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Renee Rapp
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Services and the Ad Council. Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Good Hang Boy. We have a superstar, a pop star, an incredibly talented, wonderful woman named Renee Rapp joining us today. We're so excited to have Renee here. We are gonna talk about so many things. We're gonna talk about falling in love. We're gonna talk about standing up to bullies. We're gonna listen to her new music, which is incredible. Her record, bite Me, is coming out at the end of the summer. And her new single, leave Me Alone is out now. It's so good. And we're gonna talk about what it means to make music during these times. It's fun and funny and I can't wait for you to listen. And we start these podcasts the same way all the time. We try to get our guests, friends or fans or people who wanna give me a question to ask our guest on the line. And today we have Cara Delevingne. Beautiful actress, model, director, gal, about town, a total delight. And Cara is joining us from Paris, and she's going to tell me what to ask Renee. Hi, Cara. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is almost here, and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese. A cabana that's a no. A banana that's a yes. A day of sunshine no. A box of fine wines. Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. I'm very excited to use Uber Eats this summer. I'm going to order grapes, and then I'm going to put them in the freezer, and then I'm going to have frozen grapes, and I'm going to feel very classy and very refreshed. Get almost. Almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region app for details.
Cara Delevingne
Hello, Cara.
Renee Rapp
Hi, Hi.
Amy Poehler
How are you? It's nice to meet you.
Renee Rapp
Have we never met?
Amy Poehler
I mean, I feel like perhaps I've walked past you at an event, and.
Cara Delevingne
I've never stopped you and hugged you.
Amy Poehler
Not yet. But now. But now.
Cara Delevingne
Like, I feel like I just. I adore you, and I'm such a huge fan, and I feel like I know you so well because I think Parks and Rec probably saved my life during COVID So, like, I feel like I know you. So if I'd seen you, I would have run up to you and probably kissed your feet if I'm going to be real with you.
Amy Poehler
I just.
Cara Delevingne
I just got back from work. I'm just getting into my hotel room, and then I will sit down.
Amy Poehler
Of course. Take your time. We have people doing these zooms from restaurant bathrooms, from set, from cars, so.
Cara Delevingne
Oh, perfect. I'm talking to Amy Poehler. I'm on her podcast. My girlfriend's a big fan. She's freaked out. She doesn't understand. I would turn the camera up, but she's naked.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. That's how I imagine your life. That's how exactly how I imagine your life.
Cara Delevingne
We love the podcast. Yes, I know.
Renee Rapp
I just.
Cara Delevingne
We do good hang. We are good hang. We're the best hang.
Amy Poehler
Okay, so we're talking to the great Renee Rapp today. Who exactly? Just my favorite. Your favorite. And I know my favorite. Can you tell me how you guys met?
Cara Delevingne
I literally don't even think we've known each other that long, but through. My old manager was like, you know, I always want to be behind the camera in as many ways possible, and I think music videos is a great way of doing that. And he was like, would you be interested in directing a video for Renee Rapp? And I was like, yeah, obviously. Let me. Let's talk, though. Let's get on the phone. And what I realized about Renee, again, for someone who is nearly 10 years younger than me, she is, I mean, a consummate professional. Her voice can just, like, break me to the floor while also, like, lift my spirits. But also, when you work with someone who's a musician, who's also an actor and who's so brilliant and just can, like, take direction, take notes, be spontaneous. Yeah, she's so good at that.
Amy Poehler
Okay, and then my question to you is, what do you think I should ask Renee today? There's a lot I know about her, but I want to hear what you think.
Cara Delevingne
I had so many questions that I wanted to ask, and then I realized a lot of people won't understand the question. So for everyone, the questions that I wanted to ask her, number one, was if she was a drag king. So not a drag queen. For the people that don't know, that drag king dresses in drag. As a man, what would her drag name be?
Amy Poehler
Great.
Cara Delevingne
Very important. What would yours be?
Amy Poehler
Okay, let me think about this. Well, I'm gonna think about the old trick where you sometimes take the street you grew up on and your first pet name. So mine would be Bradley Algonquin.
Cara Delevingne
Hot. I can imagine the dance you're doing, too. Like.
Amy Poehler
So my guy, I think, would probably be a professor. Like some kind of professor hot. With a mustache, with braces, a bow tie. Yeah. And just. And he's just like. He's just kind of, like, sternly telling you to get your work done. Obsessed disciplinarian Professor Algonquin.
Cara Delevingne
I can't claim this one, but someone a drag king is called Clit Eastwood, which I just.
Amy Poehler
Come on, Reddible.
Cara Delevingne
I wish I'd made that up. It's not mine. I don't know what might be, but I'm not the one being asked questions. And the other question would be. Oh, oh. If Renee had to be in a girl band like the Spice Girl, it doesn't matter how many people have female singers, rappers, whoever, dead or alive, who would it be? Honestly? That's the hardest question, I think.
Amy Poehler
Oh, that's such a good question. Renee is going to be so happy that we talk today, I think, because, you know, these are always surprises. So. Fuck Renee.
Cara Delevingne
Any excuse to talk to you, Emmy, go down anytime.
Renee Rapp
Thank you.
Cara Delevingne
You're the best at anyone.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my gosh.
Cara Delevingne
I know. I love Renee. I'm so glad it was.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Well, just come back next week and we'll just talk about whoever that is.
Cara Delevingne
I. I'm going to find a job to do, so I can just come and talk about it.
Amy Poehler
Yes, please. I would love that.
Cara Delevingne
That's how it works.
Amy Poehler
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Renee Rapp
I'm so excited.
Amy Poehler
I've been listening to your. I've been lucky enough to listen to your. Can we listen to your song right now, please?
Renee Rapp
Okay. Of course.
Amy Poehler
I love this song.
Renee Rapp
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
Is it weird to listen to your music?
Renee Rapp
I mean, I'm forced to listen to it a lot, so, no, it's not weird.
Amy Poehler
Is this your first single?
Renee Rapp
It's fun.
Amy Poehler
It's so good. It's got, like a Runaways, Joan jet. Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Oh, 100. 100. I know. I like it.
Amy Poehler
And it's very crunchy.
Renee Rapp
Thanks, dude. Thanks. I'm partial.
Amy Poehler
It's so good to like music.
Renee Rapp
A hundred percent.
Amy Poehler
I really like.
Renee Rapp
Of course. Thank you. It's very sweet.
Amy Poehler
I really like your music.
Renee Rapp
I'm glad that you like it. It would be shit if you hated it.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. I wouldn't tell you.
Renee Rapp
You know what I mean?
Amy Poehler
But this record is so good. Congratulations. We're gonna talk all about it.
Renee Rapp
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
How are you today? How are you feeling today?
Renee Rapp
Good.
Amy Poehler
Renee Rapp.
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I first met you without you meeting me. So I guess I should say I first saw you on Tina Fey's Phone Love.
Renee Rapp
I mean, that's kind of like a sick thing for me to know that that's where you first seen me. And like, oh, my God, that's so cute.
Amy Poehler
I saw Tina said, listen to this woman sing, basically, and played a video of you singing. And we both kind of watched it together in awe, as I imagine a lot of people do when they first hear you sing.
Renee Rapp
Thanks.
Amy Poehler
And you were, you know, I think you were already hired maybe at that point to do Mean Girls, which was give us a sense of what time that was. What year was that?
Renee Rapp
Probably. Probably 20. 19.
Amy Poehler
Right. And you were how old?
Renee Rapp
19.
Amy Poehler
Dang. And what do you remember around that time about getting that part?
Renee Rapp
I was just, like, so entitled. I was just so entitled. I was just like, yeah, okay, sure thing.
Amy Poehler
You were like, I got it. Nailed it. Do you remember the audition?
Renee Rapp
Yeah, totally.
