Jerry O'Connell asks about invitations

Summary

Episode Summary: "Jerry O'Connell Asks About Invitations"

Release Date: March 25, 2025
Hosts: Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster
Guest: Jerry O'Connell

In this engaging episode of "Handsome", Jerry O'Connell poses a thought-provoking question about handling invitations to events one might not want to attend. Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster delve into their personal experiences, societal pressures, and practical strategies for navigating such social dilemmas. The conversation is laced with humor, relatable anecdotes, and insightful reflections, making it a valuable listen for anyone grappling with similar situations.

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Mae Martin's Lip Tint Controversy

The episode kicks off with a candid discussion led by Mae Martin about a recent controversy surrounding her appearance on the "Daily Show." Mae reveals that her lips appeared unnaturally pink on camera, sparking speculation about whether she was wearing lipstick.

Mae Martin [04:03]:
"I've lost my mind because I did put on this, like, lip tint and then I didn't expect it to look. I just thought I would look healthy."

Mae explains how the unintended result of the lip tint led to overwhelming reactions online, with some fans defending her choice, making her question her initial response. She grapples with the idea of whether to openly confess her use of lip tint or maintain her position.

Mae Martin [05:10]:
"It's actually. It's a lip tint by Benefit that usually... look like bright pink. And then I didn't expect it to look that pink."

Hosts Share Makeup and Appearance Stories

Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Jerry O'Connell join Mae in sharing their own experiences with makeup and hair-related mishaps, highlighting the pressures of maintaining appearances in the public eye.

Jerry O'Connell [08:05]:
"They put like a little lip tint on me... When the clips came out, I was like, why are my lips so big?"

Tig Notaro [12:13]:
"I've had that happen, too, when I've... they put a little bit and it was fine."

These stories emphasize the universal struggle with managing personal appearance and the sometimes absurd outcomes that can result from cosmetic applications.

Strategies for Declining Unwanted Invitations

When addressing Jerry O'Connell's central question about how to handle invitations to events one doesn't want to attend, each host offers their unique perspective and strategies.

Thomas Willette [40:20]:
"I think I just feel like, you know, people get too involved in their excuses to get out of things when it's really okay to say, I'm not going to be able to make it."

Thomas Willette [40:59]:
"But if it's just a random invite, I just don't have any problem saying I'm not going to be able to make it. Thanks for the invite."

Mae Martin shares her lifelong goal to improve her ability to say no without over-promising or feeling guilty.

Mae Martin [41:39]:
"But that's like a real lifelong goal for me is sort that shit out because yeah, don't over promise."

Overcoming Social Pressures and Setting Boundaries

The conversation delves deeper into societal expectations around attendance and the importance of setting personal boundaries to maintain mental well-being.

Thomas Willette [40:20]:
"If it's somebody's birthday or their book is coming out or something I care about supporting, I feel like that overrides it for me. But if it's just a random invite, I just don't have any problem saying I'm not going to be able to make it."

Mae Martin discusses the anxiety associated with declining invitations and the internal conflict between being supportive and preserving her own mental health.

Mae Martin [41:55]:
"My problem is I want to go to everything. I'm excited by the invitation. In the moment. I have every intention of going. And then something happens and then I'm like, can I."

Humorous Interludes and Personal Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, the hosts infuse humor by sharing lighthearted and often absurd stories related to makeup mishaps, haircuts, and social interactions.

Jerry O'Connell [25:02]:
"Have I told you guys this?"

Mae Martin [49:14]:
"I was humiliated."

These anecdotes not only entertain listeners but also underscore the relatable nature of the discussion, making the episode both insightful and enjoyable.

Upcoming Events and Community Engagement

As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts take a moment to promote their upcoming events, tours, and projects, reinforcing the sense of community among the "Handsome" listeners.

Jerry O'Connell [58:46]:
"Our Austin show on April 12 is going to be live streamed. There are no tickets left, so that's the only way to see it."

Mae Martin [60:10]:
"I'm at Largo on March 28 and then April 25. And also what I would love so much is if people listen to my album..."

They encourage listeners to subscribe, share episodes, and engage with their content across various platforms, fostering a supportive and interactive community.

Conclusion

In this episode of "Handsome," Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster, along with guest Jerry O'Connell, provide a thoughtful exploration of the challenges associated with accepting or declining social invitations. Through a blend of personal stories, humor, and practical advice, the hosts offer listeners both entertainment and actionable insights into managing social pressures and setting healthy boundaries.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mae Martin [04:03]:
  "I've lost my mind because I did put on this, like, lip tint and then I didn't expect it to look."

• Thomas Willette [40:20]:
  "I'm just not going to be able to make it. Thanks for the invite."

• Jerry O'Connell [08:05]:
  "Why are my lips so big?"

• Fortune Feimster [02:37]:
  "Bed is a magical place. So it should work for everything."

These quotes capture the essence of the hosts' experiences and the central themes discussed throughout the episode.

Transcript

[Mae Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Fortune Feimster]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Cheers.

[Tig Notaro]

Cheers.

[Mae Martin]

Welcome to the handsome pod. It's me, May Martin. I'm joined by my worst one. That's the worst one I've ever done. I think that was hell. I'm so sorry.

[Thomas Willette]

Not a problem. And it is I, your other co host, Tig Notaro.

[Mae Martin]

I think I panicked because I was gonna do it in a British accent because I'm in London, and then I thought I'd want to slap myself.

[Thomas Willette]

How much longer are you in London?

[Mae Martin]

Five more days. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Do you have a bunch of shows.

[Mae Martin]

Or are you done? My shows. I did my last music tour show and then now I'm just, like, catching up with old friends and writing with my writing partner and. Yeah, it's nice.

[Thomas Willette]

Is your writing partner who you did your TV show with?

[Mae Martin]

I did feel good with him. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, okay.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. But do you notice anything different about me, guys?

[Thomas Willette]

The goatee.

[Mae Martin]

Yes. I've grown a goatee.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wait, no, I.

[Thomas Willette]

It looks good.

[Mae Martin]

I got a haircut from Debbie.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, yes, yes, yes, of course, the haircut from Debbie. But I have a question about. Do you have a gray gown hanging in the back?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yeah, it looks like two gray gowns.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, I have two gray gowns for me and my old. My 80 year old friend Tabitha.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wait, what?

