Pretty Little Episode #33

Summary

Podcast Summary: Handsome – Pretty Little Episode #33

Release Date: April 4, 2025
Host/Authors: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin (Produced by Headgum)

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1. Welcome and Episode Introduction

The episode kicks off with Tig Notaro and Mae Martin warmly welcoming listeners to the "Pretty Little Episode." Despite brief interruptions by promotional content, the hosts immediately dive into their typical candid and humorous dialogue.

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2. Authenticity and People-Pleasing

May Martin and Tig Notaro engage in a heartfelt conversation about living authentically versus hiding aspects of oneself. May introduces a favorite quote:

May Martin (02:04): "Happiness is when what you say, what you think and what you do are in alignment."

Tig shares her perspective on authenticity:

Tig Notaro (01:04): "Nice to be where I am, you know, just doing normal things as a normal person, living a normal life."

This segment delves into the challenges of being genuine in a world that often pressures individuals to conform or appease others.

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3. Setting Boundaries and Personal Stories

The discussion naturally transitions to the topic of setting personal boundaries and the struggle against people-pleasing tendencies.

May Martin expresses her discomfort with extreme self-care practices that advocate cutting people out completely:

May Martin (02:15): "I reject... the new kind of self-care... I don't like that."

Tig Notaro recounts a memorable encounter during a yard sale, illustrating her approach to maintaining boundaries:

Tig Notaro (03:17): "Scram Clown. He was gone."

This anecdote underscores the importance of asserting oneself to preserve personal well-being.

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4. Music Preferences and Parenting

A significant portion of the episode delves into Tig and May's musical tastes, both personal and incorporated into their parenting. They discuss the influence of music on their children, Max and Finn, and how it serves as a bonding tool.

May Martin shares her eclectic music list:

May Martin (09:31): "I listened to Half Moon Run, Elliot Smith, the Beatles, and recently getting back into Bob Dylan."

Tig Notaro contrasts her past preferences with her children’s current tastes:

Tig Notaro (12:02): "I'm listening to Eminem and Good Charlotte and Blink 182 and Kendrick Lamar and All American Rejects."

They humorously debate the classification of bands like Blink-182 and Good Charlotte as "pop punk" rather than true punk, emphasizing generational shifts in music perception.

Notable Quote:

Tig Notaro (16:43): "Blink 182 and bands like that are not punk for sure. And they're not pop. Yeah, yeah, Pop punk."

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5. Listener Question: CDs on Repeat

A listener named KJ asks about the CDs the hosts are currently putting on repeat. This leads to an engaging exchange about their favorite albums and artists.

May Martin responds with her current favorites:

May Martin (09:29): "Half Moon Run, Elliot Smith, the Beatles, and Bob Dylan."

Tig Notaro adds her preferences:

Tig Notaro (16:48): "Eminem and Good Charlotte and Blink 182 and Kendrick Lamar and All American Rejects."

This segment highlights the diverse musical landscapes the hosts navigate both personally and through their children’s interests.

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6. Listener Question: Pillow Preferences

Another listener, Erin, inquires about the number, size, and firmness of pillows the hosts use. Tig and May playfully attempt to guess each other's pillow setups before revealing their own.

May Martin accurately predicts Tig’s pillow arrangement:

May Martin (19:44): "I have an orthopedic pillow for my neck and a long body pillow that I sometimes hug when I go on my side."

Tig Notaro explains her own setup:

Tig Notaro (20:03): "I have my orthopedic pillow and then just a long pillow in case I need to go over."

Erin shares her detailed pillow strategy:

Erin (19:07): "I sleep with four pillows. Two under my head, one on the side to cuddle, and one between my legs to support my knees and hips."

The hosts humorously critique excessive decorative pillow use, emphasizing practicality over aesthetics.

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7. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

As the episode draws to a close, Tig and May share information about upcoming live streams and performances, teasing surprises and encouraging listeners to stay tuned for future content. They express excitement about their personal and professional projects, fostering a sense of community and anticipation among their audience.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• May Martin (02:04): "Happiness is when what you say, what you think and what you do are in alignment."
• Tig Notaro (03:17): "Scram Clown. He was gone."
• Tig Notaro (16:43): "Blink 182 and bands like that are not punk for sure. And they're not pop. Yeah, yeah, Pop punk."
• Erin (19:07): "I sleep with four pillows. Two under my head, one on the side to cuddle, and one between my legs to support my knees and hips."

