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chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod. Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod.
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Cheers. Cheers.
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Welcome to the Handsome Pod. It is your very good friend, Tig
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Notaro and your very close friend, May Martin.
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And I'm Fortune Feemster.
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And we are handsome yeah, we are yes, we are yes, we are
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handsome
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from the day we were born Handsome
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Handsome Day we die Handsome on the
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days in between Handsome Just you and
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I and me, me.
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Wow. That was a banger.
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Yeah.
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One of these days we're gonna stumble upon a banger. Right away. Top of the episode.
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The Handsome band is back again, baby.
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What do you mean, one of these days? We did?
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Yeah. Was that not a banger?
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You're right, we did. And we always do.
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Yes, yes. Yes. How's everyone doing?
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I'm doing well. I just reshared a picture of you, Tig, in the Oscar class photo of, like, all the nominees, and it just blew my mind. I saw it today on Entertainment Tonight. And it was. It's like Leonardo DiCaprio, all these nominees, and there's our. There's our little handsome tig right in the middle.
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Yep, yep, yep. Right in the middle. That was. That was really fun. I mean, obviously the whole process is exciting and fun, but it's such a nice thing. Like, today was the luncheon.
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What's the difference between lunch and a luncheon?
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Don't know. Maybe there's an Oscar somewhere. So, yeah, it was like press in the morning, then the lunch, luncheon, and after you eat, then they call each person up individually and everyone cheers. But it was actually really nice and fun and like, I just was standing up there going, God, I don't know. I know maybe five people up here personally, but I felt so proud of everybody. I was so overwhelmed with, like, God, good job, everyone. That's so nice. You know. Excuse me.
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She's riled.
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Yes, yes. But, yeah, it was a nice day. And have you met Leo? I met Leo, not. I met him in a social gathering previously.
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Okay, okay.
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Have you met him?
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I think I've heard that story from Stephanie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I have not met him. I saw him from a distance at a party, and he was vaping away and kind of grooving, and I was like, oh, what a shame. And then he. I thought, oh, he's kind of, you know, he's looking kind of depressing. Then he turned, I saw those baby blue eyes and I thought, he still got it. I'm in.
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So when you said what a shame, what was that in reference to him vaping or just kind of the vibe?
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I was like, oh, he's turning into Jack Nicholson kind of, you know, but he does, you know, he's still got it.
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So he does it for you.
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It's. It's really complicated. I want to be him. I want him.
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I.
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What are your feelings for.
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Yeah, what are your feelings? Yeah.
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I don't know. Who.
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Who is this Leonardo DiCaprio?
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For some reason, I thought I heard a different name than that Leo. We kind of still didn't. I don't know why that did not register. I am not. I mean, he's a good actor, but it's, you know, his, His.
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His baby blues don't do it for you.
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No.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's a good looking man. Listen, no shade for me.
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I want to be Leo in the beach and Romeo and Juliet, and I want to be with Leo in the Departed.
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What if he said yes, but no and switched the roles that you had to be him in one of the other ones and you had to be with him.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll work. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
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Flexible.
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I'm flexible on that.
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Okay.
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Have you had your luncheon yet, Fortune?
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I don't have a lunch in May.
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No, I mean luncheon today.
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Just your regular luncheon.
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Oh, I have lunch every day, but I. I don't refer to it as luncheons.
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Well, starting today, tomorrow. Yeah, everybody's.
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Everybody's gonna have a luncheon.
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Yeah.
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Do we wear blazers as well?
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Blazer I' suit over.
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Oh, you are. I can't see your pants. I don't know.
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Well, let's show it off.
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Show off this handsome suit.
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YouTube, it's just more of the same, but.
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Oh, yeah.
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Va. That's my. That's my luncheon outfit. And then I have an evening suit for tonight's event. And you just won't ever know what that looks like unless somebody posts it on something.
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And then I'll reshare it like a little.
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You're not going to. You're not going to be taking a bunch of pictures. I know how much you love the selfies. I do. I love a selfie.
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I love grabbing a famous person and getting a selfie. That's one of my favorite.
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Someone you don't know?
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Yeah, no, no. I'll take a picture and I'll. I'll send it to.
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And then you need to post that picture, girl.
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No, I'm not gonna post it. I'm gonna send it to you. Girl. Girl. And you, girl. I'm gonna send it to our handsome thread and then you guys can rate my look.
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Okay, girl, because that right now, is that like a wine colored.
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Yeah, it's burgundy.
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Yeah, it's nice.
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I don't normally wear colors and people are saying. Because it's a luncheon.
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Oh, yeah.
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See, you gotta wear. You wear a little pop of color. Yeah, yeah. So I went with this.
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I love it.
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Enough about me. How are you?
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Is it enough? It's never enough.
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It's never enough.
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Never enough. You know, I have to say, I. I don't. I don't know if you saw, but I posted a video of myself from last week when I was on Star Trek. And I posted that and then I went about my day.
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Yeah, yeah. Wait, can I explain what the video was? Yes, because I fell for it.
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Okay.
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It was like, oh, this where you were kind of in serious.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I.
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A up close video of Tig looking really serious. Like, we saw your acting chops. And you were like, I don't. I hate having to post this video.
