Amy Poehler (3:39)

Get up. What do you say?

Tina Fey (3:50)

Wait.

Amy Poehler (3:50)

Dratch's Zoom is in the dark.

Rachel Dratch (3:53)

Dratch is in a haunted New England attic. It's very Dratch to join and then carry her laptop into every room in her home.

Amy Poehler (4:03)

I'm planting it now.

Rachel Dratch (4:05)

Dratch is putting her headphones on. In a way, there's a 30% chance she strangles herself.

Tina Fey (4:11)

I know.

Amy Poehler (4:12)

This is a very typical Dratch entry. Dratch's headphones look like, you know, when you were trying to untangle Christmas lights.

Rachel Dratch (4:21)

Yeah, I didn't even know this kind of cord could tangle like that.

Tina Fey (4:24)

I'm holding up everything.

Rachel Dratch (4:26)

No, no, this is what Amy wanted.

Amy Poehler (4:29)

Just the sound of untangling headphones is great for like a first podcast and stuff. All right, ready to rock. Maybe I should reintroduce everybody since we're all on mic here. Zarna Garg, Seth Meyers, Fred Armisen, Rachel Drot. Welcome to Good Hang. Thank you for being.

Rachel Dratch (4:45)

It's great to be here. It's been a great hang so far. I mean, everything that's happened before the intro has been great.

Amy Poehler (4:51)

I mean, it feels like it's been real smooth.

Tina Fey (4:56)

That's on me.

Seth Meyers (4:57)

You can hear this microphone. Okay. Does it sound all right? Check, check.

Amy Poehler (5:01)

Can we just go down the line and have everyone clap? We really need you guys to clap.

Tina Fey (5:08)

Oh, I didn't hear Zarna. Okay, okay, okay.

Amy Poehler (5:12)

We really need to get this clap right, guys. Okay. Seth, it's not picking up the screen.

Seth Meyers (5:21)

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Amy Poehler (5:31)

The doorbell ring. Amy, this is the episode. This is it. 100% Zarn. I don't.

Rachel Dratch (5:39)

This is. I think it's very unfair that Dratch is using this time to record an episode of Background Noises with Rachel.

Tina Fey (5:45)

Dratch.

Amy Poehler (5:49)

Dratch. Who is at the door. That's interesting.

Tina Fey (5:51)

I ordered food.

Amy Poehler (5:52)

I ordered food.

Rachel Dratch (5:54)

I haven't heard an old timey doorbell like that.

Tina Fey (5:58)

Wait, wait.

Rachel Dratch (5:59)

One more.

Amy Poehler (5:59)

One more thing, one more thing. The batteries are out of my recorder, so everything went.

Tina Fey (6:10)

My phone.

Amy Poehler (6:15)

I'm getting my voice, but I don't.

Tina Fey (6:19)

Need to have a microphone, right?

Rachel Dratch (6:21)

Dratch, we're probably going to edit you out of this.

Amy Poehler (6:26)

This is the most embarrassing Pisces.

Rachel Dratch (6:31)

Also, Dratch, if you ordered from a second restaurant, you should tell us that.

Amy Poehler (6:35)

I did it.

Rachel Dratch (6:36)

I did this once.

Amy Poehler (6:37)

I didn't do a bang ban. Look it already. It's been a good hang. Okay, I'm ready. Oh, my God. Okay, so my first guess is Tina. Tina Fey. And you all know Tina really well. So I guess my question to you is, what would you want to hear her talk about on this podcast or any podcast? She doesn't do a lot of them.

Seth Meyers (7:21)

Her dad was really good at caricatures.

Amy Poehler (7:25)

Mm.

Seth Meyers (7:26)

So are there any other artistic talents that she got from her dad? Because Tina's good at caricatures too, like drawing. But how do you put that into, like, a question for her? I guess it's more like, did she get that from her dad or like, how much? Like, I remember him being really funny in his own way, too.

Amy Poehler (7:48)

Yeah. She is an intimidating presence, Tina. Like, you know, people are nervous around her. I was nervous around her when I first met her. I wonder if she ever gets asked, like, she's intimidating in the way that a man would be to me, but I wonder if she ever gets asked, like, the girl questions like, what dress are you gonna wear? That's interesting. She deals with at all. Or do people just go to her like, oh, no, this is not a Tina fake question.

Rachel Dratch (8:17)

Do you want me to ask her the dress question?

Amy Poehler (8:19)

Ask her the dress question. Set.

Rachel Dratch (8:21)

I'll ask her.

Amy Poehler (8:23)

And can you do it? Can you whisper it in. In, like, a phone call late at night? Can you say, what dress are you gonna wear?

Rachel Dratch (8:31)

Hey, Zarna. Zarna wants to know.

Amy Poehler (8:34)

I know you guys. Your time is limited, so I won't keep you much longer. But just before we go. You are all doing tons of podcasts, hosting them in them. Like, what. What advice do you have for me as I launch?

Seth Meyers (8:51)

I just know from knowing you that, like, whenever you ask people questions in real life, you really are interested, and you're just on, like, the cliff of, like, giving a hint as to what your opinion is. Just not too much, but just enough so it, like, it's really. It just draws you in. So there's no advice. I'm just like, every time you ask me a question, I'm like, ooh, I think Amy's really asking me a question.

Amy Poehler (9:21)

Is it? That sounds kind of leading the witness a little bit.

Seth Meyers (9:24)

No, no, no, no, no. It's more like, this is going to be a fun conversation. So, for example, this is not a real thing, but you'd be like, so you really like landing in London? Like, that's like, a good airport to land in. And I'm like, oh, this is about to be a conversation about what you don't like about.

Rachel Dratch (9:44)

I also think you're very good at not letting. Sometimes you help turn people away from the negative narrative that they might want to lay out to you. So you're really good friend and that you listen. And I think you can tell when people just need to, like, unburden themselves or something. But I feel like more than maybe anyone else I know you're very good at saying, can I invite you to look at this a different way?

Amy Poehler (10:06)

That maybe offer you some feedback?

Rachel Dratch (10:09)

Not even feedback. It's more like, I just. I. You know, it's not like this is how you should, but, like, you're telling me something and I see how you're seeing it, but, like, can I just ask you to maybe see it this way where you won't be as hard on yourself and you won't be as sad about it? I don't know. I feel like you've always been very good that way.

Amy Poehler (10:27)

Thanks.

Seth Meyers (10:28)

But, you know, you don't. You have, like, a regular voice that you. You're not using right now. Do you want to do your real voice?

Amy Poehler (10:35)

Oh, yeah, I'll do my real voice. Okay. Hey, guys. Oh, it was so hard to do my other voice.

Seth Meyers (10:40)

That's right.

Amy Poehler (10:42)

Yeah.

