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Jesse David Fox
Hello and welcome to Good One, a podcast about jokes. I am the host Jesse David Fox, a senior writer at Vulture and the author of comedy book How Comedy Conquered Culture and the Magic that Makes it work. Since 2017 I've been hosting Good One, a show where the guest comes on to discuss the process and thinking behind one of their jokes, bits or sketches. Over the last eight years I've interviewed, I don't know, 200 comedians from Bo Burnham to Kate McKinnon, Cat Williams to John Mulaney, Bill Burr to Take Notaro. Historically, you can listen to any of my interviews like this interview wherever you listen to podcasts, but this is the first episode if you want to, you can also watch at the Vulture YouTube channel. We will include a link in the show notes. This is the first of hopefully many Truly video Good One episodes. The guests are Nate Bergetse, Mikey Day and Streeter Sydal. We all talk about the sketch George Washington, which aired on SNL when Nate first hosted in 2023 and was written by Mikey and Streeter. Streeter is one of the head writers at SNL. He's been a writer since season 40. Mikey has been a writer since season 39 before joining the cast in season 42. We will start, as all episodes do, with a clip of the joke, or in this case the sketch which is the first incarnation of George Washington. And then we'll talk about how the heck it came together. So here is George Washington.
Nate Bargatze
I hear the British are sending another 5,000 troops.
Streeter Seidel
How will we ever win this war? By remembering what we fight for. General Washington, sit please. We need your strength for the fight ahead. We fight for a country of our own, a new nation where we choose our own laws.
Nate Bargatze
Here, here, said sir.
Streeter Seidel
Choose our Own leaders. Yes, sir. And choose our own systems of weights and measures.
Nate Bargatze
Weights and measures?
Streeter Seidel
S. Yes, yes. I dream of that one day our proud nation will measure weights in pounds. And that £2,000 shall be called a ton.
Jesse David Fox
And what will £1,000 be called, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Nothing. Cause we will have no word for that.
Nate Bargatze
Seems like we should have a word for £1,000, sir.
Streeter Seidel
And yet we won't. Because we are free men. And we will be free to measure liquids in liters and milliliters. But not all liquids. Only soda, wine and alcohol. Only those, sir. Yes. Because for milk and paint, we will use gallons, pints and quarts. God will.
Nate Bargatze
How many liters are in a gallon, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Nobody knows.
Nate Bargatze
And sir, in this new country, what plans are there for men of color such as I?
Streeter Seidel
Distance will be measured in inches, feet, yard and mile. So 12 inches to a foot.
Jesse David Fox
12Ft to a yard.
Streeter Seidel
If it were only so simple. Three feet to a yard.
Jesse David Fox
And how many yards to a mile?
Streeter Seidel
Nobody knows.
Nate Bargatze
Okay, well, how many feet to a mile?
Streeter Seidel
5,000, 280. Of course, it's a simple number that everyone will remember.
Nate Bargatze
Let's confess, it feels a little complicated, sir. Why not use meters and kilometers?
Streeter Seidel
We will, soldier, but only in certain unpopular sports like track and swimming. For popular sports like football, we will use yards. Football, sir? Yes, it's a sport where you throw a ball with your hands.
Nate Bargatze
So in football, there is no kicking.
Streeter Seidel
There's a little kicking. You kick the ball to get points.
Nate Bargatze
How many points, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Sometimes one and sometimes three.
Nate Bargatze
Very confused, sir.
Streeter Seidel
Do not worry. For our new nation, we will have rulers with two sets of numbers. Inches on one side, centimeters on the other. So we can see where they line up. Yes, except that they don't line up and they never will.
Jesse David Fox
Why?
Streeter Seidel
Liberty, son. Liberty.
Nate Bargatze
And the slaves, sir?
Streeter Seidel
What of them? You asked about the temperature.
Nate Bargatze
I did not.
Jesse David Fox
We.
Streeter Seidel
We show up two different, unrelated scales of temperature. One of them will make sense to the entire world and the other will be super random. Our great nation will use the random one.
Jesse David Fox
What is the scale called, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Fahrenheit. Spell that for me. Impossible. But one day, if we were brave, we would get rid of the U and a lot of British words like color and armor. But by God, we will keep the British. You in the word glamour.
Nate Bargatze
Only glamour, sir.
Streeter Seidel
Only glamour. That is my dream for our country. Myth. A melting pot of different measurements that will make Europeans throw little tantrums. In short, a land of liberty. Where all men are free.
Nate Bargatze
Where all men are free.
Streeter Seidel
Right.
Jesse David Fox
Thank you all for joining Me?
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
So I want to start with Nate. As you're getting success as a stand up. When did the possibility of doing SNL first cross your mind?
Streeter Seidel
The, like the year I got it. So when I was it last year, 2023? Yes, it was last year. Act like I've been there for. Feels like it's been forever. But earlier that year, I think I heard my agent said that someone was coming to see me in Vegas and they're like kind of. They were a fan. And so it was even just that the door was kind of open. So I heard it then. And then when I came to Radio City, a lot of people from SNL came out to that show and. And then it kind of just worked out with the, like the actors strike was going on and so I, you know, it was just like as a comedian, we have nothing where we're just alone. There's no union, no protection. Yeah, yeah. So we are just available for everything. And so it just ended up working out like that. I got the call about two weeks before and then was like, all right, it's happening.
Jesse David Fox
And so at that point, you know, or even your. What was your relationship to SNL growing up? Did your family watch it or, you know, or even what was your relationship to success Sketch. I know you first. When you started to do comedy, you first moved to Chicago.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, it was. I'm a, I was a big SNL fan, like growing up, you know, especially around my age, like with the Sandler and Spade and the whole group will frell. Like, so I was for a big giant fan of all the people that they were. SNL was a. I remember watching it. My buddies, like they were obsessed with it and we, I mean, I loved it too. And I watched it and it was, it was, it was something that I wit. That I kind of did want to have in my career. But I, at that, at this point I was just figured like, well, you know, I didn't think I was. I never auditioned for anything because I never thought I could get it in a million years. Like, I don't do anything. So I was like, what could I do anything? What could I do? What could I get? So I kind of thought it was going to be, you know, I just was like, you know, I'll just never do snl. But everybody that I looked up to, all their roots went through snl. So, you know, I was probably, I was a little jealous to not have any roots go through snl. So then, now to get to do it and actually have SNL Be this big of an impact on my career is wonderful.
Jesse David Fox
So I want to go through the days of the week, talk about how the sketch emerged and sort of how your all working partnership developed. So Monday is the initial pitch night. Mikey and Schrader. This was the third show in a row of the. Of the 49th season. How are you feeling at that point? What are you doing? Do you pitch anything on a Monday night this far into your run at the show?
Mikey Day
Always. Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
I thought y'all did pitch it.
Mikey Day
Yeah, we did pitch briefly.
Nate Bargatze
Usually a silly idea. Right. Monday pitch.
Mikey Day
Did we pitch this idea tonight? Is that what you're asking?
Jesse David Fox
What did you do Monday night?
Streeter Seidel
Did you say Washington? I thought you said something Washington.
Mikey Day
But maybe we might. Yeah, we might have.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. It wasn't this, but it was. Maybe it was like George Washington.
Mikey Day
Definitely on Tuesday, we.
Jesse David Fox
Sure.
Mikey Day
I remember we're not on Monday. We're on Monday. I think on Monday we're probably just in a panic going like, what are we gonna do? You know, going through ideas. Maybe we had said maybe something with George Washington.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
But this idea was not around on Monday in terms of us talking to Nate about it.
Mikey Day
Yeah. And it's an old. We had like a half draft of a very different version of it.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
From the previous season.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. That.
Mikey Day
I think probably on Monday, we probably looked at that and said, like, oh, maybe we can finish.
Streeter Seidel
They were trying to sell it. No one was buying.
Mikey Day
Yeah. No one wanted.
Nate Bargatze
A few different locales.
Mikey Day
Yeah, it was very, very different. And worse, I would say, much worse.
Jesse David Fox
What was the. I believe the initial spark of doing a George Washington sketch started with you, Streeter. What was the very initial thing be like? Oh, what if I wrote a George Washington sketch?
Mikey Day
The very initial thing from the previous season was I had been watching the HBO show John Adams, and Mikey and I were joking about the scene where it's during his inauguration and no one can hear him. That was like, the initial kind of idea for it.
Nate Bargatze
I feel like I watched John Adams once a year.
Mikey Day
Yeah, it's great. We always joke. We love to do Giamatti, how he.
Streeter Seidel
The man from Connecticut, how his voice goes real quiet.
Mikey Day
He's like, gets me. He's like, I would rather be a snake slithering in the grass. Ramps up and very fun show. But anyway, that's what it's started as.
Jesse David Fox
Do you remember what. Who the host was for that?
Nate Bargatze
I don't. I don't remember. I just remember us talking about, should it be his first day in office? Should it be an inaugural Address what should the locale be to get out the stakes of, you know, this fledgling country and all these dumb things that he's saying.
Mikey Day
But I think all it had progressed to in that, like, half draft was the idea that Washington saying, this is what the country's gonna be. But it wasn't so targeted as to, like, the weights and measures thing that it became.
Jesse David Fox
So. And then for you, Nate, first day is. Your first day is coming in Monday. What did you. How are you feeling?
Streeter Seidel
You know, it was like, first time meeting Lauren. First time being those offices, you know, they do really good job of making you feel comfortable and welcomed. So that was nice. But, yeah, then when you go into Lauren's office and everybody. Everybody comes and sits on the floor that's a little more crowded.
Nate Bargatze
Children.
Streeter Seidel
You really think. Yeah, it's. I mean, it's everybody. So you're just in there. I didn't. I don't think I realized that.
Nate Bargatze
So I haven't talked to an adult who's sitting on the floor.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, yeah. Like, you just. Everybody. And you don't know how to, like, you know, I don't want someone not to get their sketch because I, like, I stink or I'm something. So you're trying to be like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I don't know. Like, is this. Is this really it? Like, I didn't want to be like, hey, I like that either. Like, I just. You idiot. Because I was just trying to get out of the room, and I was like, oh. Then I complimented idea. So it was. Yeah, it was very, very interesting. It was like, you know, I just kind of sit there and was like, you just kind of go around and take it all in.
Jesse David Fox
Did you think that night, oh, this is going to go great or this is going to be terrible? Like, did you have any sense of what the show would be like from Monday?
Streeter Seidel
I think I was. I felt relieved that Because I said about. I don't want to be. I want to be clean. So I. I felt relieved that I think most of the. I think almost all of them were sketches that were not political, basically not clean. So that it. It. That I did feel the relief of that because I, you know, sometimes you just get worried, like, I'm gonna get pitched everything and be like, hey, you know, I mean, you don't want to, you know, I don't want to constantly go, I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that. So I was relieved that it wasn't Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
I think you mentioned that you. You told them ahead of time you didn't want to do anything political or. Or sexual. Can you talk about that? That why that was and why you want to make sure that was the case?
