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Jennifer Lawrence
Hey, girl.
Amy Poehler
Hi. I'm really happy to talk to you today because, I mean, I think the stuff that you guys have done together is really, really special. But also you just shared a long history together as people in the world and friends.
Justine Shiraki
Well, that's very generous of you to. Obviously we've been enormous fans for 100 years, so it's like such an honor.
Amy Poehler
To talk to you.
Justine Shiraki
And I'm like pinching myself and she is too, that she's coming on the podcast.
Amy Poehler
Oh my God, she's so good at podcasts. I mean, she's so good at talking.
Justine Shiraki
That's. That's her shit for sure.
Amy Poehler
Now, before we start talking about Jennifer, I do want to talk about you. Where did you grow up?
Justine Shiraki
I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in common. I grew up with Aubrey and did community theater with her.
Amy Poehler
You childhood?
Justine Shiraki
Yeah. Yes, yes.
Amy Poehler
You guys went to the same school, like you were in the same town.
Justine Shiraki
Yeah, we went to the same elementary school and we both were in community theater at the Wilmington Drama League, an esteemed venue for like most of our, most of our childhood.
Amy Poehler
Oh my gosh. What was Baby Plaza?
Justine Shiraki
Like exactly the same as Adult Plaza? Yeah, like, hasn't changed a bit. The greatest.
Jennifer Lawrence
The greatest. That's.
Amy Poehler
What A Small World. And so the two of you are like, they're doing shows and, and, and performing and then where, where does that take you after you graduate?
Justine Shiraki
I didn't really know where I would fit in film and so I, you know, took a bunch of odd jobs and, and explored and during that period, I met Jen.
Amy Poehler
And what was your first impression of her when you met?
Justine Shiraki
My first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast. And also that she had. Because Jen didn't have like a traditional education, she also swerved a lot of the like, social anxiety that I think a lot of people our age had been plagued with. So Jen had this like abandon and lack of self consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends. So we were sort of like wide eyed by her. And, and I think that that's something that she still possesses all these years later. It's something that she hasn't outgrown or, you know, she's never, yeah, she's, she has not become jaded by her totally surreal lifestyle.
Amy Poehler
So how do you go from two young women like sitting on a couch in a small LA apartment to running this big company and making these big movies? Like, how does that work?
Justine Shiraki
Oh man. I mean, it's a loaded question. I think that we met as young women and obviously developed our taste together. We were discovering film together. Everything from Wong Kar Wai to Sex and the City, you know, like it ran the gamut. And I also think that we became best friends. And so what, we, we care about similar things, we're moved by similar things, we have similar reactions to life and what's happening in the world. And that really is the basis for our decision making around what we take on as producers. So I think the obviously like extraordinary happenstance of Jen's young success and her being in this incredible position to get things made, and then Jen and I Continuing to, like, care for our relationship and continuing to grow together. And so I think the Odyssey has involved a ton of hard work and care and all the things you would imagine. And also us continuing to grow and being excited to elevate each other.
Amy Poehler
And also, I loved Causeway.
Justine Shiraki
Oh, thank you.
Amy Poehler
Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk to Jenna about it. It's just a great, great movie. Beautiful director. Lila.
Justine Shiraki
We love Lila.
Amy Poehler
Brian. So Brian. Tyree Henry's so good. Jen is so convincing as the character that she plays, like a physically and kind of spiritually wounded vet who's returning home. It's so good. Such a good movie.
Justine Shiraki
It's always so nice to see Jen in those roles where the kind of like, stripped back, quieter performances where it's so much of it is just happening in her eyes.
Amy Poehler
You know, I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know how to act like that. Like, I mean, we were kind of talking about. We were talking about interviewing her and we were like. And, you know, it's hard not to be like, you're so good at acting. But she is so good at acting.
Jennifer Lawrence
She's.
Justine Shiraki
She's good.
Amy Poehler
That's pretty good. Are there times when you're watching her and you're like, damn, she's really good at acting?
Justine Shiraki
Every time. Every time. Like, I. I've sat on probably 11 sets with Jen, and every time my mind just is, like, blowing out of my face, I'm like, still, like, it does not get old. She just levels up every time.
Amy Poehler
You know her really well. You know, sometimes we ask people to talk well behind our guests back, and they've worked with them or they kind of know them. But you know her really, really well. You've known her for a really long time, and you're deep partners in work and you're loving friends in life. And. What do you think I should ask her today? What do you want to know about, hear about, or what do you think she'd want to talk about or a story she'd want to tell?
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, man.
Justine Shiraki
I mean, with Jen, it's funny because she is so transparent in these spaces. Like, I don't think that she's somebody who. Where there are like a ton of subjects that are off limits.
Amy Poehler
Well, it's okay. This is really helpful because I've been prepping for the interview, and I don't want to put her in an uncomfortable position ever to ask her something she doesn't want to talk about. But she. She also feels really well aware of what she Feels comfortable talking about, I guess.
Jennifer Lawrence
I think she is.
Justine Shiraki
And I think she'll also, like, tell you. Like, I think that she. I think, like, she'll pivot if she needs to.
Amy Poehler
You never have to answer a question if you don't want to answer it. And it is. And it's a magic trick to not answer it. And people often forget that. What question they asked. I mean, this isn't a good thing to tell a guest, probably. This is probably not a good thing to get. But anyway, do you have. It doesn't have to be a heavy question. It can be something small. Anything that you think we should ask her today.
Justine Shiraki
I mean, gosh, like, maybe because she's in a position of constantly being asked questions, and she is never in charge of what is being asked. Like, maybe it's asking her, like, what would you like to talk more about that you don't feel.
Amy Poehler
Whoa, that's a good friend.
Justine Shiraki
Opportunity to declare, you know, maybe. Maybe she has a big announcement or just something that she'd like to, like, reflect on.
Amy Poehler
You know what? That's a really good friend, because what you're basically saying is just check in with her and see if there's anything else she wants to talk about. Yeah, it's so true.
Justine Shiraki
She, like, is tired of talking about, you know, that, too. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
What are you. What do you want? It's basically like, you're at the tsa and it's like, what do you want to declare? And what perishables would you like to get rid of? Totally. Yeah. Well, no, but thank you so much, and I will give your best to Aubrey Plaza. I like picturing you guys being weird together in Wilmington.
Justine Shiraki
Yeah, that's.
Jennifer Lawrence
That's.
Justine Shiraki
That's the right picture.
Amy Poehler
Justine, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Justine Shiraki
Thank you for having me. Of course, Jen.
Amy Poehler
All right, nice talking to you.
Jennifer Lawrence
All right.
Justine Shiraki
See you later.
Amy Poehler
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Jennifer Lawrence
Hi. My voice was so deep. Hi. Hi.
