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Paul Jamison
Hello and welcome to the green industry podcast, your go to guide for building a more profitable and thriving lawn care and landscaping business. Your host Paul Jamison is the author of five best selling books including Cut that grass and make that cash and his latest level up your money, all available on Amazon and Audible. Now get ready for more expert insights and practical strategies to boost your business and level up your life. Here's Paul Jamison.
Podcast Host / Narrator
All right, welcome to Louisville, Kentucky where
Cornell Mack
we just broke a Guinness World records. Cornell Mack, my special guest today from Pennsylvania.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Hey man, thanks for having me.
Cornell Mack
That was a lot of fun.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
It was for sure. And I guess I was the MC to your laugh a little bit. You know, I know what I was doing.
Cornell Mack
Yeah, he threw in a little Pittsburgh Steelers jab at me and.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah. And you came right back with the.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Well, I got no, I got much
Cornell Mack
to work with sympathy but shout outs to Relco. So they wanted to showcase their engine against real life conditions and they couldn't have, they couldn't have picked a more epic day because it rained. So you had wet grass, tall wet grass. How did the engine do and what was the result?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
It did amazing. I mean I wish that the people watching could or if you're listening that you could see this, but the grass really was over 6 inches in some places and they brought it down to under 2 inches with one pass. No double cutting. And Haley did a great job cutting that grass and making some cash. I guess it will cutting that grass and setting records. Yeah.
Cornell Mack
Guinness world record.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah, for sure. In 14 minutes and 51 seconds.
Cornell Mack
And we're talking an American football field which is 120 yards because you got 100 yards end zone to end zone. But as we know, end zones are 10 yards.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yep.
Cornell Mack
So what's that field? Purdue or one of them are painted weird where people like get confused.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah, I don't know but I, it's not the Canada one. Don't get it confused with the 30 yard end zone.
Cornell Mack
Yeah. So you got, you got 120 yards and how far is a football field across?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
53 yards and I think 7 inches or something like that. Yeah.
Cornell Mack
So she went, took about 31, 32 passes. She just went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And the adjudicator, that guy was intimidating. He was, he was, he had all his different outfits. Yeah, he's wearing a vest and had a tape measure and all kind of statistics. They don't play around with that Guinness World Records.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
No. And I gotta give Haley her props, man. We, we got to try that lawnmower after the thing was over. And me personally, I've only used a sit down mower one time ever.
Cornell Mack
I'm.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
I'm a stand on guy. Yeah. Yeah. And so when I did my three point turn using the mower, I was like, wow, she really did a great job. Based off of the crap job that I did, she was zipping around on that thing.
Cornell Mack
How she got on the mower is Relco had a contest where hundreds of people applied to be the person who got to attempt this world record. So she just pitched her video of why they should choose her and being a woman. I think there was. Some people are like, you know. Anyway, I was, I was hearing it up a conversation in the back. She did so good. She definitely, I mean she would outmo most but any. She was just excellent on the mower. Her turns, her, her lines were straight. She, she can mow with the best of them.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah. She was serious too. She got some guns on her triceps.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Yeah.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
She was out there ripping it for sure.
Cornell Mack
Yeah. So the, the Guinness World Record after some suspense.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah. That was crazy. We was wondering, I mean the dude was like, you got to get the cameraman here. We was like, huh? And then he had to go around to different locations to check. He had this little like measuring stick to make sure that the grass was where he needed to be. Then he went into a tent, changed his clothes, he went from a vest to a blazer and then he came out with a certificate and all of that. It was just cool to get to. I've seen that stuff on tv, Paul, and I've been, you know, when I was a kid looking at that Guinness World Book of World Records. But to get to see it happen in person was really cool.