[Mae Martin]

No, I'm just. No, I'm just in a hotel room and they got two robes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, those are robes.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, they look like gowns.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It looks like for twins or something.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, yeah. That would be interesting if you found out that I was dressing up in drag every night in gowns privately.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. I thought you had lipstick on for a second. I thought that's what the reveal was.

[Mae Martin]

This is becoming a big controversy in my life. Do you say that? Because do you know what happened that I was on the date, I was on the Daily show and then I posted the clip.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, you're going really pink there too.

[Mae Martin]

I know. And everybody's going, is that person wearing lipstick? And is that a girl or a boy? Because it was shared on the Daily show page. And then I. So I edit my comment under it and I go, guys, I don't know why my lips look so pink. I guess I'm really healthy. But guys, this is an exclusive I can share with you. I've lost my mind because I did put on this, like, lip tint and then I didn't expect it to look. I just thought I would look healthy. I didn't think it would look that pink. And I don't know why I've now explicitly denied it.

[Thomas Willette]

So, wait, are you now revealing this on the podcast?

[Mae Martin]

Yes, because. Okay, because in the comments now I don't know what to do because you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Did put on lip tint and then it was like, nothing. Nothing to see here.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, I think what, I think what you need to do. The only thing that's right is to make a video apologizing to everybody and confessing that you did in fact put on some lipstick before your appearance.

[Mae Martin]

It's actually. It's a lip tint by benefit that usually. Usually you put it on and then it's like a stain and you wipe it off. I had no idea. It looks like bright pink. And then.

[Thomas Willette]

And did you not like how it looked?

[Mae Martin]

I hate how it looks in the video, but.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay.

[Mae Martin]

But also, everybody's like, so freaked out by it that it just confirms why I'm so weird about it. Reminds me of being in school of people being like, may's wearing makeup and me being like, no, guys, I'm not like, well, that's.

[Thomas Willette]

I can confirm that you do wear makeup.

[Mae Martin]

More than any of us.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's the only reason I asked, because I had just seen that video and. And your lips still look a little pink. And I was like, maybe Maze.

[Mae Martin]

I'm not wearing it today.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Lipstick now. So I thought you were like, what do you see?

[Mae Martin]

It's because I was going on tv. I thought, I want to look healthy. I didn't. And then the really crazy thing is that now people are in the comments, like, a lot of handsome fans are defending me. They're saying, if some makeup artist made me wear lipstick, how dare they? And I'm, like, really touched by them being protective. And now I can't double back and go, actually, guys, I did, but you can.

[Thomas Willette]

This would be the greatest video of all time if you. If you did the, you know, straight to camera apology and then come clean and just confess. But here's where I want to back up to.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Why were you so hell bent on looking healthy? What is going on with you that you're like, I just need to look healthy for this appearance?

[Mae Martin]

I think I was really tired from touring, and I felt like I looked really pale, and I was just kind of panicking and trying to control something, and I thought, now I am not.

[Thomas Willette]

A makeup person myself.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What?

[Mae Martin]

Right?

[Thomas Willette]

Hear me out. Hear me out. I am not Fortune. Hear me out. Hear me out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's crazy.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay? It is crazy, but it's true. And this is all natural beauty that you're looking at, but Fortune, it's natural beauty. So I am saying so. And even though I am not a makeup person, I can tell you that if you felt like you were looking a little pale.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Putting on some bright pink lipstick before you go on is only gonna highlight the lips and the paleness even more.

[Mae Martin]

Exactly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

You're, of course, like, I didn't put on bronzer or anything. I went. I went with a lip taint. Taint. Lip taint, not taint.

[Thomas Willette]

What are we talking about? You put lipstick on your taint.

[Mae Martin]

Okay, clearly, I don't. You guys, I'm a boy. I don't do this stuff.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I will tell you in my special good fortune that it happened to me, too.

[Mae Martin]

Are you serious?

[Jerry O'Connell]

They put like, a little.

[Thomas Willette]

You put lipstick on your taint?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, I have. I do wear some lipstick in my specials. You can see it in my last special, but it wasn't like, whoa. But in good fortune, it was like, whoa. Because they put a little bit of lip taint on me.

[Thomas Willette]

Was it May's lip tape on you?

[Jerry O'Connell]

It was a similar color. And then Something with the. Between that and the color chosen for. Because you can, you know, do the different levels of color. And in the color correction, it made it pop. So crazy. So when the clips came out, I was like, why are my lips so big? And it looks like I'm just full on.

[Thomas Willette]

And were you not happy with your lip taint?

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's just jarring when you don't do that in everyday life. And then suddenly it's like, pow. But, like, in crushing it, I had some. But it was just like a little bit and it was fine.

[Mae Martin]

I swear, backstage, it didn't look like they were bright pink. And then something happened. And it's just insane that when people were freaking out, I didn't go, guys, look, I'm a pretty little lady. I can do what I want. Yeah, I put some lip tint on. And instead. Instead I like, went hard on. No, guys, I don't know why they look like that.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay, I need to. Can we actually record the straight to video apology right now? And can we use this for May's Maze?

[Jerry O'Connell]

My message?

[Thomas Willette]

Social media? Yeah. Here we go.

[Mae Martin]

Can you help me? Like, can you set it up for me? Like, I. I need help being brave, so I need you to be part of it. I want to see you be brave.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is that the lyrics that help?

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. I want to see pink taint.

[Mae Martin]

What you want to do?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I want to hear you be brave. Which one is it? See or here?

[Mae Martin]

It must be C. I wanna.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I wanna. Great songs. Sarah Bareilles, your friend.

[Mae Martin]

Look, we'll just. We'll chop up what I've already said and we'll make a. And I'll do. I'll do like a two.

[Thomas Willette]

No, we want us straight to video right now.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Start with two.

[Thomas Willette]

One. Please. Please hold. Fortune and Meg, you're on.

[Mae Martin]

The past couple of days have been really difficult for me, and I thought a lot about what I want to say, and I just want to say, particularly to the people that believed in me and who trusted me, that I. I specifically said online that I was not wearing any kind of lipstick. In fact, I said. I don't know. I used the words. I don't know why it looks like I'm wearing lipstick.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Gaslighting.

[Mae Martin]

I need to tell you. I was gaslighting you. I did put on, for the first time ever, pink taint. You know what? It wasn't even the first time ever.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There's been other times.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, I put on, like, a lip tint, and then I thought it looked normal backstage. I go out, I see the clips it looks like I'm wearing anyway, I should have owned it. I should have said, listen, I'm a they. Them. I could wear. Look, even if I was a giant truck driver, I could wear. I could wear whatever. I. Anyway, I lied, and Tig wants me to apologize. For the sake of the podcast.