Rachel Dratch (10:42)

It hurts.

Amy Poehler (10:43)

It hurts. Anyway, so great that you guys are doing this today.

Rachel Dratch (10:47)

I love you. And I have to go.

Amy Poehler (10:48)

I'm so sorry. Go, go. I love you. Thank you for doing this, Seth. I have to go, too. Everyone's gotta go. It means the world that you guys did this. Thank you for letting me, like, start this is like the ground floor. Thanks for being there for me with this and so many other things. I can't wait to see you all in person very soon. I really love you guys. Thanks so much for doing it.

Seth Meyers (11:09)

Love you.

Amy Poehler (11:09)

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Tina Fey (13:23)

All right, we're going to officially start and begin.

Amy Poehler (13:26)

And we need everyone to clap.

Tina Fey (13:28)

Personality on. It's not working.

Amy Poehler (13:32)

We just need a clap. We need you to clap and then count backwards from 10. 10. Tina, thank you for being on the first official podcast that I have ever done for good Hang.

Tina Fey (13:43)

It is my absolute pleasure.

Amy Poehler (13:45)

I really, really appreciate it, buddy. You have done many things for me over the years, including getting most of the jobs that. Helping me get most of the jobs that I have and the career that I have. But this means the most.

Tina Fey (13:56)

This means the most. Okay, great.

Amy Poehler (14:01)

But I am kind of nervous.

Tina Fey (14:03)

Why?

Amy Poehler (14:03)

Well, I mean, I guess it's funny to talk to your friends that you've known for so long and then interview them. I guess we should probably. I guess we should probably picture this as, like. I'm gonna picture that there's a room full of, like. I'm gonna picture, like, there's an audience.

Tina Fey (14:18)

Okay. Because not just Jenna.

Amy Poehler (14:20)

Yeah. Because it's the only way I can get off. No, I'm just kidding.

Tina Fey (14:24)

I have to step on your neck and talk to you. You know what else? Sometimes when I hear things like this, back I go, oh, why was my voice so nasal and annoying? So should we just take a little minute to just. Just. Let's warm up our voices.

Amy Poehler (14:37)

Do you remember the character that Keenan did on SNL where he was a guy saying, just fix it. Remember? He was like a. He was like a New Yorker that just kept going, fix it.

Tina Fey (14:47)

No, I don't remember. I remember him saying, let me hold that baby. Do you remember that character did that air.

Amy Poehler (14:54)

I don't know.

Tina Fey (14:55)

It was a really funny. It was almost like a premise for a short story where he was just like a sweet old man in a train station. And then somebody was. A young host was there with her baby, and he was. She was, like, chatting with him, and then he just goes, let me hold that baby. And it was. Her dilemma was like, I don't actually know this man. Like, should I let him hold my baby? What if he runs away? What if he smashes it like a basketball into the ground? Let me hold that baby.

Amy Poehler (15:18)

Okay, but you don't do a lot of podcasts.

Tina Fey (15:19)

I don't do a lot. I'm very. I'm very selective. You are my podcast work.

Amy Poehler (15:24)

I appreciate that. And you were so good on Bowen and Matt's.

Tina Fey (15:28)

Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

Amy Poehler (15:29)

It was so funny.

Tina Fey (15:30)

Thank you. I. That is one podcast that I do listen to and enjoy that and draft anything Drash says. Those guys are funny. But I felt a Lot of pressure. I went in there, I knowing, like, you have to do that one minute thing at the end. And I, I something I think about a lot and I fall short of it constantly. But a million years ago, was a writer still at snl, and I remember Steve Martin came to do something on the show. He wasn't hosting, but he came the show and he had just, he had just been on Letterman the night before. And I said, oh, hi, how you doing? I said, oh, my gosh, you were so funny. Letterman last night. And he just very matter of factly said, oh, well, you have to kill every time. And that has haunted me every day since. And he's right. And it's like, oh, right. Like if you're a beautiful actress from, I don't know, like Melrose Place. No, just whatever. Like, you're just a beautiful actress. You can go on and be like, I went to the store once. But if you're a comedy person, you have to kill every time.

Amy Poehler (16:33)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (16:34)

Oh, God. Have you ever.

Amy Poehler (16:36)

I mean, I think I know the answer to this, but I feel like I've never got, really gotten a job from an audition ever. Ooh, you feel like you've gone into an audition for something and nailed it and been like, I got it.

Tina Fey (16:49)

No, no, never. Because again, I'm not really so interesting on paper. Like, I remember going to commercial auditions in Chicago and we had friends. At that time, Chicago was a thriving town for commercials. I don't know if it still is, but there were, you know, huge ad agencies were based there and they would shoot things in Chicago. And a lot of people that we worked with at Second City would get a lot of work that would pay for their whole year. You know, I did a little bit of voiceover work. I had a pager, remember? You'd have a PA Be like, guys, my page is blowing up. I might have a voiceover audition downtown. I gotta go.

Amy Poehler (17:26)

There was a casting director in Chicago who shall not be named, who was a commercial casting director. And I had kind of wonky teeth. So it was this kind of thing where we'd go out for this. Remember the term bite and smile?

Tina Fey (17:41)

Yes.

Amy Poehler (17:42)

So you'd pretend to bite into a hamburger and then be like. You'd smile. Yeah, yeah. And it was. It could change your life if you got a.

Tina Fey (17:50)

You could pay for like three years of your low rent.

Amy Poehler (17:53)

Yeah. And I knew right away that there, with my teeth, I was never going to get a bite and smile. Like, there was no way a brand would be associated with my teeth. And this casting director, just to get to know people, would ask them, what's your most embarrassing moment?

Tina Fey (18:10)

Yes.

Amy Poehler (18:10)

Yeah. And I had a full. Like, I got probably nervous in that moment, but I was like, no, thank you. I, like, didn't want to tell her my most embarrassing moment because, by the way, that's insane.

Tina Fey (18:24)

Like, that's, that's a, that's one of the, that's a tiny micro version of when we try to explain the 90s to younger people of like, how so many things, you're like, oh, that lady would literally be fired and tried in front of a jury for asking you that in the workplace. I had a bite and smile type thing where it was a McDonald's audition and everything always was like, okay, so take, you know, two trains and a thing and get way out to wherever this audition is. And then you get there and you. And it was for some new kind of happy or drive through meal, whatever. And I went all the way to the thing and I got there and I realized as we were going into the session, like, oh, this, this commercial is for a person pulling into a drive through. And I have this, you know, SC scar on the left side of my face that's way faded now, but it was much more prominent then. I was like, similar to the teeth thing. I was like, guess who's not gonna book this? Pulling up to the drive through with my short hair with the perm on top and a big scar. And. And so I just remember in the thing, just being up, like pulling into the, in the chair, like scooting like I'm in the drive through, being like, I'll have the fish fillet meal and my scar will have an orange soda. And then just leaving.