Cornell Mack
Yeah. Fantastic. Well, we're in Louisville, Kentucky, which is famous for something else, the Equip Expo. And you have a big event at the Equip Expo. So tell us, tell us kind of the history of your event and what you guys got going on this year.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
So this event within the event. Yeah, it's called the Win in Life meetup. And to be honest, it was inspired by my first ever year. Come in here. I went to what was then the GIE Rally. Posted by our friend Naylor Talia Farrow. And when I left there, I Just left with feeling this energy because the whole atmosphere was just alive there. So when I went home back to Pittsburgh, I wanted to have that, too. So I started having meetups locally in Pittsburgh just to get the people around so that we could raise the bar for everyone. Because my first year, people were charging $35, and so I had a meetup to be like, yo, we need to raise the bar. We need to be charging 50, 55, 60. And that was kind of how it all started. And then those were doing so well in Pittsburgh that I just decided, let's do one down here at Equip Expo. And so we did one. The first year, it was actually this kid named Troy, me and my friend Cedric. And 25 people came, and I was, like, blown away because no one even knew who I was. Not that the event is even about me, Paul, because it's about the people that go. And so 25 people showed up. Keith Calvis and Blake Albertson were two of the people that I was, like, admired from the Internet. But they showed up, and I was like, oh, we're just going to do this thing for real next year. I rented out a bowling alley, and 180 people came to that one. In 2023, 2024, we had 200. I think 24 people came to that one. And then last year it went crazy, and we had 379 people show up.
Cornell Mack
Wow. So it's back at Verdant Lanes this year on October 21, 2026.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yep, yep, yep. And we got three games. We. It's a. It's a fun, family friendly atmosphere. You come, you can bowl, we provide food for you. There's a cash bar available if. If that's what you. If that's what you're into. But then we also play games there. So it's a. It's a lot of camaraderie that goes on. We got three games. We do the Strike Challenge, which was sponsored by Crest last year. We have the rock paper scissor tournament, and we also have the best dress contest, which was won by our boy Pookie last year, Lamont Hairston.
Equip Expo Promoter
Real quick, before we move on, if
Equip Expo Announcer
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Paul Jamison
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Cornell Mack
That's great. Let's play a little rock, paper, scissors. Best of.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
I think you beat me last time too.
Cornell Mack
Yeah, you wanna do best of seven, Best of five or best of three?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
It's your show. What you want?
Cornell Mack
I'm an NBA guy.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
All right. Game seven. Game seven.
Cornell Mack
So how do you.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
This is how we do it too.
Cornell Mack
Yeah, you show us the rules.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
So it during the event we do the rock, paper, scissor tournament. So a single elimination. So you get to the final four, then the final four is best out of three and then the championship is best out of seven. So it's just rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Cornell Mack
So.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
So rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Cornell Mack
Okay.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
All right.
Cornell Mack
All right. So we're do best of seven and.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
And he beat me last time, so. Yeah, I think we only did best of three last time too.
Cornell Mack
Yeah. All right, you ready?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yep.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Cornell Mack
Let me make sure this is filming one nothing.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Home court advantage. We are live, baby.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Let's go one nothing.
Cornell Mack
Let's go one zero lead. You know what the statistics are once you go one up and that's the
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
seven, there's no statistics for the one nothing. It's like oh and two or. Oh and three or three and one. Those are when the statistics.
Cornell Mack
The caps came back from 3:1 in the NBA Finals. Yeah, you still got a chance.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
We got.
Podcast Host / Narrator
You only got one game before.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Let's go.
Cornell Mack
All right, well, I gotta think what I'm gonna do.
Podcast Host / Narrator
All right. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, he's a smart guy. Smart guy.
Cornell Mack
I need to think here.
Paul Jamison
What?
Cornell Mack
All right, so. Oh, yeah, we got people listening on audio.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah, can't be waiting. Let's Go.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Ah, tied up, tied up.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
One, one, tied up.
Cornell Mack
But the audio don't know what's going on because they can't hear.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
That's why you got to watch. That's why I always say you got to come watch when this is on the audio podcast.
