No Eyes, One Eye, Two Eyes, Three Eyes (Part II)

Summary

Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest – Episode: "No Eyes, One Eye, Two Eyes, Three Eyes (Part II)"

Host and Overview

In this captivating second installment of "No Eyes, One Eye, Two Eyes, Three Eyes," hosted by bestselling author Adam Gidwitz, the narrative deepens as the four sisters navigate the perils of their enchanted world. Engaging young listeners, Adam masterfully intertwines the classic Grimm fairy tale elements with modern twists, while interactive discussions with child participants enrich the storytelling experience.

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Story Continuation and Escalation

Rescue from the Dragon’s Cave (03:06 - 07:56)

The episode picks up with Three Eyes stealthily approaching the dragon's nest to rescue her captured sister, Two Eyes. Adam narrates vividly:

“The great dragon, with his emerald and blue scales, his claws as large as dogs and his fangs as tall as men, was curled up in his giant nest.” (04:13)

As Three Eyes frees Two Eyes, the tension heightens when Two Eyes grapples with guilt over past mistreatment by her sisters:

“You saved us.” (19:58)

Two Eyes's internal struggle and eventual reconciliation highlight themes of forgiveness and family bonds.

Journey Back to the Ship and Emotional Turmoil (07:43 - 11:30)

Upon escaping the dragon, the sisters return to their ship, where underlying tensions resurface. The children discuss Two Eyes's feelings:

“She feels guilty and she thinks that... she's not as good as them.” (10:07)

This segment delves into personal growth and the challenges of overcoming past mistakes, emphasizing the importance of self-acceptance and mutual support.

Confronting the Dragon and Unveiling True Powers (12:00 - 19:58)

As the dragon pursues them, Two Eyes's hidden ability to breathe underwater becomes pivotal. Adam describes the perilous moment:

“The dragon decided that Two Eyes and her rescuers must have drowned under the wreck, and he gave up and flew away.” (18:31)

The revelation of Two Eyes's powers serves as a metaphor for recognizing and embracing one's unique strengths, reinforcing the message that everyone has inherent value and abilities.

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Interactive Discussions and Themes

Judging by Appearances (23:36 - 24:05)

Post-story, child participants reflect on initial judgments and the transformation of their perceptions:

“Don't judge a book by its cover.” (23:50)

This conversation underscores the timeless lesson of looking beyond superficial appearances to understand true character, a core theme in many Grimm tales.

Embracing Differences and Personal Growth (19:22 - 20:32)

The dialogue reaches its emotional peak as Two Eyes confronts her shame and decides to embrace her uniqueness:

“I don't want to be ashamed either. I want to be proud and brave and different.” (20:15)

This heartfelt declaration promotes self-confidence and the acceptance of one's individuality, encouraging listeners to celebrate what makes them different.

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Character Development and Resolutions

Sisters’ New Roles (22:10 - 23:18)

Upon returning to the kingdom, each sister is bestowed with a quarter of the realm and assigned roles that reflect their unique abilities:

• Princess One Eye becomes the Admiral of the Navy.
• Princess Three Eyes is appointed Chief of Guards and Inspector of Mysteries.
• Princess Two Eyes sits on the throne, ensuring stability.
• Princess No Eyes manages governance with her prophetic abilities.

Adam elaborates:

“Princess Two Eyes was the princess who sat on the throne because she'd had the most practice.” (22:53)

These new roles symbolize the empowerment of each sister, illustrating how individual strengths contribute to collective success and leadership.

Triumphant Conclusion (23:09 - 23:28)

The story culminates with the sisters uniting to restore harmony to the kingdom, culminating in a harmonious ending:

“And the four sisters lived happily and lovingly ever after. The end.” (23:09)

This resolution reinforces the values of unity, cooperation, and the triumph of good over adversity.

