Gwyneth Paltrow

Summary

Good Hang with Amy Poehler – Episode: Gwyneth Paltrow

Podcast: Good Hang with Amy Poehler (The Ringer)
Date: January 6, 2026
Guest: Gwyneth Paltrow
Special Guest for Intro: Josh Safdie, Director of "Marty Supreme"

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Episode Overview

In this lively, candid episode of "Good Hang," Amy Poehler sits down with acclaimed actress and entrepreneur Gwyneth Paltrow to talk about her return to acting in Josh Safdie’s new film “Marty Supreme.” The conversation flows from reflections on their mutual friends and comedic roots to deep musings on codependency, bone density, the pressures of Hollywood, and finding personal contentment. Amy and Gwyneth swap stories about the joys and challenges of being in show business, aging, perfectionism, good snacks, old jobs, and the importance of authenticity. All the while, they keep things light, honest, and—true to the show’s mission—funny.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Josh Safdie on Directing Gwyneth (02:37–10:44)

Casting and Working with Gwyneth

• Josh Safdie discusses his casting approach—writing roles with specific actors’ voices in mind. For "Marty Supreme," he wrote the role for Gwyneth, inspired by memories of her early work in films like "Seven," "Hard Eight," "The Talented Mr. Ripley," and more.
• Josh describes Gwyneth as "like a boulder, but also a feather at the same time" (05:16). He recounts a vulnerable moment when she wondered if she still "remembered how to do this," having not acted in 10 years.

Notable Quote:
"She’s cool. She’s like a boulder but also a feather at the same time… She turned to me, she’s like, ‘I hope I remember how to do this’.” — Josh Safdie (05:16)

The Hollywood "Assistant Trick"

• Josh shares a Hollywood secret: important people may have an assistant appear 15 minutes into a meeting to signal a potential early end. Josh felt validated when Gwyneth told her assistant to keep pushing back the next meeting.

Director's Question for Gwyneth:
Josh wants to know: "What did your son Moses think of the movie?" (09:18)

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2. Gwyneth & Amy: Catching Up, Vulnerability, and Returning to Acting (11:56–17:46)

• Amy and Gwyneth joke about earrings, Rob Lowe's youthfulness (“all the plastic surgery”), and their last hangouts.
• Gwyneth shares the thrill and nerves of returning to acting after ten years, and why the “Marty Supreme” set felt special and unique.
• She describes director Josh as “brilliant and kinetic,” noting his technique of keeping actors guessing on set in order to unearth something real.

Notable Quote:
"You never totally relax… He’ll ask you to do the exact opposite. And then back to the first way. So you’re like, what are we going for?… I think that’s by design." — Gwyneth Paltrow (14:01–15:13)

• On set leadership: Amy and Gwyneth bond over their urge to “shape the day” when things feel inefficient, especially after working in fast-paced television environments like “Glee” and “SNL.”

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3. Motherhood and Public Perception (17:13–24:33)

• Gwyneth answers Josh’s question: her son Moses “loved the movie,” but avoided the kissing scenes (17:29).
• Amy praises Gwyneth for her resilience through media projections and public judgment. They discuss Gwyneth’s “conscious uncoupling” and why new ideas or language around divorce can provoke big reactions.

Notable Quote:
"When you don't say what needs to be said in the moment to spare somebody else's feelings, first of all, you're rejecting the truest part of yourself and then it's gonna come out another way..." — Gwyneth Paltrow (30:36)

• They talk about the challenge of “versions of ourselves” existing in public, and how humor helps with the scrutiny.

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4. Nostalgia: Childhood Friends, Early Films, and SNL Memories (24:34–26:51)

• Gwyneth reminisces about growing up with Maya Rudolph and their fathers’ friendship, their shared sense of humor, and moving to New York.
• Middle school awkwardness, working minimum wage jobs, and getting fired from a toy store (“I should have sued for child labor law violations”).
• Gwyneth recalls doing “one-line” roles in her early film career.

Amy Attempts Movie Trivia—With Hilarious Mistakes

• Amy mixes up Gwyneth with Nicole Kidman (“Cold Mountain”) and jokes about “Eyes Wide Shut,” prompting playful exchanges (“Thanks for thinking I’m Nicole Kidman. Bonus.” 34:31)

• Fond SNL recollections, especially about playing awkward teens and Boston-based sketches.

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5. On Agency, Being Direct, and Recovering Codependency (29:14–32:24)

• Gwyneth reflects on the overwhelming pace of her 20s acting career (“15 movies in five years. Wow, that's psycho.” 28:35).
• She shares how she transitioned from being a "codependent" people-pleaser to someone who values directness and honesty—especially in professional settings.

Notable Quote:
"It’s also not your responsibility to take care of somebody’s feelings when you’ve simply said the truth." — Gwyneth Paltrow (31:45)

• Discusses working with a coach to become comfortable with others’ discomfort and disappointing others, particularly men in positions of authority.

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6. Pop Culture, Iconic Roles & Personal Growth (33:51–43:04)

• Gwyneth now feels more able to appreciate her cultural impact (Margot Tenenbaum costumes, “sliding doors” moments, etc.).
• Amy conducts a rapid-fire “speed round” on her filmography, leading to jokes, confessions, and behind-the-scenes stories about “Royal Tenenbaums,” “Iron Man,” “Talented Mr. Ripley,” “View from the Top,” and mixing up “Cold Mountain” again.
• Gwyneth wishes she’d saved a costume piece from every film.
• They discuss iconic cultural moments, working with Robin Williams, and favorite “rainy day” films (Gwyneth loves ‘80s movies, especially “St. Elmo’s Fire”).

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7. Personality, Perfectionism, and the Enneagram Deep-Dive (43:07–45:51)

• Gwyneth identifies as an Enneagram One (“the reformer”), always seeking to improve situations. Amy reveals she’s an Enneagram Eight (“the challenger” with a “peacemaker” wing).
• Both value directness, with Amy noting: “I really like when people tell me the truth and are direct. I can handle it all day long. But when people come sideways, I’m like, what’s going on?” (45:07)

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8. Perfection Speed Round: Wellness, Lifestyle, & Sleep (45:58–51:21)

• Topics include:
  • Cold plunge: Gwyneth does it, but less often than her husband, adapting for her body’s needs (46:15).
  • Sleeping temperature: Both prefer it in the 60s (47:01).
  • Alcohol after 50: “Such a bummer.” (47:16)
  • Coffee: Gwyneth drinks it with raw heavy cream (47:24).
  • Bone density solutions: Heavy weights, estrogen supplementation, lots of protein, and bone broth as a favorite afternoon snack (47:57, 48:35).
  • Sleep routine: Must take a bath every night, eat dinner early (around 6pm), watch something with Brad in bed, uses mouth tape and earplugs (49:00–50:09).
  • Philosophy: Gwyneth stresses there’s “no one size fits all solution”—everyone’s body and needs are different.

