Pretty Little Episode #100

Summary

Handsome Podcast Episode: Pretty Little Episode #100
Host: Headgum
Date: July 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In episode #100 of their "Pretty Little Episode" bonus series, comedians Fortune Feimster and Mae Martin (Tig Notaro was not present in this recording) mark the centenary of listener Q&A episodes. The duo celebrate their milestone by reminiscing about their favorite moments, discussing major before-and-after life events, and exploring personal "gay awakenings" with warmth, humor, and relatable candor. Listeners' questions spark discussions about transformative experiences, representation, and self-acceptance, all delivered in the signature playful "Handsome" style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Celebrating 100 "Pretty Little Episodes"

• Fortune introduces the episode by sharing their excitement about reaching 100 bonus Q&A episodes.

  • “We just realized, per Thomas, this is our hundredth pre little episode. Woohoo!” (00:56)

• Mae reflects on how many listener questions they must have answered so far.

  • "So that means probably like 300 people have had their questions answered." (01:08)

• Fortune expresses gratitude for listeners from around the globe.

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Home Decor Chat: Trinkets & Personal Touches

• Fortune gives a tour of her newly redecorated home office, listing treasured items:

  • Just for Laughs award, fan-made signs, Funko Pops, a crocheted “Hooter's owl.” (02:11–05:01)
  • "A fan gave me a sign that says y’all means all." (03:18)
  • “I do have my video game in here... I did just get my fireplace marbled. It's gorgeous.” (05:47–06:04)

• Mae jokes about bringing personality to Fortune’s home, ribbing her for letting the “gays in charge of interior design” make things too sterile.

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Recent Happenings: Movies & Mishaps

• Mae shares about seeing the new RuPaul movie and loving its silly, retro-comedy vibe.

  • “It reminded me... almost like Austin Powers type of comedy innuendo.” (06:54)
  • Fortune echoes: “It reminded me of Airplane, too.” (07:02)

• Mae tells a story about pretending to be engaged at dinner to get free champagne, paralleling Fortune’s college days of pretending it was her birthday for free desserts. (07:28–08:18)

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Question 1: Major "Before and After" Life Events

Listener Spencer asks: "What was a moment or event that you look back on and describe your life as ‘before or after’?"

Fortune’s Answer

• Pre and Post Divorce
  • “Currently, I have a, you know, pre marriage. Pre and post marriage life. I feel like, you know...” (10:38–11:06)
  • Moving to a new house, establishing new routines: “It’s an adjustment for sure... definitely a significant time in my life of pre and post.” (11:06–11:28)
• Coming Out
  • "Another distinct time for me would be pre coming out, post coming out... I felt like I could never fully be myself... when I came out, it was just like, as Oprah says, an aha moment." (14:38–15:25)

Mae’s Answer

• Seeing Ace Ventura
  • “The first thing that came to my mind was pre seeing Ace Ventura and post seeing Ace Ventura...It changed my life... It just set me on a path of, like, that being a real weirdo could be cool and funny.” (11:30–12:24)
• Top Surgery
  • “That was the biggest life changer, really.... It was like I had been like, shrink wrapped in latex or cellophane my whole life... someone had just zipped off the cellophane and I could—I was like, you know, I really... I didn't know until I had the surgery how much transformative it would be.” (13:24–13:53)
• Moving to LA and Dating Explosion
  • "It coincided right with me moving to LA too, so I went nuts. Dating around, tanning with my shirt..." (14:04–14:14)
  • Fortune teases: "You were dating up a storm. Oh, my lord. It was infamous." (14:22–14:28)

Listener Response: Spencer’s Shaved Head Transformation

• “It wasn’t until one summer that I decided to do the big shave that I realized just how much it was affecting my life. I love how I look and feel now.… every single person should shave their head at least once in their life just to try it. Maybe Thomas can add it to the list for you guys.” (15:33–16:03)

Hosts Respond

• Handsome Head Shave?
  • Fortune: “Oh, I can’t do that. My face is too fat.”
  • Mae: “I think you’d look incredible.”
  • Fortune suggests Mae could pull it off, joking about shaving her head for a role. (16:10–16:49)

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Question 2: Celebrity "Gay Awakenings"

Listener Maddie asks: “Who was your celebrity gay awakening, or even gay awakening growing up?”