Cornell Mack
Yeah, we're on YouTube.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
That's why y' all gotta watch on YouTube.
Cornell Mack
Industry podcast with Paul Jamis on YouTube, which has been blowing up, by the way. We've been getting a lot of views over there.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Oh, yeah?
Cornell Mack
I mean, I think so. And then on Facebook. I'm talking like 40 million views a month on Facebook. Order your 50 million.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
That's crazy. Yeah, I never done nothing like that.
Cornell Mack
All right, so one. One.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
One series here.
Cornell Mack
All right.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Wayfair Announcer
Ah.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Two. No, he went with the rock. I went with the paper. My God,
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
these guys are over here. The home team got the tent. They over there.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Two. Oh,
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
The adjudicator.
Cornell Mack
Oh. If you guys are listening on audio, you gotta tune into the video of this. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Almost two. Nothing. It started raining.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
You're up, Two, one. He's cheating already.
Cornell Mack
Are you sure? Where'd you get a win?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
The second one. What you talking about?
Cornell Mack
What'd you get?
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
You went paper. I went scissors.
Cornell Mack
Oh, yeah. Two, one. We got some rain here.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Paul's distracted.
Cornell Mack
That's what you get for making fun of me. The Lord sent some rain on him.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
He's washing you clean.
Cornell Mack
He sends the rain on just. And the unjust.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Ah. 2, 2, 2, 2, 2. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Three times. No.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
3, 2.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, Scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissor, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Yeah, let's go. Three, three, three. For the game. For the game. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Cornell Mack
I gotta think what I'm gonna do. See, this is pretty easy.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Hey, I swear to you, every time I come on this show, I don't know if this is my fourth or fifth appearance. I don't know. Ever since I follow. Ever since I followed Paul around. Yeah, he. How's he supposed to know? He got a thousand episodes.
Cornell Mack
Like 1700. All right, I look forward to interviewing you. That was last year.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Fault. All right. Rocks, paper, scissors, shoot.
Paul Jamison
Ah.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, we tied again.
Cornell Mack
3.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Three series for the win. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Let's go. Let's go. I was gonna go. I was gonna go. Paper towel, let's go.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
I got caught.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Let's go.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
I'm down.02.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Now let's go.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Yeah.
Podcast Host / Narrator
Yeah. This is a podcast, audio only. And people can't see what we're picking.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
This is why you gotta watch. This is why you gotta watch.
Cornell Mack
I just won four three.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Four three.
Cornell Mack
And it looks like we got they coming to take, guys coming.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Well, well, Paul, before we go, every Monday night, 9pm eastern and Wednesday night, 9pm Eastern, I go live on YouTube to help people go out there and win in life. Just like the dog on meetup, it's all about helping other people go out there and find the wins in their life. And so you should be there Monday night, part of the live audience. Paul's there from time to time and we love you.
Cornell Mack
We appreciate you haven't had me on in a while.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Wish nothing but because he goes to sleep, he goes to sleep at 8:30. Yeah, we're good.
Cornell Mack
We're good. Yeah, yeah, we're just, we're just wrapping it up.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Oh, okay.
Cornell Mack
So thank you guys for tuning in from Louisville. We hope you'll come and join US in Louisville, October 20th through 23rd, 2026, for the this year's Equip Expo. We're all going to be back, Lord willing. So great time. So hope to see you there, Cornell. It's always fun competing with you.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Absolutely, brother. But you won. Hey, I'm, I'm okay.
Cornell Mack
Let's go.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
He did the Tiger Woods.
Cornell Mack
We gotta get this. You guys had a little bit of fun?
Equip Expo Promoter
Oh, yeah, it's always fun beating Cornell. Mack and rock, paper, scissors.
Paul Jamison
Shoot.
Cornell Mack
You gotta out think him.
