Mae's Dad asks about conversations with inanimate objects

Summary

Podcast Summary: Handsome – “Mae's Dad Asks About Conversations with Inanimate Objects”

Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Air Date: May 12, 2026
Special Guest Question Asker: James Chatto (Mae's dad)

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Episode Overview

The ever-charming trio returns for another delightfully offbeat episode, blending familial oddities, home repairs, deep dives into object attachment, and the show’s trademark banter. The main theme is sparked by Mae’s father, James Chatto, who asks the hosts if they've ever had meaningful conversations with inanimate objects. However, as is tradition, the episode joyfully careens through stories of collapsing houses, traveling moms, and why talking to your television might make perfect sense.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. “Look at That Little House!” — Mae’s Precarious Living Situation

[01:50 – 09:58]

• Tig recounts spotting Mae’s actual house while driving with her partner Stephanie, noting its tiny, cliff-edge appearance.
  • Tig: “I took a picture, I sent it to Mae, and I said, is this your house?” — [02:52]
  • Mae: ”Yeah, you were like, Stephanie seems to think this is your house. Yeah, it was my house.” — [02:52]
• The hosts discuss the terrifying idea of Mae’s house possibly tumbling off the cliff and joke about rescue plans (featuring trampolines and cartoonish escapes).
• Fortune expresses anxiety: “Oh no, don’t give me heartbreak palpitation!” — [03:14]
• Consensus: Mae definitely needs to hassle the city for repairs.
  • Tig: “You probably should push for that.” — [05:59]
  • Fortune: “It’s gonna require some annoy annoyance from you to them.” — [06:00]
• The exchange is a signature mix of concern and comedy, with visual play-by-play as Tig shares photos of the dangerous setup.

2. Fortune’s Euro Trip, Tits Out Tub, and “Dip Your Nips”

[17:20 – 21:44]

• Fortune updates the group: she’s taking her mom, Ginger, to Europe (Copenhagen, London, Dublin), keeping the trip manageable since her mom is off chemo and feeling better.
  • “You know, I just kind of thought why not...we’ll find a hop on, hop off bus, get her up on there and that’ll be that.” — Fortune [18:12]
• Listeners responded positively, urging her to seize the moment with her mom.
• Hilarious debate over whether to finally fix Fortune’s “tits out tub,” leading to whether the new name should be “dip your nips tub.”
  • May: “You gotta dip your nips.” — [21:10]
  • Fortune: “Dip your nips or tits out tub?” — [21:29]

3. Listener Question: Conversations with Inanimate Objects (From Mae’s Dad)

[21:52 – 43:03]

a. The Question

• James Chatto, Mae’s father (and puppet maker), chimes in:
  • “Have you ever had a meaningful conversation with something that is not actually alive in its own right? That’s my question.” — [22:27]

b. The Handsome Responses

• Tig and Fortune reflect on how different their dads are compared to Mae’s:
  • Tig: “I just want to say we have very different fathers.” — [22:50]
  • Fortune: “My dad would be like, wait, what am I supposed to do?” — [22:57]
• Mae shares her childhood in a house full of talking objects thanks to her dad’s puppet collection.
  • “He would make me eggs in the morning, and as he lowered them into the boiling water, he’d make them scream and beg for their lives.” — Mae [27:19]
• Mae confesses to feeling empathy for discarded objects and talking to cars, but mostly uses personification as a tool with kids (“How dare you?” to a bump-inducing stool) — [29:00]
• Funny true stories: People who have literally married objects (The Eiffel Tower, a train station, a Ferris wheel).
  • “Erica Eiffel…married the Eiffel Tower in 2007.” — Mae [29:48]
  • Fortune: “Talk about being afraid of commitment.” — [33:58]

c. The Hosts’ Connections to Inanimate Objects

• Fortune says her bathtub would be her “romantic” object because “it’s holding me, I’m in water, so…I feel held.” — [36:43]
• Tig chooses her bed: “I’m in love with my bed.” — [37:11]
• Fortune notes her only real conversations with non-living things are at cemeteries (“in my mind, I’m talking to my grandmother, so...technically talking to a tombstone.”) — [37:20]
• Childhood plushies: Tig’s stuffed monkey “Zip” got “an earload” of her thoughts as a kid — [38:46]
• Mae volunteers to adopt Zip if Tig’s kids aren’t interested: “He could meet my bear, Malcolm, and they could chat.” — [39:36]
• The group reflects on how, for some, these conversations are a form of processing, grieving, or comfort.

d. James Chatto's Answer

• James’s classic puppetmaster response:
  • “Obviously, I have had many meaningful conversations with inanimate… well, semi inanimate creatures.” — [42:04]
• The hosts riff on his brevity and how perfectly it encapsulates his whimsical worldview.