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9. The Funniest Thing This Year: SNL 50th Anniversary Spit Take (51:28–55:44)

• Gwyneth and Amy describe laughing uncontrollably at Anna Gasteyer and Will Ferrell’s “Bobby and Marty” sketch at the SNL 50th anniversary show.
• The bit, involving cult leaders and Kendrick Lamar, was so funny it caused the show’s first-ever spit take (54:10).
• The two try to dissect the humor: “Committed spit take… That’s character-based sketch comedy with music… To me, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (55:40–55:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Returning After a Decade:
  “I think I missed this. It felt so… not pedestrian. It felt very unique and special.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (14:09)
• On Directness:
  “I’m a recovering codependent, so I used to do anything and everything not to say the thing that would make the waters choppy. And then I realized how many more problems I caused.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (30:16)
• On Life Lessons:
  “Time is your currency. That’s the only thing that’s important left.” — Amy Poehler (17:05)
• On Perfectionist Tendencies:
  “I think I’m an Enneagram One… always trying to improve everything.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (43:11)
• On the best part of “View from the Top”:
  “That’s the best part of having done that movie—flight attendants talk to you about it.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (38:21)
• On Aging in Hollywood:
  “Now I’m like the venerable old… you know what I mean? Like… am I old as hell?” — Gwyneth Paltrow (32:24)
• On their old SNL sketches:
  “We would, like, have an outburst and then go back to quietly eating, like, awkward teenagers with the family.” — Gwyneth Paltrow (25:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Josh Safdie on casting Gwyneth / Directing stories: 04:32–08:35
• Gwyneth on returning to acting: 13:08–14:25
• Josh’s question: What did Moses think? 17:13–17:46
• On “conscious uncoupling” and public reaction: 22:24–24:01
• On being direct / codependency: 29:50–31:45
• Enneagram deep-dive: 43:07–45:51
• Speed round: Wellness and lifestyle: 45:58–51:21
• Funniest thing: SNL 50th spit take: 51:28–55:44

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Final Takeaways

• Amy and Gwyneth are honest and self-deprecating, sharing industry stories, personal growth journeys, and the lighter side of celebrity.
• Gwyneth talks about age, agency, and self-acceptance: appreciating her impact, owning her “reformer” tendencies, and advocating for individualized self-care.
• **Laughter and friendship are central—**from SNL memories to spit takes, the episode lives up to its promise of being “not about advice, just a good time.”
• Notable moments include mutual admiration, genuine career insights, and candid discussion of perfectionism, health habits, and comedy.

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For Listeners

This episode is a smart, heartfelt, and humorous masterclass in both surviving and savoring a life under the public microscope. Whether you’re a longtime Gwyneth Paltrow fan or just want to hear two pros reflect with wit and empathy, this is a quintessential Good Hang.

Transcript

[Amy Poehler]

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[Josh Safdie]

Yeah, in the back of a kitchen.

[Amy Poehler]

Where are you? Where are we talking to you from?

[Josh Safdie]

I'm in. I'm in. I'm doing grueling press in London and they double booked me. They. This was kind of added late, so I'm actually eating in the kitchen. Can I do it? They Said, can I do it in the bathroom? And they said, no, because we need to have access to the bathroom. I said, do you have anywhere that I can do it? So I said the pastry thing, because it's like, morning stuff. So they said, it's pretty. The traffic here is quite minimal, so.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, you know, as a director, it kind of makes sense that there's some interesting depth to this shot.

[Josh Safdie]

Yeah, Yeah, I. I hope so. I mean, I actually am hoping that people. There's some really good pastries here. Yeah, really. Like, look here.

[Amy Poehler]

Let me see. Let me see. Oh, geez. We got a croissant. We got.

[Josh Safdie]

Can you see that?

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, there's like a braided something. What is that?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Hello. Sorry.

[Amy Poehler]

Now there's someone coming to get the pastries.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Thank you.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you, listeners. Now that someone came behind and are grabbing the pastries from behind our set, and we're gonna need those pastries in there for continu. Get those pastries back, Josh, some more. So we haven't had a chance to meet you, and I am a huge, huge fan of your films and your work.

[Josh Safdie]

Sorry.

[Amy Poehler]

Wait, listeners, there's another person behind Josh getting some more pastries right now. This is amazing.

[Josh Safdie]

Sorry about that.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, it's hard to make a good movie. Congratulations on making many. And this movie seems awesome. And you work with Gwyneth and Timothee Chalamet, so many other great people in your film. First of all, your casting is super interesting. How do you approach casting? You're like, you have someone in mind when you're writing or, like, how do you approach casting in general?

[Josh Safdie]

I. For the most. For most of the writing process, I try to think of somebody and write with their voice. So, like, casting Gwyneth is. Reason why I wrote it for her is like, I have this memory of her. Obviously, she's was acting until pretty recently, but I have this memory of her as like, a teenager, as, like, a kid in the movies. Like, you know, obviously her earlier, like, seven and. And Hard A PTA and Fincher and my cinematographer shot seven. Like, those were, like, early. Like, you're into film. You're like, wow, these are so. But then, like, talented Mr. Ripley and great Expectations and A Perfect Murder. Amazing movie that she plays. And later Two Lovers by James Gray. I mean, she's talked about as a movie star who hasn't acted in a long time immediately. And that, I think, for her also was really, really special because it was. It was easy for her to tap into that. But she, like, brought. She's cool. She's like, like a boulder, but also a feather at the same time. So she's like, she, she brings that to the movie in such a great way. But she, she said to me, right before we started shooting, I scheduled it so that the first thing that we shot was her, like, acting on her character, acting on stage for the first time in 25 years. So. And she turned to me, she's like, I hope I remember how to do this. And it was something so, like this person I, like, looked up to and one of my the greatest actors. And I just, you know, revered her. And now she's coming to me and she's so vulnerable, and it was so human. It was so, like, perfect. It was so perfect.

[Amy Poehler]

That's the thing I think is so interesting about Gwyneth is she balances those two things. Like, a lot of real, like, self awareness and self assuredness and confidence and then a very open, creative and vulnerable quality. Both of them, a lot. And I really, I'm so interested in talking to her about exactly that, that moment in your film.

[Josh Safdie]

I can't wait to hear you guys talk about it.

[Amy Poehler]

The moment in the film when she is on stage and she kind of gets this glee that she's back.