[Thomas Willette]

Yes, for the sake of your pink to hate. Thank you, May.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Thank you.

[Thomas Willette]

Can we get. Can we get socials to cut that and just have that so May can put that on their social media, please.

[Mae Martin]

Maybe we'll have to add some sad music behind it, too.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. What if this was all an advert for Benefit lip tint for JLo's Lip Lip Gloss. Wait, so Tig, have. Do you. Would you never wear lipstick?

[Thomas Willette]

I have. I just know when to stop. No, I. Of course there's always that. I've had that happen, too, when I've, you know, guest starred on a show or done late night, and then I'm like, oh, that shade. Yeah, quite right.

[Mae Martin]

Or like a gloss that really shines or something. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. I just am very adamant these days where if anyone goes near my lips, I'm like, it has to be so natural. Like, I don't want anything to look different than my. How my lips look. And so I've kind of gotten that down. Me, too.

[Mae Martin]

I mean, it's not helping my case that I have two gray gowns hanging in my.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, you've. You've been caught.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Back. Back in the day, I hosted the GLAD Awards in New York, and I had. They put makeup on me and, like, right before I went out, the makeup artist was like, oh, just one more thing. And he put blush on both cheeks and just went, boop, boop. And I. I was like, okay, thanks. Didn't look at it and just go out on stage and the video comes out later, and I look like, is it the marionette doll? What is it with the. Oh, big, like circle red.

[Thomas Willette]

Like a Raggedy Ann.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, it was.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I look insane. And I was like, no.

[Mae Martin]

But I bet you looked healthy, right?

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, I looked.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I look like a crazy person that doesn't know how to put on makeup.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, my God. Well, this is the problem is, like, if you resist learning those skills when you're pubescent the way I did, and maybe you guys did. Then later in life, when you dip your toe in, you don't know what the hell you're doing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I wear. I wear a little bit of foundation.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

And me, like, on a daily basis.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Huh?

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, I am wash and go you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Want to see my little makeup bag?

[Mae Martin]

Yes, please. You've got it right there.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Here.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Do. I'm a pretty little lady.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I got. I got my. This is my. Found my liquid.

[Thomas Willette]

I use the same.

[Mae Martin]

I use the same one.

[Thomas Willette]

But I think there's ever a time to head over to YouTube.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I've got my beauty blender.

[Thomas Willette]

What is a beauty blender? They look like a little thing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Looks like a bra.

[Thomas Willette]

Biggie's like, did someone save?

[Mae Martin]

But he's now sniffing at the beauty blender.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Why do you want my beauty blender? I've got my Burt's Bees. Pomegranate Lipton.

[Thomas Willette]

Girl, girl.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So it gives you a little.

[Thomas Willette]

So you do.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But it's not too much.

[Mae Martin]

It's not full taint.

[Jerry O'Connell]

See? See, that's not bad.

[Thomas Willette]

Fortune's not going full tanks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And then I have a little thing here to. I don't know what this stuff's called, where you put it.

[Thomas Willette]

Like circles.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Circles under your eyes?

[Thomas Willette]

No, they're circles.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yeah. These are colors.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Us explaining makeup is kind of hilarious.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Makeup and then hand cream. Thomas, can you put handsome makeup tutorials on the list?

[Mae Martin]

Please, please, please? But I think Tig should lead it kind of got my circles.

[Thomas Willette]

I'm not doing any taint blending, though, for you guys.

[Jerry O'Connell]

He thinks it's all treats because he's like, what's this? You don't use this much.

[Thomas Willette]

It is a treat. Have you looked at your face?

[Jerry O'Connell]

And now I'm putting on my lotion. You gotta lotion? Y'all know you have to lotion the back of your hands, right?

[Thomas Willette]

Of course. But do you know the most important rule about hydration?

[Jerry O'Connell]

What?

[Thomas Willette]

Hydrate from the inside. Yes.

[Mae Martin]

You're so right. You're so right. I've been very dehydrated on. On tour. I gotta drink water.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is it. Is a tour over fortune?

[Thomas Willette]

You look like a grandmother putting lotion on, looking down, going. Is the tour over? Kind of distracted, questioning.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is the tour over? I'd be a cute grandma. Terrible mom. Cute grandma.

[Mae Martin]

So many people are like that. So many people really come into their own as grandparents.

[Thomas Willette]

I feel like I became a parent at grandparent age, essentially.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I feel like you're a good grandparent.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, I feel like I'm a good grandparent.

[Mae Martin]

That's not eyes.

[Fortune Feimster]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Thomas Willette]

So, yeah, the. Your tour is fully over, mate.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, I've done all the music shows. Yeah. And then. Oh, and then I gotta head back to Toronto.

[Thomas Willette]

And it was a. It was a smashing success, right?

[Mae Martin]

Dude, it was so fun. I was doing guitar solos and it felt like a fantasy. And I have to say, like, I didn't realize how much I'd lost my mojo or like, that I'd been kind of down for six months until the tour. And I feel like a Clouds lifted off me. I feel really good.

[Thomas Willette]

That's incredible.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Did you get any ponties thrown at you?

[Mae Martin]

No, but I did get people yelling out pontis. And I got people yelling out. A lot of people yelling out, little cowboy. But then sometimes I'm on stage and I'm having a great time, and then someone will yell out, you got this. And I'm like, I know. Or I think I look really vulnerable and. And scared. And people are like, you can do it. And they're like, little Cowboy, you got this. I'm like, oh, it's really nice. But I'm like, am I giving off total failure? I don't know.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, maybe it's a nervous energy sometimes.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, I think you're right about that. What about you guys? So. So I'm on UK time. You're. It's early morning.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm drinking my coffee right now, cuz. Y'all know how much I love coffee. Pinkies up. Pinkies up.

[Thomas Willette]

Are you a. Don't talk to me till I've had my coffee. I can't remember, girl.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Don't talk to me till I've had my coffee.

[Thomas Willette]

No, you are. No. Okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, I love it, though. I. I drink it every morning, but I'm not, like, a huge morning person in general, but I'm not unpleasant.

[Mae Martin]

Right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

As you can tell.

[Mae Martin]

You're being absolutely heavenly right now.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

You know the pinky up thing?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

One time in England, I saw the. What I thought is the most British thing is someone on the subway, like on the tube, holding the pole in the subway, but with their pinky out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

For real.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, yeah. How. How British. Dainty is how dainty and British does it make you sound?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Does it make you miss living there when you visit, or are you like, oh, I'm glad to be in la.