Amy Poehler
What was it like?
Renee Rapp
I auditioned a bunch of times. And when I first auditioned, I remember I was like, I need to dress really girly. And at that time in my life, I was like. I mean, I was dressing horrifically. First of all. What do you mean? Like an infinity scarf? A legging. Like, I was. I was like, my like.
Amy Poehler
And you're telling me those are not cool.
Renee Rapp
No, no, no. Like, I love a little, like, small infinity scarf, you know, like, tiny knit. Yeah, but that was just like. I don' I was just dressing crazy. I was dressing crazy. I also just started making money, so I discovered Athleisure. And I was like, a musical theater person who was moving to New York. And I was like, fuck. You guys all wear these little fucking Lululemon skirts.
Amy Poehler
Right, Right, right.
Renee Rapp
Assholes. I gotta get one. So I was dressing crazy. So I was like, all right, I gotta dress the part. And I looked fucking insane. I just looked so terrible. And I remember being like, I can't walk in these heels, and this skirt is, like, making my ass sweat so crazy. I have to go home. And I did a terrible, terrible first audition.
Amy Poehler
It's true. The wrong clothes can really fuck you up. Yeah, big time.
Renee Rapp
Fuck you up. I. I hated it. Hated it, hate it. So then the next audition, I went back, changed clothes, wore some pants, skinny jeans, a. That was nice. And I looked less bad. Did better.
Amy Poehler
What did you sing for your audition? Do you remember?
Renee Rapp
No, but I remember that an ex boyfriend picked it out for me. Yeah. Because I was like, he was a musical theater major in college and just smarter than I was. And he was like, oh, I think I said something. I was like, I'm gonna sing like, a Beyonce song. And he was like, like, what the fuck for? He's like, cool. But at that time, it wasn't like, you know, the girls weren't doing pop like I think they are now.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
And he gave me something. Fuck, I don't remember.
Amy Poehler
He was like, sing something from HMS Pinafore.
Renee Rapp
Literally. He was like, Pirates of Pensacola.
Amy Poehler
Dreamcoat.
Renee Rapp
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So I remember I did that. And then after that, the auditions, I went back. I just had to sing songs from the show. Now it's way fucking easier. Cause I hate having to make decisions.
Amy Poehler
Written by the great Jeff Richmond. Let's give it up for Jeff Richmond, who's an incredible musician and Tina's husband and my friend for many years. He's so talented.
Renee Rapp
There are no two people cuter. It's kind of outrageous.
Amy Poehler
They are a power couple.
Renee Rapp
It is kind of outrageous.
Amy Poehler
And I am not the biggest fan of musicals. Sorry. I like them. I don't love them.
Renee Rapp
That's okay. I'm not either.
Amy Poehler
I love the mean girls music. I love the music.
Renee Rapp
It's really fun. Yeah, it's really, really fun.
Amy Poehler
And when you like doing a Broadway show. And how many shows did you end up doing before COVID hit?
Renee Rapp
I mean, it was super fucking hard. I don't know. I did, like, six and a half months, so I did, like, half of what would have been my contract. Just did a ton of fucking shows. You just do literally so many. Holy shit.
Amy Poehler
And the hardest part of your day is at the end of your day?
Renee Rapp
Absolutely. Actually, do you know what? No. The hardest part of my day was the mental game of waking up and waiting the entire day and planning your entire life around doing a show at night.
Amy Poehler
And I want to. I know you identify primary. You know, like gay. You identify gay. Yes. We're gonna talk about that.
Renee Rapp
No, no, go ahead. Rude. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But you identify as a musician and singer in many ways more than an actor. Right. Is that true?
Renee Rapp
I think so.
Amy Poehler
Okay. But I do want to just talk about the Jimmy Awards, please. Because.
Renee Rapp
Please.
Amy Poehler
For people who don't know what the Jimmy Awards are, what are they for people who've never seen them?
Renee Rapp
The most intense. Hormonal? Scary.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, scary.
Renee Rapp
Really intense. And I don't say that about other people. I mean that more about, like, myself. Like, I was a fucking terror. I didn't make a friend the entire week.
Amy Poehler
So they're a high school competition.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. Okay. So. Yes, actually. So what it is, is a high school theater. I'm, like, scary.
Amy Poehler
You went way in.
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
No.
Renee Rapp
It's a high school theater competition.
Amy Poehler
All across the country.
Renee Rapp
Yes, correct.
Amy Poehler
And everyone kind of competes. And a lot of, like, very famous people have been discovered through the Jimmy Awards. You being one of them. Do you feel like you were discovered because you did the Jimmy Awards? Like, in many ways, were you.
Renee Rapp
I feel like. I mean, it definitely, like, it definitely gave me, like, leverage because I was like, just. Just kind of an asshole. And I was like, you guys are gonna pay attention to me whether you like it or not.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. You were really feeling like. That's the. When I watch your performance is definitely what I feel is this vibe of I'm. I've arrived and I'm ready. You felt that then.
Renee Rapp
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Amy Poehler
Have you always been this kind of person, Renee? Like, have you had some kind of inner compass that, like, tells you you have?
Renee Rapp
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Where do you think that comes from?
Renee Rapp
I literally have no idea. Like, from inception to now, Same way. Same way, like always. And don't get me wrong, like, I think my parents have those qualities. Absolutely. But, like, even before, you know, when you're, like, a little tiny thing and you Start to sort of like take on parts of your own personality. And as those become, you know what they are. I was always like, just like super driven, crazy, like little bit angry and like, ready to go.
Amy Poehler
That's. And do you think you, like.
Renee Rapp
This.
Amy Poehler
Is a little woo woo. But do you think you've lived before? Do you think you've been here before? Because that's a very. You know, it's like, did you think you arrived with some, like, are you a reincarnated.
Renee Rapp
No, there's no way. Because I wouldn't have come back. I'd be like, I'm not doing this shit again. I'm like, I'm not doing that shit again.
Amy Poehler
No, this is your first time.
Renee Rapp
Gotta be.
Amy Poehler
You're so centered.
Renee Rapp
Gotta be from a little.
Amy Poehler
From a young age, you know who you are.
Renee Rapp
Definitely. I think I'm just very, like, I just always been very feisty.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
But also when. When I was like being born, I guess when I was being born and.
Amy Poehler
Like, when I was there being born.
Renee Rapp
When I was like, shooting out.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
My mom, like, chose my first and last name to be. Okay. Arguably chose my first and last name to both have, like, Rs. So she was like, alliteration. Just in case she wants to be a pop star. Like before I was born, which is so fucking headass and is so conceited. And I'm obsessed with the way she did it. I'm like, thank you, God.
Amy Poehler
She gave you a pop star name just in case. Because Renee Rapp is a huge pop star name.
Renee Rapp
It's a really good one.
Amy Poehler
And Renee Rapp is a huge pop star. Do you remember the moment when you sang or when you watched people realize that you had an exceptional voice? You have an exceptional voice, beautiful voice that can do so many things. And everybody says, like, oh, my kid's a good singer, you know, my daughter loves to sing, whatever. But there is always a moment where somebody sings and everyone looks at each other and says, like, holy shit, she's really good. Do you remember a moment where you or someone locked in and knew, you know, your ambition and talent were matching?
Renee Rapp
It didn't match for a very long time.
Amy Poehler
Really?
Renee Rapp
No, I don't think.
Amy Poehler
Well, are you hard on yourself?
Renee Rapp
100%. But also, my parents were never like, my kid's a fucking star.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
They were like, like, I would like, come off of like a stage or even, like, I played a lot of sports growing up, come off the field, like, court, whatever. And they'd be like, you know, where you messed up and I'd be like, I'm five. This is crazy. This is crazy. But also, my dad has relative pitch, so he's very musically incline.