Amy Poehler (19:32)

You were like, you're not gonna reject me.

Tina Fey (19:34)

I'm gonna reject you, reject you. It's like, what are we doing here? I traveled 45 minutes each way.

Amy Poehler (19:39)

I mean, we talk about work a lot in. When we're together. I think we work together really well. What is your relationship to work and has it changed?

Tina Fey (19:47)

I. I think it has changed. I am a work based person. Like, that's. If I were an animal, I would be like a carriage horse, I think. You know, just like, you know, they say like, oh, no, these. Some are like some kinds of dogs. Like, no, they want to work or they'll go insane. So I am, I am that kind of animal, I think. But I also, I have just, just recently, really recently found that I have. Because I went through such a stretch for so many decades where it Was like, you go to work for 12 to 13 hours and then you come home and you, you know, you try to be with your family till they go to sleep, and then you're like, then you got to do your homework. And I've only in the last year or two had windows of time where, like, I don't have homework tonight. I can just be a person in this world and maybe, like, watch a program.

Amy Poehler (20:39)

Do you feel like you can actually enjoy it in that moment?

Tina Fey (20:42)

I can. Although it's still. You know, I think any other writer would say this too, that the only. The closest I can get to joy and peace is like, the 36 hours after I've turned something in. Because that's the only time when you're like, I did it. I really. I don't have any homework, but I'm still a very good, good carriage horse because I did my work.

Amy Poehler (21:04)

Yes.

Tina Fey (21:05)

And then after like 36 hours, it creeps back in of like, okay, I'm gonna get notes back. Or I'm.

Amy Poehler (21:10)

I should go.

Tina Fey (21:11)

Skip ahead to the next thing I will say, though I did go back to work this fall on a set for the first time in a long time. And it was actually. And I. And I worked hard to build it to be the. A really healthy set and really, like, humane hours. And it was nice to be among other humans and making something. I also was extremely purposeful about bringing together people who I believed were good people who would not make any trouble for me.

Amy Poehler (21:47)

Yes.

Tina Fey (21:48)

And it really made a difference.

Amy Poehler (21:51)

I feel like that's the. That's success.

Tina Fey (21:54)

Right.

Amy Poehler (21:55)

That's a luxury is getting to be. To realize I only, if I can, wanna work with people who I know will not think that chaos is how to be creative.

Tina Fey (22:06)

It's how to be creative. And, you know, I think as so many TikTok stories, we won't go into which ones, but people are, like, hearing about movie sets and being like, that's crazy what's happening there. I was like, that's not that crazy. Like, that's pretty. Like, movies are about just people going crazy and acting out and then one or two people trying to harvest series of photographs of those people that can be assembled into a film. But it's mostly poorly behaved, crazy people being indulged by various parties.

Amy Poehler (22:38)

And we have seen and worked at places and this is no big scoop. Like SNL is one of them, where people come in with their system of how they like to work and they're like people when they're nervous or insecure, are Often not at their best. And the way they act is wild because they're nervous or insecure.

Tina Fey (22:58)

People get insecurity, makes people behave wildly. I even have learned to realize that we talk about relationship to work. That I have now learned that I get very, very grouchy and nervous when something has to be written because it is like having a stomach flu. And you're like. It's the sick you feel before. You either eject it one way or the other, and it just really gotta come out one end grouchy until it comes out. And I can at least see that pattern. But doesn't prevent it from happening. But I'm like, okay, here's what's happening.

Amy Poehler (23:34)

I feel that way about when I'm in a situation where I don't feel like there's a strong leader. Like where I'm being directed by someone who doesn't quite know what they're doing. Or there's. But there's no one telling us what to do. Like, there's no one in control. I have that grouchiness where I feel like I'm going to. I'm either gonna have to take over here or I'm gonna have to dis. Like, you know, check out.

Tina Fey (23:58)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (23:59)

And I've been in a couple projects where, like, week one, I'm like, oh, no. Like, we don't have a captain. Like, this ship is going down and you can see months ahead.

Tina Fey (24:07)

Yep.

Amy Poehler (24:08)

How do you. Yeah, I don't. You know, how do you. You just kind of. I guess you just watch funny videos in your trailer.

Tina Fey (24:13)

Yeah. I think the one way is. Yeah. You shut down, and the other way.

Amy Poehler (24:17)

Is you try to clumsily take over and make people uncomfortable.

Tina Fey (24:21)

Yeah. Those are the only two. Those are the only two options. They really are.

Amy Poehler (24:26)

I know, but, like, hold on. I'm gonna take a lip balm break. Do it up, because I need. My lips are dry.

Tina Fey (24:33)

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Amy Poehler (24:40)

I mean, I guess this is friendship. Is. Is. Is letting your friend.

Tina Fey (24:45)

I know about this because I have a middle schooler.

Amy Poehler (24:47)

I love laneige. I mean, the question is, like, how well do you have to know someone to let. I mean, I'm not their finger.

Tina Fey (24:55)

I'm not trying to do that. I just.

Amy Poehler (24:56)

Okay, you don't want to.

Tina Fey (24:57)

I don't want to.

Amy Poehler (24:58)

Interesting. Well, I'll think about that all day.

Tina Fey (25:02)

I'm afraid I will wipe off what little colors.

Amy Poehler (25:04)

But you're Not a germaphobe.

Tina Fey (25:06)

I'm not a germaphobe. And I think it's a real unattractive quality in someone else when they're like a germaphobe.

Amy Poehler (25:12)

Especially in a man.

Tina Fey (25:13)

In a man. It is such a disgusting deal breaker.

Amy Poehler (25:17)

Like a man who's worried about, like, I don't shake hands. It's like, you're a man.

Tina Fey (25:21)

Shake hands and then go wash your hands, you freak.

Amy Poehler (25:24)

Yeah, you're the one with poop on your hands. Like, who said anything about poop on their hands until you did? I don't know. I. But there's. We know a couple people that are germaphobes jobs. We have to watch out. That's the thing we have to watch out for in our 50s is the thing that was like our cute eccentricity becomes our genuine mental. Mental illness. Yeah, the thing that's like, you know how they don't like to drive?

Tina Fey (25:51)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (25:51)

Well. Well, I was.

Tina Fey (25:52)

I got. My license had expired, and during the pandemic, you were like, you. It was before the pandemic, you were like, you got to get your license back to me. You're like, you can't be one of those older ladies that doesn't drive. And I'm like, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Amy Poehler (26:07)

I do feel I love to drive you. You.

Tina Fey (26:09)

I do. You do.

Amy Poehler (26:10)

You're good at driving, and I love it. And your.

Tina Fey (26:12)

The name of your car is named Karen because she's a white Subaru.