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Conclusion

Pretty Little Episode #33 of "Handsome" offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and relatable discussions on authenticity, boundaries, and the universal language of music. Tig Notaro and May Martin's candid dialogue provides listeners with both laughter and insights, making it a compelling episode for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

Pretty little episode.

[May Martin]

Welcome to another pretty little episode with your old pal May Martin.

[Tig Notaro]

And you're even older pal. Take Notaro.

[May Martin]

Nice to be here.

[Tig Notaro]

Nice to be where I am, you know, just doing normal things as a normal person, living a normal life.

[May Martin]

It sounds like you're hiding something when you say it like that. It sounds like you're doing weird shit.

[Tig Notaro]

Listen, I pride myself on. I'm not hiding anything. Did I tell you about the time I was sitting in my old house on the couch, curtains were open. Did I tell you this story?

[May Martin]

No. No.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, and the sun went down as I was working on my computer and I thought, I really need to get up and shut my curtains.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Because people were, you know, walking by my place, and then I just thought, I got nothing to hide.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

This is all I'm doing. Okay. I'm sitting on a couch. Returning emails. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I just. I don't think I'm hiding anything.

[May Martin]

No. You, you, you. I've said before, maybe one of my favorite quotes is that happiness is when what you say, what you think and what you do are in alignment. And I feel like you do live that way.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, I try to.

[May Martin]

Yeah, you try.

[Tig Notaro]

You try to. And do you feel like you're far off from that?

[May Martin]

Yes. Well, I just am a bit of a people pleaser sometimes, I think. And.

[Tig Notaro]

And do you want to not be a people pleaser?

[May Martin]

Well, I. I reject. Like, there's a new kind of self care, therapizing language that people use sometimes about like being like the. The, like. Like that's very hard line. Like cut people out of your life. Just do look after number one. Do, you know, practice like rigorous self care. That means like, you're not emotionally accountable to anyone else. Everyone else is responsible for their feelings. And I don't like that.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So I don't want to go Too far that way. But I definitely do need to be a little. A little more boundaried.

[Tig Notaro]

I feel that same way. I mean, I don't. I don't feel harshly towards people. I mean, unless they're being totally weird. And, you know, then I'm like, scram Clown clown. Did I tell you the Scram Clown story?

[May Martin]

No, but. Oh, this rings a bell. Maybe that I said we need merch of Scram Clown. But I can't remember the story. What is it?

[Tig Notaro]

When Chris Fairbanks and I lived together, we were having a yard sale and somebody walked up and was acting very weird at our little table with our. Our little pieces of garbage we were trying to sell.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And it really was becoming problematic. And I just went, all right, scram Clown. And he was so flustered and he just shuffled off. And I was. And Chris turned to me is like.

[May Martin]

Wow, I have never heard that story.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, you haven't?

[May Martin]

We do need Scram Clown merch.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay. Yeah. It's just. It just hit me like a ton of bricks in that mo. In that moment of like, I don't have to sit here and be. And be patiently taking in his very uncomfortable, weird stuff. And I thought if I step it up a notch and go beyond kind of my normal vibe, then maybe he'll leave. And I did. I truly did it. Like, all right, that's it. Scram Clown.

[May Martin]

I like that a lot.

[Tig Notaro]

He was gone.

[May Martin]

I did have a breakthrough once where I. Because on your deathbed, you're not going to be like, oh, I'm so glad I patiently sat in all those conversations with people who didn't give a shit about. And so one time I was on a date and I had been on a few first dates where the people hadn't asked me a single question about myself. And I'd been like doing all the.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So after like 45 minutes, I was like, do you want to know anything about me? Like, would you like to ask a question? And it felt good to say that, but it did ruin the vibe completely.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, for both people.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I mean, my vibe lost because I was already annoyed.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I'm trying to think if I could bounce back if I.

[May Martin]

If someone said that to you.