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Production and Acknowledgments

Adam Gidwitz concludes the episode by acknowledging the collaborative efforts behind the production:

“Grim Grimmer Grimmest is a Pinna Original production... Special thanks to all the kids who joined us for our storytelling sessions. You guys are awesome.” (25:05)

This gratitude highlights the importance of community and participation in bringing these enchanting stories to life.

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Key Takeaways

1. Embrace Individuality: The journey of Two Eyes emphasizes the importance of recognizing and valuing one's unique abilities.
2. Forgiveness and Growth: Overcoming past grievances fosters stronger family bonds and personal development.
3. Look Beyond Appearances: True character lies beneath the surface, urging listeners to avoid superficial judgments.
4. Collective Strength: Unity and collaboration amplify individual strengths, leading to greater achievements.

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Conclusion

"No Eyes, One Eye, Two Eyes, Three Eyes (Part II)" masterfully continues the Grimm fairy tale tradition with modern relevance. Through vivid storytelling and interactive discussions, Adam Gidwitz not only entertains but also imparts meaningful life lessons. This episode serves as a testament to the enduring power of fairy tales in teaching resilience, unity, and self-acceptance.

For those eager to dive deeper into these magical narratives, "Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest" is a must-listen, offering a fresh and engaging perspective on beloved fairy tales.

Transcript

[Alexis Ohanian]

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[Adam Gidwitz]

Hi, my name is Adam Gidwitz. I'm an author. I'm also a storyteller.

[Narrator]

I like telling all kinds of stories.

[Adam Gidwitz]

But I especially like telling grim fairy tales. You may think you know grim fairy.

[Narrator]

Tales and you may think that they.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Are sweet and boring, but listen, those tales you heard were the cute, happy little kid bedtime versions of the Grimm tales. The original Grimm fairy tales aren't like that at all. They're weird and sometimes gross and often scary. In other words, they're grim. And I'm about to host a virtual storytelling session and tell one of the original grim grim tales to a bunch of kids.

[Narrator]

Do you want to join me?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Do you want to hear a grim fairy tale?

[Narrator]

I don't know if you said yes.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Or no because I can't hear you, so let me help you decide. This is the second part of a tale called no Eyes. One Eye Two eyes, Three Eyes. If you haven't listened to part one yet, you're gonna wanna go back and.

[Narrator]

Listen to that first.

[Adam Gidwitz]

On a scale of Grim, Grimmer and Grimmest, this second part of the story is grim. The exciting adventure continues with lots of action and lots of suspense. If I get to a part of the story and you start to feel scared or uncomfortable, this is what you could do. You could turn down the volume and count to five.

[Narrator]

Then turn the volume back up. If it still seems like a part you don't want to hear, turn it down and count to five again.

[Adam Gidwitz]

You know how much weird and gross and scary you're ready for? You know what you need? Okay, I'm about to join the session. There are kids inside waiting to hear a grim fairy tale.

[Narrator]

So are you coming in?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Grim Grimmer Grimace.

[Child Participant 1]

Adam, what's the story called?

[Narrator]

This story is called no Eyes. One Eye, Two Eyes and Three Eyes Two.

[Child Participant 1]

I didn't hear the end.

[Narrator]

No, no one heard the end. But now you will.

[Child Participant 1]

This is part two.

[Narrator]

Who can remind us what happened in no Eyes. One eye.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two eyes.

[Narrator]

Three Eyes. Part one.

[Child Participant 1]

Okay, so there was a woman. She had four babies. One had no eyes, One had one eye, one had two eyes, and one had three eyes. And her mother loved Two Eyes the most and didn't like anyone else.

[Narrator]

Right.

[Child Participant 1]

And then they found out they had superpowers. No Eyes. When she dreamed she could see the future.

[Narrator]

Very good.

[Child Participant 1]

One Eye can see very far.

[Narrator]

Yes.

[Child Participant 1]

And Three Eyes can see in the night.

[Narrator]

Yes. Excellent. What was the very last thing that we heard happening just before I stopped last time?

