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Hi, guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.
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I love a good laugh. I love a belly laugh.
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Right?
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Yes.
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And there's a. I think there is a reason why they say like laughter is the best medicine because it really, like, it really is. I mean, like nothing changes a mood or changes your emotional state better than like a good hearty Laugh.
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Absolutely right. Oh my God.
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Yeah, I just love it. So I, that's why I love standup. So let's go into this a little bit more. You know, like, there is a lot of research backing how laughter really does like change not just the neuroplasticity in our brains, but our overall physical and emotional well being. That's why there's like laughter therapy. There's like laughing yoga or whatever they call it.
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Yeah, laughing yoga, Laughing yoga, my favorite thing.
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Have you actually done it?
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Yeah. I can't believe you've never done it. It's like so much fun.
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Yeah, I've never done laughing yoga.
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So much fun.
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I just like going. That's why like, you know, I'm like hugely obsessed with standup comedians and like watching standup. I can do that every single night of the week. It's just, to me, I just love it.
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Yeah, comedians are great comedians.
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Like, you know, I, every night I fall asleep to like watching some kind of Netflix comedy special.
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But even the recent ones, listen, the
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recent ones haven't been so great, I gotta be honest with you. But like it, it automatically changes my. If I'm like in a shitty mood, a sad mood, an angry mood. Watching five minutes of comedy just shifts everything.
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Yeah.
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So this is why I think this is like a really good topic to really get into. Because there's like, they can say gratitude, they could say meditation, they can say every other thing helps you with your mental health and like well being. I believe laughter is number one.
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Well, laughing yoga is so interesting because it's not actual, like you're not laughing because you're watching like a really hilarious stand up bit. You're, it's a forced laughter at first. You're all like, I did this at the beach in Laguna Beach. Like my whole family was there on vacation and this circle of what looked like a cult just pulled us into their little laughing circle. And you just laugh and instinctually like once everyone else starts laughing, you start laughing and then everyone's just laughing a lot and then you're just like laughing nonstop. And then it's just this crazy like bout of laughter that is just so uncontrollable. And it's so, it's one of my favorite things. It's so much fun.
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You know, it reminds me of like yawning, you know, like when someone else, someone starts to laugh.
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Yes.
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I end up laughing because they're laughing and then I can't control my laughter and it goes back and forth and it's like usually the Best belly laugh. The best uncontrollable laugh is like the best feeling ever.
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100% right.
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And this is what they say. So it actually does reduce stress hormones. When we laugh, our bodies release endorphins, which are natural chemicals that make us feel good. These endorphins can help reduce the levels of stress in our body, such as cortisol, which is like obviously the stress hormone that. Which has negative effects on our immune system. It also increases our immune system function. So laughter has been shown to increase the production of immune cells and antibodies which help fight infections and illnesses. It also increases the activity of natural killer cells, which are white blood cells that it can attack cancer cells and viruses.
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So interesting.
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Yeah. So there's a lot of like. And that's what I'm saying, there's like a lot of like backed science, what laughter does to our bodies in a positive way, physically and mentally.
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Well, I mean, cortisol is like my arch nemesis, so anything to every.
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By the way, it's everybody's arch nemesis.
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My freaking arch nemesis.
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It's everybody's. I mean, who, who likes cortisol? Like, I don't. I can. You know what I mean? It's not something. Oh, I love having my stress hormone. You know, if there was like a
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villain in my life, like in my story arc my existence, like, cortisol would be like the villain, like the ultimate villain. Like he would just be like the, the Mufasa or whatever of like my, My story.
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I think it's everybody's. I, I really believe that. So we talked about like the power of humor. Laughter therapy. What are the other types of forms of therapy besides yoga, art therapy? People could. No, like in laughter, like there's like a lot of ways that you can use laughter to like help your. With your physical and mental cond. Also helps with chronic pain because I guess you're forgetting about the pain that you have because you're focusing on like your, your endorphins are also, I guess your endorphins are releasing and you're just like distracted.
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Do you talk about micro dosing on this podcast at all? Is that allowed?
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We've never talked about it because mushrooms
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will make you laugh like crazy and that can be like a really good form of therapy.
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But, you know, that's a whole other topic and a whole other podcast. But any type of psychedelic can have different effects on different people.
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Sure.
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So like, it can make you laugh. But a lot of people I know have had like horrible, horrible things where they've cried the Whole time, you know, or they've had anxiety the whole time. It's not just laughing, right? It's like maybe that's been your experience or maybe if you micro do, you can get a different thing. But.
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Well, microdosing is not going to give you any impact. It's not going to, it's, it's a long term like thing. It's not something that gives you like a, a high.
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And also I would say that laughter is like a universal language, right?
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Like that's very true.
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Everybody likes to laugh and if you're laughing, I mean it's a great, it's, it's a great bonding thing for people. Like for personal bonding. Like, you know, if you're laughing and I'm laughing right away, we're like bonded because we, we had a shared experience that was so positive and happy and fun.