Amy Poehler
I'm very excited that you're here.
Jennifer Lawrence
I'm so excited to Be here. I am a really, really huge fan.
Amy Poehler
Oh, come on.
Jennifer Lawrence
I am. Say more. No. I'm obviously being sarcastic.
Amy Poehler
I was worried about what to wear today because your style is so dope.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
You have great style.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, my God. That's the only thing you need to say to me ever.
Amy Poehler
And what is your. I want to know, how do you pick clothes? What is your relationship to clothes?
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. Thank you so much. Would love to talk about this. I'll just.
Amy Poehler
Because I'm fascinated. Because I'm struggling with.
Jennifer Lawrence
I. Well, I have very opinionated friends. One in particular. Very opinionated friends. And we clear all the cloth. I do a lot of closet clean outs. I think living in New York helps with that.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
I don't have a lot of excess stuff that confuses me. I have things that I really like.
Amy Poehler
Do you think about. Do you plan your outfits for the. I mean, obviously, with press, it's different.
Jennifer Lawrence
Loosely. I mean, I plan your outfits for the week. I do it, like, mentally. I, like, start kind of planning something. And I take my kid to school, and I know that I'm gonna get photograph. So I do kind of do like a mental.
Amy Poehler
Like, like, what do I. How do I want to present today? No, no.
Jennifer Lawrence
Because the answer's always the same. Today I want to present as, like, effortless, but, you know, like, I don't need this girl. How'd she get so pretty? I don't even know what I put on. And you know what else is really important to remember?
Amy Poehler
Tell me.
Jennifer Lawrence
You can write it down.
Amy Poehler
I'm ready.
Jennifer Lawrence
Big goes with big.
Amy Poehler
Okay, this is going.
Jennifer Lawrence
If it's gonna be. No, but if it's gonna be. If it's gonna be tight. If you're gonna have a baggy and a tight, you cannot ever have tight on the bottom, baggy on the top, or you'll look like a lamp. You can have baggy on the bottom and tight on the top, but you cannot do the other way around.
Amy Poehler
I'll tell you something about baggie on the bottom. I wore baggie on the bottom for you today. You did?
Justine Shiraki
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I'll show you later. I have baggy pants. I'm so sure. It's like.
Jennifer Lawrence
It's tough.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, it's tough. It's tough to go baggy on the bottom.
Jennifer Lawrence
But I have short legs, but a really long torso. Yeah. And big, thick, meaty arms.
Amy Poehler
So.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay.
Amy Poehler
It's a long torso. I see then that silhouette. You know, your silhouette, I guess. Yeah. And it's.
Jennifer Lawrence
I mean, you got great. Knowing is not Loving.
Amy Poehler
Dude, you got great style. I mean, I. And I. And like, you like, I'm always just looking to see women are dressing like, not, not like just truly. Like, how do we.
Jennifer Lawrence
Not just the style to take mental notes.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
When I see something and when I.
Amy Poehler
Actually feel comfortable, it feels like such a win.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
To wear something that you feel like you look good in and you also feel good in. It's like a hard thing.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. You feel like you're like representing yourself accurately. Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Or the, the worst thing is like when you're like, I think I nailed it.
Jennifer Lawrence
You see the picture years later. Not even years later. Oh my God.
Amy Poehler
You're like, I remember really good.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I had that recently. Cuz I was postpartum. But I was like. But I. But I had like, in my. With my second, I had like bad postpartum. So like, I wasn't eating, so I felt really skinny.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Jennifer Lawrence
But I wasn't.
Amy Poehler
But inside you felt.
Jennifer Lawrence
I was like, strapless. Let's do this. And my baby was like three weeks old.
Amy Poehler
I mean, you like a lot of people. Like, we're working through a lot of your pregnancies. And that's also a weird thing too, because you're like, your body is kind of. You're like bringing your body along for the ride.
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, I was surprised more people haven't talked about how skinny I am and dye my love, because I'm pregnant and I've been waiting and nobody said it. Nobody's like, wow, you were pregnant. You looked so skinny. Like, I've never had an Ozempic rumor.
Amy Poehler
Not yet.
Jennifer Lawrence
Not yet.
Amy Poehler
Not yet, honey. Not yet. After this. After this, we're gonna take this frame and we're gonna squeeze it down. No, but it is true.
Jennifer Lawrence
It's like when you talk about how tall.
Amy Poehler
No, but I love what you've been talking about. We have so many things to talk about today. And I just want to start by saying this is what I've gleaned from meeting you briefly and feeling like I. And I know people who know you really well and just like, who? I don't want to talk about them. They asked me. I'm best friends with your mom. But you seem. And I know it's gonna sound cheesy, but you like women.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, yeah, I know, but I do. You do.
Amy Poehler
And it shows.
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, what do you think? I like, love white men. Like, oh my God, if I could just be their champion. They're so misunderstood.
Amy Poehler
You're always like, wait, think about the other side.
Jennifer Lawrence
Not all men I have it tattooed.
Amy Poehler
No, but, you know, you. And the reason why, to me, it's not what you say, it's not what one says is what they do. And what you do all the time that I think women do for each is you. Like, you tell the real, real behind something. Like you. You. You. You talk about, like, this was difficult, or I'm thinking about this, or like, you. Basically. I think when people stay mysterious, it's like a disservice to other women. It's just like, okay, you know, and you do this thing that I really appreciate that comes through, which is you're trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect. And I think that's. I think that's what women do for other women when they like women. That's the best way to say it.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thanks. That's amazing.
Amy Poehler
And so, like, today, when I was thinking about our interview, I've been really hearing you talk about how you're trying to figure out the balance between who do I want to be and what parts of me do I want to give out to the rest of the world, and what parts do I want to keep for myself? Which feels, like, very, like, 30s.
Jennifer Lawrence
Totally.
Amy Poehler
Where are you at right now with the balance of that? Because you are so famous and so real.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
And those two things are not always the case.
Jennifer Lawrence
Right. I think that when I do press, I should do half than what normal people do because I see my quotes and they, like, they're insane. Like, Jennifer Lawrence calls Kourtney Kardashian annoying. It's just too, you know.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, you're right. But it carries. It carries.
Jennifer Lawrence
But it's.
Amy Poehler
Well, first of all, honestly, it's funny because you're so funny.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
And the third piece of the puzzle I'll say is that you're very. You feel like a real person.
Jennifer Lawrence
You're very erotic.
Amy Poehler
You've had your hand on my knee this entire interview, and it's a long stretch. You have a really long arm.
Jennifer Lawrence
These pants are baggy.
Amy Poehler
Really? Too baggy to get in there? No, you're famous and erotic and real and deeply funny. Like, genuinely.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, my God. You have no idea what that's like coming from you. You're my hero, dude.