Mae’s Answer

• Real-Life Crush: Camp Counselor

  • “This is so richly part of my lore as Katie Anderson, my camp counselor. Katie... following her around, just a puppy.” (17:35–17:52)
  • Admits calling Katie at college from a payphone as a kid: “Calling her at her college dorm from a payphone outside my middle school...” (17:58–18:00)

• Pop Culture Impact: Bette Midler & Hocus Pocus

  • “My first ever sex dream was... the three witches. I was naked and they ate my butt like a meatloaf. They sliced it into... in the dream.” (18:33–18:49)
  • Both hosts erupt into laughter at the unusual detail.

• Celebrity Crushes

  • Admits many crushes turned out to be LGBTQ+ themselves: “I had an antenna, you know?” (26:28–26:37)
  • Parvati from Survivor was a big early crush and “gay awakening,” as well as a gay icon for many gay men. (23:16–23:55)

Fortune’s Answer

• Celebrity Crush: Sandra Bullock
  • “My celebrity gay awakening...Sandra Bullock and While You Were Sleeping. I was like, what is this?...loving the girl next door type vibe.” (19:16–19:42)
• TV Representation: The L Word
  • “I would say the L Word show was a part of my gay awakening. Just like, seeing these characters, being like, community.” (19:43–20:03)
  • “There was not one out gay person when I was growing up [in North Carolina].” (20:26)
  • Notes the importance of seeing “ridiculously attractive women having the hottest makeouts and sex” on TV, and its broad impact on viewers—including her straight friends: “It did a lot for a lot of people.” (21:35–21:55)
• Inside Scoop: Appearing on The L Word Reboot
  • Fortune shares her excitement on guest starring and what it meant to her: “I was supposed to have this whole arc as Alice’s cousin... and it all went away... But… I just got to, like, hang out with my friends, you know, Alicia and Kate, and just, like, have a couple fun days…” (21:57–22:41)

Listener Maddie’s Awakening

• “For myself, it was definitely Michelle Rodriguez from the Fast and Furious movies. Definitely one of those that caused that flutter and went, oh, maybe there’s something more here that I need to explore.” (26:10–26:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On major life shifts:

  • “All along, my whole life, something was missing and I didn’t know what it was... when I came out... it was just like, as Oprah says, an aha moment. The weight of the world felt lifted off my shoulders.” — Fortune (14:53–15:25)

• On queer joy:

  • “That being a real weirdo could be cool and funny.” — Mae, about Ace Ventura’s impact (12:27)

• On top surgery:

  • “I felt it was like I had been shrink wrapped in latex or cellophane my whole life... someone had just zipped off the cellophane...” — Mae (13:32–13:53)

• On visibility and representation:

  • “It really was like... seeing those pretty ladies kiss... That was like, I mean... it was an awakening.” — Fortune, about The L Word (21:34–21:55)

• On childhood crushes:

  • “My first ever sex dream was... the three witches. I was naked and they ate my butt like a meatloaf.” — Mae (18:33–18:49)

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Highlighted Segments (Timestamps)

• Celebrating 100 Episodes & Listener Questions: 00:46–01:14
• Home Decor and Trinkets: 02:11–06:07
• RuPaul Movie & Champagne Mishap: 06:39–08:18
• Life’s Big "Before and After" Moments: 10:25–16:03
• Major Life Shifts: Top Surgery, Coming Out: 13:24–15:25
• Listener Story: Shaved Head = Confidence: 15:33–16:03
• Celebrity/Real-Life Gay Awakenings: 17:09–26:24
• The L Word Theme Song Sing-Along: 25:10–26:02

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Episode Tone

Conversational, playful, and heartfelt, Fortune and Mae blend vulnerability and irreverence as they openly discuss major life changes, queer joy, awkward moments, and cultural idols—always with quick wit and affectionate teasing.

