The Three Feathers (Part II)

Summary

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Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest

Episode: The Three Feathers (Part II)
Host: Adam Gidwitz
Date: September 25, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this lively and imaginative retelling, Adam Gidwitz continues “The Three Feathers,” a classic Grimm fairy tale, with an energetic classroom audience of kids. The episode focuses on the conclusion of the brothers’ quest to inherit their father’s kingdom, blending humor, audience commentary, and insightful asides. As always, the show’s signature tone mixes playfulness with the classic weirdness and darkness of the original tales, inviting children to predict plot twists and share their reactions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Final Contest Begins (04:01–05:14)

• The king announces the final contest to decide the next ruler: each son must find and bring back "the most beautiful maiden in the land."
• The children immediately question the fairness and ethics of this task:
  • "Isn't that kind of rude?" (04:21)
  • Kid commentary: “If you go into a place where there’s a lot of girls and you pick one that’s the beautiful maiden, that’s kind of weird for other girls, because then they’re not considered beautiful maidens.” (04:38)

2. The Search for Maidens (05:14–07:10)

• Feathers are thrown, sending the sons east, west, and back to the castle gate.
• The younger brothers find only two little girls (one indignantly exclaiming "I'm nine!"), leading to comic confusion about eligibility for the challenge (05:36–06:03).
• Foiled, the younger brothers resort to retrieving two elderly sisters, who excitedly prepare to go to the castle (06:29–06:43).

3. The Oldest Son and the Toad Lady (06:53–11:56)

• The oldest son returns to the magical Toad Lady, hoping she can help him find a beauty for the contest.
• A series of clever kid predictions fill this segment:
  • "I think he’s getting the ring and the rug and maybe doing something with them to turn the frog into a beautiful lady.” (07:14)
  • "...the curse will reverse.” (07:23)
• The oldest son realizes the solution is not in objects, but in showing kindness. He asks to kiss the Toad Lady, sparking groans and reaction from the kids about fairytale logic:
  • "That is so disgusting." (10:03)
  • “This is why it’s a fairy tale...when you kiss them, they turn into a nice, beautiful woman.” (10:07)
• After the kiss—described with comic physicality and transformation—the Toad Lady is revealed as a beautiful maiden. There’s a sweet and funny interaction:
  • "I hope that would work. Otherwise, I’d just be kissing a Toad Lady." (11:32)
  • Maiden: "Would that have been so bad?" (11:39)
  • Oldest Son: "This is better." (11:44)

4. The Backstory and Breaking the Curse (12:43–13:26)

• The maiden reveals she didn't remember her own curse until just then, and the curse’s solution was love and kindness:
  • "I think you already know. You saw it all on the carpet." (12:47)
• Kids speculate about the sorcerer, the curse, and the meaning of “true love’s kiss.”
  • “True love’s kiss or something.” (13:51)

5. Final Tests and the King’s Decision (14:10–17:38)

• Rather than judging the maidens by beauty, the king invents a new, physical challenge: each maiden must jump through a hoop.
  • “Instead, they will be judged by their ability to jump through this hoop.” (14:51)
• The elderly women get stuck, much to everyone's amusement.
  • “She was tangled.” (15:45)
• The former Toad Lady easily sails through the hoop, winking at the oldest son—her toad skills still handy:
  • “She used to be a frog. A toad. Exactly right.” (17:36)
• The king finally declares, “My oldest son has won. He will inherit my kingdom.” (17:59)
• But the king then delivers a cold pronouncement: “But you will never have my blessing or my love.” (18:12)
• The classroom erupts with indignation:
  • “That is so rude.” (18:23)
  • “You’re a big donkey, you big, big donkey.” (18:24)

