Carrie and Meg are diving deep into the Netflix documentary Crash, breaking down the disturbing and controversial case of Mackenzie Shirilla — the 17-year-old convicted of murder after driving her car into a building at 100 mph, killing her boyfriend Dom and friend Davion.

The hosts debate whether it was a split-second act of rage fueled by a toxic relationship and drug use, or something more calculated. They explore the black box evidence, her cellmate's TikTok revelations, her denied appeal, and the bigger questions around teen brain development, emotional immaturity, and whether age and mental health should factor into sentencing.

Plus, the ladies share their own personal connections to the story — and yes, there are strong opinions. Are you #TeamKenzie or #TeamNotKenzie?

Chapters:

0:00 Cold open – "If I can't have you, nobody will"

0:30 Welcome back & catching up

2:00 Mother's Day recaps

3:45 Introducing Netflix's Crash documentary

5:00 Who is Mackenzie Shirilla?

7:00 The night of the crash – body cam footage breakdown

9:00 Black box evidence & the 100 mph question

11:00 Shrooms, rage, and "If I can't have you…"

13:00 Was it premeditated? Life 360 & the road she knew

15:30 The cellmate's TikTok – zero remorse

17:00 Lie detectors & amnesia claims

19:00 Her sentencing: 15 to life, tried as an adult

21:00 Teen brain development & decision-making

23:30 Final verdict – Team Kenzie or Team Not Kenzie?

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