[Josh Safdie]

Oh, great moment. Great moment.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. And it's shot so beautifully and captured so beautifully. And it does feel like we're talking to her in that moment when she's feeling like I'm an actress again, whatever. And do you ever even really stop? And to your point, I mean, she is one of the guests that I feel like is the most projected upon. She is used to being looked at, which is already hard. A hard thing. Like, totally. She can withstand being looked at.

[Josh Safdie]

That's a hard thing. I can't.

[Amy Poehler]

No, I, I, I can't.

[Josh Safdie]

I, like, I got. My wife and I got married at City hall partially because I didn't want to, like, stand on a aisle and get looked at. And she's like, as people say, she's got that dog in her, you know, and she can, she's, she's a lot. I mean, when I first went to meet with her, I just kept telling my agents, just, please, just get me in front of her. I was like, full on, Marty. And I pull up to her house and I go in and there's this thing that Hollywood does that people don't.

[Amy Poehler]

Sorry, but there's someone else coming for croissants.

[Josh Safdie]

But people, people don't know about this. And it's something that I, like, learned in Hollywood a little bit later. It's like when you go and you meet someone in particular, someone of power. You go in and they have this trick that they do. I'm sure you know about this, where you have the assistant or someone they work with comes in after 15 minutes and they say, oh, you know, we have. Your next meeting is here. Do you want me to push it or do you want me to, like. Do you want to, you know, jump now? And they. That's like a little thing is to get them out of the meeting. Like, this is a hard one. I'm going to get out of it. And I saw her assistant come in after 15 minutes. Like, oh, man, that was so brief and. But it was. We were really connecting on the history of this character. She's like, no, you know, just push it. I was like, all right, I'm in. And she pushed it like, four times. So when I left, I was like, I think I did it. I think I, like, convinced her to do this. Just based on the push rule. Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I know you are about to eat, and there's nothing more. You know, it's the first rule of directing. When you have a croissant in the shot, you're going to have to eat it by the end of the.

[Josh Safdie]

One of the ones with the little. Look at this over here. Look at this.

[Amy Poehler]

Let's see what else we got. Josh is directing us. Ooh. Oh, Chocolate covered donuts. Okay, so to finish out, I ask my guests, my Zoom guests, to give me a question for the guest I'm talking to today. Is there anything big or small, important, not important that you would want to hear in this conversation with me and her, or, like, you wanted to always ask her or advice or thoughts or anything that comes to mind.

[Josh Safdie]

Oh, man. What did your son think of the movie?

[Amy Poehler]

Beautiful. Because you guys just had a premiere.

[Josh Safdie]

He just saw it. And I spoke to him very briefly, and he was. He felt he, like, had this kind of high about him, but I didn't get to tell. You know, you get pulled in all these directions. But I wanted to talk to him more. And his. His name is Moses, and the dog's name in the movie is Moses. And Moses. Moses is the purveyor, the moral. He's the moral purveyor.

[Amy Poehler]

So I love that. And also, Josh, I just find it so awesome that, you know, as the movie's coming out and it's getting these huge reviews and it's. It's out, people are getting to see it. You still care about what people think of it. You Know, like, it's. It's important for you to hear how

[Josh Safdie]

it's in the resonating in the room. I try not to pay attention or read the other stuff.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I'm here to tell you it's a hit.

[Josh Safdie]

Oh, thanks.

[Amy Poehler]

It's a hit, baby.

[Josh Safdie]

Oh, thanks. You gotta. You have a good meter on you so that I'll, like, think you're not bullshitting me there?

[Amy Poehler]

No, it's a hit. The kids love it, the critics love it. Awards all day, babe. Get ready. I don't believe in jinxes. Thank you so much for your time. I can't wait. Send me a photo of you eating any baked goods that you get to get in that kitchen.

[Josh Safdie]

Okay. I really hope the camera didn't see me touch food. Thank you so much.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you so much for your time. Such a pleasure.

[Josh Safdie]

Have a good time. Talking to Gwyneth, she's. She's. It's like talking to a movie star.

[Amy Poehler]

I. I can't wait.

[Josh Safdie]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

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[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I agree. What about that?

[Amy Poehler]

I like that better.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, thank God.

[Amy Poehler]

No, I'm thrilled that you took my.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, God. These are the worst. Yeah, I felt like they're like these big boingers. Like, why do I need to do that?

[Amy Poehler]

And were they clip on?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes. And they were really painful.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Thank you.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. I don't think you need to boing it up.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No more boingers.

[Amy Poehler]

No more big boingers on your ears. That's what we're saying for 2026. Hi. I'm so happy you're doing this.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Thank you for being here. I've not seen you in such a long time.

[Amy Poehler]

No, I was trying to think. I feel like the last time we may have seen. Seen each other was Rob Lowe's 60th birthday party. The most incredible young looking 60 year old in the world. Rob Lowe. Incredible.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's all the plastic surgery. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Over and over and over again.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Over and over.

[Amy Poehler]

I mean, and I feel like I got to see you briefly there and sat next to your wonderful husband and had a really good convo with Brad.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But yeah, that was it. But we didn't get to.

[Amy Poehler]

We didn't.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

We didn't get a good hang. You know what I mean?

[Amy Poehler]

I'm very excited to talk to you today.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, thanks.

[Amy Poehler]

Thanks for being here.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Please lower your expectations.

[Amy Poehler]

I do enjoy a low expectation too, but I wanted to kind of start in the present. You play this character in Marty supreme who is coming back to acting.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

You are also doing that in a real way in the film. You haven't been in a movie for 10 years and there's this really beautiful moment in the movie where the actress hears the response and it's really cool and has this feeling of like just, I don't know, joy of being doing something again. Did you feel that when you were making this movie?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I did. I did feel it. I was so. I don't know, it was like such a special group. You know, sometimes you do a project and you're like, ah, this feels really special. You know, it feels like. It feels like we're making something worthwhile. I don't know if people will like it or not, but it's like a real swing and everyone's great at their job and.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And so I was like, wow, I think I missed this. You know, it was like. It really. It felt so. I don't know, like not pedestrian. Like it felt very unique and like special.

[Amy Poehler]

So we had this thing where we talked to people behind their back. Well, behind their back before they come on.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, boy. Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

And we talked to Josh Safdie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Amazing.

[Amy Poehler]

And what was it like to work with him? What kind of director is he? What was that experience like?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's just great. I mean, he's brilliant and kinetic and. You know what I love about working with him too is you never quite know what he's going for. So you never totally relax. You know, you're like, what is he actually saying? Like, what, what do I. Or like he'll. You'll do something one way and then he'll Ask you to do the exact opposite. And then back to the first way. So you're like, what do you want? What are we going for? And I think that's by design, you know, to sort of unearth something surprising or very real or.

[Amy Poehler]

Do you like that when people keep you chatt challenged a little bit?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, because it's like a trust that they feel like you can handle it

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

as long as I think they're a good director.