Amy Poehler
But I don't say that to everybody. And, you know, God is fair. Like, usually you don't have all those things going at once. Usually you have, like, very, like, important, interesting actor who's, like, really good at acting. But maybe, like, you know, maybe not the funniest, or you have a deeply Funny person who you wouldn't maybe believe in a scene, but you can do both.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, thank you. You are deeply. I could do this all day.
Amy Poehler
Okay, well, I'm glazing, as the kids like to say.
Jennifer Lawrence
What's. Is that what they say? You don't know glazing? Well, you've got teenagers.
Amy Poehler
What do you want to know about teens? I know everything. You have two boys. I have two boys.
Jennifer Lawrence
I'm. I. You know, I missed my window. To really ask about 6, 7. I know that it's like, it's over. Know I missed the window, so I. I don't even care anymore.
Amy Poehler
Actually. Anything that we know is over.
Jennifer Lawrence
Right. By the time it gets to, like, your mom.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Like, if the New York Times is writing about it, it's. It's been over.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Like, no one's saying it anymore. But to explain, really, like, boots.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, like, like instead of period boots, that. But that's from drag.
Amy Poehler
Like, I'm deceased. Boots.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, yeah, like. Like, well, like period. End of boots.
Amy Poehler
Right. I feel like period's still around. I feel like period.
Jennifer Lawrence
But you're supposed to replace it with boots, I think. Or that's just a gay culture thing. I don't actually know.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we could. I have a laptop. We could look it up. We could spend the entire.
Jennifer Lawrence
We could ask ChatGPT.
Amy Poehler
Hello, do we still say boots?
Jennifer Lawrence
Young culture or just gay monoculture? Asking for a friend.
Amy Poehler
But what does it feel. But you're in your mid-30s now. You are. I bet you're starting to feel just. Just what you just expressed, which is like, oh, old.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
But it's weird, right? Because you're. You do not feel old.
Jennifer Lawrence
And you're.
Amy Poehler
One does not really feel old in their 20s.
Jennifer Lawrence
My assistant is 23.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Jennifer Lawrence
And so, like, I was doing, like, a closet clean out yesterday, and she was like, oh, my God, these are like real skinny jeans. Like, they, like.
Amy Poehler
It was like, jeans are not a joke.
Jennifer Lawrence
She was like, wow, they really do go in at the bottom. And I'm like. And we were talking about baby mama, and I'm like, so funny. So funny. She was like, that was probably like the. The first comedy I ever saw. And I was like, how old were you? Seven.
Amy Poehler
You're a millennial. Yeah, like mid millennial.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, I don't know when it begins or ends, but I was born in 90.
Amy Poehler
You know, there's this. I feel like you would like this, but we'll probably cut it. But there's this book that I'm obsessed with called the Fourth Turning. And it's all about how 80 years of history just keep repeating itself, and we're kind of getting at the end of the Chaos era, which makes sense, right? For the past, like, 20, whatever, years. But it's like each generation, throughout the years, have come forward to save, like, you know, different eras from peril. And the millennials are gonna be the heroes in the next. Good luck.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, that sounds so hard.
Amy Poehler
I'm so tired. But I believe in you, and I wish you the best of luck.
Jennifer Lawrence
I was hoping that these kids would save us.
Amy Poehler
No, it's you guys. And I feel like that makes sense because we've really, you know, I'm Gen X. Everybody, like, really gave it to millennials and rolled their eyes at how well parented they were. How blah, blah, blah, we just were. And I think they're going to really show us they're going to save things. So chop, chop.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. All right.
Amy Poehler
Thanks so much.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. It is funny when you see, like, what gentle parenting is going to.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
Do. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But okay. Speaking of gentle parenting, this is a good segue. I want to get to you go from. I'm blown away by the story, and I. I'm sure you've told it before, but I just need to know the details. Which is Louisville. You're on a trip to New York with your mom.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And a guy comes up on the street and says, can I take your picture? Yeah, tell us the story.
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, he took. Okay, I will tell you the story. And I just. I feel like I'm lying. Okay.
Amy Poehler
It's an amazing story.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. But it is the truth. But it's just one of those. I'm like a woman, so I feel like I have to, like, apologize, and then I'm lying. I was in New York.
Amy Poehler
I'm sorry.
Jennifer Lawrence
For spring break, and I was watching street dancing in Union Square. Whoa. Never seen that before. Not a lot of street dancing in Louisville. And a man named Daniel, who is a talent scout, came up to me and my mom and was like, can I take her picture? I'm like, a model scout. And we were just like, cool. Okay. You know, no sense of danger. Yeah. If he had, like, told us to meet him at a hotel room, we 100% would have.
Amy Poehler
Totally.
Jennifer Lawrence
And then he took my picture on the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the picture on his T shirt at a concert one time, and it was the first time I had seen that picture since it happened. I was like, how did Joe Jonas get it?
Amy Poehler
That's so weird.
Jennifer Lawrence
Weird. I've since Seen it.
Amy Poehler
Got it.
Jennifer Lawrence
I don't really know what to do with it. I'm not gonna, like, print it out. And so then I went and started being interviewed by modeling agencies. And what was becoming really apparent was, like, if you're a model, you're a model. If you're a model, you're traveling. You're not acting. There's no commercials. There's no. So somewhere in those interviews, I decided that I' I would only sign with an agency that would also let me act, even though it hadn't been, like, an actual.
Amy Poehler
Did you know any actors growing up? Did you think you would do that as a job?
Jennifer Lawrence
No, never.
Amy Poehler
Wild.
Jennifer Lawrence
But then once it kind of, like, was brought up as a possibility, I mean, I did. I would always watch Hilary Duff, like, when I got home from school, and then I would do Hilary Duff in the mirror. So it kind of all came together.
Amy Poehler
But it is really random that someone came up and was like, hey, kid, throw this pitch. And you have the most amazing fastball. So good at acting.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, thank you.
Amy Poehler
And the fact that someone was like, hey, do you want to go do this acting thing? I mean, I guess it was through modeling, but, like, they were like, hey, you. I mean, it's so wild. It's. It's a needle in a haystack kind of moment. Do you think you would have pursued it if that didn't happen?
Jennifer Lawrence
I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware that that was possible. Although, like, being in the big city, I was like, oh, I want to live in a. I want to live here.