6. Resolution and Reconciliation (19:01–21:26)

• The youngest sons are told they must marry the ladies they brought, “if they'll have you.” The elderly sisters are eager: “Oh, we will. We’re going to be princesses.” (18:57)
• At the wedding feast, the oldest son instructs the chef to not use salt, triggering another callback to the story’s message about love:
  • “It’ll taste terrible.” / “Do as I say. You’ll be glad you did.” (19:43)
• The food is flavorless, leading the king to finally realize the true value of the son’s earlier love.
• Tears and reconciliation follow:
  • King: “If it’s not too late, I would like to give you my blessing and my love.” (21:07)
  • Oldest Son: “You have always had it, Father. You have always had it.” (21:19)
• The story ends with the feast enjoyed by all (“except for the two younger brothers, but the old ladies had a ball”). (21:26)
• The conversation wraps up with the kids riffing about “juicy” romance, in true Grimm, Grimmer, Grimmest fashion.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Funny, Insightful, and Iconic:

• “Isn’t that kind of rude?” — Oldest Brother (04:21)
• “These maidens are like seven years old.” — Youngest Son (05:36)
• “I was just looking at this nice carpet.” — Oldest Son, caught by his father (08:52)
• “I knocked. I was on the toilet.” — The King (09:05)
  Kids burst into laughter: “That’s the funniest thing I ever heard.” (09:03)
• “That is so disgusting.” — Child Listener, on the toad kiss (10:03)
• “I hope that would work. Otherwise, I’d just be kissing a Toad Lady.” — Oldest Son (11:32)
• “You’re a big donkey, you big, big donkey.” — Child Listener (18:24)
• “You have performed so miserably that your reward will be that you shall marry the maidens you have brought before me, if they'll have you.” — The King (18:48)
• “You have always had it, Father. You have always had it.” — Oldest Son (21:19)
• “‘I don’t like this juicy romantic stuff.’ ‘You always call it juicy. It’s all juicy... Everything is juicy.’” — Child Listeners bantering (22:03–22:16)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 04:01 — The king's final challenge is unveiled.
• 05:36–07:10 — Little girls, ring misunderstanding, and elderly maidens.
• 07:14 — Predicting the curse’s solution.
• 09:05 — The King’s “I was on the toilet” comic reveal.
• 10:03–11:56 — The transformative kiss and resulting magic.
• 14:10–17:38 — The hoop challenge and the triumphant leap.
• 18:12–18:24 — The king’s harsh withdrawal of love, audience reactions.
• 19:36–21:19 — The salt-free feast, reunion, and loving reconciliation.
• 22:03–22:16 — Kids discuss “juicy” romance, maintaining humor and tone.

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Tone & Language

The episode is playful, irreverent, and interactive, with Gidwitz’s narration balancing drama with tongue-in-cheek humor. Children’s voices provide real-time reactions, doubts, and jokes, offering both comic relief and sharp insights into the story’s themes of love, value, and family reconciliation.

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Summary

In this hilarious, heartfelt episode, Adam Gidwitz and his young co-hosts dissect the final arc of “The Three Feathers”—from magical transformations and comically unsuitable maidens to a king’s grudging acceptance and a final, loving reconciliation between father and son. With lively kid commentary and just the right dash of gross-out fairy tale weirdness, the episode delivers moral lessons, belly laughs, and plenty of “juicy” fairy tale moments.

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Transcript

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[Child Listener]

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[Adam Gidley]

Hi, my name is Adam Gidley. I'm an author. I'm also a storyteller. I like telling all kinds of stories, but I especially like telling grim fairy tales. You may think you know Grimm fairy tales and you may think that they are sweet and boring, but listen, those tales you heard were the cute happy little kid bedtime versions of the Grimm tales. The original Grimm fairy tales aren't like that at all. They're weird and sometimes gross and often scary. In other words, they're grim. And I'm about to walk into a classroom and tell one of the original grim grim tales to a bunch of kids. Do you want to join me? Do you want to hear a grim fairy tale? Let me help you decide. On a scale of Grim, Grimmer and Grimmest, this episode is grim. Nothing too terrible happens. But get ready for some suddenly scary moments. If I get to a part of the story and you start to feel scared or uncomfortable, this is what you could do. You could turn down the volume and count to five. Then turn the volume back up. If it still seems like a part. You don't Want to hear? Just turn the volume down and count to five again. You know how much weird and gross and scary you're ready for? You know what you need? Okay, I'm at the classroom door now. There are kids inside waiting to hear a grim fairy tale. So are you coming in? Grim, Grimmer, Grimace.