[Child Participant 1]

Okay, so Three Eyes was looking in the dark cave for the dragon.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Right.

[Narrator]

Because the dragon had captured Two Eyes and the sisters were trying to rescue her.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Yeah. All right, Here we go. Quietly. Oh, so quietly. Three Eyes crept up to the dragon's nest. The great dragon, with his emerald and blue scales, his claws as large as dogs and his fangs as tall as men, was curled up in his giant nest. The dragon was snoring loudly. Three Eyes got closer and closer until suddenly she saw a bit of ribbon and then some hair and then an arm. And it was Two Eyes. Two Eyes was in the nest, too. She was trapped, it seemed, between the belly and the legs of the dragon. She appeared to be sleeping fitfully. Three Eyes crept toward her sister with the stealthiness of a master thief catcher. She climbed over the dragon's legs, knelt down beside her sister and whispered, two Eyes. Two Eyes opened her Two Eyes and she almost screamed. Three Eyes clapped a hand over her sister's mouth and motioned for Two Eyes to follow her out of the cave. But Two Eyes wasn't sure why Three Eyes was there. And Two Eyes remembered that she had not been very kind to her sister the last time they were together. Three Eyes urged her to hurry.

[Child Participant 1]

Quick, follow me.

[Child Participant 2]

We've come to rescue you. Who's come to rescue me?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Said Two Eyes too loudly.

[Narrator]

Shh.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Hissed Three Eyes. The dragon had moved in his sleep. Three Eyes held her breath until the dragon started snoring again. Then Three Eyes whispered, me and One.

[Child Participant 2]

Eye and no Eyes are here.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Which made Two Eyes nervous. Why?

[Child Participant 1]

They might kill her.

[Narrator]

Why might they kill her?

[Child Participant 1]

Because she did nothing. She wasn't being nice to them.

[Narrator]

Yeah. And she did nothing to help them when their mom banished them. You're absolutely right.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes knew how angry her sisters had been with her. But she decided she certainly couldn't stay in this cave with the dragon. She would definitely die. So she followed Three Eyes through the darkness, climbing as quietly as she could over the dragon's legs and out of his nest. The whole way out of the cave, Three Eyes held Two Eyes's hand and used her excellent vision to guide her so she wouldn't trip or kick a rock or wake up the dragon by making a sound. They hadn't held hands since they were very little children.

[Child Participant 1]

Aww, that's sad.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Three Eyes led Two Eyes back to the ship, where no Eyes and One Eye were waiting.

[Child Participant 1]

Oh, hi.

[Child Participant 2]

Hi, Two Eyes. Hi.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes wasn't sure whether to embrace her sisters or not. And no Eyes, One Eye and Three Eyes weren't sure if they wanted to be embraced.

[Narrator]

Luckily, there wasn't time for hugs.

[Adam Gidwitz]

They sailed away from the island as fast as they could. They sailed and sailed and sailed through the night and through the next day, until finally the island was out of sight, even of One Eye with her telescope. Then they stopped sailing so they could rest and perhaps talk.

[Child Participant 1]

Yes. And Two Eyes will have to apologize for just being a bad person. Yes. And being like, oh, well, okay. Who cares about them? I have my good fortune.

[Narrator]

Right?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes looked at her sisters. She hadn't seen them in years. They looked just as strange to her as they had when they were all children. But there was something different about them now. Something prouder. Two Eyes wasn't sure what it was. What do you think it was?

[Child Participant 1]

They had jobs and they weren't treated poorly.

[Narrator]

Very interesting.

[Child Participant 1]

And also, she hasn't really seen them. Like, without her mother clothes to say. Oh, ignore them, dear. They are not like you. You should use your beauty sin. We shall have a fortune. You shall become a model. You shall marry the prince.

[Narrator]

That's a good point. This is like the first time we've ever seen them without their mom nearby. Any other thoughts?

