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May Martin
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Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feimster
Womp, womp.
Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feimster
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May Martin
chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod. Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod.
Fortune Feimster
Cheers.
Tig Notaro
Welcome to the Handsome Pod. It's Tig Notaro sitting here with my
May Martin
co hosts, May Martin and Fortune Feamster.
Tig Notaro
Handsome.
Fortune Feimster
We're handsome.
Tig Notaro
We are handsome. And we talk like this.
Fortune Feimster
I just took a shower. Do you like my slick back hair like I'm in the Outsiders? Yes, except you're coming, pony boy.
May Martin
I love it. And then I saw. I mean, Tig, you won't have seen this because you're not on Instagram, but I saw that Fortune posted a picture of her with straight hair and it is something to see. It is something to behold.
Tig Notaro
Well, can you pull it up, Thomas, and give me a peek?
Fortune Feimster
See?
Tig Notaro
And why is it recent that you had straight hair? Or is this.
Fortune Feimster
It was for Keenan Kenan Thompson sitcom this. So this would have been like 2020
Tig Notaro
and that's how your hair was on the show.
Fortune Feimster
They straightened it. So unfortunately.
May Martin
Should I bring this back. Should I do this again?
Fortune Feimster
It was like a. It was. They straightened it, and it was kind of a mullet.
Kristen Kish
And it was.
Tig Notaro
Every time you were on the show.
Fortune Feimster
Every time. There I am.
May Martin
Wait,
Fortune Feimster
there it was. There it is right there.
Tig Notaro
That is good.
Fortune Feimster
Looking at that mullet. It was a lot on my hair, though. It doesn't like to be straightened every. Like, every day.
May Martin
It takes a lot of heat.
Fortune Feimster
Pressure.
Tig Notaro
It's a lot of heat.
Fortune Feimster
Okay. And these curls are, like, screaming at me.
Tig Notaro
Yes.
Fortune Feimster
But they thought it was hilarious. Who?
Tig Notaro
The listener. Your followers know the.
Fortune Feimster
The show. That's why they. Oh, it was their idea, not mine, to. To have that hair.
Tig Notaro
And what brought it up for you? To put. Put it on your Instagram.
Fortune Feimster
Every now and then I'll do like a throwback to a show that I did.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And that hair style made me laugh. So, yeah. Just wanted to give it a little moment.
Tig Notaro
And your followers were delighted.
May Martin
I was delighted.
Fortune Feimster
May was delighted, which is all I long for. And I. You know, some people were like, that's hilarious. Bring it back. Other people are like, don't ever do that again.
May Martin
That's terrible. And then they're probably. There's a contingent of people who have that hair that are like, great. That looks great. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. What's the problem?
Fortune Feimster
Myself in you. Yeah,
Tig Notaro
that's for sure. How that person talks. Yes.
May Martin
Well, you're not gonna believe this. I just. I just woke up. I slept from 11pm until noon today.
Fortune Feimster
You were a tired little cowboy.
May Martin
I have not been able to do that in, like, years. And normally I can't. Like, I just wake up. But something. I was deep out because there was a lot of drama at Casa Cowboy.
Tig Notaro
I was gonna say. Is there emotional stuff? Is there emotional?
Fortune Feimster
Emotional, Baby.
May Martin
That's like my theme song.
Fortune Feimster
What happened?
May Martin
Well, I mean, it's not actually funny, but I. So I. I was having a massage. I get out, I got a text from my friend Matt. Oh, no, not a horny massage.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, not a horny massage. Okay. Regular.
May Martin
A regular rejuvenation, ex platonic massage. And I get out and I have a text from my roommate, the Matt who lives here. And he's like, hey, buddy, are you home? And I'm walking up to my house, and there's a fire truck.
Tig Notaro
And your house fell off.
Fortune Feimster
I thought he. I thought he was going to say the guest house fell off the mountain. Hey, buddy, you up?
May Martin
No, but the brush beside my house, like, had lit. I mean, had gone up and it almost reached my wooden gate and. Oh, this is the second time it happened like a week ago, but a smaller version, I guess. There's unhoused people that live in the brush there and they were cooking something.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
But this time it really. Three palm trees went up. Then the firemen came. Two of the firemen had to go to hospital. One smoke inhalation and one got like an allergic reaction to a plant. Anyway, it was wild and what the heck. And before the fire truck got there, like, we were just taking little buckets of water. Well, they left and then it was still on fire. We didn't know what to do. We called them back. It was so crazy and so close to my house. Like, I can't even tell you, able
Fortune Feimster
to reach where the flames were with the yellow buckets of water.
May Martin
Yeah, it's right. It's right.
Tig Notaro
I don't even understand how an unhoused person could even spend any time back there. Because it's a cliff.
May Martin
There's a little. There's. It's like three feet probably on one section in the brush. But now it's all burned out. And the crazy thing is. So I was. After the fire trucks left, I was like dumping water because it was still smoking and. Yeah, because they had got it out. And then it kind of came back.
Fortune Feimster
What happened with the Palisades fire? It like laid dormant for a week?
May Martin
Yeah, for a week. Oh, fuck. Okay. But then my neighbor came out and he was like, yeah, it's an arsonist. I saw a guy with a lighter come and do it and he said, it's the third time recently. And he said, I saw this guy. I know, I'm really freaked out. And I went, I. I called them back and I was like, the neighbor saw a guy lighting it and they were like, well, if you see him again, call. Call the police. But, yeah, pretty freaky scary.
Tig Notaro
That is terrifying.
Fortune Feimster
These things get out of hand.
May Martin
I know. So I've ordered like a big hose.
Tig Notaro
So your body was like, there's an arsonist behind the house. I'm going to sleep.
May Martin
Yeah. My body was like, well, goodbye.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't.
Fortune Feimster
This.
May Martin
I didn't come here for this.
Fortune Feimster
Wake me up when this nightmare is over.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Seriously? Yeah.
Tig Notaro
So that is really scary.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, I know.
May Martin
There's something really unsettling about an arsonist.
Fortune Feimster
It's when it's very dry in California and California can just go up and smoke at any second.
May Martin
I know, I know. It's so dry.
Fortune Feimster
I. I don't understand this. That crazy ass compulsion to do that. Well, I Heard of several sexual fires have been started by arsonists.
May Martin
Apparently a big part of it is like a fire fetish, like wanting to. And then when we were putting the buckets on and I kept thinking, is there someone like watching us somewhere? Like watching the reaction and enjoying it? So that was really creepy. So I'm not really sure what to do because.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
Can you like coat your house in some anti fire spell or.
Fortune Feimster
I mean, just from watching all the fire footage for the two weeks last. When was that? Two years ago? Yeah, some people buy one of those.
Tig Notaro
The.
Fortune Feimster
There's like a sprinkler on a stand like they put on their roofs and stuff. I mean, but that's like.
May Martin
I bought four fire blankets, two extinguishers and one big hose. And I'm just.
Tig Notaro
Did you use the fire blankets for your nap?