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I never imagined. I never happened to be. And. And then I basically just say that I got a haircut and she nailed it, and I'm the hottest cast member on Star Trek.
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Yeah.
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And. And that, you know, it's. It's a hard thing to be the hottest cast member. So anyway, I post that, I go about my day, and. And I have, you know, these, like, screenings and all this stuff going on, and people kept saying, nice haircut, Tig. Hey, nice haircut, nice haircut. And I was like, thank you. Completely forgot about that video.
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Could not figure out, like, people are really hitting on me.
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Really was thinking, what is so different about my hair? And then when Meg Fowley said, oh, my gosh, my dad sent your video about your hair or sent that video about your haircut, I didn't even think of it as a video about my haircut. I thought of it as me being the hottest person on Star Trek. So I did. I was like, what video is your dad sending? What is going on with my haircut? And then I put it together. But that was, yeah, a little bit of a. A funny little surprise.
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Yeah. It's good.
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It does look. It is a nice haircut.
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Well, thank you. But it's my normal haircut, you know, everyone.
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It's got, like, a little style to it.
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Yeah, it's very dapper one.
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Calm down.
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Me and Fortune started a separate thread
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about it up here.
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Yeah, I can't see, but me and Fortune have.
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We have a separate WhatsApp thread. Just about your haircuts. Checking it. Monitoring.
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Blank WhatsApp. Not text.
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Yeah.
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Or do you guys badmouth me? On a separate text that, like, disappears, that kind of thing disappearing with the.
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The invisible thing around it or whatever,
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we go, what a. What a. I never say the word, and it doesn't sound good coming out of my mouth.
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I said a lot for funs, you know, funnies.
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For funnies. Can you guys guess what's in my mug? Is that a fun game?
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O, yeah. Urine. You know, you're not your own urine.
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I forget you drink, right?
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I do, I do. Not much, but yeah. Oh, you're thinking it's a boozy Bev.
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A hot toddy.
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Listen, I don't know. We're heading into evening. It's dark outside. According to your window with no curtain on it.
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Yeah, it's dark over here, too. Yeah. Where did that curtain thing go?
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You mean the. The newspaper clippings?
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Yes. That's why I said curtain thing.
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Well, it's down, but the stickers are still up from where it was. But I. What I want is, like, stained glass or something, but.
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Oh, that's a beautiful choice for that little window over there.
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That window that gets no sunlight through it.
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Yes.
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Yeah, you must get stained glass. But wait, what is in your cup? What's in your mind?
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We have to guess.
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I'll give you a clue. It is hot.
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I'm gonna say hot. Chocolate?
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I wish.
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Tea pee.
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It's coffee.
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Mm.
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Oh, I know what it is. What? I know what it is.
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Bone broth.
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Pretty. Yeah, it's. It's bro. It's a. It's broth. Oh, this is a gross game, actually. It's. It's. I ordered, like, Vietnamese food, like, pho, you know, and then I didn't have time to eat it before the pod, so I just poured the broth in the cup, and then at last minute, I put plain white rice in the broth.
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Oh, let's see.
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Yeah.
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Did you talk to it? Did you say, I love you?
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I just.
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I just poured it all over my laptop.
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Oh, boy. Podcast. Make it past this coming april.
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Oh, God.
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Or even two april.
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Oh, it's the rice that you've been saying, I hate, or, no, I love you too.
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No, this is fresh rice.
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And so you've been saying, I hate you.
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Yeah, it's just always. It's fun drinking soup out of a mug, you know?
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I was after one of my medical mishaps. When I was hospitalized, the first thing that they gave me was vegetable broth. So good I could not believe because I hadn't eaten in, like, a week, you know? And so I was like, oh, my God. When I drank that broth out of that little cup, I was like, this is the most delicious thing I've ever had. And when I got home, my aunt gave as a present a, like, a box of vegetable broth for me and Stephanie to celebrate with.
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Oh, it's, like, so warming and salty, and you feel like you're like a hobbit. Been on this journey through the woods, and then you finally get shelter. Well, it made me think of, like, Frodo Baggins, you know?
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You know? Come on.
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When you have broth, you feel like you've been in the wilderness.
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You're in the Lord of the Rings. Yes, it is a chilly night, so it's a good night for the cup.
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It's really bringing me a lot of joy. And that's what. What you said. That's such an interesting Point about gratitude. Like, when you haven't eaten for a few days, then suddenly everything's like flavor explosion. And.
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Oh, I. I didn't think I would ever move on from having just vegetable broth. I was like, I'm all set. Yeah, I'm good. Moving forward.
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That's why they do those dopamine detoxes where you stay in the dark for a long time. No. No screens, but not even any sunlight. Like. And then when you emerge, everything's so beautiful because we're. We're too dopamine exhausted, and it's. Yeah, yeah. So if you stay in the pitch black for a while, we should do a pod from the pitch black.
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I've been interested in doing one of those, like, meditative weekends where you just sit in a small, dark closet, essentially.
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Totally. I'm. I'm up for that.
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And food is delivered to you.
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And so I kind of thought Lake Arrowhead would be like that, but
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you
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ordered way too many things on Amazon.
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I know. There was no deprivation or meditation.