[Child Participant 1]

Well, One Eyes, no Eyes and Three Eyes were born with special abilities. Two Eyes wasn't.

[Narrator]

Mm. So they've got this pride. Is that what you're saying?

[Child Participant 1]

Mm.

[Narrator]

Interesting.

[Adam Gidwitz]

But her sister's new pride made Two Eyes afraid and made her feel more guilty than ever. And instead of embracing them now, or even thanking them for saving her, she curled up on a coil of rope up at the bow of the ship and went to sleep. And no Eyes and One Eye and Three Eyes scowled at their proud princess of a sister.

[Narrator]

One Eye said, see? She thinks she's too good to even.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Say thank you for saving her life. Three Eyes concurred.

[Child Participant 2]

I told you we shouldn't have bothered saving her. She's so stuck up.

[Adam Gidwitz]

But no Eyes wasn't sure. She thought maybe something else was going on with their sister.

[Narrator]

Why do you think Two Eyes isn't.

[Child Participant 3]

Talking to them because she's embarrassed and guilty.

[Narrator]

Can you explain what she's embarrassed about?

[Child Participant 3]

Because she was mean to them and didn't do anything about it when they got kind of put out. But then when she got taken by the dragon, they came and rescued her even though she did nothing to them.

[Narrator]

That's a good point.

[Child Participant 3]

She feels guilty.

[Narrator]

She feels guilty and she thinks that.

[Child Participant 3]

She'S not as good as them.

[Narrator]

Yeah. Maybe because she's always believed. That's a really interesting point. When they were growing up, she always thought she was better than them. And now maybe she's afraid they're better than her.

[Child Participant 1]

Yeah. Now they've got all these awesome powers and some people, people like them. And they've got the jobs. And they successfully rescued their sister from a dragon. All alone.

[Narrator]

Yeah. So maybe she feels like lesser than them.

[Child Participant 1]

Yeah.

[Narrator]

That's so interesting.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Well, eventually they all fell asleep on the deck of the ship, far away from Two Eyes. They slept until about midnight, and then no Eyes awoke.

[Narrator]

Why do you think dream?

[Child Participant 1]

Because she had a bad dream.

[Narrator]

What kind of bad dream? About what?

[Child Participant 1]

The dragon. Dragon. Dragon. Dragon. Dragon.

[Adam Gidwitz]

She'd had a dream. No Eyes cried.

[Child Participant 2]

Sisters, wake up.

[Adam Gidwitz]

They all woke up with a start. Three Eyes asked, what's wrong?

[Child Participant 2]

Something terrible is going to happen to the ship. I see it breaking up on the sea, and I see. I don't know why.

[Narrator]

Anyone know why?

[Child Participant 3]

Because the dragon will come and rain fire.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Well, this whole time, Two Eyes hadn't really been sleeping. She'd been tossing and turning with guilt and sadness. Her sisters had saved her, and she couldn't even thank them. And were they really so ugly as their mother always said? They didn't seem ugly to her anymore. They seemed fierce and wild and beautiful.

[Child Participant 1]

They're powerful. They're beautiful. More beautiful than you will ever be.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes, at the other end of the ship heard no Eyes's prediction about the ship breaking up on the sea and catching fire. And she was pretty sure she knew what would cause it. She leapt up from the coil of rope and ran to her sisters.

[Child Participant 2]

It must be the dragon. I'm sure of it. Quick, jump into the water. Stay under until the dragon is gone.

[Narrator]

But we'll drown.

[Adam Gidwitz]

One Eye protested.

[Child Participant 2]

I'll keep you alive.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes said.

[Child Participant 4]

How?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Cried Three Eyes.

[Child Participant 2]

Trust me.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes implored them.

[Child Participant 1]

And just then, the dragon came.