May Martin
Yeah. Then I got real cozy under there. They were so cozy.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, it seems like something. I mean, I would join forces with your assistant and do a massive Google up about what the hell to do, because I. I would. That's really concerning. And so Matt was home when that happened.
May Martin
Thank God. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So he was freaking out. His text was very calm, though. Hey, buddy, you coming anytime soon?
Fortune Feimster
The hill.
Tig Notaro
Are you also on fire?
May Martin
But I really thought, when I saw the firemen, I thought they are. You know, I have like a. A bit of a distrust of police, like a healthy distress. I was like, firemen, they. They're just doing it to do it.
Tig Notaro
Headed towards danger to save others the time.
Fortune Feimster
That's why Tig has a fireman fantasy fetish for firemen.
May Martin
Well, the one that had the smoke inhalation, he took off his shirt at one point and I gotta say, he horny. He was ripped. It was. I. I was like, you.
Fortune Feimster
Do you give massages?
Tig Notaro
And how was his face? Was it mustache, rugged and handsome?
May Martin
No, to be honest, he looked about 21. He was like baby faced, hairless, ripped chest. Not to objectify him, but.
Fortune Feimster
But he wasn't.
Tig Notaro
He wasn't handsome at all.
May Martin
Oh, he was deeply handsome. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Oh, he was okay.
Fortune Feimster
Kind, deeply handsome fella.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Okay.
May Martin
Anyway, so that's my drama. But I slept really well, which is. It's weird that. That's the night that I slept.
Tig Notaro
Very odd. Very odd.
Fortune Feimster
You just bought you a house right in the woods and on a. On a ledge.
Tig Notaro
I know. We thought for sure you had purchased a safe home.
Fortune Feimster
I, for the record, told me, don't do it.
May Martin
I remember.
Fortune Feimster
Let the record show.
May Martin
Well, I'm hoping now I can Tell the city I'm pressuring them a lot. I think I can say it's a fire hazard, like if. Because if that had been covered by concrete, that wouldn't have happened, you know, but it's all just dry brush. But, yeah. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Weird.
May Martin
Weird times. LA is weird.
Fortune Feimster
Hello, city. It's May Martin.
Tig Notaro
Do you like la, May?
May Martin
I love it, but I don't. Yeah, I do. I love it, but it has a
Fortune Feimster
little danger to it.
May Martin
You know me.
Tig Notaro
And so do you prefer it over London or Toronto or.
May Martin
I loved London, But I think 12 years, I. I think I had done my time there. I just one morning was like, is
Fortune Feimster
it all the rain?
May Martin
Yeah. And being there during COVID and it was like the sky was so low and gray, and I just was dumb. But. But LA is pretty wild. I mean, the constant, like, well, the big one's coming. Who lives in a city where people say that? That's crazy.
Fortune Feimster
They've been saying it for 23 years, which means it's. Well, really 25 years now.
Tig Notaro
It is really a coming.
Fortune Feimster
Trying to think when the last big, big one. Was it Northridge?
Tig Notaro
I think so.
Fortune Feimster
I can't remember what year that one was. I believe it was longer than 25. Oh, 94 then.
May Martin
I think in my future. In my future, I'm gonna go out to the woods one day and just live like a hermit.
Tig Notaro
But, yeah, just make sure they're not on fire.
May Martin
I know.
Fortune Feimster
Like Henry David Thoreau.
Tig Notaro
Do you have that fire app?
May Martin
Yes.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, yeah. You should get watch duty.
May Martin
And it's.
Tig Notaro
It's in your backyard.
May Martin
Yeah, I'm looking at, like, the biggest thing, like, oh, it's right behind me.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, I. I, you know, I have trouble sleeping. It's getting better, though. And I was in Toronto working. I think it was on season one, and I don't know. I was not on fire. My apartment building was not on fire. But for some reason, I guess it was just pure exhaustion. I slept for over 12 hours, and I woke up so confused. I was like, what? Like, it made absolutely no sense because at that point, like, two years ago, I was going on, like, three hours on average, and now I'm up to, like, five to seven on average, which I would say five and a half to seven, which is so much better. I can work with that.
Fortune Feimster
Betty White used to sleep for four hours a night.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Really?
Fortune Feimster
So if she could do it, Tig can do it.
Tig Notaro
And I'm getting better all the time. Like, I'm. I'm really working on it, and it's It's. It's showing some results.
Fortune Feimster
Because at night, you're like lighting a candle.
Tig Notaro
No, I don't want the place to burn down.
Fortune Feimster
Getting yourself in the mood?
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Well, I think it's partly. It's the first time in a long time that I knew that I didn't have anything until 1:15 the next day. So my brain let me. You know.
Fortune Feimster
Right.
Tig Notaro
How interesting.
May Martin
I don't know, but I feel like a human being again. But also, maybe the tiredness takes the edge off the anxiety because you're just a little out of it. So now I'm. Now I'm. I'm lucid. I'm present, and I'm anxious as well.
Fortune Feimster
You're like, may is back. You're like, I'm fully full of energy to be anxious.
May Martin
Ready for the Canada Qatar World cup game.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, when's that?
May Martin
Are you pumped tonight? Yeah, it's in a couple hours o'.
Tig Notaro
Clock. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Whoa. Oh, that's right. Well, my show's starting.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Where are you? I was gonna ask.
Fortune Feimster
I don't know.
Tig Notaro
This curtain.
Fortune Feimster
I am. This curtain is unknown. I'm in Port Maine, right near my brother. Oh, yeah?
Tig Notaro
Yeah. My brother lives right outside of Portland, Maine.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. I'm doing two shows here, two nights. Which is rare to be in a city for two nights.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
It's also Gay pride weekend, so lots of gay flags around here.
May Martin
Oh, nice.
Fortune Feimster
I'm going to eat a lobster roll. Pretty stoked about that.
May Martin
I'm going.
Fortune Feimster
I'm going to. I'm going to. I almost did something really dirty.
May Martin
What did you almost.
Tig Notaro
I'm taking my ear buds.
Fortune Feimster
I almost said I would go down on a lobster roll.
May Martin
Yeah, just go to town on that thing.
Tig Notaro
Thomas, can you wave when it's safe for me to put my.
Fortune Feimster
I think because Tig getting so worked up about it.
Tig Notaro
Fortune, Marie, whatever you said, it makes
Fortune Feimster
me want to do it more because I'm not. I don't really talk dirty that much, except for I do use Zord cooter a lot.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Do you use that romantically?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
Like, I can't wait to touch your cooter. You got the most beautiful cooter in the world.
Fortune Feimster
You got that nice cooter. No, that. That word cannot be romantic.
May Martin
No, it really can't.
Tig Notaro
I don't know with you, Fortune Marie. I honestly don't.
May Martin
It's true, though. I. I sometimes find myself, like, it is enjoyable to scandalize you guys sometimes.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. You do a good job of it as well, my friend. I have Clutched my pearls several times with some of your stories.
Tig Notaro
I haven't done it once.
May Martin
You haven't scandalized us.
Tig Notaro
No, yeah, you're right.
Fortune Feimster
You need to step. Step up your game.