[Child Listener 2]

Let's do it.

[Adam Gidley]

Y' all ready?

[Child Listener 2]

Comfortable, everybody?

[Child Listener]

Yep.

[Child Listener 2]

You gonna play with your Velcro? No, I will hang.

[Child Listener]

You got those feathers?

[Adam Gidley]

This is the second half of the Three Feathers. It was time for the king to announce the final contest. He took out three more feathers and.

[King]

Announced, the final contest will be to find the most beautiful maiden and bring her to the castle.

[Adam Gidley]

And the youngest son said, uh. And the middle son said, uh. And the oldest son said, isn't that kind of rude? Alright, tell me, what was he talking about?

[Child Listener]

So, like, if you. If you, I don't know, go into, like, a place where there's a lot of girls and you pick one that's the beautiful maiden, that's kind of where it's the other girls, because then they're not considered beautiful maidens.

[Adam Gidley]

The king took the three feathers to the balcony, threw them to the wind, and this time, the youngest son's feather went east again.

[Child Listener 2]

The middle son's feather went west. And the oldest son's feather went. Where do you think?

[Child Listener]

10 yards.

[Child Listener 2]

10 yards? Right by the castle gate.

[Child Listener 3]

I knew that was it.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son's feather was caught by a gust of wind and it spun around. And again it landed right by the gate of the castle, very near the Toad Lady's door. This time, the youngest and middle sons didn't even bother splitting up. The middle son said, come on.

[Child Listener 4]

I saw some pretty maidens to the east.

[Child Listener 2]

And they both walked until they found.

[Adam Gidley]

The two little girls playing.

[Child Listener 3]

It's a child. Childs can't get married.

[Adam Gidley]

The youngest son. The sun leaned over and nudged the middle son. These maidens are like seven years old. I'm nine, one of the girls said indignantly. And then she saw the middle son.

[Child Listener 3]

Hey, give me back my ring.

[Adam Gidley]

The middle son said, nonsense.

[Child Listener 4]

I command you to come to the palace with us.

[Child Listener 3]

I'm gonna get my dad and tell him you stole my ring and he's gonna beat you up.

[Adam Gidley]

The younger son and the middle son looked at each other. If he beats us up, we could have him hanged.

[Child Listener 4]

Yeah, but first he'd beat us up. I have another idea.

[Adam Gidley]

So the two princes ran away from the little girls. They ran all the way to the west, back to the house of the two old sisters. From which the middle son had stolen the doormat. They burst in and announced, oh, beautiful.

[Child Listener 4]

Maidens, We've come here to take you to the palace.

[Adam Gidley]

The two old ladies were thrilled.

[Child Listener 3]

Oh, just let me get my wig off. Oh, yes. I nearly forgot my teeth.

[Adam Gidley]

So they led the two old sisters back to the palace. Meanwhile, underground, the oldest son sat across the little table from the toad Lady.

[Oldest Son]

He said, I need to find a beautiful maiden.

[Child Listener 3]

I don't think I can help you there.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son waited a beat. Then he said, I think you can.

[Child Listener 3]

Really? I don't know how.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son said, I'll be right back.

[Child Listener]

I think he's getting the ring and the rug and maybe doing something with them to turn the frog into a beautiful lady.

[Child Listener 2]

Interesting.

[Child Listener]

I think maybe the ring has the conclusion to the story on the rug. And maybe if he tells it, the curse will reverse.

