In this episode, I sit down with Josh Barker to talk about navigating wilderness seasons, rediscovering rest, and learning to follow Jesus with curiosity and childlike faith.

Josh shares honestly about walking through grief and spiritual dryness, and how those seasons can become places where we encounter God more deeply than we expect. We explore the difference between rigid routines and life-giving rhythms, why sustainable discipleship matters, and how curiosity can transform the way we relate to God in everyday life.

This conversation is an invitation to slow down, pay attention to God’s presence, and cultivate rhythms that nurture faith rather than exhaust it.

We talk about:

✨ How wilderness seasons can deepen our awareness of God’s presence✨ Why rhythms often sustain spiritual life better than rigid routines✨ The role of rest in healthy discipleship and emotional wellbeing✨ Cultivating curiosity and childlike faith in our walk with God✨ Navigating grief, numbness, and seasons of uncertainty✨ Practical ways to create space for spiritual growth in everyday life

Where might God be inviting you to exchange pressure-filled routines for life-giving rhythms in your spiritual life?