[Tig Notaro]

Someone said that to me. Or if I said that to them. It would probably depend on their reaction.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Yeah. If they can be self deprecating about it.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. If they could. If they could really get real and in check in the moment and we could kind of, you know, they're like, I'm sorry. I was nervous and I just kept talking about myself and I know that probably opened me up, I think I.

[May Martin]

Didn'T say it meanly. And you're right, that comes from nervousness. Like even now I'm like, oh, man. But they just probably were nervous.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, but we'll never know.

[May Martin]

We'll never know.

[Tig Notaro]

We will never know. Do you think about either of those people still?

[May Martin]

No.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it's fine. Is there anybody you still think about that you kind of almost.

[May Martin]

Oh, innumerable. I can't let things go. I'm a nostalgic, sentimental person. I'm writing songs about people. I'm like, I cannot let things go. I love people.

[Tig Notaro]

But not just people you were involved with, but somebody is there somebody that you just had one date with and you just don't know quite why it didn't work out? And are you like, can't stop thinking about that person from 10 years ago?

[May Martin]

No, but I have sort of friends who are like, I wrote, I have a song on the album I put out called I love you so much and it's like, about a. You know those friends that you have in your life where you're like, you're 100% my friend. I love hanging out with you and that's great. But if, if you said the word, I would blow up my whole life to like, you know what I mean?

[Tig Notaro]

Wait, no. What do you blow up your whole life to? To be with him?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Like just the friends who you're like, I'm so happy being your friend. I love your partner. I love everything about you. But like, if that person turned on the charm one night or was like, hey, I have feelings for you, you'd be fucked. You'd be a goner.

[Tig Notaro]

Uh huh.

[May Martin]

Anyway, I played that in London and a lot of my friends were there and apparently six people thought it was about them because I have these very, like, gray area friendships a lot, I guess.

[Tig Notaro]

And so you. In my 20s, anyway, was that song written for all of those people or was it one person?

[May Martin]

One person.

[Tig Notaro]

One person. And you still feel that way about that person?

[May Martin]

Well, you don't know till it happens really. I like love them. As a friend. Have you ever written a song for someone?

[Tig Notaro]

I have. Not good ones. I feel like I write music or I did. I used to. I don't anymore.

[May Martin]

Like melodies and instrumental.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, instrumentals is more of what I would do. And I, I was. No, I mean, every now and then I try and cram some words in there and it was like, this isn't a match. I'M not a songwriter.

[May Martin]

Why is, like, yearning so creatively productive? Like, there's that quote in the Great Gatsby that's like, the object of his yearning could never live up to the yearning itself or something like that. Like, when you actually get there, you're like, anyway.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yearning. That's. It's a really interesting. I know that I. When I've been in that place, I need. I need space for my life and people, and I need to just kind of stew. Yeah. And just, like, be in, like, a music spiral and. And think about my feelings about the person and. Yeah, all of that kind of stuff.

[May Martin]

Love it.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, that's. That's what happens to me.

[May Martin]

So satisfying to just, like. If you give yourself that space to wallow a little bit and, like, get emo, then I think you move through it faster.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, for sure.

[May Martin]

And also, those are always the most relatable feelings in the world. Like, everyone has had that feeling.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes. Well, should we see if we can relate to anyone's feelings in their questions?

[May Martin]

Just so you know, this whole time I've been talking about you.

[Tig Notaro]

That song I wrote on to our question.

[KJ]

Hey, handsome pod. It's me, kj, your other handsome friend. I just wanted to say thanks for all the laughs and may thank you for your new album. I've been waking up with it in my head, listening to it every day. And for that reason, I just want to know, what CDs are you guys putting on repeat all the time?

[Tig Notaro]

CDs?

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Tig Notaro]

I haven't put a CD on.

[May Martin]

Thanks for listening to the album. That's so nice to think of someone waking up and putting it on.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. What. What CD have you been putting on?