[Child Listener 2]

Very interesting. The curse will reverse. I love that rhyme. It's such a good rhyme, too.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son returned to the palace. He looked around for his father. But his father was nowhere to be seen. So he tiptoed to his father's room. Quietly, he knocked. No answer. He pushed the door open. There was a shriek of rusty hinges. The oldest son nearly peed himself. But he didn't. He didn't see his father anywhere. He tiptoed across the floor. He heard a horrible groaning sound. It was the floor groaning under his weight. He saw, rolled up under the bed, the carpet the toad lady had given him. He pulled it out. He unrolled it. He looked up and down, its beautiful warp and weft. That means its up and down threads and its side to side threads. And he saw.

[King]

What are you doing?

[Adam Gidley]

His father stood in the doorway, looking furious. The oldest son stammered, I was just.

[Oldest Son]

Looking at this nice carpet.

[Child Listener 2]

Where were you?

[King]

I knocked. I was on the toilet.

[Child Listener 3]

That's the funniest thing I ever heard.

[King]

Why are you looking at that carpet? Have you found the beautiful maiden yet?

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son glanced back at the carpet. Then he said, I think I have. He hurried out of the palace and back to the toad Lady's home. He sat down opposite her at the table and asked, are you sure you.

[Oldest Son]

Don'T know where I can find a beautiful maiden?

[Child Listener 3]

She replied, honestly, I have no idea. Why would I lie?

[Oldest Son]

I don't think you're lying. I think you don't remember.

[Adam Gidley]

And then he looked at the hideous toad woman. Green with spots of brown, her giant black eyes. And her mouth so wide it could easily swallow him in a single Gulp.

[Oldest Son]

And he said, may I kiss you?

[Child Listener 3]

That is so disgusting.

[Child Listener]

This is why it's a fairy tale. At first, I'm like, this wasn't a fairy tale. But I realized when you kiss in fairy tales, like some people, they're, like, disgusting old. But when you kiss them, they turn into a nice, beautiful woman.

[Adam Gidley]

Let's find out what the Toad lady said. But he asked again. This time she replied, why would you.

[Child Listener 3]

Want to kiss me?

[Oldest Son]

You'll just have to trust me.

[Child Listener 3]

I mean, I don't mind if you don't.

[Adam Gidley]

So the oldest son leaned across the table and kissed the Toad lady on her wide, slimy lips. He fell backwards like he'd been hit by a bolt of lightning. That's what it had felt like, an electric shock. It must have felt that way to the Toad lady, too, because she fell backwards out of her chair. And then she started to change. Her big black eyes became smaller. Her wide mouth got not quite so wide. Her black spots became black hair, and her green skin turned not so green anymore. Sitting on the floor, looking stunned, was a very beautiful maiden indeed. The oldest son smiled.

[Oldest Son]

I hope that would work. Otherwise, I'd just be kissing a Toad Lady.

[Adam Gidley]

And the maiden who used to be.

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

A Toad lady said, would that have been so bad?

[Oldest Son]

This is better.

[Adam Gidley]

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[Oldest Son]

Do you want to tell me how you became a Toad Lady?

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

I think you already know. You saw it all on the carpet.

[Oldest Son]

But you didn't remember anything?

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

No, not until just now.

[Oldest Son]

Will you come to the palace with me?

[Adam Gidley]

And the maiden, who had taken quite a fancy to the oldest son when she was a Toad lady, replied, I.

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

Would go with you anywhere.

[Child Listener 2]

Sorry, guys. It is. I know it's terrible. Do you think you understand the story? So, like, what do you think happened? What was this thing with the sorcerer and the Toad lady and the. What do you think the backstory is.

[Adam Gidley]

That the carpet told? Yeah, go ahead.

[Child Listener]

I think like. Like the. Like, the carpet was telling, like, a story about, like, how the maiden turned into like a flower frog and the.

[Child Listener 2]

Sorcerer maybe turned her into it.

[Adam Gidley]

Right?

[Child Listener 2]

And then what was the way to solve the curse? Kissing through kissing.

[Child Listener]

True love.

[Child Listener 2]

True love's kiss or something. Exactly.

[Adam Gidley]

So the oldest son and the maiden who used to be a toad went to the palace and they arrived just when the youngest and middle sons arrived with their old ladies. The the oldest son saw them and was about to say, this was the.

