo and charged $100,000 per cameo?

[Jackie]

A million cameos. Think about how much people paid for her tickets. Like, these swifties got money to burn.

[Josh Peck]

100 grand per.

[Ben Soffer]

Especially those like Dubai Swifties, which there are a ton of them. Like, she would be raking it in. In the UAE at 100 grand. A cameo. 100? I think she would actually get a thousand.

[Josh Peck]

Not bad. Not.

[Olivia]

No.

[Ben Soffer]

Something to consider, Ms. Swift. Something to consider.

[Olivia]

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[Ben Soffer]

Speaking of ladies performing at arenas, Jackie the Hard rock seminal Josh. 7000 seats, swirlies and toasters going wild. I just wanted to know, Jackie, what's that like talk to. I don't know if you talk about it on the toast at all.

[Jackie]

We like don't really talk about what it feels like.

[Ben Soffer]

What does it feel like?

[Jackie]

Well, it's so much what we say in this show, which is true. It's so much fun. We love podcasting. To then do it in front of people as opposed to just in a room in my house. It's so rewarding and you really feel the magnitude of the job. But it's just so crazy for me because it's like I literally feel like I'm a rock star. And it's like then I just like go back home and you know, in changing diapers and taking out the trash and making bread and it's like I really feel like I get this like taste of. I feel it's like two different people, you know?

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, it's very Hannah Montana.

[Jackie]

I wonder if that's Two such extremes like, that just like, my. My life is, like, very quiet and, like, normal, and then, like, I'm singing on stage in front of thousands of people with my horrible voice, and it's so crazy to me that I get to do that.

[Ben Soffer]

It really is crazy. But it's amazing, and the show is amazing, and I would tell people to buy tickets, but it's not going to happen for quite some time, so.

[Jackie]

No, it's not.

[Ben Soffer]

If you missed it, you missed it.

[Jackie]

These Chiznos are a moment in time whenever we announce one, like, run. Because you never know, it might be the last or at least the last for a year.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah. But, yeah, it was amazing, Josh. You got to come to the next one.

[Josh Peck]

I can't wait. I would. I would love to know, Jackie, what did it feel like? Because you're in it and you are a part of it. When was there, like, a tipping point, a moment where the podcast went from big to massive, that you could really feel?

[Jackie]

No, and I also think that, like, because it's not been like that, that's a big reason for our success, where it's not like, overnight it ever just blew up, like, every single day for the last seven years. It's like, one step forward. There's not been a giant leap. Like, we'll have some episodes that perform a little better than others, but from our highest listen to episode to our lowest, there's really, like, not that huge of a difference. It's really been brick by brick, which, of course, is frustrating. You see people, like, it feels frustrating because you see people have, like, overnight success, like, viral moments, and it's like podcast number one on the charts. Boom, boom, boom. But that's really hard to sustain, but people are able to. And that's just a testament to, like, how they are right for the job. But a lot of people aren't able to sustain that. So because there's never been, like, one moment that we feel like we're always trying to chase and, like, replicate. It has made for a much more, like, solid foundation, though. Like, you know, a little more boring sounding.

[Josh Peck]

I love it. No, I think it's so impressive, and I feel like I have some questions on behalf of the toasters, but so please. But, you know, everyone, you know, has their own. Everyone has their personal lives. So I want to be respectful so you can say no comment. What was it? First of all, what is it like knowing that your. Your beautiful sister is now pregnant with her Bashar?

[Jackie]

It is so, so exciting. I'm so excited for Claudia And Ben and like to see her as a mom. She's the most amazing aunt. She's literally just like the funniest, most loving, most warm person and she's like destined for this and she's going to be so amazing and I look forward to like seeing how she does it and like learning from her too, you know?

[Ben Soffer]

Mm, so sweet. If only she could hear. She'll listen.

[Jackie]

Maybe we should clip this and send it to her.

[Ben Soffer]

She, she would have loved that.

[Jackie]

But I'm excited to see how she do things, does things. I love learning from like other moms and hearing people's like philosophies on parenthood and I feel like she's going to have like so many like funny, strong opinions but like just great practices and I learn from her like every day. That's actually something that I didn't even realize and I'm very excited to like see how she does things and, and maybe take some inspo from her.

[Josh Peck]

Ben, was Jackie the first call? One of the first calls?

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, Jackie was the first call. And her reaction, like for those that haven't seen it, you gotta go to Jackie's patreon to find it. But it was an amazing reaction. Everybody. What I love, like we really took our time with this, right? Like we've been together for 12 years, married for seven years, did it on our terms. There was no pressure from family. And because of that everybody was so shocked. Like when we told Jackie, she was shocked. When my parents found out, they were shocked because it wasn't like it just wasn't expected necessarily. And I'm very thankful that nobody really put pressure on us because it allowed us to do it at like when it was right for us. But yeah, it was amazing. Jackie's reaction was unbelievable.

[Jackie]

No, I'm just, I'm so happy for TRD and Ben and for our whole family. It's just gonna be so amazing for the whole family.