Tig Notaro
No, I am the senior citizen of the group. I have to set a good example.
May Martin
That's true.
Fortune Feimster
That's true.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. I got to get my little D in a row and say, come on, little quack quacks. Yeah, this way.
Fortune Feimster
Let's keep it in line.
Tig Notaro
Let's keep it clean. Let's keep it in line. Let's go.
May Martin
I'm the middle child over here. Yeah, you are. Actually, I wonder if we do fall into those roles like those tropes. Yeah, Tig has.
Fortune Feimster
Tig has oldest sibling energy with the pod for sure.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Why? Because I get my little quack quacks in line.
Fortune Feimster
Yes.
Tig Notaro
That's what I call Max and Finn and. How cute is that?
Fortune Feimster
That's really cute.
Tig Notaro
Come on, my little quack quacks. Especially when we're crossing the street on a crosswalk. That's where it really comes from. It's like, come on, little quack quacks. Yeah, get across that street.
Fortune Feimster
Keep it moving.
Tig Notaro
Keep it moving. Quack quacks.
Fortune Feimster
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Tig Notaro
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May Martin
I love when someone's a street crossing guard. Is that what they're called? Like a. Yeah. And my favorite is when it's a street that doesn't really need that. Like, it has a stoplight and, you know, and they. People take such pride in that role. And I love to. I love to say good morning. Thank you. And then.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, Toronto has a lot of those. And I would chat with those cross crossing guards.
Tig Notaro
Really?
May Martin
Toronto has a famous one on Queen Street. She likes to dance.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, really?
May Martin
Yeah. She's really.
Tig Notaro
You like small talk with a stranger?
Fortune Feimster
We would chat as they. As they were walking me across the street.
Tig Notaro
Wow.
Fortune Feimster
I mean, sometimes I don't want to brag. They were familiar with my work.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, with your straightened hair.
Fortune Feimster
So we were chatting about that. You know what I mean?
May Martin
I. I went to Banff I just got back from Banff.
Fortune Feimster
I've never been great.
May Martin
Bamf. What a great word. I know.
Tig Notaro
It's so good.
Fortune Feimster
I've never been.
Tig Notaro
There's like that kind of word where you're. You start saying it and then all of a sudden your mouth throws all let at the end.
Fortune Feimster
Bam, bam, bam.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so beautiful there. Have you been there, Tig?
Tig Notaro
I have not.
May Martin
It's like Disney mountains, rivers. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
My friends Shannon and Jason, they went there. They went skiing, I believe, for their honeymoon.
May Martin
It's very romantic.
Tig Notaro
And they split up, too, so.
May Martin
Oh, great.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, I. But they're friends. Everything's fine.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, good. That was our follow up question.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah, good. I was staying in this hotel that's like a castle and it's haunted. And first of all, I'd be going in the elevator and I'd hear, hi, handsome. Like, it happened like three times. And it was so nice, and it was just handsome listeners. And then. So I. I met this guy. We had a mutual friend or something, and he was like, hey, yeah. He said, I know. Brett Goldstein. And he said, last night I went to a seance in the hotel, and he was. I mean, this. The hair on his arm he showed me was standing up, just talking about it. He said I was holding this, like, divining rod that they gave me and it was spinning. He showed me videos. He was freaking out. And I was like, wow, I wish I'd been there. A few hours later, I start talking to this guy. He says, yeah, I held a seance here for people last night. And I was like, oh, my God, I heard. And he goes, we tricked them. We pranked them so much. I was like, you're kidding. The guy was all, man. Yeah. He said, we had the lights going. We had these fake, like, sound recording things. I could not believe it.
Tig Notaro
And. And do you think you would have fallen for it? You would have fallen for it?
Kristen Kish
May.
Tig Notaro
Of course.
May Martin
I would have been telling that anecdote
Fortune Feimster
on the phone like, ghosts are real. I'm 110, sure.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And what about you? How would you have handled that fortune?
Fortune Feimster
I would be, like, open to it and a little suspicious.
May Martin
Yeah, it sounded like it was really well produced. Like, and. And the. The hotel is famously haunted. And it sounded like they scared the shit out of these people. They went to all, like, stairwells and were like, I think they made it colder in one stairwell and things like that. Like, they really went, oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
I think I would have been open about 25% and suspicious. 75. Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Because I'm always. I'm. I'm interested in. Let's. Let's see something. I. Absolutely.
Fortune Feimster
I mean, there's usually one cheesy moment where you're like, okay, yeah, yeah.
May Martin
Where they go a little too far.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Like they're. They're killing it. And then suddenly it takes a turn. You're like, well, I know that's not real.
May Martin
Yeah. I mean, the seance was hosted by a former Playboy bunny who has a podcast on Paranormal Activity. So that would have been my first red flag, I think.
Fortune Feimster
Like, yeah, ghost titties.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my. I forgot about. Yeah, ghost.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
People yell, yeah, ghost. During my show because I make a ghost reference at one point and I've had several people go, yeah, ghost.
Tig Notaro
I mean, I would remember it if somebody yelled, yeah, ghost.
Fortune Feimster
Right.
Tig Notaro
But just in my day to day, I wouldn't hold that up.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, ghost titty situation.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
You weren't in it. I was in it.
May Martin
But did you. Do you ever have a thing, guys, where you're on stage and then someone yells, like a handsome reference and then you have to explain it to the rest of the audience. You're like, I do.
Tig Notaro
It was totally familiar with it.
May Martin
I find it's a mix sometimes.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, no, for sure.
Fortune Feimster
I leave it be. I'll let it float up there.
May Martin
Yeah, that's smart.
Fortune Feimster
Or I'll say it back to them and just not make a reference to it.
May Martin
Right. And just move on.
Fortune Feimster
Like when they can go either way. Oh, yeah, ghost. I go, yeah, ghost. And just keep going.
Tig Notaro
There's some people in the audience where it's like you're a little too eager to talk, you know, and so you have to kind of. I do. I. I feel like I have to steer clear, else they'll, you know.
May Martin
Yeah. Get to.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Get a little too.
May Martin
I always go. I always forget. Like you said that most of the audience might be familiar. So someone goes like Mae Marie or something. And then I spend 10 minutes going, oh, I have a podcast. And Tig Notaro is also on it. And Fortune sometimes says things that Tig has to say.
Tig Notaro
Thomas is the producer.
May Martin
Me, we're now on Hulu, but yeah,
Tig Notaro
you can stream us a day earlier. And so, of course, this is also a may fact. And. Yeah.
May Martin
So, Tig, have you been home quite a bit? Are you settled?
Tig Notaro
I got home like four days ago, maybe.
May Martin
And I guess the boys are on summer break, right?
Tig Notaro
I got home three days ago. Yes. And they're doing sports camps. Like they each Did a week. Yeah, you know, like Max. Yeah, Max did a week of volleyball camp and. Yes. Oh my gosh, so cute.
May Martin
Do they lower the net for these kids?
Tig Notaro
Well, here's the cute part.
May Martin
Don't tell me there's no net.
