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Bob Wilkin
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Welcome to Grace in Focus. Today we're talking about John the Baptist. How he confronted the people of Israel with a message of repentance and baptism and remission of sins. But was his message mainly to individuals or to a nation? Let us consider this in the next few moments and we're glad you're with us. This is a ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society, which comes to you each weekday. And our email address is faithalone.org on that site you can find information about our magazine. It comes out six times per year. It is also called Grace in Focus and we feature some great authors and articles about our free grace position. You can have it. We want you to have it for free. The only caveat to that is that if you live outside of the United States, the 48 contiguous United States, you do have to pay the postage. Otherwise free. So sign up for it today@faithalone.org.
Philippe Sterling
And.
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Now with our discussion today, here are Bob Wilken and Philippe Sterling.
Philippe Sterling
We have a question, I think. Is it from Paul?
Bob Wilkin
Yes. Paul asks, I have a question about Luke, chapter three, verse three. Does this verse mean that John the Baptist was expecting people to renounce all their sins and once they did that, they would then be permitted to be baptized in the river so they could receive God's forgiveness? I guess that would be good to read Luke 3. 3.
Philippe Sterling
Yeah. Do you have that there?
Bob Wilkin
And he went into all the region around the Jordan preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Philippe Sterling
Okay. So it's important to recognize that, that both John the Baptist and Lord Jesus in their ministry said, repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. You've got that in Matthew 3. 4 and Matthew 4:17. That wasn't the beginning of Jesus ministry. Jesus ministry began earlier with the wedding at Cana and John chapter three. But in his public ministry, that was early in his public ministry. And those were calls for what we would call national repentance. What's the difference between national repentance and individual repentance?
Bob Wilkin
Well, national repentance, specifically focusing on the nation of Israel, deals with their being in harmony with God so the kingdom that was promised could be established.
Philippe Sterling
Right. Let's put it this way. Individually, there's only one requirement to be born again, right?
Bob Wilkin
Yes. And that is simply to believe the promise of everlasting life in Christ.
Philippe Sterling
But corporately, for the nation of Israel, that's not enough. Right. Let's say the majority of Israel at the time of Christ had believed in him, but they had been an unrepentant nation. They had been a nation in sinful practices, wicked ways, and they were not turning to the Lord. Now they didn't, as a nation believe in him, so I get that. But even if they had, there's that second condition of repentance, right? Right.
Bob Wilkin
They had to turn away from sinful patterns and to be obedient to the stipulations of the covenant with God that they had. And this was a national matter for the Messiah's kingdom to be established. And had that generation done that with John the Baptist, with Jesus and the apostles, Jesus still have died and risen from the dead.
Philippe Sterling
Right.
Bob Wilkin
And ascended to heaven.
Philippe Sterling
That was required.
Bob Wilkin
That was required. But then within the seven year period of the 70th week of Daniel, that would have been established. He would have returned and established the kingdom. Now the nations still would have suffered the persecution and all of that, but because they were in harmony with God, then all of the promises would have been fulfilled and. And Christ would have established a kingdom.
Philippe Sterling
Potentially in the first century.
Bob Wilkin
Right.
Philippe Sterling
Could have been as early as 40 AD. Yes, but because they did not, then we get 70 AD with the destruction of the temple, which Jesus had prophesied by the way, that there wouldn't be one stone left unturned. Also the death of over a million Jews. And also they were kicked out of the promised land until 1948.
Bob Wilkin
Yes, now they have to return. But Zechariah talks about a time yet to come where the nation will finally acknowledge the one whom they have pierced, and then he will return.
Philippe Sterling
And the one whom they've pierced who is returning is the Lord Jesus Christ. Yes, but at the end of the Tribulation, Israel will fulfill what it didn't do in the first century. That is, it will be a believing nation, so that all of the adult Jews will be believing in him. Any unbelieving adult Jews would have died during the Tribulation, but secondarily, they will all be calling on the name of the lord, like Romans 10:13 and Joel 2,32, they'll all be calling on the Lord in terms of corporate worship, because they're all going to be in fellowship with him, right?