4. Family Names and Food Books

[23:39 – 26:44]

• Mae explains her family’s mixed last names and promotes their newly published book, Acquired: The Lives and Recipes of Eight Culinary Ambassadors.
  • “If you’re a foodie, if you’re a history buff, it’s very, very juicy.” — Mae [25:18]

5. Signature Banter, Parenting Advice, and More

• Tig describes her minimalist parenting tactic (“Hey, guys.” used as a warning)—[35:24]
• Social media, gifts from the tour, and catching up on life.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Fortune’s Dad Reaction: “My dad would be like, wait, what am I supposed to do?” — [22:57]
• Tig on accidental house-spotting: “I was truly, like, there was nothing…I just…I was like, oh, look at that little house.” — [02:04]
• Mae on talking objects: “He would make me eggs in the morning, and as he lowered them into the boiling water, he’d make them scream and beg for their lives.” — [27:19]
• On a Ferris wheel marriage: “Linda Duck married a Ferris wheel that she named Bruce in 2012 after dating him for 30 years.” — Mae [33:45]
• Parenting minimalism: “If things are, like, really bad and I go beyond ‘Hey, guys,’ then they know there’s, like, a real serious issue.” — Tig [35:31]
• Fortune’s tub romance: “We’re already, you know, already tits out, and it’s holding me, I’m in water, so…” — [36:50]
• Mae on childhood empathy: “I definitely feel things like deep empathy for, like, objects I’m throwing out. I’ll suddenly feel like they’re gonna be alone in the garbage and set…” — [28:28]
• James Chatto’s succinctness: “Obviously, I have had many meaningful conversations with inanimate…well, semi inanimate creatures.” — [42:04]

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Important Timestamps

• 01:50 – 09:58: The saga of Mae’s teetering house and photos
• 17:20 – 21:44: Fortune’s Europe trip with her mom, “tits out tub” vs. “dip your nips”
• 21:52 – 43:03: Primary discussion on conversations with inanimate objects (listener question, object marriages, plushie confidantes)
• 23:39 – 26:44: Mae’s family’s new food book and oddball naming
• 35:24: Tig’s “Hey guys” parenting method
• 36:43: If you had a romantic relationship with an object…
• 38:46: Childhood stuffed animals and soul-baring conversations

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential Handsome mix: genuine affection, surreal stories, existential musings, plus a healthy amount of property peril. The question from Mae’s dad—equal parts whimsical and profound—opens up a conversation about how the things we attach feelings to (whether beds, toys, or tubs) say as much about us as they do about the objects.

[45:34 onward: Episode closes with tour plugs, book promo, and reminders to “keep it handsome.”]

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Additional Notes

• The tone is irreverent, heartfelt, and full of sideways wisdom, with Mae’s dad’s puppeteering worldview providing a perfect aperture for the hosts’ humor and vulnerability.
• If you’re curious about talking to objects, emotionally attached to your old teddy, or worrying your house might be sliding down a cliff, this is your episode.

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For Listeners

Did you ever talk to your childhood teddy? Feel wistful tossing out an old mug? You’re in good company.

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[May Martin]

Cheers.

[Tig Notaro]

Welcome to the handsome pod. It is your dear, dear friend Tig Notaro, and I am sitting here with

[May Martin]

May Martin and Fortune Feamster. I get butterflies every time that we have to. Well, because I get anxious about the order of who's gonna say hello.

[Fortune Feimster]

We never know, you guys. It's unplanned.

[Tig Notaro]

It's a little bit done.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's why we're always like. But here we are.

[Tig Notaro]

Here we are. We are all unplanned, and we're here.

[Fortune Feimster]

Is everybody having a nice day?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, I. I am. I'm just still dealing with the construction going on, and they've settled down, but again, it's like they know when we're about to record. They ramp it up. They make me nervous, and then they take it down a notch, and I hope it stays here, because I was like, oh, Lordy, this is going to be interesting.

[May Martin]

They're playing mind games with you.

[Tig Notaro]

And can I tell you something very fun that happened?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

Please spell.

[Tig Notaro]

You know this, May. Stephanie and I were driving along, and I happened to say, well, look at that little house. And I pointed to a house, and Stephanie said, that's May's house.

[Fortune Feimster]

What?

[May Martin]

I can't believe it.

[Tig Notaro]

I was like, no, it's not. And she said, that's crazy. She said, I swear to God, I think that is May's house. And I was like. I took a picture because we were sitting in traffic, and I was truly, like, there was nothing. I just. I was like, oh, look at that little house. And. And not to say your house is little. I only saw it over a. Over a fence. I saw a roof and some trim. But really, the. One of the most random things that has happened. And I. I thought for sure once I. When I was like, okay, I'm gonna take a picture and send that to May. And Stephanie was like, it might be, like, a house over or. But she said, I think that's it. And so I took the picture, I sent it to May, and I said, is this your house?

[May Martin]

Yeah. You were like, Stephanie's like, stephanie seems to think this is your house. Yeah, it was my house.

[Tig Notaro]

It was May's house.

[May Martin]

I love that you guys are connected. The fact that it can inspire a reaction like, oh, look at that little house.

[Tig Notaro]

I love that. I mean, I really thought it's because

[May Martin]

it's perched on a cliff.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

It's about to tumble into the street.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, no, don't give me heartbreak palpitation.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, well, I didn't want to make you nervous, but that is what I said. I said, look at that little house. And I was like, do you think that's going to stay?

[Fortune Feimster]

Because it's hanging off a cliff.

[Tig Notaro]

It's precariously hanging off a cliff. And. And so I did not add that in because I. I was like, I don't want to create any sort of anxiety for you.

[May Martin]

But I was like, it's there.