[Amy Poehler]

Right, right, right. Because when someone's doing. When you're. I'm sure you've had this happen. There's no worse feeling in any job that you do anywhere where you show up where you're like, uh, oh, the person in charge is not ready or good.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's just. I think what happens as an actor on that set is, you know, become risk averse. You're like, I'm not gonna go too far out on a limb here because I don't know if I'm in safe hands or not.

[Amy Poehler]

Are you the kind of person that would take over a situation if there wasn't a good captain? No.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I mean, I would. Like, in the ad department. I do anyway. I'm like, guys, come on, let's go. What are we doing?

[Amy Poehler]

Me too. It's actually, like, a problem I have to work on, which is like, stop trying to shape the day.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Right. I mean, I just, like, I think I have an efficiency issue, you know? And like, when I. I think what also really messed me up was when I went to go do Glee and I saw how much they got done in one day.

[Amy Poehler]

TV is an incredible. It's a machine.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's like, you are never sitting there. You work all day. Everything's so quick.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You leave the set and you're like, oh, my God, we accomplished so much. You know, we're like, on a Marvel movie. You're like, in your trailer for 14 hours.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. And. And. And for. And then even take. Take tv and then go to snl, which is an emergency room, which is like, we need something tomorrow. No problem. And then in films, it's like six months out, and you're like, we can't do it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Is anyone gonna come and get me?

[Amy Poehler]

I'm gonna die.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'm gonna die in my trailer.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. Time is really weird.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's weird.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Like, time is your currency. Like, that's the only thing that's important left.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

That's right. And we're not getting. They're not making any more of it.

[Amy Poehler]

So Josh was so so. And he said something very sweet, like his question for you, which is such a director's question and such a question from a director whose film has just come out, is, what did your son think of the movie? He wanted to know what Moses thought of the movie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

That's so sweet. He loved the movie. Yeah, he was. I mean, he. After the screening, when I saw him, I said, he's like, it was incredible. It was. I mean, I had to kind of watch like this because there's some kissing.

[Amy Poehler]

Sure.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So that he was not a big fan of. Yeah. But other than that, he loved it.

[Amy Poehler]

So many people project so much stuff on you, Gwyneth. Like, you get so much stuff projected on you. And you spoke at the Hollywood Reporter event. You were receiving an award, the Sherry lan Singing Leadership Award. And you spoke really beautifully about it, about this idea of versions of ourselves. Because I do think that every woman, Every. Everyone man, woman understands it. Like, hopefully, if you're doing some work and you're having some life experience, you keep kind of shedding stuff and figuring out things about yourself. And having those versions kind of be out in the world is really difficult because people get to have opinions about it. But everybody understands that feeling.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay. With that in mind, I want to go to, like, the tiny doll, the little Gwyneth, because I know people that knew you when you were little.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You sure do.

[Amy Poehler]

You know, Maya Rudolph went to elementary school with you. What do you remember about being with her when you two were little people?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Well, our fathers were best friends from Tulane University.

[Amy Poehler]

Wow.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And so Maya came to our elementary school right after her mother died, unfortun. And I remember my dad saying, oh, my friends, you know, daughter's coming. And we just became great friends since 7 years old. You know, I think our senses of humor really developed together with, you know, our other best friend and. Or a couple of them. And then they all went to high school together. I moved to New York, but stayed close with them forever and ever.

[Amy Poehler]

It must be nice to have Dick Rudolph, Maya's amazing dad, in your life, too, because he knows so much about your dad who passed. Like, to have somebody who knew your dad when that's always important, right?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So important.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's like it conjures them again. You know, when they're in the room, they talk about him, and then it's like all of a sudden you feel the person. It's so nice.

[Amy Poehler]

So then you go to New York, you go to Spence. What kind of high school? Like, what. Who are. What are you like, in High school. Are you confident?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I think I. So I. We moved to New York City when I started seventh grade. I was coming from California, you know, so I was like a very rare bird. And middle school is so brutal.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. It's so tender. It's very tender.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's like scarring for life.

[Amy Poehler]

It is. And it's very. Everybody's trying on a lot of things.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Exactly.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, maybe I'm emo. Maybe. Yeah, Maybe I, like. I only talk to animals.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Right. I was trying all kinds of things.

[Amy Poehler]

How old were you when you did your. Was hard at your first film with PTA?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No, my first film, I was probably 18, something like that. I had a few films where I had, like, one line. You know,

[Amy Poehler]

sometimes it's hard to have one line because there's a lot of

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

pressure, and you're, like, in the mirror saying your one line and saying it again.

[Amy Poehler]

Did you ever get fired from a job?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I got. I got fired from, like, I worked in Madison Avenue at a toy store, and I got fired. But you mean like a movie job?

[Amy Poehler]

Why did you get fired from the toy store? Do you remember?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, because I was working. My parents always made my brother and I have jobs after school. And so I didn't know that, like, oh, everyone doesn't just go on spring break. Like, people have jobs. So I went on spring break and didn't tell anybody.

[Amy Poehler]

Nope.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And then I came back, and I remember the look on the woman's face. She's like, where are you?

[Amy Poehler]

She was like, no toys were sold.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

She's like, this is not how life works. She's like, you're done here. I was so crushed.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was, like, 12. It was really. It was brutal. I should have sued her for child labor law violations.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But anyway, I feel like I did get. I was supposed to do a movie at one point where. And it was like, right after the kind of conscious uncoupling thing with Chris. And there was a lot of harsh stuff in the press, and I think the distributor was like, this might be too. Too hot to touch.

[Amy Poehler]

Interesting.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

They were like, we don't need the heat.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Interesting.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So that was great, because I was getting a divorce, and then I got fired off, so it was so awesome.

[Amy Poehler]

You're like, oh, sorry that my divorce is bothering you.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Sorry.

[Amy Poehler]

I mean, if I can stay there for a second. Boy, you were ahead of your time. Yeah, you really were, because.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Which is good and bad.

[Amy Poehler]

I know it's probably not easy. I think you've been in that position before, but you, like, you gave a word, and it wasn't your term, it was a term you were talking about.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

To bracket this idea that if you want to, you can try to make the dissolution of a marriage be one that isn't deeply painful. You can try your best. You can have all of the feelings, but you can still try together to make, like, a conscious effort to do that. That's what you were talking about. And it's really interesting that people had such big reactions to that.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, huge. Because I think, like, say you had had a really nasty divorce or your parents had had a really nasty divorce, and then you hear this idea that, like, you don't. It doesn't have to be done this way. I think the implicit learning is like, oh, fuck. Like, they're saying I did something wrong. Which, of course, was not the intention, but I think, of course. I mean, that makes sense to me. Like, oh, no. Is the inference that I mess someone up. Like, that's not a nice thing to contemplate. So I do understand why it was so personal for people, because it was like, you only get. See that. That kind of reaction when it's personal.