[May Martin]

What have I been listening to? I listened to the same kind of four people on repeat. I listened to Half Moon Run, this Canadian band. They just put out a new single. I listened to Elliot Smith, the Beatles, and recently getting back into Bob Dylan because. Because I guess everyone because of that movie. Coming out in my. In my teens, I felt like I had, like, a personal relationship to Bob Dylan. And then I've really forgotten that. And then I was, listen Hard Rain's Gonna Fall the other night. And thinking, oh, my God, the lyrics.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, that is a good tune. Have you heard Edie Burkel's version of it?

[May Martin]

No, I'm writing that down now.

[Tig Notaro]

I mean, don't just write it down and not revisit that.

[May Martin]

I have notebooks full of things I wrote down while you were talking.

[Tig Notaro]

I know, but it's so important for you to listen to Edie Burkel and New Bohemians.

[May Martin]

Hard rain's gonna fall Hard rain's gonna.

[Tig Notaro]

Fall okay, I'm going to. So wildly. I'm not crazy about COVID songs.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

But, my Lord, is that perfection?

[May Martin]

Oh, man. Do you ever find, like, music is so evocative that if you're genuinely feeling down, you can't go there. Like, you've got. I've got to be in a good place to listen to sad songs because I want to feel something.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Yeah.

[May Martin]

If I'm already down, I can't listen to.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Sad songs. I gotta listen to, like, sort of 90s R B and.

[Tig Notaro]

So where does Alanis fit in your rotation?

[May Martin]

Well, after I saw Alanis Live recently, I listened to Jagged Little Pill every morning while I worked out. And my personal trainer, he would put it on his little Bluetooth thing, and I would listen to the entire album. And some of those songs are sad to work out to. Yeah, I love her. What about you?

[Tig Notaro]

I dated somebody years ago. I think when that album first came out, that played it on repeat. Repeat, repeat.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

So. And then I think that it wasn't until. What was her song? Thank you.

[May Martin]

Thank you, India.

[Tig Notaro]

I love that song.

[May Martin]

Thank you, Frailty.

[Tig Notaro]

I love. Do you like that song?

[May Martin]

I love that song.

[Tig Notaro]

I love it so much. I think that's when Alanis got my attention.

[May Martin]

Really?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Because the. The first. That other album, I enjoyed it, but.

[May Martin]

You kind of had to rebel against the person you're dating who was obsessed as well.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, maybe. I don't know, it just. I was just like, oh, yeah, this is good. And. But then, yeah, when thank you came out, I was like, I don't know how much more perfect this song can be.

[May Martin]

Yeah, you're right.

[Tig Notaro]

Ranks up there with Edie Burkel's version of A Hard Rain Is Gonna Fall.

[May Martin]

I can't wait to hear that. Yeah. What are you listening to in your house? Like, do your kids put stuff on and.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I would say. I've never been like, a. I think I've talked about how Max and Finn are very. Well, Max is very into pop punk. Like.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Like 182.

[May Martin]

Yes.

[Tig Notaro]

He's so into Blink. 182, Green Day. He's really into. What is it? What? American Rejects. What is that called?

[May Martin]

Yeah, All American Rejects.

[Tig Notaro]

All American Rejects. Like, he.

[May Martin]

Good Charlotte.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, he's into all of that stuff.

[May Martin]

The best thing about seeing those bands live now, like, Good Charlotte, still touring, is they haven't changed the lyrics, so it's still like, that girl in class was mean to me. And my dad didn't pick me up.

[Tig Notaro]

Like, my dad didn't pick me up. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate first.

[May Martin]

Like, you know, to check that the magician who's going table to table is okay with you doing a couple tricks of your own before asking to borrow their deck.

[Tig Notaro]

Checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote. That could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Savings vary subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. I know. I always think when we're driving them to school because we alternate between that and, like, Eminem.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Because Finn just, I mean, is so into Eminem and Kendrick Lamar, and so we alternate between those two. But whenever. The All American Reject song, I Don't Want to Be like you. You know that song I Don't want.

[May Martin]

To be like you.

[Tig Notaro]

I don't want to be just like you. Yeah. It feels like such a song that they wrote specifically for kids that are feeling rebellious about their parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we're pulling up to the school to drop them off with the windows down, and, you know, we have, you know, All American Rejects blaring or Eminem.

[May Martin]

That's so good.