[Tig Notaro]

I was like, will that stay? And Stephanie said, that is amaze house.

[May Martin]

That's.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, you know what's so funny is when May was looking at this house, May told us, like, I don't. It's on a cliff. And who knows? And I was like, don't get that house.

[May Martin]

I know.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then like a week later, sold. Sold my house.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I'm like, it's. It was weirdly cheap, actually.

[Tig Notaro]

And then I drive by, what, a year or two later, and I'm like, well, look at that little place. Do you think it'll hold?

[May Martin]

That won't be there long. Yeah. So I checked in recently to be like. Because I swear, when I moved in, they said, don't worry, we're dealing with that. Like, the city's going to come and fix that. Because not, it's not only a cliff, but it's eroding inwards. Like, it's.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, I have. I have an update. They have not fixed it.

[May Martin]

Yeah, they have not.

[Tig Notaro]

It is precariously placed on the edge of a cliff.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God.

[May Martin]

And they're announcing, 2027, they're going to fix it. They're saying, oh, okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Take their time.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is not okay.

[Tig Notaro]

So I do recall now that we. We did hear that your house is on a cliff, but actually seeing it, I. I was, oh, my Lord, will we make it next April?

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm praying for those. Whoever's in that little house up there,

[Tig Notaro]

whatever stranger happens to live up there,

[Fortune Feimster]

perched on this ledge, just happens to be your podcast co host and friend.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. So let's. Let's hope we make it to April.

[May Martin]

Well, the canary.

[Tig Notaro]

Let's hope May makes it to April. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really?

[May Martin]

The canary in the coal mine is Matt and his wife living in my back house. Because that's right up against like I got a. I got a driveway. So I'm, you know. You have 30 seconds longer. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

A little time. Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Your.

[Tig Notaro]

Your guest house dwellers are going to land on the top of a car and drive away.

[May Martin]

Okay. They'll be. They'll make it then like in a cartoon. They'll land in the back of a truck.

[Tig Notaro]

In a cartoon, the house. The guest house lands in the back. It's enough to where it really caught my attention and I was.

[May Martin]

God, wait. I love that I now know the. The truth. I think I need to start contacting the city and I think you should.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, you.

[Tig Notaro]

You probably should push for that.

[Fortune Feimster]

They're not, they're not going to just be like, oh, let's go take care of this. No, it's going to require some annoy annoyance from you to them.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. Okay. Fortune. I am going to send this the picture.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh my God. Let's see it. Yeah. Because I haven't been there yet.

[May Martin]

I think this is a sign that you guys got to come over before the big one hits.

[Tig Notaro]

Do you see what?

[May Martin]

Stop. Are you serious? Oh my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

Whoa. That is. Wait right on it. I mean. Okay, here's the good news.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay, let's not lead with the good news.

[Fortune Feimster]

The good news is the cliff is not as high of a drop as I thought.

[May Martin]

You're not going to Fortune.

[Tig Notaro]

If you saw a person, if you fell down that cliff in a house just tumble.

[Fortune Feimster]

Right.

[Tig Notaro]

May is going to be fine. I'm worried about your. Your guest house dwellers.

[Fortune Feimster]

Here's the thing. Your hill is definitely eroding.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And your house is right on the cliff.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, sir.

[May Martin]

Yes, sir.

[Fortune Feimster]

So this building, the building that's right at the fence is the guest house?

[May Martin]

That's correct. Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then. And then you're. That's the. This taller one. Taller building.

[May Martin]

I mean, speaking of precarious houses, we can hear they're trying to keep yours together.

[Tig Notaro]

I know mine. Look, I. I told you the. We had some rotting in our deck and now it's getting repaired. But that's not as concerning as.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, at least this part of the hill where your house is still has a lot of vegetation. So that's helpful.

[Tig Notaro]

Is that where your house is now?

[May Martin]

Yeah. I'm looking at the picture. I'm zooming in. But, yeah, you know, the painting looks good. I just repainted.

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[Tig Notaro]

Phenomenal. The color is gorgeous.

[May Martin]

Thank you.

[Fortune Feimster]

But what I'm saying is where your house is. To the right of your house.

[Tig Notaro]

Mm.

[Fortune Feimster]

Where your house is. Not that. That's where the erosion really is.

[May Martin]

No, that's where my house is. Oh, yeah. That is the part. That's exactly the part.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because the thing about a hill is you want it to have vegetation.

[May Martin]

Why?

[Fortune Feimster]

Because it catches all the water and the rain catch it. So when it's barren, it's tricky. That's where mudslides happen.

[May Martin]

Oh, God. I mean, I. I'm. I'm worried about when they fix it. They're gonna have to come onto my property, I bet. And fix above as well.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, a lot of the plate, like, across from your house, where I just learned is your house is another, you know, very steep cliff.

[May Martin]

But it.

[Tig Notaro]

They have a retaining wall that. Where they have cement and everything supporting that. So we just need to come over, put this on the list. Thomas, we need to go over and do a retaining wall and. And put cement on there, because we gotta save the little cowboy. I don't mind at all. I'm. I'm home for 10 days and.

[Fortune Feimster]

10 days.

[May Martin]

Perfect.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah. And you wear your headgear, your head microphone.