[Amy Poehler]

So true. And I think, too, you know, we all. We're all, like. When we're defensive about anything, it's saying a lot about. About something.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And when we're hurt, when we hurt, we say things we don't mean. You know, we get angry, we respond. Like, yeah, that's human. That's humanity. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Comedy is a little bit interesting in this way, too, which is, like, what we ridicule, like, what we make fun of. It says so much about us. Like, what we laugh at makes so much about us. What we think is. And it tells on you. Like, it really tells on you.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You reveal yourself.

[Amy Poehler]

You do. And I have to say, I've always really admired your sense of humor about people's reactions to things. Like, you have to kind of have it. And we got to experience. I mean, I got to do SNL with you and see how funny you were. And it was.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

We had fun.

[Amy Poehler]

We did have fun. I was just thinking today about the stuff that we did together. Do you remember?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that sketch we did where Will played our dad, and we were like. And we were like, gangster teenagers, like, thinking we were. We were gangsters.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Like, I think the joke of the scene was we just quietly ate dinner. We were, like, scraping.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. We would, like, have an outburst and then go back to, like, quietly eating, like, awkward teenagers with the family. The second time I was definitely less nervous. The third time I was. Yeah, I feel like I got to sort of enjoy it. And it was fun to like, meet different incarnations of the cast and stuff. And like, I think I was on like Jimmy's first season.

[Amy Poehler]

I know there was a sketch with you and Dratch and Jimmy when they used to do like, Sully and Denise, like Boston Teens. Oh, yeah. They were at the prom.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, my God, that's right. I totally forgot about that.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. And you did a pretty good Boston accent, I have to say.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Thank you.

[Amy Poehler]

It's not easy.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It isn't easy Now. I married a guy from Boston, so.

[Amy Poehler]

Does he? Does he? I mean, Bostonians are really picky about the Boston accent, you know.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Well, there's different kinds of sort of the patrician one and then there's.

[Amy Poehler]

Which is pretty much gone.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Pretty much gone.

[Amy Poehler]

Kennedy one is kind of gone.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And the. There's this like, kind of your local.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Dunkin Donuts.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Boston doesn't have really a Boston accent except like on O words. Like, he's like stock.

[Amy Poehler]

He says jock.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. You can just like. It's like very.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, that's nice.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. He's like socks. It's just subtle, but it's there. Totally. Socks.

[Amy Poehler]

I get it when I get a little angry or a little tired.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You do?

[Amy Poehler]

I had a hard time when I would do Parks and Rec with the word. I still have a hard time with it. Government.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

How do you say it in a.

[Amy Poehler]

Because I want to say government.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Right.

[Amy Poehler]

Like I want to go. I want to skip over the ern. I want to get rid of the R. Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

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[Amy Poehler]

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[Gwyneth Paltrow]

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[Gwyneth Paltrow]

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[Amy Poehler]

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[Amy Poehler]

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[Amy Poehler]

Streaming December 12th, only on Disney. Okay, you're an actress. You do 15 movies in five years.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Wow, that's psycho.

[Amy Poehler]

I mean, babe,

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

that's problematic.

[Amy Poehler]

How did you do that?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I have no idea. That's probably why I quit. For 10 years afterwards, I was like, no, I'm not doing that.

[Amy Poehler]

No.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

15 years, that's insane.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. Can you imagine?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I just like. But this sort of touches back on what we were talking about, which is I didn't feel like I knew myself and had the agency to say no. I felt like I better just keep going and going and going and I didn't bring a lot of strategy to it, you know?

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, well, you don't know what you don't know. Like, we can't be tough on ourselves. We were, you know, you're trying to figure out, especially in your 20s. I mean, your 20s is, I think, a really difficult decade.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh my gosh. It really is.

[Amy Poehler]

It is.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Then there's. It's just you don't know at all

[Amy Poehler]

who you are if there's a problem. Do you like people? How do you like people telling you about a problem? Let's say I'll make up a problem. Like, let's say someone isn't, isn't going to show up for something that you want to do. Like you're scheduled to do something day and it's not going to happen. How do you like being told about the problem?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Just straight up.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, that's what I suspect.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I don't want to preamble. I don't want you to soften the language. Just be direct. Same.

[Amy Poehler]

A direct approach. It's always. And are you direct with other people?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes, now I am. I didn't used to be.

[Amy Poehler]

What do you do when you notice that your directness makes them uncomfortable? What do you do with their uncomfortable feeling.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes. Well, I'm a recovering codependent, so I used to do anything and everything not to say the thing that would make the waters choppy. And then I realized how many more problems I caused. Like real problems, you know, I so relate.

[Amy Poehler]

Can you say more about this?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. Like, I think when you don't say what needs to be said in the moment to spare somebody else's feelings, first of all, like you're rejecting the truest part of yourself and then it's gonna come out another way and that's like, you'll end up being dishonest. You'll end up not saying what needs to be said. You'll end up stringing out some lame relationship for eight extra months and treating them not so nicely because you have stuck yourself in something. You know, you just make a mess.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So I think around the time I turned 40 is when I started to move into this. Like, I really need to stop doing this. And I worked with a coach on how to hold the uncomfortable feelings of somebody else and disappointing somebody else. I really had a problem with it with men. Like when I worked with men, really hard time disappointing them or saying something that wasn't aligned with their version of things. And now I don't know. And then it's so self honoring when you just speak the truth and you can do it very kindly. And it's also not your responsibility to take care of somebody's feelings when you've simply said the truth.

[Amy Poehler]

It's a huge not just women. Everyone needs to learn it. But especially when you learn as a woman our age that people are responsible for their own feelings. It sounds like a very simple thing, but it's very, very hard to learn.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Amy Poehler]

Barf, barf. Now that you're in a new film, like, are you able to look back at some of the films that you've been in and see, like, be kinder to yourself about stuff. Like, are you able to be a little bit sweeter to yourself about anything? Yeah. Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I mean, I think as far as the work is concerned, I think that I had such a long break and things have changed. And you know, it's like now I'm like the venerable old, you know, you know what I mean? And like I did this interview with Jacob Elordi the other day and he was like, you've done this and this? And I'm like, fuck, I'm old as hell. Like so weird.