[Adam Gidwitz]

The dragon came flying over the ship, spraying fire everywhere. The four sisters jumped into the ocean, and just in time, too. Because as they disappeared into the waves, their ship exploded. They swam down and down and then looked back up to where their ship had been. All that was left was floating boards and burning sails and fire on the water. And they saw the shadow of the dragon going back and forth just above the waves, searching for them. The sisters were holding their breath for as long as they could, but they were running out of air.

[Child Participant 1]

Oh no.

[Adam Gidwitz]

And still the dragon was there, scouring the sea, blowing fire at the waves, looking for two eyes and whoever had taken her from him.

[Child Participant 3]

Wait, what color was the dragon?

[Narrator]

Does anyone remember? I think I described the color of the scale.

[Child Participant 1]

Or not Scale.

[Narrator]

Blue, purple, purple, purple, blue, aqua. Maybe some purple in there.

[Child Participant 3]

So why is he raining down fire? It should be water. So obviously it's a water dragon.

[Narrator]

You think it's a water dragon? Now, now, don't judge a dragon by its scale.

[Child Participant 1]

Just like don't judge a book by its cover.

[Narrator]

Exactly. It's the same principle. You might see a dragon and you're like, oh, that dragon can't burn me up. It's blue and green. And then.

[Child Participant 1]

And then it burns you up.

[Narrator]

Fire out of its mouth.

[Child Participant 4]

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[Adam Gidwitz]

It was getting harder and harder to stay below the surface and soon no eyes. One Eye and three Eyes were certain that they would drown. Just then they saw Two Eyes swim down deeper into the sea. She swam deeper and deeper until she was swallowed by the darkness.

[Narrator]

He a mermaid the sisters wondered what.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes was doing and they wondered if it would be better to drown or to be killed by the dragon.

[Child Participant 1]

It's my dragon. Drown. Third option no eyes.

[Adam Gidwitz]

One Eye and three Eyes were just about to have to decide which way they would rather die when a third option appeared. Two Eyes swam back up to her sister's. She had a large conch shell in her hand and she exhaled into it and the conch shell captured her air bubbles. Then she put the conch shell up against three Eyes lips and three Eyes breathed in sweet air.

[Child Participant 1]

Two Eyes has magic too and two.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Eyes went to One Eye and no Eyes and exhaled into the conch shell. And then she put it to each of their lips, and they breathed in sweet air, too.

[Child Participant 1]

So they're, like, kissing each other?

[Narrator]

Well, no. They're passing a shell back and forth.

[Child Participant 1]

Okay, I don't. That would be disgusting. Kissing each other. They have to do it to survive.

[Narrator]

There's no other choice better than drowning or being eaten by a dragon. Come on, people.

[Child Participant 1]

I guess so.

[Narrator]

Okay, well, they're not kissing each other.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Every few minutes, Two Eyes would breathe into the conch shell and give air to her sisters. And they stayed there under the sea for hours. Three Eyes, One Eye and no Eyes wanted to ask Two Eyes how this was possible, but they couldn't.

[Child Participant 1]

Is this really possible now?

[Narrator]

Ah, no. It's not usually possible.

[Child Participant 1]

You'd probably die trying.

[Narrator]

You would definitely die trying. Good point.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Finally, the dragon decided that Two Eyes and her rescuers must have drowned under the wreck, and he gave up and.

[Child Participant 1]

Flew away hours ago. He should have made that decision.

[Narrator]

Made that decision hours ago. I agree.

[Adam Gidwitz]

The fire on the waves went out, and the four sisters swam to the surface and gasped at the fresh air. They found one piece of the ship that had not broken apart, and they climbed up onto it like a raft. On the makeshift raft, Three Eyes said.

[Child Participant 2]

Two Eyes, how did you do that?

[Adam Gidwitz]

And Two Eyes said, as long as.

[Child Participant 2]

I've been alive, I've been able to breathe underwater. What?

[Adam Gidwitz]

No Eyes gasped.

[Child Participant 1]

Why'd you never tell them?

[Child Participant 2]

Why didn't you tell us?