[May Martin]

I'll make a director.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[May Martin]

I'll scurry around. I mean, I wish. You know what I wish when you were driving there, Because I bought one of those mini trampolines. And when I jump, you just see my little head. You see my head bouncing up above the fence. I wish you had seen that.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Especially if the timing happened in the way that I said, well, look at that little house. Do you think it's gonna stay up there? And then Stephanie's like, oh, that's May's house. And then moments later, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing. With your propeller hat on. Which we haven't talked about in a while. You're gonna need that when you need to escape your house.

[May Martin]

I'm gonna just cross my slide and jump off and hope.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God. Anyway, very Ra.

[Tig Notaro]

Is such a bizarre moment.

[May Martin]

I think it's a sign that I gotta have.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think so. Because Tig. Tig will occasionally have some revelations, or is that the word?

[May Martin]

Some premonitions.

[Fortune Feimster]

Premonitions.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

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[Tig Notaro]

Like what. What did I have?

[Fortune Feimster]

The one. I'll remind you of one later.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, I remember.

[Fortune Feimster]

That one.

[Tig Notaro]

So I remember that one. Yes. I was right on.

[May Martin]

Okay, so it's time. I can't ignore this. It's time to call the city.

[Tig Notaro]

You really need to may.

[Fortune Feimster]

It was.

[Tig Notaro]

It was. If I knew those people, I. And I now know I do. I. Yeah.

[May Martin]

You would advise them.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Well, I. I want to have you guys over because look at. I don't know if you can see.

[Tig Notaro]

Thank you.

[May Martin]

Do you see all these boxes?

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, what's the boxes?

[Tig Notaro]

Those are from tour.

[May Martin]

Those are all the things that people brought me on tour that I. I had to show here. Girls, there are so many things for you in there. You better believe I want to go through them all together.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I have a couple little things for you guys.

[May Martin]

Really?

[Tig Notaro]

We need to make a little social media video of our holiday. Our handsome holiday. Should we open it for our next Holly Bob?

[May Martin]

Oh, that's a good idea.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, the Holly Bob's is a whiles away, but we are going to be in person next week. We could bring some of that stuff.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah.

[May Martin]

Or we come here next week and record in person.

[Tig Notaro]

I should send these guys over to your house.

[May Martin]

Jesus, get them over. Whatever they're doing. They're working hard. I need some. Some workers.

[Tig Notaro]

They took our patio furniture, of course, off of our patio and put it in the backyard for them to work on this. And I have been out of town and I just came in two nights ago, woke up the next morning and was making breakfast for the little cubs. And I look in the backyard and I just see this guy scrolling on his phone on our chair under the umbrella. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I completely forgot. Cause he had gotten there early for work and he was waiting for the other workman. And I just saw a man. And I was like, what a bold lunatic. Just relaxing and chilling.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, just scrolling away. How funny.

[Tig Notaro]

Anyway, that's what's going on with me and May.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love it.

[May Martin]

Fortune. You're. You're in the South.

[Fortune Feimster]

I did go through Atlanta and I had lunch with Emily. Sailors from who we love. From the Indigo. Indigo Girls.

[Tig Notaro]

Delightful human.

[Fortune Feimster]

And that was so lovely, getting to see her and have a cute lunch.

[Tig Notaro]

Where did you guys go? Did you go to one of her restaurants? Doesn't she have one or two restaurants?

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[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know. I didn't ask her.

[Tig Notaro]

She. Well, this is What a deep fan I am. I know. She has had the Flying Biscuit.

[Fortune Feimster]

I knew that about that.

[Tig Notaro]

And then she had one place called Watershed.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, I'll have to Ask her. I don't know. But as we were leaving, because we were talking about the pod at, at

[Tig Notaro]

lunch and she listen.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, she. I don't think, like all the time because she's always touring, but she has an. As we were leaving, somebody went, hey, handsome. And I went, oh, hey. It's always fun in the wild.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I just found out as I. As I left this last leg of the tour to come home, I had the. The bus driver told me. Jeff, who we've talked about, told me that he is an avid listener of the pod. And I then realized he's gonna hear the episode where I talk about clogging the toilet. So there you go.

[Fortune Feimster]

There you go, Jeff.

[Tig Notaro]

There's your second gift from me.

[Fortune Feimster]

It is a trip when you. Someone in your life tells you, they listen. And then you're like, wait, what have I talked about?

[Tig Notaro]

I cannot believe my friend Megan listens. My sister in law, I think my brother probably hears some things in the background and I'm like, are you not tired of you? Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. My sister in law, who doesn't really pay attention to any of it, was like, are you on Hulu now? Now with your podcast? I'm like, yep, yes, indeed.

[Tig Notaro]

It's nice.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think people.

[May Martin]

Then people feel like they're like, caught up with us. Like they. Yeah, I have old, old high school friends and stuff. Who. Yeah. Then you don't have to do the small talk when you meet up because they know what's going on with you.

[Fortune Feimster]

They're like, how is the toilet on the bus? They. They know.

[May Martin]

They're like, oh,

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[Fortune Feimster]

I I can't remember if I told you guys this, but May and I talked about on a prelo episode about me possibly taking my mom to Europe. Did I tell you I am going to take her to Europe?

