Selena Gomez

Summary

Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Episode: Selena Gomez
Date: September 9, 2025
Podcast by The Ringer
Guest: Selena Gomez | Also featuring Martin Short

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Good Hang" brings together Amy Poehler and her guest Selena Gomez for an hour of lively, candid, and often hilarious conversation. Amy focuses on the present and future of Selena's life—her career as a powerful businesswoman behind Rare Beauty, her experiences working on the hit show Only Murders in the Building with comedy legends, her musical upbringing, family influences, and her approach to self-care, boundaries, and giving back. The episode also features a delightful warm-up chat with Martin Short, Gomez's co-star and close friend.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Martin Short on Working With Selena (02:22-10:18)

• Martin Short and Amy trade stories and banter about working with Selena Gomez and the culture on set.
• Martin praises Selena’s professionalism and kindness, recounting their first meeting and noting her "old pro" work ethic:
  • Quote (Martin Short, 04:15):
    "The thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had never met her... as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, what is Selena Gomez going to be like?... right away, I met her in the makeup room, and she smiled at me and went, ah, ah, we're fine. And she's just been a doll."
• On the intensity of working under public scrutiny:
  • When the show films on location, Martin and Steve Martin attract light interest—until Selena joins:
    Quote (Martin, 06:41):
    "When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day... I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble."
• Amy and Martin reflect on Gomez’s success as an entrepreneur and discuss the double standards faced by women in business.

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2. Selena Gomez on the Present & Her Joyful Era (13:36-14:51)

• Amy tells Selena she wants to focus less on Selena’s past and more on her impressive present—and future.
• Selena expresses her genuine enjoyment of her current chapter:
  • Quote (Selena, 14:01):
    "I really love this era, if you will. The past five years have been wonderful."
• Amy offers playful book titles for Selena’s current life:
  • "The Best Part Yet", "33 and Feeling Free", "The Best is Here"

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3. Rare Beauty: Origins, Accessibility & Impact (15:18-24:04)

• Selena discusses growing up in a family that valued self-care—her mother was a makeup artist at MAC.
• Amy and Selena talk about the importance of maintaining "goofiness" and authenticity at any age, especially for young girls.
• On Rare Beauty’s accessible packaging, directly informed by Selena’s own experiences with lupus and arthritis:
  • Quote (Selena, 22:43):
    "We started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems. And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not, because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age."
• Amy notes the power of Selena using her own health challenges to drive inclusivity and empathy in her brand.

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4. Behind the Scenes: On Set with Steve & Marty (27:54-34:05)

• Selena credits her punctuality and professionalism to her grandfather:
  • Quote (Selena, 28:36):
    "My pawpaw used to say, if you are on time, you're already late. So that means I get to places 30 minutes before..."
• The set of Only Murders in the Building is described as joyful, disciplined, and filled with gentle mischief—driven by the work ethic of Steve Martin and Martin Short:
  • Quote (Selena, 29:46):
    "They are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that’s a huge inspiration to me."
• They discuss the rarity of professionalism in the entertainment world; Amy expounds on the "artistic lateness" trope.

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5. Musical Influences & Family Roots (42:05-44:22)

• Selena credits her dad for exposing her to 90s hip hop and Tejano music, and her mom for a love of classical.
• Both discuss the richness of Tejano music, especially singers like Linda Ronstadt and Selena Quintanilla.
• Singing in Spanish feels different for Selena ("my voice changes, it's so weird"), adding a new dimension to her artistry.

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6. Life with Benny Blanco & Cooking Adventures (44:29-50:31)

• Selena is proud of her fiancé Benny Blanco and talks about living in a "house with two musicians (and orange peels everywhere)".
  • Quote (Selena, 44:35):
    "He’s musically talented, in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch... I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter."
• Cooking is a space for togetherness, learning, and managing anxiety.
• Her beloved recipe: her Nana’s chicken and dumplings, a southern comfort food.
  • Quote (Selena, 48:51):
    "Oh, my Nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a very Southern dish... Cozy weather."

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7. Social Media & Boundaries (51:35-55:07)

• Selena speaks candidly about stepping back from TikTok and social media to protect her well-being.
  • Quote (Selena, 54:17):
    "I don’t read anything. I don’t have comments enabled on my page... I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that."
• She sees social media as a way to connect with her community—but does so selectively for self-care.

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8. Giving Back: Charity and Responsibility (55:07-56:49)

• The conversation turns to purpose and philanthropy; Rare Beauty donates a portion of proceeds to support youth mental health.
  • Quote (Selena, 55:38):
    "That's also the community because 1% of our products... Again, it's people contributing to helping young people have access to mental health."

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9. Protecting Energy & Setting Boundaries (56:49-58:18)

• Selena finds it hard to say "no" to fans, but is learning to balance public exposure and her private well-being.
• Amy offers a perspective on learning to protect your own energy in your 30s—an ongoing process for both women.

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10. Comedy, Joy, and Recommendations (60:11-63:01)

• For laughter, Selena loves spontaneous moments, time on set, and shows/movies with her partner.
• Recommends "I Think You Should Leave" (Tim Robinson’s show) and horror movies like Barbarian and The Conjuring.
  • Quote (Selena, 60:52):
    "I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity... Those are the joyous [things], making someone laugh or... having your partner laugh with you."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Martin Short on working with Selena Gomez (04:15):
  "She is just an old pro...she smiled at me and went, ah, ah, we're fine. And she's just been a doll."
• Selena on Rare Beauty's accessible design (22:43):
  "We started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems...it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age."
• Amy on being early and airport habits (32:19):
  "I like to get there with plenty of time. Go look at the gate. You have to see the gate. Make sure, it's there."
• Selena on boundaries and social media (54:17):
  "I don’t read anything. I don’t have comments enabled on my page...I want it to be fun for me."
• Selena on comedic heroes & influences (35:27):
  "I grew up watching Will and Grace, Friends...And then Channel 33 would be Frasier after."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Martin Short guest intro & praise for Selena: 02:22–08:12
• Amy and Selena open up about the present: 13:36–14:51
• Rare Beauty origins & inclusivity: 15:18–24:04
• Behind the scenes with Steve & Marty: 27:54–34:05
• Musical influences: 42:05–44:22
• Cooking & Benny Blanco: 44:29–50:31
• Social media/mental health boundaries: 51:35–55:07
• Giving back & Rare Impact: 55:07–56:49
• Comedy, laughter, & recommendations: 60:11–63:01

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the joyful, thoughtful spirit of Selena Gomez and Amy Poehler's rapport. They trade wisdom and warmth on staying creative, navigating fame, running a business, giving back, and carving out joy in adulthood. Selena’s candidness about her struggles, triumphs, and continued evolution sets the tone for an inspiring, relatable, and often very funny conversation—all grounded in mutual respect and celebration of female achievement.

