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Amy Poehler
Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang with Me. Amy Poehler. Very excited about our guest today. Paige Desorbo and Hannah Berner, two great women who make up the podcast Giggly Squad. You may have listened to them on there, you may have seen them all over your social media. You might have met them in the Bravo reality show Summer House, which is great. And one of them is still on it and the other one is long gone. But we are gonna talk about really fun things today. We're gonna talk about standup comedy. We're gonna talk about female friendship. We're gonna talk about pimple patches. We're gonna decide what is the best medication for anxiety. So keep listening, check it out. And we always wanna start every episode with people that know our guests or is a fan of our guest or has an idea of what they think. I should ask our guest. And who better to talk about two young wonderful women than the mothers of these wonderful women? So. So we've got Lenore and Kimberly, Hannah and Paige's mothers joining us today who were so delightful and I could have talked to them all day. So let's hear what they have to say. This episode is presented by the Toyota Grand Highlander. Whether you're welcoming a new family member, starting fresh in a new city or embarking on ambitious adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander provides versatility for embracing life's grand challenges. Like how you can effortlessly tuck away the fold. Flat rear seats for up to 97.5 cubic feet of cargo space. Perfect if your cargo is baby elephant sized. From daily routines to life changing adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander is up for every grand challenge. Learn more@toyota.com Grand Highlander, Toyota. Let's go places.
Paige Desorbo
Get up. What do you say?
Amy Poehler
I'm sorry, Thrill. You guys are talking to me today. Thank you so much. We're doing this. We do this thing on good hang where we check in with people who know the guest or who are fans of the guest or who want to tell me questions they think I should ask the guest. And we thought there was no better people to talk about Paige and Hannah than their moms.
Kimberly
I would say that's probably true.
Amy Poehler
They played Radio City. What is it like to see your kids playing Radio City?
Lenore
I still don't believe it.
Kimberly
No, it was unreal. It really. I just. We pinched ourselves. I'm like, this can't be happening.
Lenore
I remember when they booked it, I just thought, you're like, I couldn't believe that was happening. And then they sold out the first show and added A second show. And then I thought, oh, no, they're never going to sell tickets to a second show. And then they sold out the second show. And I thought, what is happening?
Kimberly
And we get nervous for them, but we don't tell them, like when. Lenora is exactly right. When I'm like, you're adding a second show for Radio City? What are you nuts? Like, no way are you going to sell that out.
Amy Poehler
What was it like being on tour, Kimberly, you went on tour with the girls. Where did you go? How long were you there and what was it like?
Kimberly
I love it. I mean, it's just, you know, I stay, I don't go out on stage or anything. Our husbands have gone out on stage, but I just stay in the background and I'm just really there if she needs something, you know, and it's nice to be with the girls and I love watching. I always say the best part of their show is when they're first together, whether it's in the green room or they're getting their hair and makeup done. Because when Hannah and Paige are together, it's like no one else exists and they're just. It's a show. I like, always say to my sister, oh, you have to come when they're getting their hair and makeup done. Because that's the best part, right, Lenore?
Lenore
I mean, it's the warm up act.
Kimberly
I think their bond is just incredible and so needed in today's environment, Really.
Amy Poehler
I agree. I feel like their genuine friendship is really nice to be around. I think that's what you like so much about them, is how genuine they are as people. But then their friendship and bond with each other is why you keep coming back.
Kimberly
Yes.
Amy Poehler
You know. And Lenore, what was it like to have your daughter be on reality tv?
Lenore
Honestly, I. I don't know how Paige has hung in there so long.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah.
Lenore
Let's just say it wasn't a good fit, right? It was not a good fit for Hannah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Stressful.
Lenore
She jokes about how, you know, she's an athlete, she's very coachable. And so you put a producer in her ear and tells her, oh, you know, do this, it'll be great, do that. And she's like, tell me how high to jump, I'll do it. And then she doesn't realize she's making a disaster for herself in the edit.
Kimberly
To Hannah's credit, I always say this. If Paige went through what Hannah did on the reality part of it, Paige would have moved back home and you would have never seen her again. Really? I say that to Paige all the time. Like, I am so impressed with Hannah's perseverance, and, I mean, she blew everyone out of the water. You know, just having a Netflix special. Like, come on, who?
Lenore
You know, she's a fighter, and she's very competitive so that you couldn't take away from her.
Amy Poehler
I'm wondering if there's a question that either one of you think I should ask them. Anything you want to know. Doesn't have to be big or deep. It can be. Is there anything you think I should ask them today?
Kimberly
Are you pregnant?
Lenore
I'm kidding.
Amy Poehler
Okay, I'll start the podcast by asking them both that.
Kimberly
I think, though, a great question is, like, are they enjoying themselves? Right? I. You know, what do they enjoy about it?
Amy Poehler
Well, I. I am so thankful that you guys gave time today. I think they're gonna be thrilled that we got to talk today. I mean, now you're making me think I should always talk to everybody's mom. Because you really do get a sense, really get a sense really fast. I'm sure you feel this way, too when you meet somebody's parents. And the older you get, when you meet somebody's parents, you're like, oh, now I get it. And it's either a now I get it, I understand why they're so great, or sometimes it's a now I get it why they're so fucked up.
Paige Desorbo
Right.
Lenore
Well, maybe you should have the dads on.
Amy Poehler
No, it really means a lot that you both gave time, and I'm excited to talk to them. I think they're so great, and the stuff that they've built together, I think is an indication of the strength of female friendship. I think it's, you know, it's a natural resource. Female friendship and the way it drives the world and the way they talk about it and model it is really, really cool and special. So thank you both. It's really nice to meet you both.
Kimberly
Really, it was an honor. I never was this on my bingo card pages. I'm like, what? Huge fan, Amy.
Amy Poehler
We love you, Amy. You guys. And you both sound exactly like your daughters. And you look like they're older sisters. You do look Gen X all the way.
Kimberly
You're definitely our favor.
Lenore
The Mom Giggly squad.
Amy Poehler
Thank you so much.
Paige Desorbo
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
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Amy Poehler
Hi, Hannah and Paige.
Paige Desorbo
Hi, Amy.
Amy Poehler
It's so good to have you guys here. We're thumbing through your book, how to Giggle, which we're going to talk about.
Paige Desorbo
We have to say thumbing. That's a good. We should bring that back.
Amy Poehler
We're thumbing through it. Yeah, we're coming. You know, I have so many things I want to talk to you about today. I am huge fans of both of you, and I love your podcast and I love your friendship, and I love you individually and together as a unit.
Hannah Berner
Oh, my God, thank you.
Paige Desorbo
That's actually the only credit we need. Once I heard she listens to the pod, I was like, we can retire.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we're done.
Paige Desorbo
What is there to do? It's only downhill from here, that's for sure.
Amy Poehler
I tell you, it is going to talk about that. About how life goes downhill. No, but I talk to your moms and, you know, so we have this thing on the. On good hang where we talk kind of about people behind their back in a good way. I. I was very different for us.
Paige Desorbo
She's like, your mom's had shit to say.
Amy Poehler
But they are so great. They, of course, love you so much.
Paige Desorbo
But if they were like, the girls are monsters. This is an intervention.
Amy Poehler
And they had. They had questions that I wanted to see our interview with because I thought they were really important, pertinent questions for the both of you. Hannah, Lenore wanted to know, are you pregnant?
Hannah Berner
And Paige. That's a wild question.
Amy Poehler
And Paige Kim wanted to know, are you enjoying yourself?
Paige Desorbo
Oh, that's such a.
Hannah Berner
Her question.
Paige Desorbo
Two extremely difficult questions.
Amy Poehler
We can get to them later. But they're both answers.
Hannah Berner
Questions, no. Easy, done. Not pregnant and not having fun. Not having a good time.
Paige Desorbo
No.
Hannah Berner
But I will say, yes, I'm having a great time. Like in the year, Hannah and I, I feel like our careers have kind of taken a turn, but I would not be having this much fun if I wasn't doing it with Hannah. Like, I don't know if it would be the same experience at all.
Paige Desorbo
I mean, I know it wouldn't be Stockholm syndrome syndromey. What you're hearing from her.
Amy Poehler
Okay. So for People listening, like my mom, who might not know. Giggly Squad. Yeah, who? Can you guys quickly tell us how you came together, who you're doing your podcast Giggly Squad. But how did you first meet? And how are you a team?