[Mae Martin]

I miss the people. And a bunch of them came to the show and I haven't seen them in, like, three years. And I spent 12 years here, like my whole 20s, so I miss the people. And there were, like, Two really sunny days. And I was like, God, this city's the best. And then now the gray's descended and it's raining again, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the problem. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So that really is a thing. It's, like, gloomy there a lot.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, big time. Except when you're in Debbie's hairdresser because she has a ray of sunshine and she says, hi, she sends her love.

[Thomas Willette]

Hello, Debbie. Can we hear little Debbie's voice?

[Mae Martin]

Oh, what did she. Well, she came to my show. She came. She said, well, I went to Tig's show. Oh, it was so funny, I couldn't believe it. And she said. And then she came to my show and she didn't charge me for the haircut, which I was like, please let me pay you. She was, oh, no, don't be silly, mate. It was so nice.

[Thomas Willette]

I know. She wouldn't let me pay for mine either. And then she threw in, like, some hair product and I was like, this is insane. And she was like, oh, but you got me tickets to your show. And I was. I was like, that. I'll have none of it. But she wouldn't take my money.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What if I get my hair cut from her? And all she knows how to do is cut hair like you guys, right? And so I end up looking, having Yalls haircut.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, wouldn't that be lucky of you?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Would that be the worst without my curls?

[Thomas Willette]

Can. Can you give me a little credit that I reminded you to go get your haircut from Debbie?

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, 100%.

[Thomas Willette]

I would.

[Mae Martin]

I would have forgotten. And fortune. Would you. Would you ever go short short?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[Mae Martin]

Would you ever go long long?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, because it weighs my curls down. I went short short. When I lived in Spain, I didn't know the difference between trim and cut in Spanish, so I asked for a haircut and he chopped it all off to where it was like crazy short. It. And I came home to. I was living with this little old lady for the first two months I was in Spain.

[Thomas Willette]

Hello.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Have I told you guys this?

[Thomas Willette]

And no, but it sounds hot.

[Jerry O'Connell]

She had a wig on when I met her and she got comfortable with me and one night came home, I came home and the wig was off and she was bald and she had one sprig of hair we.

[Mae Martin]

One sprig of hair like Cindy Lou who?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, one sprig of hair.

[Thomas Willette]

And how old? Like my age or What?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, like 80. Like 80.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, my God, it's amazing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And she said, stress. And she. Poor thing. And lost her hair from stress. And I just wanted to be like, girl, let it go. So I got my hair chopped off, and I came home, like, looking for her to be like, I get it. And she said to me, que rado? And it means how weird in Spanish.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Thomas Willette]

While she's sitting there with one sprig.

[Mae Martin]

I was like, are you kidding me right now?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Weird.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Thomas Willette]

That's incredible.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's really.

[Thomas Willette]

And can you post a picture of the short hair?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I will have to look in my scrapbook, but please do.

[Thomas Willette]

I don't remember sending socials.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't remember if I took a picture because I was so embarrassed when it first happened. I might not have taken a picture right away.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, man.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It was still. It was still the circle curl, but, like, right to my head.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, I would love to see a picture.

[Thomas Willette]

But did you circle curl?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Huh?

[Mae Martin]

Did you almost circle cry? Like, you know when you see it happening and you kind of. You're just frozen, Paralyzed.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Because he kept going, and I didn't know how to be like, ah. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

It's the worst. When you're watching in real time yourself getting the wrong haircut.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, God.

[Thomas Willette]

And then if you speak up, you. You seem high maintenance and all of that. It's the worst. It's the worst.

[Mae Martin]

I mean, I've had that with tattoos where I should have spoken up in the moment, but I'm like, for sure.

[Thomas Willette]

The one that says oatmeal.

[Mae Martin]

No, that one. Weirdly, I was. Weirdly, I was really into that one.

[Jerry O'Connell]

May has turned into oat milk. It's all the rage now.

[Thomas Willette]

Unsweetened oat milk is what it now says.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They were doing the tattoo you hadn't approved, or it was just way what not what you wanted.

[Mae Martin]

There was this sketchy guy I used to go to when I was, like, 16, and he would. I'd always say, I want this. And I'd have, like, a picture or a stencil or I'd. And he'd go, I'm gonna freehand it. I'm just gonna. I got. I know how I'm gonna do it. And then he would do, like, his own freehand handwriting on my body, and I could see it going, but you're halfway through. You can't then switch to a stencil.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Wow.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

See, that's why I just went with the one tattoo that I have.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What is it?

[Mae Martin]

You have a dot. Is that right?

[Thomas Willette]

That's right.

[Mae Martin]

Yes. Okay, I. Listen, I remember.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I do not remember this My brother.

[Thomas Willette]

Threw a ballpoint pen at me when I was in sixth grade and it stuck in my knee and I pulled it out and I have a dot. So I always say if I go missing and they ask if I have any tattoos. I had a dot.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I have a scar right here from my brother's fingernail. He didn't. We got the fight in his thumb. His thumb like dug into my forehead.

[Thomas Willette]

This is your brother, huh?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Brothers are the worst.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, brothers are terrible.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We all had brothers.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, speaking of brothers, I actually just flew to see my brother on the east coast for two days because my niece was turning one and my sister in law asked if I would come surprise my brother and so I did. But I also got caught in all the weather and then my flight guide got diverted and I ended up having to. It just was a whole situation. And, and, and, and she was, his wife was totally keeping this under wraps. And I arrived and normally he's sitting on the couch watching the news at this time that I arrived, but he was, she said that her friend was coming in town and that he had to pick her up from the airport. And then it didn't happen. And then. So. Okay, well, that we just lost May had a little technical glitch in the middle of my surprise story.

[Mae Martin]

I'm so sorry.

[Thomas Willette]

No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Welcome back to our seats. Okay. They disappeared.