Future only, babe.

Transcript

[Amy Poehler]

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[Selena Gomez]

Marty.

[Martin Short]

Woohoo.

[Amy Poehler]

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[Martin Short]

Hi, baby.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you for coming back. I was just saying, by the way.

[Martin Short]

I loved our show.

[Amy Poehler]

Me too. It was such a hit.

[Martin Short]

So nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker.

[Amy Poehler]

Where are you?

[Martin Short]

I'm in Toronto.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers and it was always cold. But is it, is it warm there right now?

[Martin Short]

You know, it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun as you.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

And it got very hot and very humid. No, the lake got to be 81. I know you don't believe it.

[Amy Poehler]

That's good.

[Martin Short]

And I know you still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians.

[Amy Poehler]

Have you cold plunged since we talked?

[Martin Short]

No, ma'.

[Selena Gomez]

Am.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, well, I can tell.

[Martin Short]

You can tell by the skin.

[Amy Poehler]

I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery.

[Martin Short]

You know what? By the way, fuck off. Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

We'Re going to talk to Selena today, who I don't think I've ever really met.

[Martin Short]

And really, she's absolutely lovely.

[Amy Poehler]

I know. And I. I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back.

[Martin Short]

Who are you talking to?

[Amy Poehler]

You.

[Martin Short]

Like you're talking.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm talking.

[Martin Short]

Oh, just me?

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. You're the person I'm talking to. Calling you.

[Martin Short]

You have to let me know when we're recording, because if we're recording all.

[Amy Poehler]

This, we're recording right now.

[Martin Short]

What? Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm glad I'm talking to you about Selena, because I remember when we were together, I said, oh, what's it like working with her? And you were like, she's great. Like you said, she's just a doll. And I remember thinking, oh, it's so good to hear, because that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had never met her. The first day we shot and we had zoomed, and it was because of COVID You know, you just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, what is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people, is kind of rude? Like, I knew if she was late, 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, very good. One season. I don't care how big a success, I'm not doing it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

And so right away, I met her in the makeup room, and she smiled at me and went, ah, Ah, we're fine.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

And she's just been a doll. We've really, really become very, very close. I just adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who. Just one of the great, cool guys and funny and loose, and she adores him. And. I don't know, I'm just thrilled for her happiness. And I'M thrilled to get to work with her.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. You know, I bet. I know that she gets asked a lot, what it's like, like what she's learned from working with you and Steve. But what have you learned from working with her?

[Martin Short]

I knew everything.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, it looks like nothing. Looks like you've stopped learning.

[Martin Short]

I learned you can, like, order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed.

[Amy Poehler]

Caviar egg? You never gave yourself permission to do that before.

[Martin Short]

I didn't. And I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar, but secondly, yeah, it was I'm Me. And, you know, that's my new book, I'm Me Cohen.

[Amy Poehler]

I Deserve this.

[Martin Short]

The actual working title is I is Me. I did a special once called I, Martin Short Goes Hollywood. A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world.

[Amy Poehler]

So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena, like on set and stuff? Because you guys shoot in New York, which is nice.

[Martin Short]

Yeah, yeah. She has a security person there. We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

Which is not often, but certainly happens a lot. That doesn't make any sense. Not often, but happens a lot anyway. You know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes and then they walk away. And you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day. And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or something mean, you know, that would, therefore they could, you know, make more money from it. So she's just been. That's been her life, I don't think. And she does have security on the streets. We all do. But. But she is so lovely with them and they've been in her life for so long. The only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to like this 14 year old fan of hers. And she never do that.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

You know. Oh, she.

[Selena Gomez]

There's.

[Martin Short]

You can't falter.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

You really can't. Okay, I'll tell you what. I'll. Okay, I'll tell you what's really bad about it. You can't. There's no way to.

[Amy Poehler]

And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is. I mean, she's a. She's the founder of A hugely successful business. And you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a 33 year old woman running a billion dollar business.

[Martin Short]

We once compared to each other's net worth and I told her what my net worth was and she went, oh, that's so cute. That's just adorable.

[Amy Poehler]

You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other.

[Martin Short]

I went like this. Wow. And she went like this. You know what, it's amazing. I've never seen her, I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all, collapsing from the pressure of it all. And so a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much? I also think another thing to ask her about are her music. She's just massively successful singer songwriter. But I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough for real early influences. And what was the first song that she fell in love with?

[Amy Poehler]

I love that on set. Is there singing when Jane lynch was on?

[Martin Short]

There's always singing.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Martin Short]

Steve sometimes will bring his banjo. You know what I say about the banjo? Banjo makes people who play the jug say, really? But anyway. But no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, just make it up.

[Martin Short]

You know what I heard?

[Amy Poehler]

Okay, I'm gonna ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. And I'm gonna. And I, and I do wanna talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally. You know, we don't treat female run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business. And it is crushing everything else.

[Martin Short]

I'll tell you something. When I look at not only what Selena's done, but what you've done and what Tina's done, I find myself very proud of you ladies.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us. I am proud because why you're emoting my dad.

[Martin Short]

No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying you want cream in that coffee, but you're not.

