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Bob Wilkin
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What are the definitions of faith and belief? Is there really any difference between these two English words? Why do translations of the Bible use one word or the other also? What if you believe something based on seeing it? Is it then not belief? Is it no longer faith because you saw it? Welcome, friend. This is Grace in Focus. We're glad you're with us today. And this is a ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society. We're located in North Texas and we have a website. We'd love for you to learn more about us there. And our website is a place where you can learn about our magazine, also called Grace and Focus. And you can sign up or subscribe for it. It is a free magazine, beautifully done, full color, great articles, full length magazine. And as stated, it is free only except if you live outside of the 48 contiguous United States. You, you do have to pay the postage. It is a great deal of physical magazine that you can receive and read called Grace in Focus. Sign up today@faithalone.org now with today's question and answer discussion, here are Bob Wilkin and Ken Yates.
Bob Wilkin
Bob, I think we got a great question and it deals with the difference between believe and faith. This question is asked by Marty and here's his question. He says, I've been a follower of GES for many years, but was surprised to see that you have the same definition for believe and faith and that that definition is the conviction that something is true. And then the question is, do you see any difference between those two words, believe and faith? An expression I've heard is that I'll believe it when I see it. If I believe something after seeing it, is it faith?
Ken Yates
That's a phenomenal question. I love it. I hear this a lot. Well, let's begin at the top. The words believe in faith. Okay, in Greek, what is the verb I believe? What is that in Greek, Ken?
Bob Wilkin
Pistuo.
Ken Yates
And what is the noun faith?
Bob Wilkin
Pistis. So obviously those are related. Or what will we say? Cognates.
Ken Yates
Right, Cognates. Both start with the letters P, I, S, T, pistuo and pistis. They're called cognates. That means one is the verbal equivalent of the other. Pistuo is the verbal equivalent of the noun pistis. Well, why is it then that in English we translate one believe and the other faith? Why isn't it believe and belief? Do you know the answer to that, Ken?
Bob Wilkin
Well, my guess is that one is a verb and one is a noun.
Ken Yates
But they could be belief. Belief is a noun, right. Why didn't we say, and belief comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God?
Bob Wilkin
Yeah, That's a good question, for a.
Ken Yates
Man is justified by belief and not by works of the law. Why do we say faith?
Bob Wilkin
That's a great question.
Ken Yates
I have an answer for you. You ready?
Bob Wilkin
I'm ready.
Ken Yates
Art Farstad, who was a linguist, what you call polyglot, someone who learned many languages. He used to have his devotions on a rotating basis between Greek and Hebrew, French, Norwegian, because he was Norwegian, and I think he used the Latin Vulgate. He had about seven different languages he could do devotions in. And he wrote an article for us. You can go to faithalone.org and he said it's because of the words. Have you ever heard of Anglo Saxon, Ken?
Bob Wilkin
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Ken Yates
I thought Anglo Saxon meant a white European. Right.
Bob Wilkin
I did, too.
Ken Yates
It doesn't. The Saxons were one group of people. The Anglos were another group of people, and they're the people who colonized what we call the United Kingdom, the Anglos and the Saxons. And so what happened is some words in English come from the Anglo language and some words come from the Saxon language. Well, believe comes from one of the two, and faith comes from the other. And so it's just an anomaly that we don't have believe and belief. The King James translators could have said belief instead of faith, but they chose the word faith. So in answer to Marty's question, really, the words believe and faith are saying the same thing.
Bob Wilkin
So it'd be convinced that something is true.
Ken Yates
So let's take his question. Let's say, for example, that you see someone robbing a bank. Does that mean you don't believe it?
Bob Wilkin
Well, I would say you believe it because you're convinced it's true. And one of the main reasons is you see it.
Ken Yates
Okay, so would that be faith, or would that be something else?
Bob Wilkin
No, I would say that that is faith.
Ken Yates
Right. So if I saw Jesus risen from the dead and I believed he rose from the dead, wouldn't I have faith that he rose from the dead?
Bob Wilkin
Yes. So you believe it and you have faith. Same thing.
Ken Yates
Okay, here's something to keep in mind. Not everybody who saw the miracles of Jesus was convinced that he was the Messiah. Right?
Bob Wilkin
Right.
Ken Yates
In fact, some of the people who saw the miracles of Jesus evidently believed that they weren't really miracles, and others.
Bob Wilkin
Believe that they were done by Satan.
Ken Yates
Probably deceptive, but they didn't believe even though they saw, Remember Jesus. After Thomas sees Jesus risen from the dead. And he says, blessed are you, but blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe. Thomas believed when he saw Jesus nail pierced hands and his side and he touched him. He was convinced Jesus rose from the dead. Of course, he was already born again. But that's when he believed he had risen from the dead. It wasn't enough for him to that the other apostles told him, we've seen the Lord. That's why he's sometimes called doubting Thomas. But the point is, Jesus said, blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe. It's all belief. It's believing whether we see or whether we don't see. It's believing whether we accept the testimony of someone else or we see for ourselves.
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Ken Yates
I'll believe it if I see it. That's not necessarily true. There's lots of people who've seen things and don't believe it.
Bob Wilkin
And the other issue that Marty brings up is when it says, now faith is the evidence of things not seen. I would say to that. What the author of Hebrews has in mind is he's talking about specifically believing in rewards in the world to come and nobody has seen those.