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Closing Remarks & Show Info

• Mae and Fortune encourage more listener questions and feedback at speakpipe.com/handsomepod, and announce that their new show "The Hawk" is now on Netflix as of July 16. (26:49–27:14)
• Sign-off: “Keep it Pretty Handsome!”

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Summary prepared for those looking for the heart, laughs, and wisdom of "Handsome"’s special 100th Q&A without sitting through every minute.

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[Fortune Feimster]

Pretty Little Episode welcome to the Handsome pods Pretty Little Episode. I am Fortune Feemster.

[May Martin]

I am May Martin and you guys,

[Fortune Feimster]

we just realized, per Thomas, this is our hundredth pre little episode. Woohoo. I mean we've had a lot more of our regular episodes, but 100 bonus episodes.

[May Martin]

Pretty cool. So that means probably like 300 people have had their questions answered.

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That's pretty cool.

[Fortune Feimster]

Something like that.

[May Martin]

That's very cool.

[Fortune Feimster]

Really cool. I love getting questions from people that. From all over the world, really.

[May Martin]

I just, I wish conversation in general works like that. People come with their prepared questions.

[Fortune Feimster]

You know, I love it when people ask me questions.

[Maddie]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because I am better at answering questions than I am at offering information.

[May Martin]

Oh yeah, that's true about you, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like you come into a room and go, oh, all this is, is going on with me. And like I was thinking about this. Yeah, you got to go, Fortune, what's been up with you?

[Fortune Feimster]

And I was like, oh, it's funny you should ask. Let me think. And then I think it's my birthday today. And I, oh, my birthday is coming up.

[May Martin]

Oh boy. Oh, I'm going to be in a cake. You're going to answer your door and there's going to be a big old cake and I'm going to jump out.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's my dream.

[May Martin]

Me and a cake.

[Fortune Feimster]

You and a cake.

[May Martin]

I know. Who's. So who's behind you on your little shelf there? I'm seeing some pretty cute.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know. Thank you for noticing me. I, I got tired of having a very boring area behind me. Well, I just got my office painted. So this is the new color. Kind of grayish, a light grayish brown.

[May Martin]

You went from. You went from white to light gray.

[Fortune Feimster]

I went to cream. I went from cream cream to a light gray. Just to give it a little warmth.

[May Martin]

Right. A nice little cloudy gray.

[Fortune Feimster]

It looks beautiful when you see it in person. It doesn't look as brown, but it's not super gray. I Don't know what this color is. A gay picked it out and I trust their opinion. So I finally could get my little trinkets out and I've got our hahaha

[May Martin]

award from Just for Laughs.

[Fortune Feimster]

For Just for Laughs. I have this little thing of us my social media gals gave to me.

[May Martin]

A little framed photo of the boys.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's a must 3. You can only really see this if you're watching the video. I apologize. A fan gave me a. A sign that says y' all means all.

[May Martin]

Oh yeah, I love that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Pretty good. I have the handsome sign that a fan would worked for me. I have our signal award that the handsome pod won.

[May Martin]

God, what a podcast.

[Fortune Feimster]

What a podcast we had. We won a glad award. I'm. I'm checking in to see if I get one of those puppies to put up out here. I've got my fortune. Marie CRO. Not crocheted. What is it called?

[May Martin]

Needlepoint.

[Fortune Feimster]

Needlepoint, yeah. Then I have my. Someone. This is crochet, right? Can you see it? The owl? It's a hooter's owl. Oh, it's a hooter owl fan crochet. I want to say I don't know my craft.

[May Martin]

Little owl boobs under there. Do owls have boobs?

[Fortune Feimster]

There's no boobs, actually. It's just an owl.

[May Martin]

Birds don't breastfeed, do they?

[Fortune Feimster]

But maybe these are the. Maybe the eyes are supposed to be the boobs.

[May Martin]

Oh, they very much are creative.

[Fortune Feimster]

They took creative license.

[May Martin]

Yeah, those are big boo buys.

[Fortune Feimster]

Another fan gave me an alf.

[May Martin]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

From our infamous ALF episode. Oh my God. That was early days.