[Amy Poehler]

This doesn't feel good.

[Martin Short]

I'm trying to be as kind I know as a condescending guy can be.

[Amy Poehler]

I love you so much. Thank you.

[Martin Short]

I have a little dots, but. But I will Repeat it. One more off. Oh, it's from the SNL 50th.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, God, I can't wait. My phone is standing by.

[Martin Short]

Actually, you have my cell.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, you have mine.

[Martin Short]

Because it's what call you.

[Amy Poehler]

I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you. Can you just text it to me?

[Martin Short]

No, no, no, no. It's too long.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, my God, kids.

[Martin Short]

What is wrong with the phone?

[Amy Poehler]

I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels.

[Martin Short]

First of all, we're not going to. This isn't going to be the length of Showa. It was a brief little story.

[Amy Poehler]

I. To me, a phone convers. Phone call is bad news. Like, why am I on the phone?

[Martin Short]

No, no, no, no. But is this. And I again. Oh, my God. I so don't mean the this condescendingly negatively. But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read Cher doesn't like the phone?

[Amy Poehler]

Well, you know that I try to not like anything that Cher doesn't like.

[Martin Short]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

You know how I do.

[Martin Short]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

I. I would. You know what? Just snap me. Just snapchat me.

[Martin Short]

Okay, I'm not. You know what? This is too boring. I'm not giving you this information. I can't.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm calling you. Calling you right now. I'm calling you right now. Okay, hanging up so I can get this. Love you, Marty.

[Selena Gomez]

Bye.

[Amy Poehler]

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[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

And talk about the future.

[Selena Gomez]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

Because your present is pretty amazing. Right now.

[Selena Gomez]

Thank you so much.

[Amy Poehler]

Congratulations on the past couple of years.

[Selena Gomez]

I appreciate it. Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people. I genuinely appreciate you saying that because it's. People are going to think I'm permanently anhedonic of just not enjoying anything in life.

[Amy Poehler]

Wait, what's that word?

[Selena Gomez]

Anhedonic meaning unable to enjoy things. Wow. And I really wanted. I really love this era.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

If you will. The past five years have been wonderful.

[Amy Poehler]

Super creative for you.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. It's just been a gift that keeps going, giving from only murders to rare. All of it's just. I can't. I have to pinch myself sometimes.

[Amy Poehler]

We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created, and you're running a billion dollar business, $2 billion business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. You've got. You've, like, the past couple of years have felt like they've been this big joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people this, like, if this was. If your life is a book, what is the title of this chapter?

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, gosh.

[Amy Poehler]

Can I pitch you some ideas?

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

I would say something like really simple but poetic. Like the best part yet.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh. Or the best is yet to come.

[Amy Poehler]

The best is yet to come. Or the. The best is here. The best is here, babe.

[Selena Gomez]

And. Oh.

[Amy Poehler]

Or what is the best? Let me tell you, 33 and feeling free or whatever. But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic successful business that in my opinion, like, does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that? Did you?

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. It's actually interesting because my nana was all about self care as far as, you know, taking good care of your skin. But my mom was a makeup artist. No way. Yes. And she worked at Mac, so she had, like.

[Amy Poehler]

She's at the counter.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. And I love it. You know, like, I think she would give me all of her products that she was done with and she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas, for, like, little things. And it was really cool. So, yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out. And I'm glad, considering the pictures I see now. I just would. I would stick on all the colors and it just was really fun for me to play with. And now my Sister is gotta be 13.

[Amy Poehler]

I know.

[Selena Gomez]

So weird. But she's awesome.

[Amy Poehler]

12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.

[Selena Gomez]

Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. And also I noticed that like 12, you're still kind of. You'll like dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with. With boys and girls, it's not gendered where like you just start to be conscious of being self conscious and you just. I know.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It is a vast difference. And it makes me worried and also encouraged because I have, you know, trust in my sister and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still. So I try to like pull that out of her.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age, basically, like, no matter the person. Like you wanna. It's the secret to life. But it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you.

[Selena Gomez]

Exactly.

[Amy Poehler]

That's the power. But it takes so long to learn.

[Selena Gomez]

True. But she's been like, you know, when you are Joy. It was actually I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Because it is so factual. How I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart. And my sister watched it and she started crying and it's. Was that just crazy? Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

You know, I think.

[Selena Gomez]

What.

[Amy Poehler]

For people listening, I think you're referring. No to Inside out.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

And in the second one. Are you talking about Inside out too? Yeah. There's that, like, kind of heartbreak that happens when. When anxiety moves in and suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in. And I have to say, same no matter the age. You're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above. You're just remembering that moment when your paint set got some darker colors in it.

[Selena Gomez]

Definitely.

[Amy Poehler]

And I mean, it's part of growing up, but it's. It's brutal.

[Selena Gomez]

It is. I just. But you. You. I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie if you haven't seen it? Please watch it. I just think it's incredible. And congratulations.

[Amy Poehler]

Thanks, Selena.

[Selena Gomez]

I'm gonna make my children watch it just.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh my God, your children.

[Selena Gomez]

I know.

[Amy Poehler]

I want to be. I want to see your babies. I know, I know, I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait.

[Selena Gomez]

They do.

[Amy Poehler]

I also want to talk to you about like typical day of you running your business because you have basically three to four full time jobs.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

And one would be enough. And you have a lot of full time jobs and you know the great Martin Short. I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests back and, and he's, you know, he's such so in love with you. And we. He was just saying like I never see Selena like overwhelmed. Like she doesn't do that thing. Which is like, oh, I can't handle today.

[Selena Gomez]

Right.

[Amy Poehler]

Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. What's a typical day like for you?

[Selena Gomez]

Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true though.

[Amy Poehler]

You're just hiding.

[Selena Gomez]

I think it's. I. Well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer balance. But it is when I, when I am doing only murders. It's, you know, it can be 12 to 14 hour days and it's five days a week. And I have like my entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kind of have to have all of my focus there.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, texts. I don't like email texts.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh my God. Martin. Marty wanted to, I know. Talk on the phone. I was like, are you nuts?