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Okay. Yeah, you did confirm.

[Fortune Feimster]

Nevermind.

[Tig Notaro]

And it's. Well we can still get into it. Why does she.

[Fortune Feimster]

I just spent a week with my mom.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Has it been a big topic of conversation like are you guys planning the trip?

[Fortune Feimster]

And we were just going back and forth because I wasn't sure like what she could handle, but I went to a bunch of her appointments with her last week and you know her, her health, you know, is not bad right now. I think being off the chemo she has more energy, she's lost 100 pounds and she's actually moving a bit faster than she has in a while. So mobility wise she's in a better place than she's been.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow.

[Fortune Feimster]

And you know, I just kind of thought why not let's. I'll figure it out. You know, there will be times where I have to take things really slow and you know, not maybe not see as much of the city as I thought. But we'll find a hop on, hop off bus, get her up on there and we'll just ride around and that'll be that.

[Tig Notaro]

Get her up on there.

[Fortune Feimster]

I have to tell the buzzer, like, give me. Give me a few minutes.

[May Martin]

Give me 10 minutes.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm trying to get her up on there.

[Fortune Feimster]

But you know, she. I want her to have these adventures while she still isn't good enough health to do it.

[Tig Notaro]

Is there any particular things that she's excited to see?

[Fortune Feimster]

She just likes to say that she's been to a country that she hasn't been to before.

[May Martin]

Oh, it's about checking it off a list.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's really about checking off a list.

[Tig Notaro]

You could just do layovers and just hop on stop. But yeah, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's. So she's going to Copenhagen, London and Dublin with me at the beginning of June. She's been to London, but that's a quick visit anyway. She really wanted to go. I'm also doing Berlin, Oslo and Stockholm. And I was like, I just don't think you can do this entire tour. So I'm just.

[May Martin]

We're.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's gonna do half of it.

[Tig Notaro]

Uh huh.

[Fortune Feimster]

But I've got. I got so many messages from people after that episode aired of people giving me suggestions. But the consensus from many of the people was that I should take her.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, yes, yes. Especially if she feels like she can do it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. And there were a lot of people getting to also take them on the trip.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

With me.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

To watch her.

[Tig Notaro]

And I was like, what? Wait. To watch her like she's a child

[Fortune Feimster]

or like a lot of people being like, I'll go with you guys and I'll take care of your.

[Tig Notaro]

And did they say you have to buy the plane ticket?

[Fortune Feimster]

I think that is part of it is that I would have to now pay for two people to go on tour with me.

[Tig Notaro]

I'll go watch them watch her.

[May Martin]

I'll watch Tig watch them watch.

[Tig Notaro]

And you don't even have to get me up on there.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh yeah, okay. You can get yourself up on the hop on, hop off bus.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, indeed.

[Fortune Feimster]

So yeah, Ginger and Fortune will be doing Europe together.

[Tig Notaro]

I hope you guys can find a tits out tub.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know tits out tub. I'm actually looking into fixing that tits out tub. So my tits might be in.

[May Martin]

No, please don't.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Why would you do this?

[Fortune Feimster]

Why would I want to be cold in the hot tub and have my tits out?

[Tig Notaro]

I mean, way to ruin everything for everyone.

[Fortune Feimster]

Still call it the tits out hot tub. But it would be nice to like be submerged when I Go for a dip.

[May Martin]

You gotta dip your nips.

[Fortune Feimster]

I gotta dip my nips. Thanks, May. Yes.

[Tig Notaro]

Title Tub vs Dip My Nips tub. Maybe we can do a. A social media post and have people vote. Are you tits out or dip your nips?

[Fortune Feimster]

Dip your nips or tits out tub?

[May Martin]

Okay, now that we're calling it dip your nips, I'm. I'm less sad about losing.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, we just needed something that rhymed to make you feel better.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Should we get to our question?

[Tig Notaro]

I think we should. I think that. I think it's a perfect suggestion, considering that's our show.

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[May Martin]

@t. I'm so excited about today's question Asker. Today's Asker is a food and drink writer whose books include the Seducers Cookbook and the man who ate Toronto. His new book acquired the lives and recipes of eight culinary ambassadors, which was also written by my mom and my brother. They all co wrote it, is available now wherever you get your books. He's also a puppet maker and a puppeteer, and he happens to be my father. James Chatto is asking today's question.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah,

[Fortune Feimster]

James.

[James Chatto]

Hello, handsome. This is Mei's dad, and I have a question for you. And this really is me talking, not Pongo. My question is, have you ever had a meaningful conversation with something that is not actually alive in its own right? That's my question.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's my question.

[Tig Notaro]

I just want to say we have very different fathers.

[May Martin]

Same, same.

[Fortune Feimster]

My dad would be like, wait, what am I supposed to do?

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, you're my daughter.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're my daughter. You're my daughter. I love you. What am. Wait, what is this?

[May Martin]

Okay, he's pretty amazing.

[Fortune Feimster]

I have a podcast.

[May Martin]

I'm glad that you got to see the kind of puppet workshop that he's turned his. His room into this, like, pretty magical Geppetto world. Pongo is a character he created who's an explorer monkey who is, like, discovering new species in the jungle. Like a half rabbit, half lizard, I think he found, but, yeah, magical.

