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Hi, guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.
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Like, it's an activator.
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An activator, I love that word. Right before we started, I was telling David that I think people are kind of getting a little fatigued from like over supplementing. And what is so amazing about Mana is that it's so, it's all natural and the benefits are like, I mean, you can check it yourself are extraordinary. So I want to talk about your story, David. Introduce beyond, like your name, who you are, why you know, why you're actually here and your whole, you know, the evolution of, like, how, you know, how this whole thing happened with found, you know, kind of finding this company, being the founder of such a potent product, etc, and, you know, just who you are. So thank you for being here.
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Thanks, Jennifer. It's always a gift to be in your presence and please yeah, Mana is really started very differently to a lot of other health and wellness businesses. And what I mean by that is I actually went on a quest of self discovery myself, which led me to a whole bunch of different places around the planet, like the Himalayas, like Peru, like the Middle east, like Egypt. And along that journey, I was in a very open space and ended up meeting a lot of local people, royal families and indigenous people that introduced me to different substances that had been used for thousands of years. And I was traveling around for, you know, five or six years and had some big questions that I was looking for answers for myself. But along that way, when I was exposed to these different substances that were mainly around, like anti aging and longevity and Fountain of Youth and all these kind of big, exotic terms at the time.
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Big buzzwords.
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Yeah. And when I was finished that, and I was actually at the Dead sea sleeping for 88 nights on the bank of the sea with nothing except myself and one of my good friends, Marty. And that was a whole kind of journey to get there. But I was introduced to the mineral kingdom in a new way, meaning the Dead Sea is the most mineral concentrated solution on the planet. So I was spending a lot of time getting in the water, sungazing, reading some sacred text, and through that journey, really understanding that minerals are so important for our biology because we are water and minerals, and it's the minerals that are providing that conductivity. So it was at that point where I had a mentor of mine saying, you know, why don't you create a product from everything that you've learned? And I thought to myself, what would that product be like? All these substances I've come across, what are the ones that I could take to people or share with people that would have the most impact? And it was really two substances, and they were shilajit from the high mountains in the Himalayas, and then ormus, made from ocean plasma from the Dead Sea. And the combination of those two are not just minerals, but they're also amino acids, enzymes, tritopines, something really powerful called fulvic acid, which we can get into a little bit. So what that, what the combination of those raw materials is doing is really raising the body's cell membrane potential and raising the voltage. And it's actually getting nutrients into the mitochondria. And the mitochondria is what produces the ATP, which is the electrical potential.
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So what kind of made you realize that it was ocean plasma and shilajit and that combination that was doing such miracle work on the body in the first place, like did you just fall upon something? Like, did you fall upon it one day and you saw some major changes? Like, how did the. How did it kind of unravel itself?
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Yeah, it happened over years, but it
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didn't happen in a lab. You know, like, a lot of times people are like, oh, you know, this A plus B equals C. Let's, like, test it in a lab. And then, you know, that's not what happened.
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Yeah, it was about 15 years ago that I really became fascinated in the fact that the body was a saltwater, that we're saltwater beings. And I was understanding that, you know, a lot of people were deficient, they were mineral deficient.
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How did you figure that out, though?
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Just because, you know, I remember one big part was a study by the Department of agriculture in the U.S. actually, that said our food has 90% less minerals in them now than they did a hundred years ago, because the soil has 90% less minerals in it now than it did 100 years ago. So that translates to, you know, you have to eat 10 apples to get the same nutrients as you as you did from one apple. So, yeah, it just kind of made sense to me that we needed more minerals. And it wasn't until I was actually at the Dead Sea and doing a lot of fasting and getting in the water, I actually saw minerals in a totally different way, which it gets a little bit esoteric, but because I was studying physics and advanced mathematics at the time, and I could see the minerals as vortexes, like the atoms of the minerals as vortexes. The different minerals had, like, different energetic signatures. And so it was important to get all of them into the body and then trust in the body's intelligence to actually take what it needs and discard the rest. But if the body's only getting, say, 20% of the minerals that it needs, it's going to be compromised in its expression, like in its biological functioning. It's going to be compromised. One way I used to think of it is like keys on a piano. So it's like 88 keys on a grand piano. There's 88 minerals that our body requires. And you imagine if your piano or keyboard only had, like, eight keys to play a song. So you could still play the song, the song would still be cool. But if you've got 88 keys, you're going to be able to play, like, this harmony in this symphony that has all these other notes and expressions. And our biology is a frequency. It is playing a song. So if we've got access to all those keys, we're going to be able to play a song that's not compromised.