[Selena Gomez]

They've made. I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've turned into both of them somehow.

[Amy Poehler]

And you're talking on the sending faxes.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes. And I don't.

[Amy Poehler]

Using a Filofax.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, I just, I'm always. If I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she a thousand percent will go there and it could be a complete failure.

[Amy Poehler]

But so you can be like, I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to like have a lemon? You know, do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever?

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, I definitely will come up with things.

[Amy Poehler]

What have you come up with that you're like, that was good.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, when we first started the company, I'd say the blushes were the liquid. Blushes have been my Pride and joy, because that was. That was one of the most important, you know, moments for rare. And I think the. The texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way, and you can just feel it and smell it, even. And I was able to go to Italy, where, you know, we did most of our products, and it's. It's wild. You know, it's just. It's a whole process.

[Amy Poehler]

You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have easily accessible products that are easy to open.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen?

[Selena Gomez]

So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers, and that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle, and it hurt really bad. Before I was on the right medication, and we somehow inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, wait, they kind of have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems. And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not, because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. And that's why we want to make them easy and accessible, because it's important to me, and it always has been. So even down to our fragrance, the. The pump is very easy for me to use.

[Amy Poehler]

It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very, always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own challenges, health challenges, to inform your story and your product, because it really makes people feel very seen.

[Selena Gomez]

Definitely. And I think there's, you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I'm. I've been through it, so I think I just know how it feels, and I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now, you know?

[Amy Poehler]

Do we have the scent here? May I?

[Selena Gomez]

Yes, please.

[Amy Poehler]

Look. So this is my fake food wall.

[Selena Gomez]

I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home.

[Amy Poehler]

You do?

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

What kind of stuff do you hear? Do you recognize? Okay, already. I'm loving this for a couple reasons.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, okay, basically, we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash.

[Amy Poehler]

And then it's fake orange peels.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, art. It's art. I love it might be my fiance's choice. So.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes, babe, we gotta get these oranges.

[Selena Gomez]

Like, they're the deal.

[Amy Poehler]

You're like, okay, I'm afraid people are.

[Selena Gomez]

Gonna throw them away. Yeah. Multiple people have tried, but yeah. So can I show you?

[Amy Poehler]

Yes, please.

[Selena Gomez]

Basically, it's so to lock it. It's just that little simple turn, unlock it.

[Amy Poehler]

And what are we calling this fragrance?

[Selena Gomez]

This is called Rare Eau de Parfum. I learned that. But I just say it's my rare perfume. So you could do it with, you know, your hands. You can do it however you feel like if you want to. Oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes.

[Amy Poehler]

I can smell it right now, so.

[Selena Gomez]

I know. I just realized I overdid it.

[Amy Poehler]

No, no, let me smell it. Let me take it in.

[Selena Gomez]

It will definitely.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, yeah, it smells nice.

[Selena Gomez]

It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry. How many times I sprayed it. I'm like, it's in my mouth. It smells.

[Amy Poehler]

It's, you know, the very funny bit, which is like, you know, in the 80s, you would like spray your cologne and then you'd walk through it.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, it's the gentle. Yes, Yes. I think that's what I should have done.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay, this smells really good. Everybody here.

[Selena Gomez]

We're waiting for it to calm down.

[Amy Poehler]

Everybody likes the smell in here.

[Selena Gomez]

It'll be here for a minute and.

[Amy Poehler]

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[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And he was so nice. You know, he came on this podcast.

[Selena Gomez]

Here's your first guest.

[Amy Poehler]

He was like my first guest. Him and Tina and. And him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine, and I'm sure of yours, too. And I grew up loving them, but I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together, and, of course, the show is a big, giant hit, and I said, you know, what's it like working with Selena? Like, she seems great, but you never know.

[Selena Gomez]

You never know.

[Amy Poehler]

And every report back has been and always has been like, you're such a pro.

[Selena Gomez]

My pawpaw used to say, if you are on time, you're already late. So that means I get to places 30 minutes before or I've had. My team has had to trick me because I show up so early. But I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The. The feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty, and they really, you know, spearhead the whole. You know, they started the pyramid and everything happens, and they just. They are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's. That's a huge inspiration to me. And it. It just. They've been working for so long, and if I'm tired and they're not, sometimes I'm like, whoa, okay, I can do this. You know, they. They've really. I've been very lucky to work with people who are, you know, punctual, and I. I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyment.

[Amy Poehler]

I don't think people realize in our industry, like most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired. But in our, in our industry, in the music industry, in the, in acting and in television and film, people sometimes just don't come on time. And it's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you can't, you can't get away with it.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. I wonder why.

[Amy Poehler]

I don't. I, I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely, like, real, like the magnanimous theory is that real artists, like, are often, you know, in their own kind of creative space and, like, time isn't maybe their time management maybe isn't their biggest skill. Yeah, that's a, that's a generous way.

[Selena Gomez]

To think about it.

[Amy Poehler]

And then the less generous way is, I think, to your point about anxiety. For some people, there's just like a struggle to figure out the power dynamics. And one way to get power is to make people wait. It's my worst nightmare.

[Selena Gomez]

That's, it's that worse. I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out.

[Amy Poehler]

It's so stressful.

[Selena Gomez]

It's also. I don't want to hurt. I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care, like, about me that way, but I think it's disrespectful. It's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to, but for me, it just. I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs the whole day at work. If I made the crew wait even 30 minutes, I'd be like, I'm so sorry.

[Amy Poehler]

I know, like, there's, I mean, we all make mistakes. We're humans. But there are the few times that I've overslept or I, I, I cannot tolerate the feeling of, of knowing people are waiting.

[Selena Gomez]

That's so nice to know that there's more people like that.

[Amy Poehler]

Are you an early to airport person?