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You ordered so much stuff on Amazon that when people boycotted it, it made no difference because of how much you bought.
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I was the reason.
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Yeah. Yeah. It all evened out.
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Yeah.
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I've done one of those tanks where you. It's dark, and you're in. Floating in the water.
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What's that?
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Like, is that.
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What is. Is that.
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What is that called? Sensory deprivation chamber.
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I. At first, I was like, I'm gonna drown. But. But then once you kind of, like, let yourself go, your body does start floating, and then. And then at, like, at first, it's hard to get comfortable, but then once you do, it's pretty great.
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How long are you in there?
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I think I was in there, like, an hour.
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Whoa.
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And why are you.
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My couter was real soggy, y'.
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All. Is that when you pulled out, like, an iron or a steamer?
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It was pruned for sure.
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Oh, my God.
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Fortune, Marie. Fortune. Marie.
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But I was in there a long time, and that's what happens.
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I kind of can't imagine you. Well, I. I'm. I'm not trying to imagine With a pruned cooter.
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I've tried to imagine that many times.
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Take a ride.
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But what did you think about that whole hour?
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What's it called?
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Imagination.
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What's this whole thing?
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I don't have a memory of your cooter, but I do have a memory of it.
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I'm like, take a ride down memory lane, your imagination. What did you ask me?
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Like, what did you think about in there? And did you sing to yourself or something?
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You just kind of. I think you. The thing you want to get to is like sort of a meditative state where you're just kind of being. At first you're thinking about a thousand things, but then if you kind of like give yourself over to it, it does become very relaxing.
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Yeah.
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I was super into it by, like, halfway through, but then I never went back. And I have heard that some people have gotten pink eye from doing this.
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Yeah. Someone I know? Yeah.
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Pink eye and shrivel.
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K. Yeah.
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Are we using this moment as a dating service?
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Queen do.
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Wait, I'm laughing, but I don't know why. What's do?
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What's what?
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Wait, you just sounded like me. Me?
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Yeah.
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I'm laughing.
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What's queen do?
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Quido. It means be careful in Spanish.
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Oh, I. You're referencing Queen Dotto or something?
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Oh, no, just Queen auto.
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I wasn't listening.
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I'm just bilingual. I don't know what to tell you. After I watch Bad Bunny do the halftime show. I'm a real bilingual gal.
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Yeah, I'm still thinking about it.
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Good stuff. You didn't go to the other kid.
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Rocks. Yeah, I missed it.
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Look out.
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I was halfway through my cucumber sandwich before I realized I was sitting in the middle of a disc golf course.
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Box.
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A lot of people shower in the dark there. That's supposed to be really good. Turn off the lights when you shower.
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Why? Good for what?
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I don't know.
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Good for nothing.
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Good for nothing. Good for like.
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You'll know that I want to shower in the dark.
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I know.
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You don't have to, Fortune. Maybe some people do.
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I shower in the morning. I'm a morning shower and I use it as a way of waking up.
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Of course.
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So I want the light.
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Oh, I see.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That makes more sense actually. Yeah.
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Have you ever had your coffee in the shower with you to double wake up?
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Yeah. Or when I'm in a huge rush. I've done that.
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Yeah, I've had it in the bathtub with me.
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Hello.
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I love a water situation. Just put me in water, let me float and I'm gonna be living my best life.
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Yeah, me too.
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I like the pool. I like the tits out hot tub. I like the bathtub. I like a shower. Like a pontoon situation.
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I can't believe I forgot about tits out hot tub.
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You can't forget about tits out. Yeah.
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Because it was. Because your hot tub is not too short. It's too short.
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It's just a little shy visual. It really is. Especially on a cold day.
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The only way to get warm is to, like, lay. You have to, like, lay down in the. In the hot tub.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Otherwise my neighbors are seeing my chi cheese.
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Your chi cheese. That's a new one.
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I'm bilingual. I told you.
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Is that what they call.
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I don't think that's the formal Spanish word for booze.
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Like a doctor. If you went to a doctor in Mexico City, they wouldn't.
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Let's check out these cheap chi cheese. I don't know not. You guys don't know much about that.
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I don't know much about anything, really.
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Really? Yeah.
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I'm along for the ride.
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I don't think that's true at all. I believe it is.
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I don't believe that I know about chichis, but I did not.
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That's what I've heard. Yeah.
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Take knows her way around some chichis.
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These handsome. These handsomes know their way around some GGs.
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That is.
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Right. That's what our podcast is known.
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Well, but it's. Well, like, people. Like, people have. I never know if you're sleeping with someone. Like, some people like you to do stuff with their chi chi. Some people really don't. So you never.
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People are like, hands off the chi cheese.
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Yeah.
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You know, y' all know me. I like a motor button.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fortune, you were on one today.
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Fortune. Shriveled coot. Marie Fortune.
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Did you give me another middle name? Fortune.
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Shriveled coot.
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Dribble Coots Marie.
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No, just singular Shrivel Coot Trouble.
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Coop. Sorry.
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It's triple coop, Marie. Triple boots.
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Yeah. What's going on with you? You're. You're. You're riled. You're.
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I've been. I've been filming all day.
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Oh, okay.