Tig Notaro
No, there is. But he was so excited for volleyball camp and he had never played in his life. But it was something he was convinced was his new passion. And he shows up, Stephanie drops him off and well, the rest of the class was 12, 13 year old girls with iced coffee and hair down to their waist and wearing ugg boots.
Fortune Feimster
What?
May Martin
Iced coffee.
Fortune Feimster
Quite a departure.
Tig Notaro
And yeah, Stephanie was like, how, how is. Because she was like, oh my God. Oh my God. As these like young girls are showing up.
May Martin
But because is it one of those like age. Age 9 to 13 and then something.
Fortune Feimster
I don't really.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
It was all.
Tig Notaro
All girls. Well, I guess there's one little boy that was his age, but she was like. And you'd have to know him. But she was like, how is volleyball camp? And he goes, well, I ate my lunch in a hole I dug.
Fortune Feimster
Oh my God.
Tig Notaro
So cute. I ate my lunch a hole I dug. Yeah. Yeah.
May Martin
Oh my God.
Tig Notaro
So yeah. And then Matt Finn has been going to baseball camp this week. I mean, I'm sorry, basketball and. Yeah. But it's good.
May Martin
That's really.
Tig Notaro
Things are good.
May Martin
I love what the things kids say
Tig Notaro
that like all of this interest in volleyball. Then it's like, well, I ate my whole. My. I ate my lunch in a hole I dug. Okay, good. So it went well.
May Martin
Oh my God. Picturing him digging that hole and then settling in there.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Do you think that the two of them like. Because you and Stephanie are both funny but you have a different sense of humor in certain ways. So that your boys pick up on one of yalls styles yet?
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I mean Max is very dry.
May Martin
Okay. He's very dry, but intentionally like he's trying to be funny, but he's dry
Tig Notaro
and he is funny.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And he wasn't trying to be funny about his lunch that he ate in the hole that he dug. That's just his personality. But yeah, he's very, very dry. And I talk on stage about how he was born 60 years old.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
You know, just like when he talks and he's not being funny, he, he just is. He just. His delivery is just. It's just so it's accidentally funny, you know?
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And then when he's being funny, it's, it's. The delivery is really there. That's it's good. Like today, when I was walking through the dining room, there's this box with an award I had gotten for Star Trek. And. And he was like, hey, Mayor. Or no, Was it him? Oh, yeah, yeah, Max. He goes, hey, Mayor, what. What's in this box? And I said, oh, just an award I won. And he goes, oh, yeah, no big deal. I just won an award.
Fortune Feimster
You know, like.
Tig Notaro
Like, you know, he gets. And he's. He's just. Yeah, just like, making those kind of comments to me as I'm walking off, heading upstairs to record. I'm like, you know, Max, it's no big deal. I'm just like, a big star.
Fortune Feimster
I'm gonna go record.
Tig Notaro
Handsome.
Fortune Feimster
Just like everybody else.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, just like everybody else.
Fortune Feimster
I'm just getting a leg in at a time.
May Martin
That's so good.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
And then, does Finn have a different sense of humor?
Tig Notaro
Well, you know, he said something last night that Stephanie and I thought was so funny. He's kind of funny more accidentally because he's such a little character, but it was such a funny observation. I said something like, oh, I forgot, I have a show tonight. And then he goes, that's so funny. He was like, you're saying, oh, I forgot I have a show tonight. And then there's people that bought tickets and they're excited to go to your show. And you're like, oh, I forgot I have a show tonight. So the thought that he was like, he imagined both sides of that. And it's not that I wasn't looking forward to my show. I mean, obviously I forgot. But doesn't that happen during your day? You'll be like, oh, God, I have a show tonight for sure. And so he was teasing me about how casual I was about that. And he was like, there's people that, like, bought tickets and they're excited to see you. And you're like, oh, I forgot I have a show tonight. And so, yeah, that was really funny. Yeah, he's. He's definitely just an amusing character.
May Martin
Yeah, for sure.
Tig Notaro
Because he's very type A, very on it, very organized, very everything. And we just marvel over his. His organization. Yeah. And like, if somebody's like, what's your favorite meal? And he's like, oh, kale and water.
May Martin
Oh, my God, you're joking. Kale and water.
Tig Notaro
Kale.
May Martin
Oh, my God. It must be cooking that kale nicely.
Fortune Feimster
It's raw.
May Martin
No, sir.
Fortune Feimster
It is.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, it is raw. I mean, it's massaged. It's softened.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, thank God.
Tig Notaro
Oh, boy. And it looks like Mr. Thomas has a little visitor.
May Martin
Yeah. Beautiful angel. This is a little pup we're fossil fostering. Her name is Honey.
Tig Notaro
Oh, Honey.
Fortune Feimster
I was like, I didn't know you had a dog. Look at her.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. I mean, you have a dog.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And then he. One of his dogs passed recently.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, no.
May Martin
That's so nice that you're fostering.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And so would it help that the pup is on the podcast and maybe somebody can be like, I like him.
May Martin
I think we're gonna adopt her.
Tig Notaro
So I was about to say, I
Fortune Feimster
was like, this dog seems really sweet, well behaved. This dog might not be going anywhere. I think we might have to keep her.
Tig Notaro
Look at her. She is foster fail.
May Martin
Honey is settling in. Thomas, if you need. If you ever need a dog sitter, I. I want to get into fostering and I want to see what it's like to have a dog around. I would love. Place is called Wags and Walks. It's really great.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, I've heard of that place. I miss my doggy so much.
Tig Notaro
Sh.
Fortune Feimster
But that's fine. I'm glad you have a dog.
May Martin
How old is honey? 2.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, that's a good age.
May Martin
Yeah. I was thinking, like, if I was gonna get a dog, I could get an older dog because I'm away, you know, or. And I'm. I'd be new to it. I don't think I could handle a puppy.
Fortune Feimster
But the puppy stage is tough. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And is Honey beyond that is too beyond the puppy stage.
May Martin
She's like, look at her puppy energy. But she's is.
Fortune Feimster
It's way better biting inside.
Tig Notaro
God, she's so cute.
May Martin
Look at her. Where.
Fortune Feimster
What kind of dog is that?
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Mix a what?
Tig Notaro
She's a terrier.
Fortune Feimster
Mix a terrier.
May Martin
She is a real dog. Like, she is classic.
Fortune Feimster
I can see the terror, but I see something else in there.
Tig Notaro
Is it May?
May Martin
Her face?
Kristen Kish
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
That the face does not match the terrier, but the body does.
Tig Notaro
Well, what a sweet little pup.
May Martin
I would love to see that little
Fortune Feimster
treat for all of our lesbian watchers.
Tig Notaro
Maybe you should start with a goldfish, May.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, maybe.
May Martin
I think maybe you're right. I have a lot of fun to
Fortune Feimster
get a friend to share a dog with. Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah. I could do. I'd love to do that.
Tig Notaro
I know you got a lot of love to share. I mean, so much give or whatever.
May Martin
So much. Yeah. I saw some elk in Banff. Big, beautiful elk.
Fortune Feimster
To give them hugs and kisses.
May Martin
No, they.