Amy Poehler
I want to live in a big city. Yeah. Like, you know when you look back at your life sometimes and you see, like, Christmas cards where people say, like. Like, you know, hope you make it to New York someday. And you think. Did you ever feel like you had that version of like, I want to get out of Louisville. I want to be. Go somewhere else?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I think, like, when it was happening, I think, like, I mean, I really wasn't there for that long. When I think about it, like, 13, 14. That's normally, like, before you even start getting those, like.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
So once I came back, it was just like, an impossible fever. It was just like, I got to get back there. I got to do what I got to, you know? And I had made money. I used to train horses, and I would babysit. So I had, like, $3,000. And so I was like, I'm getting out of here.
Amy Poehler
Let's get out of here. Yeah, you trained Horses. Wow. You proved my point that I feel like women and young girls that like horses usually have great hair.
Jennifer Lawrence
Wow.
Amy Poehler
Always. I don't know. I have a bunch of theories, and one of them is that if you like horses, it makes your hair grow really thick.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, my God. Because you know what? A friend of mine, every time she's on mushrooms, thinks that I look like My Little Pony. You have.
Amy Poehler
Fantastic.
Jennifer Lawrence
This is for you, Rachel. This is for you, Rachel, right now.
Amy Poehler
Because your mind is going to be blown.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yep.
Amy Poehler
But when I was looking at your life and career and I was kind of blown away by how much stuff happened so fast and young in the years of like 19 to 22. Yeah, that would be a lot. A lot.
Jennifer Lawrence
That's why I was so emotional over those skinny jeans. They were my 23 year old rag and bones.
Amy Poehler
Yes. And that was a tender time. Because you were. How. What year were you? 22,000.
Jennifer Lawrence
2012.
Amy Poehler
Because you did Winter's Bone. Beautiful movie. Incredible performance. When you were 19. Then you do SNL close to that time too. Like the following year, maybe.
Jennifer Lawrence
Did I? Yeah. 20. Yeah. Because it was before the Oscars for Silver Linings and Winter's Bone. I remember being too young to drink. I did, but at the Oscars.
Amy Poehler
And what were your memories of doing SNL at that time?
Jennifer Lawrence
Skewed, skewed, skewed.
Amy Poehler
I've read you weren't on the cast then. No, 2012. I had left in 20 2008. And then by 2012, I was doing Parks and Rec.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. I don't. I think I have to, I have to go back and do it again because I had walking ammonia. I was like, under a lot of pressure and doing a lot. And I was shooting one of the Hunger Games movies. I was shooting, I think the second one while doing all of this camping and I would have to like, fly, go to a party, shake hands, and then land and, you know, shoot. Like, poor me. But I was very tired. And so I think I was just. I remember I was also at that bad age. I don't know if other people were like this at this age, but we're like, you know, when you, you get asked like, can you do any impressions or anything? And I was like, no.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
You know, like, I don't want to be like, and I can do this and I can do that. I just kind of made everything like everybody else's problem. I was like, I don't know how to do that. I can't do that.
Amy Poehler
Totally. I know. And also, I mean, it's hard to be young and on that show. It's just hard. But your relationship to comedy, what is it like now? Do you want to make more? Do more, direct more, write more?
Jennifer Lawrence
I would love. I wrote a comedy.
Amy Poehler
You did.
Jennifer Lawrence
And I would love to direct it. And I'll star in it.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God, you should.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
No Hard Feelings. It was great. You were hilarious in it.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Such a good movie.
Jennifer Lawrence
I did not write and direct that one. Although I guess I could tell people that. I did. I always could. People do good.
Amy Poehler
They don't pay attention.
Jennifer Lawrence
No. After I wrote and directed no Hard Feelings, I. It really got me thinking. But thank you. I had a lot of fun doing it.
Amy Poehler
And you want to direct as well?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Right on.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Great.
Jennifer Lawrence
I mean, everybody does. You know, I think that's true.
Amy Poehler
Like, I feel sometimes people are not into it, but I feel like. I mean, are you finding that, like, having worked now and done a lot of stuff now that you're realizing, like, oh, I want more control in what I. What I do and how I like to work.
Jennifer Lawrence
But I also. I had. My first movie ever was a female director, and then I actually ended up working with more female directors than male directors. So as a teenager, it was like, really, like, not formidable. Formidable, yeah, forming formidable. It was a farming culture for me. So that made me, like, realize.
Amy Poehler
Gotta get this word. It's formidable, right?
Jennifer Lawrence
No, it's like formative.
Amy Poehler
Formative.
Jennifer Lawrence
Informative.
Amy Poehler
Well, it's a formative. What I mean is experience.
Jennifer Lawrence
Formative. Is that what it is? Formative?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, Here we go. Formative. Something that relates to formation or development, shaping and influencing something else.
Jennifer Lawrence
That is precisely what I mean.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we did it.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. So it was formative that I realized that that was even, like, possible for me to do. So I had wanted to do it since I was a teenager. So then when I went into movies and like, 20s and now. Yeah. I always tell the director and then they include me, and a lot of them have been really nice and, like, included me in the process. And let me see, like, post and all that stuff.
Amy Poehler
What is. What's important for you when you work? Like, what. What's the thing you like to do? For example, like, do you feel like once I'm on set, I want to escape and just, like, dive in and I want some other people to handle the stuff? Do you like to. Do you like the logistics of the.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, I do like the logistics.
Amy Poehler
Like, you like a call sheet and you like knowing what's going to happen.
Jennifer Lawrence
But I Think that's, like. That's a woman's brain. Yeah, you.
Amy Poehler
It's just.
Jennifer Lawrence
It's really. My producing partner and I have been on sets together since we were 21, and we fuck up a call sheet. I mean, we. And when I have, like, a friend that's going to go do something, I'm like, send me your call sheet. I'll get you two days. We just know how to make it make sense. We. It's. It's divine. So I like the logistics. I also. I need to connect and have friends immediately. Like, I got to dive in and find, you know, the camera guys. Like, I got to find, like, who my, you know, people are gonna be.
Amy Poehler
That's so interesting. You gotta.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Cause you're like, we're gonna get.
Jennifer Lawrence
Which is not a photo shoot, right? Photo shoot. I don't want you to talk to me. I just want. I just want.
Amy Poehler
Totally agree. I just want it to be over as fast as possible.
Jennifer Lawrence
And it's just. All of. It's so embarrassing, you know, like, put your hand like this.
Amy Poehler
Or if you're considered a funny person. The worst part is they're like, we have a bunch of props. Props.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, no, that's not right. Clown shoes for you. You clown.
Amy Poehler
Put on the shoes, you clown. But it's so true. I mean, I've been in many shoes where, like, a chill goes down your spine. They're like, just. It's always a whisper. There's a bunch of fun props if you want to play with them at anything.
Jennifer Lawrence
If you want to play with them. Oh, no.
Amy Poehler
It's like a giant lollipop and a rubber chicken. Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, that's not gonna come naturally to me. Like, if you want me to pull on the rubber chicken, I will, but you have to direct me. Me to pull on it.