[Tig Notaro]

But I'm. I'm so enjoying being into their music.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

You know, such a great way to.

[May Martin]

Bond with them, too. And also, it must be. It's funny how it's probably cathartic for them, those songs like that, even though they have, like. It doesn't relate to their experience at all. But just all kids have that, like. Like some subconscious push against authority, even if it's. Their teacher is like, yeah. It must feel good to be, like, singing those tunes full volume.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And it's fun to be their two moms in the front seat rocking out. So that's kind of. It's. It's a new thing for me to. To be listening to music through somebody else's ears.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And. And it's not like my go to. Like, I was never into pop punk. I was into the Sex Pistols.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

You know.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And. And when Stephanie, when we got together, you know, her. Her age lines up with Blink 182 and all of those Good Charlotte. And I'd be like. When she would refer to it as punk, I was like, this isn't.

[May Martin]

It's not punk.

[Tig Notaro]

It's so melodic.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Punk is not melodic. I mean, even Though now the Sex Pistols actually sound melodic.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I think you would love Fontaine's dc, this Irish band that are so amazing now. And they. They're quite hard. Like, they have a punk ele, but, like, the lead singer is just a poet. It's. They're amazing. Fontaine's dc, I listen to a lot. And Young Fathers, this Scottish rap group. Maybe should we make each other playlists?

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And send me any rap that you think Max and Finn, or especially Finn would like.

[May Martin]

For sure.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't like things bleeped out. He likes the original version. And would you agree that Blink 182 and bands like that are punk pop? Like, they're pop punk or whatever.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Like, they're not punk for sure. And they're not pop. Yeah, yeah, Pop punk. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Okay. Because Stephanie was like, no, this is punk. And I'm like, no, I know. Come on. No, no, no. Anyway, so that's what I'm listening to is Eminem and Good Charlotte and Blink 182 and Kendrick Lamar and All American Rejects.

[May Martin]

But mainly I'm listening to true crime podcasts. Let's be honest. I'm trying to wean myself off because I don't want those vibrations in my bod.

[Tig Notaro]

You don't want those to be in.

[May Martin]

Your body just like them. I gotta be my own guy. Oh, there's one. There's one pop punk song that you gotta play for them. That is so. It makes me laugh so much because it's so angry. 60. This guy goes. He goes, Tell my friends I'm dead. Tell my friends that I am dead. It's insane.

[Tig Notaro]

And who is it by?

[May Martin]

And this time it's for good. Who's it by?

[Tig Notaro]

I don't know if I need to introduce that vibe to an 8 year old right now. Yeah.

[May Martin]

It's just so emo.

[Tig Notaro]

And I'm sorry, what is the band.

[May Martin]

Oh, Newfound. Newfound Glory. Newfound.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, it's Newfound Glory.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Forget My Name, it's called. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. We listen to Newfound Glory. Oh, gosh.

[May Martin]

It won't be long till you forget my name.

[Tig Notaro]

That is what our little family vehicle is blaring out of the windows.

[May Martin]

That's awesome.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Let's hear KJ's answer.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[KJ]

For me, right now, it's Maze. It's Dochi's Alligator Bites Never Heal, Kendrick Lamar's gnx. And then it'll randomly also be a John Prine album of some kind.

[Tig Notaro]

Got to. Thanks.

[May Martin]

Bye.

[Tig Notaro]

Nice. Kj.

[May Martin]

I love that. That's an eclectic mix. I love the idea of one of my little mid tempo songs being followed by Kendrick. Kendrick.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Oh, man, that's amazing.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

I hope someone listens to my album on a road trip. That's the dream, like, really getting, like, cinematic in their minds.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm sure it's happened many times.

[May Martin]

Should we get one more quick question?

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, let's do a quickie.

[Erin]

Hello, handsome pod. My name is Erin and I live in Florida. And my question is, how many pillows do you sleep with? And what is the size and firmness of those pillows? I've asked this question to a lot of friends and family, and I'm always really surprised by the answer, so I'd love to hear yours.

[May Martin]

I want to predict each other's answers.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[May Martin]

I feel like maybe now you have an orthopedic pillow of some kind, but I feel like for a long time maybe you had, like, a thin. Like, as thin as a credit card.