[Fortune Feimster]

His last name is Chatto.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Weirdly, we all have different last names in my family.

[Fortune Feimster]

Really?

[May Martin]

Yeah. My mom was, like, a real feminist, gave me her last name. So I'm May Martin. So she's Mae.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm sorry, you're Mae Martin?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't think I realized that was your mom's last name.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And then my brother, like, my. My dad's actual last name was Sproul, but he changed it to Chatto because it's more like that was what his dad went by Chatto, and my brother was like, no, my official last name is Sproul. I'm gonna be Sproul. So that. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

So everyone's name, last name. I've never heard of that.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, but wait, you and your mom do, though?

[May Martin]

We have the same name. Yeah, me and my mom.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, yeah. Well, never mind. I take it back.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, well, May did mislead us saying everyone in my family has a different last name. And then I sniffed out that. That's actually not true.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's true.

[Tig Notaro]

Half of you have the exact same last name.

[May Martin]

You're right. Half of us have the same name. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I think I got confused because there's three out of four of us have a different name to.

[Tig Notaro]

Anyway, the math still adds up. It still adds up to half of you.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is also true.

[Tig Notaro]

It's weird.

[Fortune Feimster]

Math feels complicated, but it's not.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, listen, I'm not normally good at math, but I crunch these numbers and I French crunch. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Found a glitch.

[Fortune Feimster]

So your dad wrote a. Your family wrote a book, and it's about food.

[May Martin]

This book just came out, so. Yeah, the past few years, they've been working on it. They just got really interested in the transmission of recipes across cultures, but they've tracked down, like, eight specific stories where you can trace a recipe to, like, one person, like one colorful character who, like, popularized, I don't know, like, a certain type of dessert in, you know, Korea. But, yeah, and so it's a really. If you're. If you're a foodie, if you're a history buff, it's very, very juicy. And, yeah, all three of them wrote it. It's so amazing.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, juicy. I like your choice of words there. Yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Very juicy food book. Now, did they ask you at any point to contribute?

[May Martin]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. By promoting it on the podcast.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that's true. That's my role.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Yeah, they.

[May Martin]

I'm. I'm not as. They're really academic and they're good at doing research and. Yeah. And my dad's a food writer, so. Yeah. But I did help. I took some of the photos in the book that appear, and then they would make the recipes in the kitchen, and I would try them. Like, there's the Queen Mother's flowerless chocolate cake and different things. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay. Any vegan?

[May Martin]

Probably not. Well, yeah, there's a drink in there. I think there's a drink in there. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, that will fill me up.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, I know this isn't in the book. But kudos to whoever thought about putting espresso on top of ice cream.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Fortune Feimster]

I had that today, and it's delicious.

[Tig Notaro]

Is that the first time you've had it?

[Fortune Feimster]

No, it's one of my favorite desserts.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's called an afogato.

[May Martin]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[Tig Notaro]

I forgot about how we talked about that.

[May Martin]

You forgot about it?

[Fortune Feimster]

I invented that. But kudos to them cooters.

[Tig Notaro]

To them cooters.

[Fortune Feimster]

To them cooters.

[May Martin]

To that, I give this. So my cooters. So my dad's question is, have you ever had a meaningful conversation with an inanimate object? Which, by the way, growing up, that was the world that he created. Like, yeah, talking. The eggs. He would make me eggs in the morning, and as he lowered them into the boiling water, he'd make them scream and beg for their lives. He'd draw faces on them. Our car was definitely alive. My stuffed animals.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

So this is prevalent for him.

[May Martin]

Well, right before the podcast, I asked Alexa the device. I said, what's. What's it called when people talk to inanimate objects? And Alexa said, it's a sign of intelligence and not weird. And she used those words and not weird.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was like, stop judging.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

What's your problem, May. Martin.

[Fortune Feimster]

So have you. Have you taken into your dad's. That's not the right word. Have you followed your dad's footsteps and doing this as well?

[May Martin]

I definitely feel things like deep empathy for, like, objects I'm throwing out. I'll suddenly feel like they're gonna be alone in the garbage and set. Like, I. Yeah. Or like a lamb. Yeah. And I talked to the car, I guess. Yeah. I don't. I don't know that I've. I talked to myself. Like, I was playing foosball the other day.

[Fortune Feimster]

You are alive, though.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I'm alive. I'm alive.

[Fortune Feimster]

This house is on a daisy hill.

[May Martin]

Oh, you know what I do? If I'm with a kid and they bump their knee or they. Or they trip over something, I'll. If they're crying and hysterical, I'll say, excuse me, I need to have a word with that. That object. And I'll go. And so that they can hear, I'll be like, how dare you to. The stool or whatever they hit themselves on. And it's good. It'll, like, distract them.

[Tig Notaro]

That's what I used to do as well. I love doing something.

[May Martin]

I mean, people fully get married to inanimate objects. There's. Okay. I have a list of a couple of people who married objects. Maybe you could. Maybe some of these will tickle your fans.

[Tig Notaro]

Are they from the comedy community?

[May Martin]

Oh my God. Imagine. Okay, Erica Eiffel. Can you guess who she's married to?

[Tig Notaro]

Eiffel Tower.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tower.