[Ben Soffer]

And Claude really is like the most hands on aunt. It's true. And she loves, I know you know how much she loves your kids, Jackie. But like I don't even think you do. Like we're literally on the plane yesterday and she's showing me videos of Harry.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

As if they're her children. Like it really is. And videos that I've seen. Like cogers, you're beautiful. Like nonstop cogers, you're beautiful. Of course she's showing the video where Harry calls her beautiful. Like yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, like it's a little self involved.

[Jackie]

But no And I also feel like so often, like, aunts and uncles have so much energy for their nieces and nephews because it's, like, a finite amount of time, you know, and it's easy to be, like, so much fun for one hour, but one Claudia's with me so long, and, like, she always keeps up that energy, and I know that's exactly how she's going to be as a mom. So, like, to see someone do that, I really, like, I can't wait. And I can't wait to benefit because she's just, like. She's always singing and dancing and, like, having fun and, like, making fun, like, enriching opportunities for my kids. And now she's going to be doing that all the time. And I'm excited to, like, just, you know, tag along and.

[Josh Peck]

How long do you think until Ben and Claudia moved to Florida?

[Jackie]

This is the most asked question. And I really don't think they are moving to Florida. Like, they have. And also, what's so funny is, like, the, like, I could see a picture of a house that's, like, oh, my God, that warms. That's where I need to live. And, like, Claudia could see the same house and, like, does nothing for her. And then, like, she's looking at a picture of, like, a condo or something, and she's like, this is the dream. I'm like, that's so funny that that's your dream, because, like, that does nothing for me. So, like, we really are so different in terms of, like, living environment, like, ideal living environments. And they have said they don't want to move here, and I know that they mean it, and I also know that that's, like, what's right for them. So they are probably not moving here, But I do look forward to seeing, like, what you guys do, where you guys do it, even if it's still in the city. Like, that's awesome. And I'm excited to, like, see how you do it.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah. And, like, we spend a lot of time in Florida, and we will always spend a lot of time in Florida, and.

[Josh Peck]

But it's a totally. It's a new life with kids, right? Like, yeah, it's. And your requirements, your needs will adjust, and maybe it won't lead you towards suburbia, but it makes it. It makes it easier in the interim or in. Especially in that period of time when you have young kids.

[Jackie]

Yeah, maybe they do wind up in the burbs, but I don't think it's going to be Florida. I mean, like, 99% don't like, serious. Almost 100% sure they're not moving to Florida. Even if they move, what do we have? Right, Ben?

[Ben Soffer]

Agreed. North Carolina, Virginia, I would love. By the way, I was recently in South Carolina. We should all move to South Carolina. This is like, such, like, a fun, cute town. We put down, like, plant our flag. We'll bring in all the Jews.

[Josh Peck]

Yes.

[Jackie]

And that's.

[Ben Soffer]

And then nobody will want to be there anymore.

[Jackie]

I'm excited to see where you end up. I'm down for whatever. I'm down to move. I like change. So, yeah, you guys, let's see what happens.

[Ben Soffer]

I think that for us, it's like, besides you, family is here and we're going to need. We're going to need my parents to help, and they've been so helpful with. I know dogs are totally different, but they would take Theo for two weeks and just. I'm looking forward to their help with, God willing, newborn. So, yeah, poopoo. That's a factor too. That's a factor too.

[Josh Peck]

Baruch hashem. God willing.

[Ben Soffer]

Poop. Poopoo. I love it.

[Josh Peck]

I love how the Jews have superstition, like, down pat. It just must be because we're fearful. We're always looking over our shoulder, whether it's real people or spirits.

[Ben Soffer]

I think we're just realists. I think we just know, like, things. Things. Not everything in life is roses. And so we do our best to navigate.

[Jackie]

And maybe we take it to an extreme, but, like, the other side takes it to an extreme too, in terms of, like, their, like, the craziness that they do in not being superstitious.

[Ben Soffer]

Totally. Just like, being all roses, which is also me in, like, my daily life, though. I'm like an all roses guy. So it's funny that, like, yeah, I don't know. We are spooky.

[Jackie]

It's in our DNA.

[Ben Soffer]

We are spooky. You want to talk about spooky? This episode comes out on Thursday, but Friday, It's Friday the 13th.

[Jackie]

So actually Friday the 13th is not spooky for me because fun fact, it's Colgate day. I went to colgate uniform and 13 is like a big number in the school's lore. Like, 13 men discovered it with, like 13 pennies and 13 prayers. And everything about Colgate is the number 13 and Friday the 13th are Colgate days. Like, the address of the school is like 13 Oak Drive. Like every. It's very Taylor Swift coded. The color is actually of the school is maroon. She should have went there. So Friday the 13th are actually very Exciting. In my community.

[Josh Peck]

Mm.

[Ben Soffer]

Josh, I don't know if you know, but Jackie is like an alumni celebrity. Like, she.

[Jackie]

I mean, it was a salvation.

[Ben Soffer]

They love her.

[Jackie]

It's a really small.

[Ben Soffer]

I went to a small school too, and the yeshiva people could give two shits that I went there. Nobody's calling me.

[Jackie]

Why do you want.

[Josh Peck]

Are there any big celebrities that came out of yeshiva? Like some chabad rebbe who's spreading the word?

