In this episode of the Growing Green Podcast, Jeremiah sits down with Pat Murray of Local Roots to unpack a powerful and raw conversation around leadership, burnout, and building a sustainable business. Pat shares the behind-the-scenes reality of scaling a $10M landscaping company, including the intentional shift toward recurring maintenance revenue and the operational complexity that comes with growth. The conversation takes a deeper turn as Pat opens up about hitting a breaking point, navigating burnout, and ultimately stepping away for a sabbatical to recover and reset. Together, they discuss the importance of defined roles, asking for help, and building a business that doesn’t rely solely on you. They close with practical strategies for setting boundaries, avoiding chronic stress, and leading effectively through the demands of a growing company.

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