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And waking up at like 4:30 in the morning, so I'm. I don't know why I'm bouncing off the walls right now. I should be passing out.
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Well, how was your shoot today?
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It was great. I got to do some stunt work. By that I mean my stunt person did the stunt and I laid on the ground and popped up and went, oh,
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so you do your own stunts?
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I sure do. I did more stunts in fubar. This one was a tough stunt. So I said, I'm gonna tap out on this one. Yeah. But the other day, I did a. A lot of my. What was. They had A stunt person doing it, but I did a lot of it as well.
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Have you guys ever had to get, like, slapped in something?
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And then.
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And I'm. I did, and I was like, can you just do it for real? Because it's so hard to act the like. And this was with Toni Collette, and she was like, no, of course you wouldn't do it. Well, she was like, I'm not gonna. Yeah, she was like, just act right, Right.
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Did she say it with an Australian accent?
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I think so, yeah.
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Did I tell you about the time when I was on the Sarah Silverman program 10 billion years ago and I had a show in San Francisco and they called me. Wait, what? Me?
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I just took a sip of soup and then I'm like, chewing the rice and it made me laugh.
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Sorry. So.
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It's okay, I understand. So I'm in San Francisco for a weekend of shows and I get a call from production saying they need me to fly down to LA during, you know, on Friday or whatever. During the, like, first flight out Friday morning, get slapped in the face by Jay Johnston, who was at the Insurrection. I don't know.
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Wait, yes. Jay Johnson.
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I don't know who this is.
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He was at the Insurrection?
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Yeah, he played my police cop buddy in Sarah Silverman. But anyway, so I had to fly down that morning, get in my cop suit and full makeup, slaps me in the face, and then go straight to the airport, fly back to San Francisco and get on stage that night.
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That's wild.
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Yeah. And it was a point in my life where, you know, I was making appearances on Sarah's show and I was headlining at a comedy club and I felt like the biggest star in the world, that they were flying me down to LA to get us Southwest Suburban for sure. Just. Just for Jay to slap me in the face.
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Like, I've made it, baby.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh, man. Yeah.
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I did a self tape today for to play an androgynous sex robot.
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Oh, I think you can do that.
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I think it's in my wheelhouse. It kind of.
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Yeah.
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Spectrumy sex robot. But it was. It's so embarrassing. Self tapes are so embarrassing. I just. Yeah. Get a friend to help me. And the scene opens with me laughing, but I don't know what came before it.
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Oh, we don't know why you're laughing.
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I don't know why I'm laughing.
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And I didn't know robots had a sense of humor.
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Well, this one has some human, like, qualities. I think they've hacked the algorithm or something.
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Can we Hear the laugh that you.
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Well, okay, I got confused because it's a sex robot. So I'm like, is it.
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That is.
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Yeah. So I think I just murdered a bunch of people and I maybe be laughing at that. And so I go. I go, no, wait, it wasn't like that. It was more. It was more flirty.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, it was like, thank you. That's how I did it. It was more of a chuckle.
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Oh, just a little chuckle.
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Yeah.
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You didn't go full force. Like,
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I should have done that. I should have done that.
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Regrets that would.
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If I was casting something and someone made that bold choice. Damn.
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Yeah, maybe.
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Maybe your robot just murdered a bunch of people and you're laughing.
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No, no. That is what it is.
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That is what it is.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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I didn't know you knew why you were laughing.
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Well, I don't. I. I don't know if something was said, but I know I have just murdered people, but I don't know why I would be laughing. Like, I.
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Because that.
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It was so easy.
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Oh, right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then.
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And then. Do you have. You have to have sex?
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I'm trying to seduce Alexander Skarsgard. Kind of. I'm not gonna get the part, let's be honest. But we don't know this.
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No, we don't.
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Pretty good.
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That. It was a chuckle.
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It was a chuckle. But maybe that's what they want.
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Fake laughing is really. Well, clearly not that hard. Tig just nailed it.
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But, you know, it's the hardest thing to do. What is to yawn.
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So.
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Yeah, it doesn't look real. May for sure does not. You can't. You can't put your hand up there. You gotta really show. No, no, guys.
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But I just really yawned.
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No, it still looks.
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That was a legit real yawn.
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You know what cracks me up to
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me, like, yell at my yawn fortune.
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I learned a new trick from Kim Kardashian today.
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Oh, what's that?
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I was in the scene and I felt like I was gonna have to sneeze. And I was like, I think I'm gonna sneeze. And it wasn't happening. And she. And there was a big crane with a light on it. She said, look into the light.
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You never heard that?
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No, I turned around on the light and immediately sneezed.
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Yeah, that.
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I've heard that.
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That. That's as old as time,
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but I've never heard this.
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Yeah, I've heard that, but I've never tried it.
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Is it.
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How is that? It works. It Works for you.
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Like, I literally sneeze like that.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, I'm trying it now, but I guess I didn't have to sneeze to begin with.
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Exactly. You have to sneeze. You have to be.
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You have to have it all built up. Yeah. It's a terrible feeling when a sneeze is about to get away from you.
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Do you. Is it true that if you sneeze with your eyes open, your eyeballs pop out?