Amy Poehler (26:19)

And I said this before, which is I feel like Amy came this close to being a Karen.

Tina Fey (26:25)

Yes, like that. Yeah. Because as you've said, like, a lot of the actual worst Karen's were in fact named Amy.

Amy Poehler (26:31)

In real life, the woman that called, the guy that was bird watching was named Amy. At the same time, Amy Coney Barrett was up and running, or getting up and running. There was a lot going on with Amy's. We were. We missed it by an inch.

Tina Fey (26:42)

Yeah. It's a. It's a real.

Amy Poehler (26:45)

Yeah, but is there anything you feel like you see me doing that you should. Like I should be careful about.

Tina Fey (26:52)

Warn you about. That's a good question.

Amy Poehler (26:54)

I think that is what women do for each other is they say like, hey, you know, like, you know the pills that you take for your. For flying, you shouldn't take them at.

Tina Fey (27:03)

When you're not flying.

Amy Poehler (27:04)

When you're not flying.

Tina Fey (27:06)

Oh, my chair made a fart sound. That wasn't me. No, I feel like I know what I. What you should tell me about, which is the. Especially coming out of the pandemic, my mumbling talking.

Amy Poehler (27:20)

Yeah, you're mumbling.

Tina Fey (27:22)

And sometimes. And when I'm thinking really fast, like it really is even I'm like, wow, what's going on there? Like, I have to work to fully form my words.

Amy Poehler (27:31)

What do you think is going on there?

Tina Fey (27:33)

I think I stayed home a lot in the pandemic and muttered to myself and I hope that's it and it's not a precursor to some kind of mental decline.

Amy Poehler (27:41)

It was like her muttering started when.

Tina Fey (27:43)

She was 53 and then she became one of the Crumb brothers from the movie Crumb. Everyone pause the podcast. Go watch Crumb real quick. But I'm trying to think if there. I. I don't.

Amy Poehler (27:56)

Well, I know that I like I play this game with my friends. This would be a fun game to play together, which is like, what is the version of you that's like your biggest fear you will turn into.

Tina Fey (28:05)

I know mine exactly.

Amy Poehler (28:05)

Okay, what is it?

Tina Fey (28:08)

How do I say this without saying it? I want to write it down and show it to you. And you can, by the way, I.

Amy Poehler (28:15)

Have my computer here, you know, because that's what people do with podcasts as they have their computer.

Tina Fey (28:19)

Cuz you're playing Candy Crush the whole time and you have one window open.

Amy Poehler (28:23)

With I wish we could do the whole podcast where I say really like the wrong information about everything and then I pretend to look it up and I verify it in front of you. Oh, also, I wish I was just smoking weed the whole time. What if I just start lit up a joint. Okay, okay.

Tina Fey (28:43)

Now how do I articulate that? I would say there's a certain type of strident older showbiz.

Amy Poehler (28:53)

Yes.

Tina Fey (28:54)

That's like, listen to me, honey, I don't give a. And I'm like, oh God, but that's so not you.

Amy Poehler (29:00)

You're a mutterer.

Tina Fey (29:01)

I'm a mutterer. So it's not. But there's also something about the look of it. That's as often as I say, like, I'm gonna cut my hair. And my friend Guy who's been doing my hair for 30 years, he's like, no, no, you may not.

Amy Poehler (29:13)

Well, you have the best hair in the business. People should know this.

Tina Fey (29:17)

This is grandma.

Amy Poehler (29:19)

This is all Tina's hair.

Tina Fey (29:21)

This is all my hair. Thank you. And much like skinny people who are mad about Ozempic in the. In the early 2000s when all these started wearing tracks, I was like, what? You could just have what I have. This is all I have.

Amy Poehler (29:35)

It is. It is the most incredible real hair.

Tina Fey (29:37)

Thank you so much. We just did this. I just did this show called the Four Seasons that's coming out in May, and there's a scene. It's based on this old movie with Alan Alda and Carol Burnett. And there's a scene in the old movie where Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett is very angrily brushing her short hair, which is so. It's like the most 1981 thing ever. Like, first of all, we know, like, you don't vigorously brush short hair, it's gonna look terrible. But she's in the scene, she's fighting and she's brushing her hair. And I put the. That. Just a little bit of that in the. In the show. I just poked myself in the eye and. And I kept saying, Colman Domingo was directing that episode. And I kept saying, like, Coleman, I'll tell you what, a lot of these movie stars, they can act better than me, but they can't brush their hair on camera because they're all wearing wigs, and they're all wearing. And so I, like. I was like, insisted in the edit that couple shots of me brushing my hair stayed in. And then I went to the mix, and I was like, oh, did you turn down the. The sound. Sound of my hairbrushing. Turn it back up.

Amy Poehler (30:37)

And that's. That's what producing.

Tina Fey (30:39)

That's all. That's what producing is. It's insanity and narcissism, and it's like.

Amy Poehler (30:44)

Turn up my hair.

Tina Fey (30:45)

Turn up the sound of the brush going through my hair.

Amy Poehler (30:47)

And people go, we don't need it. And you go, we do need it.

Tina Fey (30:49)

We do need it.

Amy Poehler (30:50)

But you have incredible hair. I feel like you should have a hair campaign. And also, I always am pushing you to have a glasses line. Why do you not have a glass?

Tina Fey (31:00)

I don't have a glasses line because.

Amy Poehler (31:01)

I have to say, you hate money.

Tina Fey (31:04)

I do kind of hate money. I'm. As we know, I'm terrible. I'm terrible with money. Only in that I'm like, you are not terrible. No, I'm not terrible. I don't waste money, but I don't get excited about money. If, like, if I. If I'm safe and my. I have enough money to live, I. I have a problem with rich people having a side hustle.

Amy Poehler (31:23)

Yeah. You mean like a podcast or something?

Tina Fey (31:25)

No, that's. As you're doing work. I'm saying if you. If you sold, like, where would my line be for you? Where would I draw the Line.

Amy Poehler (31:33)

Yeah, I know what you mean. Like, if I had a. If I had a.

Tina Fey (31:37)

If you.

Amy Poehler (31:38)

Yeah, you know, if you already have.

Tina Fey (31:40)

Like, $200 million and you're like, also, I need you to.

Amy Poehler (31:44)

But, Tina, that is. This is where you have to learn from Gen Z. I'm sorry. And we have to.

Tina Fey (31:49)

They don't care. They don't. They don't.

Amy Poehler (31:51)

They don't judge it. Well, get. You should stop. Because this is the thing that you have to have a million. You have to have glasses.

Tina Fey (31:59)

Yeah. Well, I have my line of children's medications.

Amy Poehler (32:03)

I told you. That's so treacherous.