Hannah Berner
Do you want to go or you want me to go?
Paige Desorbo
Okay, I'll begin. Also, by the way, we are in a, like, non sexual marriage. So if we have that kind of interaction on half of America, we're in a partnership. Yes, America. So we. And let me know if I'm overstepping, Paige. But we're like, we'll talk about this later. You embarrass me in front of Amy. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. So.
Hannah Berner
So anyway, we'll be sleeping on the couch.
Paige Desorbo
We're just trying to not explain what Giggly Squad is. People, like, they don't know what their own podcast is. No, Giggly Squad. It stemmed from Paige and I both got casted on a reality TV show.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
Which was crazy. It was never what Paige wanted to be an entertainment reporter. I wanted to be a stand up comedian. And we found herself on reality tv. Scared, alone, worried. But we had this trauma bond from it fast. And people liked our friendship, which is weird. It's weird for anyone to comment on you when they don't really know you.
Amy Poehler
Totally.
Paige Desorbo
But for some reason, in the reality TV zeitgeist, they were like, hannah, Paige are entertaining and relatable. I guess.
Hannah Berner
Yeah. And I think we, like, obviously we didn't know anything about reality tv, so, like, we would watch it back and we would be like, oh, we feel like we were funnier, like, while we were filming. Or we feel like people aren't really getting our friendship.
Paige Desorbo
They definitely cut the best punchlines because.
Hannah Berner
We'D be in the bathroom and we'd be like to the camera guy, like, hey, why don't you come with us? We're gonna, like, really run a bit in the bathroom. And they're like, we don't care.
Paige Desorbo
We didn't realize that there's a basic.
Amy Poehler
Have room for this?
Paige Desorbo
Yeah, there's a basic storyline and they have to cut down to 42 minutes. And Paige and I are going on these callbacks and we're. There's nothing to do with the plot.
Hannah Berner
Oh, that's definitely gonna be in the show. That was hilarious. And like, of course it's not in there.
Paige Desorbo
And in all my interviews, they'd be like, we need you to be angrier. And I was like, I don't even remember. I was drunk, so I don't know why? I'd be mad. But fast forward. Covid hits.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
And we're FaceTiming. Everyone's depressed, everyone's scared again, more trouble.
Hannah Berner
And we're both home in our parents houses.
Amy Poehler
And we're like Lenore and Kimberly. Yeah.
Hannah Berner
And we're like 28 years old and we're like, so what's gonna happen to us? Like, are we gonna get married? Are we gonna like start a business? Like, what's gonna happen? Like all the COVID stuff.
Paige Desorbo
Are we gonna live?
Hannah Berner
And so we would FaceTime for like four hours a day. And we'd be like, we're funny. Like, this is funny. People would think we're funny. And so then we were like, okay, let's just go on Instagram Live. It was like, well, I'm.
Amy Poehler
I'm a weird. Like I have weird blind spots about all that stuff because I just started doing social media like a couple years ago because I was on. I know, it's.
Paige Desorbo
No, it sounds so beautiful. Amy, we are so envious of you.
Hannah Berner
What is Instagram?
Paige Desorbo
When I saw you on Instagram, I was like, oh, no.
Amy Poehler
I know.
Paige Desorbo
Say goodbye to your innocence.
Amy Poehler
It's so true. Like I really. And. And. But I know about Instagram Live. I think I've done a few, but I never.
Hannah Berner
But it was a weird time.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah, it was very weird. I remember the first time we went live. Justin Bieber also went live. And then we created John Mayer. So we created a beef. We were like, they don't support women in the arts. And they knew we were going live at this time. And then they went. It was such a weird time.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, so weird. And so we went live every Single night for three months. 10pm for an hour.
Paige Desorbo
That's how Giggly Squad started.
Amy Poehler
It was just the two of you?
Hannah Berner
Just the two of you talk.
Paige Desorbo
We were diligent. 10:00pm we were going on and people.
Hannah Berner
Sometimes we'd mix a cocktail, like. And so it started where we'd have like 500 people watching. Then the next night it was like 2,000. Then the next day was like 5,000. We were like, wait, this, like, what's going on? And we had no, like, structure. Yeah, no structure.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Paige Desorbo
And then nothing was happening every day. What were we possibly talking about? But we were in.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, we were in the comments.
Paige Desorbo
It was like this community of women and gays that like, wanted and just like curious straight men who.
Hannah Berner
Which is the most dangerous kind of straight man.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but there are lots of straight.
Paige Desorbo
Men who are bored. That's when bad things happen.
Amy Poehler
No, no, no. Why?
Paige Desorbo
Are you bored? Go answer an email. So they. They would, like, comment all these funny things. And we were like, what is this community of, like, girls who were so funny and silly? And it was this light. And then we had to go film Summer House. Summer House. And we had to stop doing the lives because we were locked in a house.
Hannah Berner
And then the world kind of opened up, and we were like, okay, I guess we'll make it a podcast. But, like, we had no, like, going into it. We weren't like, we should start a podcast together. So it just kind of naturally happened.
Paige Desorbo
She had to debate. I was like. Because I'd been podcasting for a bit, right? And I was like, paige, you should podcast. And she's like, I don't have a face for radio.
Hannah Berner
You can do that.
Paige Desorbo
That sounds like something you would do.
Amy Poehler
We're gonna have to film it.
Paige Desorbo
I'm not made for podcast.
Hannah Berner
I was like, have you seen my bone structure? That's such an insult to me.
Paige Desorbo
I remember having to explain to her, well, it's funny.
Amy Poehler
When I started this podcast, I'm like, oh, we have to shoot it. Not like, now.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I just had somebody come up the other day and say, oh, I just watched your podcast, which is like, it's kind of crazy.
Hannah Berner
That's taken over.
Paige Desorbo
Your clips are everywhere right now, and.
Hannah Berner
You gotta have those clips.
Paige Desorbo
You gotta. That's why we're not allowed to have too long conversations. We gotta stop a quick.
Hannah Berner
Right.
Amy Poehler
You're right. Let's.
Paige Desorbo
For 45 seconds, I'm just gonna throw.
Amy Poehler
Out a bunch of wor. These are not my glasses, by the way. I forgot my glasses.
Paige Desorbo
She just stole it from a random person outside.
Amy Poehler
But when you went back on Summer House, after all that talk, you must have felt psyched that you knew each other so well. Like, you had gone from. You know, you had had a season, right? And then you shut down because of COVID Two seasons. Two seasons. Two seasons. Then you shut down. And then during that time, your friendship grew. So you came back in knowing, like, oh, I'm with my friend.
Hannah Berner
We kind of always were like that. Like, oh, I have a friend. Because we were both new at the same time, so we already had that bond, like, that first day. And Hannah and I truly are so different in so many ways, but our humor is the exact same. So from the day we met, it was like, this is my best friend not to get.
Paige Desorbo
Look at me getting dark. But I keep going. I'm starting to get dark. But I think you might understand this. In any kind of trauma you're going through. The only thing I've ever been able to control is laughter. So, like, in reality tv, there's multiple scenes where, like, I'm sobbing about something, and then I'll try to crack a joke because it's the only thing that I can control. And that's something that I think Giggly Squad is about, is about taking your life less seriously in spite. All of you. Can't control your relationships, your job, any of it. But we can choose to laugh instead of cry.
Amy Poehler
And I think it's the elevator, like, to me, like, that takes you from the basement. It's, like, the fastest if you can find a way to go from crying to laughing. It's hard, but it's a huge. It feels kind of like the fastest way to remember that life is a dream and that nothing matters if you can get there. And it's with people that you can do it with people. Like, you can do it with people that you trust. And it's kind of what we've been talking about in this podcast is it's so dark right now. Everything is really tough. And I just want to do, for my own mental health and for others to do what I do in my personal life, which is to talk to my friends and laugh and have a good hangout.
Hannah Berner
And have a good hangout.
Everyone needs that one person in their life where it's, like, you can call them and they make you feel better about anything. It, Like, a spouse or, like, in my case, it's Hannah. Like, truly, if anything happens to me, like, online that I'm, like, deep in, and, like, everyone hated my outfit. Like, you know, something, like, stupid.
Paige Desorbo
She's like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
Hannah Berner
No. I'm like, I'll never financially recover from this.