[Oldest Son]

Best you can do.

[Adam Gidley]

But he didn't want to be rude, so he just introduced his brothers to the maiden who used to be a toad. And when his brothers did not introduce him to the old ladies, he introduced himself. That being the polite thing to do. They all went to the throne room together, where the king awaited them with a hoop dangling by a rope that hung from a pulley on the ceiling.

[Child Listener 2]

What is that?

[Adam Gidley]

The youngest son demanded. The king replied, well, you asked why.

[King]

I was making you jump through all these hoops to inherit the kingdom. I thought that was a good idea. So your maidens will not be judged by their beauty.

[Child Listener 4]

Thank heavens.

[Adam Gidley]

Sighed the middle son.

[King]

Instead, they will be judged by their ability to jump through this hoop.

[Child Listener 2]

Seriously.

[Adam Gidley]

The youngest son cried. He looked at the two old ladies with him.

[Child Listener 2]

He wasn't sure they could even see the hoop. They were both squinting in the wrong direction. The king told the youngest son to present his maiden. I like picturing that, right? They're like, it's over there.

[Adam Gidley]

The king told the youngest son to present his maiden. When the king saw her hobbling forward, he grabbed the end of the rope and lowered the hoop until it was touching the ground. The king said, there.

[King]

She just has to get through that.

[Child Listener 2]

But even crawling through the hoop proved.

[Adam Gidley]

Very difficult for the old lady.

[Child Listener 2]

And she got it stuck around her midsection and then had one arm on one leg and one leg on one side, the other arm and the other leg on the other side.

[Child Listener 3]

She was tangled.

[Child Listener 2]

Yes. It took them all to pry the hoop off of her.

[Adam Gidley]

Hmm, Said the king.

[Child Listener 2]

The middle son's maiden went next.

[Adam Gidley]

She tried to go backwards through the.

[Child Listener 2]

Hoop butt first, but then she got stuck, which meant her butt was through the hoop and nothing else was. It took them even longer to pry the hoop off of her.

[Adam Gidley]

The king said finally. The king looked at the healthy and beautiful maiden that the oldest son had brought. He grabbed the rope and pulled, hoisting the hoop so high its top touched the ceiling. The oldest son objected, father, that's impossible. The king replied petulantly, Maybe you should.

[King]

Have told me that you loved me. More.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son stared balefully at the hoop dangling near the ceiling. He turned to the maiden, who used to be a toad, and said, I'm sorry.

[Oldest Son]

Let's just leave.

[Adam Gidley]

But the maiden smirked at him.

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

It's really no problem.

[Adam Gidley]

And he said, huh? But the maiden had already bent her legs, aimed her hands toward the hoop, and she leapt into the air. Or maybe she hopped into the air. She passed gracefully through the hoop and landed on her feet on the ground again.

[King]

Holy moly.

[Child Listener 2]

Shout at the king and the youngest son and the middle son and the oldest son all at once. The old ladies didn't shout because they'd been looking in the wrong direction. The maiden, who used to be a toad, sauntered back to the oldest son. She winked at him. How was she able to do that? How was she able to leap, hop.

[Adam Gidley]

So high in the air?

[Child Listener]

Because she was used to frogs.

[Child Listener 2]

She used to be a frog. A toad. Exactly right.

[Adam Gidley]

The king walked out onto the balcony without a word. His three sons followed him, as did the maiden and the two old ladies. They all watched him and waited anxiously for him to speak. The king sighed. He shook his head. At last, he spoke.

[King]

My oldest son has won. He will inherit my kingdom.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son broke into a wide grin. The king added quickly, but you will.

[King]

Never have my blessing or my love.

[Child Listener]

What does that mean?

[Child Listener 2]

I won't be happy that you're king, and I will never love you.

[Child Listener]

Oh, how dare you.

[Child Listener 3]

That is so rude.

[Child Listener]

You're a big donkey, you big, big donkey.