Bob Wilkin
Yes.
Philippe Sterling
And so they'll meet that requirement. And so at the end of the Tribulation, he'll set foot on the Mount of Olives and he will destroy all the enemies of Israel at Armageddon.
Bob Wilkin
Yes. Now this could have happened in the first century had the end, the nation as a whole repented of sins and experiencing the cleansing, a cleansing for fellowship and communion with the Lord. And then even though persecuted, you know, still would have been preserved in some fashion and the return of Christ would have occurred.
Philippe Sterling
Okay, so coming Back to Luke 33, what was the purpose of John's baptism? We're told it was a baptism of repentance. But why did he baptize people? Because the prophets in the Old Testament for the most part, were not baptizing people. But here we have now this forerunner of the Messiah and he's baptizing people.
Bob Wilkin
So he is preparing for the Messiah.
Philippe Sterling
Isaiah 40.
Bob Wilkin
Isaiah 40. So it was to prepare a people to receive Christ and the kingdom and the kingdom.
Philippe Sterling
So ultimately this repentance was not some tangent. This was central to the kingdom coming.
Bob Wilkin
Absolutely.
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Philippe Sterling
We shouldn't just think John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus were only seeking to get individuals born again. Right. They were there to prepare the nation so that the nation would receive Messiah in repentance and faith and the kingdom would come.
Bob Wilkin
Yes. Especially as we look at the Gospel of Matthew, we do see the preaching of John the Baptist and then the preaching of Christ, which is repent and be ready.
Philippe Sterling
Right.
Bob Wilkin
And then in the sending forth of the apostles. And their first mission was to the house of Israel with a message of repentance?
Philippe Sterling
Absolutely. In fact, they were re offering the kingdom in the book of Acts early on. This is a dispensational perspective, of course. But had they have responded during the early preaching of the apostles, then the kingdom could have come, let's say in 50 or 60 or 65 AD. But because they didn't, it fell. Now let me give you a verse that relates to this. Matthew 12:41. Can you turn there? Matthew 12:41. This is where Jesus has been preaching in Israel and he's been calling upon the Jewish people to repent and they've been unresponsive to his ministry.
Bob Wilkin
And this is where Jesus says the men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it because they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.
Philippe Sterling
What happened? If you read Jonah, chapter three, Jonah comes in and says 40 days, and then comes destruction. Nineveh is going to be destroyed. All the people, men, women and children, they're all going to die in 40 days. What do they do?
Bob Wilkin
They repent on sackcloth and ashes and even on the animals themselves. And the king himself lays aside his robe, sits down in a pile of dust, and as a result, God relents of that destruction.
Philippe Sterling
Jonah 3:10 says that. It says because they turned from their wicked ways. So coming back to Paul's question, was he calling them to turn from all their sin? Well, he said renounce. Renounce is probably the wrong word, because renouncing your sins isn't quite the same as turning from them. They turned from their wicked ways. And it says God saw their works. Repentance is a work. And, and Israel needed to turn from its wicked ways. Now, fortunately, idolatry wasn't a major problem, or at least as major a problem at the time of Christ as it had been during much of Israel. Right?
Bob Wilkin
Yes. After the exile and everything, the Jews as a people turn away, it seemed, from idolatry, you know, for centuries. But yet, you know, where they're willing to acknowledge the their dependence on God and receive the promised Messiah as Isaiah had forecasted as Genesis 3:15 and all of that.
Philippe Sterling
And they were still a corrupt, wicked people. Even their religious leaders were seeking the acclaim of men. They were doing these long prayers so that people would be impressed. They were giving their money so people would be impressed.
Bob Wilkin
There was a great deal of economic corruption that was occurring where they, of course, Jesus cleansing the temple at the beginning of his ministry and then again at the end.