Paige Desorbo
It was a sparkly boa. I'm like, they don't get it.
Hannah Berner
I'm like, they don't get it. No pants is actually really in. Like, I can call Hannah and say anything, and she really does, like, bring me back down to earth. And, like, I will then, like, laugh at something, and then I'll be on to the next thing. So, like, I really feel like everyone needs that one person. Yeah. Where you can just.
Paige Desorbo
We also were going through very unique things.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
Like, something would happen with reality TV that you can't talk to, like, your mom necessarily. I mean, you can. And my mom's like, why'd you do it?
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
But Paige would be like, yeah, I did that last Week, and this is how I got through it.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
So we've just had unique experiences, but Giggly squad has become us. Talking about just the mundane, I think. And girls have connected with it.
Amy Poehler
I bet you get asked a question. Like, Tina and I used to get asked this all the time, which is, what do you two fight about?
Hannah Berner
Yeah. Nothing. We've literally ne. And we work together too. Like, the podcast is obviously a business. So, like, will we have, like, business phone calls? Yeah, like, kind of. It's not like we have, like, a set time where we're like, let's talk business.
Paige Desorbo
We've had, like, other people definitely try to get in the way of our friendship. Which leads me to the Akon song, Nobody want to see us together, but I don't matter. No.
Hannah Berner
The fact that you had to break out into songs.
Paige Desorbo
I can't believe I just did that in front of Akon. Also, that was definitely a copyright issue.
Amy Poehler
I don't know the song. I'm sorry.
Paige Desorbo
I'll send it to you after. It's gonna change your life.
Amy Poehler
I do know Akon. I know.
Hannah Berner
I know who they are.
Paige Desorbo
But there's this kind of level of. There's been moments where people have tried to kind of turn us against each other, which has, like, made us stronger in a way.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
The only thing we've ever fought about is she has to stand on a certain side, and it's so diva that it's. I can't, because we would literally did the Vanity Fair Oscar party, and my dress had, like, a side, and I was like, hannah, I have to stand on this side. Like, my dress. And she was. And she looked at me in the eye, and she goes, I'll literally die if I have to stand.
Paige Desorbo
That was the first time I ever stood up for myself. And I said, sorry, she's okay. She was a limited two model.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. She's got all good sizes.
Paige Desorbo
She has all the sides. And all I wanted was to feel confident my day. And one of my sides happens to be deformed. You're seeing it right now.
Amy Poehler
I do disagree.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
I disagree. There's a little dysmorphia going on there. But I know what you mean, though. A woman knows what. What her side is, and I wasn't.
Hannah Berner
Gonna solve the dysmorphia in that 10 minutes. I was like, you know, it's so.
Paige Desorbo
Funny you brought that up, because it means you still haven't moved forward from it, because that was weeks ago.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, well, that's the thing about comedy is you have to depend. You have to decide how much you're gonna care.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
All the time when it comes to performing. Because I was a tennis player. Tennis was really like, you're a winner or you're a fucking loser. Like you can't walk off the court. You can be like, I played well, it's intense competition. But tennis, like, I really dealt with like very result oriented. So when I started doing comedy, I was like, oh, this is art. Like I can, I could be authentic and raw and if people don't like it, I'm like subjective. It's subjective. That's you're projecting onto me and. And I'm so lucky I'm getting paid to be goofy. Where tennis. I really felt like every day was judgment day.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
So comedy, I've kind of retrained my brain to be like, you don't have to be mean to yourself like you were with tennis. So I cuz I feel like I've lived a couple lives before comedy with comedy. I've been, I've been really nice to myself and I think, I hope other people can do the same if they're being mean to themselves with like how they're doing in their careers.
Amy Poehler
I think that what you're saying is really important because so much of being funny is being relaxed and it's like less about content.
Paige Desorbo
Not to shit on comedians, but I do it. I don't like when comedians take it so seriously. I'm like, if the audience laughs, you did a great job. I can make a life. Stuff like this.
Amy Poehler
Let's be, let's be serious. Like it's like when you're in a comedy club, it's like, okay, get out of here.
Paige Desorbo
This is an important part of me. Polar.
Amy Poehler
But, but, but the.
Hannah Berner
But I'm mortified.
Amy Poehler
But when you go backstage and all the men. It's usually men, sometimes women, but it's like with their headphones on, like pacing, going over their set. And it's like, I saw your set.
Paige Desorbo
It's.
Amy Poehler
It's okay. It's not that great. It's okay.
Hannah Berner
They're like pregaming to Eminem.
Amy Poehler
It's pretty tough to talk to standups in general because we have the improv. Because they are just always performing at you. And they're also either having done a set or about to do a set. And they're just trying to figure out what went wrong. And so they're just staring at like right past you doing their bit. And it's tough.
Paige Desorbo
Every now and then I practice my bits on Paige without her knowing, which is super annoying.
Hannah Berner
That's how I feel.
Paige Desorbo
Like, she knows I didn't get a microphone. Because my thing is, if Paige laughs.
Hannah Berner
I'm like, you make me light you in five minutes.
Paige Desorbo
What are you talking about? But I have become aware that, like, it's really annoying to constantly just be wanting to take laughter from people. And there's. There has to be this.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
This vulnerability. It's. It's annoying.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. It feels like, you know, you have to be aware that sometimes people feel like your audience rather than, you know. But do you. What is your relationship to being funny? Because you're very funny.
Hannah Berner
Okay. My whole personality has been built out of. Because when I was younger, my brother is so funny. His timing is great. He's so smart. He just, like, knows when something's gonna hit. So my dad would always be laughing at my brother, and he's like, five years older than me. And I started to get so frustrated. I was just like, dad, I'm also funny. And my dad was like, well, you haven't made me laugh.
Paige Desorbo
You're beautiful.
Hannah Berner
You're beautiful. You can't read. Stay in your lane. And I. So I would get so annoyed.
Paige Desorbo
He's older and smarter and older and smarter.
Hannah Berner
But my brother always loved comedy. So, like, I would always watch stand ups. I always knew who, like, famous comedians were. And so then just like, over time, I think just hanging out with my brother and my dad, like, I got certain timing.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
But I was never, like, outwardly funny. Like, I don't think in high school anyone would have described me as like, oh, she was, like, so funny in class. It really wasn't until I met Hannah that I feel like I was more open about being funny.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
Like, my friends would say, yeah, like, she's funny sometimes. Where now I'm like, if you don't think I'm funny, I hate you.
Yes.
Like, then you don't get me. Then you don't get, like, my personality.
Paige Desorbo
It's funny how people can be mirrors to you. Like, if you surround yourself with people that. I mean, your dad now is like, paige, you're hilarious. How do we not know? But a lot of friends I'd be with, like, they don't want you to be funny or that's not how they see you.
Hannah Berner
But I could never do standup.
Amy Poehler
You could.
Paige Desorbo
I think she can.
Amy Poehler
I think you could say, I don't think women should say anymore. I can. I could never do anything because I think, don't. You can do.
Hannah Berner
I could do it. I don't want to.
Paige Desorbo
No, we have. She doesn't want to stand.
Hannah Berner
I don't want to.
Paige Desorbo
She doesn't want to stand for an.
Hannah Berner
Hour with no chair. Get a grip.
Paige Desorbo
That's her.
Hannah Berner
In this economy, you could Dave Chappelle.
Paige Desorbo
And sit with a cigarette.
Amy Poehler
I would love that.
Paige Desorbo
The jewel, the mango Jewel.
Amy Poehler
Just get an IV while you do it and sit there and just get other things done.
Paige Desorbo
You get your nails done for three hours a week, and you can't stand.
Amy Poehler
Actually, that would be amazing if you got your nails done while. That is sick.
Hannah Berner
I'm like, I have to fit it in. It does. It takes a while.
Amy Poehler
I really relate because Tina and I are on tour, and I want to talk about your tour. And we have. I pushed her. I was like, let's do stand up. And Tina was like, we don't really. And I was like, but we do. And also, we can. And also. Let's just keep trying it and try new material and use this section to try new stuff.
Paige Desorbo
Well, with. With us, with our tour, we. We do a lot of improv, but then whenever a joke really hits, we keep it. So it's basically like you doing improv but then being able to save everything that works and doing it again.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, it's.