[May Martin]

The Eiffel Tower. And she took the name. She married the eiffel Tower in 2007 and she previously had a relationship with Tower. Oh yeah, you're right.

[Tig Notaro]

And what is her first name?

[May Martin]

Erica.

[Tig Notaro]

Erica.

[Fortune Feimster]

Obviously, Erica.

[May Martin]

Erica Tower is really good.

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

We've got Carol Santa Fe married the Santa Fe train station in 2015, which she considers a female entity named Daedra.

[Tig Notaro]

Linda Wish them all the happiness.

[Fortune Feimster]

I wonder if they're paying taxes.

[May Martin]

Linda Duck married a Ferris wheel that she named Bruce in 2012 after dating him for 30 years.

[Tig Notaro]

What is she did? Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Talk about being afraid of commitment.

[Tig Notaro]

So was she on a Ferris wheel by herself, giggling as she went around like, you know those for those dates where people are on a Ferris wheel

[Fortune Feimster]

and they're like, yeah, yeah. That reminds me, I took my. My mom's like crazy afraid of heights and I took her on the Santa Monica Ferris wheel and she was like, I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna like this. I don't like heights. I'm like, oh, this is like nothing. And she's like, okay. And then we get on the Ferris wheel and as it starts to go up, she's like. And then it starts to go around and it comes back down and you know, there's a long line of people. And so as it's coming down, she's like. And then she sees everyone and she goes and smiles really big for like, 10 seconds as we pass everyone. And as it goes back up, then she goes back into. And this went on for every time she would do this.

[Tig Notaro]

That is hilarious.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Tig Notaro]

And then that's discipline, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Just if. If Max or Finn is out of line, I go, guys.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's pretty. That would strike fear into my heart, actually, as a guess, if you said that to me.

[Tig Notaro]

It's also helpful because if things are, like, really bad and I go beyond. Hey, guys. Then they know there's, like, a real serious issue, you know? Yeah. Because I don't really go beyond. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

That seems like it would be effective for sure.

[Tig Notaro]

My cousin in Mississippi was like, are you kidding me? That's how. That's all you do, Guys.

[May Martin]

You should write a parenting book called.

[Fortune Feimster]

And it's.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, it's.

[May Martin]

It's really short.

[Tig Notaro]

Hey, guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

That works for anything in life, really. If anybody is doing something you're not into, you're just like, hey, yeah, you

[May Martin]

should go do that to the. The builders in your house. Hey, guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Hey, guys. All right, now,

[May Martin]

if you had to have a romantic relationship with an object in your house, is there anyone you've been flirting with, any chemistry with any of those?

[Fortune Feimster]

Probably my tub.

[May Martin]

Totally.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because we're already, you know, already tits out.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And it's holding me. I'm in water, so.

[May Martin]

Yeah. You feel held.

[Tig Notaro]

Hey, Fortune.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's big enough to fit me in. Keeps me. I think I would go. Tub. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Bed for me. Yeah. Just. Yeah. I'm love. I'm. I'm in love with my bed.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't have a lot of conversations with inanimate objects, really. I don't think that's my thing. But as I think about it, I mean, I have had that experience. The only thing I can think of is going to the cemetery. I'm. You know, in my mind, I'm talking to my grandmother. So my mind tells me this is a being, but I'm technically talking to a tombstone in the ground.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

Yeah. So, yeah, that counts a little, I guess. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. So I feel like in that case, I am just talking to the ground. Yes. Her body is in there, but, you know.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

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[Tig Notaro]

She's all ears.

[May Martin]

Mm.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I bet there's studies, though, where, like, even. Yeah. Even talking to a wall would be better than talking to no one, because you're. Yeah. You're speaking out loud. You're processing things in and out of

[Fortune Feimster]

your system, getting stuff out. Yeah. I mean, this is a being that's very much alive. But I talked to Big. When I'm with Biggie, I talk to him all the time. Sure.

[May Martin]

Very much alive in. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Even though his eyes aren't.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Which I just posted pictures of him a few weeks ago, and everyone says his eyes are full of life.

[May Martin]

Twinkling.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

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[Tig Notaro]

Well, I. I talked a lot to my monkey, Zip, when I was little. I mean, that aside from my cat, that was my best friend, my stuffed animal, Zip. He got an earload from me. Just processing life.

[May Martin]

I was thinking. I know how Max and Finn weren't that interested in Zip when you passed him on. If you ever feel that.

[Tig Notaro]

Not even just that into it. Just zero.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like, what's this? Raggedy ass.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Stuffed animal.

[May Martin]

I don't. Well, if you ever feel like you want him to be in a loving home where he'll get lots of like. I will. I'll. I'll take him.

[Tig Notaro]

You'll care for them?

[Fortune Feimster]

Really?

[May Martin]

I'll talk.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Nobody's talked to him in years.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, I think May might need to have a visit.

[May Martin]

He could meet my bear, Malcolm, and they could chat. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

He could come over and, like, spend a long weekend with you. You know, have a little slumber party with May and what's it. Malcolm.

[May Martin]

Malcolm. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And I. You know, this is kind of similar, but not. I remember, you know, when my mother and stepfather passed away, like, once they were no longer actually alive. I had. I had some. Some of those moments of, you know.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And I've. I've done the graveyard thing. Talking, Talking to. Talking to tombstones and.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I've talked to the tv.