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, it's just. I mean, just what I do on stage, so it just fits with what I do. I'm not the sexual and stuff I wouldn't do, but political, it's like, I don't. I doubt I would do it either, but it had to really be something down the middle of the line that, like, doesn't really lean to one side or the other. But. Yeah, so I just was like, I'd rather just, you know, it's just not what I. What I do. I can tell what I'll be comfortable with selling and what I won't be comfortable selling. And so if there's a line or something that I'm like, you know, I'm not going to deliver this line the best because I'm going to probably deliver more nervous than I would. And so I would just. But they did unbelievable for that.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. So going into Tuesday, knowing Nate's voice and that Nate wanted. What is that exciting for y'all? They're like, oh, he doesn't want to be doing things that are edgy in these ways.
Mikey Day
Yeah. I mean, I think we always try. Every host has things they want to do or they don't want to do, and we're not. We're not going to try to make anyone do something they don't want to do and just create a bad show. So we're. We're used to working within different host guidelines.
Nate Bargatze
You know, sometimes the Halloween show, too.
Mikey Day
Oh, yeah. So, I mean, it's. For us, that's. It wasn't any big change. Every single host has certain things that they're, you know, that they don't want to touch, and we're not gonna try to force it on anyone. That would not go well.
Jesse David Fox
Before we dive into writing, I wanna back up a little bit to talk about your two relationship. Because our relationship.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Or your partnership. Mike, you started on the show in season 39 as a writer. You brought in partly to. Right. With Taran Killam and Naseem Pedrad, who were on the cast at the time. And you knew from Groundlings Streeter, you starred in season 40. You were hired with Cher Schneider from College Humor. How did you find?
Mikey Day
Not with her. She hired me.
Jesse David Fox
Really?
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
She was there a long time before me.
Jesse David Fox
Really?
Mikey Day
I think she just recommended.
Jesse David Fox
Got it to the head writers so Cher recommended you and you. So there you are, worlds apart at the beginning. You don't know each other necessarily. How did you find each other at the show? And what is it about one another that clicked?
Streeter Seidel
Wow.
Nate Bargatze
But we were put into an office.
Mikey Day
Yeah. That's the main thing.
Nate Bargatze
Together.
Mikey Day
They put us in an office.
Nate Bargatze
It's like college. You're like, okay, you're my roommate. I remember someone going, your new office mate is named Streeter. And I'm like, streeter, because I never heard that name. But at the same time, my name's Mikey, so I feel like it works out. We sound like a Nickelodeon show. And then just. I feel like by necessity and just the nature of the place, we just started working, like he would. He was up at 4am I was up at 4am and it was like, is this funny? And then it just kind of started happening. But I do remember the first episode. It was our first week working together. He was asleep on our couch, and I was leaning over him, smoking a cigarette out the window on the 17th floor. It immediately. You immediately get comfortable with your colleagues there.
Mikey Day
Yeah, I think it was. It was. You know, we were roommates. I was writing with the new writers because there was five of us. So we all kind of just clung to each other because you don't know what you're doing and no one really holds your hand there. And then a few shows in, I remember pitching on one of Mikey's ideas, and we're just laughing a lot, having a good time, and it was like, oh, let's try to do, like, one weird one, you and me, like, late in the night.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
And then, like, that weird one became, let's do two. And then eventually you just. You know, it's like when you get to college, you just cling to your. This is the kind of opposite, but you cling to whoever the first people you meet are. And then, like, over a few weeks, you start to meet your real friends, and you're like, okay, say goodbye to this guy. You know, thanks for the memories. But I found my. I found my one.
Nate Bargatze
Close encounter. I found my one.
Mikey Day
I found my purse.
Nate Bargatze
It should be on a greeting card. I found my one. I'm. Close encounter was the next season, right? Yeah, that was my third year. Second. Okay.
Jesse David Fox
Is there a thing that you're like. That's what we're able to do together?
Mikey Day
Tolerate each other, I guess. I don't know.
Nate Bargatze
You mean like a type of schedule.
Jesse David Fox
Or just like, something about the way you work together? You probably both have worked Ridden with other people before.
Nate Bargatze
I don't know. It's hard to, like, just this weird alchemy and chemistry that you can't really pinpoint.
Mikey Day
We can recognize good ideas in each other, and I don't think there's any ego about, oh, that was his idea. Or, you know, it's just kind of like we're sort of, let's go with.
Nate Bargatze
The best idea synonymized, which is great because I very. I respect this man a great deal. So I enjoy being lumped in with his successes as well as our failures. Yeah, we share successes and failures as well.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. Mike, was it ever floated that you might be a head writer as well?
Nate Bargatze
Whoa, this is getting intense, Jesse. I don't know.
Streeter Seidel
Go ahead. Are you angling? What if you. Intruder. Switch places.
Mikey Day
I just want to be a cast member. He just wants to be a head writer. I was saying let's just one.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
I don't really. There wasn't really. I don't think any discussion about it. And then luckily was able to do cast as well on my fourth season there. What's so cool about writing there is that even when you're on cast and you write something, you produce it, and it's so creatively fulfilling.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
You produce your piece from start to finish. The buck stops with you on everything. I mean, you talk to wardrobe and hair and makeup and everything to help make it happen. But, like, you're an. I think, even down to the shots.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
You know, you can tell Liz, our director, who's awesome, but you can be like, can we go in closer? Can we hold here? So it's a pretty fantastic the way the show's designed.
Jesse David Fox
So Tuesday night, Nate, how. How late did you stay up? Were you around? Did you.
Nate Bargatze
Nate was walking around the hallway just like, this sucks.
Streeter Seidel
This.
Nate Bargatze
Give me something.
Streeter Seidel
I go, this show. I go, how's it on? I would ask them, how's it? I go, I've met all your writers.
Nate Bargatze
Calling us all clowns.
Streeter Seidel
I went to the Lord. I go, I'd like to meet the real group.
Nate Bargatze
Not.
Streeter Seidel
No, they. Tuesday was. You go into each room. This the first time. Tuesday, I think I did actually get out. Not too late, because I went and I would go run my set, my monologue. And so that one I. I did. And then. Because the next one, I only read the monologue on that Monday, I believe. And I think we were. I was. I was there. Everything got later. I think the second.
Mikey Day
Right. Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Second episode was. I was there a lot more than I was. The first episode was Monday was kind of like, you know, you're there from, I don't know, three to nine or something like that. And then I was able to go run and do a couple sets.
Jesse David Fox
How, how did you approach your monologue considering this would be the first time being in front of a specifically new.
Streeter Seidel
I messed with it a lot at. I changed it a ton. I was trying to. I would record it and I would give it to them to listen to. No one cares. No one wants to listen to it. Like, you really can't believe it because you. I'm so used to getting it to, you know, like you do it tonight. Show you do anything. You got to kind of show them what you're gonna do. And they're like, do whatever you want. And I was, you know, I'd be like, did you listen to it? And they're like, I don't. It doesn't matter. I just couldn't believe that there was just this trust that I'm gonna go, can do what I think is appropriate. And so I love it, by the.
Mikey Day
Way, when there's a stand up host because it's like, oh great, he'll just take care of the monologue. That's like one less thing we have to worry about. We trust them, you know, they know how to do that better than we can tell them. So.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. I mess around with a lot though, because I was trying to. I understood the moment I was kind of getting into. I know even though I was at a point where we were starting, I was doing some arenas and with a stand up, it was doing it. But this was, you know, I've only been through the standup world, so this is actually a, a total other audience. And so I kind of knew the moment. So I was really. That, that first one, I went and ran it and did a lot of sets. I'd go down the cellar and just. Do they have, you know, four or five rooms? I just do five shows and just mess with and try to figure out what to open with, where it's going to go. You know, it was. A lot of the jokes are in my new special, but it's like, you know, but I couldn't tell the whole joke. So it's like just grabbing what I could grab out of it and all that and then just go out and try to do the best. I was pretty nervous. I was actually more nervous about the monologue than I was anything else. Because everything else you're like, I'm not, you know, if I stink, it's like, you're Like, I'm not good at this. Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Like, they wrote it.
Mikey Day
They asked me to blame it on us. Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
The monologue, you feel like there's like. There's that pressure. They're like, oh, great. A comic series of the beginning will be great. And so then you're like, will it. I don't know. You know, it's like you're in a. You're still in a studio audience. You're like, I hope it goes great. And all this. And then it took a moment to. When I. Yeah. I don't know if I might be getting ahead, but when you. When you go out there and you do it and you see. Because you can see yourself on tv, there's a monitor right there. And so just doing it. And I mean, in my head, your moments, you're like, there's millions of people watching this right now. Not later now. And so it's kind of wild.
Jesse David Fox
So you're working on the standup. How does it. Then you had this failed George Washington or the stalled George Washington idea. How do you then break through to have it be this completely different direction?
Mikey Day
I think we just talked about it, Mikey and I. And then when Nate came around to meet with everybody, you know, as the host, you go meet with all the writers on Tuesday, I think we mentioned it, like, you know, you're Washington. I think by that point, it had become Valley Forge. And.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
You're laying out, you know, the rules for the country. I remember Nate, you being like, yeah, that's something I could do. Like, that sounds like in my wheelhouse. And we're like, great. Done. That's it. You know, you just need the littlest encouragement.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
From a host.
Nate Bargatze
To be like, rather than a blank.
Mikey Day
Commit our night to this one.
Nate Bargatze
You know, it's always better than a blank stare in silence. And you're like, yeah, or something else. Or something else.
Mikey Day
We probably hit you with, like, 15 ideas. But I do remember Washington.
Nate Bargatze
You.
Streeter Seidel
You.
Mikey Day
That's in my wheelhouse.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Yeah. And it felt like y'all wanted. That was the idea, too. That.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Out of all your ideas, you would have pitched. It was not like, you have to do it, but it was like, hey, this idea we would like to do. And then I was like, yeah, I would like to idea. So it just kind of came together to be like, all right. But I didn't remember seeing much. I mean, you know, y'all really. I was A lot of trust. I didn't. I was just like, all right, I guess there'll be. We'll see what happens.
Mikey Day
There'll be sketches tomorrow.
Nate Bargatze
It is weird thinking now especially that I don't know who was hosting when we were working on the original. What Washington. It would later become with Nate. But the original infant stages of the sketch. It's crazy to think of anyone but Nate being Washington. I feel like it was faded that.
Jesse David Fox
It wasn't happening, especially with this direction. It just truly. It's why people think you wrote it. You're like, well, it just seems like you adapted your stand up.
Nate Bargatze
Of course it's Nate. I think they should be Nate on our money now.
Mikey Day
That happens. You just have a half idea. You know, there's something good about it. But whatever, whoever was there the week you thought of it, just like, it's not right. So you file it away and then someone like Nate shows up and you go, oh, that one.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, that.
Mikey Day
That'll mesh perfect. And I remember when we were writing it too, it was just like super easy to write. Just kind of came tumbling out. And that's usually a good sign.
Nate Bargatze
And like, I recently heard Conan talking about it and he was saying, I just kind of resigned to. There's magic to that place. And sometimes you can try and recreate it sometimes. And sometimes you'll get some great results. But there's just this weird magic that happens with the right host and the right idea at the right time. It's. It was one of those.
Streeter Seidel
I feel like, you know who else loved it? I just found out last night.
Mikey Day
Really?
Nate Bargatze
Tom Hanks.
Streeter Seidel
Because jumping ahead with Tom, that was fine.
Nate Bargatze
Sounds like you.