[Ben Soffer]

For sure, probably. And me and a chabad rebbe and a ton of dentists. A ton. And a ton of lawyers.

[Josh Peck]

The Yeshiva university is like. And Lin Manuel Miranda grew up near us. Like, he wasn't even an alumni.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah. No. And they also really screw you. I don't know if I've ever spoken about this, but they split the campus into boys and girls. They put the girls on 34th and Park. Josh. They put the boys on 185th in Amsterdam. You talk about getting robbed. Robbed blind.

[Josh Peck]

So good.

[Ben Soffer]

So, yeah. Jackie's a local celeb at Colgate, which I had the pleasure of visiting once. That was a fun weekend.

[Jackie]

It was. It's a fun time. Good times were had.

[Ben Soffer]

They were. That was like, literally another lifetime ago.

[Olivia]

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[Ben Soffer]

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[Ben Soffer]

I would love to. Yes. Jackie. Weird news. That's what we do. Weird news.

[Jackie]

Love weird news.

[Josh Peck]

Well, this is a strong one to start with. A majority of women do fake orgasms, but their reasons for doing so vary. Study reveals fake it till you make it does not apply here. A new study revealed why women are more likely than men to fake orgasms as well as why they won't keep it up forever. Researchers analyze data submitted by 11,000 respondents from six European countries and the findings showed that around 13% of men fake them, while 28% of women are currently faking them and up to 51% have had to in the past. And let's see. Why are they pretending? What's going on?

[Jackie]

Yeah. What are their reasons that are so varied? Well, everyone's got their reasons.

[Josh Peck]

We found that being a woman, having more lifetime or having more lifetime sexual partners and having children was associated with higher odds of faking orgasms. They also discovered that a person's relationship status and whether or not this is naughty, whether or not. I know it's the New York Post fault. Whether or not a toy will also played a role in the canoodling was. Yeah. Anyway, let's move on.

[Jackie]

No. Did you repeat the first half of that sentence with having children? I didn't compete.

[Josh Peck]

I think it was just like it basically said that if you have children depending on your relationship's status but being a woman or having children. So I guess that applies to either. Or was like more. You were more inclined to fake it. You had a higher odd of faking it at times. I guess because you're just exhausted, want it to be over. But it's really interesting. I mean I will say as a man, I have faked it once and it needed to happen.

[Ben Soffer]

I was just going to say I don't understand how. I guess unless you're like trapped. I've never heard of a guy ever faking it. Like that's like such like a crazy.

[Jackie]

It's more logistically difficult.

[Ben Soffer]

It's more logistically difficult. For sure.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, for sure. But I just ran to the bathroom after. I was like, oh goodness, I don't want to get a uti. No, I don't want to.

[Jackie]

That's funny.

[Josh Peck]

Olivia, any thoughts? You don't have to have an opinion on this, Olivia. By the way, the thing that I.

[Michelle]

Got from that Article was it sounded like if you've had more sex then the likelihood of faking it is higher just based on probability.

[Jackie]

Well, that's your odds. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Michelle]

That's what I gathered from that.

[Josh Peck]

That's all I'm saying.

[Jackie]

And that's like, thank you, Captain Obvious, New York Post for your genius study.

[Ben Soffer]

And that's that on that.

[Josh Peck]

All right, good story, Josh.

[Ben Soffer]

Do we have enough? Do we have another story perhaps?

[Josh Peck]

Okay, you asked. Desperate sheriff's deputy takes to porn for cash but resigns when her raunchy double life is exposed A Colorado sheriff's deputy resigned this week after officials learned she'd appeared in pornographic videos. A second career she took out of desperation over mounting bills. Shannon, a 21 year veteran of the sheriff's office, said she turned to adult cinema because her finances had soured and she couldn't keep up. I was desperate, drowning. I found a legal lucrative means for providing that support for my family that I needed at that time to save my home and to feed my family. But the sheriff's office began an internal investigation with the agency learned and they said that she was not allowed to work there anymore. Thoughts?

[Jackie]

Well, we should be paying our sheriffs more.

[Josh Peck]

Mm.

[Jackie]

But there are other things that you can do for money.

[Ben Soffer]

Yes, I agree with you. That said, this seems to be a very lucrative industry. I read, or I think I read an article I saw Stephen A. Smith talking about how only fans, like the top OnlyFans creators are making more money than all of the top NBA contracts. Like more than LeBron? More than like OnlyFans is a more lucrative industry than the NBA with people making upwards of $100 million a year in some cases. So like, the thing is, I think she's just got a pick. It is a little bit odd to me that she wants to be or not wants to be. I understand she did it for her family, needs to be a porn star, but still wants to be a sheriff. Like just, if you're gonna do porn, be a porn star. That's cool.

[Josh Peck]

No shade.

[Ben Soffer]

Not everyone be a sheriff.

[Josh Peck]

Not everyone is a starter on the Lakers of only fans. You know, I'm saying some people are playing on the D league, my boy. Some people are just making getting by doing what they love and they signed it.

[Jackie]

How did one of her employ, like a better question?

[Ben Soffer]

They won't say.

[Josh Peck]

I checked. Nobody's talking.

[Ben Soffer]

It doesn't even make any sense.