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So, you know, the Dead Sea has been. Is very famous for so many amazing health benefits. Right. People do fly there from all over the world just to. To float. Right. Did you get this from that experience? Like, did you notice some truly miraculous benefit while you were in the Dead Sea because you were living there, I mean, beside. There for so long. Like, I know I was an Israeli, when people like it, it's extraordinary what it does for your skin. It's extraordinary. Like the. The minerals are so nutrient dense. Right. I know that from my background. Did you not. Did you only kind of realize that in real time? And they were like, oh, my God, the whole world needs to kind of experience what this is.
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To answer your question about people going there and getting healed. There was people coming there in busloads.
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Yeah. And bus. Those. I'm telling you.
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Especially from Russia.
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Really?
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Of all places. Yeah. But from all around the world. Germany, Europe. And I spoke to a lot of them because often at nighttime, I'd go up to the kibbutz to get something to eat, and there'd be groups of people sitting around, and people would go there with, like. With really bad joint pain as an example.
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That was the one thing I remember. That's a big one.
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Yeah.
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Joint pain. Yeah, yeah.
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And they would go there for, say, three or four weeks, and the entire time they're at the Dead Sea, the joint pain would go away. They would go home, and three, four, five months later, it would slowly keep coming back, and then it would be totally back. And so they'd come back for an annual trip, and that was relieving their joint pain. And that was one example. There was lots of different examples.
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Give me another example.
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Well, there was more serious diseases that people were going there and getting cured from.
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Like what?
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Whether it was cancers. Parkinson's was another example. Really? Yeah. A whole heap of different skin ailments there was.
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Oh, the skin, for sure. So you take these samples and like, the, like, mana is not just ocean plasma, though, it's also shilaji.
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Yes.
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Right. So, like, it's not like you just. Because it's not like you were. It's not like you took a. You went to the bottom of the ocean and scooped some of the stuff and then put it into, like, little jars and. And sold it. Right. What, like. Like what did you do? You took the samples and then what happens? Because then you have to make thousands and thousands and thousands of parcels with it, and then you're mixing it with something else. Like, why did you even mix it? Like, if it was so. If the healing properties were so extensive, just at the Dead Sea, couldn't that just be like, what the. Like that resin, can't that just be the liquid?
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So to answer your question, why was it, like, amplifying the effect? So fulvic acid. Fulvic acid is. It transports nutrients at the nanoscale, so it activates minerals, breaks them down into a smaller particle size so they can get into the mitochondria. Remember the mitochondria?
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So you needed that shilajita, that fulvic that's in the shilajit, to break down the ormus, or what do you call it?
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Yes, ormus.
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To make it more effective to get penetrate into your body.
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Exactly. So that's why shilajit's so powerful, especially our shilajit, because it has the highest percentage of fulvic acid on the planet. But when you then go and combine this, concentrated almost with that. So most supplements. Most supplements never get to the mitochondria because they can't get through the membranes.
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Yeah, now I understand.
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So there's not only the cellular membrane, there's the mitochondrial membrane. So let's say a cell has a thousand mitochondria inside of it. And so most supplements are never getting to that. Mitochondria. And the mitochondria, remember, is producing the ATP, which is the electrical potential. It's not only doing that, it's regulating our metabolism, it's regulating our hormones, it's regulating our genetic signaling, it's regulating our intercellular communication. So fulvic acid is like, as this nutrient transporter at a nanoscale. It's like nature's nanotechnology. It's only 1-2nm in length.
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So wait, so without the shilajit or the falvic, and you just took, like, the ormus by itself? Right. It would never be as effective. Right. So why are more people not do. But this is what I never understood. There's not like, there's no one else really doing it. Like, wouldn't someone else have figured this out or, like, copied you or done something with this? Because you have a lot of products on the market that are shilajit. Right. I haven't seen any ormus, by the way, but I have seen a lot of shilajit. Why have they not, like, used this? Like, why have they not done the combination? Is it too expensive?