[May Martin]

Very early.

[Fortune Feimster]

And where you said something and I said, then why did I go dressed as alf? Apparently caused a ripple of happiness with people. And then I have a couple little nibbles maple stick. I have the funko pop and I have, you know, funko pops.

[May Martin]

Oh, the little head guys. Yeah, the little bobbly head guys. Yeah. I love that. This is a sort of very handsome pod. Centric.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, I feel like the. The gays in charge of my interior design are gonna have a problem.

[May Martin]

They're gonna be like.

[Fortune Feimster]

They're gonna be like, yeah, I don't know.

[May Martin]

Well, it's nice to see. It looks very warm and cozy in there.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, you know, it's. I feel like I've got to have a little personality in my house when you have three gay men in charge of your designs. Yeah, it's very sterile, clean, mid century, like beautiful. But I'm like, I need a little I still. I need a little pop of something.

[May Martin]

I'd be a lot if I went over to your house and there was nothing. I'd be. I think you're a serial killer.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, yeah, no, I. Well, I do have my video game in here, so. But I did just get my. This one of my home improvement show. I did just get my fireplace marbled. It's gorgeous.

[May Martin]

Covered in marble.

[Fortune Feimster]

Covered in marble.

[May Martin]

Wow. That's very, like, ancient Roman. Sexy.

[Fortune Feimster]

Cool.

[May Martin]

I really want you to have, like, a fake, of course, but, like a polar bear rug.

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[May Martin]

You can recline on in front of your marbled. Your marbled thing.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, at some point, we'll have to go to each other's places to see our styles.

[May Martin]

Don't tease me.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm going home. I told you, I'm going to do your show tomorrow night. You asked. Are you coming? Yeah, I texted you.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

Didn't see it yet.

[May Martin]

Oh, amazing. Oh, great. Okay, that'll be great.

[Fortune Feimster]

So what's going on with you? Enough about me and my trinkets.

[May Martin]

My trinkets are also thriving. I got a little metal mouse here. What's going on with me? Last night I went to see the screening of the RuPaul movie.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, yeah, I saw it. It's funny.

[May Martin]

I loved it. It reminded me. Yes. Like, almost like Austin Powers type of comedy innuendo.

[Fortune Feimster]

It reminded me of Airplane, too.

[May Martin]

Very airplane. Yeah, I loved it. I was really in the mood for that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. It comes out or it's out now, per this, and I think people should go see it. It's really funny. We got to support it because Stop that train, Right?

[May Martin]

Yeah. It's just insane that there haven more movies where drag queens are the stars. They're funnier than anyone.

[Fortune Feimster]

They're really funny, really entertaining.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And it's just deliver a punchline.

[May Martin]

Hell, yeah. So joyful. So, so good. So I did that. Then I went for dinner with Parvati and I said. I told the waiter. They were like, are you celebrating anything? And I said, yeah, we just got engaged as a joke. And then he was like, oh, my God. How did it happen? Like, what was the story? And then I was like, oh. So I said, we were in. It was just in the. And he was like, in the car,

[Fortune Feimster]

and he's like, disappointed, and you're sort of panicking.

[May Martin]

And then they sent free champagne. And then another waiter came over and was like, I heard we're celebrating. And I was like, oh, no. Why did I do this? We're not engaged, but we did get some free champagne.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay. There you go. Yeah, that's. So that's how I used to do in college when we would go to a chain restaurant. I would tell them it was my birthday so I could get a free dessert.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's the best. I miss the days where you could tell the pilot it was your birthday and then go sit on his lap.

[Fortune Feimster]

That was a thing.

[May Martin]

I swear that was a thing.

[Fortune Feimster]

I never settled a pilot's lap.

[May Martin]

You're missing out.

[Fortune Feimster]

I have had a couple pilots in current times ask me to come into the cockpit because they like my comedy. And I've been like. And one. And I'm just like, hey,

[May Martin]

you've gone in.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I'm like, in the cockpit, like, chatting with them. Not during the. During the flight, like boarding and stuff. Or. Or when you're exiting.