Streeter Seidel
Because he was here. Come on, Washington.
Nate Bargatze
And I get the crazy pumpkin man.
Jesse David Fox
One of my favorite things about SNL is like, if a sketch does well, one of Lauren's friends will, like, reach out to be like.
Nate Bargatze
That's when you know, it did well when Lauren's.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, it. I have ended up because I ran. I. I've just been in situations. I met Steve Martin. Martin short. I mean, everybody's brought it up to me. Yeah. I went to John Laney's all in Play last night. So that's where everybody was there from snl. It's great. Everybody go see it. It's. But it was. Yeah, it was like. I mean, Alec Baldwin, like, Tom. Tom Hanks, John Stewart. And that all of them were saying. Because I only see them very. In moments. Like, you know, because I don't live here anymore. And like, so then when I see them, they're all like. And they just. They only talk about that. So awesome.
Jesse David Fox
Congrats.
Streeter Seidel
I Told Tom Hanks. I wrote it, though.
Mikey Day
That's.
Streeter Seidel
I said, I wrote it. It was Tom Hanks. We heard you wrote something. I was the only one that wrote. I go, lauren refused to do it. I said, lauren, you better let me do it, Tom.
Nate Bargatze
I wrote it alone. Thank you so much.
Streeter Seidel
And he was like, that's even asked that.
Nate Bargatze
I know.
Streeter Seidel
I go, oh, yeah, the one I wrote alone. Yeah, yeah, it was a good one.
Nate Bargatze
And who's this? Steve Martin High. I wrote it alone. Thank you. I wrote it alone. I wrote it alone. That's so funny.
Jesse David Fox
Tom's like, that's funny. I wrote David Pumpkins.
Nate Bargatze
I wrote David Pumpkins.
Streeter Seidel
I go, wow.
Jesse David Fox
So how do you have the initial turn of like, oh, he's going to be talking about these sort of, like, observations of things that don't make any sense to the different moves within the sketch. Did that just sort of come through, talking it out?
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, the Keenan stuff.
Mikey Day
Yeah, right. The Keenan stuff was like, we need.
Nate Bargatze
Something else other than to break it up.
Mikey Day
To break it up. And then the idea that Nate's character, that Washington is just gonna not answer and keep going, felt like a perfect way to say everything without saying anything at all. You know, honestly, the most historically accurate part of the whole thing, too, that they were just like. We're just. We'll deal with that later.
Nate Bargatze
You asked about now.
Mikey Day
We're gonna focus on this later on. We'll deal with all that.
Nate Bargatze
For every fact in there, too, about weights and measurements and all of that. Streeter knows even more that we'd have to reel you in. You're like. Because you know how milliliters the conversion rate in some part of Europe. And it's like, you do know so much. And he knows so much about history too.
Streeter Seidel
He wrote it without looking anything up. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Streeto would be like, should we do a sketch about that small uprising in 1512? What? Phillip's last uprising.
Mikey Day
King Philip's war.
Nate Bargatze
I'm thinking about all of this stuff that you know because you're a smart man.
Mikey Day
A smart.
Nate Bargatze
You're like, yeah. I mean, you're smart about a lot of things, but I. I just.
Mikey Day
None of that has made it into.
Nate Bargatze
The Street Will be like, do you think people know about King Philip's war and why it's so funny? I'm like, I don't know if maybe. I guess we could explain it to people.
Streeter Seidel
I've never heard of the John Adams thing y'all mentioned earlier.
Nate Bargatze
So you haven't seen John Adam?
Mikey Day
Yeah, I don't know. The jokes. I mean, it changed a lot, too. Like the one that Nate read, a table had, like.
Nate Bargatze
It was super long.
Mikey Day
It was long. There was a lot of jokes about. I just remember this. We had a millimeters thing, and it was like, we'll only use that for guns. We'll also have another thing called caliber, and no one will really know the difference or why we're using. But it was just. It was getting, like, too much, too muddy. And then so we put, like, the football stuff in.
Nate Bargatze
And so, yeah, there's, like, much more.
Mikey Day
That came from the table. It was much more accessible. And like, oh, that's an easy. And then the way Nate delivered. It's a little kicking.
Streeter Seidel
It was a little kick.
Mikey Day
It was perfect.
Nate Bargatze
Nate's stare is incredible. His stare out, the blank stare, it's truly cannot be captured by anyone else. I don't know what's going on or what you're doing, but it's incredible. Just.
Streeter Seidel
I don't know if I know.
Nate Bargatze
Are you making any choice? Because there's liberty behind the blank stare as well. You can see Washington's vision.
Mikey Day
Washington's always sort of glancing off into the future.
Jesse David Fox
And when you got it, do you go, I'm playing the character George Washington right now? Or you go, I'm gonna read this as Nate. If he was wearing away.
Streeter Seidel
I don't know if I completely think that. Yeah, I think it's. But, I mean, you do. I think he was kind of trying to talk a little, maybe more presidential. I'm got to be in control of these men.
Mikey Day
Declarative.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. So it's like you're. Yeah, so it's like I'm saying it like that, and. But, yeah, I don't know if I thought of, you know, the staring off is just. I mean. Well, y'all were telling me to stare.
Nate Bargatze
You're like, yeah, and you're reading, and.
Mikey Day
We put cards up high.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. So. So you're kind of looking up. I was trying not to. Like, where it's so obvious that you're looking at the cue cards. So you kind of, like, can look at them, but then looks like you're looking. And so I was just able to play in the circumstances that I was in.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, it's hard on. When you're on stage performing, this is mostly with the second one. If you make eye contact with Nate, it's hard not to break. So I try to look out a lot because. And you can feel in your periphery, him staring at you with that George Washington stare, because, you know, you're like, I can't stare into it.
Mikey Day
He's a serious man.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Washington.
Nate Bargatze
There hasn't been a lot of portrayals, I feel like, of George Washington and media. I mean, beyond that.
Streeter Seidel
They went to John Adams.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
They went straight to John.
Nate Bargatze
You don't really know.
Mikey Day
It's kind of boring.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah. I feel like you kind of know Lincoln.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
You know what I mean?
Streeter Seidel
You kind of had some pizzazz. He was, you know, at a plate.
Mikey Day
Washington's stoic.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, exactly. So you kind of. I feel like Nate's the definitive George Washington.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. At this point, I think so in media. I don't know.
Nate Bargatze
That'd be great if it was a serious biopic. When Nate turns into, like, you win an Academy Award.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. They go off a sketch, they go. He goes. I just. Once I saw it, I just.
Mikey Day
That's him.
Streeter Seidel
Who was going to believe.
Mikey Day
Who could.
Streeter Seidel
Who else that would have beat out?
Nate Bargatze
Tom Hanks.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, Tom Hanks. Because Daniel Day Lewis said he'd come back for this. And he goes, no, Nate's got to do it.
Nate Bargatze
He wrote the sketch alone.
Streeter Seidel
He wrote the sketch alone. Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
The Oscars not for performance. The Oscars for writing it.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Adapt a screenplay of your own sketch.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, yeah.
Nate Bargatze
It's a clean sweep.
Streeter Seidel
It's a clean sweep.
Jesse David Fox
So how did this sketch play on Wednesday, besides the sort of, like, seemingly as two in the weeds with too.
Nate Bargatze
Many examples, I'd say it didn't feel double or a single.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, no, it was a single. It was not good.
Nate Bargatze
It was mildly amusing.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
You could tell that there were enough good jokes that it was like.
Nate Bargatze
That it could work.
Mikey Day
It could work. But it wasn't like a heater at the table.
Streeter Seidel
No, no, no.
Mikey Day
And I think we all got a little worried about it. Not worried, but it was like, I believe in this idea. It'll. You know, obviously, there's no costumes. There's no set. There's none of the, like, the pageantry that surrounds this very stupid idea that makes it funnier.
Nate Bargatze
Just a lot of facts written out.
Mikey Day
Just a lot of facts.
Nate Bargatze
When you look at the script, you're like, this is just someone stating facts.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Why is this funny? Very few punchlines with a few, like, liberty.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Metaphors intertwined in there.
Streeter Seidel
I think that. But, like, my act is kind of. If you read my act, it would. A lot of it is. Would be like. Well, that doesn't.
Mikey Day
I think that's where we were.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, going, like, they can get a.
Mikey Day
Laugh just saying, like, yeah, So I went to the grocery store, like, and that's a huge. Like, you're able to do that with your cadence. And just how when the audience goes along with you, and it was like, they'll go. I think they'll go along with it for this one. But you can't tell. You just never.
Streeter Seidel
It was. Yeah, it did. It definitely did not go good. And it was not leading to, you know, double. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Foul ball. I got. I got, like, a hit. Where you think I go. I thought it was a foul, but it was right inside. And they just tossed it to me. They tagged me at home plate and go. I didn't know I should run. I thought that was a foul. It's real embarrassing. Yeah, the chalk a dribbler.
Mikey Day
I think you got it in, though, right? In the media?
Streeter Seidel
I did. I don't know where.
Jesse David Fox
That's the next question.
Streeter Seidel
We're not. Oh, we're at what?
Jesse David Fox
You know, Because I believe you were the one who pushed for it when Lauren was like, not sure if you go to the next round.
Nate Bargatze
Our hero.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, yeah.
Jesse David Fox
You're George Washington.
Streeter Seidel
I go. I think I go, sure, Mike. You got something for Liberty? They. Yes, it was so after that table Reed. Thursday, we shot that. So fry Friday, we were getting fitted still for everything. Like, Right. Everything was, like, acting like it was gonna go. It wasn't like it was getting cut then.
Jesse David Fox
Oh, God.
Mikey Day
Yeah, it wasn't.
Streeter Seidel
So it was.
Jesse David Fox
We cut after dress.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesse David Fox
So you're. So. I guess the question.
Mikey Day
It was dead last, I believe, at dress.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, we want to wait for dress.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah, let's wait to dress. We got Thursday, so Thursday, Friday, and Saturday day. We'll go through.
Streeter Seidel
All right, so we're at dress. So sorry. We're at rewatch.
Nate Bargatze
Are we at air?
Jesse David Fox
We're.
Nate Bargatze
No, we're not at air.
Jesse David Fox
We're Thursday. We're Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday day. Anyway, so it seems like the major changes was to move it out of, like, a joke machine into, like, a sketch that has characters that are moving almost. Would that be fair? It seemed like they're not moving much.
Nate Bargatze
Not moving.
Mikey Day
There's one character moving.
Nate Bargatze
Right, Right.
Jesse David Fox
Because I think, like, when I think of the sketch, the things that I think make it work is not just, like, the facts, but I think the line the soldier goes, how many liters are in a gallon, sir? And he says, nobody knows.
Nate Bargatze
Nobody knows.
Jesse David Fox
That sort of, like that game of him. There just be parts where he's like, there's no answer. To that I feel like is the thing that allows it to like, oh, this is a specific person. Not just for some reason George Washington is saying these facts about things nobody knows.
Nate Bargatze
Usually followed by a shoulder pat on the shoulder.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
And a move just moving on to someone else. I mean, really, that. I feel like a lot of that stuff was in there. It was just taking the weaker jokes out and getting the table to pitch better ones that could. And luckily they came through in a big way with a couple really good ones.
Jesse David Fox
Do you want to give anyone any credit?