Ken Yates
That certainly fits the rest of Hebrews 11. Right, because the whole of the chapter is about the Hebrew hall of fame and about the rewards that all of these great believers of the Old Testament who were faithful to the Lord like Moses, was looking forward to a reward. Abraham was looking to a city.
Bob Wilkin
And at the end of the chapter, he says, they did not receive what was promised them. So none of them saw these things, but they were convinced that it's true.
Ken Yates
Paul in 2nd Corinthians 5 and verse 7, he says, we walk by faith, not by sight. Well, he's not saying there's nothing in the Christian life that we see.
Bob Wilkin
Right.
Ken Yates
What he's saying is if you go back to chapter four and verse 11, that we don't see the kingdom yet, we don't see righteousness in our world yet, but we walk by faith in what is to come.
Bob Wilkin
We're convinced that it's true, even though none of us have seen it.
Ken Yates
And so there are some things which we haven't seen yet and we believe, but there are other things which we have seen and we believe. Like, I believe I'm married to my wife. I've seen her and I believe I'm married. And it's not a lack of faith to say, because I see her, I don't have faith in her. No, because I see her, I do have faith in her.
Bob Wilkin
Yeah. And I think another point that you made that was really good was what was it that Thomas believed when he saw it wasn't that he believed he had eternal life in Jesus, he already believed that it was the resurrection. Did he bodily rise from the dead? He was not convinced that was true until he saw him, but when he saw him, he was convinced that it was true and he believed it. He had belief. I found that discussion by Art about the Anglos of the Saxons fascinating. He had faith, but it's really saying the same thing. It's just a different word that's being used.
Ken Yates
Right. I love the question from Marty because there's a whole lot of people in Christianity who want to say there's a difference between believing and having faith. And under this system, you don't really have faith unless you don't see it.
Bob Wilkin
Right.
Ken Yates
So in this system, what God's calling us for in order to be justified is to believe something we can't see. If that were true, how did Paul get justified on the road to Damascus?
Bob Wilkin
Yeah, he saw the Lord.
Ken Yates
He saw him face to face, and that's when he came to faith. We don't say that's when he came to believe, although that's true too. We say that's when he came to faith. So faith is being convinced that something is true. We, whether we see it or whether we don't.
Bob Wilkin
And even in the Gospel of John, Bob, the miracles were something you could see so that you would believe.
Ken Yates
Right. John 20, 30. Many other signs Jesus did in the presence of his disciples. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, that by believing you may have life in his name. The believing comes from the seeing the signs. In our case, we didn't see the signs, but we read about the signs.
Bob Wilkin
But there were people there who did see them and believed. And obviously there's things that we see that we believe that others don't see and yet they are convinced that it is true. Millions of examples of that. There are many things that I have not seen that I believe. And the people who did see them believe them. Well, we both have faith. We both believe. Some of us saw it, some of us didn't.
Ken Yates
Well, let me give you one final example. I saw the lunar landing in 1969. I was alive in 1969 and I saw pictures from the moon of people getting off the rover. What was it called? It was called the Land. What was the landing craft called? I can't remember. But they got off and said one small step. I think that was it.
Bob Wilkin
The Eagle. The Eagle landed.
Ken Yates
The Eagles landed. And wasn't it Armstrong that said one small step?
Bob Wilkin
Right.
Ken Yates
And one giant step for mankind? I saw that with my own eyes. There were a whole lot of other people that have seen that too. And lots of people don't believe it. Yeah, they say that was a Hollywood.
Bob Wilkin
Production and there's people who have not seen it and believe it because faith.
Ken Yates
Is simply being persuaded or convinced. So great question Marty and thank you all for listening and let's all keep grace in focus.
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Bob Wilkin
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This episode addresses a vital theological question submitted by a listener: Is there a difference between “believing” and “faith”? Bob Wilkin and Ken Yates discuss the definitions, biblical usage, and underlying theology of these terms, focusing on their connection to assurance of salvation, how translation impacts our understanding, and whether seeing something removes faith from the equation.
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (02:26): “Pistuo is the verbal equivalent of the noun pistis. Well, why is it then that in English we translate one ‘believe’ and the other ‘faith’? Why isn’t it ‘believe’ and ‘belief’?”
Notable Quote:
Bob Wilkin (04:53): “So in answer to Marty’s question, really, the words believe and faith are saying the same thing.”
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (05:17): “If I saw Jesus risen from the dead and I believed he rose from the dead, wouldn’t I have faith that he rose from the dead?”
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (05:52): “Jesus said, blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe. It’s all belief. It’s believing whether we see or whether we don’t see.”
Notable Quote:
Bob Wilkin (08:11): “At the end of the chapter, [Hebrews] says, they did not receive what was promised them. So none of them saw these things, but they were convinced that it’s true.”
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (08:48): “It’s not a lack of faith to say, because I see her, I don’t have faith in her. No, because I see her, I do have faith in her.”
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (10:43): “The believing comes from the seeing the signs. In our case, we didn’t see the signs, but we read about the signs.”
Notable Quote:
Ken Yates (12:23): “Faith is simply being persuaded or convinced.”
Belief and faith, scripturally and linguistically, are identical in meaning: being convinced of truth. Whether someone comes to faith through seeing, hearing, or reading, the essence is conviction, not the absence of evidence or sight.
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