[Jackie]

The real question, like, did she walk.

[Ben Soffer]

In with her sheriff's uniform and sheriff's hat and she Had a fan.

[Jackie]

She had a fan. And someone found her because they were.

[Ben Soffer]

I guess. But they were also pulled over by her. Like, speeding. Like, how'd they put two and two together?

[Jackie]

No, I think someone in the office.

[Ben Soffer]

Well then, by the way, that person also better be fired. The person who's watching sheriff porn. Exposing sheriff porn.

[Josh Peck]

You're kink shaming.

[Ben Soffer]

No, no, I need to.

[Josh Peck]

You're on notice, Ben.

[Ben Soffer]

No, they need to be fired too. They have.

[Josh Peck]

How dare you?

[Ben Soffer]

I don't even think you can.

[Jackie]

Legally. She wasn't doing sheriff porn, was she?

[Josh Peck]

No, it wasn't.

[Jackie]

Sheriff theme. She wasn't using her.

[Josh Peck]

Like, she wasn't like. Put your hands behind your back.

[Ben Soffer]

Damn. I absolutely think that it is inappropriate to report porn that you saw to your employer. You should mind your own business. Maybe Josh, you misunderstood what I was saying. But like, I'm certainly not kink shaming. I'm shaming reporting it to hr. Do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home. Why are you ratting out this woman that you're watching on. On the Internet?

[Jackie]

Yeah, like you're also exposing yourself. Yeah.

[Ben Soffer]

Don't be a snitch. Like that's strange.

[Jackie]

Don't be a snitch.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, no, of course you can watch whatever you want. Okay, that's hypothetical.

[Josh Peck]

Hypothetical. Hypothetical. Someone you love. Let's just say someone you love is like they're either going to go to a second rung state school and major in communications or they're going to do feet vids on OnlyFans. Not nothing crazy, just their feet. Maybe they're pushing their feet into like a sheet cake. Maybe they're crossing their toes in funny ways. Maybe their gnarled toes. I don't know. Maybe they're putting on stockings. But they're going to make mid six figures starting, guaranteed. How do we feel?

[Jackie]

I feel like it's just not a sustainable career. So I would push them to have a plan for when that is over. If you want to sell feet picks, do it. But you need also skills for the future.

[Ben Soffer]

Also, the benefit of a feet pick or a foot pick is that nobody knows it to you. You could easily do both. That's the job. You can do both. The sheriff should be selling her feet picks and still being a sheriff. Because you can be both.

[Jackie]

Yeah, VPIX is really low stakes. I actually like have a hard time believing that it's actually that lucrative.

[Josh Peck]

Me too, because.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Josh Peck]

Not for me.

[Ben Soffer]

Kink shaming.

[Josh Peck]

Listen, I just think everyone should wear steel toed boots. I just think Everyone.

[Ben Soffer]

No, you hate feet. Which, by the way, respect. I respect it.

[Josh Peck]

Well, I respect it. Should we get into a Speak Pipe or into a good high? How good is that? Olivia and Jackie.

[Ben Soffer]

Jackie. Maybe you can help us with this. Jackie is a true word. Jackie's a true wordsmith. So we have a segment called Speak Pipe, right? Where it's your version of Dear Toasters. People call in, leave us, like, a question or a story that we should comment on. But Speak Pipe is literally the name of the program that Marshall gave us, and we just called it that. And we think that in the next year, we're looking for a rebrand on it. Josh came up with Good High, which I think is goodbye.

[Jackie]

What does that mean? Good high. It took a good high.

[Josh Peck]

Like, good guys.

[Jackie]

But hi, Good hi.

[Josh Peck]

Hi. Not hig. So what?

[Ben Soffer]

So what do you think, Jackie? Do you have a good name for what we should be calling Speak Pipes going forward?

[Jackie]

Speak Pipe. That's really funny. But I agree, like, needs rebranding.

[Ben Soffer]

You can think about it and come back.

[Jackie]

I will, I will. This is, like, my favorite kind of project.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah, no, you're great at this. So. But we didn't give you time.

[Jackie]

So for now, and if I give you a new name, if you guys take, like, whatever new name just on the next, when you say it, just be like, and Jackie, you know, did.

[Ben Soffer]

Her job, and Jackie came up with it. For this episode and this episode only, we will be calling it Good High.

[Josh Peck]

That's fun, guys. Comment below, give us five stars, and tell us how much we love Good High. Okay.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Or also. Yeah. Or comment below a better title suggestion. Because also, people usually have, like, the best suggestions.

[Ben Soffer]

True. True. Or suggestion to replace Speak Pipe. Crowdsourcing. Love it.

[Josh Peck]

Even though community inclusion forever, we asked our fandom to come up with their names. And these names. Ashunda. Ashunda, Jackie.

[Jackie]

And now you're the morons.

[Josh Peck]

That's Ben. That was his marketing genius.

[Ben Soffer]

And that's why. And that's why. Because they're morons. As are we. As are we. But yes. All right. So Good High. Speak Pipe.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, this one's from Allie.