Amy Poehler
What does that mean, relative pitch?
Renee Rapp
So basically, like, if I was flat, he'd know, like, he has a really good ear. Really, really good ear. So he was always like, you know, where you were flat. Right. So I was like, fuck.
Amy Poehler
So they were really getting you trained. Like, you're. You're. You're. Are you trained or did you ever do any musical training? Like, any.
Renee Rapp
Like. I was in choir. Yeah, I was in choir. I took piano lessons when I was a kid, but they give me panic attacks. I got very stressed and I would start crying, so I stopped.
Amy Poehler
Good.
Renee Rapp
Got rid of that. But I did. I feel like choir was, like, how. I learned kind of how to, like, blend. So I don't want to say, like, no, I have no training.
Amy Poehler
What were you. Were you alto? What were you in your. I was an alto in choir.
Renee Rapp
You have the hardest lines. Thank you so much. You have the hardest lines. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Because altos sing like they're far away from the choir and singing a different song.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. Oh, 100%.
Amy Poehler
They're just like. And I will.
Renee Rapp
Absolutely.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And the sopranos are. What were you. Were you sopranos?
Renee Rapp
I was a soprano.
Amy Poehler
Congrats.
Renee Rapp
As a soprano. Thank you. But also, sopranos are bitches. Like, yeah, they're.
Amy Poehler
If you're a soprano, everybody's like, oh, congratulations. You get to sing the song.
Renee Rapp
Right. Exactly.
Amy Poehler
The altos have to sing some weird dirge that is not even.
Renee Rapp
Of course. It's like, you know, the. All I Want for Christmas is what? The.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Renee Rapp
Outdoor line.
Amy Poehler
Okay. What is it? It's just like, okay, you sing the.
Renee Rapp
I Don't wanna Love for Christmas. There is one thing I need and I like. It's the same shit. The whole song. And that's exactly what being an alto in a choir is. And then occasionally having to memorize the most difficult line of music. It is.
Amy Poehler
That has nothing to do with what the song is.
Renee Rapp
Couldn't be less. It is so confusing.
Amy Poehler
And you know what happens when those altos go away? The song falls apart.
Renee Rapp
Falls apart. You have, like, a very shrill, pitchy soprano and, like, tenor boys who are, like, not at all developed yet, singing like, shit.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. The altos are the bottom of the pyramid. The altos are, like. When you do the cheerleader Pyram, all those bottom gals decided to just leave.
Renee Rapp
What do you do when the bottoms are gone?
Amy Poehler
We always say that.
Renee Rapp
What are you gonna do when the bottoms are gone? Nothing to top. Nothing.
Amy Poehler
Nothing to top. No one to top. If the altos are removed.
Renee Rapp
Nope. That's why my girlfriend needs me.
Amy Poehler
That's it, Right? She needs me. It's interesting. What I'm realizing is I'm asking you these, like, technical questions, but I'm realizing how you come to singing is very intuitive. It's like what you're feeling in the moment.
Renee Rapp
Totally.
Amy Poehler
So do you do vocal warmups?
Renee Rapp
No. Hate. Can't do it. Don't like them. Mm. Don't like em. Makes me too anxious. Puts me in my head. Anytime I've ever done a warmup before a performance, I have done so. Shit.
Amy Poehler
That is so interesting. I can understand that. Cause it then becomes very important.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. And I'm, like, thinking about it, and I'm thinking about the, like, different technicalities or whatever, my voice. And I don't. That's not how I learned how to sing. So I don't think. Whenever I try and do that, it's kind of like going back on the actual thing that I know how to do.
Amy Poehler
How did you learn how to sing? How would you describe it?
Renee Rapp
Listen to Beyonce. Tried to match it. Like, genuinely, like, I was like, well, this is it.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
So I gotta do that.
Amy Poehler
Yes. You know, you, like, you let music come from all around you, and you, like, you brought music in and you're less concerned about trying to be 100%. Yeah.
Renee Rapp
100%.
Amy Poehler
Have you met and talked to Beyonce?
Renee Rapp
I. I have met. I have met Beyonce.
Amy Poehler
Would you like to tell us. Would you like to tell us how.
Renee Rapp
I was forced.
Amy Poehler
Okay. I was forced management.
Renee Rapp
No, by one of my best friends who is like, just. She will always introduce me to someone.
Cara Delevingne
Always.
Renee Rapp
She's like, you must. And for Beyonce, she was like, this is your, like, hero. Like, this is your everything.
Amy Poehler
Set the scene. Where were you?
Renee Rapp
So we were at a party after. I just told everybody at this Oscars party that Nemo was the best film ever made. And they're like, cool. She's going to work for a long time.
Amy Poehler
And.
Renee Rapp
And we went to an after party, and I was with, like, two or three of my really good friends. And my friend Cara is, like, the best person to have out with you because she is, like, your biggest cheerleader ever.
Amy Poehler
Is that Cara Delevingne?
Renee Rapp
Yes. She, like, she will take. She just, like, will literally, she'll be like, renee, I gotta, like, hold you for a sec. Like, she's like, one of the greatest friends on planet Earth, but knows how much I love Beyonce. And is really fearless about it. And I was like, oh, my fucking God. I was like, Beyonce's literally standing here. That's so crazy. And the whole day, she had been saying. She was like, we're just gonna introduce you to her. Like. Like, they invited you. Like, it's okay. Like, she. Like, you guys. Like, I'm sure that she loves you. I was like, no, no, no. Like, we really should, like, tone it down. And I was.
Amy Poehler
Did you see her in the room?
Renee Rapp
Yeah. No. Definitely.
Amy Poehler
Okay. You had some liquid courage. She was in the room.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, she was in the room. And very blonde, and I think, like, probably the most beautiful person I've ever seen in real life ever. And I love my girlfriend, but, like, she knows you don't compete where you can't compare. And I. I like that saying. Can't. Like, can't. Like, what are you gonna do? You put anyone in a category with Beyonce, it's going down. So sure. Cara was like, you must say hi to her. I'm, like, getting so anxious talking about it. It makes me. I'm like. I could vomit. She was like, you have to. And I was like, you walk me up there, bitch, and I will kill you. I'll kill you in front of everybody here.
Amy Poehler
But it sounds like you meant the opposite.
Renee Rapp
The truth is, I didn't.
Amy Poehler
You didn't?
Renee Rapp
Oh, she dragged me. And I was, like, having such a. Like, a visceral. I was like, this is my hero. I can't do this. I would never even, like, want to bother her.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Or anything. And I just. And she was like, oh, my God. Hi. I was like, you don't have to do that. It's okay. Love you. Lovely to meet you.
Amy Poehler
You got really sleepy.
Renee Rapp
And I just was like. I couldn't look at her at. I also was super. I love to have a good time. And I was gone. So I was like, hey, so nice to meet you. Thanks for having us.
Amy Poehler
Like, you know, like, basically, you hurried her along.
Renee Rapp
Oh. She didn't get a word in edgewise. I was like, I gotta go. And she was like, oh, that's so lovely. I said, no, no, no. Don't even worry about that. You just have a good night, ma' am. I'm gonna head on out.
Amy Poehler
We're gonna get you in the car now, and you're gonna. We're gonna get you home.
Renee Rapp
Because I literally. I turned around maybe 3ft, middle of a party, middle of a party, screamed, top of my lungs, turned around at Cara, and I was, like, screaming, and.
Amy Poehler
She was still Very close.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, she was super close. I could have walked a bit further, but I was so. I was like, I can't do this. It was the greatest night of my life.
Amy Poehler
Do you want to meet her again? And do you think you'll be cooler when you. No, that's it.
Renee Rapp
We can't talk.
Amy Poehler
We can't talk.
Renee Rapp
We can't talk. What do you mean?
