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Fortune Feimster
This is a Headgum podcast. This is a Headgum podcast.
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Fortune Feimster
Friends on the Handsome Pod. Chatting with friends on the Handsome Pod. Pretty little episode.
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Tig Notaro
It surprised me again.
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Fortune Feimster
Welcome to our pretty little episode. I'm your host for today, Fortune Feamster.
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Tig Notaro
I'm also your host for today, Tig Notaro.
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Fortune Feimster
And we're also your hoes for the day.
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Commercial Voiceover
What?
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Tig Notaro
Fortune Marie, did you just call us hoes?
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, for the day.
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Tig Notaro
Oh, my gosh. That is. That is really dirty. Okay. That is some dirty talk. That's right. It's not going to be happening when I'm involved. Okay.
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Fortune Feimster
Like that. You like it when I talk like that, Fortune Marie?
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Tig Notaro
No, I don't. I would like to keep our relationship friendly and professional.
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Fortune Feimster
I apologize, my friend, but you do.
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Tig Notaro
Look very beautiful today. Thank you.
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Fortune Feimster
I have on my flannel.
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Tig Notaro
This is my lesbian outfit. I love a flannel.
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Fortune Feimster
Right.
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Tig Notaro
Thomas has one on, too. I don't know who to choose. So what is going on?
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Fortune Feimster
You know, life still.
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Tig Notaro
The aftermath of the fires going on.
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Fortune Feimster
We.
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Tig Notaro
I don't know if I told you, we have some people moving into our office.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
And we got a text again today seeing if there is more room or space anywhere. Yeah. A lot going on. Are you somebody that would be like, I'm done with all of the risks here in la. I'm getting out. Or are you like, I'm staying. This is my place.
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Fortune Feimster
I'm staying. It's my place. But I don't. I mean, I don't know how I would feel if I lived in that community. And your entire community's gone.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
I would be probably hesitant to rebuild.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
Being in that. In that area that is prone to fire, you hope that that's an outlier, that it's something that wouldn't happen again. But Malibu is right adjacent to Palisades and it's always being evacuated. So, yeah, that would be.
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Tig Notaro
Not gonna stop.
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Fortune Feimster
Start over there.
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Tig Notaro
But people will.
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Fortune Feimster
People certainly will because they love it so much. It's near the ocean. It's gorgeous. And they really have a. A beautiful community there.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah. I get texts every now and then from Stephanie of, like, the migration from LA to New York and all of that. Really? Oh, upstate New York, I think. Everywhere. Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, New York City, upstate New York. But all that really started in the pandemic as well.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
Wanting a little more space and whatever. Yeah. We have moments where we're like, yeah, maybe we'll head out. And then. Yeah, we have those moments. But also we have our kids who are so happy in their school. They love our house. They love, you know, their baseball and basketball leagues. And so we need to always be considering many different people.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
But I'm flexible. Like, if Stephanie was like, let's go, I'd be like, all right, let's go.
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Fortune Feimster
Really?
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Tig Notaro
Yeah. Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
I've never lived in the Northeast. I am not a cold weather gal.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
So that would be my hesitation.
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Tig Notaro
You like to show off your gams.
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Fortune Feimster
I know. I like to be in my mini skirts and letting these legs fly in the sunshine. I've just. I've lived in LA for 21 years, so it's just so what I'm used to now.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, same. I had no interest in moving to la and then my childhood friends moved there and then I. Cause we grew up together and moved everywhere. You know, they all went to college and I just followed them around smoking and then. And then they moved to LA and I came with them and I just thought, oh, I'll be here for six months and then I'll leave. Yeah. But then I started doing stand up and I got bolted to the ground and. And ended up loving it. And then I think when we had kids was when I started to see the city a little differently and started to think, oh, you know, it'd be nice if they had more space to play and could just get on their bikes and that whole thing. But then they started to have opinions of their own and were like, we like it here.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
And Stephanie's whole family, they're all in California and, you know, that's nice. Yeah. But, yeah, I was just curious if you.
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Fortune Feimster
I'm here for. For now. I don't know. We've mentioned other places, like during that time in the pandemic when everybody else did of, like, what about this place? Or this place? And then we'd visit that place for a few days and then we'd be like, no.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
So I don't know.