Philippe Sterling
Exactly. And that was what they needed to turn from all of these things. But here, here's my point. If you think of Matthew 12:41 implicitly, what the Lord Jesus is saying is, because you didn't repent in my preaching, you're going to experience what Nineveh didn't. You're going to be destroyed.
Bob Wilkin
Yes.
Philippe Sterling
And it wasn't going to be 40 days. It was going to be more like 40 years. But it was going to OCC. And that's what happened in AD 70. So I think it's important to recognize that Israel needed as a nation to be believing and repentant. And if they weren't, the kingdom was not going to come. And that will happen at the end of the tribulation. But we need to avoid the error which so many people make of saying so in order to be born again, you've got to repent and believe.
Bob Wilkin
Yeah. There's that distinction between believing for everlasting life and repentance and works for reward and for experiencing fellowship and harmony with God.
Philippe Sterling
That's on the individual level. But on the national level, if Israel does not repent, the kingdom's not going to come. And on the national level, we've seen this before. God didn't allow the Canaanites to be destroyed for 400 years because their sins were not yet filled up.
Bob Wilkin
And God is forbearing Second Peter not willing that any should perish. Have that destruction occur.
Philippe Sterling
Yeah, because he's very, very long suffering, very forbearing, very loving, very merciful, very gracious. Well, thanks so much Paul. Great question. You know, I love this issue of repentance. In fact, I have a book called Turn and the Power of repentance from Ezekiel 18 and Ezekiel 31 that expression turn and live occurs. Check it out if you get a chance. Go to faithalone.org of course there's a.
Bob Wilkin
Book by Zinn Hodges, Harmony with God.
Philippe Sterling
It's great, it's powerful. So you might check that book out as well. Well, thanks so much. And Philippe, what are we going to do?
Bob Wilkin
We're going to keep grace in focus.
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Bob Wilkin
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Episode: Did John the Baptist Command People to Repent of All Their Sins?
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Bob Wilkin
Guest: Philippe Sterling
Podcast: Grace in Focus – Grace Evangelical Society
In this focused 13-minute discussion, hosts Bob Wilkin and Philippe Sterling tackle a listener question regarding the scope and intent of John the Baptist’s call for repentance and baptism as recorded in Luke 3:3. The heart of the episode revolves around understanding the distinction between national and individual repentance, the requirements for Israel in relation to the arrival of the Kingdom, and clarifying common misconceptions about the role of repentance in personal salvation within Free Grace Theology.
On National Repentance:
"Even if they had [believed], there’s that second condition of repentance, right?... They had to turn away from sinful patterns and to be obedient to the stipulations of the covenant with God that they had.” – Bob Wilkin (03:29)
On Purpose of John’s Baptism:
“It was to prepare a people to receive Christ and the kingdom.” – Philippe Sterling (06:39)
On the Consequence of Unrepentance:
“Because you didn’t repent in my preaching, you’re going to experience what Nineveh didn’t. You’re going to be destroyed.” – Philippe Sterling (11:06)
On Repentance in Salvation:
“We need to avoid the error... of saying so in order to be born again, you’ve got to repent and believe.” – Philippe Sterling (11:38)
On God's Character:
“God is very, very long suffering, very forbearing, very loving, very merciful, very gracious.” – Philippe Sterling (12:16)
The tone is instructional and exploratory, blending theological seriousness with pastoral encouragement. Bob and Philippe engage deeply with Scripture and Free Grace doctrine, emphasizing clarity between national and individual requirements, and lovingly caution against common theological confusion regarding repentance and salvation.
John the Baptist’s call to repentance and baptism was primarily a national call to prepare Israel to receive Christ and the promised Kingdom—not a demand for individual sinless perfection as a condition for personal salvation. Salvation remains a matter of personal faith, while repentance—particularly national repentance—is about corporate restoration, preparedness for the Kingdom, and experiencing God’s promises on a grander scale.