Amy Poehler
Like, sometimes you just don't want to meet.
Renee Rapp
I can't.
Amy Poehler
It's too much.
Renee Rapp
Also, she'll be like, this woman just screamed, like, two feet away from me. And I'll be like, I totally did. I'm so sorry. Like, how could I ever do that around your. Your ears?
Amy Poehler
She probably is used to people, like, hearing people.
Renee Rapp
Totally.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Tweak, tweak. After they meet her. For sure. I once met Prince at snl. He came off stage after doing a sound check and walked past me and I said, how was your summer? That was what I said to him.
Renee Rapp
What did he say?
Amy Poehler
He was like. He just went like, hey. Like, can you imagine that being the question you asked Prince?
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Terrible.
Renee Rapp
No, it's good.
Amy Poehler
Okay, let me talk about your album, okay? Because this music, your record. What's the name of your record?
Renee Rapp
Bite Me.
Amy Poehler
Amazing.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. I kind of forgot where I was, like. I was like. Yep, got it.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Bite Me. So incredible. And it is very. I was talking to you when we were. Hold on, I gotta play the song.
Renee Rapp
Go.
Amy Poehler
Because Stream.
Renee Rapp
Stream my shit.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Okay. So that's what music is, is you stream it now?
Renee Rapp
I guess.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. You just stream it now. It's funny that you say Cannonball. Sorry.
Renee Rapp
You're so cute. No, please don't.
Amy Poehler
Come on. Nana needs to listen to it again.
Renee Rapp
No, girl. Come on, Nan.
Amy Poehler
It's funny. Come on, Nana, let's go. Nana's. Get on up. No, but you know what's funny? That you say Cannonball in it, because it did have a Breeders vibe. Like, there's a heavy, like, PJ Harvey vibe.
Renee Rapp
Like.
Amy Poehler
And what. And what I like about your music is I feel like I'm in conversation with you. You're in conversation with us.
Renee Rapp
Totally. I mean, hopefully. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And there's not to get too, you know, like. But I did. You know, I don't always do research on the guests because, like, I understand. Because I'm like, it's okay, of course. But I did listen to all of your songs many, many times.
Renee Rapp
Oh, my God. Thank you.
Amy Poehler
And so I just want to. I want everyone to know that. But. No, but the two songs that the One, why is she still here? And I can't be. Is it I can't be around you anymore?
Renee Rapp
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Those two songs, everyone listen to those two. They feel like they're from the perspective of two women in the same. Like, it's very cool coupling those two songs. They're great songs.
Renee Rapp
Thank you. Thank you. They're like some of my favorites. That is true. They're kind of A and B to each other. Right.
Amy Poehler
One is like, why is she still here? What's going on? And the. There's something going on we can't really handle. And I can't be around you anymore is. That's a killer song.
Renee Rapp
Thank you. I'm obsessed with that song. I love that song.
Amy Poehler
And that's a good example, I feel like, of where you're able to show restraint because you have to kind of sing it. You're singing it in a way that really makes us feel some, like, really feel it deeply. It's so good.
Renee Rapp
Thanks. It's really.
Amy Poehler
That's gonna be a late night driving song for a lot of people.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, it is for me.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
100.
Amy Poehler
And it's going to be the kind of song that people send to each other. Like, hey. And they're just going to send it and be like, I can't see you anymore because we're. We have too much chemistry.
Renee Rapp
They're like, we're actually.
Amy Poehler
I mean, is there anything hotter than being like, we can't see each other so hot. It's like, we literally can't. We have. You have to leave me alone.
Renee Rapp
Of course. So then you do. You have to see that person again.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Must. All the time.
Amy Poehler
You can't. You. You have to. But you can't. It's too dangerous.
Renee Rapp
It's forbidden. Y. Forbidden.
Amy Poehler
Romeo and Juliet, Damsel. Balcony.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Speaking of balcony suicide.
Renee Rapp
Balcony suicide.
Amy Poehler
Speaking of love suicide. Speaking of love, how did you meet your girlfriend?
Renee Rapp
Similarly locked her in my house. Kind of same thing to Beyonce.
Amy Poehler
Toa Bird. For people who don't know, an incredible musician opened for you and was kind of discovered, like, online, right? Like performing and doing videos, like, during the pandemic. Online.
Renee Rapp
Yes. Yeah. We always joke around that we're like the two TikTok signings at our label. I had known of her for, like the longest time. Cause she's super talented and is really sexy. And so obviously I knew of her and.
Amy Poehler
Cause all the sexy. You clock all the sexy people.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, Yeah. I have like a Rolodex. I got a list. And like, who's Hot. Got it. But yeah, she. I was. I just always, like, thought she was just so fucking cool. And I had asked one of my best friends to introduce me to her. And. Yeah, I was like, you have to introduce me to her. He was like, I don't know if she's, like, in a place in her life where she's like, wanting to, like, meet anyone. I was like, I really couldn't give a fuck less. I'm not either, but I'm gonna meet her.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
We need to be at least be friends.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. You were like, there's something her that feels.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, I was like, I need, like, I. I need to know her, like, super bad. And so then he introduced me to her and she was so fucking mean to me. And I was like, wait.
Amy Poehler
And that.
Renee Rapp
Loved it. But she's scary. She's. Yeah, well, she's like, from the uk, so, like, her humor is also super different, but she's also just such a bitch.
Amy Poehler
Like, what did she say?
Renee Rapp
Well, I was like, I've heard so much about you. And she was like, why are you talking so much about me then?
Amy Poehler
And I was like, she's really nagging you.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, I was like, oh, my God. And then speaking of negging, the next time we talked, I was. We were talking about cars. Cause I love cars. And also the movie, good animated film. Holy shit.
Amy Poehler
I always say, Larry, holy shit. I always say that Larry the cable guy should have been nominated for an Oscar.
Renee Rapp
I mean, it's brutal.
Amy Poehler
His performance as tow mater is unfucking real. Incredible.
Renee Rapp
It is unfucking real.
Amy Poehler
I hear laughter. And that's rude because it's true. It is true. His performance is incredible in cost.
Renee Rapp
It's stunning.
Amy Poehler
Agree.
Renee Rapp
It's stunning. I just rewatched cars too recently. Cried in bed obsessed with it. But anyway, how the fuck. Oh, okay. So we were talking about cars and she was telling you what kind of car she drove at the time. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. I wouldn't, like, peg you for someone who would drive a car. And she looked at me or who would drive a car? Who would drive that kind of car. And she was like, oh, you don't want to peg me. And I was like. I was like. As a freak. I was like. I was like, I am so confident and so, like.
Amy Poehler
She went over the top. She topped a top.
Renee Rapp
She literally topped a top. She flirty.
Amy Poehler
She tip topped. She tip topped a top.
Renee Rapp
She tiptoed on my top.
Amy Poehler
You like confidence? Love. Okay. Love. And what would be okay, so she's super confident. And then you're like, okay, now she's a challenge.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, of course. I was like, now I'm like, you want me so bad. Just say it. You want me.
Amy Poehler
That is true.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, it was awesome.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And so then you started dating.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, then we started dating.
Amy Poehler
And then who said I love you first?
Renee Rapp
She. She told me. I'm so sorry, babe, but she told me we were sat on the beach and high out of our minds. Okay, sorry. And I was so beyond in love with her. Like, I've never been so scared to, like, fall in love with somebody in my life. I was like, oh, Jesus. I was like, we're either gonna get Marri. I can never speak to her again. Like, it's like that kind of. Like, I just am. So. I, like, worship her. I think she's perfect.
Amy Poehler
And yeah.
Renee Rapp
She was like, I think I'm falling in love with you. And I literally didn't answer, didn't say a word. I'm on shrooms. The sun is setting. I'm like, sure. It's a bit cold. There's like, a tiktoker behind us that I'm obsessed with.