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Yes. Okay, thanks. I know many people who have lost their eyes to such a thing. I feel like my. I have really intense sneezes. I scare the whole house. The cats jump and run, and the alarm gets set off. It's really bad. Like, if I tried to bring it down a notch, I think my brain would just come flying out of my ears.
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That's like.
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No, that's like the most dad thing about you I've heard. That's such a dad thing that their sneezes are like.
B
Wait, that's the most dad thing you've. Have you heard other things that weren't quite so daddish?
A
Just that I've heard about you. Yeah. Yeah. Just when I picture you doing big sneezes in the house, I'm like, dad energy.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Big dad energy. BDE that's right. That and that suit you're wearing.
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We have a really exciting question.
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Yeah. Coming from a really exciting mouth that's attached to a really exciting person.
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Person.
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Yeah. Huh?
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Big fan.
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Yeah, yeah. Samesies.
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You'll hear about our guest in a second, but it's a real legend. She's been in the biz, as they say, for a long time.
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I know.
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Very long.
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And this is one that. This is a question you got for us, Tig. I just say it still blows my mind that people like icons like this are sending in cues to this little pod.
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I know it. And icons like this are still so active in the world, doing cool, great things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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Today's question. Oscar is an actor, fitness guru and activist who's won countless awards, including multiple Oscars, Golden Globes, and Emmys. She's been an outspoken anti war advocate and feminist icon for decades. One of her workout videos is the highest selling VHS tape of all time. Jane Fonda is asking today's question.
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Oh, I've Jazzercised with this gal a time or two.
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Jazzercised with Jane.
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Yes. Right.
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Hi, this is Jane Fonda, and I'm on the Handsome Project. And I'm also on my way to Santa Barbara to the film festival because I have a documentary called Gaslit that's being shown there. That's why I'm all dressed up and made up nice. So my question for you all, which is an important question, because the people that appear to be in charge of this country right now want us to be hopeless, confused, chaotic and hopeless. So remaining hopefully is basically an act of defiance and it's absolutely needed right now. So my question for you is, how do you remain hopeful?
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Wow, that's a question.
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A good question.
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She's seen a lot in her lifetime.
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She really has. And she's hearing that from her makes me feel hopeful. Like it's just so reassuring to. Whenever she speaks, I think, can I
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just tell you right out of the gate what makes me feel hopeful?
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What?
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Just Jane Fonda.
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She looks so good.
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Well, she's 88 years old. That's okay.
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Wild.
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Yeah, absolutely. And she, she so personifies like the type of hope that is not just because, like, if the definition of hope is like expecting a, A, a positive outcome, like, like trying to, trying to confidently believe that, that a positive outcome can happen. And I, I don't know, sometimes I get, I get down or I get pessimistic because I, yeah. And, and I, or I think that being hopeful is like a, a cop out and like I can't be hopeful and angry or something. But she's hopeful and angry and she's, her brand of hope is like empowering. It's like we have the power to make these changes. It's not just like, well this, you know, this will sort itself out. It's like she is up doing stuff because she's seen firsthand the effect that, that lobbying can have an activism and that's so encouraging to be like, this can make a difference. There's like things like, like boycotts and protests and bringing attention and awareness to things and lobbying that it does make a difference. That is good.
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Did she expand on why she's glad to be live in these times?
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I mean, I think I didn't have a follow up question for her. I think it was more the, the vibe and I could have been wrong is I, I don't even know that she's, that it was like, not like
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she's having a, like oh, what a great time.
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But yeah, no, more like there was a feeling of hopefulness of like we can turn this around. And I'm glad I'm still here to contribute. Yeah.
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And like let's get to work and,
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and that there's, there's so much wonderful stuff on the other side of it all. But that really stuck with me.
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Yeah. And I wonder if like generationally, she's, she's not in this social media algorithm and news, negative news cycle that, that is so overwhelming and makes you feel so, so paralyzed and so negative about human nature and makes you feel like people are so divided in such an extreme way. Like maybe she's, she's outside of that. You know what I mean?
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Well, also when you hear from an older person who's been through different iterations of bad times, good times and bad times, and that she remains hopeful. That helps.
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Yeah.
D
Well, I think be hopeful because. Yeah. Oh, she's seen some low lows and seen the country, the world get through those things and yeah, like the, the hills and valleys of it.
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Yeah. I find it so hopeful. People could just end up sitting on a couch watching the news, complaining and that's the end of the story.
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Yeah, this like being outraged and echoing the outrage but not offering solutions or chasing solutions. And I'm trying to remember, like I'm, I can be like that. I, I'm, I do feel today I feel good, but some days I do feel really overwhelmed and like paralyzed by the insanity. And, and, and then I did the other day, I was googling stuff, you know, as, and Then I found, like, a study that was over decades measuring empathy in people and. And kindness and generosity in the study showed, like, there's been no deterioration in human empathy and kindness and stuff like that. We are actually wired for altruism. Altruism and community and kindness. That's like, we are wired that way as animals, and so that's reassuring. And that all the conflicts we're experiencing and division hopefully can lead to, like, you need that to break down the old way and build something new, I hope. I don't know.
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And so you were specifically Googling what,
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like, are people bad?
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Are.
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Is human nature bad? Are people. Are people getting worse?