[May Martin]

God, you must they really trust you. I mean, you have a very trustworthy, open face, like. Yeah, yeah. They're not worried you're going to pull anything crazy.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm not going to pull anything. I just want to get where we need to go safely. Let's do it.

[May Martin]

Guys, you remember D.B. cooper? That whole urban myth?

[Fortune Feimster]

No. What's this.

[May Martin]

This guy. I think it was like the 70s or something. 60s. This guy robbed a plane. He said he had a bomb on him or something, and he robbed a plane and then he jumped out of the plane, parachuted with millions of dollars, and they never found him. And so people are like, did he survive? Did he take.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wait, is that the cocaine bear story?

[May Martin]

No.

[Fortune Feimster]

Is that the same thing?

[May Martin]

That's someone else, I think.

[Fortune Feimster]

And wait, what is this guy's name? I'm going to look it up later.

[May Martin]

DB Cooper.

[Fortune Feimster]

1. Okay, I'm gonna look it up. Well, should we get some questions?

[May Martin]

Yes, please. It's our centennial century anniversary.

[Maddie]

Nice.

[May Martin]

Wait, can I guess the name of the person? Oh, okay. I heard it was a guy.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I think.

[May Martin]

Not to presume, but I'm gonna guess the name of the listener. If I get this right. How crazy would that be? I think it's crazy, Ben.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay, I'm gonna guess as well. And I'm gonna guess David.

[May Martin]

Okay.

[Spencer]

Hello, handsomes. This is Spencer from New Jersey. My question for you is, what was a moment or event that you look back on and describe your life as before or after? Blank.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, whoa. Okay. Oh, wow. I mean, I can answer that pretty easily. I mean, I would say currently I have a, you know, pre marriage. Pre. Pre and post marriage life. I feel like, you know.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Or like pre divorce. Post Divorce.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's more accurate. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I mean, that's a major life path shift. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. So it's like, you know, even though, like, you know, my job's the same, friends are the same, it's like new house, new routines, new things, new life, new, you know, it's, it's an adjustment for sure.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

But it's a, definitely a significant time in my life of pre and post.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That's mega.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I, I, the first thing that came to my mind was pre seeing Ace Ventura and post seeing Ace Ventura because. Okay, I don't even know what year did it come out, what I would have been, I bet.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm gonna guess. Yeah.

[May Martin]

92, 94. So, yeah, I was seven. Yeah, really good. I was seven. And I, I, it changed my life. Like, I, it, it came out in, in North America and then I had seen it and I moved to England and it hadn't come out yet in England. And so I would do all the lines and sort of pretend. I, I came up with that character, like, at school and stuff.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was like, you hold your butt cheeks and go, can I ask you a question?

[May Martin]

1 million percent I did. And I. Of like a lot of. Alrighty, then. A lot of us.

[Fortune Feimster]

Give it to us.

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[May Martin]

all righty then. There you go. I did a lot of, yeah, like all of those lines, so that, that was huge. And it just set me on a path of like, that being a real weirdo could be cool and funny.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Doesn't hold up when you rewatch it. Very tricky.

[Fortune Feimster]

I haven't watched it in years.

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[May Martin]

when I play a summertime show.

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That's a problem.

[Fortune Feimster]

Eh.

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I'm so far north, the sun doesn't set until midnight.

[May Martin]

So I guess I'll just close the

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[May Martin]

Also, I guess I'm gonna say top surgery. That changed. That was the biggest life changer, really.

[Fortune Feimster]

You felt like a different, Like a whole different person.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. Or like more like myself. Like, I felt it was like I had been like, shrink wrapped in latex or cellophane my whole life. Like, I, and not realizing that everybody didn't feel this. Like, and then it was like someone had just zipped off the cellophane and I could. I was like, you know, I really. I didn't know until I. Until I had the surgery how. How much better transformative it would be. Yeah, big time. And it coincided right, with me moving to LA to. So I went nuts. Dating around, tanning with my shirt.

[Fortune Feimster]

I remember when you first moved to

[May Martin]

la, I almost burned all my bridges in this industry very quickly by really dating up a storm.