Fortune Feimster
They.
May Martin
They can charge you. They're very aggressive. But then I went on a bike ride. You can rent a bike. And I went way deep into the woods, like, oh no. Where it was just me in the forest. And I could hear like my heart beating.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, cowboy. But aren't there a lot of bears around there?
May Martin
Well, I see a pile of poo, like fresh bear poo in the middle of the road. I was convinced it was bear poo. And so I pick up the pace on my bike and I get back and then they said, oh yeah, there's someone saw a bear today just around there. He's called the boss. He's £700 and he had a tracker on him, but he ate it off. I was like, why didn't the hotel
Fortune Feimster
tell me that when I have a hundred pound bear?
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
May Martin
And when I rented the bike, no one warned me.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, well, I mean I, I think it's just common knowledge that that area is full of bears.
Tig Notaro
Don't make me feel bad about them.
Fortune Feimster
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Tig Notaro
Leave them be. Should we get to our question?
May Martin
Let's do it.
Tig Notaro
Question.
May Martin
Hey bear.
Tig Notaro
Hey girl.
Fortune Feimster
You guys, this is a treat. Literally. Today's question Asker is a chef and TV host who won season 10 of Top Chef and went on to host the show herself. She's gone on to host other shows like Fast Foodies and Iron Chef. Quest for an Iron Legend. Her memoir, Accidentally on Purpose is a New York Times bestseller. Kristen Kish is asking today's question. By the way, Kristen is a badass. I have done two shows with Kristen now. I did fast foodies where they take they would take your favorite fast food dishes and make it like chef. This chef version of it, which was nice. Incredible.
Tig Notaro
That's awesome. That's an actual like long running TV show or it was. I don't just like an episode.
Fortune Feimster
I don't do it Anymore. It was. Was right. It was in Covid times.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
Fortune Feimster
And her dish, I think Panda Express was one of my fast food choices. And they did, like, their version of it, which was, like, unbelievable. And then I recently did an episode of Celebrity Top Chef, and it was a. I was a judge with kids, but I was like, you know, I love food, and I love, like, really, Like, I'm foodie food.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And I was so pumped. I was like, oh, my God, I get to be on Top Chef. I'm gonna eat this incredible food. Like, these chefs are gonna, like, blow my mind. And then they were like, you're gonna be judging with kids. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna be eating pizza and ice cream. It was so fun. But I did, in fact, eat pizza and ice cream. But Chris is awesome. She was also on Traders and was a very smart player on there.
May Martin
Yeah, she was. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
I would lose. I don't even know how to play Traders any game. I'm like, I don't get what's happening. I just want to go home.
Fortune Feimster
If I had to be the traitor, it would kill me. Kill me.
May Martin
I feel like if someone looked you in the eye and said, fortune.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
I would be like, okay, yeah, I'd be. I would be the end of my career, because it would show such a dark side of me.
Tig Notaro
No, Fortune wouldn't say, yes. Fortune would be like, I don't know. I don't know. What would I say? I don't even know.
Fortune Feimster
You just be like, I don't want to be here. The food's terrible. I want to go home.
May Martin
You'd be like, now, am I not supposed to say if I'm a traitor here?
Fortune Feimster
Here would. Your interview would be like. They would interview you, you know, where you, like, talk crap about people, and you'd be like, who cares? What are we doing here?
May Martin
And also, you wouldn't know who any of the people were if you.
Tig Notaro
I don't even know who she is. Which one is she?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Now, wait. Am I. Was I. Should I have said that I was. That's exactly. I don't even know. Again, I don't know how the game works, but that I know. I would be trying to understand because Stephanie called me today on her way home to ask me about these different options in redoing our house, and I was like, you know what? Can we. When you get home, can we sit down? Like, I can't even. I can't track any of this right now. Like, we have to say this is the option. Then this is the option. Then if we don't do that. Yeah. Or just like, I can't just take it all in quickly and go, oh, yeah, let's do that. One thing.
May Martin
You know, the traders have to choose someone to murder in the night. And I feel like you'd be choosing yourself. You'd be like, get me out of here.
Tig Notaro
That's like. As a kid, I told you I'd write an F at the top of my test and just slide it on the desk and put my head down. I would just grade my own thing. Didn't I tell you that?
May Martin
I don't think so. That's so badass.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God. Yeah.
May Martin
You're like, I'll stay in the trouble.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. Here. It's enough.
Fortune Feimster
Good night.
Tig Notaro
I'm out.
May Martin
All right, let's hear the question.
Tig Notaro
Yes, Kristen, apologies.
Kristen Kish
Hello, handsome pod. It's me, Kristen Kish, your unofficial resident chef of your podcast.
Fortune Feimster
That's right.
Kristen Kish
Whether you like it or not, Fortune. I go way back, so. Hello again, Tigan. May I look forward to meeting you in person one day. I am so honored and thrilled to be asked to ask you all a question. And my question is, what food opinion instantly makes you distrust a person? Really think about it.
Tig Notaro
Oh, I. I thought I didn't have an answer, but I do.
May Martin
Oh, yes.
Tig Notaro
Yes. Yeah. Well, I'm going to. This is breaking news.
May Martin
Oh, sure.
Fortune Feimster
That's my breaking news. That's really good song.
Tig Notaro
I am a vegan person.
May Martin
No.
Fortune Feimster
Okay.
Tig Notaro
That's the breaking news. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
We definitely did not know this.
Tig Notaro
Hear me out. I am. And I think that when people have an opinion about it and about how I eat or what I eat, or,
Fortune Feimster
like, a really strong one.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, where they really think they know what it is or that, you know, you can't get enough protein and all of that kind of stuff, I'm like, snooze fest.
May Martin
Yeah. You know, it's like, it's a red flag about a personality that they would assume that you haven't done some research. Right. You don't know.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah. And it's also, like, if you want to eat meat and dairy, you should just eat meat and dairy. But you can get protein from chickpeas and lentils and, you know, tofu, and maybe that doesn't sound good to you, and that's fine. But people are convinced, or they come in real heavy with the, I can't get protein on that diet, and it's just not. It's just not true.
May Martin
Yeah, it's. It's provably untrue.
Tig Notaro
It's provably untrue. So that's when sometimes I'm like, nah. I
Fortune Feimster
who think the fire alarm is going off in my hotel.
Tig Notaro
Oh, my gosh. What is with this episode? Fortune, get up and go see if. If anything is.
May Martin
I thought that was my house because of.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
May.
Fortune Feimster
Is this causing you. Great.
Tig Notaro
But wait. Fortune. Fortune. No. Yeah. Go check out what's going on, because you might. What floor are you on?
Fortune Feimster
Three.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
May Martin
You'll be fine out the door.
Fortune Feimster
You guys chat amongst yourself.
Tig Notaro
Mute yourself.
May Martin
Oh. Did it stop, or she just.
Tig Notaro
No, she muted it.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Tig Notaro
That's going on with fire today.
May Martin
But that's weird.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And also, you need fire to cook as a chef, so this is all tying in together. Yeah. I feel like when you hear a fire alarm, you got to get a move in and just make sure.