[Amy Poehler]

People are like, my mom, I remember when my mom was in high school, she Loved snl. Oh, my God.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Can I get a selfie for my mom? Like, how old am I? Like. But I. I do think that, you know, there's. There's been a bit of a. It's so interesting because now I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, I did these things that now, you know, at the time, you don't think that they're gonna be. Yeah, whatever. And then it's like, you know, People send you 10 pictures every Halloween of Margot Tenenbaum costumes. Or like, people say, like, oh, God, I had a sliding doors moment where I, X, Y, and Z. You know what I mean? It's like, yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Cultural things that stuck.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes, exactly. And, oh, I worked with this great director in his first film and this one and his second. This one is first. I'm like, yeah, cool. Like, I did do that stuff. That's neat, you know? And it feels like for the first time, I'm able to feel the impact of the work that I did earlier in my life.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay, so with that in mind, I'm gonna do a quick speed round with you about your movies. Cause you've been in so many, and I feel like you've talked about them forever. But here we go with speed Round. Shakespeare in Love. What words help you get into a British accent?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know, it's like the vowels. Like, you sort of have to change the placement of the vowels. Like, so any words like the A's, the O's, and words like, perfect.

[Amy Poehler]

Cold Mountain. How cold was the mountain?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I wasn't in Cold mountain.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, forget it then.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But thanks for thinking I'm Nicole Kidman. Bonus. Wait, why did it unintended bonus. I don't know, but I'm so happy.

[Amy Poehler]

Eyes wide shut. What was it like working with Tom Cruise?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, he was hot.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, I bet. Iron Man. Is there a lot of waiting around? You answered that. That was my question. Is, is there a lot of waiting around on Iron Man?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So much waiting.

[Amy Poehler]

Crafty must be good. Marvel. Crafty must be insane.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I don't know.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, interesting. They cheap out on.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know what I have to say, I think, like, I think snack foods can be dangerous.

[Amy Poehler]

And snacking is like, at least I. I know, for me is completely emotional.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Completely emotional.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. It is, isn't it?

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. It's just like, if you're not having a cigarette or you're going for a cigarette.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Those were the days.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. Remember cigarettes? We talk about it here, and we know they're very bad for you, but God, God, that came up at such a great Time.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know, man.

[Amy Poehler]

I. I know.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know what? I decided when I'm, like, 87, I'm gonna start smoking again.

[Amy Poehler]

Fantastic. I mean, I remember when we were in the 2000s, when there was a lot of that. And then also you were the first person to say the word macrobiotic diet. You were on a macrobiotic diet.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. That was a great phase where it was like cigarettes and tofu with the brown rice and the seaweed. Like. I don't know what. I was just cleaning your house while

[Amy Poehler]

it's on fire kind of thing.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Exactly.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Okay. Sliding doors. You mentioned it. Do you ride the subway?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Do I ride the subway? Yeah. I mean, I haven't in a while because I don't live in New York City anymore. But when I did, I took it all the time.

[Amy Poehler]

Do you go pretty incognito? Like, do you feel like you can kind of blend?

[Josh Safdie]

Yeah, I feel.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Don't you feel like New Yorkers are just.

[Amy Poehler]

New Yorkers don't care.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

They don't care.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Contagion. Was it weird that everybody was watching it during the pandemic? Yes, everyone was watching it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Everyone got really into dark shit.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

And it's like they wanted to see you dying from an illness.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Your character. Your character.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It was very weird. I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Royal Tenenbaums Halloween costume.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. And so much more.

[Amy Poehler]

And so much more. You're smiling. What's your.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I just love. I really love that movie.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. It's a great movie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And I had such a good time making the movie. Movie. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And I. Cool character. She's so cool. She's so cool.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

She's so cool.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. With her wooden finger.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Our cigarette. Talk about cigarettes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know. And I quit smoking. And then I had to smoke in the movie. And.

[Amy Poehler]

And you were like, oopsie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was like, I guess I smoke again.

[Amy Poehler]

That fur coat. Whose idea was that? The coat.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's all west, west, west, West. Knows every. How he wants everybody single, prop and costume and everything. He's so wonderfully specific. I loved that. Like, I loved stepping into this drawing, you know, of his.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, that's what it felt like. It's so cool. Talented. Mr. Ripley, did you. Speaking of clothes, did you use any of your own clothes in that film or did you keep any of the. You're so.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I should have kept some. You know, I should have kept some. I wish I'd kept a couple. Like, one souvenir from every movie. But I never thought to. To do that at the time. I Ann. Roth, who's, like, the most legendary costume designer, did that movie, and so she was just so amazing. Oh, I love those costumes so much.

[Amy Poehler]

But legendary costume designers can also be really intimidating.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Like, they.

[Amy Poehler]

Because they don't let you keep anything.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

That's true.

[Amy Poehler]

View from the Top. The flight attendants talk to you about that?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

They do, yeah. That's the best part of having done that movie.

[Amy Poehler]

Do you ever think about, like, a fantasy other job you would do? Would there be a job, like, whether it's flight attendant or, like, where you would feel like you'd be good at it?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I would like to be a chef. If I wasn't, like, I think I could have done that. Well, I love cooking and food. Yeah, that would be. I could have, like, a little restaurant somewhere.

[Amy Poehler]

You know Hook.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Robin Williams.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't get to do.

[Amy Poehler]

I thought you were just about to say I wasn't in Hook.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No, I was panicking.

[Amy Poehler]

Panicking. Don't. Don't think I will forever think all my whole life that I said you were in Cold Mountain. Well, I just want you to know

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

this is an honest mistake. I mean, Nicole Kidman and I are very interchangeable, thank you very much.

[Amy Poehler]

But, Hook, did you work with Robin?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No, I did.

[Amy Poehler]

Did you get to know him?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know, I only got to know him a bit when Good Will Hunting came out, because I was dating one of the people who wrote that movie and was in that movie.

[Amy Poehler]

We're well aware.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And so I got to know him then.

[Amy Poehler]

So you guys were dating during Good Will Hunting? Fantastic Boston movie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

After.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But when it was coming out and

[Amy Poehler]

so he was around for that press and stuff. Yeah. He's so good in that movie. That movie really is.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I love that movie.

[Amy Poehler]

Me, too.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's a perfect movie.

[Amy Poehler]

I agree. It's a fantastic movie. And it's so. It's so like, rainy day movie. It's like a rainy day movie.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And Elliot Smith, who did all the music, and Gus, like, it's just perfect. I love it so much.

[Amy Poehler]

What's a rainy Day? What's a movie that when it comes on, you're like, jackpot. I'm gonna watch it like a rainy day. You know, a plane movie. Something if you're like, I gotta watch it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I like all the 80s movies. Yeah, me too.

[Amy Poehler]

Like what?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Like Santa Must Fire. I will never not watch that if it's on.

[Amy Poehler]

I. You know, getting back to Rob Lowe Rolo, as we called him on set, I would just sometimes, like, sit there always. He loves it. And he's never had a. He's never really had a nickname.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

He said, and the best thing is it, like, didn't spread as much as you guys tried to make it a thing.