[Anonymous]

Hi, Josh and Ben. My name is Allie from Florida, and I have an interesting one for you guys. I wonder if there's something wrong with all of us that we keep listening to you guys. Absolutely. Roast everyone that calls in, and we still come back for more. Like, you guys roast every caller about how we leave voicemails and we can't get enough. Is there something wrong with all of us? Is this, like, A woman used to the patriarchy situation. Can we get Olivia to weigh in? I don't know. Are we nuts or are you guys nuts?

[Josh Peck]

Jackie, Olivia, thoughts?

[Jackie]

I think you're all nuts, but I actually think it's not even like. It's like you, like, being berated. I think people like getting diagnoses and like being told what's wrong with them because it, like, gives them an excuse for, like, continuing on with that behavior. They're like, oh, I'm not annoying. I just have ticket to demand neosis. So I think that they, like, oh, the good guy said I'm this. So they can just kind of carry on with that behavior.

[Ben Soffer]

Yes, totally, Olivia.

[Anonymous]

I'm always worrying about what's wrong with me personally, so to have someone else.

[Michelle]

Verbalize it for a change is pretty nice. So perhaps that's part of the draw, but.

[Jackie]

And also, it's like we're being seen, you know, you're talking about me. How exciting.

[Ben Soffer]

They also call in with a bunch of crap. Like, I'm sorry. Like, they always call in with a bunch of crap. Like, if you don't want to be berated or roasted, then call in with something less crappy, like, even that one was crap. Moron.

[Josh Peck]

Thank you, Allie. Keep coming back. This next one's from Michelle.

[Michelle]

Hey, Josh And Ben. Big moron and huge toaster here. I think I have a. What are you, nuts? But I want to get your opinion on it first. Last year was the first year that I spent with my husband's family. For Christmas, when I opened my stocking, I was happily surprised when I found a lot of my most used brands of toiletries, like the exact type of body wash, lotion, face cream. I asked my husband if he told his mom about the things I use, thinking it was sweet, and she responded excitedly by saying, oh, no, he didn't have to. Last time I was at your house, I snooped in your bathroom and shower and made a list of all the products you used so I'd have them this year for your stocking. Now, I understand she had good intentions and wanted to get me things I need. But secretly going into your married son's bedroom and bathroom, Is it weird that I feel violated? I'm definitely locking our door next time she comes over. Anyway, let me know your thoughts. Love you both.

[Ben Soffer]

No, it's not weird that you feel violated. You were violated. That's insanity.

[Josh Peck]

Can you imagine her? Can you imagine her in the bathroom like.

[Ben Soffer]

Like.

[Josh Peck]

Ma, are you okay in there? Yes, Michelle. I'm.

[Ben Soffer]

Just taking inventory I'm.

[Josh Peck]

I have. I have the runs.

[Jackie]

Michelle, that is so funny. No, she's been violated. But now, like, as I get older, like, I come at. I come at some of these dear toasters or speak pipes from the mother in law's perspective. Now that like I have a son, I worry one day about who he will bring home. And I just want to say, like, from the mother in law, like, this is a fire way to like, get to know what your daughter in law is up to. Say, oh, it's for your little gifts. I wanted to have your brands. Meanwhile, you could see your medication, see what she's doing, what she's about, take inventory. Like, honestly, queenie behavior on the mother in law but violating her daughter's privacy for sure.

[Ben Soffer]

But she didn't need to then go and expose herself like that. She could have just took. Taken inventory. Jackie mentally understood it and never stalked her stuffing. Stalked her stuffing.

[Jackie]

Well, you know what? At least like, okay, she violated. She violated her privacy. Regardless. At least she's gonna make it worth something by giving her all of the things that she would want to have at their house. Like, she's kind of. She's incredibly magnanimous.

[Ben Soffer]

It's actually the.

[Jackie]

Yeah, she could have gotten away with it and she didn't, and instead she gave back.

[Ben Soffer]

And I guess it's kind of nice.

[Jackie]

I now find myself siding with toxic mother in laws because I hope to be one one day.

[Josh Peck]

Convinced me Jack in my stocking. That would mean my stocking would have like baby wipes and antidepressants. And that's not fun. That's not a good Christmas gift.

[Jackie]

I don't know antidepressants like you're saving. You don't have to get them again.

[Josh Peck]

I'm on a 90 day supply, babe. They come in the mail.

[Ben Soffer]

Honestly, Josh, imagine showing up to somebody else's house and them having your antidepressants.

[Olivia]

That's serious.

[Jackie]

That's serious.

[Josh Peck]

Wellbutrin, anyone?

[Ben Soffer]

You just like walk in the door and they have an Ozempic needle with your whole cocktail stab, right? No blowgun. Dream, dream, dream. I show. I show up to Jackie's house and before I can even walk in the door, she jabs me with those epic best sisters ever. Ever.

[Josh Peck]

We should do that for a TikTok once, man. I'll inject you with Ozempic and you just go.

[Ben Soffer]

We should. We should do an Ozempic stabbing for TikTok. I love it. I love it. We can even put it between my toes.

[Josh Peck]

This episode is brought to you by Ro Co, if you want to get your semaglutide brought to you in the mail.

[Jackie]

No, I'm kidding. Oh. I was like, great. Get your bag, GGs.