May Martin
Very chill about that.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, I cannot be chill. You gotta go.
May Martin
Parv was being very chill about the fire near me, and I was like, it. They spread so fast. Like, so fast. I'm gonna send you a video of. Of the fire.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
May Martin
This was during my massage, so I missed it, but this is there. I sent it. So this will show you.
Tig Notaro
Fortune's back. Oh, my God. This is. That's your house.
May Martin
Whoa. That's intense.
Tig Notaro
That is intense.
Fortune Feimster
Wait, what's intense? I'm back.
May Martin
Y.
Tig Notaro
They just shared a video of their house on fire.
May Martin
No.
Tig Notaro
And it is. Or whatever.
Fortune Feimster
Whoa. That's a lot more smoke than I realized.
Tig Notaro
That's what we're all saying also.
Fortune Feimster
Dang. That could have been real bad. May.
Tig Notaro
I know of this tying in. Plus, you were saying that the people. Well, May's back. Of the house on fire Europe. Your hotel just went up in flames. And then we have a chef who is asking us a question, and that ties into the unhel. The unhappiness. House. People cooking behind your house.
May Martin
Oh, my God. Yeah. What is going on?
Tig Notaro
Chefs use fire to cook.
Fortune Feimster
I didn't see this coming. So full circle.
Tig Notaro
Look at this.
Fortune Feimster
The alarm stopped, so I'm assuming it was a false alarm, or else it would still be going.
May Martin
I think it was.
Fortune Feimster
This is, like, my fifth time in a hotel where the alarm's gone off.
May Martin
Whenever I hear a fire alarm. I think it's a teenager trying to get out of an exam pulling the alarm.
Fortune Feimster
Well, it's most every time I've been in one, everyone kind of. Of like, wait, sit out in their room for a while, and then they start kind of poking their head out the door. Is this for real?
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I've had. I've had them go off at like three in the morning at hotels. That's the worst. And they make you go outside and everyone's in their little PJs.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, well, I just want to tell people, don't set anything on fire to get out of an exam. Just.
May Martin
No.
Tig Notaro
Grade your own paper and put an F. And then you are out of your ex exam.
May Martin
I think, anyway, my unpopular. My food opinion that makes me not trust people is kind of like the other side of the coin of yours, Tig. Which is like when. When people claim to really not like any fast food. And I'm like, have you tried.
Tig Notaro
There's a fire truck.
May Martin
Fortune, there's a fire truck.
Tig Notaro
This is outrageous.
Fortune Feimster
It might be going somewhere else.
May Martin
It's not going somewhere else.
Fortune Feimster
You guys continue. There's nothing to see.
Tig Notaro
You're like the world's worst detective. You're. The fire alarm went off and then a truck is coming and you're like,
Fortune Feimster
it's probably as the. As violins play like the Titanic. You're like, it's fine, everyone. It's fine. Enjoy the music.
May Martin
That's crazy.
Fortune Feimster
Sorry, Meg. I didn't mean for that fire. The fire happening around me to interrupt you.
May Martin
Well, you should probably look and see if there's any handsome firemen.
Fortune Feimster
I think I'm good.
Tig Notaro
No, we're under contract. We need to keep you safe.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, I have to make sure this gets on Hulu.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, we're under contract with Head Gum and Hulu.
Fortune Feimster
Okay.
May Martin
No, I was saying that I don't trust when people claim to not like any fast food. Like, if you're like, you know, what's the. What are the best fries? Like, is it McDonald's, Burger King? In and out. And if people are like, I don't like any fast food, I'm like, it's okay to say, you know, you're. You're trying not to eat them or whatever, but. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's good. Like, that tastes good. Like, right? It's like people saying they don't like the Beatles. I'm like, you're just trying to be kind of.
Tig Notaro
Well, Fortune's not crazy about them.
May Martin
You don't dislike them. You just are not.
Fortune Feimster
I dislike them.
May Martin
That's when people say, I don't like.
Fortune Feimster
But I'm not like, dying over them like you guys.
May Martin
Yeah, that's fine. It's just when people are. Don't acknowledge the contribution to music.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, huge contribution. For sure.
May Martin
Then I'm like, you're just being contrary now.
Tig Notaro
I do want to be difficult with you for a second. May.
May Martin
Hit me.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, because you really don't like fast food.
Tig Notaro
Well, no, I'm not. I'm not saying that. I. I just haven't had it in a long time, aside from Chipotle or something like that. And. And your taste buds really do change.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
And that is a real thing. That is a very real thing. And sometimes I think a lot of those French fries and stuff are cooked in, like, beef oil and what have you.
May Martin
Right.
Tig Notaro
So there could be that.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
But there are fast food. I. I remember fast food that I liked, and not even.
May Martin
It doesn't even have to be, like, the big chains, but people who are like, I don't. I just.
Tig Notaro
You know, they just want top.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tig Notaro
Top Chef food.
May Martin
But it is true. Like, my mom, every birthday, she's like, you know what? I just want McDonald's on my birthday. I'm gonna treat myself. I never have McDonald's. And she's always disappointed because if you never eat McDonald's and you forget that a. There's a huge range depending on the location and stuff. There's some in Toronto that are, like, made of wood and then. Yeah. And every time.
Tig Notaro
But even still, like, with. I remember being at a party, and there was, like, a vegan platter of cheese.
May Martin
Yeah.
Kristen Kish
And.
Tig Notaro
And I was eating it, and I turned to this woman next to me, and I go, oh, my God, this is so delicious. I can't remember what kind of cheese, what flavor it was, but. Or name. And I said, you have to try this. And she took a bite, and she goes, how long have you been vegan? And I was like, at, like, a decade, almost a decade. And she was like, this tastes nothing like Swiss cheese. And so that's that idea of, like, your taste buds totally change. And, like, if you eat healthy for, like, a month. Certain stuff that, like, comfort food doesn't even. We used to always eat even though it was vegan. We would eat the vegan Mac and cheese when Max and Finn were, like, three, and they were really into that, and we ate it all the time. I think Thomas even did, too. But then they grew out of that. And then we cooked it for some reason recently. And when I ate it, it was the most disgusting thing. And I couldn't believe our family kind of lived off of that for a year.
May Martin
Yeah, I had that with Rice a Roni. Remember Rice a Roni?
Tig Notaro
Of course I do.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
Like, so delicious. What a decadent treat. And then I. I tried it as an adult and was, like, nasty.
Fortune Feimster
It is so disgusting.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting when that happens.
May Martin
What about you, Fortune?
Fortune Feimster
Well, this is. This goes down to a palette thing, too, because Tig could argue that, like, you. Your palette changes. So this happens because you've been eating healthier. But I. These people that eat a dessert, take one bite of a dessert, and they're like, it's too rich. This is just too rich.
Tig Notaro
I can't.
Fortune Feimster
Nope. I'm like, it's a dessert. That's what it's supposed to be doing for us. Yeah. And that. It is decadent. It's doing its job. It's a treat.
May Martin
Yeah, I'm with you there.