Nate Bargatze
I don't remember. I'm going to take a page from Nate's book and say we did it all alone.
Mikey Day
The rewrite on the ninth floor, that.
Nate Bargatze
Was where it was on the second one, Mike Dzo helped.
Mikey Day
That is true.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
And the second one, Mike Tzo.
Nate Bargatze
But the first one, I do not remember the table. I remember sitting there and the football thing coming out of it.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Did we block on Thursday as well? Cuz sometimes you. You'll block a sketch the same day you rewrite it, which is a little. I feel like it was on Thursday because it wasn't that complicated. Sometimes some of the easier ones. Staging wise block on Thursday.
Mikey Day
I do remember feeling. Feeling a lot better about it when. When they were like, oh, it's going to be on home base. And I was like, oh, it's great. Because then Nate's right in front of everyone. You know, it's right there.
Nate Bargatze
I feel like we had needed to add and blocking some moves for Nate.
Mikey Day
Some crosses and some crosses.
Nate Bargatze
And by like the third time you do it, you're like, I don't know. I think this is funny, right?
Streeter Seidel
Well, yeah, the crosses were. Because everybody's just in the same sitting there. And you're like, I'm like having to. And I'm crossing over and you're trying to do everything. Then you're like, well, I gotta tap him. And so there's it. I mean, when you look at it, it's crazy because you're like, yeah, dude, is. You're not easy, but you're in your head. You're like, all right. And they're like, now you're gonna cross. They wrote cross on the cue cards. So I would know.
Jesse David Fox
Just for those who don't know, you said the idea of home base. Can you explain the sort of stages of snl?
Mikey Day
I mean, they kind of cram sets in wherever they can. But home base is, you know, where the monologue happens.
Nate Bargatze
The band behind them, Weekend Update is on home base. It's Kind of the center stage, so to speak. Right.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
So you really. It really feels like a performance because sometimes you'll be.
Streeter Seidel
It's where you do the model.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Sometimes you'll be under the bleachers, and people can kind of see you, but they're mostly watching the monitors. So on this one, you're kind of doing a. Like a play almost.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
I always thought one of the cool things I heard was the cowbell sketch. It was. It's like, where they shot that was way in the corner, like this small area. So it's this crazy, legendary sketch that was. Most audience in the room couldn't have even. Couldn't even see it because they were so. I don't know if. I mean, like, with 20. People could probably see it because it was just so far back.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
So I. I just. I thought that was neat. Like, because you just. I don't know why. You just think, you know. I don't know. You just think everything's gonna be right in the middle.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
You get there and you're like, oh, no. This was, like, ducked out.
Nate Bargatze
The first Wayne's World I heard, too, was really. I don't even think. I don't think we even use that anymore.
Mikey Day
No, it's.
Nate Bargatze
It's like, next to the music.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
What were the notes for the. The. To build out the sketch beyond the words. The. The music, the costume, the wig music was always there.
Mikey Day
Since table music was there from table.
Nate Bargatze
We used the song from Glory at table, which is. What is it? End credits?
Mikey Day
Yeah, it's like the Glory end credit song.
Nate Bargatze
It's very.
Mikey Day
So they had to find Goosebumps, Something like that.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Mikey Day
And they did incredible job.
Streeter Seidel
I did watch Glory, one of my first movies my dad actually showed us. I couldn't watch anything. We could watch Glory.
Nate Bargatze
You're gonna watch Glory, son. And then eventually, like, Private Ryan.
Streeter Seidel
I don't think ever really made it to that. It was. But I was like, out of all the stuff I was not allowed to see, some reason out of the gate, Glory was like, dude, I remember I.
Nate Bargatze
Had a guy's head exploding within.
Streeter Seidel
I remember that, too.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Back. And he's like, come on. And then his.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, I do too. I was watching that movie a ton.
Nate Bargatze
Glory is the only one.
Jesse David Fox
That's the secret.
Streeter Seidel
That's the secret of the sketch. Yeah. That's why I kind of knew what to do. It was in me. It was like, once I heard that music. This is my childhood, really.
Nate Bargatze
Only movie this kid can see is Glory. Guys want to watch Glory?
Streeter Seidel
I wouldn't be allowed to watch Wayne's World.
Mikey Day
Not even Home Alone.
Streeter Seidel
I could watch Wayne's World. I'm not gonna watch Glory.
Nate Bargatze
What's your favorite Christmas movie? Glory.
Streeter Seidel
Glory.
Jesse David Fox
Costume.
Mikey Day
Oh, yeah, the costume.
Nate Bargatze
I mean, we just department Tom Broker and company.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Fantastic.
Mikey Day
I think we just always.
Nate Bargatze
Great.
Mikey Day
We said they should be dirty. They've been in Valley Forge for a while. It's tough times sometimes.
Nate Bargatze
Who has a hat? Who doesn't? Do you want to hold your hat? That was the biggest. I feel like. But no, I feel like the set and costumes are always fantastic.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
From the jump.
Jesse David Fox
We'll be right back with more Nate Bragatzi, Streeter Seidel and Mikey Day.
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And we're back with Nate Bragazzi, Streeter Seidel and Mikey Day. So here we are Saturday night.
Nate Bargatze
Ooh, we got there.
Jesse David Fox
The music is playing. Cue the saxophone.
Nate Bargatze
The dress music is playing.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. So you're not still. We're at 9:00. What time is dress?
Streeter Seidel
8. 8. Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
How are you feeling?
Streeter Seidel
Feeling good. You know, the only thing I knew from s. What's that? What was the TV show that was. Yeah. I would always. Every. Every moment of snl, I would go, just. I've watched that show. And so every. I told Lauren that I go, I goes, this all like studios. Every time we were sitting up any. We'd go to Lawrence office. I'm like, dude, this is like Studio 60. He goes, he has the curtain out.
Nate Bargatze
Lord, how come you're. You're.
Streeter Seidel
You're curtained just like it was on Studio 60? Dude. I go, that's crazy.
Nate Bargatze
How come you're sitting and not giving all notes while walking down a long.
Streeter Seidel
Corridor that was only engaged to snl.
Jesse David Fox
The idea that you visiting the White House, this is just like the West Wing, dude.
Streeter Seidel
This is crazy. The office. This is like when they. What's that blow up the A1. Yeah. It'd be the White House.
Jesse David Fox
Paul.
Streeter Seidel
White House down. Yeah. I've watched you. I moved Glory. I go Glory.
Nate Bargatze
White House down.
Streeter Seidel
White House down.
Nate Bargatze
Interesting.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
They both have an Americana vibes, so.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. So I think 8:00, we feel, you know, good everybody's coming to use sketches. I mean, being that first week, you're trying to get, like, gather, like, what's going on. You're still trying to, you know, kind of keep your head above water and then. But it is. It is in there. It's to. Well, when you go up to pick it. That what we're going to do for dress rehearsal. I remember there it was on the. The thing of out. And it was. It was the maybe.
Jesse David Fox
Oh, yeah.
Streeter Seidel
And so it was the maybe. And so we're going through and we're. He's saying, like, what? I say what? You don't realize you have. You do have a lot more say than you think you do at snl. So, you know, pardon me. I'm like, y'all just do it. I don't. I don't want to ruin your 50 years of TF television because it's like, well, I got. Because I watched Studio 60 and I'm like, I got some ideas they do not have. This would not fly in Studio 60.
Mikey Day
Absolutely.
Streeter Seidel
And so it was. It was on the maybes. And I just remember Lauren, he goes, what do you think? He looked back at me and I was like, I like that Washington sketch. And he goes, all right. And he put it last. He knew that it was. That was the sketches. It was mainly. It was, you know, mostly me. And he was like, all right, we can do it. Last address rehearsal. So that's kind of. I. You know, it's one of those. I don't know if I said that if it. Maybe it would have just because there was so much commitment already into it.
Mikey Day
I don't think so.
Streeter Seidel
But it. Yeah, I could see it because the.
Nate Bargatze
Thing was a lot of heat around it throughout the week.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
It was kind of like the studio's like, oh, no, we'll dump this here. We'll see what.
Streeter Seidel
I think. It was like getting into the washing stuff, too. It was like just. That was the biggest costume.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Thing. So it was like, you could just cut out a Lot of stuff. Like, if that one works, you're like, well, that, you know, that's the biggest kind of. You got to jump into all this kind of stuff. Everybody's got to change. And all this had that going for it.
Mikey Day
That it was a good look.
Streeter Seidel
It was a good.
Mikey Day
They're always considering, you know, on a variety show.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
You want stuff to look. You don't want everything in an office. This, you know, so it was at.
Streeter Seidel
The maybes, though, and I was. I. I remember going. Because I do remember thinking, like, they said I could say stuff, but do I say, so this is the time? And so I was like, might as well. And I go, I. And he said, what do you. I go, I like the Washington one. And he goes, he put it over into that.
Nate Bargatze
Thank you.
Streeter Seidel
You said I could say stuff, and I said stuff.
Jesse David Fox
And then you do an address and you're vindicated.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, yeah. It destroyed. It's murder to dress because I. I'm not a good auditioner, so I never got stuff. So, like, a table read with no cr. I need. I'm good with the crowd. So I think that's why I was never worried about it, because I was like, in my head, I just knew, just let me get in front of a crowd. It's going to be great. It's the. With no laughter and no anything. You know, it's uncomfortable to do this kind of timing. I'm so used to, like, stopping because of laughter and, like, playing with the rhythm of the crowd. So once we're able to do it there. I always felt pretty good about it just because I knew that just. I mean, I was, you know, I came from a show, doing a live show, going right back to a live show. So it's. I was doing stand up and I was like. I just felt pretty good about it. So once we did it, I knew it was, like, not feeling great. But then, I mean, once we were in it, it was like, once it was over, it's like, well, that murdered.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
And it was pretty far down. Was it last? It was second to last. It was dead last.
Streeter Seidel
Dead last.
Nate Bargatze
Wow. I thought it was like, second, but I think.
Mikey Day
I think we too.
Nate Bargatze
We, like.
Mikey Day
And Lauren also felt like once there's a crowd in here.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
This will feel different.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
You know, no one was, like, outright hating it.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
No one was like, this thing sucks. But it was like, we don't know.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Mikey Day
We'll see.
Nate Bargatze
It was just like. I feel like Lauren was like, hopefully we'll get it to where it needs to be.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Because it is, like, on paper, like, we've said very few, like, jokes, like, traditional jokes. It's all just attitude and how Nate plays it and stuff. So.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
You also don't know if people will laugh. They might just be like, huh, they.
Mikey Day
Took that turn the second Nate goes. Our own system of weights and measures. And everyone laughed.
Jesse David Fox
It was like rewatching the. The one that aired. It is unbelievable. It's like the audience knew. It was like. It was the second version of that, how hard they laughed.
Nate Bargatze
Thank you. Someone's bringing this up. It's so stupid what we do.
Jesse David Fox
I. The. Well, did you get. Did it change any between dress and air?
Nate Bargatze
Not all.
Mikey Day
Maybe we cut one little out.
Nate Bargatze
Like, it was pretty much the same.
Mikey Day
I remember, you know, I mean, when something hits, like, you don't want to mess you up.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, maybe. Yeah. It would have been time would have been the only thing. Yeah. Maybe a line or something for time or whatever. Yeah.