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What's that mean? Girls quote. That's like math is the same in every language. Like laughing is the same in every language. It really is.
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It is. Laughing is the same.
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Literally the same.
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There's no language. It's just ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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You know, like, unless you're typing in Spanish, it's ja, ja, jaja, ja. Because they j is ha. So it's hahaha. Yeah, so funny. If I'm talking to my Spanish friends I go ja.
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Yeah, that's amazing. That's actually true. But I think it's like a universal language, right? And it's like, it's a, it's bonding, it releases tension. I mean there's so much like, I think that we should, people should explore the science of laughter as truly like a, like it's free medicine. Literally free medicine. Just as they would say. Like we talk so much on this podcast about all these ways to like optimize your health and your life, right? Like from you know, the saunas to the cold plunges to, to all sorts of like red light therapy, like all sorts of different modalities. I said earlier, gratitude, journaling, all these things. But like at the end of the day if you can just have a good laugh or like you and, and like laugh for like five minutes a day, so many of these like negative things that like are keeping you held back or down or, you know, so much of it just goes away. If you can just find, find something to laugh about 100%. Right? I think it should be the number one health modality and it's free. It should be up there with walking. I think walking and laughter are the two best and biggest ways to Change your mood and to elevate your health. To me, those are the two, and they're free. Anybody can do it. Everybody can do it. And you don't need to have anything but yourself. You can laugh at yourself if you want.
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You know what I. It. Every day.
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They do it every day. Exactly.
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Free. 99.
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Yeah, it's so.
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It's so interesting because laughing is also, like, when they say humor as a coping mechanism for kids who go through a lot when they're younger and they just become really funny in the end, like, it's. It's. It's interesting because it's literally like one of the best coping mechanisms. And it makes so much sense that some people would naturally go that route because of what it does to your body physically.
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So I also believe it's the best way to kind of like, a lot of, like, the world's like, people, like, political problems, everything. Like, it's like you. If you can, like, find humor in certain things that are, like, terrible, it's a great way to cope with anything, right?
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Like, absolutely.
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It's just, I. I just think it's. To be up there between that and walking. I'm not joking. Are the two. In my opinion, those are the two best ways to impact and increase your health in a positive way.
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What are your. Who are your favorite comedians to watch?
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Oh, my God. So curious now. Now you're talking my language. I'm. I used to be obsessed with Sebastian Manisilco. Do you know who he is? An Italian guy. He used to be hilarious. And then, like, as he got more, like, now he's so successful. He's, like, one of the biggest standouts of all time. He can, like, sell out the Madison Square Garden for, like, three nights in a row. He, like, lost a little bit of his edge, in my opinion.
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That happens, right?
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Because, like, now, like, his perspective, like, you know, when you're down and when you're in the trenches and, like, you know, I mean, like, you're funny as hell, but as, like, you're. Now you're living a bougie life. It's not so funny about his kids in private school or, like, his life is very different.
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His kids in private school.
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Like, that's his last special. Just wasn't that funny to me. Sorry, Sebastian. I still like you, but I'm obsessed. My favorite of all time is Chris Rock.
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Really?
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Chris Rock, to me, never lost his edge. He was hilarious 20 years ago. He still is hilarious. Every special I've seen on him, he's brilliant. He's so smart. He has his perspective, his thought process, his delivery, his voice. He, to me is the bar none the best stand up comedian of all time. Second closest is Bill Burr. I love Bill Burr. So you got Chris Rock, you got Bill Burr. I do like Sebastian, but not as much as those guys. I mean, people love Dave Chappelle. I think it's good.
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But I think he's lost his. His last couple specials. I just wasn't really. I don't know, they just like. I wasn't getting like a belly laugh out of them. Do you know what I mean? I need, like real. It's nice when it's thought provoking too. Don't get me wrong. I like that, but I'm not. I don't really care.
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I don't really want to think.
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I'm not trying to think. Yeah. I'm trying to just like die laughing, fall off my feet, like, you know.
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Did you listen to Chris Rocks?
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Recent.
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One recent Netflix special.
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No, but you know what? My dad told me also to watch it and that's kind of what put me off from watching it because I was like, ah. He always tells me like, no, no, he's right.
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And I'm not joking. He, to me, is, I think, the best of all time. Oh, another one. I love. Who's clean. Like, who doesn't really swear. He's super clean. He's really clever. Is Jim Gaffigan. Jim Gaffigan is amazing too. I like him. There's so many. I really love Ali Wong. She's really good. She's hysterical. She's amazing.
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I don't want to lean in. I want to. I want to lie down. It was one of my favorite lines ever.
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She's so good.
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So good.
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Another one. We had him on, actually. And Sam Morrell is very good too.
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Oh, you know when I'm like, when I'm scrolling on social, but I don't want to scroll on social. Like, I think that it's an unproductive waste of my time, but I still don't want to do anything else.