[Selena Gomez]

No. Oh. I don't, I don't push it, but I do, I don't like being. This is interesting in an airport because, like, is, as you can tell, I'm a very, like, anxious person in a way. But I, I don't know. It gets me.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Like, over stimulating. Thank you.

[Amy Poehler]

You want to get, you want to kind of like.

[Selena Gomez]

I want to just keep walking right on there and then getting my little.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Blanket.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm the opposite.

[Selena Gomez]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

I like to get there with plenty of time.

[Selena Gomez]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

Go look at the gate.

[Selena Gomez]

Go look at the gate.

[Amy Poehler]

You have to see. Yeah, I have to see the gate.

[Selena Gomez]

That's true. Make sure it's there.

[Amy Poehler]

Make sure, it's there. Look at the plane, look at the gate. Like, very like airport, dad.

[Selena Gomez]

Love that.

[Amy Poehler]

Go up to the person, be like, looks like we're taking up on time. Like, I like to. I like to kick the tires a little bit.

[Selena Gomez]

I love that.

[Amy Poehler]

And have plenty of time to just, like, be a little hyper vigilant. But I understand you. The airport is a nightmare.

[Selena Gomez]

It's just. It's overstimulating. But I will say, if I'm at the Dallas airport, I like to take my time. Ooh.

[Amy Poehler]

Why?

[Selena Gomez]

What's it.

[Amy Poehler]

What's at the Dallas airport?

[Selena Gomez]

First off, it's my home. Second, it's just. I mean, whataburger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport.

[Amy Poehler]

It's like you could get lost there.

[Selena Gomez]

I just want to spend time there. Yes, it's. Yeah, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be overstimulating.

[Amy Poehler]

Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, that's clever.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm not always thinking too much about my steps. But if I can get them in, the airport is a great place to get them in.

[Selena Gomez]

Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases? You can do that. There's automatic. Oh, I've seen adults. I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something.

[Amy Poehler]

Riding the suitcase.

[Selena Gomez]

It is a grown. Yes, I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious.

[Amy Poehler]

And I don't mean to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a. Hell, no.

[Selena Gomez]

And you're kind of. Yes, that's so true.

[Amy Poehler]

Or anyone who brings their own pillow. That's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand, but if you don't.

[Selena Gomez]

Why are you gonna have it?

[Amy Poehler]

Okay, so back to Marty. So, Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting. I mean, you were. You have been. This is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people, and it keeps getting recognized in, you know, by your peers and lauded by critics. And, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, God, thank you. That's a huge bummer.

[Amy Poehler]

You were very funny on Wizards.

[Selena Gomez]

Thank you. And I'm like, what? Have you seen it?

[Amy Poehler]

But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your, like, you had timing, which is so much so much, you know, is such a big. It's.

[Selena Gomez]

Wow.

[Amy Poehler]

I can't even get the sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impactful.

[Selena Gomez]

Thank you. I don't. I. It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace Friends. Of course, you know, channel 33 would be Frasier after. Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Who did you love? Who are your comedic heroes growing up?

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, well, I mean, that's different because I feel like when I have watched, because I didn't watch, like, stand up, it was actually introduced to me when I was probably like 18, just because I was this Texas bumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was. I believe it was. See, I'm terrible. Oh, Ali Wong when she was pregnant.

[Amy Poehler]

No way. That was your first stand up special.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. And I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll like, you know, Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians. And it's actually, I have a whole appreciation and, you know, obviously for Steve and Marty, knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty. It's pretty inspiring. I don't know how other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. But I will say Wizards was so fun because I had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney. So it was fine.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. This was a bit scarier.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them. I have to say. They're really deeply funny and they're really good joke writers.

[Selena Gomez]

They're very good.

[Amy Poehler]

And their material, like, they're always searching for, like, the better joke and they're really. They won't kind of rest until they get it.

[Selena Gomez]

It's true. Trust me. I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out. And I'm like, it's funny, guys. It's funny, guys.

[Amy Poehler]

We got it. I know. I mean, still, you know, when I work with them or people that are kind of, like, trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and people, you know, the best comedians will just keep going. But do you think up until the.

[Selena Gomez]

Very last minute, that is something that I love, though, because it's so fun, but I must have heard their bits a hundred times that I could finish them, but. So I just try To. At a group hang. I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like, wow. And it's the 20th time in person. But it's actually so sweet because they. They've been best friends for, like, 35 years.

[Amy Poehler]

Their relationship is really awesome.

[Selena Gomez]

So cute. I love it.

[Amy Poehler]

And, you know, having. Truly. I looked up to both of them when I was growing up. They. I can't believe that I know them. Like, I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?

[Selena Gomez]

Honestly, Them and Meryl.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes.

[Selena Gomez]

I. I can't even imagine. Like, my life is really weird sometimes because I. We have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We. We don't. You know, we want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely. I believe and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show, because we just have fun. And you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

So I feel like I lost track of what I was.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I was saying, who. Can you believe you're friends with Meryl? I mean.

[Selena Gomez]

I mean, yes, but everyone. Davine. I love Michael Creighton. I love.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

You've had Richard Kind. I'm sorry. He's one of my favorite.

[Amy Poehler]

Bing Bong.

[Selena Gomez]

I know I'm too obsessed with your.

[Amy Poehler]

Movie, but every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this reaction because of his voice, because we never recorded together. But in Inside out, he played Bing Bong. An amazing character. And Richard is such a. Like, big personality.

[Selena Gomez]

He's so great.

[Amy Poehler]

He's so great. And it's. But it's very filled with a ton of pathos. Like, you really feel big feelings.

[Selena Gomez]

Definitely. Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just. One time he had to walk down a hall and open a door, and he just, like, walked all the way down. And we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall, and he goes, oh, well, I didn't know that. And I was like, yes, you did. We shot it, like, 15 times.

[Amy Poehler]

And then. Do you guys improvise? Like, do you do, like, do you.

[Selena Gomez]

Have Freedom Takes is what we called them.