Mikey Day
I think we cut. Truly cut, like, one couplet out, maybe especially on air.
Jesse David Fox
I think one of the things that is really going for it. It's the first time I can think of where the host's monologue essentially directly leads into what that sketch is about. Your monologue was about not knowing things and, like, not knowing history.
Streeter Seidel
I want to learn more about history because I don't know anything. And so I'm trying to figure it out. And I can tell I don't know anything about history because every history movie I watch, I watch on the edge of my seat. Just. I mean, like, what. What is going to happen? You know, I don't know. I watched. I watched the movie Pearl harbor, and I was as surprised as they were. Just crazy. All right, we've got a great show for you tonight.
Nate Bargatze
That was all on purpose, right?
Jesse David Fox
Literally. Maybe in the history of this, it did feel like almost like Chappelle's show where he does a monologue about what.
Streeter Seidel
The sketch would be. That also helped it go good. Straight up. Introduced it. Yeah, we're gonna do this George Washington thing later, guys.
Nate Bargatze
Stick around.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, stick around.
Mikey Day
Wonder what George Washington might have to say about that.
Streeter Seidel
I don't know.
Nate Bargatze
Maybe after round. Maybe.
Mikey Day
We'll find out.
Nate Bargatze
We'll find out.
Jesse David Fox
I think the thing that also is in the costume, in the audience, it's like. And it's also the same thing that happens with you, like, when you're playing arenas is, like, the contrast of the way you're talking and the nature of the situation keeps on getting heightened. So when it's on snl, you're like, this is what they're doing. Like, there is an added element of, like, it is so silly that this is what the sketch is about. I think. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
It's. What's so great about that show is, like, we look so good. The set is so well done. Like, all of those components are so well executed that you can have fun with the dumbness of what it's about. Or being said, like, that part will always be so legit. All the other components to it.
Jesse David Fox
So, Mike Intruder, you've been parts of some of the hottest live sketches of the last decade in terms of how they put Jesse.
Nate Bargatze
It's a fact. Stop. You flirt.
Mikey Day
Stop that.
Jesse David Fox
Close Encounters, David Pumpkins, Beavis and Butthead. Many, many more. And I feel like it's a lot of stinkers, too.
Mikey Day
But we're not stinkers.
Jesse David Fox
But even so, I feel like it is also notable in a decade where Pre tapes are seen as cooler or it's easier to do pre tapes. And I feel like y'all have made it a point of pride to do live sketches.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah. When you get a live one, to get.
Jesse David Fox
What is it about?
Nate Bargatze
Tension. Just because I feel like. I feel like Higgins says, there's no other place out there that does what SNL does, so it's able to produce something special and different. So if you can utilize this medium well to what it's, like, built for and what it can showcase unlike anything else, then you have the opportunity to do something really cool.
Mikey Day
And I don't really like the live stuff. I like my Pre tape a lot more.
Nate Bargatze
So, listen, we love a good Pre tape.
Jesse David Fox
Yes.
Nate Bargatze
We love our trailers.
Streeter Seidel
Higgins called. He called me before I got there, like, to, you know, kind of let me. I always liked what he said. He goes, it's this week. This is what you thought show business would be like?
Mikey Day
Yes.
Streeter Seidel
He's like, that's what SNL is. And then when you. And that was the best way, that really helped me rap, because that's what it felt like. You're just. You're writing something and then immediately going and trying it or going out, and you. You. Everything gets solved in that one week, and then it's done. And you're like, forget it all. Start over.
Nate Bargatze
There's like showgirls and animals in the hallway.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. We had one sketch. We had Noah sketch.
Nate Bargatze
Bunch of kids.
Mikey Day
Oh, yeah. I think it was.
Nate Bargatze
That was Chase.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Completely forgot about that one.
Jesse David Fox
What happened?
Nate Bargatze
Crazy.
Streeter Seidel
That's what's hard when they. Whoever writes the sketch. They're there and you're like, Phil, you're like, I guess it's gotta go. I feel bad for this. You guys just staring at the. He's like, I need to sketch skill. I'm joking.
Jesse David Fox
This is another way in which you're like, George Washington.
Streeter Seidel
Yes.
Jesse David Fox
The burden of decide their fates.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, you played Noah and George Washington at dress. That's so funny.
Streeter Seidel
I completely forgot about.
Mikey Day
Those are real iconic.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
People.
Jesse David Fox
So we talked earlier about how y'all two found each other or developed and made your partnership made sense. Nate, what was it like for you coming into the show? You did not know them before this week. Week. And then by the end of the week, they are able to figure out your voice and help translate it for you.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, I mean, we. I. I knew him in the Scream of us doing comedy. Being around, especially Streeter was around. We were all doing stand up. Stand up, like in New York and forever.
Nate Bargatze
Everybody.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, well, yeah.
Nate Bargatze
He was like, oh, yeah, I did.
Mikey Day
Stand up because my name is weird.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, people, your name is weird. But you were like, you got broken. You got. You were. The college humor was like a big, big thing. And so we always thought street was better than all of us. And look how wrong you were.
Mikey Day
Selling out arenas, Dubai.
Streeter Seidel
No, but I. So we knew each other. It was. You were. You. Tell me about the messages you sent on Twitter, which I thought was pretty funny. He's.
Mikey Day
It was like when I got hired on SNL as a writer, I think 2013 or 14, I saw that. So I went to. When I heard Nate was hosting, I went to go. I was like, let me message him. I haven't talked to him in years, you know, because I stopped doing stand up. So I wasn't around the scene anymore and stuff. And I was like, let me message him on Twitter and just say like, hey, dude, congrats on snl. And the last message I had was Nate sending one to me, being like, congrats on SNL. Look how perfect this is.
Streeter Seidel
Kind of worked out.
Mikey Day
10 years later, I get to say it right back. Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
But yeah, so it was. And then the relief, I think I felt because I always would. You know, I've always written my own stuff, so I was nervous about someone writing anything for me. But with the Washington sketch, and it shows to the writing because that's. Everybody thinks I wrote it because it just flowed so well with what I did. There was not. You know, sometimes the sketches, you might be like, let me say this. I'm not gonna say that. Like, I wouldn't say that or blah, blah, but the way they did it was. It was a. It, like, opened my eyes. It was like a relief to be like, oh, you don't have to come up with everything, you know?
Jesse David Fox
So I believe by the time the idea that you'd host the second time was. Came up, you had already started working together on what would become the Nashville Chris. The holiday special.
Streeter Seidel
Yes.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
So what were those conversations like? Was it immediate like, oh, we need to do George back, or if we're. Or was it more like, we can do it if there's an idea. How did. How did that conversation develop?
Nate Bargatze
I remember over the summer talking about various areas for another George Washington.
Mikey Day
Sending, like, little jokes back and forth or just like. But always with, like, if Nate wants to. Yeah, do it.
Nate Bargatze
You know, the text would just be like, 18 to vote, but 16 to dry. 18 to vote and die for the country, but. And look at porn. But 16 to drive and 21 or 21 to vote.
Mikey Day
21.
Nate Bargatze
No, no. 18. What is it?
Mikey Day
18 to vote 20.
Nate Bargatze
21 to drink and gamble. Yeah, yeah, but so that kind of.
Mikey Day
Rent a car like that, you know, just looking for stuff. I remember the kindergarten joke from the second one came out of that. I remember.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, I remember you talking about.
Mikey Day
But we were kind of focused on the, like, getting the Christmas special.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Sort of wrapping our heads around what that would be.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. That was like six months, which there ends up. When does this come out?
Jesse David Fox
This will come out after the. The. It airs, so.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, after the Christmas.
Jesse David Fox
So did you write the Christmas version of this before you wrote the second George Washington?
Streeter Seidel
An angel appears to us. Rejoice for God's son, Jesus is born in Bethlehem. Let this day be called Christmas, and let it be celebrated each year by gathering with family. Amen. Praise the Lord, thy doing good will in his name. Hallelujah. And by putting a big pine tree in your house.
Nate Bargatze
A pine tree angel.
Streeter Seidel
Yes, a big pine tree. And God commands the pine tree shall be decorated with glittering glass ornaments of incredible beauty. Also with garbage that your children make at school.
Mikey Day
We had, like, a version.
Nate Bargatze
We had a version of the Nativity.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Because we're like, that's a. There's a lot of funniness about how nothing about Christmas is related to Jesus in any way. And it's just all, like, German, Scandinavian, like, solstice tradition, you know, that they.
Nate Bargatze
Kind of got packaged before Santa.
Mikey Day
Yeah. But it all. You know, when you grow up with it, you don't really think about it. You're just like, of course we do the Christmas tree. Yeah, yeah, why not? That's awesome.
Nate Bargatze
Put a nativity set up.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, yeah.
Nate Bargatze
There's our Jesus stuff.
Mikey Day
So we. We were like, oh, this would be perfect for Nate, you know, for this, the Christmas special to. Yeah, look at that.
Nate Bargatze
That was.
Mikey Day
That was kind of like from the jump. We have that, and it'll. And we know it'll play in front of an audience. You know, the only question was, would it play in front of that big of an audience? I think.
Nate Bargatze
But you have Nate with angel wings. Come on. I mean, nice, curly blonde angel hair work.
Jesse David Fox
So then what was your thinking when they asked if you want to do.
Streeter Seidel
George the second time? The second time, I do remember saying a couple times, I was like, I don't know. Maybe I was like, I don't know. I had a buddy. I had a buddy that goes, do not do another one. And it, like. And I thought of it, and then you do. You're like, I don't know, man. Like, because it was before the nativity scene.
Mikey Day
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Streeter Seidel
And so before we actually taped the nativity. But, yeah, it was. I was kind of nervous, you know, you're just like, I don't. You're like, that one did. That one went so crazy. I mean, that was like, probably with the biggest, if not the biggest thing I've done in my career is the George Washington skills. Like, as a thing that people come up to me is. It's. It's all anybody said. I had a guy dressed like George Washington at his show. I text these guys.
Jesse David Fox
Wow.
Streeter Seidel
I tell the. I have to constantly text these guys. I feel like they. You got shoes? I sent. Yeah, shoes for us.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, my God.
Streeter Seidel
And then so I get. We were on his college game day was like, George Washington. It was like. It kept being so much stuff that I would, like, text him because I'd get so much of it on the road or whatever. So you're just like, I don't want to blow it up. You know, it's like, we kind of did it. So I was pretty nervous at first, but then when I read what they did, I like, it was. It felt very different enough. And I think I then got it that I was like, it's not about what the jokes are. It's just about the George Washington character, where you're like, it's more. People just want to see that character come back. What we're talking about is fun and funny, but it's really the rhythm of the character.
Nate Bargatze
I feel like at SNL2, there's a tendency, after you do something that goes, well, you're like, we can't. We can't do another one. We have to maintain the legacy. And then as a little time goes by, you're immediately like, yeah, we'll do another one. We'll run this into the ground so hard.
Mikey Day
As long as we've got jokes for it, we'll keep doing it. We'll do it.
Nate Bargatze
We'll do it.
Jesse David Fox
Well, I do think the second one, I think the key partly is, you know, when George Washington's giving a speech, the way he phrases is. And to do our own thing with the English language, which was like one famously, David Pumpkins, is his own thing.