Amy Poehler
And the other thing is, like, we have a really fun idea. You have all this barbecue sauce on your face.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, it's always.
Amy Poehler
It's always like, we're going to humiliate you.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you're gonna just. You're gonna smile your way through it. You're such a good time. Right? Okay.
Jennifer Lawrence
I know. Mine aren't that bad.
Amy Poehler
I'm kind of shocked to hear that. I mean. Well, I'm not shocked. I mean, obviously, they're just like, we.
Jennifer Lawrence
Were thinking, you wouldn't wear a bra for this. And I'm like, I've had two children. And they're like, but me. You want me to show you something? Come here. I'm gonna show you something.
Amy Poehler
All Your pictures. Are you just flashing?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
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Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, okay. Okay.
Amy Poehler
I want your hot takes.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. Oh, yeah, no problemo.
Amy Poehler
I know you like to give hot takes.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And I want. And these are important things.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. I gotta take it easy on the housewives, though. I always get. I get like.
Amy Poehler
Okay, I'm gonna tell you something about. I don't know that much about housewives.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay. No, no, no, it's fine. I mean, that's good.
Amy Poehler
But you like below deck.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I do.
Amy Poehler
First question, if you were on below deck, what would you want your job to be? Which. Which of the jobs?
Jennifer Lawrence
A student? Well, no, no. I would go into that laundry and I'd that laundry up. I'd put a podcast in. I'd steam, I'd fold. I'd have a system. I'd have a color coded system.
Amy Poehler
I don't mean people never want to go down into the laundry and below deck. And it's like, why you don't have to talk to any of the people. You're there by yourself.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I'm alone. And again, I would put one near pod in. I'd listen to some murder and I just fucking fuck that shit up. It'd be so satisfying. Yeah. And also doing all that, like, doing turndown would be one of the most satisfying thing. Getting the lines in the vacuum perfectly.
Amy Poehler
Do you have like, Are you a Earth sign? What's your. What?
Jennifer Lawrence
You've got like a. I'm a Leo.
Amy Poehler
Oh, so, okay, so you've got. But you have a lot of grounded. You like organizing. You, like, straighten things. Does your house neat.
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, I mean, my. If you look at my bedside table and then you look at my husband's bedside table. Okay, Mine is an explosion. Pills everywhere. I mean, I look like I'm dying. Littered with pills. What is her malady? And my husband's like, just a bottle of water.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, okay, but you like.
Jennifer Lawrence
But I do. I get satisfied once. It's like, time to clean up.
Amy Poehler
You like a good. You get like a good system. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense to me. And then. Okay, another question is, do you have a nickname?
Jennifer Lawrence
Fluffin? Nitro? Boobs. Boobs.
Amy Poehler
Lauren.
Jennifer Lawrence
The full government name. Nitro. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Where did Nitro come from?
Jennifer Lawrence
My brothers. Because I was really hyper and they called me Nitro.
Amy Poehler
I love that you are.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, and my friends call me Ken from the Barbie movie because I'm just Ken. I think it's their way of calling me stupid. And so whenever I ask something stupid, they're like, she's just Ken.
Amy Poehler
You have two older brothers.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And what was it like growing up like with older brothers? Do you feel like there's a thing that happens to like. What's the good part about having two older brothers? Is there one?
Jennifer Lawrence
I mean, I mean, they were great. They were really protective, you know, not with themselves. They were like, you know, I mean.
Amy Poehler
Did it make you, like, tough?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I think it made me tough.
Amy Poehler
As the mother of sons, I will say. And you're gonna to eventually notice this too, because you had brothers. The way boys and young boys talk to each other won't be as shocking like you're. You're going to. It's used to it.
Jennifer Lawrence
In fact, I find myself doing.
Amy Poehler
I do too and that's kind of a love language. Like.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
When I've noticed the way that you interact with people that you work with, it also feels like you turn people into brothers. Like, feels like.
Jennifer Lawrence
I think I do.
Amy Poehler
Josh Hutcherson was a brother. It feels like Robert Pattinson feels like a brother.
Jennifer Lawrence
Like, yeah. Oh, you're so right. Right.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Doritos. Your opinion?
Jennifer Lawrence
Love them.
Amy Poehler
Me too.
Jennifer Lawrence
Cool. I mean, but now I'm, like, older and I, like, think about, like, what in it. I mean, not if I'm, like, on a plane. If I'm on a plane and I see him, I'm going to. This is going to get eight. But. Yeah, But I do think about it more.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Do you do any impressions?
Jennifer Lawrence
No. Do I? No, I don't think so.
Amy Poehler
I feel like I've seen you do. I feel like I've seen you do Real Housewives impressions. But no, I have to text during the. All right. Do you want to do the game that we do? We do this game in snl, which is. It's like, you, like, do it or die. And it's basically, you don't have to do it. We can cut it. But it's really fun to play. And you can do it to me, too. Would you just give someone a name? And they have to do it. I have to do an impression in 10 seconds. It doesn't have to be good, but if you don't do it, you'll die.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Okay, you ready? And Robert Janier. Me. You did it. You did die.
Jennifer Lawrence
Me. I would love to see a recut version of him not saying, are you talking to me? But just going, me.
Amy Poehler
I mean, I. There's. I, I. What? What's the coldest day you've ever had on set? And the hottest day you've ever had on set.
Jennifer Lawrence
Coldest was. I mean, I know, like, the real answer was, like, you know one of the Hunger Games movies where I was, like, on a frozen lake, but it was actually in Calgary doing Die My Love because it was August, so it was supposed to be warm. And so there wasn't, like, there weren't like, warming coats or anything. And, you know, I'm just in, like, a T shirt or whatever. And so that was the coldest. That, like, broke my heart, like, made me want to cry.
Amy Poehler
This proves my theory that Marty Short, you did cry because you were so cold. Yeah, this proves my theory that I said to Marty Short, like, it's never warm in Canada. Never. And it's always fucking freezing. And it's freezing in August, always. And Canadians pretend like, oh, we had a really nice day. And it's like, you did not have a nice day.
Jennifer Lawrence
I know. You were very cold.
Amy Poehler
It's really cold when you're cold and you cry on set.
Jennifer Lawrence
And it's why I didn't cry on set. I cried in my trailer to Justine. She was like, what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just feeling really cold. But I was pregnant. I just remembered. Yeah, yeah, of course I cried. Cried. I probably cried every day.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. That movie seems like there was a lot of tears.
Jennifer Lawrence
That was an interesting. It was fun to, like, play somebody. That's fun.
Amy Poehler
But you have to do some stuff, man. You have to go for it in some movies. And I'm like, this is hard. Screaming all day, crying all day.