Amy Poehler
Who? Which one?
Renee Rapp
Her name is Flossy Baby.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I know. Flossy Baby.
Renee Rapp
She couldn't be more hilarious.
Amy Poehler
She was behind you during it.
Renee Rapp
She's behind us on the beach, but I can't say anything to her. I'm like, floss, she doesn't know me at this point.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, a lot going on.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, we know each other now. Cause I broke everything down to her on Toe's birthday. Cause I invited her. I said, you don't understand what a big part of our lives you are, Flossy Baby. I'm obsessed with her. And so to was telling me this, and I was like. But I was high, distracted by Flossy Baby. So I was like. I was like, there's no way she just said this to me. And what if I'm receiving it wrong because of things that are impairing. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
My thought process and natural plants.
Renee Rapp
So I didn't say anything. And I said, repeat one more time. And she was like, are you fucking kidding me right now? I was like, sorry, sorry, sorry. Let me lock back in. I love you too. Like, I was like, of course. And it was the craziest.
Amy Poehler
I love you too. Of course.
Renee Rapp
Wait. Love you too, babe.
Amy Poehler
I love you too. Of course, honey.
Renee Rapp
You're so cute. And, yeah, I was just like, I'm obsessed with you. And Flossy Baby's here too. It Was awesome. It was awesome. It was so fun. It was so fun. Wow.
Amy Poehler
So it really feels like real, true, beautiful love. I love, love. It's so great. And what is it like working together? You guys have been on, like, do you tour together now still?
Renee Rapp
We. I mean, she'll. We'll, like, we'll go out for shows for.
Amy Poehler
Will she be playing with you for any of these shows that you're gonna do?
Renee Rapp
100%.
Amy Poehler
Wow. What's that? Like, how do you stay in love and work together? It's not always easy.
Renee Rapp
No, I mean, she, like, I think I just respect her so much as a musician that I am kind of always looking to her, like, seeking her approval. Kind of sounds like she's doing something really terrible to me. But, like, I'm like, I'm always. Yeah, like, I want to know. I really respect her opinion. I really respect her opinion, and I think she has amazing taste, and I think that there are so many things in ways that she's so much smarter than me, and I love having that in a partner because I want to learn from her all the time. But there have also been times where we've worked in sessions together, and we're writing for each other's projects, and she's super fun to write with. So easy to collaborate with. And I don't think I'm as much like that for her because we were writing, and God bless her, we. We, like, left. And I was like, you seem. You seem a bit upset with me. And she was like, no, I just, like, I don't think I. I don't think you needed to, like, nitpick my vocals all that much. And I was like, got it, got it, got it. So what had happened was I was, like, trying to vocal produce her on, like, a demo for, like, the better part of an hour and a half, and I was like, mm. Again? Again?
Amy Poehler
You were like, I, I. I can tell when you're a little flat.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. Is it. Sorry. Do you know where you were wrong? She was like, cool, cool, cool. So I don't know if she wants to work with me again, but I love working with her.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Love working with her. I don't think I'm maybe the person for her, which I totally get. I'm a bit neurotic.
Amy Poehler
It's funny. You are a bit neurotic. You don't seem neurotic in a studio setting. Okay. Okay.
Renee Rapp
I'm pretty insufferable to be around.
Amy Poehler
You want to get it right?
Renee Rapp
Yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be it.
Amy Poehler
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Renee Rapp
I mean, it's the best.
Amy Poehler
It's an incredible story.
Renee Rapp
It's so incredible. It's the best. So they, Celeste and a couple of other people had written into the skit that I was doing. They're like, okay, we're gonna call you a little bisexual intern. And at that time, I was like, very publicly bisexual. I had been for a very long time. And in private, I was talking with my girlfriend And a lot of my friends for the last maybe eight months before that of being, like, I actually don't really feel very, like, bi at the moment. I feel, like, very much like a lesbian. And, like, it feels so nice. And, like, that word feels amazing and feels very, like, euphoric for me. So I was like, do you think that we could just change it to, like, gay? Because I was honestly, a little. I don't know. Like, labeling yourself publicly is really, really, really empowering. And also, I think, can be kind of intimidating because you're like, jesus fucking Christ. This feels, for me right now. And I don't want to go buy something that doesn't feel correct, but I'm also going to, like, give myself the willingness to be like, what if in 10 years, I don't like that identity either? And I just want to. I don't know. Like, what if in 10 years I'm completely different in terms of my identity and sexuality or, like, my gender expression? Anything like that. Or if I decide to be a really nice person, then I want to be like, wait, I'm fucking nice now. I'm nice now, right? I want to have the grace to be able to change from being a bitch to being a sweetheart. So, whatever. But, yeah, I was just like, I maybe, like, gay. I don't know. And Celeste was like, yeah, like, literally whatever you want. And I was like, okay, and I love Celeste. And then I was talking to Bowen about it, and I was like, I kind of just want to be like. Like, slur. No, I kind of just want to be, like, like, lesbian. I was like, I'm just gonna kind of do it. And I called Toa and then I was like, babe, I think I'm just gonna, like, rip. Like. I think it, like, feels good. Also, to, like, come out as a lesbian on, like, SNL is, like, pretty cunty. I was like, I'm gonna do it for sure. And I was also like, okay, I'm probably gonna disappoint a lot of people who felt like they connected with, like, the very openly bisexual part of me. And I'm also probably gonna piss a lot of other people off. And I was like, okay. What else do I live to do other than, like, cause, like, a controversy? Sue me. Like, fine.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Renee Rapp
What a big fucking problem. So then I just. I wanted to do it. And Bowen and Celeste and everybody were like, hell, yeah.
Amy Poehler
What's been the feedback? How did it feel to do it? And what. Did anything change after you did it?
Renee Rapp
I mean, I definitely. I kind of just like, didn't even, like, look online afterward because I was like, I don't care.
Amy Poehler
How did it feel in your life? In your real life?
Renee Rapp
Amazing.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
So fucking good. Like, so fucking good. I think also just, like, being from somewhere incredibly rural, you know, you. I don't know, like, you don't, like. It's just like. It's like, fucking, like, Maga Town where I grew up at. And, like, it always has been. And it's probably better now than it was when I was a kid, or it's 10 times worse in so many ways. So I think for me, I was, like. It was. It was really interesting because I think a lot of the people who I grew up around who were incredibly homophobic are very supportive of me now that I am, like, a public person. Because I think the idea of fame and wealth can sometimes trump hate if it's close in proximity, which is really fucking frustrating. Cause I'm like, I know you don't like anybody else who's gay, and you don't like me either. You just like the idea of the closeness to, like, something that is very shallow. So much so that you're willing to, like, put your bigotry to the side for a second to be like, oh, I babysat her. I'm like, no, you're a fucking homophobe, and I don't like you to the day, and I will never like you. My neighbors are boycotting Target for having, like, a pride line. I'm like, I could give a fuck about y' all. I could give a fuck about y' all. So that, in that way, really frustrated me.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Because I was like, you don't get to be, like, supportive of this thing now that it's easy for you and fun for you and something for you to fucking brag about.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. You must feel very youthful.
Renee Rapp
So used. So used.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
And then on the other side of that, I, like, love being a lesbian, and I love the lesbian community so much, and I love, like, the community surrounding lesbians that, like, like, really fuck with us. I don't know. So there's, like. There's really bad, and there's really, really good.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. I also, like, I love to watch people come out publicly who feel like they can and then, like, change their identity or not. It's just kind of. I don't know. It's not for everyone, but, like, for me, it was definitely an integral part of my life.