Streeter Seidel
But we will live through the battle ahead because we fight to control our own destiny, to create our own nation and to do our own thing with the English language.
Nate Bargatze
Our own thing, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Yes. I. I dream that one day our great nation will have a word for the number 12. We shall call it a dozen.
Jesse David Fox
And what other numbers will we have a word for?
Streeter Seidel
None.
Mikey Day
So you're like, oh, this is our little bag of tricks.
Jesse David Fox
His own thing. But it does show that, like, the second version, you're like, oh, this is a character sketch this whole time. It's not like. Like an observational com. It's like he's doing it. I think, how did you approach to have it have more turns so it doesn't feel like you're just, like, doing the same rhythm of the script. Right.
Nate Bargatze
I remember talking about that intro.
Mikey Day
Yes. That.
Nate Bargatze
To go back, we talked about how to anchor it with a very.
Mikey Day
Like, what's the thesis?
Nate Bargatze
Yes, the thesis statement. I remember talking.
Mikey Day
Because that changed later. I forget what the original. It wasn't to do our own thing with the English language. It was something like, are we our words or words and numbers or something? Whatever.
Nate Bargatze
It was like that talked about the dozen things. So we're like, let's just make it language.
Mikey Day
Yeah. Based, but then adding, like, the James thing where Nate tells James to, like, get out of the boat and, like, cutting the music. We're like, oh, that's different. That's a new move. That's not in the first one, you know. Yeah, like, that's how you. I feel like you can get a recurring sketch or whatever, as long as you're changing it enough that there's still something surprising.
Streeter Seidel
But fear not, men. A hot dog will not be made of dogs.
Jesse David Fox
What is it made of, sir?
Streeter Seidel
Nobody knows.
Mikey Day
Sir.
Jesse David Fox
Shouldn't we know what's in a Hot dog.
Streeter Seidel
Get out.
Mikey Day
I'm sorry.
Nate Bargatze
Sorry.
Streeter Seidel
Get out of the boat.
Jesse David Fox
Just go over the side.
Streeter Seidel
Yes. Go.
Nate Bargatze
It was fun to get out on that boat. Although the very first boat we used in blocking.
Mikey Day
Not good.
Nate Bargatze
Was so small. Nate was like, for liberty. When you sit down, like, getting out of a movie theater, and you're down and you're like, excuse me. Excuse me. Getting past people's legs, it was ridiculous.
Streeter Seidel
The boat thing, that's the only thing I did think about playing, is when I went to talk to James to get out of the boat, I was like, I'm gonna just do my regular voice. Even I'm essentially doing it. But I was like, I'm gonna try to do the most regular voice and just like, get out. Get out, man. Like, I was trying to, like, just talk like myself, you know, in the moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, yeah, he's just so bad. Yeah.
Mikey Day
This guy wants to know what's in a hot dog.
Streeter Seidel
Y.
Mikey Day
He's just like, get out of here.
Nate Bargatze
I just remember being so. Because our lines are just the setups, and so you don't want to mess up a setup line. And I just remember liking the mattress joke so much that I didn't want to, like, flub. And I just remember, like, trying to enunciate so much for. And what will we do on holidays, sir? So why buy a mattress? Of course.
Mikey Day
So I feel like that's a Mike to Chancellor joke, I believe.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah. And I. It. It just. I know our. It's Bowen, myself, James. And Keenan has some kind of little attitude.
Mikey Day
Keenan gets to put a little mustard.
Nate Bargatze
We're very forgettable parts, but still, you take seriously, kind of nailing the setup so that Nate.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. I think the Keenan part is the other part that heightens clearly, where it's, like, more specific and you force George Washington to interact, but also be dismissive.
Nate Bargatze
Just completely ignoring his.
Jesse David Fox
It is interesting. The sketches end with Kenan.
Nate Bargatze
Yep. Both of them. I think they all have to.
Mikey Day
Can you name a better person? I think this is a sketch with.
Streeter Seidel
Again, how SNL's gonna end. It's gonna end. It all runs through Kenan. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
There's a. It's like, if you need an ending, you can't think of it. You can always just go, cut to Keenan. Or Keenan enters and you're good to go. You'll know it'll have life.
Mikey Day
Keenan yelling at Nate as Nate kind of doesn't clarify his point and walks off, like, head held high to dream about the future. And Keenan getting angry and yelling after him. I mean, that's a. That's a great way to go, you know?
Nate Bargatze
Perfect.
Streeter Seidel
We fight this war to free the English language and free the American people. All the American people, sir. Do you mean the slaves will be freed after this war? After a war. A war.
Nate Bargatze
But it's this war, right?
Streeter Seidel
It's this war, right?
Nate Bargatze
Bring up if.
Jesse David Fox
When Nate hosts again, will you do George Washington?
Nate Bargatze
Maybe thought about where we would put him?
Mikey Day
I would say it's likely, if we can come up with it.
Nate Bargatze
You know what? We probably will.
Mikey Day
I think people would be bummed out.
Jesse David Fox
They'd be very surprised.
Mikey Day
I would be bummed.
Streeter Seidel
I think after the second one. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
I'm trying to think of a good.
Streeter Seidel
I might be in a different place, though, since if I'm on there, I'm doing serious acting by then.
Nate Bargatze
Dude, it got really serious. I think he's going for an Emmy.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. It's not fun at all.
Nate Bargatze
But I'm trying to think of a good, like, third movie in a franchise return.
Streeter Seidel
It would have to be.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, we want.
Streeter Seidel
It has to be.
Nate Bargatze
We want a good third one.
Jesse David Fox
But the problem with that is then you. When you're doing the fourth one, you're like, by the fourth, they're like, okay.
Streeter Seidel
Well, the fourth one, I think we have to be done.
Nate Bargatze
Fourth one, you kind of reboot.
Streeter Seidel
We reboot John Adams, put him back.
Jesse David Fox
In the go, and then you just.
Mikey Day
Then it runs forever, also following the course of the war. So, you know.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Then he's president. Then eventually. I think the last one would be his. That letter he wrote where he says he's not going to run for president.
Nate Bargatze
But here's my dreams for my predecessor and successor. And what I want.
Jesse David Fox
That would be the last one. It's hard to know when that would.
Nate Bargatze
Be, but that early White House, where was the early. It wasn't. It was in New York, right? It wasn't in. Okay. Of course. You'd be so proud. Exterior, New York, honestly, if you want.
Mikey Day
To go see it, we're really close still.
Nate Bargatze
Where the original White House. Did they call it the White House.
Mikey Day
Federal hall on Wall Street?
Streeter Seidel
No. Or was it just George Washington's house?
Nate Bargatze
It was just like.
Mikey Day
He just lived on Broadway.
Nate Bargatze
It was just like government. Yeah, that's the government.
Mikey Day
The government's gotten a lot bigger since then, I believe.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, a little bit.
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
And there's the part I'm just thinking about the plot of Hamilton. And there's the part where they just. They move it to Washington as A compromise.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Which is why the financial. Financials are here. Anyway, Mikey's.
Mikey Day
Mikey's eyes just glazed.
Jesse David Fox
He's just like.
Nate Bargatze
He's literally on the tail end of being sick. So that's why I want to get that out there. That's why I look. Absolutely.
Streeter Seidel
I'm like, he hasn't been fun.
Nate Bargatze
I'm not fun.
Mikey Day
He's been an absolute dragon.
Nate Bargatze
If I get Nate sick. Hey. Yeah, that's what happened.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
I see Mikey preparing you.
Nate Bargatze
Can you write an article about me? Jesse, just a glowing review of me as a person, please. Thank you.
Jesse David Fox
Sure. Well, this is actually in. This question is a glowing review.
Nate Bargatze
You've been so nice throughout this whole thing, dude. Seriously, you're awesome.
Jesse David Fox
I was thinking about your run on the show and your legacy as an SNL cast member. And I do think. I think it's unique that there are big sketches and big characters that you have performed, but I don't think there's another cast member that has so many historic sketches that you wrote and were supporting. How do you combine those things? How do you think about that when you think about your time on the show?
Nate Bargatze
I don't know. I kind of lead. I feel like writing, and that's kind of what I think about. And then try to input me in there somewhere. Sometimes it's a more fun role or sometimes it's lesser. But usually lead with the idea. Sometimes I'll have kind of a mode or an attitude or a character type I want to play, and we'll kind of write around that. But Nio. A lot to this moon right here.
Jesse David Fox
If there was a Mikey DVD, the best of DVDs. If we brought them back, it'll just.
Nate Bargatze
Be Beavis and butthead for 82 minutes.
Jesse David Fox
And then sketches you wrote and be like.
Mikey Day
And Mikey wrote this one?
Nate Bargatze
Oh, yeah, he wrote this one.
Mikey Day
I'll say this about Mr. Mikey Day because I don't know if this is out there. He might be the only cast member ever who's written a sketch for another cast member that he is not in.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, yeah? Which one?
Mikey Day
The. The role playing.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, with Melissa.
Mikey Day
With Melissa. Right.
Nate Bargatze
We tried. You're just not able. We're like, can't. Can't. Crowbar my way.
Mikey Day
Generous. A generous talent over there.
Nate Bargatze
And we. For Washington, we were. Had so much fun with Nate and credit him endlessly for bringing that to life because I don't think anyone else could have pushed it over the finish line.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Not be talking about it would be what it was. Try that Washington one.
Nate Bargatze
It would have been a thing that we did, but it wouldn't be what it. I think it became.
Mikey Day
And I will also say one more thing. Nate also got a second, long, simmering idea of ours that we always loved over the finish line, which was the golf tape.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, the golf tape.
Mikey Day
545 yards to the green on this par five, and here's the drive.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, my God. Did I hit that bird, Amy? I have never seen that happen. It just exploded.
Streeter Seidel
Is it okay?
Nate Bargatze
This Wanted to do that for years.
Mikey Day
Like, we always talk about that. Randy Johnson exploding a bird.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Mikey Day
Oh, my God. That's such a. Like. Like, when you see that, you're just. Oh, my God. And we're like, oh, what about. Yeah, I mean, at least seven, eight years. And then Nate's such an incredible golfer. We're like, would you maybe want to.
Streeter Seidel
Totally go, that was great. I did not. I'm always sensitive to golf because it's like. Like, I'll get someone to say something. Golf. Because I like golf. And you're like, yeah, dude. But, like, not everybody's into golf, so I always think someone wants the idea. Then you're like, who's gonna care? But then that one did.
Mikey Day
Oh, so fun.
Nate Bargatze
Did I hit that bird?
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
So funny.
Mikey Day
Every time Nate comes by, he just, like, helps us get one of the things we love over the finish line.
Jesse David Fox
And, well, I feel like that's, like, the cast. The. The host that people love are the ones that are like, I want to. I want. My. My hope is that when I host, I can do that for the writers.
Streeter Seidel
They did the water slide was.
Mikey Day
Yes, another one. I'm sorry.
Nate Bargatze
What are you guys talking about?
Streeter Seidel
They want to send a dead guy down the water slide. Wait, wait. You think we should send him down the water slide? That is interesting.
Jesse David Fox
I had not considered that, but now that she brings it up. She's not wrong.