[Ben Soffer]

We do that, too, but. And, yeah, Rocco is great, but.

[Josh Peck]

Well, Michelle happened to send us two speak pipes, and they were all well put together. So let's hear again once more from Michelle.

[Michelle]

Hey, Josh and Ben, Big moron and huge toaster here.

[Jackie]

With the holidays coming up, I wanted.

[Michelle]

To get your opinion on something. Growing up, the kids in my family always made a Hanukkah wishlist that we would give to our parents and they would share it with aunts, uncles, and grandparents. This was back in the day when the Toys R Us toy catalog was the best part of the holiday season. Of course, the list was just a guide, and we'd be really happy with any presents that we got. As far as I know, the adults did not have a list like that for each other. Fast forward to now, and we are spending Christmas with my husband's family. I got an email yesterday from his mom and sister with links to specific items that they want for their Christmas gifts. I understand it's nice to get things that you want and need, but is this normal? I kind of feel like the magic of the holidays is kind of lost when you give someone a list of items and you know exactly what you'll be opening. I know Ben talks about how much he loves giving gifts, and I'm the same way. Isn't part of the fun thinking of things that the other person would really love and appreciate? Anyway, I'm not sure if this is a. What, are you nuts?

[Jackie]

Or.

[Michelle]

I'm just being critical. Thanks for your insight. Love you both.

[Ben Soffer]

I love. She's Siri, right? She's using an aud, A voice thing.

[Jackie]

That'S gonna ask, do all these women have just, like, perfect voices?

[Ben Soffer]

I think it must be. That must be AI. It has to be.

[Jackie]

Or you, like, put you type in and then they speak it?

[Ben Soffer]

I think so. That sounds too perfect to me. But look, I think that it's a little strange, but, like, whenever I want to get the perfect gift for Claudia, I will be asking Jackie. And that's kind of the same thing because Claudia has told Jackie something that she wants, and you're just circumventing that. That said, I do think that that's still, like, a little bit more special. Like, if you're requesting something, then the surprise of it is totally gone. Like, yeah, I'd recommend that even with.

[Jackie]

Our Secret Santa just Like, bring it back to our secret Santa that everyone's talking about. You can, like, we use elvester and like, you can do a wish list and then someone would put their three things and the person who has them would buy that for them. Like, that's not exciting. That's not fun. Yeah, maybe they're going to get something that they don't want as badly or that they don't need. But, like, it's just, it's also about the thought. And when you do a wish list like that there's no thought. And it's just like, seriously, like, why don't we just get each other gift cards then?

[Ben Soffer]

That's right. Agreed. Agreed.

[Josh Peck]

And can we normalize gift cards? Because you get me an Amazon gift card. You're my best friend.

[Jackie]

Yes, an Amazon gift card is very good because, like, I'm going to use every last cent because it's going towards my Amazon balance. But, like, I don't want like a Visa gift card because when there's like $4 left, like, I'm not going to be. There's always going to be money left on the card and that's literally flushing money down the toilet. So either give me, like cash Venmo me or like, an Amazon gift card is perfect.

[Josh Peck]

Oh, it's the best.

[Ben Soffer]

Amazon's a lovely. Amazon gift card is a lovely gift.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but not. But like, we shouldn't really be doing those, like, Visa gift cards anymore because you're always leaving money on the table.

[Ben Soffer]

You can't just, like, have them swipe it for the rest of it.

[Jackie]

Like, you can, but, like, I just feel like getting it right. There's a lot of, like, cents left on the table.

[Ben Soffer]

I understand. You need to call before and understand it's a job. It's a job for the person owning the car.

[Jackie]

Okay. Someone gave me $75, so I'm gonna go to the toy store. I'll get a present that's like, you know, 72, 99. And like, there's just always.

[Ben Soffer]

And then you lose it.

[Jackie]

I wonder how much money Visa and Amex make every year from gift card dollars that don't get spent an incredible amount.

[Josh Peck]

You're speaking truth to power. Word up, girlfriend. You're right. It's a scam. What about this? What's the worst part of getting a new credit card?

[Ben Soffer]

Josh, I forgot about the time. What about your 3 year old gift card? Gift card?

[Josh Peck]

We're still in a war. I haven't used it. I have $300 sitting in purgatory. It's in fucking limbo. I have $300 that I cannot spread because gift card granny is holding me.

[Ben Soffer]

Hostage for three years.

[Jackie]

Jackie, where's the gift card?

[Josh Peck]

It's in my possession. I keep trying to activate it. It will not allow. They say it's activated.

[Jackie]

Activate never works.

[Josh Peck]

Who wants.

[Jackie]

And I think it's a bigger. Maybe they're making it impossible to activate so you don't spend the money. And they're literally just hashing checks over there.

[Ben Soffer]

It's also stupid because they charge a fee to the buyer as well. Like, I don't know if you've noticed, to buy an Amex gift card costs $4.

[Jackie]

It's not $100, of course.

[Ben Soffer]

Exactly. Versus Amazon. You're loading it up with 100. It's just 100 flat.

[Jackie]

I love it 100%.

[Ben Soffer]

I love it down.