[Amy Poehler]

Freedom Takes. We called them on Parks and Recreation. We call them Fun Runs.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, that's awesome. I like. That sounds more fun.

[Amy Poehler]

Freedom takes.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say. He'll be like, okay, okay, but let's do a freedom take. And then. And then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny, and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, I know. Because, like, get ready for it.

[Selena Gomez]

And then no one laughs, and you're.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take. And then you do it, and everyone's like, moving on.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it, too, because they. They are. They're very sweet to me, but they'll.

[Amy Poehler]

They'll.

[Selena Gomez]

They'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like, that didn't work. I was like, okay, I really appreciate it.

[Amy Poehler]

They're pros. They will not. They will not say it's funny if. If it's not. And. Okay. We should take a lip balm break, by the way.

[Selena Gomez]

Sure.

[Amy Poehler]

I take a lip. Do you have your lip?

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, I do. Oh. What kind of bomb do you use? You don't know which ones?

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by laneige.

[Selena Gomez]

I see. Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

But I could be sponsored by rareview.

[Selena Gomez]

I'm not. You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says. But my contract.

[Amy Poehler]

As if. I have a beauty contract, you know, Selena, my beauty contracts. What do you mean? What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight.

[Selena Gomez]

So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one. Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, these are great. Okay. The reviews in, they're great if you.

[Selena Gomez]

Just let them in.

[Amy Poehler]

Like it a lot. So let's get to Marty's question.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, good grief.

[Amy Poehler]

Marty had a question for you, and it was a sweet one, I think, because, you know, he was saying. You know, he was like, I don't think I talk to Selena enough about her music, you know, and she's such a sweet. I know. It's such a cute thing to say. And I mean, also, let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being comedic geniuses, are also excellent musicians.

[Selena Gomez]

It's true.

[Amy Poehler]

But his question was very sweet, which is basically just like, hold on, let me get it right. Okay. So he said, who were some of your early musical influences? And what was the song that you fell in love with early? Ooh, I know.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, it was interesting because my dad, growing up was a DJ, so I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hip hop, but my mom was very creative, so when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music. When, you know, other things were happening, she'd kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music, so I loved listening to all styles of music.

[Amy Poehler]

What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it?

[Selena Gomez]

I think. Well, Linda Ronstadt has an incredible album that is in Spanish, and she, to me, since the days of Selena Quintanilla, who kind of popped. Made it like a pop version of it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

Linda's, I thought, was incredible, too, because it's so musically charged.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

The instruments make everything sound so grand, and then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. And it just. Just hearing her. I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but I have.

[Amy Poehler]

She's.

[Selena Gomez]

It's so beautiful.

[Amy Poehler]

She's definitely like a voice of my childhood as well. Like her. My mom used to play Linda Rosella, and she's just an amazing singer. And you've recorded in Spanish, too.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Does your voice change when you sing in a different language?

[Selena Gomez]

It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things, and I don't know why.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, I can imagine. Because it's like. I don't know, it's. You're yourself, but you're playing just. You're just playing a different version of yourself, a character, in a way. And it's. It's so interesting to be singing a different language. Yeah, it's.

[Selena Gomez]

No, it's really. It's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. And you are now living with a musician.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Two musicians.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

What's it like in a house with two musicians, Orange peels everywhere.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, there's orange peels to go around. Yeah. And I'd say he's obviously, hands down. I hope everyone would agree with me. Musically talented, in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know? And it's not because I'm playing down myself. I'm really not. I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter, and everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the Same beats over and over and over.

[Amy Poehler]

That's what I imagine, is that he's playing a lot of beats.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. He's creating things. I would like to categorize myself more as an actress. So there isn't any competition, I guess. Not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny, and it was amazing because I was proud of something, and it was mine and ours, and it was fun. But I think I really depend on him for, you know, any of the tastes playlists, that kind of stuff.

[Amy Poehler]

Congrats on your engagement.

[Selena Gomez]

Thank you so much.

[Amy Poehler]

And I have to say, the other thing that I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just, like, being like, oh, cool, Selena's trying this your cooking show. I love a cooking show. Yeah. And I love cooking. And it was. For me, it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up. You know, I had a working mom. We didn't have. You know, we didn't. There wasn't a ton of. I didn't cook in the home when I was young and I had my kids, I was working a lot. I didn't cook as much. And so I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are, too. What kind of.

[Selena Gomez]

So the whole. This is what I love when people say you are a chef because you had a cooking show. No. Right.

[Amy Poehler]

But you like the idea.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes. The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say I still don't know how, because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. And I think that was challenging for me. Okay. But it was fun because I'd get it right, but it would take me five to seven hours to do it.

[Amy Poehler]

But what I liked about it is crazy. You know, you're basically to your point. You're watching somebody learn, and you're learning with them. And it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watching.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels. I don't know if he'd like, admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because he tells me what he's doing, and I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, now what? He'll go, so we're gonna make sure these onions are fully chopped. And I'm gonna caramelize them. Whatever. See, I don't even know lingo.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

He's like, I'm gonna do this. Chop the basil. And then he'd, like, completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that. I just think it's so endearing.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, I think cooking is a good way of speaking of anxiety.

[Selena Gomez]

For me.

[Amy Poehler]

It's like a place to put anxiety.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Because it's very low risk, high reward. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like, whatever, you just order in. I just tried. But if it does, you feel really good about it.

[Selena Gomez]

You're very proud. Yeah, for sure. I, I, I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with Benny because he has. Yeah, he has. He's so good. He's just really good at it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends, and he got so offended, he was like, why haven't you done that for me? I'm like, because mine was frozen. And then I added a sauce. He does everything.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take. That's all.

[Selena Gomez]

I can talk to you right now, but I try.

[Amy Poehler]

What is your. What's a meal that you like that you know to cook and you cook?

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, my Nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a very Southern dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strip, not just shredded chicken in a soup. It's the best. Cozy weather.

[Amy Poehler]

That sounds good.

[Selena Gomez]

It's so fun.