[Amy Poehler]

And we all call him Rolo.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know what I mean? And he really, I think, wants it to go.

[Amy Poehler]

He's like, I've never had a nickname.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know he loves it.

[Amy Poehler]

I remember, like, the first day on set, me saying to Rolo, it was his birthday, and he was shooting on his birthday. And I was like, oh, have you ever been on set for your birthday? And he was like, yes, like 400 times. And I was like, right, you've had a long career. St. Elmo's Fire. Billy. Rolo as Billy Rolo as Billy Bad Boy. Can't change him.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Heaven.

[Amy Poehler]

Heaven.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

He was never my celebrity crush.

[Amy Poehler]

Who was?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I mean, well, Keanu Reeves was my first, like, real. But when I watched St. Thomas Fire, like, I wanted to, like, I would have gone with Judd Nelson.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, interesting. You wanted them more professional.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Billy was too heavy.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You know, really, like, smart and cheater. Like, that was my type. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Also, when you re. Watch that movie, it's like everyone is so dressed so professionally.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, every. We really did dress like we were when we were in our 20s. We dressed like we were 60 year olds.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, the 80s was weird. And it's happening again now. You know, like, not the Wall street thing, but sort of like this sort of grandma chic. Like all the. All the hipster cool kids are sort of. You know, it's like the same soft. Everything's soft shoulders. You tell me knitted things and I

[Amy Poehler]

got a quarter zip just for this interview. So you tell me.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's looking really good.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you so much. Okay. And Han, Both Han, you brought up Rashida. Both Rashida and Han love you and talk about how fun it is to hang with you and. And how, like, they both, you know, and they're, I think, representative of a lot of people who kind of want to know what you think about things because they trust your style. They trust what you said. Like, the work you try to do to figure out what is the best thing of things. And it's not even about the things. It's just like, is there someone who's keeping an eye out? Keeping an eye out and figuring out, like, is there a better way to do something? You love that.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Love that.

[Amy Poehler]

Where do you think that comes from?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I think I'm an enneagram one.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay, jackpot. Here we go.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So, like, I'm Always trying to improve everything.

[Amy Poehler]

Great. So for people. I don't know anyone who's listening to this, who hasn't, hopefully. What is enneagram1? How would you.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Are you into the Enneagram thing?

[Amy Poehler]

Very much again? Okay. Do you want to guess my number? Nobody ever gets it right. God, here we go. I'm always. I always get the wrong. I always. People guess the wrong number, which saddens me because I love.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Can I ask.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Ask some questions, please. Okay. Like, how would you describe yourself as someone who really enjoys a dinner party.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay. Would you describe yourself as somebody who is very focused on achieving.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Are you a peacemaker? No.

[Amy Poehler]

You're talking about three. You're talking about nine. I'm neither one of those.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know. That's what I just gleaned.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So how.

[Amy Poehler]

I have a peacemaker wing.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay. Ah. So you're a one. You're not a one with a two wing. Okay. You're not an eight.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes, you are.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay. You're an eight.

[Amy Poehler]

I know this. You're an eight. I am an eight.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You're an eight with a nine wing.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes. So I'm not a monster, Right. Because I got a little peacemaker in me, but I'm a challenger.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

And I. And it's. I think I hide it, but I definitely relate to all of that feeling of, like, authority stuff and challenging a little bit and wanting to lead and want. And feeling very happy with direct people. Like, I'm. I'm like you, like. I really like when people tell me the truth and are direct. I can handle it all day long.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Wow.

[Amy Poehler]

But when people come sideways, I'm like, what's going on?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. It's such a bad feeling. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And I love enneagram ones because ones are on it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, we're on it.

[Amy Poehler]

And they believe in, like, getting it right. They're the hardest on themselves. Oh, yeah, they are really hard on themselves.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But we are trying to make things better. Right. We're the reformer.

[Amy Poehler]

So you're always. And I've always been, like, refining to figure out what is a better way to get efficient. Like, to do it, like.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. To improve yourself, to feel contentment, to, you know, reduce inflammation, to be a good partner, to be a good divorce person.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Okay. So with your striving for perfection in mind, I have another one more speed round.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, okay. Perfection, speed round.

[Amy Poehler]

Here we go. Make it perfect. Cold plunge. Lot of controversy about whether or not it's right for women. I said that I do it. And there were a lot of Comments saying it's not good for women. Do you do it? Do you like to do it? How do you feel about it?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I do do it more sparingly, like my husband does it every single day. So I spent a lot of time researching this and what I think I understand that the net. Net of it is cold. Plunging is not unilaterally terrible for women, but we kind of need to listen to ourselves and maybe not the water quite as cold as the men like that. Maybe not quite as long as the men and, you know, to just be mindful of where. Where we are, you know, if we're exhausted and, you know, because it can be quite taxing on. But it's still. There are still benefits for us.

[Amy Poehler]

Speaking of temperature, what do you like for your sleeping temperature?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Well, the older I get, the colder I like it.

[Amy Poehler]

Me too.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I like, you know, in the 60s.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, me too. Ooh, I love cozy alcohol after 50.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh, why did they have to ruin it for us?

[Amy Poehler]

I know. It's like. It's a disaster.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Such a bummer.

[Amy Poehler]

Coffee?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yes, big time. I'm a big coffee drinker.

[Amy Poehler]

How do you. How do you drink your coffee?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

With raw heavy cream.

[Amy Poehler]

What?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Shocked.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

That's very New York of you and not California.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Good job.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'm. I'm like the all. I'm not the alt milk queen.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, same.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. Oh, do you have regular milk? I have cow milk.

[Amy Poehler]

Or half and half.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, yeah. No shame in it.

[Amy Poehler]

But I don't really do coffee. I do tea.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Oh. Because coffee is a lot.

[Amy Poehler]

Very English. Okay. Lemon water.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Love it.

[Amy Poehler]

Great bone density. What are we gonna do about it?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

We are gonna. We're gonna, you know, talk to our doctor about potential estrogen supplementation.

[Amy Poehler]

Totally.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

We're gonna do heavy weights. Yes, Lots of heavy weights.

[Amy Poehler]

Are you doing heavy weights?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, I do it on this giant, really heavy pilates reformer thing called a legree.

[Amy Poehler]

Fantastic. It seems to be good right now. Yeah, Giant reformer.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It's called the Legree. It's very, very good. And we're gonna gag down protein 70 times a day.

[Amy Poehler]

Bone broth. Has that come and gone? Bone broth is great.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I still like bone broth. I. I think it's fantastic for your gut. It's full of protein and collagen, all the things. For some reason, people thought I only drank bone broth. But I'll have it as a cup of tea in the afternoon. That's my favorite way to have it.