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Tig Notaro
It's also easy to think, oh, I'll just leave. And then you think, are the restaurants gonna be as good, is the social life gonna be as good? The entertainment, you know, your social network, all of that.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, there is something magical about LA that's, I mean, the city's changed a lot since the pandemic, so there are definitely cons, but there are a lot of pros too. And the magical part of LA is like, how many times I've kind of pinched myself in a situation where I was like, I can't believe I'm at this table with this person. You just have these moments that are surreal out here because it's connected to the industry or people you've admired or, you know, so you, you end up having these kind of magical nights here and there that you just like, if I told my, you know, 15 year old self that I'd be in this place doing this thing with these people, I would never believe it.
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Tig Notaro
Uh huh. You'd think you were a liar and now you've become somebody that people would be like, I was at dinner with Fortune Feimster last. Yeah, look at that, coming full circle.
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Fortune Feimster
And she asked if I was gonna finish my steak or my baked potato.
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Tig Notaro
And she didn't wait for an answer.
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Fortune Feimster
She just started eating it.
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Tig Notaro
She just swiped the things.
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Fortune Feimster
Should we get to some questions?
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Tig Notaro
I think we should. That's what we're here to do.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, it is.
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Tig Notaro
This question comes from Tori.
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Listener (Tori)
Hey handsomes. Super love you guys. I am sitting here with my sweet little fur baby, Roxanne, and we have a question for you. I often listen to you guys when I am doing my side gig. So my question is, what is the craziest, silliest, most fun thing that you ever did before you were so handsomely successful to make money? Can't wait to hear your answers.
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Fortune Feimster
I think this was pretty fun. For my first seven years in Los Angeles, I was an entertainment journalist. It started in 2003. I had a job and the person I was working for, her neighbor heard, she's like, I heard you can write. Would you be interested in like going to movie premieres or parties around town and just writing up a blurb for me? She wrote for the LA Daily News and I was like, like little old me? Yeah. I was like, that sounds cool. I was like 23 years old, just moved to LA and I was like, I get to go to movie premieres. That's cool. So yeah, I just kind of learned. I, I went with her to a two events, kind of saw how she did it and just kind of like taught myself how to Be a journalist.
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Tig Notaro
Wow.
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Fortune Feimster
And did that for a while. I think I helped her for like a year. And then these other. Right. This other column was looking for part time help and she gave them my information and I started working for them part time. So that that part time job ended up leading to a full time job for them. So for that whole time, I started going to all these events and award shows and I interviewed people on the phone and got to interview, like really amazing performers and directors and writers and went to sets and went to the Oscars and the Grammys and the Emmys and was in the press room. And it was. If I wanted to be a journalist, that would have been like, oh, I've made it.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
I just knew it wasn't what I wanted full time. I was pursuing comedy at night, but the people I wrote for were really supportive and knew I had this dream. And so they, you know, my job was what paid my bills and. And it was really rewarding. But then they also were very supportive of me pursuing comedy. So it was pretty perfect. And then that went until 2010. And then the newspapers, we wrote for like a hundred newspapers and online and the newspapers started folding. So they had to. They didn't have the money to pay to pay me anymore. So it kind of came to an end just because of that. And that's kind of what gave me the, like leaving the nest to pursue comedy full time.
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Tig Notaro
And so you were starting to feel like, oh, I want to try stand up.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah. I started groundlings in 2005 first and then stand up in 2007. And in 2010 was when I stopped being a journalist and I did Last Comic standing. And then 2011 is when I got Chelsea lately.
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Tig Notaro
Okay.
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Fortune Feimster
So it was a. It was a great job. I have so many. I had so many cool experiences that I got to do and talk to. Like, my first person I ever interviewed on the phone was Betty White. I got to talk to so many amazing people.
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Tig Notaro
And so as a journalist, was that a decent living?
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah. I mean, it didn't pay for someone who didn't grow up with money. I made basically kind of what a teacher makes, so it wasn't like extravagant, but I could pay my bills.
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Tig Notaro
That's cool.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, I love music and I play guitar and drums, but very, a very basic musician and I didn't feel comfortable on stage doing that. I tried a few times, but I was like, oh God. Like, I just, it's so weird that I can do stand up, but when I played guitar on stage, I was so nervous and uncomfortable. Like my hands would be trembling. But I wanted to be around the world of music. And so my girlfriend at the time had a band and I started managing and booking her band. Oh, cool. Yeah, so. And that led to me meeting people at record labels and I would be hired as like a independent promoter for different bands that were coming through different cities. And yeah, the music world, that was, it was, it was fun. And I, I started working with a couple other bands as well and booking them and I think actually working in that world made me, it really helped me with my career as a comedian because I realized that, you know, so many people when they start out, they're like, why am I not getting that job? Or I want this or I want that, manager, agent or whatever. And what I realized through working with bands was you have to do so much of your own work to get yourself to a certain point to make yourself appealing to people and places that want to work with you.