[Thomas Willette]

So long story short, I am sitting on the couch and it's the time when my brother is typically watching the news or a game or something and he decides out of nowhere he's like, I'm going to go take a shower and do some laundry. My sister in law is like, what? Why now? And so yeah, so he goes up and he showers. And then, and I arrive and then I go sit on the couch and she's like, I'm going to go get him. And she interrupts his shower. He's mid, he's shaving, he's mid shave, in the shower, longest shower of his life. And he's like. And she's like, my friend's here. And he's like, okay. And he's like. And she goes, come down and say hi. And he's like, what? He's like, this person. Oh my God. And oh, also before he got in the shower, his wife was like all stressed because she, she was like, well, what if my friend shows up and you're in the shower? And he said later. He was like. And I'm thinking, this girl can't, this woman can't just open a door and walk into our House. What the hell is wrong with her? And so he's mid shower, mid shave. And my sister in law is like, you have to come down. She just got here. He's like, oh my God. So he dries off, he walks down the stairs. And then he looks over and it's me sitting on his couch. And he was just like. Oh. Like he just head down, like stunned. Could not even move. He couldn't believe it. Yeah. And. And I have to say, my brother was just like a guy with a dog, driving a jeep, listening to the Rolling Stones and talking sports. And then he meets, you know, in a one bedroom apartment, meets his wife. I've never seen him happier. She has the dog of his dreams and they have little family. And then he has his son so happy. And then his daughter comes along. You guys, I have never seen this side of my brother, like a girl.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Dad, like, like melted.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh my. He is like. So I overhear him talking to this woman that was helping organize the party. And he's like. And you know, it's the pink. It's the pink dress with the little flowers on. And I was like, what am I? And he's like, what? He was like, pink is her color and like it just really brings out her eyes and her hair and her lips. Oh, I was teasing him. I was like, I feel like you have a little dolly. Like, he's so. And he. And he's a stay at home dad. And he does like the bottles and the diapers and like. And he's just. And I asked him, I said, how do you feel about how life has turned turned out? And he's just like, it's a gift. I just, I wouldn't change a thing. It's a gift.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's amazing.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

That's so nice that you went like, he'll always remember that.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, it just, it was such a great visit. And when he dropped me off at the airport, I was like, this is truly the happiest I have ever seen you in my life. And it's just like, you know, not that I doubted that he'd be into his daughter, but it is a side of him that I have truly where he, I, you know, the whole weekend was me teasing him, like, well, put that dress on your Pinterest board. And you know, but. And then I turned to him at one point and I said, out of nowhere I go, you know what? I actually don't think pink's her color. And I mean, he, he got whiplash. He turned his head so fast with the dirtiest look on his face. I was like, easy. I'm kidding.

[Mae Martin]

What did you just say?

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, what did you say about my dolly?

[Mae Martin]

Something, like, melts my heart. There's something about seeing a dad do, like, a ponytail or a braid on. On their daughter. It's a very sweet thing.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, yeah, Even at one point, he's like, man, he was, like, pulling her little curls in the back of her hair. And he goes, man, I can't wait till she. I can't wait till she has long hair. And I was like, oh, you. A long hair on your little dolly. It just was really incredible. It was really incredible.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's always nice to see siblings content, you know, just anybody their best. Yeah, for sure.

[Thomas Willette]

When you see anyone happy, you're just, like, awesome. Now I can go live my life and not worry about you.

[Mae Martin]

Right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

And everyone's version of what happy is, is different. And whatever is happy for them is so cool to see.

[Thomas Willette]

For sure. Anyway, I just wanted to share that it was a really fun time, and. And. Should we move on to our question?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

All right.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, today's guest is an actor and TV host known for his roles in the TV shows Billions and Sliders and films like Stand By Me to Jerry Maguire to Kangaroo Jack. Jerry O'Connell is asking today's question.

[Wayne Brady]

Hi, Tig. Hi, Fortune. Hi, May. Jerry O'Connell here. I'm an actor. I'm a host. I've been in things. You can look it up. Okay, here's my question. You get invited to something, an event, an opening. You know, people have books. You know, people have movies, premieres, specials. You don't want to go. You just don't want to go. You got to get dressed up. You know, in my case, hair, makeup.

[Thomas Willette]

A lot of it.

[Wayne Brady]

Sometimes you gotta pay for it out of pocket. There's a red carpet. There's interviews, press junkets, electric press junkets, zoom press junkets. You don't want to go. Do you immediately say, I can't make it. Thank you for the invite. Do you wait a little bit and say, I checked my calendars. I can't make it? Do you just go? Or do you just completely ignore it? Completely ignore it. And then when you see them, be like, oh, I. I did. I didn't. I don't. I don't.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What? How.

[Jonathan Mangum]

How was it?

[Thomas Willette]

Hey.

[Mae Martin]

I know I'm a fan of a lot of people, but I am a true Jerry O'Connell fan because I am a Stand By Me obsessive. I know every line of that movie. And his performance as Vern is comedy genius. Guys, I forget the secret knock and then they go 7 cents. Verne, I brought the comb. What do you need a comb for? You don't even have any hair. I brought it for you guys. He's so good in it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Look at that.

[Tig Notaro]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Wayne Brady]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Like making sure they always have their seatbelt on.

[Thomas Willette]

Alright, sweetie pie, buckle up. Good job.

[Wayne Brady]

Or ring the bell on their bike.

[Mae Martin]

Okay kid, give it a try.

[Fortune Feimster]

Nice.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Or remember their elbow pads. Knees too.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay. Yep, there you go.

[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Mae Martin]

One of my other favorite movies, Scream 2. I love Scream 1, 2 and 3 very much. And he has a sequence where he stands on a table and sings I love you baby. And if it's quite all right. He's just. What a. What a gent.

[Thomas Willette]

What a gentle. He's a silly guy.

[Mae Martin]

Funny. We were just talking about girl dads, and he's a proud girl dad. Right. He's got daughters.

[Thomas Willette]

And not only was he talking.

[Mae Martin]

Not.

[Thomas Willette]

Not only is he. That he was also talking about getting hair and makeup done, and it reminded me of your pink t. Taint.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's probably why you say no to some events. Is don't want to put on that lip taint.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. Oh, that's what it is. Lip taint.

[Mae Martin]

Pink taint is pretty good. I'm never gonna put it on again. Trust me. I. Not now that I know what it looks like on camera.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You gotta get this Burt's Bees.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah, I gotta get the pomegranate. Burt's Bees.

[Thomas Willette]

But isn't that what blew up your lips on your special.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was makeup.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

My Burt's Bees Pomegranate is what I use in life.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay. So.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Although I need to use it more because my lips are dry.

[Thomas Willette]

Yes.

[Mae Martin]

May hydrate from the inside.

[Thomas Willette]

Hydrate from the inside.

[Mae Martin]

AKA Douche.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Mae Marie.