Tina Fey (32:05)

No, guys. By the way, one time, a million years ago, I remember seeing. And I won't name this actress, but someone could figure it out. I remember seeing an 80s actress promoting her line of homeopathic children's medications. I was like, why on this earth would I trust an actress.

Amy Poehler (32:23)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (32:23)

For pediatric medications.

Amy Poehler (32:28)

To give to my child.

Tina Fey (32:29)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (32:30)

You're saying you worry about turning into a woman as we get older. As you get older. That is like a strident, opinionated, here's how it works, babe.

Tina Fey (32:42)

Right.

Amy Poehler (32:42)

Kind of person.

Tina Fey (32:43)

Yeah. And just fighting everybody.

Amy Poehler (32:45)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (32:46)

And just.

Amy Poehler (32:48)

Because I just think. I just think as an exercise, it's fun to think about our personalities. Like, what? The thing that, like, got us here, that are here sitting in front. Like, you and I are lucky enough to have a lot of years behind us, hopefully more years in front of us in working, getting to try all this different stuff. We're at a point in our lives where we get to. We're like, in this juicy middle where we have either parents who have passed away or aging parents. We have kids who are, like, coming into their own. We're right in the middle of life. Let's be honest. We're more two thirds than middle, but we like to say we're middle. Although I'm gonna live to 100 and God forbid. Wait, you don't want to live to a hundred?

Tina Fey (33:30)

No. Unless there's some amazing.

Amy Poehler (33:33)

There will be.

Tina Fey (33:34)

Okay.

Amy Poehler (33:35)

We'll see, like, new lungs. There'll be a whole thing.

Tina Fey (33:39)

Money only can fix your 80s and 90s. So much.

Amy Poehler (33:42)

That is the thing. We've traveled on. We've. We've hung around a lot of wealthy older people, and the. The thing that they cannot get over is that they're gonna die.

Tina Fey (33:51)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (33:52)

Like, that's the thing.

Tina Fey (33:52)

But who's that? But who's your guy? Who do I call? Yeah.

Amy Poehler (33:55)

Yeah. And it's like, no one. You call God.

Tina Fey (33:58)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (33:58)

You call him on the phone and say, yeah, but.

Tina Fey (34:00)

Sorry, I.

Amy Poehler (34:01)

And he says, welcome to hell. And God says, welcome to hell. Okay, but do you want to talk about four seasons for a second, by the way? Because it is coming out, and Colman Domingo is a prince on this earth.

Tina Fey (34:16)

An angel on this earth.

Amy Poehler (34:18)

God.

Tina Fey (34:19)

So talented, so beautiful. Gorgeous inside and out. Like a beautiful human being. Yes. So we're doing this show, the Four Seasons, on Netflix. I'm very excited about it. It is based on this 1981 movie that was written and directed by Alan Alda, another angel on this earth.

Amy Poehler (34:36)

Can I tell people that I said hello to Alan Alda at your house? Recently, Alan Alda came to my house. That was pretty cool.

Tina Fey (34:42)

Alan and Darlene Alda. It was a real lovely wife. Momentous occurrence.

Amy Poehler (34:47)

I mean, Alan Alda was huge in our lives.

Tina Fey (34:50)

He remains huge. Yeah. And he. He's such a big deal. Like, you can't even imagine what a giant. Do you remember the Super Emmy?

Amy Poehler (34:57)

No.

Tina Fey (34:58)

One year. One year they gave out a super Emmy. So it was like you was called a super super. It was called a super Emmy, and he's the only person that ever got it because it was like, they won, like, best show, best directing, best screen script, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the super Emmy goes to Alan Alda for Matt. And everyone was like, okay, that's enough of the super Emmy.

Amy Poehler (35:17)

They only did it once.

Tina Fey (35:18)

I think they only did it once.

Amy Poehler (35:19)

And is it. Was it bigger than a regular.

Tina Fey (35:21)

You have to have. You should call. He should have him on the podcast.

Amy Poehler (35:24)

He has a great podcast.

Tina Fey (35:25)

He. I've listened to his podcast. It's one of the few that have penetrated my fortress. I would love to talk about it because it was a truly joyous experience, top to bottom. Like, one of the things I'm most proud about of this whole thing was that so many people, actors and crew came up to me were like, this is the most pleasant job we've ever had. And it was, like I said, it was built as intentionally as possible to be all good souls. And it's Coleman, a beautiful Italian actor named Marco Calvani, Steve Carell, Will Forte, Carrie Kenny Silver, and Erica Henningsen. And it's basically that little ensemble is. Ensemble is pretty much, that's it. Very few day players, very few. Like, no real. Very few guest stars. And so it was a really cozy environment, and it's a very, very gentle program that I am kind of just can't wait to. To see if people are interested in a gentle. A good hang. It hopefully is The TV equivalent of a good hang. Because it's just, you know, there's some story, but there's no zombies, there's no mysteries.

Amy Poehler (36:34)

Great. That's exactly. Truly what we're trying to do here. Because I can. My nervous system. Two things. My nervous system cannot take it compared to the rest of the world.

Tina Fey (36:45)

Yes.

Amy Poehler (36:46)

And also I feel like there's this weird sometimes. I mean, you are the exact. You're the example of not doing this. I think you like. Everything you make is hard jokes and hard comedy and always really, really funny. But a lot of times women specifically are asked to, like, be, like, nurturing caretakers in spaces. Like, be teachers. And when we were thinking about this podcast, it was like, all the guys get to just goof around and have fun. And it'd be straight comedy escapism. And our stuff has to be. I don't know about menopause, which also is important.

Tina Fey (37:27)

Yeah. This is. I mean, for the. For the people who want 100 jokes per minute, this is a departure. These characters are funny and. But it's all completely human scale.

Amy Poehler (37:38)

Ooh, I love that.

Tina Fey (37:39)

Again, we shall see. And I. I feel like it is just a little science experiment where people might be like, no, but TV doesn't really.

Amy Poehler (37:46)

Like, there's no TV anymore. Right. It's all just like articles about tv. Like, TV itself is listicles.

Tina Fey (37:51)

It's AI generated listicles.

Amy Poehler (37:54)

It's tick tock about TV shows that aren't on. So what is the thing that you do? Where do you go to escape? What is like the video that you watch, the person that you watch? What is making you laugh?

Tina Fey (38:05)

I have a couple things that I like to watch. One of the things I like to watch is. And again, I'm gonna keep referencing TikTok. I am not a public account. You will. Don't find me, don't look for me. Don't.

Amy Poehler (38:15)

If anyone's pretending to be you. They're fake.

Tina Fey (38:17)

It's fake. Yeah, that. But I like to watch videos of people either doing or learning or trying to teach Beyonce's homecoming dance break. So either someone who can do it or I love it when it's a person who. You don't expect them to be able to do it. And then they do it like they're holding.