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Right.
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I'll go to someone like Sam's profile and just scroll through reels because I feel like it's productive. Like, I'm laughing and so I'm feeling really 100. His reels are really funny. He's funny.
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He's great. Like, he's great in the moment. Like, Sam can. Like, that's why his whole page is basically like him picking people out of.
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Yeah, the crowd.
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Work the crowd and. But they're really great. And that's great content. He's actually on tour right now.
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Yeah.
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So if you guys check him out, he's really good. There's a. Again, it's also his delivery, his voice. Voice has a lot to do with these comics, I find.
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Like does.
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There's a bunch of people I like this other girl, she was used. She's actually used to date Sam Morrell. She's really funny. Like to. She's young and she's like super, super, super talented. And her and Sam Morrell used to go out and what does her name. She's really funny.
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Taylor Tomlinson.
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Yeah, Taylor Tomlinson.
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Do you like her?
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I think she's really good.
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I don't think she's that funny.
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Oh my God. She's again, I think she's so clever. Like how she like sequences, words together. I think she's amazing. I think she's great. Brian Regan's another one I really like. There's so many but.
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Do you know Anthony Jeselnik?
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Yeah, I do. I know him. He's good. I like him. Not as good as the other ones.
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I, I think people love him. I think he has. In terms of the economy of words, like he's one of the best.
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He's good. He's very good.
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Literally crafting jokes. Like, I don't find Taylor to be a joke crafter. I think she's kind of got something but she's not crafting jokes really. Action.
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I think she's. I think that she tells a great story.
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I think I don't like story comedy. Yeah, but I mean, I know stand up.
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She's great. I think she's an excellent standup. She has like three specials and each one of them I think were crazy.
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I could never get into any of them. I even started all. Really? Yeah, I just didn't like, like them.
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See, I. I actually do like. I like Andy Jeselnik. He wasn't my. One of my favorite favorites. Oh. Do you know who I love and I think you put me on to him is Elon Gold or love Elon. Hilarious.
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Elon Gold is so freaking funny.
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Oh, he's so funny. And the other guy that his sidekick at that moment. Yeah, I like him. I think he's very funny.
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Someone I love. Also on the British side of the pond is Michael McIntyre. I think you would really like him. He's very family friendly too.
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I don't know that guy. You know, I do like. I like.
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So funny.
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He's funny. I like Ricky Jarve.
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Yeah, he's great. Yeah, Ricky Jarvis. Yeah, but Michael McIntyre is, like, a little bit more like Michael McIntyre is. Yeah, I guess he's like, family friendly. The guy. The guy literally sells out, like, arenas non stop. He's. He's fun for everyone.
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You know who I used to love, actually, is Russell Peters. Do you know who he is?
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Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Russell Peters is so good.
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She was so good. This is the point, right? There's a comedian for everybody. Everyone has different tastes and everything else, but the bottom line is, if you can find five minutes to laugh every day, your health will be so improved. That's a great way to naturally just release endorphins and. And really just increase your overall physical and mental health. And like I said, this podcast is all about actionable ways to optimize your life and your health. And so today we bring you the Science of Laughter. And let us know some comedians that you guys like. I'd love. I mean, seriously, like, I'm always looking for someone to. To laugh to, so please share.
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Yes. Go have a chuckle.
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Yes. And let me know some other ones if I haven't mentioned them already on the podcast. Bye.
Host: Jennifer Cohen
Guest/Co-host: Shani (last name not specified)
Date: July 17, 2026
In this engaging solo edition, Jen Cohen dives deep into the science of laughter, unpacking why we laugh, how it impacts our brain, and its profound effects on both physical and mental health. Joined by Shani, the conversation weaves through evidence-backed health benefits, cultural aspects of laughter, favorite comedians, and laughter as a daily wellness tool. The playful tone makes complex topics accessible as they debate their top standup acts and advocate for laughter as a free, daily health habit.
Mood Elevation and Emotional Shift
Social Bonding and Universality
Physical Health
Emotional Health & Pain Relief
Accessibility and “Free Medicine”
Laughter Yoga & Therapy
Alternative “Aids” (Brief Discussion)
Jen and Shani list and dissect their favorite comedians:
Jen: Chris Rock (“never lost his edge”), Bill Burr, Sebastian Maniscalco, Jim Gaffigan, Ali Wong, Sam Morril, Taylor Tomlinson, Brian Regan, Elon Gold, Ricky Gervais, Russell Peters.
Shani: Michael McIntyre (“family friendly”), Anthony Jeselnik (“economy of words”), Elon Gold.
Differences in comedic tastes highlighted, e.g. story-based vs. crafted jokes, clean vs. edgy material.
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Episode in a Sentence:
Laughter isn’t just fun—it’s scientifically backed, universally accessible, and arguably the most powerful and free health tool we have. Set aside five minutes each day, find your favorite comic, and let humor work its magic.