Equip Expo Promoter
I'm thinking, what's he gonna do? He's gonna lay down the scissor. I'm gonna get him with the rock. You gonna put down the paper? I'm gonna get the scissor. You gonna do the scissor? I'm gonna get the rock. You know what I mean? And so anyway, that was a good, good game there. Well, folks, hopefully you'll have some fun with us. Louisville, Kentucky, October 20th through 23rd, 2026. Equip X boats, the largest trade show in our industry. Make sure you save yourself some money when you get your tickets with the promo code Paul. That will get your tickets down.
Guest (Possibly Haley's Friend or Co-host)
Half.
Equip Expo Promoter
50% off with promo external code Paul. So when you're registering, it asks you what is the promo code? Type in, Paul. P, A, U, L. That will catch your tickets off.
Cornell Mack
Half.
Equip Expo Promoter
Half off. I think that's how you say that. Half off. 50%. I used to say 50% and then people thought I was saying 15%. I was like, no, no, no, 50%. Like half off. You get half off if the ticket's $25. You get your ticket for $12 and 50 cents. If you use a promo code Paul. If it's $30, you can get to take it for only $15 with promo code Paul. My first year, I didn't know that. And there actually wasn't a promo code Paul Back in 2017, my first year. So I paid full price at the door. I just waited the last minute and I had to wait in this long line and pay full price. And there's thousands of people that will
Equip Expo Announcer
do that this year.
Equip Expo Promoter
Thousands. It's, it's crazy. You don't have to be them. You can get your tickets now for half off. And then when you get to the show, you don't have to wait in a long line to get your ticket. You can already get your ticket. Like you get it in advance. They'll, they'll email you your virtual QR code thing. And then when you get to Louisville, they have kiosks all over town that you type in the, the QR code or your, you got different ways you can confirm, but then it will print out your actual badge. And then when you get to the Kentucky acquisition center, you just walk right through. You're already, you're already ready to go and you skip the line and you save money when you register the promo code Paul. So hopefully you'll join us in Kentucky in Louisville for Equip Expo 2026, October 20 through 2023. Again, registration is open, tickets are on sale, and you can get half off your ticket with the promo code Paul. So hope to see you soon at Louisville, Kentucky for Equip Expo.
Paul Jamison
Hey, it's Marty, producer of the Green Industry podcast. This episode is over, but check the episode notes for links to products and services that you heard about during the episode. And thanks for listening.
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Episode Title: Cornell Mack on the Win at Life Event & Prepping for Equip Expo
Host: Paul Jamison
Guest: Cornell Mack (plus unnamed co-host/guest involved in event discussion)
Date: May 29, 2026
Recording Location: Louisville, Kentucky
This episode captures the excitement of Louisville during a special green industry event: the setting of a new Guinness World Record for mowing and the anticipation leading up to the 2026 Equip Expo. Paul Jamison talks with Cornell Mack and another recurring guest about the record-breaking mow, the spirit of lawn care community, and plans for the "Win in Life" meetup at Equip Expo. The mood is lively and fun, with plenty of banter and actionable wisdom for lawn and landscape professionals.
On the Record Event:
On Community Uplift:
Spirit of the Event:
On Making the Most of Equip Expo:
| Time | Segment | Details | |------------|-------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:57–04:33| Guinness World Record Recap | Overview of the mow, Relco’s event, Haley’s performance, adjudicator details | | 04:33–07:03| Win in Life Meetup at Equip Expo | Origins, growth, activities for 2026 | | 08:34–13:35| Rock, Paper, Scissors Tournament (on-podcast) | Fun and camaraderie, mirrors event games atmosphere | | 14:22–17:31| Equip Expo Promo + Registration Tips | Details on tickets, codes, logistics, fair warnings about lines | | 13:43–14:09| Cornell’s Weekly Live Show Plug | Mon & Wed, 9PM ET on YouTube, focused on encouragement and education |
For more, check out Green Industry Podcast on YouTube or join Cornell's live streams for ongoing education and support!