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That's a good question. I think. I think it's like, such A journey for me to kind of figure this out and come across this.
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How long did it take?
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I think I was having meetings on this at Expo west yesterday. And I believe in the future people will add fulvic acid to every formulation. They are already, I feel, because it's that nutrient transporter. So when they also understand like that trace minerals are up regulating membrane potential in the cell. And again, the charge and the voltage of that membrane potential decides where the nutrients can come in and toxins can come out. So. So you can be eating the best diet in the world, you can be taking the best supplements in the world. But if they're not getting into the mitochondria, the mitochondria which controls the cell can't do anything. It's going to start acting in isolation, which means it's not going to bring nutrients in and it's not going to remove toxins. So that's why you'll get people that have these amazing diets. But if they don't have the voltage and the cell membrane potential, they can still get disease, they can still be unhealthy because there's no transport mechanism through the membrane.
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So you need the fulvic acid to transport.
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You need, you need the fulvic acid or you need like nanotechnology, you need small particle sizes. I mean, there is other ways to cross cell membranes, like with charge and size and shape. Okay, so gold, as an example, is the nutrient that we haven't discussed, but it's the third one that we use at mana.
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So gold, that's the one I'd have all the time.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So gold, when it's in a nanoparticle size of between 10 and 30 nanometers.
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Okay.
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Can also cross the blood brain, the blood brain barrier and cell membranes, so it can interact at the cellular level. And gold can hold light. It's the only substance that can hold all the waveforms of light from the sun.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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This is interest. So interesting. But I still had to, I still don't understand why more people have not caught on and like, like, like kind of copying you or doing like doing different companies with it.
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Yeah, I think it's just a timing thing. Like I said, they're going to start doing like.
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No, I didn't see one company at Expo west doing it. Not one. I didn't even see any shilajit companies actually, now that I think about it. Although I know you can buy like shilajit supplements, but. And if you actually tested those shilajit supplements, you know in fact, someone was telling me they took them to the Lab. There's like 0.01% of Shilajit in the. In the cafe. Yeah. Because it's expensive.
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Yeah.
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And it's hard to get.
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Yeah, yeah. It's really hard to get the good stuff from above 16,000ft.
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Yeah, it's. So how do you get it? Like, what's your process? I mean, I don't want to like, ruin all, like, tell all your secrets, but like, how do you.
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I actually don't mind telling it all because I'm not. I'm not competitive in that way. I think of things as.
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You're not. Okay.
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I think if I think of things as collaborative. So, like being in these meetings yesterday, I actually want like tens of thousands of companies to figure this out and get it out there because mana, we can't supply this to everybody, but we like. I want everyone to have access to these minerals.
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Yeah. So we put a thousand milligrams of shilajit in every dose, which is very, very high.
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What do most people do if they had, like, in those capsules I was talking about?
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Yeah. So gummies. 125 milligrams.
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And that's what they tell you.
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That's what they tell you. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, you need 10 times more gummies just to get to a thousand milligrams. And the. And the thousand milligrams we use is resin. It's not a powder with fillers in it. Like, it's resin from above 16,000ft. So I'll give you some context, like,
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you please explain, because I think people. This is where people get confused. I did for a long time. Like, not all is created equal. Right. It is very different.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So you can buy Shilajit from $10. Let me actually. Let's say $20 a kilo to $2,000 a kilo.
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Wow. Okay.
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So. And the best way to test it is you test for amino acids, you test for protein content, and you test for fulvic acid. So most shilajit will have between 8 and 20% fulvic acid. Ours is 88%.
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Wow.
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Ours has all 20amino acids. Ours has zero heavy metals. So again, because it's from such high altitude, which makes it incredibly hard to get.
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How do you get it?
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Yeah. So you can only really get it for about eight weeks of the year, which is July and August, because the rest of the year it's under the snow. So the last two seasons, we've employed 600 people to go out and collect shilajit.
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How much? How many people?
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Six hundred.
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God. Okay. Wow.
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Yeah. From the local tribes. And we get it from three different locations now because the business is growing.
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And how do you extract it? What does it look like when you extract it?
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Yes, it's always different. Sometimes you'll actually find clumps of the resin. But more often than not, it's mixed in with rock and sand. And they've literally got to put that in a sack, carry it back down to the processing center.