Amy Poehler
Well, I think what you're talking about is that by doing it, you're just kind of like, Leading by example. This idea that everything doesn't have to be so serious. Like, you can decide if. As long as it's you deciding totally, then you can decide however and whenever and wherever you want. It can be in your parents house, it can be on snl, it can be in a relationship. Like that is. I think, what, if I may speak for myself, like, what Gen Z has done for me. Right. What young people do for me is I came up at a time when labels meant so much. They were not only were they lifelong, they were like tattoos, Right?
Renee Rapp
Absolutely.
Amy Poehler
So people were very, very afraid. Like, what if I get something wrong?
Renee Rapp
Basically? Absolutely.
Amy Poehler
What if I get it wrong? Or like to your point, what if I want to change? Or what if I'm kind of 10% this and 90% that? Or what if I'm in the middle? There was no. There was. It was really binary.
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And Gen Z, because life has been so serious, Gen Z is kind of balanced it by saying, like, it's not that serious.
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
It's not that. It's okay. It's make a mistake or not.
Renee Rapp
Totally.
Amy Poehler
Decide however you want. Relax. And there's some way that you did that. And the way that you do that, the way you live authentically, that's very real relaxing. And I think it's very cool.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, thanks. Very cool. It's nice. I. I like. I don't know, I enjoy it. I also just have like a big, like, group of like gay friends around me. Like, I like have like my like gaggle of lesbians.
Amy Poehler
So. Speaking of.
Renee Rapp
Please.
Amy Poehler
We do a thing here where we ask your friends or people that know you to talk. Well behind your back.
Renee Rapp
They talk shit about me.
Amy Poehler
No.
Renee Rapp
Okay, I believe it. It's totally fine.
Amy Poehler
No, it's. No, it's like, it's like. It's like the. On the. It's like mean girls, but not mean girls. It's the other side of it, which is basically. We got Cara Delevingne. We talked to her today.
Renee Rapp
Such a common whore.
Amy Poehler
Incredible. By the way, when we called her, she was in Paris and there was. Was her. Her. Her partner was naked in the bed. And so she's wearing headphones and like, she looked. She's so. I mean, supermodels are so hot.
Renee Rapp
Models are so hot. We gotta start talking about it more. Models are so fucking hot. Let's just be clear. Models are so fucking hot.
Amy Poehler
I know a lot of. Yeah, this is a hot take. Yeah, Models are hot.
Renee Rapp
Models are hot.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And they're pretty. They're pretty. On camera. They're pretty during the day, they're pretty during the night.
Renee Rapp
All the time. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
Literally all the time. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Good job, models. Cara wanted me to ask you a couple questions, please.
Renee Rapp
I'm sure they're.
Amy Poehler
She had incredible questions.
Renee Rapp
I was going to say, I'm sure they're very PG and. And very normal.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Renee Rapp
And super.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, totally. First of all, what would your drag king name be?
Renee Rapp
Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
I know. I got. I'll. I'll let you think. It's so good. I got a little put on the spot and I. Yeah, what did you say? Well, I picked what. I got nervous.
Renee Rapp
That's okay.
Amy Poehler
So I said, you know, like, when you're trying. When you're trying to figure out, like, your dancer name, your exotic dancer name, you do the street that you grew up on and your first pet.
Renee Rapp
Oh, no, I didn't know that.
Amy Poehler
Okay, this is what is answer. Probably because this was set in, like, 1970.
Renee Rapp
It's good.
Amy Poehler
But so. So my. The street. So I said Bradley Algonquin was my drag king name because that was the street I grew up on, and I had a guinea pig named Bradley.
Renee Rapp
Oh, I thought your guinea pig's name was Algonquin.
Amy Poehler
No, I was like, wait, yeah, Algonquin. Yeah, I know, but so. So, but anyway, we'll cut this part out.
Renee Rapp
But no, I like it. I like it. I actually think it's pretty strong.
Amy Poehler
There's nothing worse than giving a drag name and people going, wait, what? Explain it. And then you have to explain it. And then they go, no, I like it.
Renee Rapp
Well, Algonquin is where I was like. I was more just like, where's the guinea pig?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, Algonquin, actually.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, but that was your street name.
Amy Poehler
So I just gave that to myself. But again, no one's ever gonna hear this.
Renee Rapp
We're gonna point all this out, and my Social Security is a spotless.
Amy Poehler
Okay, so what is your drag king name? And do you like. I mean, I actually have to say, like, what I really love about you is, like, your experience, experimentation with masc and femme. You do it a lot in your. In your work and in the way you dress. And I really relate to that because I'm always very confused about how to dress.
Renee Rapp
100.
Amy Poehler
100 fucking percent very confused. And you present both often. Like, you're. You go back and forth, and again, you're showing us by example that you don't have to choose.
Renee Rapp
Thanks. Yeah, I've, like, watched so many people do it so well, who does it? Well, I mean, not to be, like, so annoying, but, like, my girlfriend does it really well.
Amy Poehler
I wasn't gonna say, but she really does do it well.
Renee Rapp
Like, she's fine as hell. What are you gonna do? Yeah, take me out. Like, it's fine. She really does. I don't know.
Amy Poehler
I didn't know how to answer it. It's a really good question. I mean, we could think of some fun pun. Like, you know, instead of, you know, we. Instead of Timothee Chalamet, you could be called Timothee Chalagay. Is that good?
Renee Rapp
That that's it. That's actually it, right? I can't even explain to you how much exactly that is it, but it is.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God, we did it.
Renee Rapp
That's perfect.
Amy Poehler
And then the other question she had, which was amazing. Who would be in your girl band if you could put together a girl band? Dead or alive, if you could put together a girl band?
Renee Rapp
Good question. Oh, my God. Okay, I have a real one and I have a fake one.
Amy Poehler
Okay, great.
Renee Rapp
Okay, the real one would be me, Karen Carpenter, Beyonce, and, oh, maybe like, Queen Latifah or something amazing. Something so sick.
Amy Poehler
Dana Owens. I'm like, I love Queen Latifah.
Renee Rapp
I'm like, please, that would be so hard.
Amy Poehler
Have you ever met her again?
Renee Rapp
I was forced. Yeah, by Cara.
Amy Poehler
How funny.
Renee Rapp
She takes me up to everybody that I'm scared of.
Amy Poehler
She is so great. Like. Like, no surprise, but amazing. She's amazing.
Renee Rapp
She's amazing. She's so cool. And it's also just like, so she's, like, timeless. She's so timeless to me.
Amy Poehler
So that's your real band then. What about you said you had a fake one?
Renee Rapp
Yes. Fake band is me. Nene leaks, Ellen DeGeneres and Wendy Williams. That's the one I want. That's the one I want.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, that makes sense.
Renee Rapp
I want that bad. Keep talking about it.
Amy Poehler
I'll do your manager of that band.
Renee Rapp
Probably Cara, she'd manage it. Yeah, yeah, she'd manage it. I don't know how much, like, managing would be, like, done, but I know that she'd manage it.
Amy Poehler
And who would be your opening act if you guys went on the road?
Renee Rapp
Maybe like, like, you as your character from inside out.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. I would dress up as Joy and be your opening act.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, that'd be super cute.
Amy Poehler
That would be.
Renee Rapp
But no, like, head. Like face paint.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Renee Rapp
Like, you're just true.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, that would be like an acid trip.
Renee Rapp
I would love to do acid while doing that. I'd be like, this is fucking awesome. And then we also get Ellen to, like, do Dory as well on the side.
Amy Poehler
Hold on now I see it now. Thank you for that. That's great. So I'll come out as Joy from inside out, and then Ellen will join me as Dory.
Renee Rapp
Oh, my.
Amy Poehler
And then you assume that's all we're going to see?
Renee Rapp
Event. Sorry. Nope.
Amy Poehler
She comes back. She washes her face paint.
Renee Rapp
Right.
Amy Poehler
And she comes back in the van.