Streeter Seidel
I didn't bring it. It up. You two were clearly thinking about it. No, no, that was one that we. It was funny because that one, I was like, man, I want that one because the. To go. Because the idea is just so funny that if someone died, would you just push it on? So it's very funny to talk about the idea, and it's just delicate how you do it. Yeah. And then I remember being up in the office with Lauren, and we're going through everything after dress rehearsal, and, I mean, all I'm thinking about is the water slide. So he, like, looks at me, and I was like, what about water slide? He Goes, water slide's in. Don't worry about it. And then he's like, all right. And then.
Mikey Day
So that might have been the first one. It might have been like, washington waters, just move.
Nate Bargatze
He was like, all right, dad talking to his king. We got you, Nintendo. Relax, relax.
Streeter Seidel
Yes, it was exactly that.
Nate Bargatze
Don't worry.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
On the Lonely island in Seth Meyers podcast, Seth likes to say that his time with Lonely island was end. Golden era Streeter, you know, as a head writer, would you call you your.
Mikey Day
Era in the shadow of this?
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. Do you feel like. No. Do you feel like golden era? Do you think, do you feel that way?
Mikey Day
I mean, it's. I do. It's not really for me to say. I mean, I see. Seth says it. I see. Well, it's easy to say when, you know, it's years later and you can look back on everything, like, you know, in the moment. Every week, I feel like there's something, one or two things I'm like, that's classic. That's fantastic.
Nate Bargatze
You know, to contribute anything to the show's legacy that people like is fantastic.
Mikey Day
And I just see how many talented people are writing there and performing there and, you know, so it's, it's. I feel like, I don't know if I want to say golden era, certainly, but only time.
Streeter Seidel
40, I mean, yeah, 40th was such a big thing. And so then now you're at the 50th. It's. Yeah, I think it's SNL's just someone that just before I got on it, but it was. You would still see SNL kind of everywhere. And, and then. So I, I, I, Yeah, I agree. I think it's at a place because you're having some of this stuff go really vi. You know, with social media, you haven't lost it. Go really, really viral. And so that's, you know, and it's like said, like, live sketches. It's live. It's something that's. It's the last old school. There's nothing like that on TV anymore.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
And so the Christmas special, the idea of that was to bring something like that back, but there's just not anything. There's, you know, everybody that works there, like, has been there forever, and it's really feels like a family when you go in there, and that's not. And I think that shows through because you're competing with no one, really, because there's no one.
Mikey Day
No, no one's truly.
Streeter Seidel
No one's even trying. If one other person tried, it'd be Over.
Nate Bargatze
Nate Night live, Saturdays at 11:30.
Streeter Seidel
I'm clean, so I do mine at noon. Comes on at noon.
Jesse David Fox
But still, it's not Saturday.
Streeter Seidel
Saturday Night Live, noon.
Mikey Day
It's kind of for other people to look back on and label things when you're in the mix of it. And I've been there 11 seasons now, from 40 to 50. Like, you're just in the shit, and you're just trying to put out the best show you can every week. And then, like, I don't know, 20 years from now, maybe I'll look back and compare it to the era that came before.
Nate Bargatze
If I could go back on that podcast, I'd say, yes, it would be golden era.
Mikey Day
We didn't know how bad it was gonna get, but we've been there through some weird stuff, man. Like. Like Covid, you know, just, like, three elections. Yeah. But I'm sure everyone, anyone who's been there for a while can say that about their time as well.
Jesse David Fox
So, Nate, when we. When we last spoke, we were in the offices for your pilot in 2019, and we discussed how you thought about your career beyond standup, which is your number one. And I was wondering how. How does your success hosting SNL make you think about the work you want to do?
Streeter Seidel
That probably didn't go.
Jesse David Fox
I didn't.
Streeter Seidel
I blamed it on you, always. Yeah, he knew it, dude. He knew.
Jesse David Fox
He interviewed me too early.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, he hit me too early. One of the questions, when this doesn't go, what do you think you will be doing? And I go, well, Jesse.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, I saw it. It was awesome.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
So what's next?
Streeter Seidel
No, I. I think. Yeah, I love television. I still think television is still something people want to do. I just don't think there's stuff being put out for it. And movies the same way I think people want to go to movies. And so now it's about doing that. We did this variety show, got a few movies trying to kind of plan for. And so I started a company, Nateland. And the idea of it is just to. I don't build a trust with an audience that they can just come and it's not. It kind of. I'm trying to appeal to everybody, so it's like we're not trying to pick sides one way or the other, and people come for different reasons and just be entertainment for them. And so now I see it. I mean, you know, it's weirdly. Thankfully, I didn't get that pilot because I'm much happier with where I'm at now, because I Think I'm in a. I have a lot more control, and I can go in a direction that I feel I want to go in. Versus. I don't know if I would have had that, if I would have got it that way.
Jesse David Fox
So now it's time for the final segment of the show. It's called a laughing round. It's like a lightning round because it's a comedy podcast.
Nate Bargatze
Go take your shirt off and compliment the person to your left.
Jesse David Fox
That's a good idea.
Streeter Seidel
Mikey's got a great butt. I'm not taking my shirt off.
Mikey Day
This is just for him to feel.
Jesse David Fox
Mikey takes his shirt off for the second abs. Well, now it's a video podcast, so if anyone does want to take their shirt off, this would be a great time.
Streeter Seidel
This would be the time to do it. Mike, like it. Go ahead.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah. When it's audio. When I interviewed you for audio, it wasn't necessary, but it was appreciated. You all can answer these questions.
Nate Bargatze
All.
Jesse David Fox
You all can pass, but they're shorter questions, easy questions. Do you have favorite joke? Joke? Your street joke or dad joke?
Streeter Seidel
That's pass.
Mikey Day
I can't remember jokes. I know I have one, but I have to pass.
Streeter Seidel
I can do a golf one. It's a dumb one. Anytime someone teased the ball up and then they. When they set the driver down and just knocks the ball off, you go, all right, that's one. And he's like, that's the first stroke. It's not. You let him re. Tee it. But I. That. That's. It's not even an original joke. It's a very hacky joke on the course, but it's one that I always. It's very funny.
Mikey Day
I have a joke like that. Okay.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
At. At a Christmas, when someone gives, you know, family Christmas or whatever, someone gives someone, like, a really nice present, I like to say that's from all of us, and that does well within.
Streeter Seidel
That's a great one too. Yeah, that's from all of us.
Mikey Day
All the family.
Nate Bargatze
All laughs wow. That's fantastic.
Mikey Day
That's a good one. You can try that out.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah.
Jesse David Fox
Is there a joke or sketch you wish you could steal? You wish it. It's a different dimension where everything's exactly the same, but that sketch is yours or joke is yours.
Nate Bargatze
Do you know what you're gonna say?
Mikey Day
I know exactly what I'm gonna say.
Nate Bargatze
I was gonna that song from that dude on Instagram.
Mikey Day
Have you checked your butt?
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Have you checked your butthole? I don't forget his name, but he's very Talented.
Mikey Day
Australia, I think. Australian.
Nate Bargatze
It's a song about. About. It's a. What does he say? Just a funny thing to say to someone when you've lost something and you're stressed out visibly, and you say, have you checked your butthole?
Mikey Day
It's a song about how this guy's go to thing. Whenever someone's stressed out and is looking for something is for him to say, have you checked your butthole?
Nate Bargatze
And they get it.
Mikey Day
Everyone gets mad.
Nate Bargatze
I know that's an odd thing to say.
Mikey Day
I would. I would steal Mitchell and Webb's Are we the Baddies? One of my favorite sketches ever.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, wow.
Nate Bargatze
Yes, yes, yes. I mean, there's so many. There's so many. I don't even know where it is. That one's yours. That one's mine too.
Jesse David Fox
Is there a joke you wish you to steal?
Streeter Seidel
Dove Davidoff has a joke about relationships that really, really. It's just the way he gets into it and he talks about. I think he did it on tonight's show. His wife. It's a lighthouse. His wife called it a lifehouse. And then they get in a whole argument about it. He's like, but it's called a light. You know, you gotta see. It's just his performance of it. And it. It's. It's just. Yeah, it's. That's one that. It's, like, so relatable of something that it's. That was one that you're like, man, that's awesome.
Jesse David Fox
Do you have a favorite time you bombed?
Nate Bargatze
That was a lot.
Streeter Seidel
Of stuff. Yeah, man. Okay. A ton of times I bombed on a cruise ship.
Nate Bargatze
Oh.
Streeter Seidel
Yep. And then they. It didn't go good. And I was riding in the elevator to go. I was in the elevator in. On. On top of the water. Really? Sounds like you made it crazy. And I'm sitting in the elevator, I got my hat on, and the guy just goes, man, that Southern comic was awful. And I. I'm just standing next to him, and I saw his wife, like, bump him. He's like, what? He goes, what? And I just got off whatever the next four was, because it was like, this was.
Nate Bargatze
Wow.
Streeter Seidel
Not fun. Not fun at all.
Nate Bargatze
Wow, wow, wow.
Mikey Day
I bombed. Was the second time I did stand up. I had to follow Chris Rock, who had dropped in, and so I thought I was obviously cut. And they were like. I didn't realize they. There's always a sacrificial lamb.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
When that happens, he's like, they gotta drop the check.
Nate Bargatze
Why continue?
Mikey Day
So they were like, all right, kid. Get on up there. And it was all right.
Nate Bargatze
That was cool, right?
Mikey Day
And they're like, if you can do like 10 minutes. So we make sure we get all the chat. So I. I didn't even have 10 minutes. So it was brutal. Brutal.
Nate Bargatze
Wow. I mean, so many some bombs. There was a sketch we tried to do called Bebo. Was it Bebo?
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Which was like the end of ET but one the mom. It was like, everyone up with everyone. Yeah. It was like, very emotional, like, bye, I'll miss you. And then. Bye. And then the mom goes, I'll miss you. And then they just start making out. People were enjoying it. But when we did it, the audience was just like, no, thank you. Dead silent.
Mikey Day
I thought you were gonna say Pokemon.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, that's a good one. That was recent.
Mikey Day
That was recent.
Nate Bargatze
We were doing. It was Josh Brolin and Heidi.
Streeter Seidel
They were.
Nate Bargatze
Josh Brolin was like. And Heidi had just started dating. So he's like, I want to get into what your kids are into, so I can relate to them. So they like Pokemon. I'm gonna watch. So he starts watching it. And it. We're dressed as Pokemon, just like made up characters within that universe. And we're. And it's like, she's like, oh, I hate the American dubbed over pokey. Like anime. And we were just doing. Because the sounds are very, like, very like, sound heavy.
Jesse David Fox
Sure.
Nate Bargatze
And so we were doing that, but committing so hard. And the first time. Because it's like, if the first time we do it, they're not into it. It's like, oh, no, this is it. This is it for three minutes.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
There's nothing else in this sketch besides Mikey.
Nate Bargatze
And it was just like, let's go.
Mikey Day
Silence.
Streeter Seidel
Would you ever just stop?
Nate Bargatze
I think two people went, I think there should be a red button. That's like, jettison. We're in the middle. You can just go. So you push it, right? And then under the bleachers where Lauren is, his button lights up. And if he agrees and is cool with thing, he can push it as well. And the sketch ends. That's my thought.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Then everybody gets. You're like, thank you.