[Amy Poehler]

I love also, you know, to, like, zoom out. What was great about that show is, you know, it's just you enjoying food.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, because I love food.

[Amy Poehler]

You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

What is your. How has your relationship with food changed?

[Selena Gomez]

Hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. And Benny has spoiled me a little bit because he's, again, not to talk about it, but all, all the time. But he would, he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. So it's, it's really funny. I'm just, like, totally airing him out right now. But it, I think he, he does this thing where he'll say, I'll say, wow, this risotto is incredible. And he'll taste it and say, well, you know, I would, I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more and then, like, you see how this is set. And I just like to, like, stare at him because it's so cute.

[Amy Poehler]

He's constantly tweaking.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. He always, he always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's going to be like, what?

[Amy Poehler]

It's a very sweet. Like, making food for someone is a really tender act. It is.

[Selena Gomez]

It's really a loving act, very kind act. And he. I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him.

[Amy Poehler]

At least I can speak for me, where you just kind of start thinking about, like, what. What do I want to make tonight? Okay. And your brain, you know, your high V, your, Your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something and then it can land on a list and it can think about timing and it can think and it, like, has to click, clack away on something. And it's. If it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful because, yeah, it's. And it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing.

[Selena Gomez]

It's a feeling of accomplishment and I, I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching, like, TikToks of people cooking. Those are my favorite.

[Amy Poehler]

Me too.

[Selena Gomez]

I could just. I just appreciate it so much. And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world and it's just really. Yeah, that's. That's me. That would be my feed for sure.

[Amy Poehler]

Do you go on Tick Tock? Because that must be treacherous.

[Selena Gomez]

No, so I actually haven't been on TikTok.

[Amy Poehler]

That's great.

[Selena Gomez]

In.

[Amy Poehler]

I'm sorry, Tick Tock.

[Selena Gomez]

But. No, it's okay. All social media platforms, I'm sure, hate me at this point because I'm always like, I don't know, it's very. You could be scary.

[Amy Poehler]

100 million Instagram followers.

[Selena Gomez]

So that does it. Fine.

[Amy Poehler]

But I mean, it's fine.

[Selena Gomez]

Well, no, I'm just saying I get so, like, awkward about that because it doesn't. I don't. I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing because I.

[Amy Poehler]

My experience with social media, I think is we may share a similarity, which is that I. I feel it's like, treacherous, but it can be, to your point, like, you can find ways to feel connection.

[Selena Gomez]

Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with, you know, just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's been a Great resource for me to connect with people. I have not been on social media for a few months now. Even when I post, sometimes it's just to make sure it's like, like on my post and feed and then I don't look at anything.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

And I like happening and I feel good about it.

[Selena Gomez]

I like doing it my way, you know, And I think if I were to get into something and I'm sorry, I'm all over the place, but. And I also just want people to know, like, if it didn't come from me, it's. It's 90% false or anything. I just love being able to say this is where I am and I'm enjoying it. And yeah, I'm willing to share that part of my life and maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. And then it leads me kind of to one of our last questions, which is basically energy. Giving it, getting it. Like, it sounds like for every person in their 30s, I would say it's one of the big lessons is figuring out, okay, if your 20s is like trying to figure out what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then your 30s become like, okay, let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow.

[Selena Gomez]

Of course.

[Amy Poehler]

So how do you. What have you learned about, you know, self care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life or you can share the things that you're happy about and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you but still keep.

[Selena Gomez]

I don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my page just simply because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that with the world. Oh, sorry. That's my ride, guys.

[Amy Poehler]

Wait. This is why Selena's such a pro, is that she just stopped talking during a siren. That is, you just, like, you don't go looking for trouble.

[Selena Gomez]

I don't think it's healthy. So I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it. I think it's important. But yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am.

[Amy Poehler]

And you kind of spoke about karma earlier. What's the amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You. You give a lot of your time and you give a lot of your money. And in many ways, you know, time can be harder to give than money and you give both. And it's. You have for a very long time. Like you toured with UNICEF for many, many years. You were an ambassador. Rare beauty gives a ton of money. I was really impressed with what you guys do with you.

[Selena Gomez]

And that's also the community because 1% of our products. So again, it's people contributing to helping young people have access to mental health.

[Amy Poehler]

When you are kind of one on one dealing with someone, you've now been famous for a really long time and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you. And that's energy. Right? Like they wanna connect with you. You feel that. I know you've been like extremely loving and very supportive of people, but it's a lot to be approached sometimes to, with a lot of energy. So what do you say no to now that you didn't before? Or how do you kind of like guard your own energy, your own.

[Selena Gomez]

It's very difficult for me to say no 2 to people that I get to encounter. It's my nana taking her 14th picture of my outfit. I'm like, I can't do this. Stop. I gotta go.

[Amy Poehler]

I gotta make your dumplings. I have to go make your.

[Selena Gomez]

But I don't think, I don't know how to, how to answer that.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, it's, I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels. May I answer for you?

[Selena Gomez]

Well, let me. Yeah. Because I'm thinking.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, because I feel protective of you because as a woman who is older and you know, I think you're big. Any woman in their 30s, I think is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically you start.

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Protecting it.

[Selena Gomez]

It is. And I think that'll happen more so if I, when I have kids. Yeah. I'll probably put more boundaries up for, you know, the sake of, of the sanity of, you know, what that will look like. I have no idea. But I, I just, I feel like I owe a lot of people in the world any sort of smile, hug, you know, picture. So it's very hard when I don't do it. I promise you it's because I'm, I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late. Like that's usually which, but like if I have to go somewhere. But in, in general, it's, it's, it's Very. It's. It's a lot because I love doing it. I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person. It's so it. It could get crazy in my head.

[Amy Poehler]

It can be a little crazy making.

[Selena Gomez]

And it's. And.

[Amy Poehler]

And Marty said something really sweet, which is like, you know, when. When you guys shoot in New York, you know, and there's whatever, you know, shooting in New York, just like living in New York is this. You're constantly on display, and people will, you know, take photos. And he said, like, Selina really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange, and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy Poehler]

Like, you get very mom about that.