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Fortune Feimster
Or.
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Tig Notaro
So I just put my head down for the longest time. I didn't like worry about reps or, you know, managers, agents, anything like that. I was just like, I need to get good at stand up. And then once I have something to present to somebody, then, then I'll go for it. Yeah, but, but it was really fun at the time to hop in the tour van with my girlfriend or my, the other bands that I was friends with too, and just go on tour and. Yeah, and act like a hard nose manager.
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Fortune Feimster
Were you good at acting like a hard nose manager?
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Tig Notaro
I feel like I was good at the job, you know, I mean, I wasn't really a hard nose, but I was like. I mean, I probably came across as hard nosed because when I was much younger, I was so surrounded by my shell of protection that I probably seemed. I was probably a little off putting or hard to approach. So that kind of folded into, yeah, I'm a hard nose manager, but not really if you talk to me right. You know, I'm just scared and wounded. That's why my face looks Angry. But. But, yeah, so. So that worked to my advantage.
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Fortune Feimster
Oh, that's cool.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
It's like we had these other lifetimes.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah. And it's also funny because, you know, having that job, it made me realize that people in those jobs can just wake up one day and be like, I'm a manager. You know, I'm an agent.
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Fortune Feimster
We talk about that all the time. That there's so many jobs, especially in la, that people just decide they're that thing.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
And it requires no education or skill or experience.
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Tig Notaro
Experience.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah. I'm. I'm this now. Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
I mean, yeah, I'm a manager. And. And. And it works for a lot of people. But. But having had that job, it really made me realize, like, I know what's behind the curtain.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
And. And I woke up one day and said, I'm a manager. And so. But yeah, there's. There's really great managers that woke up one day and said, I'm a manager.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
And then there are others.
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Fortune Feimster
Figured it out.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
But.
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Tig Notaro
But yeah, that. I mean, it's the same with a comedian. Like, I. I woke up one day and said, I'm a comedian.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Tig Notaro
So many jobs in this industry don't need anything except, you know, you work on stuff for a little while, get your bearings, and you're off to the races. And I think that's probably why it appeals to somebody like myself with a seventh grade education. Okay, should we hear Tori's answer?
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Listener (Tori)
So my answer is, many years ago, as a young, young lady, I used to have to dress up as a hot dog and host children's birthday parties. It was not my finest moment. I definitely needed money. But you know what? A hundred dollars a party is A hundred dollars a party.
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Fortune Feimster
What's up?
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Listener (Tori)
Even dressed as a hot dog. Super love you guys. Thank you for the uplifting content. Every week. Have the most wonderful 20, 25.
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Fortune Feimster
You too, Tori.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, Tori in the bun.
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Fortune Feimster
I don't think I ever got invited to a birthday party where someone was dressed as a hot dog.
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Tig Notaro
Really? That's the only ones I go to. Fortune. I'm going to get you a hot dog for your next birthday party. Maybe we could reach out to Tori. I wonder if she still fits into her hot dog costume. All right, let's see. What else do we have? Mr. Thomas.
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Listener (Kathy)
Hi, Handsomes. My name is Kathy and I am calling you from Newfoundland, Canada. And my question is, do you have a specific phrase or word that you realized as an adult you have been saying wrong? Your who?
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Tig Notaro
Life.
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Listener (Kathy)
I'll Give you an example. My husband did not find out until he was about 28 years old that a grapefruit is not a great fruit. He thought it was a G R E a T fruit because it was hilarious.
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Fortune Feimster
Than the other fruits. A great fruit.
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Tig Notaro
I love how she uses an example of her.
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Fortune Feimster
Oh, Oh.
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Tig Notaro
I guess we're gonna find out later what hers is. Okay. I thought she was like, this guy. Huh.
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Fortune Feimster
Huh.
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Tig Notaro
I mean, right away, it reminded me of when I was a kid. I thought, you know, dress code. You have to wear a certain dress code or there's a certain dress code. I thought it was dress coat.
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Fortune Feimster
Oh, yeah. Adhere to the dress coat.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, Adhere to the dress coat.
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Fortune Feimster
There's, like, phrase phrases that sometimes I get. Like, I, I. People say I could care less or I couldn't care less. It's. I couldn't care less. Right?
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, because you're at the bottom. There's no room to care more.