[Adam Gidwitz]

Two Eyes looked down. She wanted to say something, but she didn't know how to explain it.

[Child Participant 1]

Because of Mother?

[Narrator]

Yes. What do you mean?

[Child Participant 1]

Because she wants to be normal. She wants her to be normal?

[Narrator]

Mm.

[Child Participant 1]

Well, being a normal person. No one's normal. Everyone's different. There's no such thing as normal. Yeah, everyone's weird in their own way.

[Narrator]

I mean, look, I've met you guys. I've told you guys a lot of stories. You are all super weird, and I like that about you. We are all unique and weird in various ways. Some feel like weaknesses, but so many of them are strengths.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Finally, Two Eyes said, I am ashamed. One Eye said, ashamed.

[Narrator]

Why are you ashamed?

[Adam Gidwitz]

You saved us.

[Child Participant 2]

I am ashamed that I never told you that I was different, too. I didn't want to be different. I wanted to be just like everyone else.

[Adam Gidwitz]

And then Two Eyes looked at her sisters and said, but I don't want.

[Child Participant 2]

To be like everyone else anymore. I don't want to be ashamed either. I want to be Proud and brave and different.

[Child Participant 1]

Like you, my sisters.

[Child Participant 2]

Like you, my sisters.

[Child Participant 1]

Those are good role models for kids.

[Adam Gidwitz]

And no Eyes, One Eye and Three Eyes edged across the makeshift wall until they were right next to their sister. And then they pulled her into their arms and they hugged her for the first time since they were very little children.

[Child Participant 1]

Aw.

[Adam Gidwitz]

The four sisters paddled back across the seven seas, back to the kingdom where Two Eyes was the princess. Once they arrived, they heard some very sad news. After the dragon had taken Two Eyes away, their mother had died of loneliness.

[Narrator]

Why are you cheering the mother?

[Child Participant 1]

Been mean.

[Narrator]

The mother has been mean. It's true. Now, I have a question. Why do you think she died of loneliness? I mean, like, assuming that it's a fairy tale, and in fairy tales you.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Can die of loneliness.

[Narrator]

Why did the mother die of loneliness, do you think?

[Child Participant 1]

Because she didn't have her kids.

[Narrator]

And why didn't she have her kids?

[Child Participant 1]

Because she sent them away.

[Narrator]

Yeah, she sent them away. She kind of brought the loneliness on herself, didn't she?

[Child Participant 3]

Yeah.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Well, no Eyes, One Eye and Three Eyes accompanied Two Eyes back to the castle.

[Narrator]

Okay, does anyone remember what the reward was for bringing Two Eyes home?

[Child Participant 1]

Um. A quarter of the kingdom.

[Child Participant 3]

Oh, yeah.

[Narrator]

A quarter of the kingdom.

[Child Participant 3]

Oh, but three. Three of them did it. So each sister ruled a quarter of the kingdom. So they could just put their quarters together and then be the rulers over the whole kingdom.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Upon arriving at the castle, they were given their reward. One quarter of the kingdom went to no Eyes. And one quarter of the kingdom went to One Eye. And one quarter of the kingdom went to Three Eyes.

[Child Participant 1]

What about the other quarter?

[Adam Gidwitz]

And the last quarter remained with Two Eyes and her prince.

[Child Participant 1]

Oh.

[Adam Gidwitz]

And so the four sisters became four princesses. Princess One Eye became the admiral for the navy. And she charge of all the kingdom's ships.

[Narrator]

Princess One Eye, there's a squall out at sea.

[Adam Gidwitz]

What shall we do?

[Child Participant 1]

Batten down the hatches and don't worry. Just beyond it the skies are clear and blue.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Princess Three Eyes became the chief of the kingdom's guards and chief inspector of mysteries and crimes.

[Narrator]

Princess Three Eyes, the crown jewels have been stolen.

[Child Participant 2]

Don't worry. I already caught the burglar and returned the jewels to the treasury.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Already?