[Selena Gomez]

I get very. Yeah. I actually. That was probably one of the pictures from season two. Someone said a vile word to someone else, and it was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show. But I just looked at him, and I gave him the finger, and there's just one shot of me, and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it, because I looked at him and I was just like, yeah. And he. Like, the other people started laughing, and I. I was like, I don't even care. I'm just so. I can't tolerate that kind of stuff. But then they want that reaction.

[Amy Poehler]

So then I'm like, oh, they're baiting you. But, you know, you're a human. One finger in 33 years, like, there's.

[Selena Gomez]

Probably been a couple more.

[Amy Poehler]

We could probably find them.

[Selena Gomez]

It's fine.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay. So I always ask my guests this. What. What stuff are you listening to right now? Watching reading. That makes you laugh? Because it's not. It's a. It's. There's a. You've had a beautiful couple of years. And also, you know, in the midst of, like, there's a lot of heaviness in the world, everybody is all. We're all in different spaces and places. And you've provided a lot of comedy for people who, like, really want to like. Your show provides that for a lot of people. Who does that for you? Who are you?

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, well, it's more so the experiences I have, I love. I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because, you know, I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on Only Murders, as long as we work, it's. Those are the joyous, you know, making someone laugh or. Or just Having, you know, your partner laugh with you and. And you're watching a movie together. It's.

[Amy Poehler]

What movies made you laugh lately? Lately.

[Selena Gomez]

Friendship.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh, yeah. Tim. Are you Tim Robinson?

[Selena Gomez]

Yes.

[Amy Poehler]

Let's watch. I love Tim Robinson.

[Selena Gomez]

Was so much hilarious and very. It was so funny because a lot of like mixed emotions for people. But I was just like, this is just so funny because how, you know, broad it is.

[Amy Poehler]

Him and Paul Rhetoric, they're great. And also Tim Robinson is like the best kind of insane.

[Selena Gomez]

I mean, it's like, where does he come up most?

[Amy Poehler]

My kids are obsessed with Tim Robinson.

[Selena Gomez]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Amy Poehler]

And have you watched his TV show?

[Selena Gomez]

No. Oh, that's what. Yeah, that's what I need to get on.

[Amy Poehler]

You're gonna love it.

[Selena Gomez]

It's. Cause I. I think you should leave.

[Amy Poehler]

I think it's three seasons.

[Selena Gomez]

Okay.

[Amy Poehler]

It's so cool.

[Selena Gomez]

That's what I'll be doing now. I love it. I love it. But I'm also a big, like, lately we've seen all the horror films, so.

[Amy Poehler]

Okay. You like to be scared.

[Selena Gomez]

I loved Weapons.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

That movie.

[Amy Poehler]

Yes, thank you.

[Selena Gomez]

I know, I know.

[Amy Poehler]

I just don't like to be scared.

[Selena Gomez]

No.

[Amy Poehler]

But I heard it's amazing.

[Selena Gomez]

About 70% of the people in my life, I loathe the fact that I.

[Amy Poehler]

Watched children running in. I was like, that's a. Hell no for me. No way am I going to the movie. Like two tickets, please.

[Selena Gomez]

No way. I know.

[Amy Poehler]

No way. No, I don't.

[Selena Gomez]

Such a weird thing. I do. I do. But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore, but.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah, you want like a intrigue Y. Suspenseful.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. Give me the jump scares every now and then.

[Amy Poehler]

What's your favorite horror movie or one.

[Selena Gomez]

Of your favorites all the time?

[Amy Poehler]

What do you like?

[Selena Gomez]

I would say. I don't know. I really loved. I'm trying to think barbarian.

[Amy Poehler]

Oh yeah.

[Selena Gomez]

The conjuring. The first conjuring was really one that I'll never forget because I was so.

[Amy Poehler]

You don't have to. If you don't watch it, then you never have to forget it.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. So I would say one of those for sure.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. Okay. Well, I think youk should Leave is so great. You'll love it. Highly recommend watch one horror movie and then watch six episodes.

[Selena Gomez]

Cause that's how we do. You know, I do have to watch something nice after that.

[Amy Poehler]

Yeah. To cleanse.

[Selena Gomez]

But no, I'm so. I have to. And you're not the only person so I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at.

[Amy Poehler]

Well, thank you so much for coming. I've been adorable.

[Selena Gomez]

I'm so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having me.

[Amy Poehler]

It's a pleasure and truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way. And can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, future only babe.

[Selena Gomez]

Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the book. Future only.

[Amy Poehler]

Future only babe. Past is the past. All robots, robots, robots. Lip balm.

[Selena Gomez]

Tech all of it.

[Amy Poehler]

Tech all of it. That's all. That's also your next chapter. Tech all of it.

[Selena Gomez]

All of it.

[Amy Poehler]

And then just blank pages. And then you just have your grandmother's recipe. I love it.

[Selena Gomez]

Thank you so much.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you so much.

[Selena Gomez]

It was so great.

[Amy Poehler]

Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're just a total peach. And it was really nice talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I just wanted in the spirit of what Selena does right, she just gives back, and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it. I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with blood cancer United States, and they help people, patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. And September is childhood cancer month. So look, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love, and the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that, among many other things, resources, information. So I don't know, I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform. And in an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you, Selena, for coming, and we'll see you soon. You've been listening to good hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite for the Ringer. Production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spillane, Kaia McMullen and Alaia Zaneris for Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Listen up, everyone. Sharpen those pencils, get out those lunch boxes and stock up on snacks because it's back to school time. And we know we parents know. Finding the balance of snacks you trust and snacks that your kids love is hard. And that's where Welch's fruit snacks come in. They aren't just delicious, they're made with real, whole fruit. And your kids need snacks so they can feed their brains for learning. Find Welch's Fruit Snacks in stores nationwide. Go back to school with Welch's fruit Snacks.