Amy Poehler (38:37)

Holding like a laundry basket.

Tina Fey (38:38)

Yeah. So they're just like, yeah, they're a mom in their. In their laundry room. And then they do it. I have tried to watch tutorials to try to do. I'm not a great dancer and I. I know that if I was given from now to the end of my life, I could not learn the first 16 counts of that dance. Yeah. But I love watching people do it. And then the other day, I was watching a. A whole bunch of people doing it. And it took me one guy was like a really beautiful ripped guy in, like, shorts, no shirt, doing it. And I was like, oh, this is a new layer of this. And then the algorithm was like, oh, you. You watch that. So you just want to see videos that are just like, rugby build. And it was just like, guys with a rugby build. And I was like, I think I do want to watch this.

Amy Poehler (39:26)

Yeah. Paul Mescal started that. Like, he's the ultimate famous rugby build. And then. Have you seen in rugby where they have to pick each other up with their underwear?

Tina Fey (39:39)

No.

Amy Poehler (39:40)

So in rugby, there's a move where they. The men to get the other one taller. You know, like to basically. It's almost like if you're. If you're hoisting somebody up.

Tina Fey (39:52)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (39:53)

They grab basically their shorts and underwear.

Tina Fey (39:56)

So weird.

Amy Poehler (39:56)

And then they. That's how they get it up. And there's videos. And I'm not saying that my algorithm has necessarily taking up on this, but I have seen them enough to now I do get them where men. Where men grab each other by the waist. It's very feminine. It's actually like it almost.

Tina Fey (40:14)

Yes.

Amy Poehler (40:14)

It looks like a lift.

Tina Fey (40:15)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (40:17)

But they grab each other and lift each other up, and then their penis, their dicks are right in the line of their face. But it's totally fine.

Tina Fey (40:29)

I mean, it's fine either way.

Amy Poehler (40:30)

Of course it is. I just mean it. Everyone's happy. There's no. Everyone's doing exactly what they want to do.

Tina Fey (40:36)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (40:37)

And it's in. These are in slow motion.

Tina Fey (40:39)

Yes. Yeah, I wasn't mad about that. That change in my algorithm and. Okay, so another thing that I really do. The only other television program that truly brings me joy is my weekend Local News in the Morning.

Amy Poehler (40:57)

Wow.

Tina Fey (40:57)

I love. And by the way, they know this, and they're probably like, stop talking about us. It's getting weird. I love NBC 4 Pat Battle, Gus Rosendale. It is, I find, to be the most truly informative, nice program on the whole week. Here's what you get, Amy. You get your news. You get your national news briefly. You get your local news. Mostly local. Right. Okay. Then you get Produce Pete.

Amy Poehler (41:25)

Oh, I love Produce Pete.

Tina Fey (41:26)

Nice old Italian man comes out, tells you what's in season, what to make with it. Incredible. Then it used to be more frequently. Before the pandemic. Before the pandemic, he used to be in person. Bill's books. Nice gentleman named Bill come, tells you what he read, what he liked about it, what he recommends that you read. Before the pandemic. They also then used to. To sometimes be like, here are some animals that are up for adoption. I feel like that's gone away. But that's it. And then the weather and the traffic and. And Pat Battle and Gus. I believe they're friends. They have a wonderful rapport.

Amy Poehler (42:02)

You don't know what their deal is.

Tina Fey (42:03)

I mean, I don't think they're more than friends, if that's what you're implying.

Amy Poehler (42:06)

I would never.

Tina Fey (42:06)

But I feel like they. They like being co workers.

Amy Poehler (42:09)

What a great.

Tina Fey (42:09)

Have I. Pat Battle? Have I. Listen, one time, it was like a hurricane or something, a blizzard. Pat Battle went out on the street in her hometown. She went out where she lives in New Jersey, and she was helping people push their cars.

Amy Poehler (42:24)

That's cool.

Tina Fey (42:26)

That look. That is what America should be. Okay? It's a. It's Pat, it's Gus, it's produce. Pete, It's Bill's books. We help our neighbors. That's the America I want to live in.

Amy Poehler (42:41)

If you've got Battle in the last.

Tina Fey (42:42)

Name, you gotta listen. Have I invited Pat battle to events 100%, like, too many times. Does she show up? Yes, we have a good time. Great.

Amy Poehler (42:52)

So you've met Pat Battle.

Tina Fey (42:53)

I've met Pat Battle.

Amy Poehler (42:53)

And. And what was that? Like, did sparks fly?

Tina Fey (42:56)

I mean, she was like. Thought it was pretty funny that I keep bothering her and I'm obsessed with her. But Pat Battle's in an episode of 30 Rock.

Amy Poehler (43:06)

Oh, really? Ask yourself.

Tina Fey (43:08)

Yeah, we did one episode where Liz Lemon gets invited to, like, a Women in media luncheon. And then, of course, like, the gag is that they can't. They have a big screen and they can't figure out to get it to work. And then all women are all, like, turn it on and off again. And. But it's like. It was like, hot Battle. Gayle King. A couple other news ladies, and Andrea Martin played, like, the lady who was running it, and she. Her character has a breakdown in the middle of the thing, and she's talking about how her husband left her, and she's like. Like, I just remember she had some line where she was like, I put it. My Andrea Martin impression. Get ready. Okay. I put a sweater on a body pillow, and I took it for a canoe ride. Like, everyone. All the women lose Their minds at the Women in Media luncheon.

Amy Poehler (43:53)

Tina, that makes total sense to me. That. That is your, like, fun.

Tina Fey (43:56)

That makes me feel nice. And I'm also. I'm drinking coffee. I'm with Jeff. It's the morning.

Amy Poehler (44:00)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (44:01)

Everything hasn't gone to yet. And then weekends. All the weekend plans are all possible.

Amy Poehler (44:06)

But the news. But that's new. But the news.

Tina Fey (44:08)

Local, Listen. It's local. It is. It's local.

Amy Poehler (44:10)

But even the locals.

Tina Fey (44:11)

Oh, everything's on fire. Yeah. But then it's also, like, there's a food festival on City Island. Produce.

Amy Poehler (44:18)

Pete's like, check out these artichokes.

Tina Fey (44:20)

He's like, betty's gonna make this squash pie called mutagoots.

Amy Poehler (44:27)

Speaking of Betty, people should know that that's what I call you. That's my nickname for you.

Tina Fey (44:31)

You called me that in front of Colin Jost the other day, and he seemed very delighted. He.

Amy Poehler (44:36)

I can't believe he didn't know that.

Tina Fey (44:38)

Well, we're.

Amy Poehler (44:39)

Right now.

Tina Fey (44:39)

He's not thinking about us.