[Child Listener 2]

Okay.

[Adam Gidley]

Inside the oldest son's chest, his heart shrieked like a rusty hinge. The maiden, who used to be a toad, silently took his hand. The youngest son demanded, what do we get? The king replied, you have performed so.

[King]

Miserably that your reward will be that you shall marry the maidens you have brought before me, if they'll have you.

[Child Listener 3]

Oh, we will. We're going to be princesses.

[Adam Gidley]

The king looked at his oldest and the maiden, who used to be a.

[King]

Toad, and grumbled, you two can do what you like.

[Adam Gidley]

The oldest son turned to the maiden.

[Oldest Son]

Would you marry me?

[Child Listener 3]

Mmm.

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

I'll have to think about it, she said.

[Adam Gidley]

But then she winked.

[Child Listener]

She was kidding.

[Child Listener 2]

Will she marry him?

[Maiden (Toad Lady)]

Yes.

[Child Listener]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Gidley]

So the wedding of the three sons was held, and all the kingdom was invited. But as the feast was being cooked, the oldest son snuck into the kitchen and told the chef.

[Oldest Son]

I forbid you from using any salt in this meal.

[Adam Gidley]

The chef said, but it'll taste terrible.

[Child Listener 4]

Meat needs salt. Without salt, the flavor of the meat is Lost.

[Oldest Son]

Do as I say. You'll be glad you did.

[Adam Gidley]

As the guests sat down to the wedding feast, huge platters of food were.

[Child Listener 2]

Brought out before them.

[Adam Gidley]

But no sooner had they begun to eat than they began to choke and spit their food out on their plates. The king pushed his dinner away from him.

[King]

This is revolting. What is the meaning of this? It's as if it has no.

[Adam Gidley]

And then he looked up at his oldest son, and the king said, salt.

[Child Listener]

What did the king realize he meant like now? I realized that the sons were kind of lying.

[Adam Gidley]

Realized about what?

[Child Listener 2]

The oldest son.

[Child Listener]

He realized that in the first round, he realized he loved his dad so much.

[Adam Gidley]

Tears began to fall from the king's eyes, and he got up and walked around the table until he stood beside his oldest son. He threw his arms around him and held him tight and said.

[King]

I did not understand, but now I do. If it's not too late, I would like to give you my blessing and my love.

[Adam Gidley]

And the king quite nervously asked, may.

[King]

I have your love in return?

[Adam Gidley]

To which his oldest son replied, you've.

[Oldest Son]

Always had it, Father. You have always had it.

[Adam Gidley]

And salt shakers were brought to the tables, and the feast was enjoyed by all. And everyone lived happily ever after, except for the two younger brothers. But the old ladies had a ball. The. And then she started to change.

[Child Listener]

She gaggled and gaggled.

[Child Listener 3]

I'm a beautiful lady.

[Child Listener]

That's me. I don't like this juicy romantic stuff.

[Child Listener 2]

I've never heard of romantic stuff being called juicy before, but I get it.

[Child Listener]

Really.

[Child Listener 2]

That makes it even grosser.

[Child Listener]

I always love it.

[Child Listener 2]

You always call it juicy.

[King]

It's all juicy.

[Child Listener 2]

So weird.

[Child Listener]

Everything is juicy.

[Child Listener 2]

Everything is juicy. I didn't know that.

[Adam Gidley]

Grim Grimmer Grimmest is a Pena Original production Created, written and narrated by me, Adam Gidwitz, Author of A Tale Dark and Grim Produced and edited by Kalin West Field Recording by Julia Martin Casting, voice direction, sound design and mixing by Kaelyn West Associate Producer Rebecca Cunningham Executive produced by Carly Milori Production support by Devin Shepherd Characters voiced by Jalen Askins, Jonathan Cruz Lee Joel Scott, Kevin Northman, Anne Scobie and Charlotte Wilson Langley. Special thanks to all the kids in Staten island and Brooklyn who joined us for our storytelling sessions. You guys are awesome.