[May Martin]

Oh, really?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, sure. You don't ever talk to the tv.

[Tig Notaro]

Go Team is what I usually.

[May Martin]

All right.

[Fortune Feimster]

What?

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, you watching the news?

[May Martin]

No, that's Golden Girls. I can't believe it. What?

[Sponsor/Announcer]

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[Fortune Feimster]

But, yeah, I think. I think you're your dad. Being a guy that has created a world of puppets, this definitely tracks for him.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, and tracks for who May is. I cannot even express enough. Like, watching that video and hearing his voice and. And just. It's like, you can't deny that that is your pops.

[May Martin]

I know we look the same. I think we have the same mannerism. I do also. I do have a lot of my mom's mannerisms as well. But, yeah, my. My dad always puts his finger on his mouth like this, and I noticed. I do that a lot, too. Yeah, but he. I mean, when he's cooking, there's a constant Stream of like. It's like movie. It's like Alec Guinness quotes or like Peter Sellers or Lord of the Rings. Like, his. His mind is a radio, and he. And sometimes just random things. And I think I get that a little. Like, I was playing foosball yesterday with Matt, and so clearly in my head, like, Matt scored a goal, and in my head, I heard, two can play at that game, Peter. And it was like someone else had said it.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was.

[May Martin]

But my dad will say it out loud. Whereas also, I'll keep it in.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[May Martin]

Should we hear his answer?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, yeah, please.

[James Chatto]

Obviously, I have had many meaningful conversations with inanimate. Well, semi inanimate creatures.

[Tig Notaro]

Was that your mother or you?

[May Martin]

That was me.

[Tig Notaro]

That was you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And so that was it. He just said, I have.

[May Martin]

I know he didn't go into detail, but I think it's because the implication is, like, constantly.

[Tig Notaro]

It was kind of similar to the vibe of. Have you ever thought of making a cookbook? Yeah.

[May Martin]

And then what was her answer?

[Fortune Feimster]

Cyndi Lauper.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

She's like, yes.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

Goodbye.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think the.

[May Martin]

The main thing that happened in that. That answer was Pongo got irritated that he was referred to as inanimate object. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Of course. That's gotta stink. Yeah, totally.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, luckily, no one listens to our show. Yes. What a treat.

[Fortune Feimster]

What a treat to see your dad. And I love his cute puppets. And his accent. I would do it. The accent, but, you know, you guys know how that goes.

[May Martin]

No, you're amazing at not well.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, not well.

[Tig Notaro]

Unless you do Australian.

[Fortune Feimster]

Australian. That's Scottish. Well, anyway, this was a wonderful episode.

[Tig Notaro]

Great to see you guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Rise of Blades.

[Tig Notaro]

We are trying to move some books for James, so everyone join in and treat yourself to this wonderful. So, such an interesting book to write, I must say. Yeah, they're high quality and they're. They're wonderful for your own bookshelf or your coffee tables.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Coffee table. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying you have to have it on a shelf.

[Fortune Feimster]

May.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm just.

[May Martin]

No, never.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Wherever you want to put the thing. Just get it. You're not gonna regret it. Get it.

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[May Martin]

Especially if you want, like, interesting trivia you can bring up in conversations that there's some very good stories.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

All kinds of facts.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Family fact.

[May Martin]

What do you guys have coming up? I. The only thing I have is June 10th. I'm at Largo back in LA doing a big fun show with friends. But yeah, what about you guys?

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, starting May 28th, I'm on my European tour. Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, London and Dublin. And then I'm back in the states in mid June in Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Omaha, Portland, Maine and Detroit.

[Tig Notaro]

I am also touring around. I'm hitting all these minor markets and sometimes you know what, I've been throwing an extra show in. I didn't think I was going to do that this tour but. But I have been having a grand old time and I'm going to be in Albany, New York, Peekskill, New York, Clayton, New York, Rochester, New York, Kalispell, Montana. It goes on and on. Go to tignotaro.com to get all of my show information. And yeah, I don't know what else to tell you.

[Fortune Feimster]

That sounds great.

[Tig Notaro]

I know what to tell you. Read, review and subscribe to Handsome. And also, don't forget we're on Hulu. We're also on YouTube. Subscribe there, share a favorite episode with a friend and help us build the community.

[Fortune Feimster]

And get your handsome merch. handsomepod.com we have tons of fun shirts and hats and all that good stuff. Oh yeah, and there's a lot of variety.

[May Martin]

They're really good summer stuff.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Nice sleeveless tops for summer, I think.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, sleeveless bottoms too. And until next time, keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Tig, Notaro, May, Martin and Fortune theme steer. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] follow us on social media ansomepod what a podcast.

[May Martin]

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[May Martin]

Northbrook, Illinois hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Fortune Feimster]

Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan and we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.

[Tig Notaro]

Each episode we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show.

[Fortune Feimster]

This is us. That's right.

[Tig Notaro]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Fortune Feimster]

Are we going to cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we going to laugh a lot. A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping.

[Tig Notaro]

Man.

[Fortune Feimster]

Listen to that. Was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.