[Narrator]

Wow.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Princess Two Eyes was the princess who sat on the throne because she'd had the most practice.

[Narrator]

Princess Two Eyes, your subjects are here for the royal audience.

[Child Participant 2]

Show them in. Let's solve some problems.

[Adam Gidwitz]

But most important of all was Princess Knowise. Because she could see the future. So she made sure that the kingdom was prepared for anything.

[Child Participant 2]

Sisters, I've just had another dream. We shall all let live happily and lovingly ever after.

[Adam Gidwitz]

And the four sisters lived happily and lovingly ever after. The end.

[Child Participant 3]

Yeah.

[Narrator]

Okay, question for you all. Can you think back to how you first reacted when you first heard about what the girls looked like?

[Child Participant 1]

I was freaked out.

[Narrator]

Yeah, you were freaked out.

[Child Participant 3]

Okay.

[Child Participant 1]

I thought they were the bad guys.

[Narrator]

You thought they were gonna be the bad guys. Interesting. Interesting. Why do you think your opinions changed?

[Child Participant 1]

Because I learned that they're good.

[Narrator]

Interesting.

[Child Participant 3]

Don't judge a book by its cover.

[Narrator]

Yeah, that's true. Or a dragon by its scales.

[Child Participant 1]

Or don't judge a person by its appearance.

[Narrator]

That's true.

[Child Participant 3]

Don't judge a heart by its face.

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Child Participant 1]

What?

[Narrator]

I love that. Don't judge a heart by its face. That's true.

[Child Participant 1]

Heart doesn't have a face.

[Narrator]

Well, not literally, but you know what you mean.

[Adam Gidwitz]

It's a good point. Grim Grimmer Grimmest is a Pinna Original production Created, written and narrated by me, Adam Gidwitz, author of A Tale Dark and Grim Co written by Ali Horne Produced and edited by Ilana Milner Casting by Paula Gammon Wilson Voice direction by Ilana Milner and Paula Gammon Wilson Sound design and mixing by Beat street nyc Executive produced by Ann Richards Produced production.

[Narrator]

Support by Ashley Beecher and Thaddeus Dankwa.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Characters voiced by Alison Lee Rosenfeld, Baron Bass, Billy Bob Thompson, Cat Pretano, Sanofia Mitchell, Colin Ryan, Dylan Jones, Erica Schroeder, Kaelyn Clinton, Kylie Claxton, Lori Hymes, Michael Crouch, Mike Pollock, Nicholas Korda and Rob Moreira. Special thanks to all the kids who joined us for our storytelling sessions. You guys are awesome.

[Child Participant 2]

Once upon a time, there was a girl who dreamed of flying through the stars. Who dared to resist injustice.

[Child Participant 4]

Who lived to a beat and a.

[Adam Gidwitz]

Rhythm that was all her own.

[Child Participant 2]

Her name was Chloe. Frieda. Oprah, Celia Cruz, Josephine. Greta Ruth, Elise. One day, she wondered, could today be the beginning of something new? This was her one opportunity to do something. Something big. So that's exactly what she did. Along the way, she discovered that she wasn't alone. Her body felt strong, her mind sharp.

[Adam Gidwitz]

She was prepared to work as hard as it took.

[Child Participant 2]

Her words were making a real change.

[Child Participant 4]

And she felt powerful.

[Child Participant 1]

I'm Gayle King.

[Adam Gidwitz]

I'm Andra Day.

[Child Participant 1]

I'm Diane Giving.

[Narrator]

I'm Lindsey Vaughn.

[Child Participant 2]

I'm Jamila Jamel.

[Adam Gidwitz]

I'm Anita Hill.

[Child Participant 2]

I'm Brenda Chapman.

[Adam Gidwitz]

I'm Alana Glaser.

[Child Participant 2]

And this is Good night stories for Rebel Girls. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or find out [e-mail] audio.