[Mae Martin]

Sorry. But, Tig, I imagine that if you get an invite you don't want, you just say right away, there's no way in hell I'm going. Like, you're a direct.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's what I thought, too. Like, it's just like, I'm not going.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, but I'm not, like, rude about it. I think I just feel like, you know, people get. I think get too involved in their excuses to get out of things when it's really okay to say, I'm. I'm just not going to be able to make it. Like, that's all you have to say. And it doesn't have to be. You're. And even if the reason is you are not able to make it is because you don't want to go or it's because you're sick or anything like that. That's a perfectly fine answer to say, you know, I. I don't want to. Or I'm not going to be able to go. I don't know. I just. I'm not really into big Hollywood parties and events unless a friend of mine is doing something and I want to be there to support them, or if I'm, like, nominated for something or I'm hosting something, then I go to something. But I just. It's not really. I don't. I just don't really feel bad about it.

[Mae Martin]

Right.

[Thomas Willette]

But if it's like, somebody's. I Don't know. I guess if it's somebody's birthday or their book is coming out or something I care about supporting. I feel like it is with certain friends and certain situations it is more important to show up and support the friend. Even if I don't feel like going out that night, you know, I feel like that overrides it for me. But if it's just a random invite, I just, I don't have any problem saying I'm not going to be able to make it. Thanks for the invite.

[Mae Martin]

My problem is I want to go to everything. I'm excited. I'm excited by the invitation. In the moment. I have every intention of going. I'm pumped. And then something happens and then I'm like, can I. If, if I'm being honest, it's some. It's usually something like my skin feels weird on my body and like I feel like I, you know, sad or something, you know, and I can't, I feel like I can't just say that or, or something legit comes out or I've over promised like four people at the same time or like, but that's like a real lifelong goal for me is sort that shit out because yeah, don't over promise.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I do feel like you. Yeah, you probably say yes to things, to multiple people knowing that you can't make it to all of those things.

[Mae Martin]

And thinking like, oh, I'll have to pick one of those things.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Closer to time.

[Mae Martin]

Closer to time.

[Thomas Willette]

I think closer I am to time.

[Mae Martin]

Closer I am to time.

[Thomas Willette]

I. I think Indigo Girls. I was making an Indigo Girls joke. May.

[Mae Martin]

Oh yeah. I like that very much.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Time, the time.

[Mae Martin]

I think it's subconsciously that that happens. I don't think it's conscious. I. But I'm getting, I got to get. I'm going to get better. Are you good at. Are you good at it? Fortune?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I'm really good at managing my schedule in general. I don't have an assistant or anything, so that's amazing. Always like keep a pretty. A very specific calendar.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I'm always kind of know what's coming. I look at it every day. So I'm pretty. I'm really good with time management because I do a lot of different things every day and, and if I say yes, I, I'm totally going unless like I. A gig comes up and I'm out of town. Like and those sometimes happen last minute but it's not me just like not feeling like going all of a sudden. Normally if I, if I commit, I'M pretty, I'm pretty much going.

[Mae Martin]

Do you like the glitzy Hollywood thing?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I don't mind them. I, I like a slider and a lot of those parties have sliders.

[Thomas Willette]

That gets you out house.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'll get out of the house for a slider even if I have to wear a suit.

[Mae Martin]

And you like an electric slide. You're like, you're, I feel like you're more fun at a party than me. Like you dance. You're like, yeah, I'll get into it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, yeah, I'll get into it. So I don't mind one of those glitzy parties. Yeah, I, I, those are fun and different and I like to meet different people. And some of those parties have people I admire that I don't get to meet in other places. But yeah, usually I get an old fashioned and a slider and this gal's happy. But if I can't, if I can't go to something, and that does happen too, where suddenly I, I did like accidentally overbooked that. Of course that happens. I will over explain. But I'm an over explainer in everything.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, tell us about it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I just, I don't know why I, because some people say if you over explain, you're lying. And I'm like, that's not true for me. I always over explain.

[Mae Martin]

I feel self conscious. Like it seems like I'm lying if I'm over explaining too. But awesome.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I just like, for whatever reason, I'm like, I need this person to know all the things that happen leading up to me not being able to go.

[Mae Martin]

Right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They don't need that information or want it. It's not really relevant. But I'm just, I just do it in my thing ends up being like a paragraph.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

When I, when I could just be like, so sorry. Wanted to go, but now I have to go out of town, you know, but it's like I was gonna go. I really wanted to go. It was on my calendar, but this thing came up last minute. I just got this, this just got booked two days ago. And now I really, I've got to do this thing because honestly I, I don't even want to do it, but I want to do it with my mom. And so I'm going to be.

[Thomas Willette]

Do you ever preface it with. I know it comes across as being dishonest when you explain, but I have a tendency to over explain. So here it comes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I don't go that far.

[Thomas Willette]

See, that's what I would do. I'd over explain the over explaining.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, even a therapist was like, recently was like, you over explained. You need to. You don't need to do that. And I was like, you're right. So, yeah, I don't know where that comes from or why, but that is definitely part of my process.

[Mae Martin]

I also overestimate my energy. Like, I'll be like, yeah, I mean, I get out of the edit at 6 and then I'll, you know, I'll get in a car and at 6:30 I'll go to that thing. And then at the end of the day I'm like, I. But probably if I pushed through that fatigue and once I got there, I'd have a. I'd have a good time.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I know sometimes it is hard just to. If you're like having a like chill time on your couch.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It is very hard to pull yourself out of that and put on actual pants and not sweatpants and go somewhere. But I usually do suck it up.

[Mae Martin]

Sometimes your WI fi goes out until.

[Jerry O'Connell]

10Am that's hard to. Canada Day party. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh my God, I forgot about Canada Day parties.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

And. And I think also we have so many friends and, and people like our social lives are so much bigger than they would have been in the olden days. You'd have like butcher, the baker, the butcher and the, you know, the local people in the village. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There weren't a lot of villagers to hang out with.

[Mae Martin]

Exactly. And now we know so many people and they're all doing cool stuff and it's. Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And there was no electricity. You had to do things by candlelight. So you could only last for as long as you had candles.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

I like what I'm hearing.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Taking her bonnet.

[Thomas Willette]

My candle went out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Candlelight. My candle's out. Gotta go home.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, God.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I would have.

[Mae Martin]

Nice.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I would imagine having kids, it's even harder to want to leave the house willy nilly.

[Mae Martin]

And you have a good excuse not to at any time.

