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Sam Marr
The following is a listener supported ministry from the Grace Evangelical Society.
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Philippe Sterling
Do you enjoy worshiping the Lord? How many different ways are there to do it? What does it mean to worship the Lord in spirit and in truth? We thank you friend for joining us here on Grace in Focus. And as you just heard, we're going to be talking about worship on this episode. Grace in Focus is the radio broadcast and podcast ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society. Find us@faithalone.org we have an online seminary called Grace Evangelical Seminary. It's free if you maintain a 3.0 average and you can study and earn an M. Div. Degree. Find out more, go through the application process. Get ready to study with us when we start the next semester. Find out everything you need to know@faithalone.org and now with today's discussion, here are Sam Marr and Philippe Sterling.
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Host/Interviewer
Philippe, we have a question today about worship and I think you have the question. So who is asking?
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Sam Marr
This will be from Mark and she, also a couple. And they say I've been wrestling for years with this concept of worshiping God in spirit and in truth. And I am not a very emotional person and I believed and have been following Christ. But what in your opinion does worshiping in spirit and truth look like for someone like me who's not overtly emotional in worship?
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Host/Interviewer
That's a question near and dear to my heart because I've felt like that most of my life of being.
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Sam Marr
I don't.
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Host/Interviewer
Not unemotional, but maybe not expressive. And especially when it came to, in high school I went to lots of youth events as part of my church and a lot of those were kind of like big worship nights or rallies or revival type things. Some of that in college too. And I didn't have the same experience that a lot of other people did where that was like the ecstatic moment. I felt God is really real because of the music and the dancing and that stuff. And so for a while I felt the same way. I was like, well, do I really know how to worship God? Because these people seem very excited and very emotional and in tears at these songs. And I'm just kind of standing with my hands in my pockets. So I need an answer to this question too, Philippe. This will be a good one.
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Philippe Sterling
Yeah.
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Sam Marr
Yes, of course. You know, worshiping in spirit and truth. That was a conversation that Jesus had with the Samaritan woman in John chapter four. Of course, his, his focus, you know, was simply saying, you know, I'm dig concerning the gift and the giver. He was a Giver, who gives everlasting life and living water the message of life, telling you, if you were to ask, I will give you that message. And you could believe and have everlasting life. To summarize. But then he goes on to say, no, God is looking for those who will indeed worship him in spirit and in truth. Now, the application of that, you know, does that mean that we have to be very emotional in our worship, otherwise it's not worshiping in spirit and in truth. And of course not. God tells us really what is involved in worshiping in spirit and in truth. And part of that deals with some instructions even that he gave that Peter gives out in his letter. In First Peter, chapter two, verses four and five, we read this. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected and did by man, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones. And here you know, all who believe the promise of Jesus for everlasting life become living stones who are added to the building of the church as stones. And you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. So we, the church, are a spiritual house, and we ought to offer up spiritual sacrifices. Now, what may some of those spiritual sacrifices be? And in the book of Hebrews, we read of two of them in particular, and there are several others too. But In Hebrews, chapter 13, verse 15, we read, Therefore, by him, by Jesus, through Jesus, let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God that is the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to his name. And then verse 16. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. So a sacrifice of praise, that is with our lips, that is to our words we share with each other as we gather together as believers what good things God has done for us. And we, we give thanks for him that's worshiping, right?
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Host/Interviewer
And that, that's the part that can be done in song form. So this could be, you know, we see in Psalms all throughout where we lift up our voices and there's all kinds of instruments mentioned. And you had mentioned before we started about an exodus when they crossed the Red Sea, the women taking up tambourines and dancing. So those are all forms of that kind of praise worship. But then what are examples of the second kind of worship mentioned in Hebrews?