Amy Poehler (44:40)

No. He doesn't know what we call each other. Jost who? Talk about. Talk about an ark. Jost. When we met Jost, did you say.

Tina Fey (44:49)

A narc or an arc?

Amy Poehler (44:51)

An arc.

Tina Fey (44:51)

Okay.

Amy Poehler (44:52)

Talk about a narc.

Tina Fey (44:53)

What a narc.

Amy Poehler (44:54)

I was smoking weed and Jost called the police, and I was like, fucking narcissist. No. Talk about having an ark baby. Jost, as we used to call him, we met him. We went up to Harvard. The Harvard Lampoon.

Tina Fey (45:08)

Oh. See, that's where we met him.

Amy Poehler (45:10)

That's, I think, where I met him.

Tina Fey (45:11)

Did you meet him? I have a terrible memory. I remember I hated every minute being at the Harvard Lampoon.

Amy Poehler (45:16)

Me, too.

Tina Fey (45:17)

What a bunch of dorks.

Amy Poehler (45:18)

Maybe we should just tell the story. So the Harvard Lampoon invites you up and they kind of roast you.

Tina Fey (45:25)

They invite you to come up, and then you go there and then a bunch of, like, snively little worms.

Amy Poehler (45:32)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (45:32)

Like, by the way, like, try to roast you. And they're not good at it.

Amy Poehler (45:36)

No, they're not good at it. But you and I, of many times over the years, many times have had this moment where we've turned to each other and loved or hated something at the same time. And this was definitely example where we both were like, we're not. We don't like this. And they make you go through this kind of initiation. And, I mean, I. I wasn't in a sorority in college.

Tina Fey (45:55)

No, me neither.

Amy Poehler (45:56)

And I don't get it, so. But they made you Go through a whole thing, and then they brought us into a big, giant room and they kind of roasted us. And we had. We had. I think we had a lot of fun in how much we, like, did not engage and didn't like it. And. But. But baby Jost was there.

Tina Fey (46:15)

He was the beep. Okay.

Amy Poehler (46:17)

I don't remember him. We didn't get a Jost roast.

Tina Fey (46:19)

But no, he was.

Amy Poehler (46:20)

He was always. But he went on to.

Tina Fey (46:23)

I don't remember any of the actual people that roasted us.

Amy Poehler (46:26)

I remember the face of one guy.

Tina Fey (46:28)

And does he. Has he gone on to work in comedy?

Amy Poehler (46:30)

I don't believe he has.

Tina Fey (46:31)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (46:32)

I. Since then. You know why? Because I. You and I both have, like, blue collar.

Tina Fey (46:38)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (46:39)

I guess. Rage. What would you call it, like. Or at worst, chip on her shoulder.

Tina Fey (46:45)

At best. You're not better than me.

Amy Poehler (46:48)

I remember having two more Harvard experiences, and both involved, what I felt like, sniveling guys roasting me. Because one was the Hasty Pudding, where you really do kind of, you know, what you're getting into, and they kind of come out and roast you.

Tina Fey (47:10)

Yeah. Why isn't everyone just, like, no, nerds. Thanks. No, thanks. Why does anyone go, I don't know.

Amy Poehler (47:16)

But I really did my homework on that one. And I had really good jokes that I was proud of, and I really crushed them. And then I was asked to give, like, one of those speeches at Harvard and one of the kids. I mean, I've gotten this more than once. And I hope this isn't awkward for you. For me to say it in front of you, but definitely, like, people like to say, like, you're, you know, you're the poor man's Tina Fey. I know. And so. But this kid said it before, right before I went up, so I gave him the finger, which everyone was shocked about. And I don't know if it was the right. I mean. I mean, I did it, I guess, but I go, fuck you. And again, I was like, you're on a dais, Amy. Like, this is a.

Tina Fey (47:58)

This is.

Amy Poehler (47:59)

But then fuck Harvard.

Tina Fey (48:00)

Yeah, fuck Harvard.

Amy Poehler (48:01)

Fuck Harvard.

Tina Fey (48:02)

Yeah.

Amy Poehler (48:02)

I mean, those fucking assholes. But thank you for inviting me. It was a real honor.

Tina Fey (48:10)

Don't lose my number forever. Go fuck yourselves.

Amy Poehler (48:12)

It definitely is the kind of thing where, like, people go to award shows and they get mad that they're getting the award. It's like, if you really. If you really don't like it, don't go. Don't go. But I did go and was happy to give a speech. Okay. Lastly. Yeah, just to kind of get started on this podcast. I had on Zoom, I had Dratch, Seth and Fred and Zarna, and they all got on a Zoom. And I said, I'm interviewing Tina. What should I ask her?

Tina Fey (48:36)

Oh, my gosh.

Amy Poehler (48:36)

And it was great because everyone was very excited. And of course, I just want you to know the most hilarious thing was Dratch could not get her laptop to turn on or her headphones to work. And then while we were recording, the doorbell rang, and her dog's dog started barking because she had ordered food. So there wasn't much content that we can use.

Tina Fey (48:56)

So were there questions for them?

Amy Poehler (48:57)

But the one question. There were a couple questions, which is, what makes you laugh? We went into that.

Tina Fey (49:01)

What makes me laugh? We didn't really get into that. We watched for comfort. The thing that made me laugh the hardest, most recently, was this clip of Bobby Moynihan from. They did these really great SNL documentaries, and it was a documentary about auditioning for snl. And it was people. And you were in it. You were great in it. And they talk to people about the process of auditioning, and then they show them their audition back. And people get emotional. People, you know, they've never seen it or like, oh, my gosh, this is from 50 years ago, or whatever. And they showed. Made Bobby watch his audition back, and he's doing a character that's in his audition that's just beyond inappropriate. And he's watching it, and he's watching it, and he goes, oh, no. And then he just goes, oh, Bobby. And the way he says, oh, Bobby, the way he calls himself by name is so gentle. And so it made me laugh so hard. And I think it should be the TikTok sound that people play. Like, when you have to. You have to see a piece of comedy that you're like, okay, we did. We realize now that that's not okay. You just show the content and just hear the voice of Bobby going, oh, Bobby. And that's how you apologize for problematic content in the past. You just put the oh, Bobby sound over it, and it means, I see it. I'm sorry. Let's all move forward.

Amy Poehler (50:20)

I know better now.

Tina Fey (50:21)

I know better now.

Amy Poehler (50:22)

I do better now.

Tina Fey (50:23)

I'm an ally who makes mistakes.

Amy Poehler (50:25)

Oh, Bobby.

Tina Fey (50:25)

Oh, Bobby. Oh, Bobby. That really made me laugh. I couldn't stop watching it.

Amy Poehler (50:30)

You can make that. Get that audio. You should trademark that audio and get. Make merch. And then the other thing that Zarna had, Zarna was like, you never get asked. Tina never gets asked Girly questions, which is so funny. I mean, do you feel like you don't get asked girly questions? I know. Like. Like.