Paige Desorbo
It's just such a different. It's a different form of comedy, but the hard part's done. You're funny.
Amy Poehler
I'm always so suspicious of when people start gatekeeping stuff as being really hard. I mean. Yeah, with the exception of, like, science.
Hannah Berner
And, like, real hard stuff.
Amy Poehler
Real hard stuff. Like math.
Hannah Berner
Things that you have to controversial.
Paige Desorbo
Are we expecting science on the spot?
Hannah Berner
We believe in science.
Amy Poehler
We believe in science. And I said it for the first.
Hannah Berner
Time today, like, I would have never even thought to go on a tour or even been or said, like, yeah, I want to do this. If it wasn't for Hannah being like, Paige, you can go out on a stage and, like, be funny.
Amy Poehler
What do you like and not like about being on tour?
Hannah Berner
I always say, like, the beginning, like, before we go out on stage, when we're in the green room is my favorite part, because that's when we're just, like, waiting to, like, go do something.
Amy Poehler
Your mom's brought that up, really, that, like, Kim being on tour, she was saying the best part. I always tell people the best part is before you are on stage and it's just the two of you getting hair and makeup. Just like.
Hannah Berner
Because we're literally. It's like we're waiting to, like, go to a Party or something.
Paige Desorbo
Except every now and then, Paige started this thing. She likes to show up in, like, her sweats.
Hannah Berner
I'm an athlete.
Paige Desorbo
She's practicing. She's like, let's not get dressed up until right before. But I'm not organized. So I show up in my sweats, and then I take out my backpack and I'm like, I left my left heel in the hotel. This is really, really, really bad. And I forget clothes all the time, where pages are perfect.
Hannah Berner
This is dscryb's tour. We were in Denver. We had just started our tour. You talking about Denver? I know. We're about to go out on stage in like 15 minutes. And I'm like, no, I think I'm. I think I'm having a panic attack. My hands are numb. I'm crying, I'm throwing up. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm having a panic attack. Hannah's trying to, like, play spa music in the background.
Paige Desorbo
She's like, I found on YouTube spa music. And I just put it at her face.
Hannah Berner
Okay, is this helping? I'm like, not at all. I'm literally in the midst of crying. Tears are running down my face. I realize that Hannah has forgotten her shirt that she's wearing out on stage. So she's gonna wear, like, this silk pajama shirt that, like, the venue had given us, like, this merch. I can't even speak, and the only words I can get out is, you can't wear that shirt on stage. And she looks over at me and she's like, you're having a panic attack and you're gonna tell me what I'm gonna wear. Luckily, I had like, a T shirt in my bag that was like, extra whatever, and I was like, put this on. She put that on. Her outfit was fine. And then I got out of my panic attack.
Amy Poehler
But that's a great example of, like, she got you.
Hannah Berner
After a lot of beta blockers and.
Paige Desorbo
Xanax, she facetimes her mom cuz she's like, hannah, this isn't working. I'm FaceTiming Kim. So I'm just listening, supporting, and all I hear is, paige, stop. Paige, stop it. You're fine, Paige, you're fine. She hangs up. We start dying, laughing. We were like, your mom just told you to stop.
Hannah Berner
She's like, panic attacks aren't real.
Paige Desorbo
And that's two generations of women. She's like, back in my day, we suck up.
Amy Poehler
Okay, well, that is true. We never even had the word anxiety.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah, you did snl.
Amy Poehler
I had a High school boyfriend who used to get stomach aches. And we were like, huh, I wonder why? And he would just be up all night.
Paige Desorbo
And now you realize it was because of you. The second he broke up, he's like, my stomach feels great.
Amy Poehler
He's like, it totally went away. I was like, okay, I wonder what it was. And he used to be up all night worried about the future. Yeah. Get stomach aches. And everyone was just like, huh, Shoot. I guess.
Hannah Berner
Drink some pipes. I hope you fix that.
Amy Poehler
There was no discussion.
Paige Desorbo
You bring up relaxation a lot in this episode. I was wondering, because you've dealt with some of the most high pressure live performances in entertainment, period. Do you have any advice for us? When you feel like your career is hanging by a thread?
Hannah Berner
Do you ever take a beta blocker?
Paige Desorbo
Give something funny?
Amy Poehler
I've never taken a beta blocker and a lot of people have told me about this. I would be worried it would slow me down.
Hannah Berner
Yeah. Okay. So here's the thing. Why I like it. It's not for anxiety. It's for blood pressure. So, like, it doesn't do anything to me because I am very against Xanax. I don't like the way Xanax makes me feel.
Amy Poehler
You have to really, really be careful.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, I didn't like that where when I took a beta blocker before I went out on stage, it just like took away my hand sweating. So that's why I like it.
Paige Desorbo
It's good with physical reactions. Like, you know, when you're so over prepared for a performance, but you know your body's gonna turn on you right beforehand and you're gonna get the shakes and your lips quivering. Beta blocker for me, I've taken just. It just calms your heart rate so I feel more normal. But not your brain. Yeah, but it's nothing normal. It depends on the person. I took it. Did I take it? I didn't take it for Fallon. I took it for my Netflix special, by the way. Thank you. I was having a lot of like, panic because I felt like it was a make or break career moment for me and I blew it out of proportion in my head. But I've never experienced that level of performance before and stand ups never recorded. So I just went to a dark place in my head. I'm like, what if I blink?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like my anxiety tends to come after I do something. I get a little. I get a little kind of zoning before and then after. I get very fluttery and nervous and it's a little bit like Was that good? Did I do like. I kind of check out. I disassociate. Which our gen is really good at. Really healthy.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
You know, like just float above your body.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And get out of your body. And then when I'm like sucked back into my body, that's when I get shaky after something more than before something. It's almost like I get the, the.
Hannah Berner
After adrenaline comes down.
Paige Desorbo
Did I say that right? Did I disagree with everyone? Totally.
Amy Poehler
Was it good do? Yeah. Did I even do it? Like, did it even happen?
Paige Desorbo
We're dark. Really?
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
What is my name? Planet Earth?
Amy Poehler
We are just, just don't be there.
Paige Desorbo
I don't even remember the 90s.
Amy Poehler
I think you guys are trying to be too present. Like you're trying to be too in the moment, be out of the moment, be out of the room.
Paige Desorbo
I do think cuz our generation is so aware of mental health, we're always trying to like be like, okay, this is anxiety and this is PTSD and this is ocd. And a lot of it is true. But then there's a moment where it's like, and now let's. How do we cope?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
To not let it beat us and not let it suppress like who we want to be.
Amy Poehler
Well, I think, and I'm sure like from your athlete days, like there is a thing about your brain and you know, everyone has different capacities for this, so I realize that. But there is something about your brain where you, if you start to tell your brain something, you can trick your brain for a short amount of time to get the thing done. And yes, if you start labeling the different, like anxiety, ocd. This is this, this is this. It's happening again. You're starting to tell your brain like, we're doing it. We're doing it. Yeah, we're here, we're doing it. There is a little trick sometimes it works for me where being excited and being anxious are the same physical symptoms, physical feelings. So if you say, look at how excited I am rather than how anxious I am, it doesn't help when you're like at the dentist or something and you're like, I'm so excited to be at the dentist.
Paige Desorbo
They say a little bit of anxiety, especially in sports, is good and it helps you actually perform at more focused level. So a little anxiety is important. Like if you're ever not nervous before a gig. I get a little nervous. I'm like, someone's about to be loosey goosey.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
That actually helped me when we were on tour, like after my first Panic attack. And then I would, like, take a beta blocker before. Like, I'd be like, shoot, I hope it doesn't happen again. Hannah would always say to me, like, it's good to be a little nervous. You care about what you're doing. And that truly would, like, calm me down.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Hannah Berner
She'd also push me out on stage.
Paige Desorbo
I would literally attack her, like, bunt kick onto the street.
Hannah Berner
Like, your adrenaline will kick in. We hope so.
Amy Poehler
Here you go. Go ahead, honey. You got it. And also, doesn't it help you because taking care of somebody is a great distraction.
Paige Desorbo
Oh, I was. I wasn't the problem for, like, the first time ever, so. But I was, like, forgetting my shirt because I was so obsessed with, like. Is Paige okay?
Amy Poehler
Well, you might have a little ADHD because you said you forget your shoes. Yeah.
Hannah Berner
I wish you didn't say that, because.