Fortune Feimster
Get on it.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
But I do understand some people are really healthy, and so that is very sweet to them, but. But they proclaim it to everyone, like, it's too rich.
May Martin
I can't.
Fortune Feimster
You're like, all right, well, I like
Tig Notaro
sweet and I like rich. But when I have birthday cake, I need. Or even cupcakes, I just need a little bit less frosting. Am I the awful one, too? I do, because I. I love.
May Martin
I like the cake bit.
Tig Notaro
Yes. I love all of it, but I just like a hint of icing.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Well, with cupcakes, you know, they go heavy on the top. I like. To the. To. To your point, sometimes I'll take the bottom of the cupcake and put it on the top so it's more evened out. Not wanting too much icing on a bite. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Thank you for understanding.
Fortune Feimster
I also don't love when people. And my mom's guilty of this, but at this age, it's not changing the. This isn't necessarily a food opinion, but people that won't even try something, they've just decided they don't like it.
Tig Notaro
Yes.
Fortune Feimster
And I'm like, but you have no clue.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Any. And it's not even something that necessarily. I can understand certain things that look weird, you know, quote unquote, where you're like, I don't know, like. Like, uni. Doesn't that. Isn't that the, like, yellow tongue looking like thing?
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Right.
May Martin
It's crt.
Fortune Feimster
I can understand seeing something like that being like, not for me, but there's so many dishes that just, like, people will just be like, I just know I'm not gonna like it. And you're like, you don't know that. You really don't know that just from looking at it. So I. I I like when people, like, my palate has evolved tremendously over the years. I mean, growing up in small town North Carolina, I. I wouldn't eat, like, onions or tomatoes or anything, you know, I don't know what. That's not even weird. But as I got older, I would allow myself to, like, just, like, just try it. You might like it.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And then I would surprise myself and like, oh, this is actually amazing.
Tig Notaro
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And if you don't like it, you can just take a swig of water and move on. Right?
May Martin
This is a quote from something. But my dad used to always say he, like, talks to himself, and he would always go, try it. You'll like it. And then you go. So I tried it. I thought I was gonna die. Was that from something or did he just make.
Tig Notaro
I think it's just from your dad.
Fortune Feimster
So I tried it.
May Martin
I thought I was gonna die.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, well, Max and Finn, at school, it's called a no, thank you bite. Have you heard that?
May Martin
No. I like that, though. What is it?
Tig Notaro
Yeah, just. Just try a no, thank you bite.
May Martin
Right.
Tig Notaro
So. So have a bite.
May Martin
Then you're allowed to say, no, thank you.
Tig Notaro
Then you're allowed to say, no, thank you, but don't just. Just say, huh, that's really good.
Fortune Feimster
I also love when people will take a bite of something and it's terrible, and they're like, this is awful. Taste this.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And you're like, why do I. Why do you want to put me through that, too?
Tig Notaro
Oh, my God, you guys, this is so bad.
Fortune Feimster
You have to please try this.
Tig Notaro
I have the epitome of that. And I, as you can imagine, like, this is classic me. Okay. I was at one of the Oscar events, and it was like a daytime brunch, and I was so much wanting a nice espresso drink. And so I didn't know that. The manager overheard me, and they didn't offer it, but he said, you know what? I'll go in the kitchen and have somebody make you an espresso. I wanted a cappuccino. And so he brings it out. And I was like, thank you so much. It was so nice that he did that. And so I was very thankful. I took a sip. It was the most disgusting cappuccino I had ever had in my life. And I did that. I turned to everybody around me. I was like, please take a sip of this. And it first started out as a real thing where I was like, it is like, you cannot believe that this is a cappuccino. And so a Couple of people from our film took sips and then I went wide with it. And this cup. No, he wasn't there. He wasn't. He had already walked off. This became. Let us see how many people we can get. And the cup, as I would bring it to somebody and I'd be like, take a sip. And it would have lipstick marks all over. And they were like, how many people have tasted this? I'm like, literally 12. Please be the next one. And they could not believe how disgusting it was that they would join in being like, dude, you have to try this cappuccino.
Fortune Feimster
It was. What he did to it.
Tig Notaro
I have no. I. This was like. This was. You know how you talk about the horrible. You know, it's a bad coffee shop if there's a lot of flavor. Jars of flavors in the background. This was like 10 steps lower. And it was at a nice place in Los Angeles. I don't know what happened.
May Martin
Burnt and sour. And it was.
Tig Notaro
Whatever it was, it was so bad. But it was. I cannot say I'm exaggerating when I think it got to 15 to 20 people. And it became this joke where everybody was in and they were like, okay, I'll do it. And then like, wait, I gotta get my friend to taste it, man. Tasted. Everybody's tasted this disgusting. And. But yeah, the guy, the manager, he wasn't anywhere near us.
May Martin
That's so validating that everybody agreed, though.
Fortune Feimster
It was.
Tig Notaro
But it was also so fun and funny that everyone got on board with tasting this disgusting coffee that had lipstick marks all around the thing.
Fortune Feimster
It was probably a mix of like, like, sour espresso with, like, expired soy milk, something like.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, I don't know what it was.
Fortune Feimster
It.
Tig Notaro
No, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't. The. The. I think it was almond milk. It wasn't that. It was truly.
Fortune Feimster
I just had some sour espresso before we taped because the coffee shops here close at like, 3. And so the hotel had. I got the espresso and I'm like,
Tig Notaro
isn't it infuriating when you get a bad coffee?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, you know, coffee snow.
May Martin
When I was in Portland, Maine, I went to have dinner on a boat. And I didn't know I'd picked, like, a really touristy place. I think I told this, actually. But I showed up and I'd made a reservation. It was 8:30. I got there, they go, we're closing soon. So. And I was like, oh. But I made a reservation. There's five of us. And then we sit. They're like, okay, well. Yep. And then we. We get the menus and we order, and then she start. Brings out a vacuum cleaner, starts vacuuming around us, around our feet. Really good.
Tig Notaro
Gosh.
Fortune Feimster
You, like, you offered this reservation time.
Tig Notaro
Is this the Portland, Maine fire episode?
May Martin
Yeah. Yeah. And then I said. I said, what's. What's good on the menu? Do you have any special? She goes, well, there's these. The chef does these Brussels sprouts. They are divisive. You're gonna love them or hate him. I was like, okay. Paula got those.
Tig Notaro
Yeah. And what? How'd you feel?
May Martin
They were pretty nasty. They were pretty good. Yeah.
Tig Notaro
You know what? My aunt in Austin, she. When she. She's so against veganism, and she's so funny about it, because I'll. I'll, you know, send a little spoon her way. And she does this every time.
Fortune Feimster
That's cute.
Tig Notaro
Disgusting.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Fortune Feimster
Disgusting. I love food. I love good food. It makes me so happy.
May Martin
Same. I'm curious to hear Kristen's answer.
Tig Notaro
Answer.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
Yeah, Chef. Yeah, this is juicy.