[Amy Poehler]

Interesting sleep routine. Talk me through it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay. So I have to Take a bath every night.

[Amy Poehler]

Wow.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. Have to. Non negotiable.

[Amy Poehler]

Interesting.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And if there's not a bathtub, then I have to shower. I gotta get the day off with water. And I think part of my good sleep routine is eating dinner early. So. Not going to bed on a full stomach.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes. What time do you like to eat dinner? I like it at 6. Okay, me too. I make my reservations at 6pm so do I. I love it so much. So great. And I honestly, sometimes I like to be the first person in the restaurant

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was last night. I did 5:45 last night.

[Amy Poehler]

Incredible.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

To be in bed and have eaten by 8 o'.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Clock. Is there anything better?

[Amy Poehler]

No. I think about bedtime all day.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Me too.

[Amy Poehler]

I love it so much. I love it so much.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And then Brad and I usually watch something in bed, which I know you're not supposed to do. I know, but you know, it's so deeply relaxing to me. Like get in there in a cold room and like watch some serial killer doing something. So great. And then, you know, go to sleep. And then. Oh, I have mouth tape and earplugs.

[Amy Poehler]

Mouth tape?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah. I'm big into the mouth tape.

[Amy Poehler]

I know that's controversial too, mouth tape, because there's a whole mouth tape movement. There's pro, but mouth tape is helpful. Are you a grinder?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'm a grinder, yeah. So it's helpful for me also, I really believe that there's no one size fits all solution. Like, we're all so different.

[Amy Poehler]

Totally.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

We have such different genetics, different phenotypes, different tolerances, allergies, toxic loads. Like we're all. This idea that one thing works for everyone, I think is not true.

[Amy Poehler]

See, this is why we love you, Gwyneth. It's true. You just said all this stuff and it is like, You are not selfish. You are not a gatekeeper.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No, that I am not.

[Amy Poehler]

You're like, I'm trying this. Would you like to try this? I don't think this works. But who knows, right? You are. It's interesting. It's kind of like the. Even though you're maybe consider yourself a person who's trying to get it right, you're not afraid to like try and fail with things and you share it with us for sure.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Yeah, yeah. I believe in. I mean, also because I'm such a researcher and such a guinea pig. Like, I want to share. I want to share the learnings. Then take it or leave it.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay. And then the last thing I'm going to ask you about is what is making you laugh.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

So the thing that's made me laugh the hardest in, like, the past year. When was the SNL thing that I lazily did not go to because I.

[Amy Poehler]

You didn't go to the SNL 50th?

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

No.

[Amy Poehler]

Wow.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I know it was a mistake and I regret it. So I just want to say that out loud.

[Amy Poehler]

You were like, oh, that's. You just thought like.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was like, oh, that's.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, I'll wait another 50 years.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I was like, it seems like I had so much work at the time.

[Amy Poehler]

It's gonna be hectic.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And I was like, I gotta go all the way to New York. And I had something the next day, so I just couldn't go.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

But I watched the thing at Radio City or whatever. What was the Night before thing?

[Amy Poehler]

Yes. Incredible music show the night before. Wait, what are you gonna say? I love it. I don't know. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

When Anna and Will. Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Did the church thing, I talked to Anna about it. Bobby and Marty.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Did you write that?

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, I wish. No. Paula Pell, the great Paul Lepel, incredible writer on SNL and performer. And Anna and Will do these. Bobby and Marty cult.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

And she started singing Kendrick Lamar.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes. And what Ana said, which was so incredible, is. I gotta tell you something. And I think I said this to Anna, but I just want to extrapolate for a second about it. To me, it was so. It was like such a win for the comedy kids because it was such a cool night. They literally followed Lauryn Hill. They came on after Lauryn Hill, I mean, and their job was to settle everybody. They had to go like, we're going to wait. We're going to wait until you stop talking. Quiet. They kept telling everyone to be quiet. And it was so funny.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

To me, that's like that. I don't know what brand of comedy you call that, but it's like that Funny Bones where. What, What. What was the Kendrick Lamar song?

[Amy Poehler]

She's like, oh, we gotta look at it for a second. It was. What was it? What was it? Please, please. Yeah, let's just watch it. And I hope we can get it on. Like, is the 50th SNL. Yeah.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It was like on Hulu or something like that.

[Amy Poehler]

Here we go.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Honestly, I.

[Amy Poehler]

Commitment.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'm sorry.

[Amy Poehler]

I know the commitment kind of humor.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

What do you call that? I'm sweating.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, to me, what I would call that. Honestly. It's a great question. Gwyneth. To me, I would call it like, Committed spit take. We got a spit take. Our first one. We got our first spit take on. Good hang. And it's Quinn. It's all over my skirt. Here we go. Here's some good hang.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Tissues.

[Amy Poehler]

I can't breathe. It's so funny. Wait, let's play it again. Oh, my God.

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[Amy Poehler]

I'm sweating.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'm dying.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, my God.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

Okay, so that's called sketch comedy.

[Amy Poehler]

I need a fan. We're having a hot flash. Oh, my God. I'm the one in the quarter zip.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

A sketch comedy induced hot flash.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes. I feel like what you're talking about is real, which is. I feel like it is commitment. It's commitment. Here, I'll take it.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I'll pick it up on my way out.

[Amy Poehler]

I feel like it's commitment and I feel like it's character based sketch comedy with music. That's how I describe it. It's so.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

To me, that's like the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Amy Poehler]

I know what you mean.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

I like, you know, it's like these

[Amy Poehler]

weird, specific things and in person, it was so funny. That was really fun.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

It was really fun.

[Amy Poehler]

Gwyneth, I thank you so much for coming on. You're such a good hang.

[Gwyneth Paltrow]

You're a good hang.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you so much, Gwyneth. It's so fun to hang with you. And you gave us this first spit take that we've ever had on the show, and we hope it's not the last. So thank you so much. And, you know, for this polar plunge. I want to talk about polar plunges. I want to talk about cold dips. There was a lot of controversy when I brought it up last time, and I am here to just remind you you don't have to do it. I, like, makes me feel alive. Slash like I'm gonna die, and I like it. I know it might not be good for all women and maybe it's not good for me. I'll find out. Okay. But I'm gonna keep plunging and it does make me feel better. Okay. I don't know. I don't know what to say. I appreciate. I'm not telling anybody to do it, but if you want to do it, I think it's great. Okay. Anyway, thank you so much for listening. Thanks, Gwyneth, for joining us and see you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite for the Ringer production by Jack Wilson, cat Spillane, Kaia McMullen and Alaya Zaneris for Paper Kite production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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[Gwyneth Paltrow]

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[Gwyneth Paltrow]

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