Paige Desorbo
I could talk about this forever.
Hannah Berner
But it's all she says to me. She's like, like, well, I suffer from adhd. And I'm like, I've never seen a doctor.
Paige Desorbo
I wouldn't say suffer. I would say, I thrive.
Hannah Berner
You live with it. I'm like, you've never seen a doctor. You've only got been given Tick tocks about this. And so I really need you to not to stop bringing it up.
Amy Poehler
You're right. Everyone on Tick Tock tells me that I have it or that they have it or we all have it. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, but that is how I diagnose most things. Yeah.
Hannah Berner
I'm like, no, you just want to sleep an extra hour. You don't have adhd. You literally just press snooze.
Paige Desorbo
No, I told my other friend. I was like, I think I have adhd. And she was like, yeah, everyone knows that about you. And I was like, no one told me this whole time.
Amy Poehler
You know, Kim from Paperkite, she had a really. One of our producers, she had a really great thing where she said, you can tell you have ADHD if someone says, we have to leave in five minutes or we're gonna miss the flight. And someone says, all right, let me just take a shower.
Hannah Berner
That's her.
Paige Desorbo
That's the only time I start cleaning. I'm like, this.
Amy Poehler
We have to leave in five minutes is like, great, Let me take a shower. It's like, what? Yeah, that is. That's a good indication that maybe time is more of a concept.
Hannah Berner
You always do. I also will always have to go to the bathroom when we have to leave.
Paige Desorbo
Yes.
Hannah Berner
I also.
Paige Desorbo
I also will, like, Leave the shower. Just shaving one leg and find out, like, two days later. But these are all things that make me beautiful.
Amy Poehler
Absolutely, Absolutely. Absolutely special and beautiful. And then what? And then. Is there anything that you have, Paige?
Hannah Berner
Like, when I make a mistake.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
I feel like for me, I. Oh, I think maybe this is because of reality tv. I'm very quick to want to, like, defend myself of, like, oh, no, I didn't make a mistake. You're just not seeing it from my perspective. And, like, what I meant to do was this. Or what I meant to say was this. And I feel like in my 30s, I've not mastered at all, but I've worked harder to be like. And not everyone is gonna like me. And I don't need everyone to like me. I don't like everyone that you can.
Paige Desorbo
Say, I don't like me.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, well, that too. I'm like, imagine hating on me, and I'm at home hating on me. So I feel like I've had to, like, overcome that of, like, not everyone is going to like you, and not everyone is going to think you're funny, and not everyone's going to love your outfits. And that's okay because you think you're funny and you like what you're wearing. And so that's been, like, a struggle. I think reality tv, like, brought that up because really, like, the human brain. I'm not supposed to see 200 people commenting how much they hate me.
Paige Desorbo
Like, I seen that has no comment. Yeah.
Hannah Berner
Like, I'm not supposed. As a human, I'm not supposed to be able to read that.
Amy Poehler
No.
Hannah Berner
And there's, like, this new thing on TikTok where it's like, we were never meant to see ourselves. Like, mirrors were, like, invented. Like, we were never supposed to see what we look like.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Hannah Berner
And I feel like that with being so public and, like, social media, we really weren't supposed to see how people feel about us. And so I think that's.
Amy Poehler
That you heard that saying, what other people think of you is none of your business.
Paige Desorbo
We were about to say our new thing is saying, it's on my business.
Amy Poehler
It's a fantastic way. And I mean. But. But when you're on a show, like, you're still on Summer House.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
That's hard. It's hard because you have to talk about people in real time. You have to hear.
Hannah Berner
And then for a year after, like, you don't get to move on until a year after.
Paige Desorbo
It's hard not to take it personally because people are, like, talking about who you are as a person.
Hannah Berner
Yeah. And I'm like, no, no, no, let me explain. Explain that one moment. And it's like, no, no, I don't need to explain that one moment. No one cares.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. But being misunderstood is. Is painful.
Hannah Berner
It's painful, but I really feel like.
Paige Desorbo
People who want to misunderstand you will, and people who want to understand you will, and that's, like, how you get a little peace with it.
Amy Poehler
Do you ever talk about. Do you ever clarify things about the show on your podcast?
Hannah Berner
Never.
Paige Desorbo
I've never said. I've never said what actually happened in my last season.
Hannah Berner
We've never spoken about Summer House. We' we don't, honestly, because when we started, we were, like, one of the first podcasts to come out of Bravo. I think maybe there was, like, one or two others, and they were really adamant of, like, this is not a Bravo podcast. Do not speak about Bravo. And we were like, totally fine with us. Like, we weren't going to anyway. We wanted it to be more pop culture. And so now people are kind of surprised if they find us from Bravo because they're like, they never talk about Bravo. And it's like, yeah, well, we weren't allowed to in the beginning, and now, like, yeah, it doesn't really go with who we are and, like, what we talk about. So it's actually better that way.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I mean, it definitely does. You're practicing what you're saying, which is kind of letting go of things that you can't have control over, because then.
Hannah Berner
It would be too. In the wee. It's too much.
Paige Desorbo
Also, it's funny you brought up mistakes, because I feel like. I don't know. I don't speak for you, but, like, I really have just failed upwards. Does that make sense? Like, I.
Hannah Berner
You've been fired so many times, and.
Paige Desorbo
I love every time, and I love. I'm.
Amy Poehler
And I'm sorry to say this, but we're gonna ask you. We need to ask you to leave right now.
Paige Desorbo
I manifested it accidentally, but not to do, like, a Jordan quote, but, like, they say, like, of all the shy.
Amy Poehler
Timmy does a Jordan. Timmy wants to be like, Jordan. Timmy Chalamet. And you're like, Jordan, yeah, Timmy Charlamagne.
Paige Desorbo
Okay, so he need to stop. So I have adhd. So he. He missed, like, a ton of the, like, shots to win the game. But people remember those.
Hannah Berner
They remember.
Amy Poehler
Well, you know what?
Paige Desorbo
You can't.
Amy Poehler
I was gonna say, don't worry about doing a Jordan quote. That was Jordan quote. It was Wayne Grinsky.
Paige Desorbo
As I was saying, he looked me in the eye and went, you miss.
Amy Poehler
100% of the shots you don't take. Was Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. And not Jordan. But I bet Jordan did say something.
Hannah Berner
But I'm sure they're friends and they like each other, so it's all fine.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Paige Desorbo
I'm never gonna say a quote again with.
Hannah Berner
And Obama actually said, grab your hockey sticks, kids.
Paige Desorbo
Carolyn Monroe, you miss 100 shots. Marilyn Monroe used to say, Audrey Hepburn.
Amy Poehler
Audrey Hepburn said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Paige Desorbo
Wait, can we also tell them we misquoted Amy Poehler in our book? We also didn't ask permission. Did a full quote with Amy Poehler, said it wrong. And then.
Hannah Berner
That's actually so funny because my brother literally saw the back and was like, you didn't ask my permission? And I was like, what, are you gonna sue me?
Amy Poehler
Oh, because your brother has a quote.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, but I, like, wrote it, like, for him.
Paige Desorbo
We got some fun quotes in the.
Hannah Berner
Back of our book.
Amy Poehler
My sister isn't that funny. That's his quote.
Paige Desorbo
I wrote that. Did you not think it? Did you not think it?
Amy Poehler
Okay. You talk about pop culture on your podcast because of that. I want to just throw things out to you. Yeah. Speed round.
Paige Desorbo
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Tell me your thoughts and opinions.
Hannah Berner
Okay.
Amy Poehler
There's no wrong answers.
Hannah Berner
Okay.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Paige Desorbo
Like, the last thing I did, she got that wrong. But hopefully do better this time.
Amy Poehler
Incredible. Okay. Veneers.
Hannah Berner
I don't think they ever look good.
Amy Poehler
Never.
Hannah Berner
I think maybe there's, like, two people in Hollywood where I'm like, wait, they have really good veneers, but, like, a normal person who can't afford it.
Amy Poehler
Do you?
Hannah Berner
Oh, they look great. You wouldn't know, but because you obviously have access to a great doctor, the normies out here shouldn't get that. Too big.
Amy Poehler
Too white.
Paige Desorbo
Too big. Did you get them?
Amy Poehler
Well, I guess they're considered veneers. I had a chipped tooth.
Hannah Berner
Okay.