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I think, yeah.
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Are we in a moral decline? Like, where.
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And you're asking Google?
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Yes. Why not Talk to chat GPT?
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No, not ChatGPT.
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The AI that's taking over all of us.
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No, I'm not gonna use him again. But yeah, just like, I'm trying to get a zoom out and get a picture of, like, is this. Are we spiraling towards really the end? Because it can feel like that with.
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With everything.
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And. And then I. So I'm trying to actively think, like, even the word apocalypse. I was listening to a podcast. Apocalypse means to reveal something new. So it. Yeah, it's a. Hopefully we're gonna. We're hitting a real rock bottom in terms of, like, corruption and depravity and having a, you know, a country like, lots of countries in history have been revealed to be run by kind of an organized crime ring, basically. Like, and hopefully now it's out in the open. This is. This is what we're gonna need to.
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And how does it feel for somebody like yourself who is not from this country?
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Yeah, weird.
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And I know there's corruption all over the world and there always has been and there always will be, but to be smack dab in the middle of what is going on in a country that you aren't even from, like, yeah,
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I feel like I. I feel like I'm a masochist for. But then I also feel, like, scared to say stuff and, like, I can't or I don't have a right to get as engaged and involved as I want to be. And, you know, I'm worried about my. My green card application and stuff, so that's a weird place to be. But, yeah, it is really weird. A lot of my friends in Canada are like, what are you doing? And, yeah, it's such a strange time. You see, like, Olympic athletes and stuff saying, it's. It's a very strange time to Be out representing America. But then also so many amazing people are here. And the best of. It's like the best and the worst. Yeah. But it is a really uniquely surreal, surreal time.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, we're getting more information than ever. It's so there in your face. And news is now entertainment.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, you want to stay informed, but these times are requiring you to dig a little bit more because it's crazy how many videos are popping up now that are. AI.
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Yeah.
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And are fake. And it's so easy to, like, see a headline on this and be like, oh, my God, this. But it's, you're required to, like, go a step further to be like, is that true? So there's like a duty on our end to not just bury your head in the sand and have this ignorance is bliss attitude. Otherwise, atrocities continue to happen without any checks and balances. So you have to be present in that way. But I think what makes me stay hopeful is also remembering to go out into the world and be around people and, and, you know, especially with the job that we have of traveling as standups, it'll, it allows us to meet a lot more people than maybe we would if we stayed in our bubble. And then when I'm out in the world and I meet so many different people, that makes me hopeful because it reminds me like, oh, there are a lot of really good, kind people in all these different cities and states. Red states, blue states.
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Yeah.
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And when I can experience life in person and, and you know, sure, you see people act like dicks, but you also see a lot of empathy, kindness, and that makes me go, okay, there's a lot of us out there, a lot of nice people out there. Yeah. And that will, you know, that's what we need.
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Yeah. Like, I want, I want to do a, a pruning of. So not to bring up pruned Cooter again, but, like a pruning of my Instagram.
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Please do.
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Yeah. Especially if it's fortunes.
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I want to prune fortunes. No, I want to, like, on my Instagram, make sure I'm only following people who are really.
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That's my, that's my burner account.
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Prune Cooter. Like people who are really informed account.
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Is that what it's called?
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I don't know what that is.
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It's called a fake account.
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Fin stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, like, I, I, I'm accidentally following all of these random sites that are just putting endless pictures of, like, confrontations with people. And, and, and yeah, I, I Want to be following really informed people who are posting longer content or directing to places to donate or actions to take or solutions like I got it because I I'm really bad with Instagram I it and I'm constantly watching full blown murders in front of my eyes. It's like we're not meant to synthesize all this stuff. I think so yeah. I'm trying to stay and with our platforms just directing people to actual things they can do locally and nationally to help because there are things and then the minute you do something local and you see the change, you feel so empowered and hopeful.
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One of the hope too is that you know, when things swing one way really far, the hope is that it swings back at some point in the other direction. So that there is that where we're in this space right now. The hope is that it swings back over we gotta make it swing elections happen. And I know that it gets scary when you hear people will be like I'm you're never gonna get rid of me. I'm gonna go over third terms and fourth terms. The hope is that our again the checks and balances of our judiciary system stay in place and protect us from the. That demand like you know, monarch here, not, not even monarchy dictatorship that we can remain a governing body that where people can vote on.
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Well that's. I mean recognizing that that's a real threat of losing that and then really demanding it and and like calling your representatives and flooding them with phone calls and demand like that stuff really has an impact because it really disrupts things like that that five year old who was in the ice camp and and was released. Liam, he. That was from pressure.
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Yeah, that was from pressure.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean heartbreaking all the other kids who are still in there. But like that that spotlight that we can put on things does help I think in a way.
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Absolutely. Why don't you have to.
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The, the people coming up, the young people care. They gotta care. They gotta show up and vote and do things and be active and be participants and not just let things happen to us as a society and as a country. Do you have to see that that participation and and the hope is that they will give a about what happens.
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I sometimes accidentally I'm like, well either I'm like oh I hope the grownups fix this or I'm like I hope these teens come and fix this. And I'm like I'm the grown up. I. I forget like who looks like a teen.