Jennifer Lawrence
All day. Woo.
Amy Poehler
Hard. But you're so blessed.
Jennifer Lawrence
I'm blessed.
Amy Poehler
Me, hot.
Jennifer Lawrence
Blessed. Talking to blessed one over here.
Amy Poehler
Hottest day on set.
Jennifer Lawrence
Hottest day on set.
Amy Poehler
Hottest time you remember working, and it was really hot.
Jennifer Lawrence
No, I know what you mean. I answered the first one. I obviously put the context together.
Amy Poehler
I thought maybe you were thinking about something more erotic.
Jennifer Lawrence
I think it was the first Hunger Games. Yeah, the first Hunger Games. We were shooting in North Carolina. It was humid. And we had those jackets on. Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
And you had to run in those.
Jennifer Lawrence
Jackets and then running in the jackets. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Speaking of running, I feel like my next question, like, what I love about you is how you don't feel like you're competitive with other actresses and you really wish for other people's success. But in a foot race, who would win between you and Emma Stone?
Jennifer Lawrence
She's got, like, really tiny bones, and I. I just have very thick bones. So what does that mean for running? That's hard to know. Because smaller, thinner bones, you might be.
Amy Poehler
Faster out of the gate, I think.
Jennifer Lawrence
I think if I, like, got a clock in, I'd knock her out in, like, two seconds.
Amy Poehler
100%. No offense to Emma, if you're listening, but there's. You would definitely knock her out.
Jennifer Lawrence
I mean, I could take her out if it was like a fight or a wrestle she'd done me. But running, I don't know, because I don't know if her hollow bones give her an advantage.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Karaoke. What's your. What.
Jennifer Lawrence
What's your go to any man of mine? Shania Twain H. This one here.
Amy Poehler
I don't know that one. This. This is where your Kentucky comes in. Oh, any man of mine.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Look how cute she is.
Jennifer Lawrence
I still don't know this, but you like it, right?
Amy Poehler
You do the woo.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, of course. This is what a woman loves and a man of mine better be proud of man Even when I'm ugly he still better love me and I can.
Amy Poehler
Be loved Late for a date, that's.
Jennifer Lawrence
Fine but he better be on time Any man of mine say it's. It's just right Just a little too tight and anything I better to say better be okay When I had a bad hair day and if I change.
Amy Poehler
My mind.
Jennifer Lawrence
A million times I want.
Amy Poehler
To hear and say yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it that way. Oh, my God, you're good. I know.
Jennifer Lawrence
Really good. Very good.
Amy Poehler
I love karaoke, too.
Justine Shiraki
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
And I'm on key.
Amy Poehler
You were a key?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Did you ever. Did you ever. You're a good singer. No, that's not true. I just heard it. I just.
Jennifer Lawrence
I know you did.
Amy Poehler
I know you heard it. Okay.
Jennifer Lawrence
Anyway, moving on.
Amy Poehler
All right. All right. Have you ever been awarded a middle or high school superlative? Middle school or high school superlative?
Jennifer Lawrence
Most talkative two years in a row. Third year I had left, I was in New York.
Amy Poehler
You got to get out of here.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, Talked my way right out of the building.
Amy Poehler
Most talkative. Yeah, most talkative. And for me, the three that were like, cousins were talkative. Like, class clown and mischievous. Like, they all were, like, together.
Jennifer Lawrence
We didn't have those. We had talkative. Best smile. Cause I remember not getting that one. You were going for that one and, like. No, I was going for Ms. Camera.
Amy Poehler
Ms. What?
Jennifer Lawrence
Ms. Cameron. Camera is the name of the school. This is like the rural Dr.
Amy Poehler
The.
Jennifer Lawrence
Miss Camera Camera School was the name. K A M M E R E R. Camera Middle School. That's where I went to school.
Amy Poehler
Okay, we kind of went over this already. Horses. Yes or no?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Do you do that crazy thing where you insist on doing your own stunts?
Jennifer Lawrence
No.
Amy Poehler
And have you ever. I feel like, okay, great. Just keep that up.
Jennifer Lawrence
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Best album or song of the year. What are you listening to that you love?
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, I don't know any current music. Once they got rid of the radio, I really. I didn't know. I mean, how am I supposed to.
Amy Poehler
What do you mean?
Jennifer Lawrence
Know what's coming out? I just have my phone. But what part of my phone. My phone has podcasts. I mean, playlists.
Amy Poehler
Do you not listen to. Do you not.
Jennifer Lawrence
I don't listen to, like.
Amy Poehler
You don't do listen.
Jennifer Lawrence
How do you listen to live music on your phone?
Amy Poehler
Honestly, I usually learn about new music from Instagram or TikTok that I Then.
Jennifer Lawrence
Go and buy the Lily Allen. I don't know when this podcast is coming out in the future, but the Lily Allen album dropped a couple weeks ago and. Oh, I love it.
Amy Poehler
So good.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So good.
Jennifer Lawrence
I didn't know it was a Pussy Palace.
Amy Poehler
And. And Managamami Managa Mommy.
Jennifer Lawrence
So good.
Amy Poehler
So good.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. And tennis. Tennis might be my favorite song in the album.
Amy Poehler
She's so, so talented.
Jennifer Lawrence
She's so talented.
Amy Poehler
I feel like this. I. I was just saying to someone, like, I feel like the pop stars, like, they're just the female pops, like they're just dominating in every area.
Jennifer Lawrence
I know. Charlie xcx.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Jennifer Lawrence
So cool.
Amy Poehler
I know. Do you know her? I feel like you guys would hang out.
Jennifer Lawrence
I don'. Her, I mean, would she hang out with me? I don't know. I don't know if she would just call her up. I would.
Amy Poehler
Well, okay, so let me talk about your movie, Die My Love, which looks amazing. And you, once again, like, you're. If I haven't made it clear, you're so good at acting.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you very much. That's really, really nice.
Amy Poehler
And you really are doing the thing you're meant to do.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And do you feel that?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Amy Poehler
Do you feel like. Was there ever a time when you thought I. There. There's anything else I would want to do?
Jennifer Lawrence
It just feels like every time I'm on a press store.
Amy Poehler
You'Re like, you know what? Yes.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
It just doesn't feel like how does anybody like.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but do you feel like when you get on set, do you feel. Or when you're work, when you're really in the work, you feel super relaxed?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, totally.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's hard and you're tired and, you know, you'd rather be like, home. Yeah, but. But you're into it. But it's like. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So this process seemed really cool. Like, Lynn and you and Robert seemed like you guys. Lynne Ramsey, the director, it seemed like you three had some kind of way of working that seemed really creative and cool. Was that true?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, it was cool. Cause Lynn and I talked about it for, like, years before we, like, really had a script. So I felt like we had had so many conversations, like, about this person and about her circumstances, that by the time we got there, there was just like a lot of freedom that was like, kind of scary, you know, like. Like an improv type of situation where it's just like, go. Yeah, it's kind of like, under what terms Circumstances. But it was really, really fulfilling. It was, like, challenging in a nice way.