Renee Rapp
As a girl group. Yeah. I mean, fuck yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Fuck is right.
Renee Rapp
That's sold out now, as you would say.
Amy Poehler
That fucks.
Renee Rapp
No.
Amy Poehler
That fucks yeah. That fucks.
Renee Rapp
That does Fuck yeah.
Amy Poehler
Now, what are you listening to these days? Watching. Doing, like, how do you check out when you're, like, when you need to rest your brain or get away from the hard stuff? What's making you laugh? What are you. Where do you go?
Renee Rapp
I watch. Oh, sorry. Go.
Amy Poehler
No. What do you want?
Renee Rapp
No, no, I'll cut myself out.
Amy Poehler
I love to hear what people are watching.
Renee Rapp
I watch svu.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Renee Rapp
I watch svu.
Amy Poehler
Which one?
Renee Rapp
Law and Order with Christopher Melonian. That's right.
Amy Poehler
So talk to me about why that. That. That's a good checkout for you.
Renee Rapp
I love them.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Renee Rapp
I love them. Like, what the Are you doing? Yeah, it's also. The writing on that show is so crazy. It's so crazy. It's like, got a perp dead. Yep. What a shame. Raped. Absolutely. Whoa. No trigger warning right there.
Amy Poehler
And then it's like, cut to dun dun.
Renee Rapp
It's so intense, and there's so much going on, and you're like, holy shit. This is. Either. I can't tell if this is awesome or if it's so, so bad. And I think everyone agrees with that. It's quick, and I need something that's quick because I don't want time to think about something else because then I'll start tweaking. And I also think Christopher Meloni is kind of fucking jacked, and it's. It's hot.
Amy Poehler
He's not kind of.
Renee Rapp
He's super jacked. Have you ever seen the picture of him in, like, a middle split when he did, like, Men's Health? This one love.
Amy Poehler
I'm gonna say something. I love Christopher Maloney. I did a movie with him. I don't like men doing splits.
Renee Rapp
Can I be honest?
Amy Poehler
I don't, like. I don't find that attractive. I. Yeah, no, straight woman.
Renee Rapp
Totally.
Amy Poehler
I don't enjoy flexible men.
Renee Rapp
I couldn't agree more. I don't like, like, oh, this is gonna. And Some of my friends do this, and that's okay. I do just want to flag. Some of y' all do this, and that's all right. I'm not big into boys flipping.
Amy Poehler
Doing backflips.
Renee Rapp
We gotta cut that out.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I don't like. Okay. And this is just my person, right? You don't even like boys. No, but this is just my personal preference. But I totally agree. Any kind of, like, goofy gymnastics.
Renee Rapp
Totally. I've just been, like, verbally and physically assaulted by too many theater boys. Theater twinks. The straight theater twinks who ruined my life as kids who were like, wait, I do a flip. And so the director was like, front and center.
Amy Poehler
Front and center. They're like, do that flip.
Renee Rapp
Yeah. They're like, come on. Come on, Joey. And Joey's only getting front and center because the director has a massive crush on him and he can do a flip.
Amy Poehler
This is before your time. There was a movie, a great movie called the Outsiders. Do you know that movie?
Renee Rapp
Heard of it.
Amy Poehler
Okay, so it was based off of a book, and it was all young Rob Lowe and young Patrick Swayze and all these boys. And Tom Cruise is famously in it. And he's one of the. And it's one of his first films, and he's like, one of the bad guys. And I remember being like, he's cool. And then he does a backflip in it, and I was like, top down, though.
Renee Rapp
Immediately out. Immediately out.
Amy Poehler
I lost. He lost it for me.
Renee Rapp
There's something about it that's a bit vulnerable. I'm like, wait, cut that out. You're a boy. What are you doing?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, and. And look, I've seen you lift your leg. You are very flexible. Now, girls can be flexible. Boys shouldn't be flexible.
Renee Rapp
Boys shouldn't be allowed to be flexible. Cut that shit out. Cut that shit out now.
Amy Poehler
But I've seen you sing and lift your leg like this when your leg is, like, up.
Renee Rapp
And that. That, too, is similar to the flipping. Something that people shouldn't do when they're singing.
Amy Poehler
If you can do it, you should do it all the time.
Renee Rapp
Oh, if you're, like, dancing or doing something fucking incredible, absolutely. But, like, people shouldn't do what I did. That was weird.
Amy Poehler
I'm gonna take back my thing, though, about boys in gymnastics for one reason. Two times I found men doing gymnastics exciting. One was in Footloose, when Kevin Bacon's stunt double, during his dance break, he swung on a high bar in a barn. And I was like, but that's cool.
Renee Rapp
That's Not a problem.
Amy Poehler
That was cool. That was cool.
Renee Rapp
I was like, what are you doing on that pole, you little slut?
Amy Poehler
That's cute.
Renee Rapp
That's cute. That's okay.
Amy Poehler
And I liked it, and it didn't bother me.
Renee Rapp
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And the other one was that great gymnast that was on the pommel horse.
Renee Rapp
That wanted with the glasses, obsessed with. Okay, cute. He can do that. But that's like their. That's his job.
Amy Poehler
That's his job. You know what?
Renee Rapp
That's his job.
Amy Poehler
If backflips are your. And splits are your job, do it.
Renee Rapp
Do it tenfold.
Amy Poehler
Go for it.
Renee Rapp
Sexy. Love it.
Amy Poehler
You're good at your job.
Renee Rapp
Commit.
Amy Poehler
If you're just doing it in the middle of the street, keep walking.
Renee Rapp
And I'm not saying that. Like, if I could flip, which I can't. So I'm not, like. I'm not hating because I can't do it.
Amy Poehler
Are you. Wait a minute. Hold on. You just brought something up. Do you think we're hating on it because we can't do it, literally?
Renee Rapp
No, I think it's weird. I'm sorry. And that's. And by the way, that doesn't mean that other people should say it's weird about anybody else. Okay? Because I really, like. I love my friends, and if they want to flip, fucking flip. It's just not my thing. It's not my thing.
Amy Poehler
You know, if the back flippers come.
Renee Rapp
For us, they're gonna fucking.
Amy Poehler
Whatever. I'm ready. If backflippers come from us, we can just run away. Cause they're backflipping all the time.
Renee Rapp
But they'll kick us.
Amy Poehler
They will kick us from us.
Renee Rapp
Think about the strength in that thigh.
Amy Poehler
I mean, have you ever done this where. I love Law and Order? The original Law and Order. The first, like, 12 seasons with Benji Brat, and I've never watched it.
Renee Rapp
I'll lock in.
Amy Poehler
It's so good. With Jerry Orbach and S. Patha Murkison as the lieutenant. It's just like it's the early Law and Order that every. It's the, you know, sui generis. It's the mother ship that all of them were based off of. And they have that little exchange always before the bump, bump. And you can sometimes guess the last line.
Renee Rapp
Absolutely. Oh, my God. There was one last night I wish I could remember because it's just so crazy. It's so crazy. It's in. I'm like. I can't imagine delivering that line.
Amy Poehler
Right. Like, there's a. You know, a body found in Central Park. And someone's like, yeah, yeah, it was during the marathon, you know, and. And the. The suspect was found here under the tree. And then Jory. Jerry Orbach comes over and just goes like, well, I guess he's not making it to the finish line today.
Renee Rapp
Exactly.
Amy Poehler
And you're just like, exactly.
Renee Rapp
I cannot imagine having to deliver that line. I would walk out. I'd walk right on out of a set. I'd be like, you know what?
Amy Poehler
I disagree. I think you'd nail it.
Renee Rapp
Oh, my God. I could. My, like, what's it, suspension of disbelief or something? I'm not. Oh, I'm not good at that. If I get, like. If there's a line that I'm like, I can't do this. I, like, totally shut down as a.