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Who looks like a teen, sure and can fix this.
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But like, we are the. No one is coming to help us. We are the adults. And so, yeah, yeah, of course, pressures on Gen Z to sort this out, but like, yeah, let's help them.
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Behind you, may.
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I do feel, listen, I don't ever
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miss a vote, ever. No, man, I have been. I've always taken that very seriously. Yeah, My, my grandmother was very active. My mom was very active. My mom still to this day volunteers at the polls every election. So there's not one vote that I miss.
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Yeah, that's so nice. Ginger's. Ginger seems like a very active person. Like you said, the LGBT parents group and stuff. Like, she gets involved, gets her hands dirty.
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P Flag.
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P Flag.
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P Flag. Is there a P Flag in Canada or England?
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There must be.
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Should we hear what Jane has to say?
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Yes, please. I hope she helps us, gives us
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some, some pointers, and I hope she does too.
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Come on, Jane.
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From Jane. We're hopeful. Jane makes us hopeful.
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I've experienced personally and have witnessed enough change in my lifetime to know that hopelessness is not only self defeating, it's unrealistic. You know, writer Annie Lamott said, if you want to be hopeful, if you want to have hopeful feelings, do hopeful things. This would include paying attention and noticing when things are going well. Celebrating incremental victories and improvements instead of waiting for the big final victory. Engage in caring and nurturing activities. They promote hopefulness. And by the way, my current action which you've participated in, tig, working with the entertainment industry to protect the First Amendment and electricity. People to office who don't kowtow to corporations, but work for people and the planet. These actions have helped me remain hopeful. You know, the young climate activist Greta Thunberg, she says everybody goes looking for hope. Look for action and hope will come. And another quote that I love, this is the Vaclav Hub. He was a very famous playwright in Czechoslovakia. He was imprisoned by the Communists in 1985. He said, Hope is the ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance for success. Five years later, communism fell and Vaclav Havel became president. You never know how things are going to turn out. So take action and be hopeful.
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I love it. I mean, how do you not want advice? Yeah, like, yeah, the best. The best.
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Yeah. I like that Greta Thunberg quote as well. I'm trying. Yeah. I mean, if. Send us. If you're. If you're listening and you have info organizations that you think would be good for us to be aware of or ideas for the Handsome community to get involved. You're on the. The Reddit page that I never look at. Just kidding. I look at it a lot. Suggest some. Some stuff locally. You know, meet up with each other. Let's.
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Fortune loves a meetup.
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So many meetups. Yeah. Constantly meeting up. Well, it's gotta start in your, you know, start in your community.
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Absolutely.
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Start in your neighborhood. Yeah, you gotta start somewhere. I think that's the problem is everything feels so big and out of your control and outta your hands. And when things feel so big and overwhelming, people tend to go, well, there's nothing I can do about it. And they just go on about their. Their lives. But there are things that you can do, and it has to start. And they always say, start at a local level. Start around your town, around your city, and find ways to make that place better and grow it from there.
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And I think people get intimidated and they're like, oh, I've never done this, or I've never shown up to some community gathering or political event. And, you know, I think that it's so cliche, but showing up is half of it. Yes. I mean, really, it's. Whether you're pursuing your dream or showing up to political causes and you don't even know where to start. Yeah, just showing up. People will point you in the right direction because they will be absolutely thrilled that you're there.
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Yeah, You're. You're.
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You'll be.
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You'll feel that love as soon as you get there and be welcomed with open arms. I've been volunteering at the. At Food on Foot in la and, And I've never done that before. And I was totally nervous the first time that I was just gonna do it wrong or I was gonna. It was gonna be scary. And. And now I'm Almost every Sunday I'm there. It makes me feel so great.
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That's amazing.
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Me, I'm loving it. And they.
B
Yeah.
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And every time I've been. They've run out of food for the line. So, like, you know, give what you can.
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And I thought you're saying that, like, it's a really great thing.
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Oh, every time they run right out of food, it's like they, they need support. And they're one of many organizations that you have no idea what a difference your 20 bucks a month would make or your whatever. And the end the boycotting, the economic activism. This whole situation is caused by GRE money. And that's something we have.
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Look at Jimmy Kimmel.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's just the perfect example yeah. Unbelievable when people were like, yeah, we're out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's the king on top.
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Cancel your subscriptions and look or, or look for, you know, support minority owned companies and alternatives. Some of our sponsors are really great alternatives to things like. Yeah, Amazon, even Whole Foods, I think is sketchy. So.
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But that's what's, that's the thing is that when, you know, people are seeing these things happen and they're like, that's not right. It is amazing to see people, you know, coming together very quickly. You know, like you said with the Kimmel thing, like, they canceled all these subscriptions and it, and it quickly reversed what was happening. And then, I mean, even in Minneapolis, you know, you're seeing the entire communities, you know, showing up to help other people. Obviously there are, you know, things that
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have happened there and not backing down. I mean, it is incredible. And with the weather and the crowds turning out, it's just, it's really beautiful around such a. Sad, sad.
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Yeah, that's. But I'm, I'm really loving there. There are a few people right now who are fighting for the accountability for Epstein perpetrators. And, and they're out there and they, their refrain is, we will not let this go. And yeah, we, that's what they're hoping we'll do, that we'll just be so overwhelmed. We'll go, oh, yeah, there's.