Amy Poehler
And when I went.
Paige Desorbo
That's the story you're going with. She goes, I was in a boar fight.
Amy Poehler
I broke my nose in a car accident, and I have a science. Yeah, that's not. I had a chipped tooth when I got on snl. And I thought, no big deal. Whatever. Like a snake.
Hannah Berner
That's hilarious. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, exactly. Like, who cares? And then I saw myself on camera, and I gasped. I was like, oh, no. Like, I look. And so I got my teeth fixed. I got veneers when I was on snl.
Hannah Berner
You would never know.
Amy Poehler
Just two But I. But I have.
Paige Desorbo
If you didn't get into Hollywood, do you think you would have gotten veneers?
Amy Poehler
Wow. That's a good question. Maybe not. I don't think so. I think, like, you know where I came from in Massachusetts, and, like, I don't know if I think I would just. Wouldn't mind my chip. But seeing yourself on camera is a different.
Hannah Berner
You know how, like, people hate hearing their own voice? Like, even in a voicemail, I'm like, imagine watching yourself on tv. You're like, that's what I present to the world.
Amy Poehler
It's like.
Hannah Berner
It's crazy. It's a real mind.
Amy Poehler
Okay, so you got to be careful with Vinny. Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
I get nervous when people shave it down and they have little, like, nubs. Yeah, that makes me nervous.
Amy Poehler
I think that that doesn't happen as much anymore. I think they've really taken it back. They don't go, we don't know the science.
Paige Desorbo
We don't know anything about veneers. But we have.
Hannah Berner
We like talking about it, but we hate them.
Amy Poehler
And I also have to say, both of you, if I may, you both have great teeth.
Hannah Berner
Either you're gonna say you both need them.
Paige Desorbo
I have a doctor.
Amy Poehler
Dr. Keane, Beverly Hills. You both have great teeth. So talking about veneers was. Great teeth isn't really fair.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah, true.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Because some of us don't have great teeth. Gel nails.
Paige Desorbo
Yes.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Paige Desorbo
Yes.
Amy Poehler
You love them.
Hannah Berner
We love them.
Amy Poehler
Taking off of them.
Paige Desorbo
That's the thing. You just let them grow.
Hannah Berner
I was just gonna say we never take them off.
Paige Desorbo
We never take it off.
Amy Poehler
We just rego. Okay, okay, okay. How do you feel about running?
Hannah Berner
From what?
Paige Desorbo
What problems are you running from? Yeah, from who are you running from? What? We can do Pilates. That's a workout. Laying down with BDSM equipment.
Hannah Berner
Actually, I'm gonna.
Paige Desorbo
We're not. The only time I run is to get away from a man.
Amy Poehler
Okay. How do you feel about people who love dogs?
Paige Desorbo
Okay. You did that. You did. No, that was on purpose. You did on purpose.
Amy Poehler
No. Why do I know?
Paige Desorbo
Because we're cat people, and people are. It's very controversial.
Amy Poehler
Oh, okay.
Hannah Berner
Right?
Huge cat.
Paige Desorbo
People who love dogs. I love dogs.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
I foster senior pets all the time. Get that on clip that.
Amy Poehler
People who.
Paige Desorbo
People love dogs. I love people who say they hate cats.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
I don't. Like.
Amy Poehler
That's not nice.
Hannah Berner
They've never had a cat.
Paige Desorbo
It's always the dog people. They're like, I love dogs. But then Scruffy scratched me when I was four. I hate cats. I hate cats. And it's like, cats just want your consent.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, you're right. People think it's okay to say they hate cats. That's not.
Hannah Berner
That's horrible. I love cats. PR though. Like, I love that they're hated publicly because, like, that's their vibe. Like, they like that if you hate.
Paige Desorbo
Cats, you hate women.
Hannah Berner
And now we've said it.
Paige Desorbo
I wasn't gonna say it. I said it.
Hannah Berner
And now we've gone there on the path.
Paige Desorbo
We went there.
Amy Poehler
When you're talking about traveling, how early do you like to get to the airplane, to the airport for a flight?
Hannah Berner
Okay. That's another reason why I think we're pretty compatible. We have the same flight time. We're very big on boarding time. We like to know the boarding time, and we like to be there an hour before it boards.
Paige Desorbo
I also am very lucky where. Where I live in New York. I'm 20 minutes from LaGuardia.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
So I kind of roll out of bed.
Amy Poehler
That' great.
Hannah Berner
And the world's best airport.
Paige Desorbo
And I'm besties with the clear people. I get high fives from them. They're like, good luck this weekend. And I, I.
Hannah Berner
They're paid to bring you.
Paige Desorbo
You don't think they care? You don't think they care? Those clear people are passionate.
Hannah Berner
They look at my soul, says your name. That's how they know it. They didn't remember it, but they get.
Amy Poehler
Paid for every person that goes through Minneapolis.
Paige Desorbo
Like, you know everything about me.
Hannah Berner
They're like, I'm looking at your flight information, ma'am.
Paige Desorbo
See, we're the same. We keep each other.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
We're a pretty similar traveler.
Amy Poehler
Oh, that's really important.
Hannah Berner
It's really important.
Amy Poehler
That's really important. Okay. What about avocado toast?
Hannah Berner
I think avocado ruins a lot of really good things.
Amy Poehler
Really?
Paige Desorbo
This is Paige's hot take. She's Paige. People are gonna be so mad.
Hannah Berner
I know. I think that. I don't know what year we were like, let's throw avocado on every sandwich. But I wish I paid attention more and stopped it, because I don't need avocado on my turkey sandwich. It was gorgeous years prior. It's been a turkey sandwich forever. I don't need it now to be.
Paige Desorbo
You don't have a mature palate. Just say it.
Amy Poehler
Do you have, like, a baby palate? Like. Like a little kid palate?
Hannah Berner
No. Don't listen to her. I. I eat way. I will try way more. She said it confidently and what do you do? I'll try. I feel like I eat way more things than you like, try way more things.
Paige Desorbo
Not true.
Hannah Berner
You eat Mexican food and that's it.
Paige Desorbo
I do get hyper fixated on a meal, and if I like it, I'll eat it for a couple weeks, couple years, and then I'll change.
Hannah Berner
You've been having cheese? I like avocados for seven years.
Paige Desorbo
Look, I don't recommend it before a show. That's all I'm gonna say.
Amy Poehler
What is your favorite kind of sandwich? If you can have a perfect sandwich.
Paige Desorbo
Bacon, egg, and cheese. I'm so New York on what? Ooh, good question. Anything but, like, everything. Bagel roll. Just bacon, egg, and just bacon. Eat cheese.
Hannah Berner
Perfect sandwich would be like prosciutto, mozzarella cheese, a little olive oil and vinegar on like, a hard, like, good baguette.
Amy Poehler
Spoken like a person has their real teeth.
Hannah Berner
I can bite into it.
Paige Desorbo
Can you not bite your front teeth?
Amy Poehler
Well, you have to be careful.
Paige Desorbo
When you have an ears, you have.
Amy Poehler
To go a little slow, lower, like you don't want to get. You want. You don't want to come up on an apple too fast.
Hannah Berner
Got it. Because they do. They.
Amy Poehler
They can pop.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, they can pop up anywhere.
Amy Poehler
Okay, the last one is women who ask men to marry them.
Paige Desorbo
Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life. I'm not just willy nilly waiting for a guy to spring it on me. I'm sitting down and having a serious discussion. If you want to spend the rest of your life with me.
Amy Poehler
Yes. And the bigger thing of, like, what do we expect? Like, expecting to be chosen and waiting to be chosen rather than choosing. It's complicated.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But also, I do think there's a thing sometimes where, I mean, and you know, straight cis marriage is a whole other conversation. Like, who cares? But boring.
Paige Desorbo
No, it's very boring.
Amy Poehler
It is cheugy.
Paige Desorbo
Getting married is cheugy now.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Are we still saying cheugy? No. That was chuki of me. It's funny to know since we also.
Hannah Berner
Talk on the pod, like, obviously Hannah's married and so, like, we don't like.
Paige Desorbo
To talk about it, though. It's very off brand for our. It's so sexy.
Amy Poehler
Why don't you just expose me, husband?
Hannah Berner
I'm like, what, you have a husband?
Paige Desorbo
We say boyfriend.