[Thomas Willette]

You can be like, well, typically. But we don't. Here's the thing is it. It goes both ways in that we're very, very lucky because Stephanie's father is our child care.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That is really nice.

[Thomas Willette]

And yeah, he is at our beck and call. We do not have a we. They have never had a babysitter.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

They've never had a babysitter. They don't. There's no stranger that's come in the house, you know, to watch them. The problem is if he's not doing well, then we're not going anywhere.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Right.

[Thomas Willette]

So we can have all the plans in the world, and then if he throws his back out or his leg is hurting or something, you know, call.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Me next time you're like, just sit in the recliner.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, we don't have a recliner, May.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Why not?

[Thomas Willette]

We don't have a recliner. We should probably get one.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You should. The kind that you don't. That go up with you, you know.

[Thomas Willette]

That, like, launch you out.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

And they also have, like, two drink holders on each side.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

So you don't have to get up for hours.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Please get one of those, May. You would babysit.

[Mae Martin]

I would love to, anytime. Like, I would talk about statistics with them, and they could show me their Pokemon cards. Whatever. I would.

[Thomas Willette]

Do you play chess?

[Mae Martin]

Yes, I play chess.

[Thomas Willette]

I've been visited.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. They're in the chess group at school. And then they also are very into magic right now. And it's really funny because they are constantly doing magic tricks that work 50 of the time, and they get. Finn actually will get very frustrated. He's like, this just worked. And I'm like, well, it's. It's magic half of the time, and. But yeah. Oh, my gosh.

[Mae Martin]

Do you pretend that you don't know how it works?

[Thomas Willette]

I don't know how it works. There's no need to pretend. No, I don't have a clue. I. I just take it for face value, and I'm like, wow. Yeah. That my card.

[Mae Martin]

Wow.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. So I'm. I'm perfect for. For them.

[Mae Martin]

Have you taken them to the Magic Castle?

[Thomas Willette]

No, but we're about to go. Because they are truly, truly obsessed with. I mean, they both walk around the Magic Castle.

[Mae Martin]

You gotta be careful, because I went one time, and I was. I'd had a few drinks, and you're. We're walking around and there's magicians, like, stationed around, and I. This guy showed me a trick, and then I said, can I show you a trick? Which is the most annoying thing to ask him. And he really calmly goes, oh, if you want to be removed by security, then, yeah, go ahead.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, wait, is that for real? You just. No one. I thought. I felt people could just. Oh, maybe. Only members can do magic.

[Mae Martin]

Only he's members of the Magic Circle, which I'm not.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Whoa. If you want to be removed, try your magic trick in here and see what happens.

[Mae Martin]

I know. I was. I was humiliated.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Friend of the pod, Neil Patrick Harris is a big magic castle guy.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, really? Does he do magic himself, too?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, he does magic and is a member there. And has been for years. And is, I think, pretty or. He lives in New York now, but when he was in la, I think was pretty heavily involved there.

[Mae Martin]

Can we put it on the list? Magic Castle.

[Thomas Willette]

Got to.

[Mae Martin]

I really want to go. I mean, you guys are going anywhere with the family, but I would like to go.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Can make. Can May and I go with you guys?

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. We can bring you to the Magic Castle with us.

[Mae Martin]

But there's a strict dress code, right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, if you're gonna dress handsome.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. Like, they made me wear a blazer that they had in the back.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, yeah, they have to wear a suit for guys, dresses for ladies. Or if you're a lady, you can wear a suit as well.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, luckily, our little cubs really enjoy getting dressed up. It's a real fun twist, because I remember when my brother and I were little, it was. We fought it, getting dressed up. Max and Finn. They're good.

[Mae Martin]

I liked getting dressed up in a suit when I was little. But luckily, now I have my. My pink taint, so I'm gonna be dressed to the nines.

[Thomas Willette]

Well, with that, should we hear what Jerry's answer was?

[Mae Martin]

Yes.

[Thomas Willette]

Off of your pink taint.

[Wayne Brady]

Well, let me tell you what I do. When I get an invite that I don't want to go to, I know I'm supposed to immediately just say, I can't make it. Thank you so much for the invite. Like, just rip the band aid off fast. Just get it out there. Can't make it. Thank you so much for the invite. Best of luck with everything. I can't wait to see you. I know that's what you're supposed to do, but I. I just completely delete the message. I act like I never got. I just delete it, never saw it, never think of it, and then just play dumb and go, oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I.

[Mae Martin]

What?

[Wayne Brady]

I always support you. I'm sorry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What?

[Wayne Brady]

I. I forgot that's what I do. Just completely ignore it. Play. Play dumb.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hilarious.

[Wayne Brady]

Love you all.

[Thomas Willette]

Love you, Jer bear. Well, now word is out, people. Everybody listens to the handsome pod. So now everybody's gonna know that Jerry is full of it.

[Mae Martin]

I love that he says, I always support you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I can't do it. I still think about, like, there was a friend who's. I told her I would go to her premiere, and I forgot I had another event that night, and I didn't go. And I still think about that I.

[Mae Martin]

Did have a comedian who I will not name, say they were gonna do my Largo show, and Was it me?

[Thomas Willette]

Was it me?

[Mae Martin]

It was Tig. No Taro. No. But it was like an hour before the show and he texts me, hey, I'm really not feeling well. I'm really tired and I'm not gonna make it. I never mind when people flake. Cause I'm a flake. So I was like, hey, man, no worries. And like, two hours later, I see him on Instagram at a party, raving, Aw.

[Thomas Willette]

So wait, that matters.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You've probably.

[Thomas Willette]

I was gonna say that doesn't sound too unmay.

[Mae Martin]

Like, no, I. I'm. I don't flake to go to other things. Usually I. I'll freak out and cancel everything and just sit home and feel guilty or. Or be anxious or.

[Thomas Willette]

So it matters to you that he canceled you? Would you. You're like, then you better just stay home.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You better stay home and look at the wall.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah, okay, I see.

[Mae Martin]

It was just so shameless to be on Instagram, like, woo. Like, oh, my God. But I kind of, you know, I respect it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I respect more new things about each other today.

[Mae Martin]

Loved. Loved the story. And I want to revisit maybe in a future episode the. The woman with the one sprig of hair. I. I just am like, I can't believe her.

[Thomas Willette]

The pattern behind you makes it look like you're. You're. The Coliseum is behind you or something.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, yeah.