Amy Poehler
As a person, I'm gonna say that you're underestimating yourself. Because what I have learned about you, Renee, if I may, is that you're pretty good at overriding nerves. To get to level up, you've done it over and over again.
Renee Rapp
Sure, yeah. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
How do you get through the scary parts? What do you do?
Renee Rapp
I really just don't take it seriously. I just do not take it seriously. Because when I take myself too seriously, I panic. Yeah, I panic because it's like. Like, oftentimes it's truly not. As much as I hate to say this, it's truly not about me, so. And no one fucking used that against me.
Amy Poehler
Okay. But, like, you know what? I'm gonna just finish by saying this. I've seen examples of you being, like, a very loving and supportive person in real time, and I know that about you, and I heard that about you.
Renee Rapp
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Can you advocate for yourself the same way?
Renee Rapp
Oh, absolutely.
Amy Poehler
Okay, great.
Renee Rapp
Oh, with a quickness. With a quickness. Yeah. Because, like, people, you know, great kids are assholes. People are assholes. I was an asshole. Like, I'm sure there were so many times I can recall that, like, people were assholes to me when I was growing up in school. And I guarantee that there were 10,000 times that I was so mean to somebody else for no reason because I was pissed at myself or pissed off at somebody else. So, like, I don't know. That's not to say that sometimes I'm not an asshole. I totally am.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but just like how you said earlier, you may might want to identify as a nice person soon.
Renee Rapp
I know I might need to, like, tap into that, like, sort of like little, like, pigtail kind of infinity scarf girl again. Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
We're back to the infinity scarf.
Renee Rapp
That's perfect.
Amy Poehler
Full circle, just like the infinity scarf.
Renee Rapp
Totally. I'm straight again.
Amy Poehler
You're straight again.
Renee Rapp
I'm straight again.
Amy Poehler
That's what I do to people. Sorry ladies. I made Renee straight again.
Renee Rapp
Fuck.
Amy Poehler
I know. Don't worry, we'll get her back. We'll get her out of the room. We'll get her back.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, come out with the lesbians, you'll be gay yourself.
Amy Poehler
I mean, I wish.
Renee Rapp
Oh my God. Literally come out. We go out every weekend. Come out.
Amy Poehler
Where are you going this weekend?
Renee Rapp
Literally wherever.
Amy Poehler
Okay. That's not a place anywhere ever.
Renee Rapp
The problem is you go out late. No. Well yeah, but like you'll be so fine, I promise.
Amy Poehler
What time do you get? Leave the house.
Renee Rapp
House. Like what time do you want to leave the house?
Amy Poehler
I'm asking you, what time does your night start?
Renee Rapp
Like a nine. A nine?
Amy Poehler
Oh, that's not bad.
Renee Rapp
Yeah, cuz we'll get like dinner before. Cuz you need to eat if you're going to go out.
Amy Poehler
I can't. I can't do two things. It's either one, out or dinner.
Renee Rapp
I get it, I get it, I get it.
Amy Poehler
You know what? I'm so sorry.
Renee Rapp
I can't go. That's okay. That's totally okay.
Amy Poehler
I'm so stressed. I'm so tired.
Renee Rapp
Don't worry, don't worry.
Amy Poehler
And I know nine means 9:30 and then it's going to take our food lesbians super late. And then, and then my stomach is.
Renee Rapp
Full and you know you need an anti acid.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. And I'm going to have to take a Pepcid or something.
Renee Rapp
That's okay.
Amy Poehler
But have a good time and tell me how it goes.
Renee Rapp
100%. I'll send you, send you photos.
Amy Poehler
Renee, thank you so much for doing this. This is so fun.
Renee Rapp
Thanks for having me.
Amy Poehler
This was a blast. Thank you. Renee Rapp, you were awesome. And you know this is the part of the show where I just give little shout outs. It's the polar plunge, if you will, where we go deeper. So first of all, check out flossy baby on TikTok and probably other platforms. She's hilarious and she was at the beach when Renee fell in love. So she's technically, she's technically good luck. And also because we're talking about music, I just want to point out that our theme song, the Good Hang theme song is written by the great Amy Miles. Amy Miles is a singer songwriter from New York City. My dear friend for over 25 years. She's incredibly talented. She wrote this for us. And so many of you wanna hear the whole song. And so we want you to go to Spotify. Go to Spotify. And check out Amy Miles and check out the Good Hang theme song. You can get it there. And show her some love because she's so talented and she's my friend and I love her. Thank you, Amy. Okay, thanks, everybody. Never know how to end these. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paperclip Kite. For the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, cat Spillane, Kaia McMullen and Alaya Zaneris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is almost here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eater. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese, a cabana that's a no. But a banana, that's a yes. A day of sunshine? No. A box of fine wines? Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get Almost Almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now for alcohol. You must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. C app for D details. This episode is brought to you by Degree Cool Rush deodorant. I'm a big fan of people owning their mistakes. Like how last year, Degree changed their Cool Rush formula and men were mad. One guy even started a petition so Degree listened, admitted they messed up, and they're now bringing the OG Cool Rush scent back. It's clean, crisp and fresh. No wonder it's been the number one men's antiperspirant for the last decade. And it's in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under $4. Just look for the light blue one. Degree Cool Rush is back and it smells like victory for everyone.
Podcast Summary: Good Hang with Amy Poehler – Episode Featuring Renee Rapp
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The episode kicks off with Amy Poehler warmly welcoming Renee Rapp, a multifaceted pop star and actress known for her music and stage performances.
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Renee introduces the concept of "dadication," highlighting her dedication as a father, emphasizing responsibility and the desire to raise a good person.
Amy reminisces about first encountering Renee through Tina Fey’s "Phone Love," leading to discussions about Renee’s early career, including her audition process for "Mean Girls."
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Renee shares her initial overconfidence during auditions, particularly for her role in "Mean Girls," illustrating her early approach to her acting career.
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Amy shifts the conversation to Renee’s musical endeavors, particularly her upcoming album "Bite Me" and the single "Leave Me Alone."
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The playful interaction highlights the seamless blend of humor and admiration between host and guest.
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A significant portion of the conversation delves into Renee's personal life, particularly her relationship with her girlfriend and how they met.
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Their candid discussion underscores the genuine and affectionate nature of Renee's relationship.
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Renee opens up about her evolving sexual identity, transitioning from identifying as bisexual to embracing her identity as a lesbian.
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This segment emphasizes the fluidity of sexual identity and the importance of personal authenticity.
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Renee shares insights into the challenges she faced in her professional life, particularly balancing her dual roles as a singer and an actress.
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Renee candidly discusses the mental and emotional challenges of her demanding career schedule.
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The conversation explores Renee's musical collaborations, inspirations, and future aspirations.
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These quotes reflect the casual and humorous tone amidst discussions of creative processes.
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Amy and Renee engage in playful and humorous exchanges, showcasing their rapport and ability to keep the conversation light-hearted.
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Their banter over hypothetical scenarios and playful questions adds levity to the episode.
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Renee touches upon her strategies for handling stress and maintaining mental health amidst her busy career.
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Renee emphasizes the importance of not overburdening herself, highlighting her approach to managing anxiety and stress.
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The episode wraps up with final exchanges that reinforce the bond between Amy and Renee, leaving listeners with a sense of warmth and connection.
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Their closing remarks return to humor, encapsulating the friendly and relaxed atmosphere of the podcast.
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Conclusion: This episode of "Good Hang with Amy Poehler" offers an intimate glimpse into Renee Rapp's multifaceted life as an artist and individual. Through candid conversations, humor, and heartfelt exchanges, listeners are treated to a rich narrative that celebrates authenticity, personal growth, and the joy of simply having a good time.
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