Hannah Berner
But, like, we talk about how, like, people expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day. And then, like, you'll never be that skinny or pretty ever again. Like, this is Your one day or, like, it's the best day of your life. And I remember Hannah's wedding. She was like, this is a great day, but, like, I've had better. Like, you know, like, I've had a day. Like, when she filmed her Netflix special, she was like, this is truly the best.
Paige Desorbo
I was high on beta blockers, but it was an amazing day.
Hannah Berner
I think we're in a generation where it is like a. A little. It's shifting a little bit. Where it's like, okay, your wedding day and your marriage isn't the best thing you're ever gonna do your whole life. And that's really put on women. Yes. Where it's like, this is the best you're ever gonna look. This is the best weekend you're ever gonna have. Everyone's here for you. This is the last time that's ever gonna happen. Yes. So, like, the whole proposal thing, and like, a girl doing it to a guy, there's a re. He hasn't said that he likes you, then that's why you're doing it. I feel like.
Amy Poehler
Well, I do feel like what you. What you two speak about a lot, and I feel like is that's what I kind of. What I mean about the freedom that comes from the women that are coming up behind me is that the. The discussion about how gaslit we are all the time? That's it. The discussion in real time about how we get these crazy mixed messages all the time. And it's like, push and pull back and be this way, but. But say what you want, but it's.
Paige Desorbo
Like, I mean, being a female comedian is a fuck you to the system. They don't want you to call people out, say things that are out of line, make people uncomfortable. That's what we do as comics. Make you think, take up space. That's why I love being a female comedian. And, yeah, we get pushback a lot, but that's like, what our choice is. This is the life I want to live. And I also think it's so cool you talk to our mom before because generationally, they only had so many options. I joke that icks are popular now because, like, back then, you barely had a credit card. You couldn't have ick with your husband.
Hannah Berner
You literally couldn't divorce your husband. It was illegal.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah. He starts singing Happy Birthday at a restaurant. You're like, la, la, la, la, la. Nowadays, if a guy gets, like, a little baby spoon like me, do my stand up. A little baby spoon eating. Eating an ice cream, you're like, yeah, divorce. And taking all the money that I made.
Hannah Berner
Yeah. Like, get out of my house.
Amy Poehler
And I'm taking the money that we didn't. That we never share. Okay. Speaking of laugh before you leave. I'm asking people what they're laughing at these days. What do you, like, look at, read, go see. I mean, I know you make each other laugh. Hannah.
Hannah Berner
Hannah's text messages. When Hannah really goes off. Here's the thing.
Amy Poehler
Can you share a text message?
Hannah Berner
This is when I know. No. She's smart. She does voice notes. This is when I thought that was a boomer thing.
Amy Poehler
Voice notes.
Hannah Berner
We love a voice note, but they.
Amy Poehler
Disappear, and then you can never know.
Hannah Berner
We love that.
Paige Desorbo
This is when I go in jail.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
This is when I know Hannah's husband isn't in the city. Hannah's voice noting me like, crazy. She's like, and then I figured this out, and then I saw this, and, oh, my God. I haven't brought this up to you.
Paige Desorbo
So my mom will be like, you've been voice noting Paige for two hours. Pick up the phone.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, but that's invasive.
Amy Poehler
I don't like the phone. I don't like to talk on the phone.
Paige Desorbo
No.
Amy Poehler
And I don't like when people facetime me out of the blue.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, that's aggressive.
Amy Poehler
But I think you guys don't mind it as much.
Paige Desorbo
We don't, but we are respectful of each other.
Hannah Berner
We're respectful, but once if one of us does FaceTime each other out of the blue, it is the first thing we say when we answer the phone. Like, oh, okay.
Paige Desorbo
Okay. What's going on?
Hannah Berner
Yeah, someone must be dead.
Paige Desorbo
That's why there's not more female pilots, because we don't like a dispatcher in our ear.
Amy Poehler
We don't want to hear it.
Paige Desorbo
Text me.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I know where I'm going.
Paige Desorbo
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
I know. Thanks. I know.
Paige Desorbo
We're going Stop mansplaining how to land the plane.
Hannah Berner
We also started doing this thing because, like, we stay in hotels all the time with each other. They're like, anytime one of us has to go to the other one's room, we think of, like, a line we're gonna say when we open the door. Like, we have to have a bit going into it.
Paige Desorbo
Totally. I. Like, I was wearing a tie. I think it was before we met you. And we opened the door, and I was like, I'm selling you insurance. And she was like, I just puked or. So she said something.
Hannah Berner
No, I was like, I think I'm pregn.
Paige Desorbo
This is the Thing. Life is sad. So if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are you here for?
Amy Poehler
100%. And what. So what do you. Okay, so Paige gets Hannah's text to make her laugh. What do you. What makes you laugh?
Paige Desorbo
Paige doesn't really make me laugh that much. But imagine this is where she finds out. I actually don't really enjoy the pod with her. No, Paige 100% makes me laugh.
Amy Poehler
Okay, you guys make each other laugh. But what else?
Hannah Berner
Okay, like, what TV are we watching? And like, yeah, it's like, what do.
Amy Poehler
You do at night? Like a.
Paige Desorbo
Like, I just watched Detroiters. I thought it was the funniest thing ever.
Amy Poehler
So funny. Sam Richardson.
Paige Desorbo
I love comics who are really different from me. It's more. I get more, like, it's more admirable because I'm like, I could never do that. So then I think it's really funny.
Hannah Berner
I love watching standups. Who did I. I just watched two standups this week. I watched Chelsea Handlers. I watched Bert Kreisners. Honestly, anything on TikTok, like, tick tock is funny.
Paige Desorbo
Really?
Hannah Berner
Like, Tick Tock is the only social media app where when I log on to it, I never click my own profile and I never click my notifications.
Paige Desorbo
You're not re watching your videos to be like, was that funny?
Hannah Berner
No, I'm never re watching where I'm Instagram either. I'm obsessed with myself.
Paige Desorbo
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
I'm like, my story is so aesthetic today. My grid has never looked better. I'm commenting at everyone where TikTok. I really go to it to just laugh.
Amy Poehler
Same. I said this many times, but especially in the pandemic. Wrapping back around in the pandemic, like, that really saved me because it was lots of good comedy on TikTok.
Paige Desorbo
You've been on TikTok?
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah. You've been on TikTok.
Hannah Berner
I see you commenting, gassing up the girls. You're doing great.
Amy Poehler
Also, it was that hilarious moment where it was like everyone was leaving. You know, before we leave, I'm gonna just tell a couple people that I think they're great.
Hannah Berner
But there's so many people. No, there's so many funny people.
Amy Poehler
So many funny people.
Hannah Berner
I also, as the creativity, I'm like, how did you even think of that? That's hilarious.
Paige Desorbo
Women are particularly so funny because I say that for female standups, it's hard to be in the clubs at night. But that TikTok is like a safe open mic.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Paige Desorbo
Where girls can just, like, put them.
Hannah Berner
I think there's more funny women on TikTok than there are men. Because I do feel like women are competitive with each other, but there is a sense of, like, we feel safe with each other. So it's like, I know that my TikTok is majority girls.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Hannah Berner
So, like, when I put something out, I'm like, oh, it's. The girls will think this is funny. So I think that's, like, where guys. I don't know, they don't have that relationship with other guys.
Paige Desorbo
Do you like making tiktoks?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
Hannah Berner
It's fine.
Amy Poehler
I love it. And I feel like I just was on it for so long and really liked it that I. I feel like there's a way. I mean, my biggest fear was to come on as some, like, old lady being like. Like, the thing that drives me nuts are, like, people that are like, I guess I should be doing this. And you're like, beat it. It is actually, like, a culture of people that work really hard. It's a lot of creators, and it's.
Paige Desorbo
It's all just comedy in a different, different form.
Hannah Berner
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Paige Desorbo
And having your stamp of approval legitimizes it.
Amy Poehler
Well, I don't know about that, but I love it. I do love it. And it is, like, it is cheugy and it is cringy, like, if I get it wrong, but whatever, who cares?
Paige Desorbo
Like, Amy, you've never made a mistake in your life. Also, I can't wait to see you and Tina doing some tiktoks on tour, continuing.
Amy Poehler
Well, she doesn't love to do them.
Hannah Berner
Really?