Amy Poehler
And you're playing somebody who's kind of like descending into madness. Madness. And do you. When you. When you're playing something like that, do you track. You know, are you always trying to figure out, like, where is she at in this scene? Like, how far has she gone?
Jennifer Lawrence
Kind of. I thought that I was gonna have to do that a little bit more, but it ended up just being like, finding the truth of what she was saying, like, in the moment, which I think sometimes it didn't end up being as, I don't know, like, crazy as I thought. But the costumes helped with that because I think they, like, move from a different place and so they. At first she dresses really differently and sticks out. And then as she stays there, she starts to blend in with the community. And so that was a good way that I could mark kind of like where my headspace would be.
Amy Poehler
That's a very cool idea, right, that you're realizing I'm wearing this, this. This pair of pants. Which reminds me that I'm in this.
Jennifer Lawrence
Space, but I've been here for like eight months, and it's kind of getting.
Amy Poehler
Back full circle to what we're talking about, about clothes. Like, I do feel like clothes. Like there are certain outfits, for example, that I wore during COVID that I cannot wear again because what? They just.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, because of COVID Oh, it's like when you wear like, work pants and then they get ruined because they're work pants.
Amy Poehler
Or you get broken up with in a shirt and you can never wear it again. Like clothes. Hold some memory.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, yeah. But you gotta just get em right outta there.
Amy Poehler
You gotta get him out of there.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Okay. We've mentioned your producing partner, Justine a few times.
Jennifer Lawrence
We. Have you.
Amy Poehler
Have you mentioned her twice?
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And she's like your best. Like a really longtime friend. Tell us about her.
Jennifer Lawrence
She's. Yeah, my best friend. We met right after I did Winter's Bone. So I was 19 and we fell in love with movies we, like, read together. We, like, discovered Walt Whitman together. So it was like. So we, like. I think our consciousness woke up together and we were like. And she was always like. She was my roommate when I started getting really famous. And she was really. I think I credit her a lot with, like, why I didn't speak. Start kind of getting too big for my britches or anything, because everything was really real with her. And she's just. I'm really lucky to have her. I feel Really? I love her a lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her completely. I trust her taste. She's also a really hard worker. She likes hard work. So, yeah, I'm really lucky. I wouldn't normally recommend working with friends, but in our case, worked out nicely.
Amy Poehler
You guys started a production company. Excellent Cadaver.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. You produced about six or seven years ago.
Amy Poehler
A bunch. You've been working together for a long time, and your company's produced a bunch of amazing films, including Causeway, which I think was one of my most favorite things I've ever seen you do. I love that movie. So good.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
For people who haven't seen it, check it out.
Jennifer Lawrence
It's you and Brian Tyree Henry.
Amy Poehler
Brian Tyree Henry. Incredible From Atlanta and many other things. Incredible actor. And you two play vets who are kind of physically and spiritually struggling and back home. And it's such a good. And Lila is an amazing director.
Jennifer Lawrence
Lila Neugebauer. It was her first film, but she's a big theater director and she's great. Sorry, the inside of my ear is itching. Is this gross?
Amy Poehler
No, but, you know, itchy ears are a sign of perimenopause, so. Congrats. Congrats, babe.
Jennifer Lawrence
We'll cut that.
Amy Poehler
Oh, no, we'll double that. We're gonna make it really loud.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, we're gonna.
Amy Poehler
We're going to underline it with volume.
Jennifer Lawrence
Here with perimenopause sufferer Jennifer Lawrence.
Amy Poehler
I always thought that would be a good drag. Name, by the way, is Perimenopause.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, it is. It really is.
Amy Poehler
But anyway, we talked to Justine.
Jennifer Lawrence
You did?
Amy Poehler
Yes. Oh. Because we do this thing where we have people talk about our guests and, like, talk well behind their back and give me a question to ask them. And I talked to Justine today.
Jennifer Lawrence
I should have known. I listened to this podcast. I don't know why I'm so, like, beside my. I'm surprised. What did she say?
Amy Poehler
She had a really. Which was basically like, what do you want to talk about? She was like, ask Jen what she wants to talk about and what she's sick of talking about.
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh.
Amy Poehler
Which I thought was. I know. I thought that was a good friend question.
Jennifer Lawrence
I'm sick of talking about the movie.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, great.
Jennifer Lawrence
We won't.
Amy Poehler
We're gonna cut it out.
Jennifer Lawrence
And I want to talk about.
Amy Poehler
What have we not talked about that you wanna talk about?
Jennifer Lawrence
Oh, I think we've covered everything. We've talked about things that I would have never known that I wanted to talk about, that I wanted to talk about. Yeah, So I don't. I can't answer it. Okay. Okay.
Amy Poehler
Well, what do you listen to? Watch. What do you. What makes you laugh? How do you get yourself up. Up the elevator?
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, you make me laugh.
Amy Poehler
Thank you.
Jennifer Lawrence
You're on my algorithm a lot. And you and Tina and you guys hosted a Golden Globes that I was at. And you were the funniest people I've ever seen in my life. You made me proud to be a woman.
Amy Poehler
Was that when we said that American Hustle was the title of the original.
Jennifer Lawrence
Title was Explosion at the Wig Factory. Yeah, but what.
Amy Poehler
Okay, but what do you listen to? Read. Why watch. Who makes you laugh?
Jennifer Lawrence
I watch Veep. Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
So we interviewed Julia recently.
Jennifer Lawrence
You did?
Amy Poehler
I called her the LeBron James of comedy. She's won so many championships with different teams, and she rejected that. She wouldn't accept that title.
Jennifer Lawrence
That's so her. I mean, what if she was like, thank you. I know. Yeah, she's a. She's a hero of mine. I love Modern Family.
Amy Poehler
Are you, like, a true millennial and you watch things that you've watched before just falling asleep?
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, of course. No, I'm Gen Z, and I don't know what they do. You sell robot clothes online?
Amy Poehler
Kiss your robot and sell your clothes.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Well, I mean, I feel like we covered so much good stuff.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I feel great about this interview.
Jennifer Lawrence
I do, too. I can't wait for it to come out. I'm gonna be the first to watch it.
Amy Poehler
Last question is, I know you do, like, a lot of reality tv. Tv. What show would you want to be on of all of them?
Jennifer Lawrence
Well, I mean, want to be on them. I guess the Kardashians. Because then I'd be, like, on a private plane going to, like, Fiji.