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Wow.
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Where it's cleaned with purified water. And then you heat it at low temperature to cause a separation. Then you put it through A filter. And you repeat that process until you end up with a black resin.
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Wow. That's a hard product to make, to produce.
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Extremely hard. Extremely difficult.
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So just talk about for a second. Before we even get into the ormus, I want you to, like, name the top six benefits of shilajit alone. Go.
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So energy, ATP production, metabolism, focus recovery, longevity, hormone replacement. So cellular charge.
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Cellular charge. Okay. I thought hydration was one of those, too.
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Definitely. Yeah, definitely. So I think of hydration as conductivity. I think it is cellular voltage, energy and longevity. That's what hydration is to me.
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Okay.
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Like, hydration is not just about drinking. No, I know water without minerals, that's just fluid, but water with minerals is conductivity.
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So instead of using, like, you know, electrolytes are massive right now. Instead of using these shitty electrolytes that are like, literally, it's like sugar and crap in these little. Can't they just use a sachet of mana in their water? And that would act as an electrolyte?
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100%.
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If I have a skin issue.
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Yes.
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And I. If I can, I. If I don't drink it and just put it on my skin, would that help? Like, you know, when you go to the Dead Sea and you people lie there and they then take the mud and they put the mud on. On their skin. I'm sure you saw that a ton. If I did that with the sachet, what would happen? Yeah, I mean, I don't recommend it. Or do you?
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Yeah, you can both. Shilajit and almost have been used topically, so the ormus would be amazing because of the magnesium for your skin, the shilajit.
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Well, the combat. I have. I only have those sachets, let's say. So, like, opened it. I went like that on my skin.
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Yeah.
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So people use eczema or psoriasis.
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It'll help with all of that. People use it as face masks. People use it in their hair. The indigenous used to do that. There's. There's, like. It's documented.
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So I can just use it as a. As a beauty product, Correct?
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Yeah.
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There's so much data on the properties of how healing this stuff is. And I know you created something that is at, like, a level of integrity and quality that most people would never do, which is why I wanted. This is a great platform because it's so good for people to have this and incorporate this into their, like, routine. Because it's not just, you know, another, like, you know, conversation on saunas, cold plunges, you know, whatever. The supplement of the day. Is creatine. You know what I mean? I think this is a really. This really does, like, change and alter your health at a deep level.
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100%. You know, if you look at the biology as, you know, photonic superconductor.
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Yeah.
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Or a photonic biophotonic electrical system, when we give it the correct inputs and it can upgrade itself, then this isn't just a supplement. It's an activator.
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An activator. I know. You said that earlier, it's so true. Where can they get more? I mean. I mean, there's been so much information, but if you want more, like they should, they can go check out mana vitality, the, you know, mana, and they can read all about it. But thank you for being on the show. Coming here from all the way from Australia. Do you have anything else you want to include in this episode?
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No, I think we've covered a lot.
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You think?
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Yeah. I appreciate your time and no curiosity, as always.
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I'm very curious because I. Like I just said it, but I really love this product. I take it every day, you know, begrudgingly, because I don't love the taste, I'm not going to lie. But it's so good for you. So thank you. David, I hope you're going to make the Laker game. Or no, you're not going to do it next week, you're going to do it.
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I hope I'm going to make it as well. Yeah. I've been wanting to go to a Lakers game my whole life, so see what happens.
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Okay, let's wrap it. Okay. One more thing. For those of you who have not yet subscribed, if you're watching this on YouTube, please subscribe and leave a comment. Because comments help the algorithm. So I always forget to say that, so I'm saying it now. And with that, I will say goodbye. Have a great one.
Host: Jennifer Cohen
Guest: David Reid (Founder, Mana Vitality)
Date: March 27, 2026
In this episode, Jennifer Cohen sits down with David Reid, founder of Mana Vitality, for a deep dive into the world of minerals, ancient healing substances, and the science behind ORMUS and Shilajit. The conversation weaves David’s remarkable journey of discovery—spanning the Dead Sea, the Himalayas, and years of self-experimentation—with practical advice on longevity, cellular health, and what sets Mana apart from typical supplements.
This summary is designed to give a rich, practical insight into the episode for listeners interested in longevity, biohacking, authentic sourcing, and ancient wellness rituals.