Kristen Kish
I have a very passionate answer. It's the food opinion, but it's the food opinion that also comes with a reaction, like a physical reaction. So it is the people that don't like mayonnaise. And when you say, what food do you really hate? Oh, mayonnaise. And then they start immediately, dry heaving. Like, they can't even get the word mayonnaise out of their mouth without barfing through it. How old are you? Are you? How old are you? Children react more mature.
Tig Notaro
Mayonnaise.
Kristen Kish
Mayonnaise is delicious. It's a vehicle. It's fat. It's a way of browning things on the outside of a grilled cheese.
Fortune Feimster
Yum.
Kristen Kish
You know, smothered in a salad. I'm from the Midwest. We call mayonnaise things salads. It is delicious. It's oil and eggs, and then sometimes maybe a little acid and some salt and some different things. Also, the people that say, I don't like mayonnaise, but they love aioli. Come on, give me a break. Those are the same people on Yelp that give you a horrible review because they didn't like the way. Way the menu looked. I don't know. On no merit, basically.
May Martin
Yeah. But Chris. Okay, just to play devil's advocate, like, Kristen's probably making this delicious mayonnaise, homemade, fresh. Like, there's the little packets of mayonnaise can be pretty. They can. They can be pretty bad.
Fortune Feimster
You don't like them.
May Martin
You don't like them. Mayonnaise I would never gag like that. But I'm not a huge mayonnaise person. But I bet that Kristen's mayonnaise I would love.
Tig Notaro
Okay, you're going to hate this.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
My friend David Hunsberger, he was challenged.
May Martin
No.
Tig Notaro
To eat an entire jar of mayonnaise on stage at the Comedy Club in Austin. And he did it.
May Martin
He did it.
Fortune Feimster
That's disgusting.
Tig Notaro
He did it. Don't you come down hard on my little boy, David Husburger.
Fortune Feimster
I couldn't eat a whole jar of it.
Tig Notaro
Well, he wasn't looking forward to it,
Fortune Feimster
but he get anything for this?
Tig Notaro
Well, I got to tell the story on Handsome.
May Martin
Who challenged him?
Tig Notaro
The audience or I think another comedian, probably. It was a long time ago, but he's really funny.
May Martin
David Huntsberger.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, he is. He's a good guy.
May Martin
And a whole jar. Whoa.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
May Martin
Oh, geez. Oh, geez.
Tig Notaro
Oh, Tig, I die. I mean, I'm really taking in that. It was a whole, whole jar.
Fortune Feimster
A whole jar.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
That was delightful. Kristen's the best. What a badass. In the food world.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
She seems really cool.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Really, really cool.
Tig Notaro
Nice. Thanks for joining us.
Fortune Feimster
Go lesbians. We love lesbians. Everyone loves lesbians.
May Martin
Joined us. That was so beans. Wait, did you know Bjork has a girlfriend? Girlfriend?
Fortune Feimster
No, she just announced lesbian.
May Martin
Or. Yeah, Bjork, I think. Or the girlfriend did a post that was like, I love my girlfriend. And the picture and it's like, well,
Tig Notaro
straight women call their friends their girlfriends.
May Martin
No, this is not a straight woman, though.
Tig Notaro
Okay.
May Martin
Yeah.
Tig Notaro
Well, congrats to you, Bjork, and you can catch me Tig Notaro in Colorado Springs, Colorado, at the Pikes peak Center on July 16th. I'm also going to be at places like Rochester, New York, Calgary, Iowa City, Des Moines, Omaha, Oklahoma City, Cincinnati, Charleston, West Virginia, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Fresno, Napa.
May Martin
I have very, very few. I'm. If you go to maymartinmusic.com you can get the deets. But I'm gonna be in. In Guelph, Ontario, on the the 17th of July. And then I'm also going to be in Yellowknife right after that, so. And I'm going to be playing my whole album, so come out and let's see.
Tig Notaro
So you have a separate website.
May Martin
This is a music. I just realized, because I went to my main website, it's not listed. I gotta go.
Fortune Feimster
You should combine all those.
Kristen Kish
Yeah.
May Martin
This is crazy.
Tig Notaro
Yeah, we gotta.
Fortune Feimster
This is crazy.
May Martin
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I get back on the road in August. I've taken a little break to promote The Hawks, the fun show with Will Ferrell that's coming out July 16th on Netflix, so keep that in mind to watch little cowboys on there, too. In August, I'll be at West Hampton beach in New York, Foxwood Casino in Connecticut, Red Bank, New Jersey. Halifax, Canada, Provincetown, Massachusetts, Greenville, South Carolina. Wilmington, North Carolina. Then we're adding a bunch of dates like Boise, Portland, Oregon, Austin, Dayton, Louisville, Madison, Durham. Tons of dates. Denver, so be on the lookout for those.
May Martin
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, we do love you. And make sure to really take a moment right now, rate review, and also Click subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. And yeah, check us out a day earlier on Hulu, but all that stuff helps us. If you like the show, do it.
Fortune Feimster
And until next time, keep handsome.
May Martin
Handsome is hosted by Me, May Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Willette. Email us@handomepodmail.com and please follow us on social media at Handsomepod. What a podcast.
Fortune Feimster
Podcast. What a podcast.
May Martin
That was a Headgum podcast.
Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feimster
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Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, checking first is handsome, so check. I'll save first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.
Tig Notaro
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Fortune Feimster
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Tig Notaro
Each episode we're gonna go into a
Kristen Kish
deep dive from our show.
Fortune Feimster
This is us.
Kristen Kish
That's right.
Tig Notaro
We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.
Fortune Feimster
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May Martin
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Fortune Feimster
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Tig Notaro
That's what I'm hoping.
Fortune Feimster
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New episodes every Tuesday.
Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Guest: Kristen Kish (question contributor)
Air Date: July 7, 2026
This lively installment of "Handsome" features comedians Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, and Mae Martin digging into Kristen Kish’s question: "What food opinion instantly makes you distrust a person?" In classic Handsome style, the conversation zigzags through wild LA fire stories, haunted hotels in Banff, comedic asides, and heartfelt anecdotes—before landing on a spirited debate about food snobbery, “problematic” palates, and why strong mayonnaise convictions might make you untrustworthy.
[38:54] – Segment begins with Fortune teeing up Kristen Kish.
[43:57] Kristen Kish:
"What food opinion instantly makes you distrust a person? Really think about it."
[61:01] Kristen Kish:
“It is the people that don’t like mayonnaise, and when you say, what food do you really hate? ‘Oh, mayonnaise,’ and then they start immediately, dry heaving...How old are you?...Also, the people that say, I don’t like mayonnaise, but they love aioli. Come on, give me a break.”
If you missed this episode, you’ll learn:
Memorable moment: Tig’s son—stuck in a sea of older girls at volleyball camp—opts to dig his own lunch hole, and Kristen Kish’s scathing, heartfelt defense of mayonnaise.
This is a quintessential "Handsome" episode: a warm, chaotic, and wickedly funny journey from crisis to comedy, all while getting (mostly) to the heart of food-related trust issues.
If you ever dramatically pretend to gag when someone mentions mayo, just know Kristen Kish is watching—and judging.