Amy Poehler
Like, that's true.
Jennifer Lawrence
Because the other ones, like, they're not. They're not, like, having a good.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Like, there's no comfort. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Because you just mentioned Amazing Race, and I feel sometimes there's, like, a little part of me that says I would do.
Jennifer Lawrence
I tried to go on Bear Grylls.
Amy Poehler
You did.
Jennifer Lawrence
They would let you. No, what happened was I was like, I was determined to do it. I ended up getting pregnant, but I was still gonna do it. And then I texted my OB GYN and was like, hey, so I'm gonna be doing Bear Grylls on, like, the 17th. Is there anything I should tell them? And he was like, you're not doing that. I was like, oh. And Then I just. After.
Amy Poehler
Do you know the show alone? Have you. Are you.
Jennifer Lawrence
I love alone. Oh, my God. Building the, the fortresses, building the cabins isn't building the houses. Isn't that the part that you want to do the most?
Amy Poehler
And if I may, the amount of energy that people build on their houses is fascinating because some people, you're like, you're going to get way too tired. This house is too nice.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah. They're burning a lot of calories.
Amy Poehler
Burning a lot of calories.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Other people, it's like you're sleeping under a tarp for six weeks.
Justine Shiraki
Like, you got to get your house together.
Amy Poehler
Like, what's wrong with you?
Jennifer Lawrence
I know.
Amy Poehler
The in between of that is fascinating to me. Yeah.
Jennifer Lawrence
The bugs, it was really satisfying. One year, a guy, white man, didn't bring a fire starter because he was just like, I can do it.
Amy Poehler
I saw that one.
Jennifer Lawrence
That was really. That was really satisfying. Then they. Schadenfreude, if you will.
Amy Poehler
I also love the men that come on really strong and immediately, like, twist an ankle.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah, I do love that.
Amy Poehler
The other thing that takes them down, down their stomachs, I'm surprised that they.
Jennifer Lawrence
Don'T have them just go with Cipro. That, like, Cipro isn't just like, in there.
Amy Poehler
Maybe they do. Maybe.
Jennifer Lawrence
I don't think they do, but I.
Amy Poehler
Mean, like, they do the, the di. Diarrhea immediately.
Jennifer Lawrence
Immediately.
Amy Poehler
I need diarrhea immediately. But they, I mean, and. And men are just. They cannot handle. When they, when they don't feel good, they just. Everything falls the apart. So they're just like, I don't feel good. You know, like, see you later, dude. And the women are just weaving baskets and staying there for a hundred days.
Jennifer Lawrence
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence, thank you. Thank you for coming.
Jennifer Lawrence
Thank you for having me.
Amy Poehler
Thank you for spending time here today.
Jennifer Lawrence
I think if any. I've overstayed my welcome.
Amy Poehler
If you want any food from the.
Jennifer Lawrence
Back, what if I just grabbed your favorite? Just grab the soup. Like, it was like, thank you. Bye.
Amy Poehler
Thank you so much. Jennifer Lawrence. That was so fun. And, and thanks for being here and, you know, for this polar plunge. I always like to dig a little deeper on something that we spoke of in the podcast. And I would just highly recommend that you watch Causeway. It's such a great film. Jennifer's so good in it. Brian Tyree Henry is so good in it. An incredible actor, directed by Lila Neugebauer. And it's just really, really good. It's just a. I don't know, I just loved it. I think you will too. Check it out. Thank you for listening. Please come back soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite for the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, cat Spillane, Kaia McMullen and Alaia Zaneris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking that your car is in park before getting out. Let's just say you won't be making that mistake twice. Yeah, checking first is smart, so check Allstate first for a quote. That could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, IL this episode is brought to you by Visible Got a resolution to save? Kick 2026 off right with Visible. It's a one line wireless plan with unlimited data and hotspot for $25 a month, taxes and fees included, all on Verizon's 5G network. It's the ultimate wireless hack to save money and still get great coverage and a reliable connection. Now for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just $19 a month for the first ring in the new year with code SWITCH26. Share the savings with a deal that is too good to keep quiet. Switch now at visible. Com. Terms apply, limited time offer subject to change. See visible.com for plan features and network management details.
Episode: Jennifer Lawrence
Release Date: January 20, 2026
Host: Amy Poehler
Guest: Jennifer Lawrence
Special Guest: Justine Shiraki (Jennifer’s longtime friend and producing partner)
In this lively and candid episode, Amy Poehler hangs out with acclaimed actress Jennifer Lawrence for a conversation that’s equal parts funny, heartfelt, and revealing. They’re joined briefly by Justine Shiraki, Jen’s best friend and producing partner at Excellent Cadaver. Topics span Jennifer’s approach to acting, friendship, parenthood, body image, fashion philosophy, comedy, and even an impromptu karaoke session. Throughout, the original tone is playful, warm, and unfiltered.
"She had this like abandon and lack of self consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends."
— Justine Shiraki (03:50)
Memorable moment:
"Big goes with big… baggy on the bottom and tight on the top, but you cannot do the other way around."
— Jennifer Lawrence (12:04)
“Basically, I think when people stay mysterious, it’s like a disservice to other women… you’re trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect.”
— Amy Poehler (15:18)
“You are so famous and so real, and those two things are not always the case.”
— Amy Poehler (16:18)
“If he had, like, told us to meet him at a hotel room, we 100% would have.”
— Jennifer Lawrence (21:17)
“I have to go back and do it again because I had walking pneumonia… I remember being too young to drink. I did, but at the Oscars.”
— Jennifer Lawrence (25:08)
“I would go into that laundry and I’d f*** that laundry up. I’d put a podcast in, I’d steam, I’d fold, I’d have a color coded system.”
— Jennifer Lawrence on what job she’d want on Below Deck (33:03)
"Fluffin? Nitro? Boobs… my brothers called me Nitro 'cause I was really hyper." (34:24, 34:40)
“They were great. Really protective… I think it made me tough.” (35:11)
“She’s got, like, really tiny bones, and I… I just have very thick bones… But running, I don’t know, because I don’t know if her hollow bones give her an advantage.”
— Jennifer Lawrence (39:28)
“You really are doing the thing you’re meant to do.”
— Amy Poehler (44:17)
“I guess the Kardashians. Because then I’d be, like, on a private plane going to Fiji.” (52:29)
This episode is a quintessential “good hang”—a warm, witty, revealing deep-dive with Jennifer Lawrence, whose chemistry with Amy Poehler results in non-stop laughs. As they riff on everything from fashion rules, millennial destiny, to diarrhea on “Alone,” Jen’s candidness and humor shine. For fans of Jen, Amy, or simply great, funny, women-led conversation, this episode is boots—period.
Boots.