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Sam Marr
And the second kind, it says to share, to do good. And now within the community of believers, that will mean, you know, where there's a need, you know, for fellow believer. We certainly Share of out of the abundance that we have to to help them. James also talks about this. You know, if we have the means by which to help a brother in need, by all means we shall do so. Not just say, go, be warm, be fed, but share. And also that deals with even the water community that we're part of in which we live. If we were to seek to do good to all men, but especially to the household of faith, as Paul says in Galatians chapter six as well. And that's worship, that's doing good. And beyond that, in Philippians chapter four, you know, when Paul talks about the gifts more than once that the Philippians had sent to him to enable him to carry out his his ministry, he in writing to them his thanksgiving, he says, by what you have done, God will abundantly give beyond that to you in this life, in the life to come, and says, for what such sacrifices, God is pleased too. So the financial gifts that we give out for those who are engaged in sharing the message off live, those who are engaged in making disciples, is spiritual worship. It is worshiping in spirit, in and in truth, even the message of life itself. In Romans 16, Paul talks about the Gentiles. He's offering the Gentiles as a sacrifice, a spiritual sacrifice to God. So those of whom we share the message of life, who come to believe, are part of our offering to God, also a part of our spiritual worship. But as we gather together, as you also mentioned the Psalms, we have the example of how they the Hebrews worshiped. And many of the Psalms, you know, certainly deal with that.
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Philippe Sterling
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Sam Marr
As you also mentioned in the Psalms, we have the example of how the Hebrews worship in many of the Psalms, you know, certainly deal with that. But that's taken up in the church too, where we're to minister to each other. Paul tells us in Ephesians 5 and then again in Colossians 3. But we have psalms and hymns and spiritual songs singing and making melody in our hearts to the Lord. And it can be done in a settled way by some of us in a more exuberant way, perhaps by others. But neither the exuberance of it or the lack of exuberance of it is indicative of the spiritual aspect or the truth of it. And in some contexts, dance. It was certainly part of Jewish worship. Is it all right for believers to. To hop up and down in praise to God in the sense of dance? I. I wouldn't forbid it, you know, in an appropriate cont. Text. Like you said, I'm not as exuberant in my worship, you know, as. As that too. But that's not what the scriptures is really talking about, the kind of spiritual sacrifice. Our worship in spirit and truth is simply in giving our praise to God. Public praise, you know, certainly singing our lifting up our voices in song in worship. And that's part of most worship services now to have a portion of time, you know, to just singing some newer songs that are composed, sometimes just putting the psalms you to music and singing those. All of that always are. We minister to each other. But it's the content of those songs also which are important, not just a meaningless repetition. You know, I don't think we have to say a single song of praise, you know, I thank you Lord, I thank you Lord, a hundred times, you know, in the song. But we to compose hymns that are substantial also in their content. And that's part of the truth. We worship in truth.
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Host/Interviewer
And so the what we're saying and what I'm hearing you say after outlining all that scripture is the worship that we do in church for that short period of time before the sermon and then maybe a couple songs after the sermon. That is worship and that's good and that's pleasing to the Lord. But we shouldn't pigeonhole that as the way we worship God. Everything we do, it sounds like just about for the Lord is worship. So you walk out of church and then you shoulder one another's burdens. That's worshiping the Lord. And when you care for the orphan and the widow, you care for those who are less fortunate, don't have resources. When a brother comes to you and asks for food, you don't just say, be warmed and be filled, but you clothed him and you feed him. That's worshiping the Lord. And in that verse in Hebrews, is it not kind of implied there that that is the greater form of worship? God is well pleased.
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Sam Marr
Such sacrifices. God is well pleased. Exactly.
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Host/Interviewer
So it seems to me like what God desires. It's not that he doesn't desire us to praise him with our lips and through song and dance and, you know, joyful worship in that way verbal. But it seems like even more so, he wants us to praise him and worship him through following His Word and caring for specifically one another's Because God doesn't need us to give him food and clothes so that he can be warm and be filled. But his other children, some of them need that. And so how much more joyful is he going to be when we take care of one another than just say, you know, I'm just going to sing and praise and that's how I worship the Lord. But then the rest of my day I'm going to go about, you know, I'll keep singing, but I'm not really going to do anything. I'm not going to change my ways.
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Sam Marr
In fact, I mentioned one last spiritual sacrifice and that's out of Romans 12:1 2 Brethren, in light of the mercies of God, present your bodies a holy and living sacrifice to the Lord. And do not be conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. For such again is an acceptable worship to God. So just the presentations of our lives is that of our entire lives to the Lord is a spiritual sacrifice is a worship too, that expresses itself in all those different ways that you summarized.
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Host/Interviewer
I think that's a good word. And I think having that mindset, the understanding that everything we do for the Lord is worship, I think that's going to help us keep grace.
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Philippe Sterling
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Sam Marr
The proceeding has been a listener supported ministry from the Grace Evangelical Society.