Mikey Day
Yeah, sorry about that.
Streeter Seidel
The crowd's like, all right. Well, we saw him. They tried something.
Nate Bargatze
If you push the button and Lauren doesn't, you're like, what happened?
Streeter Seidel
Why didn't you push the punishing me? I believe in your anime. You're like, huh? Did you push the button? Huh? Please push the button.
Jesse David Fox
Do you have a short story of an interaction with a legendary comedian living or Dead. You're willing to share, Any of you?
Nate Bargatze
What the. Aren't we, towards the end, A story.
Jesse David Fox
A short story.
Streeter Seidel
Short one.
Nate Bargatze
A short story. I mean, I have so many. I don't know, though, living or like, an interaction. You said. Okay.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah, y'all. I did a corporate gig recently with Steve Martin. Martin Short. Wow, that's so. Yeah, it was very random. It was. And Neil Young, or. Yeah. Is it Neil Young? Yeah, Neil. Yeah, yeah. It was us doing a show. It was at this lady's house. They built this stage outside. It was crazy, the stuff that she set up. And it was like, kind of put together pretty last minute. And so we all just like, we go to her house. So she had her house, and then she had the stage stuff set outside. And then I go downstairs and then it was like, Martin shorten and Steve Martin, and they're just in there. And so getting to talk to Steve Martin about, like, con. Like, a lot of, like, stuff that he said where it was like, you got to become undeniable and things he talked about in Stand Up. Yeah. So just get to talk to him about that. And then Martin Short with one of my favorite movies is Pure Luck.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, my God, I love Pure Luck.
Streeter Seidel
It's great where he does the straw. Yes. It's the fun.
Nate Bargatze
I've never heard another human being besides my dad, when we were saying it, talk about Pure Luck.
Streeter Seidel
I love it. That I've mentioned.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, that was amazing. I go, danny Glover.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
Sorry to interrupt.
Streeter Seidel
No, it's. And so I get to ask him about that. And then, you know, going up there and getting the. You know, the pictures and seeing Neil Young, then talking new Young after. And, like, it was just like a pretty wild, wild night of. Just legendary. That's the first time I got to meet anybody. Any of them.
Jesse David Fox
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
Oh, yeah. I mean, and they mentioned the George was. So it was nice to be able to meet them where I didn't feel like I was having to, like, they knew who I was.
Mikey Day
They knew.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Mikey Day
I mean, we meet.
Nate Bargatze
Should we tell Marty's stories? Just yesterday at Pitch, he went. He went, I see you still have a child's name. What else? One time we were doing a show called Maya and Marty with him. We were doing a sketch and there was a stop down, and to the audience, he just went, mikey, how does it feel? How does it feel to be the least famous person on this stage? He's the best.
Mikey Day
My favorite Marty time was at the rap party for Maya and Marty, which was at Jodi. Mancuso, our head of hair. She threw a little barbecue at her house. We were all there hanging out. Very fun. And then someone took out. Was it cards against humanity. And Marty had never seen that.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, my God.
Mikey Day
And so each thing was like an improv prompt for him. So, like, whatever the two cards were, Marty would just do like a five minute.
Nate Bargatze
That's incredible.
Mikey Day
Hysterical improvised scene. So it was like we weren't really playing the game. It was just like, let's see what Marty's gonna do next, you know, and they're all, like, incredibly offensive and stuff. But, yeah, man, it was really fun.
Nate Bargatze
Marty did the voice of Cat in the Hat in a cartoon, and my son was really into it, and he recorded a voice memo for my son. I was like, hi. Hello. I'm with your dad right now. I know. Weird, right? He's awesome. He's the best.
Jesse David Fox
And then last one. Is there a joke or sketch that never worked? You tried an amount of times, but you'll go to grave being like, I was right there wrong. That's funny.
Streeter Seidel
I feel.
Nate Bargatze
Magical bakery. Do we want to give that away?
Mikey Day
No, I know one.
Nate Bargatze
What?
Mikey Day
I have one.
Nate Bargatze
What?
Mikey Day
There's one we Mikey and I wrote called. It was a. For a car security system.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, right.
Mikey Day
And the whole thing was that it was a bag of old McDonald's that you just threw on your passenger seat. That would make car thieves be like, this guy. This car's gonna smell. He doesn't take care of his car. He's just filthy. I'll steal a different car. We were so confident in this idea, and I think it ate more. It was just dead silence. But I still maintain that that's a funny idea. That should have worked.
Nate Bargatze
That's a good one.
Streeter Seidel
They're gonna make me have to do it next.
Nate Bargatze
You're right.
Streeter Seidel
Hey, you're. So we did that interview with Jess.
Nate Bargatze
You're finish line, Nate. You get them all over the finish line.
Streeter Seidel
I don't know if I have. I. I'll break down. If a joke's not working, I'll, like, break it down for parts. So, like, it's like. Like, it'll just get. It'll just get sucked down to be like, I wanted it to be something, and then it just ends up being a line and something. So, I mean, I don't know if I really think in my head, like, something that I tried that was like, ah, this is good. And then it never. Because sometimes it gets through. Yeah. I don't know if I have a good answer. It's all gold. Yeah. It's all. I mean, one. I think I've talked to you about it. Maybe about the milk. Yeah. Buying milk publicly. In the history of my life, that line was. I tried to do a whole joke about buying milk and saying, no, you don't buy milk unless you're married or you have a mom in your house. And then. So it never stood on its own. And then it just got switched into one line when you were. So it's sometimes sad because you think it could be this two minute chunk, right?
Mikey Day
Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
And then you're like. It's. It's three seconds, two seconds maybe.
Nate Bargatze
Don't we have the people who just woke up? Like Narnia or the long. It's like the long hero's journey, and they arrive at their destination and then they knock on the castle wall and the person opens like, what's going on?
Mikey Day
It was like they had to climb a mountain to be trained by this master.
Nate Bargatze
Like killing five in the morning. And they're like, one second.
Mikey Day
Come back at 10.
Nate Bargatze
Who are you looking for?
Mikey Day
They're all like, I'm here to be trained. You know, that energy.
Nate Bargatze
Okay, one second.
Mikey Day
All right, well, look, now I'm feeling good about our ideas.
Nate Bargatze
You know what, Jesse? We need a direct line to you where we can call and you can give us your opinion.
Jesse David Fox
Sure. I mean, I have a phone number.
Streeter Seidel
I know.
Nate Bargatze
Oh, really? Yeah.
Streeter Seidel
You want just one number that only us three have. Yeah. Just for.
Jesse David Fox
I was imagining a special phone text to remember.
Streeter Seidel
It's more than that. We don't be associated with your other numbers.
Nate Bargatze
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Streeter Seidel
It's like orange. Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
It's in our office. You have one on your bus.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah.
Nate Bargatze
And you have one.
Streeter Seidel
If you pick up, you have one in a bag. Like the old cell phone bags. Yeah. Because you have to carry yours around. And then we can call Jesse, what do you think?
Nate Bargatze
Hard. No.
Streeter Seidel
Got it.
Nate Bargatze
Thank you.
Jesse David Fox
Look. Sounds great. All right. Thank you, guys.
Streeter Seidel
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Nate Bargatze
Thanks for watching and listening.
Jesse David Fox
That's it for this episode of Good One. Thank you for listening. I am Jesse David Fox, and you can follow me at essydavidfox. Good One's produced by myself, Jelani Carter and Anne Victoria Clarke. Gautam Shrigshin did our theme song, Goodwin's production of New York magazine. You can subscribe to the magazine@nymag.com pod buy my book, comedy book, wherever books are sold. Be back with new episodes soon. Have a good one.
Podcast Summary: Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
Episode: Nate Bargatze’s “Washington Dream” (with SNL’s Mikey Day and Streeter Seidell)
Release Date: December 24, 2024
Host: Jesse David Fox, Vulture Senior Editor
In this episode of Good One: A Podcast About Jokes, host Jesse David Fox delves into the intricacies of the “George Washington” sketch from Saturday Night Live (SNL). Joining him are Nate Bargatze, an acclaimed stand-up comedian and SNL host, along with SNL alum Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidell. The trio explores the genesis, development, and execution of the sketch, offering listeners an insider’s view into the creative process behind one of SNL’s memorable comedic pieces.
The episode kicks off with a clip of the “George Washington” sketch, featuring Nate Bargatze portraying the first President of the United States as he navigates the absurdities of establishing a new nation. The humor arises from Washington’s bewildering explanations of the country’s systems, such as weights and measures, and his interactions with a soldier who struggles to keep up with the illogical changes.
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After the clip, Jesse and the guests discuss how the “George Washington” sketch came to life. The initial idea sparked from Mikey Day and Streeter Seidell’s brainstorming sessions, influenced by their viewing of HBO’s John Adams. They aimed to create a character that could humorously highlight the nonsensical aspects of starting a new nation.
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Mikey Day and Streeter Seidell recount their collaborative efforts in refining the sketch. Initially, the concept was too abstract, focusing on Washington’s inaugural address without specific comedic elements. Through iterations, they introduced relatable and absurd elements like the confusion over measurement systems and the perplexing rules of sports, making the sketch more accessible and humorous.
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The guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of performing the sketch live on SNL. Nate Bargatze shares his insights on embodying George Washington, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the character’s stoicism while delivering the comedic lines. Streeter Seidell highlights the collaborative environment of SNL, where writers and performers work closely to polish sketches up until the live broadcast.
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Following the initial performance, the team reflects on the feedback and the necessary revisions to enhance the sketch. Mikey Day and Streeter Seidell explain how they pruned weaker jokes and introduced new elements to strengthen the comedic impact. This iterative process ensured that the sketch resonated well with both the live audience and viewers at home.
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The “George Washington” sketch received positive acclaim, with legendary figures like Tom Hanks praising Nate Bargatze’s portrayal. The guests discuss how the sketch has become a staple within SNL’s repertoire, admired for its clever writing and unique character portrayal. They also touch upon the potential for future iterations of the sketch, ensuring its place in SNL history.
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The conversation shifts to discussing sketches that didn’t land as expected. Streeter Seidell shares anecdotes about sketches like “Bebo” and the challenges of creating humor that resonates with the audience. Despite these setbacks, the team emphasizes the importance of perseverance and continuous refinement in comedy writing.
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Nate Bargatze, Mikey Day, and Streeter Seidell share memorable interactions with legendary comedians like Steve Martin and Martin Short. These stories highlight the camaraderie and mentorship within the comedy community, underscoring the mutual respect and inspiration drawn from established figures.
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The episode concludes with a “laughing round,” where guests share favorite jokes, sketches they admire, and memorable moments from their careers. This lighter segment provides a humorous close to the in-depth discussion, leaving listeners with a sense of the guests' comedic styles and personal anecdotes.
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Good One wraps up with Jesse David Fox thanking Nate Bargatze, Mikey Day, and Streeter Seidell for their insightful and entertaining conversation. The episode not only sheds light on the creative processes behind SNL sketches but also celebrates the collaborative spirit that fuels successful comedy.
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This episode offers a comprehensive look into the making of a successful SNL sketch, the dynamics of a comedy team, and the enduring impact of thoughtful writing and performance in comedy.