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Fortune Feimster
But. But a lot of times people will say, I could care.
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Tig Notaro
No, there's room to care more. There's absolutely no room to care less.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, that one's always confusing for me.
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Tig Notaro
Well, I just picture it in like a. Like a tub of caring, and you're. You're at the very bottom, and underneath that, there's no.
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Fortune Feimster
No, there's no room.
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Tig Notaro
There's also phrases where I'm like, what the hell does that mean? I say it correctly, but I'm like, what is by and large?
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Fortune Feimster
You know, like by and large in and of itself.
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Tig Notaro
Yes, yes. It's that kind of thing. By and large.
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Fortune Feimster
Doesn'T make sense.
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Tig Notaro
No. Whenever somebody says that, I'm like, by and large. By and large, by and large.
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Fortune Feimster
My mom's been on me. I don't say this one because my mom's is a grammar police and she's drilled this into my head forever. Yeah, but irregardless is not a word. So if you say irregardless, there was.
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Tig Notaro
There's a comedian a long time ago, Freddie Soto. He passed away. He was a comedy store comedian, and he had a whole bit on irregardless.
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Fortune Feimster
Really?
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Tig Notaro
Yeah. Yeah. He was famous for his irregardless bit.
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Fortune Feimster
Funny. I'll have to look it up.
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Tig Notaro
Well, an ex of mine used to always say Chester drawers rather than chest of drawers. She'd be like, put that in my Chester drawers.
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Fortune Feimster
That's funny.
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Tig Notaro
That is not what that's called.
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Fortune Feimster
I really don't know if I have. I'm sure there's words that I've not used correctly or mispronounce but.
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Tig Notaro
Oh, I know, I know, I know mine. I was doing my very first podcast, which was very many years ago, and I was just casually chatting and I said, oh, careful, you don't want to tump that over. And my co hosts were like, I'm sorry, what did you say? And I was like, oh, you know, you just want to make sure you don't tump that over. And. And they're like, tump what? Like, that's not a word. What are you talking about? And I was like, yeah, it is, but I don't know if it's same from where you come from, but it's Southern dialect. To tump is to knock something over. And I didn't find out until I was probably late 30s that Tump was not a word.
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Fortune Feimster
It's not a word.
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Tig Notaro
What about you? Did you grow up saying tump?
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Fortune Feimster
Never heard tump.
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Tig Notaro
Wow.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, yeah, because normally I do know some of those random southern phrases.
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Tig Notaro
Well, I also say wasn't. I wasn't gonna do it. Or it doesn't. It doesn't matter.
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Fortune Feimster
I say, it doesn't matter.
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Tig Notaro
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wasn't gonna do it. Another person I dated used to say, I feel like I'm dating George Bush Jr. Wasn't gonna do it.
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Fortune Feimster
What are you going to do when.
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Tig Notaro
Going to do it? I'm going to top that over. All right, let's hear Kathy's answer.
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Listener (Kathy)
Yeah, I thought that when you hauled off and punched somebody really hard, it was called a soccer punch. Like a soccer ball is hitting them. I did not know it was called a sucker punch until I was way too old to learn new information. So that's my answer. I love the podcast. Love all of you. Cheers.
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Tig Notaro
We love you too, Kathy and Tori. What great listeners we have.
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Fortune Feimster
You sure do.
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Tig Notaro
Yes.
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Fortune Feimster
Get us thinking.
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Tig Notaro
Yes. Wasn't going to do it at first, but anyway.
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Fortune Feimster
Submit your questions by these questions.
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Tig Notaro
Yep. Yeah, these questions really tumped us right over. Submit your questions@speakpipe.com handsome podcast that is speakpipe.com handsomepod and really get into your handsome brains and pull out some interesting, weird, obscure kind of questions.
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Fortune Feimster
Hit us with your best shot.
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Tig Notaro
That's right. And always check out my website if you want to see what I'm up to or where I'm out and about.
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Fortune Feimster
Out and about. Newfoundland.
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Tig Notaro
That's right. Do you have anything to say before we wrap this up?
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Fortune Feimster
Just appreciate everybody that gives us questions. It's fun to hear from you guys. And yeah, I'm on the road too. Go to my website, come see a show, buy some merch@thehandspod.com yeah, and until then, keep it pretty. Handsome Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and May Martin. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Wuellette. Email us@handsomepodmail.com and follow us on social media. Ansomepod what a podcast.
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Listener (Tori)
What a podcast.
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Fortune Feimster
That was a headgum podcast. That was a headgum podcast.
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