Tina Fey (50:47)

Like, what's my skin care routine?

Amy Poehler (50:49)

Yeah.

Tina Fey (50:50)

Nothing. I mean, do nothing. Nothing, Nothing. And then expensive lasers.

Amy Poehler (50:56)

Fred wanted to know. Fred's like, oh, also, by the way, you know, Fred does a great Tina impression. No. You've never seen it?

Tina Fey (51:05)

No, I've never seen it.

Amy Poehler (51:07)

What do you mean? I feel like he's done it to you. He does a thing where he's like a mum. He mumbles. But when he comes up, the thing about Fred Armisen, his impressions are never, like. They never make you feel bad.

Tina Fey (51:17)

Yes.

Amy Poehler (51:18)

At least in my experience. Like, they just feel like they're kind, which is hard to do. But he comes up with, like, a script. You've seen this? I maybe.

Tina Fey (51:27)

I don't know.

Amy Poehler (51:28)

The physicality. It's more physicality than anything else where he comes up with a script. He goes, hey, buddy, just wanted, like. And you're giving a thought with the script, holding the script to your body, and you can't hear what you're saying.

Tina Fey (51:44)

Like, what percentage Tina Belcher am I?

Amy Poehler (51:47)

Well, remember Shy Ronnie, Andy Sandberg's character on that? Maybe there's a little shy Ronnie. Anyway, Fred wanted to know. Last question. Maybe we can talk about this before you go. Is your dad, like, a really good artist, really good at caricatures? Do you have any of that artistic ability?

Tina Fey (52:04)

I wish I had more. I think both my daughters have it. I. I do in the summer. I go to Fire island in the summer, and I like to paint portraits in my free time. And they are terrible. And they're like. They're getting slightly better, but not. Not at a rate that would impress. Like, they. They're terrible. But I look, because it's. The only thing I want to paint is to try. I want to try to capture people's faces, people like, that I love. And I should take some classes because, of course, the problem is I don't draw the head right. And then they come out. Like, sometimes I kind of like how wonky they come out. But no, of the four people in my immediate family, I am the least talented at art. My daughters are very talented. Jeff is very. Can draw and paint. But can I just quickly, my favorite. The story of when my dad, who loved coming up to visit snl, it was like, Fred's one of his first few shows, and my dad was coming up and visiting, and he was, like, standing in 8h while we were getting ready to rehearse update at that, like, 5:00 time. And Fred was in a costume for some other sketch. He was in a tuxedo and my dad had not met him yet. And he just came up to my dad and was in a tuxedo and just came up to my dad in character, just going, this is rainbow room. I look for rainbow room. See, I can't tell the story because I can't. I shouldn't be doing this accent. But Fred, I guess, can do it.

Amy Poehler (53:32)

We'll get a robot to do it.

Tina Fey (53:33)

Get a robot to do it. But it was so funny.

Amy Poehler (53:35)

And your dad was like, oh, he loved it.

Tina Fey (53:38)

And he used to paint little portraits, little caricatures of Fred as, like, Ferracito, as Prince. And he would mail them to me and I would give them to Fred. And I think Fred still has one, which is, I think what, what made him think of that question.

Amy Poehler (53:49)

No way.

Tina Fey (53:50)

He was Fred's biggest fan.

Amy Poehler (53:52)

Oh, Don Fay has great taste. Like, he was a smart artist.

Tina Fey (53:56)

Cool guy.

Amy Poehler (53:56)

Really cool guy. And coming back around, if, if, if Fred has Don Fay originals, I have in my children's bedrooms, I have paintings done by Barbara Jost, Colin Jost's screen.

Tina Fey (54:11)

Awesome. So it's back to Jost.

Amy Poehler (54:14)

If you are listening to this when it comes out, Tina and I are gonna be on the road.

Tina Fey (54:18)

Yes. Look for us at a, at a theatrical venue near you.

Amy Poehler (54:21)

We have a bunch of dates and all over the US and it's been so fun and we're gonna have our buddies out there with us.

Tina Fey (54:26)

Is it Tina, Amy? Tinaamie.com, tinaandAmy.com youm would think I would know. You would know.

Amy Poehler (54:31)

I think so. I think it is tinaandamy.com I think so. But go check it out. Check out our dates. Come see us, and hopefully we'll continue to work together for another 30 years. I hope so.

Tina Fey (54:44)

Me too.

Amy Poehler (54:45)

Love you.

Tina Fey (54:45)

I love you, too. Thank you.

Amy Poehler (54:48)

So, you know, that's our first episode of Good Hang. Thank you, Tina, for coming. I did actually learn, I did learn that she learned things that I didn't know after 30 years that she obviously is in an emotional affair with her local newscasters. And that's a problem. And I should let her husband know. We are at a point in the show, the end of the show, where we're going to do something called the Polar Plunge, which is really simply, I'm going to talk about stuff that makes me laugh and, like, where we're finding joy and lightness these days. And so to add to that, before we go, I just want to say that check out my favorite sketch on snl, the one that I return to over and over again during COVID during tough times in my life when I was feeling, especially down, the first Debbie Downer, the Lindsay Lohan episode, when they're at Disneyland. That that sketch, to me, is the perfect example of how a good laugh can completely change your day, your week, your life, and why it is so funny to me is that the great Rachel Dratch, whose comedic stylings and physical comedy we experienced at the beginning of this episode when she couldn't get her headphones on, when Rachel is trying to stick the landing and get those jokes out, and we know that it's gonna be followed by the sound effects, and the audience has this moment where we're all in it together, that moment is still thrilling to watch. So do yourself a favor, because, yes, Rachel cracks up. And you know, when people crack up, it can be funny or sometimes it can be annoying or whatever. And, you know, I grew up with Carol Burnett and, like, loved watching the play that they all had and how they were all trying to kind of get each other to laugh. But what's so funny about Debbie Downer in that scene and why I truly watch it for a serotonin boost is because Rachel knows what's coming and she tries her best to keep a straight face and that she's, like, bursting like a silent film star. And anyway, that's what's making me laugh today. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weisburn, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by the Ringer and Paper Kite for the Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, cat Spillane, Kaia McMullen and Alaya Zaneris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Uber Eats is delivering game day deals because you can't watch eight hours of basketball a day on an empty stomach. I love to watch TV on my couch and then never get back up. And so once I'm down, it's hard to stand. And I definitely don't want to drive and get food. So Uber Eats delivers my food to me and then I shuffle over to my door in my pajamas and I grab the food. So whatever you're craving, Uber Eats has deals on all your game day favorites. You never have to miss a single buzzer beater. Get Game day deals on all your favorites. Only on Uber Eats order now.