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It's just too much that people will just again turn a blind eye. But people are going, no, don't let this go. It would be so easy to just walk in your house and ignore it. And they're like, no. Yeah, so that's what, that's what's gonna make change. And seeing people be so brave is another thing that helps with the hope.
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Yeah.
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And there's some serious bravery going on right now in the world. As much as there is horrendousness, the bravery that is in action is.
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It's very inspiring.
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It really is. I'm beside myself when I see the bravery that is going on.
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I mean, an ex girlfriend, close friend of mine who I think I've talked about who's in Gaza now with Doctors Without Borders and the bravery. I can't even talk about it without crime, but I'm like, there are hundreds of thousands of people out there doing that, putting their lives at risk to bring aid. Yeah, sorry, yeah.
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A lot of selfless people out there.
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Yeah, it's, it's really beautiful to see that kind of action going on.
A
But also, don't beat yourself up if you know, and then get paralyzed and in a. Like, just do the little thing that you feel you can.
B
Yeah.
A
And then that will lead to another
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thing and another thing and just show up. Whether it's to a friendship, a march, or your dream, showing up is really, really powerful.
A
Yeah.
B
Well, how about that?
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How about we got serious today.
B
Yeah, we really did.
D
Good thing I talked about Cooters earlier. Yeah.
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Thank God. So we covered all our faces
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and Hollywood events, man. Yes.
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I'm going to get a massage after this, actually. I don't know why I just said that, but thank you for sharing.
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That was brave.
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I mean, that's showing up. You're gonna show up for a massage.
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You just said brave. Yeah.
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Hashtag brave.
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I love you too. Talking about this made me need a massage. I'm gonna go show up.
A
I'm gonna show up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What? It's so March 10th. What do you guys got coming up soon? Well, we, we have this live show I'm very excited about. May 4th. Handsome at the Wiltern as part of Netflix is a joke fest with Britney Snow and Malin Aerman in Los Angeles.
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Yes, that's Los Angeles.
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Yes.
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Cidado.
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I have the Oscars this week. No big deal. Yeah, yeah. Exciting. This Sunday and then I'm also on tour and you can catch me in Connecticut and Maine and New Jersey and California and Washington state. Just so many in New York. I don't even know what to tell you. Oregon, I'm coming for you. Montana. Go to tignotaro.com and also come see me in the good light on Apple tv. The documentary I produced about Andrea Gibson.
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I'm, I, I will have, when this comes out, I will have just finished my first little chunk of tour and on March 17th, I'm in Minneapolis. We just added an extra show at 9:30. And then Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and New York and Philadelphia on this really long stint. So please come to all those ones. There's still tickets on maymartin.net yeah.
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Starting in April, I'm in Oklahoma City, Fayetteville, Arkansas, and Little Rock, Arkansas, San Antonio, Dallas, Texas, Des Moines, Toronto, Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Omaha, Portland, Maine and Detroit. So check out a show. That's one of our small ways to try to help other people be hopeful. Is going around this country and trying to make people laugh and bring some levity and also bring in groups of people together that, you know, share that same energy and love and acceptance and hopefully spreads that out to everybody else.
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Yes, indeed.
A
I think all of us are have that experience of our shows. I'm sure maybe all comics feel this, but I feel like our particular fan base is so full of warmth and connectivity and it's really a nice vibe. If you're feeling down, come out and give a stranger a hug.
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What a podcast.
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That was a headgum podcast.
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Release Date: March 10, 2026
Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Special Guest: Jane Fonda
This lively episode of "Handsome" sees comedians Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Mae Martin tackle a question from the legendary Jane Fonda: "How do you remain hopeful?" The trio reflects on where they find hope amid challenging times, share personal stories, and dissect what hope means in action—not just theory. Fonda herself offers profound thoughts on hope as a form of defiance, drawing from her decades of activism.
“My question for you all, which is an important question, because the people that appear to be in charge of this country right now want us to be hopeless, confused, chaotic and hopeless. So remaining hopeful is basically an act of defiance and it’s absolutely needed right now. So my question for you is, how do you remain hopeful?” (33:05)
“Hopelessness is not only self-defeating, it’s unrealistic…If you want to be hopeful…do hopeful things. Celebrate incremental victories and improvements instead of waiting for the big final victory. Engage in caring and nurturing activities—they promote hopefulness…My current action…working with the entertainment industry to protect the First Amendment…These actions have helped me remain hopeful.” (51:12)
“Look for action, and hope will come.”
“Hope is the ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance for success.”
The episode is characterized by a playful, intimate, and often absurd style (think: “tits out hot tub,” "pruned cooter"), balanced by sincerity and depth when tackling the topic of hope. The comedians’ camaraderie and openness make weighty issues accessible and actionable, sustained by Jane Fonda’s inspirational gravitas.
The hosts—and Fonda herself—insist on hope as a deliberate practice rooted in action, resilience, and community. Whether through civic engagement, personal kindness, volunteering, or collective economic activism, the message is: Start local, show up, and celebrate every small win. As Fonda puts it: “You never know how things are going to turn out. So take action and be hopeful.”