[Jackie]

But also, Amazon is perfect because even if you got me like a gift, a digital gift card anywhere, I either am going to underspend by a few dollars and cents or I'm going to overspend. And now I'm spending money. There's no way to get it 100% right. But with Amazon, it just rolls over until. On your next purchase, until it's done. Like, it's beautiful.

[Ben Soffer]

I love it. I love it.

[Josh Peck]

One more speak pipe and then what? Are you nuts?

[Olivia]

Perfect.

[Josh Peck]

Okay, one more from Anonymous.

[Allie]

Hey, Joshua, Men love your podcast. Quick question. I have a friend whose spouse never is home. Never home. He works a corporate job, makes excellent money, excellent money. But then recently just picked up a second job. She has his location, he's there, he's working. But I'm noticing a pattern with him. Like when things are getting rough, he just goes and picks up a second job and doesn't want to be home, like with his family. Is this something that guys do? Just exit the situation and go find, like, more work to do? Any info would be good. Thanks.

[Jackie]

I just want to say, you guys can speak if this is what guys do. One, like, mind your business. And two, if that's how he deals with conflict at home is, I'm going to go get another job. I'm going to work harder, and I'm going to make more money. I wouldn't get in his way.

[Ben Soffer]

I completely agree. This is not necessarily what guys do. I think that guys are far worse than this. Like, oh, you're having a fight at home. I'm going to make more money. I'm going to.

[Jackie]

Most people are like, I'm going on the bar. I'm staying now. I'm seeing friends. I'm watching the game. Like, no, I'm gonna work hard. I'm gonna channel all this.

[Ben Soffer]

These toxic males, do they work harder?

[Jackie]

Let's fight more.

[Ben Soffer]

Like, no. Like, if you're in a fight with your spouse, most guys, they're joining a bowling league. Okay, can we bring back bowling? Can we bring back bowling? But they're joining a bowling league. They're getting shit based at the bar. They're doing degenerative things.

[Josh Peck]

Bowling is not degenerate.

[Jackie]

If I were this girl, and that was my husband's toxic trait, when things get hard at home, he works more. Things would always be hard.

[Ben Soffer]

They're doing things like degenerates do, like bowling, like.

[Josh Peck]

Throwing darts. He's been playing foosball. I'm pretty sure he's cheating.

[Ben Soffer]

Yeah. No. This lady needs to mind their own business. She's nuts.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah, I mean, sometimes I. I guess it's just a question. And Jackie, Olivia, please feel free to weigh in and tell me. Sometimes when I get in a fight with my wife, my default will be to do the two things that I know are right no matter what, which is take care of my kids and go make money. Right. And I won't. And I'll just kind of shut down a little bit, like. And just say, like, I guess we'll figure this out when we do. Like, right now, we're just gonna be ships passing in the night. Let me take care of these boys. Let me go make money. So everyone survive like that. I know.

[Jackie]

Or start cleaning.

[Josh Peck]

Yeah. Like it. And so can that sometimes, in avoidance of hashing it out, become an issue? Maybe that's kind of what she's intimating with him always working. And I guess there's not an issue, though, like, they're not fighting. He's just always away working.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I think that that's like a pretty healthy, you know, coping mechanism as far as they go, to, like, channel your energy into something productive until there's time to hash it out. Like, you're still going to have differences. And if you are. If it's. If the kids are around anyway, like, you shouldn't be having that conversation right then and there. So, yeah, like, focus on something productive and also sometimes, like, just distracting yourself, focusing on the good. Like, then by the time you get around to having the conversation, like, oh, what was it anyway? We had a nice day with the kids and whatever. Let bygones be bygones, right?

[Ben Soffer]

Totally.

[Jackie]

Sometimes you gotta let those bygones be bygones.

[Ben Soffer]

My default Is certainly not cleaning. That's all.

[Jackie]

I could. One for you.

[Ben Soffer]

That's certainly not mine. No, no, Ben's.

[Josh Peck]

Ben's making tuna salad and shooting pool. I think him and Claudia are having issues. So our final segment every week is our what are you nuts? Moment of the week. It's our gripes with people, places, and things, big or small, whatever's sticking in your craw. Ben, you want to go first?

[Ben Soffer]

Sure. I mentioned my terrible travel day on Friday. My whaddya nuts really should be United Airlines. It's also myself. We spoke about it. We share the blame. The true what are you nuts? Moment is I went. I had to buy two tickets that day, okay, the first ticket for the flight that I missed, and then they rebooked me on a flight 12 hours later, and then I had to pay $1,700 to be on an earlier flight. My what are you nuts? Is that when I went to try to speak to anybody at the airport, I was met with. We do not process refunds at the airport. You must call. I went to the United lounge. I went to the gate. They do not do anything in person but board you onto the plane. Any complaint, anything, you must call United customer service and submit a formal complaint. And all I have to say is, what are you nuts? Like, traveling is hard enough. I'm out two grand. I've wasted 12 hours. I @ least need to have somebody that can hear me at a minimum. And then after you've heard me, okay, maybe I have to call and file a complaint. But the way that I was met, I just. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. We're hoarded like cattle. Airline industry is making so much money, we're suffering, and something's gotta change.