[Fortune Feimster]

You were dating of a storm. Oh, my Lord.

[May Martin]

I really.

[Fortune Feimster]

It was infamous.

[May Martin]

Oh, God.

[Fortune Feimster]

Was it? I mean, the word got around for sure. Oh, my God. Oh, no. But, you know, you had your fun.

[May Martin]

I really did. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

In that sort of vein, I would say another distinct time for me would be pre coming out, post coming out. I was definitely, like, that was this huge transformation as well, where I finally felt like myself. Like.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

All along, my whole life, something was missing and I didn't know what it was. And it just felt like I could never. Like, I was happy, but I could never fully be myself because there was just some thing that was like, what is this thing I'm searching for? And when I came out, it was just like, as Oprah says, an aha moment. Was like the weight of the world felt lifted off my shoulders. And I feel like I was so much lighter after that.

[May Martin]

It's that cellophane thing, the shrink, you know. Yeah. Should we hear what Spencer has to say?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

For me, it's before or after I decided to start shaving my head. I struggled a lot with my confidence and self image ever since I was a kid. And I had started balding in my early 20s during college. It wasn't until one summer that I decided to do the big shave that I realized just how much it was affecting my life. I love how I look and feel now. And I'm convinced that every single person should shave their head at least once in their life just to try it. Maybe Thomas can add it to the list for you guys.

[Fortune Feimster]

I love it.

[Spencer]

Can't wait to hear your answers.

[Fortune Feimster]

A nice shaved head.

[May Martin]

A group head shave.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, I can't do that. My face is too fat.

[May Martin]

I think you'd look incredible.

[Fortune Feimster]

Not happening.

[May Martin]

What would I do? Because I touch my hair so much, I would just. I don't know what I'm. Oh. But I know that I. I know it would be good for me psychologically to have to.

[Fortune Feimster]

You could rock it for sure. You, you and you and Tig can rock short hair. You shall have those thin, chiseled Faces.

[May Martin]

People have said to me that I should shave my head like Eminem and bleach it yellow, you know, or whatever. Blonde and shave short. But I don't know, man, it's.

[Fortune Feimster]

I could see you maybe doing it for a role one day.

[May Martin]

Really temporarily imagine you. You thought that was going to be your big Oscar thing, and then it just bought the movie.

[Fortune Feimster]

No one saw you suffer. Like one of those people that, like, had to, like, lose 60 pounds and gain 40s. Like.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that must happen all the time actually, for actors that are like. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear another one.

[Maddie]

Hey, handsomes and Happy Pride. It's Maddie coming at you from Niagara, Ontario. I actually was just. Pride event at a local cafe last night, and a conversation that came up there was your celebrity gay awakening, or even gay awakening growing up, whether that was someone you knew. So curious about you guys, who that was, whether a celebrity or not.

[May Martin]

Oh, I mean, this. This is so richly part of my. My lore as Katie Anderson, my camp counselor. Katie.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's right.

[May Martin]

Who I just must have been so annoying to just follow. Following her around, like.

[Fortune Feimster]

Just a puppy, though.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And then even when camp ended, like, calling her at her college dorm from a payphone outside my middle school, like,

[Fortune Feimster]

I didn't know that.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. I. Yeah. But I didn't really.

[Fortune Feimster]

Can you imagine me and the college student getting this phone call? You're like, hello? Yeah.

[May Martin]

Being like, it's this kid. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh.

[Fortune Feimster]

What. What did she say when you called?

[May Martin]

I think I was like, oh, my life's really messed up. You know, I hate my parents. Everything's like. I think I was drama. High drama. And she was probably like, okay, well, she's all gonna be okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're good. You got this. Good luck.

[May Martin]

And. And then Bette Midler and Hocus Pocus and. And my first ever sex dream was not right. Yeah. Sex didn't happen. But the three witches. I was naked and they ate my butt like a meatloaf. They sliced it into. In the dream. I remember it so.

[Fortune Feimster]

I remember the. I remember you talking about this dream, but I don't. Don't know how I forgot about the butt part.