[Mae Martin]

I mean, are you entertained? I would leave a note in this hotel room for handsome listeners, except nobody's. Nobody's found the one in the Silver Lake Lounge that I left.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. All in good time. That's the fun. It's not like you need a response, you know, within two weeks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

This plays a long game. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

If you. That's gonna be. The fun is we're gonna go about our lives, we're gonna end the podcast, we're gonna go off and do our own things, and then we're gonna hear through a friend of a friend that someone found that. And then it's gonna go viral online like seven years from now.

[Mae Martin]

That would be good if it was actually like decades from now.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Decades.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

But you have to leave a note in your. In that hotel.

[Mae Martin]

Okay. You heard it here. I'm staying at Shoreditch House in London.

[Thomas Willette]

Okay.

[Mae Martin]

And I'm gonna leave a note. Let' the tv. I think so there. There's the tv. I'm gonna leave the note behind the tv.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay.

[Mae Martin]

And I'm in room number nine.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Thomas Willette]

What's it called? The Shortage House.

[Mae Martin]

Shortage House, Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Room number Nine. A note from May will be behind the tv. That was pointless for you to get up and wander around, right?

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. Well, I was looking for a spot to feel.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Feel the space.

[Thomas Willette]

And what did we. What did we offer? Was it a free link to a streaming show?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Key Party key.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh, a keychain.

[Jerry O'Connell]

People were asking what the 822 means on our Key Party keychains. It's when our podcast started.

[Thomas Willette]

Oh.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, August 22nd.

[Mae Martin]

Did you come up with that?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I did not. I don't know who came up with it.

[Mae Martin]

That's really nice. I like. That's a nice touch.

[Thomas Willette]

I came up with it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm marketing genius.

[Thomas Willette]

Classic Thomas. Classic Thomas.

[Mae Martin]

That's amazing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So if you get it, if we. We sell key party keychains, 822 is when. When the pod started.

[Thomas Willette]

Wonderful.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Have handsome hoodies. Look at this.

[Thomas Willette]

That looks so good on you, Fortune.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I swear to God, I'm not. I'm not trying to sell them because. Whatever.

[Thomas Willette]

Why are you not trying to sell them?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. Come on.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm telling you this genuinely. This hoodie and I have our matching sweatpants on, too. The most comfortable. I'm telling you, anyone that buys this, I dare you to think. This is not the most comfortable sweat.

[Mae Martin]

I dare.

[Thomas Willette]

I dare you to think that.

[Mae Martin]

I dare you to think, period. Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Wow. All right, well, settle down, Fortune.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Our. Both of our live shows have sold out now in Austin and in Nashville. Thank you guys for that. But you're in luck because our Austin show on April 12 is going to be live streamed. There are no tickets left, so that's the only way to see it. That link will be good for a week, and it's gonna be a really fun show. We got about.

[Tig Notaro]

There's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That'll be the biggest live stream we've had as far as in person. 3, 000 people.

[Thomas Willette]

That's really off the charts. And I have actually a surprise for Fortune and May that night, and they look.

[Mae Martin]

Are you serious?

[Thomas Willette]

Their faces lit up. Yeah. I planned this with Thomas. I have a. A big surprise for both of you. Oh, my God. It's going to be in front of 3, 000 people in Austin and for the entire streaming audience. You're not going to want to miss this because, Thomas, is it not a special surprise? It's going to be a very special surprise.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, my God.

[Thomas Willette]

Maybe a bit of a challenge.

[Mae Martin]

Oh, a challenge.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Whoa.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah. But it is no doubt a surprise.

[Mae Martin]

I like the challenge.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Don't miss that. You guys get your tickets?

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. Have a watch party. Watch with your friends. And we can, you probably, I think, can send in a question for us on the live stream and we might answer some audience questions.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Thomas Willette]

Nice.

[Mae Martin]

Yeah. What do you got coming up?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm. My tour is starting. I have one last practice show in Ontario, California, and then my, my next big tour starts in Savannah, Georgia and Charleston, South Carolina, the beginning of April. And then I have Rockford, Illinois, Columbus, we added a show. Greensboro, North Carolina, Roanoke, Baltimore, Grand Rapids, Minneapolis. Lots of places. You can go to my website, FortuneFreeMonster.com for tickets.

[Thomas Willette]

Awesome. And I'm gonna be in Chicago hosting the Ambies Awards. It's the podcasting awards. That's on March 31st. I'll be in Eureka Springs, Arkansas, June 14th. I'll be in P Town on August 23rd. And then go to tignotaro.com for all ticket and show information. And I'm also going to be working out new stuff at Largo in Los Angeles and Dynasty Typewriter. So get those dates [e-mail] Please share an episode, your favorite episode, with your friends. And let's keep building this awesome community. And make sure to subscribe to the podcast as well as our YouTube channel. And like and review.

[Mae Martin]

I am at Largo on March 28 and then April 25. And also what I would love so much is if people listen to my album, it's out. It's like. And you can order. It's a really cool vinyl and there's some cool t shirts on maymartinmusic.com and then if you go on Spotify and stream it, let me know what your favorite song is.

[Thomas Willette]

Awesome. And congrats again on the album and tour.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Very cool.

[Thomas Willette]

Yeah.

[Mae Martin]

But until then, yeah. Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] and please follow us on social media. Ansomepod.

[Jerry O'Connell]

What a podcast.

[Mae Martin]

What a podcast. That was a Headgum podcast. That was a Headgum podcast.

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[Fortune Feimster]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[Jonathan Mangum]

Hey, I'm Wayne Brady. And I'm Jonathan Mangum. And we're two big improv nerds who get a chance to play and make stuff up on shows like Whose Line Is It Anyway? Or let's Make a Deal.

[Wayne Brady]

And we're now hosting a new improvised show called what if? On the Headgum Podcast Network.

[Jonathan Mangum]

And on what if, we believe that improvisation is a conversation. So we get to have conversations with guests from the worlds of tv, film, tech, and literature. Guests like Bobby Moynihan, Aisha Tyler, Levar Burton, and Adam Conover. We asked them the big ridiculous questions like, what if you hurt a monkey's feelings?

[Wayne Brady]

What if your grandma was a secret agent?

[Jonathan Mangum]

What if Jonathan was invited to the cookout? I'm not. And then we turned the conversation into spontaneous scenes, songs. Well, because that's what we do.

[Wayne Brady]

Subscribe to what if on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Cast, wherever you get your podcasts, and watch episodes on YouTube.

[Jonathan Mangum]

No script, no net, Just what if.