[Jackie]

I agree. As someone who doesn't like to talk on the phone, that just doesn't work for me.

[Ben Soffer]

No, it's not good.

[Jackie]

My what are you nuts? Is actually Ben Soffer. Shockingly, because Ben was staying with me this weekend. He actually, like, ruined something that's so dear to me. I told the story at Chisno, but, like, more people need to know what happened here. Because, Josh, I don't know if you know, but I like to bake bread at home. I now make sourdough. I make a couple times a week. I love it. I'm always, you know, commenting on the appearance of my loaves, and I get very excited when I. I have a beautiful, gorgeous loaf, you know, some garage loaf, a pargee loaf. So I was. I cooked a loaf of Bread. While Ben was at my house and it came out amazing and I walked into Ben and Claudia's room to tell him. I was like, oh, my God, you guys, I just made a pargy loaf. He's like looking at me quizzically. I was like, the buoyancy is just like unlike any other. And he literally thought I was talking about making a number two. A pargy loaf. And that phrase is so ruined for me. What are you nuts? That you think I would come into your room and say I just made a birthday loaf? You think I'm disgusting.

[Josh Peck]

So dumb. So dumb, Jackie.

[Ben Soffer]

So good.

[Josh Peck]

Ruin. I'm so sorry. He's your brother in law.

[Jackie]

Isn't that crazy? I know this long 10 years? I think more than that. We know each other.

[Ben Soffer]

No.

[Jackie]

12 walk into a room and comment on something like, what are you nuts, Ben?

[Ben Soffer]

I just made a wicked dump.

[Josh Peck]

You should see this. Boo boo.

[Jackie]

The spring on it unlike any other.

[Josh Peck]

The buoyancy on this lock. Gross.

[Ben Soffer]

I'm ill. I'm physically ill. That's so funny, Josh. What's yours?

[Josh Peck]

Oh, man. Okay. My Whittier nuts is.

[Ben Soffer]

Oh.

[Josh Peck]

The other day there was someone at a concert and they're holding a sign and someone directly behind them whose view is completely obscured by this stupid sign grabs the sign, pulls it away, and everyone starts clapping in the section. Bringing signs to a concert is what are you nuts? There's nothing to say to the performer and you're literally holding a blockade in front of everyone behind you trying to watch the concert. What are you nuts? It is so selfish.

[Jackie]

That's really fair. What concert did you go to?

[Josh Peck]

I saw it. It was on a TikTok. I don't go to concerts.

[Jackie]

I was like, what was it?

[Josh Peck]

Blippi Live the dream. I might go to Kidz Bop next week.

[Jackie]

Hey, Kidz Bob looks lit. I just want to say Kidz Bop looks lit.

[Josh Peck]

Dude, Kids bond. I'm trying. Have you been to any other good kids concerts, Jackie?

[Jackie]

Disney on Ice, Fabulous crushed Slay the House Down Boots. But actually the Grinch is coming to town this month and I think we're gonna see that. As Ben said, we did see the Nutcracker ballet, which was really good. We saw a poster. Blippi is coming to the theater. I'm gonna miss that excavator. Sorry, must miss. But no, but I look forward to seeing more every time I go. Like, it's so great. It's such a fun activity.

[Josh Peck]

I took my son to. Dude, perfect. Live the Trick shot guys from YouTube.

[Ben Soffer]

Fun.

[Jackie]

That's funny.

[Josh Peck]

That was fun. They're amazing. And then Mario the Maker magician is kind of a fun bespoke magician, but he travels all over the country and the world. An incredible magic show for kids. Educational, funny. The kids were going gaga, bananas. So fun.

[Jackie]

Also, I'll keep a Google alert in my area.

[Josh Peck]

Mario the Maker, get on the mailing list.

[Ben Soffer]

Jackie, this has been an unbelievable episode. You're an unbelievable guest. Thank you, Jackie, thank you so much. Thank you for all of the redos, the tries. We did it. It was fantastic. I'd be remiss not to mention that today, spritzsociety.com, we dropped our Bloody Mary. Spritz with V8 came out today. It's an amazing flavor that Josh won't be trying, but 20 years ago, he would have loved it. He would have loved it. And we'll be sipping it and it's amazing. So you can shop it today.

[Jackie]

And Jackie is sipping spritzes on Cameo.

[Ben Soffer]

You will. You will. You'll see me sipping them soon. And Jackie, is there anything else that you want to plug, perhaps? Redheads Book Club.

[Jackie]

Oh, I love the Redheads Book Club. We are a podcast book club. One book a month. We have so much fun. We read so many great books. So if you want to read more or you read a lot and you want to do it with friends, head over to Redheads Book Club. Check out my children's book, the Camper and the Counselor. Available on Amazon. Great gift for the holidays. Great gift for the toaster in your life, the moron, the mother, whatever it is. Happy holidays.

[Ben Soffer]

Happy holidays. And folks, this episode is five stars. If not, what are you, nuts? Listen to us on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch us on Josh's YouTube. Watch us and listen to us double the views. Why not share our clips on TikTok and Instagram Mondays and Thursdays, folks, we will see you next time.

[Jackie]

Love ya. Bye.

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