Amy Poehler
No. So I always have to kind of convince her a little bit.
Hannah Berner
I feel like I'm the Tina I was.
Paige Desorbo
I didn't want to ask. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
You think so?
Hannah Berner
I think so. Because there's always a tik tok that Hannah's like, this is going to be so funny. And I'm like, get away from me. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And whoever is the quieter one. Right. Because. Yeah, yeah.
Paige Desorbo
I also just have to say shout out to animals. Animals are the most effortlessly. Like, I'll never be funnier than, like, a baby goat.
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
That's the.
Hannah Berner
I've been trying to tell you that you may look like one, but you're not.
Paige Desorbo
Like, I'm not following a baby goat. I'm not following them. They're effortless. They don't care. They're everything we want to be.
Hannah Berner
When we were on the Vanity Fair red carpet, we were the first to get our picture taken because we were literally there first. And so, like, me and Hannah are standing next to each other, and we just notice all the cameras go immediately off of us.
Paige Desorbo
We were already having imposter Sylvia, and.
Hannah Berner
We'Re like, shoot, someone really famous must have walked in. They literally don't give a shit about us. It was a dog. It was a dog.
Paige Desorbo
It was a dog.
Hannah Berner
I go, I waited my whole life for this moment, and I'm losing to a dog.
Amy Poehler
Was it a famous dog?
Hannah Berner
We don't know.
Amy Poehler
Was it.
Hannah Berner
We stopped asking questions, and then I.
Paige Desorbo
Saw the dog, and I was like, I get it. That's a beautiful dog. It was a lab. Grew up in a nice.
Hannah Berner
We were like, that tail blowout is better than.
Paige Desorbo
I'm like, how did the lab get a Dyson air wrap?
Amy Poehler
And then it stood on the right side, and it looked gorgeous.
Paige Desorbo
It took my job.
Amy Poehler
Thank you guys so much for doing this. This was so, so fun.
Paige Desorbo
Thank you for hanging with us. Amy. We love you.
Amy Poehler
You know, I love, love you back. And I just. I can't wait for all the big things ahead for both of you in all different areas of the business that you work.
Paige Desorbo
And we feel the same about you. It sounds weird, but we feel like. Are you just getting started?
Hannah Berner
Clip that. That would be such a great fake.
Amy Poehler
Title for this podcast. Like, just getting started. Just getting started. Question mark. Amy Poehler. Just getting started.
Hannah Berner
Wait, why is, like, your face has to be like that prison? Just getting started.
Amy Poehler
And then I'm like, at Scales of Justice, and I'm holding, like, like, a baby bottle and, like, in, like, a tiny little gravestone, and I'm like.
Paige Desorbo
I'm just. I'm just. Wait, that's.
Amy Poehler
I'm hooked up to an iv.
Paige Desorbo
One of those sand clogs that just slowly going on. I give time.
Amy Poehler
There's a guy. I'm going like this. I'm like, in a. I'm in a. I'm in a baby doll dress, and I'm going, just getting started. And behind me is the Grim Reaper.
Paige Desorbo
Just waiting for me and Botox getting injected.
Amy Poehler
The Grim Reaper. And I'm wearing pigtails, and I'm in, like, just overalls, and I'm like, just getting started.
Paige Desorbo
Wait, the Grim Reaper is all right.
Amy Poehler
We renamed the podcast.
Paige Desorbo
We have fun here.
Amy Poehler
All right, thank you guys so much. This episode is brought to you by.
Hannah Berner
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Amy Poehler
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Podcast Summary: Good Hang with Amy Poehler – Episode Featuring Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner
Release Date: April 29, 2025
Introduction
In this lively episode of Good Hang with Amy Poehler, Amy welcomes guests Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner, the creative minds behind the popular podcast Giggly Squad. Joining them are their supportive mothers, Lenore and Kimberly, who provide heartfelt insights into their daughters' journeys in entertainment and friendship. The conversation seamlessly weaves through various topics, including stand-up comedy, female friendship, experiences on reality TV, managing anxiety, and the evolution of their podcast.
1. Celebrating Female Friendship
The episode opens with Amy expressing her admiration for Paige and Hannah's genuine friendship, highlighting how their bond is a cornerstone of their success both on social media and reality television.
Kimberly and Lenore share anecdotes about their daughters' inseparable bond, emphasizing the authenticity and support they provide each other.
2. Navigating Reality TV and Public Perception
The conversation delves into Paige and Hannah's experiences on the Bravo reality show Summer House. Lenore and Kimberly discuss the challenges their daughters faced, including stress and the pressure of public scrutiny.
Paige and Hannah reflect on the impact of reality TV on their friendship and professional lives, noting how it necessitated a stronger bond to withstand external pressures.
3. The Birth and Evolution of Giggly Squad
Paige and Hannah recount how Giggly Squad emerged from spontaneous Instagram Live sessions during the COVID-19 pandemic. Their organic growth from casual broadcasts to a structured podcast is discussed, highlighting their commitment to humor and authenticity.
They touch upon the transition from live interactions to podcasting, emphasizing the natural progression of their creative collaboration.
4. Stand-Up Comedy and Overcoming Anxiety
A significant portion of the episode centers around stand-up comedy as a form of expression and coping mechanism. Paige and Hannah share personal strategies for managing performance anxiety, including the use of beta blockers and humor as a therapeutic tool.
Paige DeSorbo [20:21]: "Comedy helped me retrain my brain to be kinder to myself."
Hannah Berner [29:32]: "Taking care of somebody is a great distraction."
They discuss the parallels between their athletic backgrounds and comedic careers, illustrating how discipline and resilience translate across different fields.
5. The Influence of Social Media and Public Feedback
The duo explores the complexities of maintaining their public personas in the age of social media. They discuss the challenges of dealing with negative feedback and the importance of selective interaction with online platforms.
Hannah Berner [35:13]: "Not everyone is going to like you, and that's okay."
Paige DeSorbo [43:16]: "People who love dogs are great, but I love people who say they hate cats."
They emphasize the role of platforms like TikTok in providing a space for female comedians to express themselves freely and connect with like-minded audiences.
6. Personal Growth and Embracing Individuality
The conversation shifts to personal growth, where Paige and Hannah share their journeys toward self-acceptance and embracing their unique comedic styles. They highlight the importance of authenticity in both their personal lives and professional endeavors.
Hannah Berner [24:21]: "If you don't think I'm funny, I hate you."
Paige DeSorbo [25:48]: "I can never do stand-up because... you have to depend on how much you care."
Their experiences underscore the significance of self-love and the courage to pursue one's passions despite societal expectations.
7. Navigating Relationships and Expectations
Towards the end of the episode, the discussion touches on societal expectations surrounding relationships and marriage. Paige and Hannah critique traditional norms, advocating for personal choice and mutual respect in partnerships.
Paige DeSorbo [47:22]: "Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life."
Hannah Berner [48:05]: "People expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day, but that's not realistic."
They challenge the conventional narratives, promoting a more liberated and self-aware approach to relationships.
8. Humor as a Coping Mechanism
The episode wraps up with a lighthearted segment where Amy engages Paige and Hannah in a rapid-fire question round, revealing their playful dynamics and shared sense of humor. They discuss favorite sandwiches, opinions on veneers, and the joys of making each other laugh, reinforcing the essence of their friendship.
Hannah Berner [50:51]: "I love watching stand-ups and anything on TikTok."
Paige DeSorbo [52:33]: "Life is sad. So if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are you here for?"
Conclusion
Amy Poehler concludes the episode by expressing her appreciation for Paige and Hannah's vibrant energy and their contributions to the world of comedy. She encourages listeners to support their endeavors and look forward to their continued success.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Amy Poehler [02:17]: "I think their genuine friendship is really nice to be around. That's why you keep coming back."
Hannah Berner [29:32]: "Taking care of somebody is a great distraction."
Paige DeSorbo [20:21]: "Comedy helped me retrain my brain to be kinder to myself."
Hannah Berner [35:13]: "Not everyone is going to like you, and that's okay."
Paige DeSorbo [47:22]: "Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life."
Conclusion
This episode of Good Hang with Amy Poehler offers an insightful and entertaining exploration of friendship, resilience, and the therapeutic power of humor. Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner's candid discussions provide listeners with relatable experiences and valuable perspectives on navigating the complexities of public life and personal growth.