[May Martin]

Oh, maybe I didn't say that.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't think you. Am I wrong? Thomas may say that.

[May Martin]

I think may did say that.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, maybe I just maybe blocked that out of my memory.

[May Martin]

They were cutting it into slices. I didn't. Yeah. And I just was like, I gotta have that dream again. I loved that dream.

[Fortune Feimster]

You're Like, I need this to happen.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

What about you? That is so funny. I mean, I've talked about it before, my celebrity gay awakening, but that didn't. It still didn't make me realize I was gay. But, you know, with Sandra Bullock.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And while you were sleeping, I was like, what is this? Yeah. And I just. I. I think that probably awoken the. At the time, loving the, like, girl next door type vibe.

[May Martin]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

So even though it didn't make me come out, it definitely was like, oh. But my. I. I mean, I would say, you know, the L Word show was a part of my gay awakening. Just like, seeing these characters being, like, community. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Was a big part of, like, oh, there's like, a community out there. Like, there's just, like, women holding hands and getting coffee and going to dinner and. That sounds so naive now, but it really was like. Yeah. I mean, I'm from a small town in North Carolina. There was not one out gay person when I was growing up.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That's wild.

[Fortune Feimster]

So I just did not see that. Yeah.

[May Martin]

And then it becomes that, you think it becomes this, like, mysterious lifestyle. And then when you can actually see it on TV and be like, oh, they're just literally, like, normalized having relationships. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

But I will say, just like, seeing those pretty ladies kiss. Oh, my God. That was like. I mean, and I have so many straight lady friends that were very turned on by that show as well. I think it did a lot for a lot of people.

[May Martin]

It did a lot. Yeah. What was the theme song? It was like, come and go. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Betty. I think. Or no. Right.

[May Martin]

I don't remember, but fighting.

[Fortune Feimster]

Fucking.

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[Fortune Feimster]

It's like a bunch of words.

[Maddie]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Fighting, Fucking. Clapping. Having coffee. Holding hands. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

But, man, I just. Yeah. To, like, not ever, because I didn't. Again, this is like, pre, like, you know, pornhub or whatever. Like, I wasn't looking at naked ladies or anyone kissing.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

It was so foreign to me, all this stuff. And like, all of a sudden, these, like, ridiculously attractive women are having, like, the hottest makeouts and sex, and you're just like, what is happening? It was. It was an awakening.

[May Martin]

Were you ever. Were you on the reboot or.

[Fortune Feimster]

No, I was on the reboot.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That must have been crazy. Full circle.

[Fortune Feimster]

It was. But I think, you know, they thought they were going to do more with me than they end up being able to do because they had so many characters. Because you had the whole, like, original cast. Everybody wanted to, like. Like, see what was up. And then all These new characters. And so every, like, all my stuff was cut. I was basically. I was. And I was supposed to have this whole arc as, like, Alice's cousin that's come out to LA and I'm helping her, and it all, like, went away. And I was like, it's. That's fine.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

So basically, I just got to, like, hang out with my friends, you know, Alicia and Kate, and just, like, have a couple fun days on set. Like, sort of being a fan of the franchise.

[May Martin]

That's so cool. That would be, like, if I got on Buffy or something.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like, you're just, like. You feel like you're there more as, like, just. I'm a fan of this. This situation. This is cool to, like, sit here and see how the sausage is made.

[May Martin]

It's cool to think maybe we'll be someone's gay awakening. Ah, maybe people.

[Maddie]

Wow.

[Fortune Feimster]

That would be pretty cool.

[May Martin]

I bet it happens.

[Fortune Feimster]

You might be more of their gay awakening.

[May Martin]

No, I don't think so.

[Fortune Feimster]

I think this. This old gal.

[May Martin]

No way, man. No way. I think. I think that's cool. That's such a.

[Fortune Feimster]

Me talking about cooters is gonna get somebody real hot and bothered.

[May Martin]

Seriously. I think, also, honestly, Parvati was one of my, like, early. I mean, I. I was young when I first started. Saw her on Survivor, and I. Yeah. Was like, I would defend her, and, like, if people were like, she's a villain on that show, I would defend her in a way that was so heated, like.

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[May Martin]

But actually, what's interesting is she gets a lot of gay men telling her that she was their gay awakening because they were like. I don't know. They were like her kind of powerful femininity. They were like, in. I don't know. A lot of gay guys are, like, interesting. Yeah. You made.

[Fortune Feimster]

What shows are you. Are you. Who's older?

[May Martin]

She's only five years older than me.

[Maddie]

Okay.

[May Martin]

I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or less.

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Four years.

[May Martin]

Four years older than me.

[Fortune Feimster]

Okay.

[May Martin]

Yeah. So. But she was young on that. She was 23 on when she first went on that show. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Do they still. Do they have Survivor online, like, where I could go? I'm very curious about just her season. I don't want to watch all.

[May Martin]

Don't get me started. You got to start.

[Fortune Feimster]

I could go somewhere and watch her season.

[May Martin]

Well, it's a really strange and rare thing to be able to watch someone at different points in their life as they grow.

[Fortune Feimster]

Two seasons, right?

[May Martin]

Four times. Four, Five, including Australia, I think. But you gotta. You gotta start.

[Fortune Feimster]

I Don't want to watch the Australia one.

[May Martin]

Start with season 16. Start with season 16.

[Fortune Feimster]

16. Okay.

[May Martin]

Masterful.

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm gonna check it out.

[May Martin]

That's a great season because it's fans versus favorite.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did she win?

[May Martin]

I don't want to spoil it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, okay. Okay. Don't spoil it. I'm gonna go along this journey and see what happens.

[May Martin]

Thomas, do we have the lyrics to the theme song from the L Word from I want to know what the list of things that those ladies are doing was.

[Fortune Feimster]

What are they doing? Are you gonna sing it for us?

[May Martin]

Yeah, we can sing it. Oh, here we go. Okay, let's sing it together. Oh, my God. This is the first. Okay. One, two, three.

[Fortune Feimster]

Talking, laughing. It goes fast, though.

[May Martin]

Yeah, you do.

[Fortune Feimster]

Talking, laughing, loving, breathing, fighting, fucking, crying, drinking, riding, winning, Lo. Cheating, kissing, thinking, dreaming, and I don't know how else.

[May Martin]

That's great. That was.

[Fortune Feimster]

It goes. But, like, does it fluctuate that we

[May Martin]

live or something like that?

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't know.

[May Martin]

Talking, laughing, loving, breathing. I'm glad they're breathing. Fighting, crying, drinking. Okay. Riding.

[Fortune Feimster]

Whoa.

[May Martin]

Winning, losing, cheating, kissing, thinking, and dreaming. I'm glad.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's very lesbian.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it does. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Well, did our friend give a answer?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Let's hear her. Her gay awakening.

[Maddie]

For myself, it was definitely Michelle Rodriguez from the Fast and Furious movies. Definitely one of those that caused that flutter and went, oh, maybe there's something more here that I need to explore. All right.

[Fortune Feimster]

Love it.

[Maddie]

Can't wait to hear your answers.

[Fortune Feimster]

Great one. There you go.

[May Martin]

I also find a lot of the people that I. The celebrities I was drawn to, I later found out were bi or like, I think I had an antenna, you know?

[Fortune Feimster]

Interesting. Yeah. Well, we did a. Another fun set of questions.

[May Martin]

Keep submitting your questions, please, and. And advice and feedback. Whatever you want to say to us, we want to hear it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Go to speakpipe.com handsomepod and very exciting news.

[Fortune Feimster]

The Hawk, which I'm in and so is May, just started streaming on Netflix July 16th. So yesterday. Yeah, so go watch it because it's a real, real fun and funny show, and let us know what you think.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I think people are gonna love it.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's a good one.

[May Martin]

And I guess until next time, keep it Pretty Handsome. Pretty Handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, May Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Willette. Email [e-mail] and please follow us on social media at. Handsome Pod.

[Fortune Feimster]

What a podcast.

[May Martin]

What a podcast that was a hit gum podcast.

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