[Tig Notaro]

You are completely right about the orthopedic pillow.

[May Martin]

Okay.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, for sure. And then is that the end of your guess?

[May Martin]

We'll see. Like a firm. A firm pillow.

[Tig Notaro]

Not too firm, but, like a decent firmness. It's a really nice orthopedic pillow.

[May Martin]

Do you have a body pillow? Like a long one?

[Tig Notaro]

I. I do. It's not like one of those specifically, you know, snoodles or whatever those are called, where it, like, wraps around your whole body and ends your marriage. But I do have a long pillow that I'll. If I turn over on my side, I put between my knees or whatever. Yeah. But, yeah, I have my orthopedic pillow and then just a long pillow in case. In case I need to go over.

[May Martin]

On my side and maybe like an extra regular pillow floating around in case.

[Tig Notaro]

Those would be Stephanie's.

[May Martin]

Okay. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

But I will say one of my biggest annoyances in life that I do not understand at all is people that fill their bed with decorative pillows.

[May Martin]

I can. I completely agree.

[Tig Notaro]

What the hell is. What I don't understand.

[May Martin]

You're gonna throw them off the bed right away?

[Tig Notaro]

Like, and do they look that good on the bed? No, no, it's the people that put pillows, like, beyond even halfway down the bed. Like, just pillows. Pillows, pillows. Why?

[May Martin]

I guess if you're hanging out fully clothed on top of your bed reading a book maybe. But, like.

[Tig Notaro]

No, keep your bed, your bed.

[May Martin]

No, yeah, I agree.

[Tig Notaro]

It's a whole process of taking all the pillows off. Where do they. Where do they go? Yeah, just on the floor. Gross. And then you put them Back up. No.

[May Martin]

What do you think my pillow situation is?

[Tig Notaro]

I think you have three fluffy pillows. Interesting or no pillow interest.

[May Martin]

I'm not a psychopath. Can you imagine?

[Tig Notaro]

Prove it. Prove it.

[May Martin]

Okay. You're not going to believe this, but my pillow situation is I have an orthopedic pillow for my neck.

[Tig Notaro]

Okay.

[May Martin]

And I have a long body pillow that I sometimes hug when I go on my side. Exact same. So it's really literally identical setup.

[Tig Notaro]

Wow. So this would have been a perfect two against one because we know Fortune has to have some different pillow combo.

[May Martin]

I bet she's surrounded by fluffy cloud pillows.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

No, I'm. Yeah. I love to spoon a body pillow.

[Tig Notaro]

Do you just have a regular long pillow? You didn't buy a snoodle thing or whatever those are called?

[May Martin]

No, not one of the ones that like wraps around. But it is just memory foam. It's not regular, but it's just like a long cylinder.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Okay.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

All right, well, let's hear Aaron's answer.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Erin]

My answer is I sleep with four pillows. I have two that are sort of under my head. I prefer my head to actually be on a fairly small, like, scrunchie pillow that you can mold into different shapes. And then I have one pillow on the side I'm facing so I can sort of like cuddle it to support my arm. And then I have one between my legs to support, you know, my knees and hips and everything. But I've talked to so many people who only sleep with one little pillow under their head, and I don't. I don't understand what's happening. What are their arms doing?

[May Martin]

Well, the one under the arm and the one between the legs could be replaced by one long cylinder. Yeah, you gotta be more economical here.

[Tig Notaro]

Absolutely. You heard it here first.

[May Martin]

You heard it here first, Aaron. Yeah, Great question.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, both great questions. These are always so fun. Please send in more questions for us to pick from.

[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

It is, handsome Pod. That's right.

[May Martin]

And tune into our live Stream show on April 12th.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, April 12th. You must tune in because there is going to be a. It's an off the charts surprise for May and Fortune that night. You do not want to miss this live stream. Thomas is nodding with a smirk on his face. Yes.

[May Martin]

You're in on it, Thomas.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, he is.

[May Martin]

I love a surprise.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, it is quite a surprise.

[May Martin]

I gotta get planning. I wanted something.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, well, it's not gonna top what I have.

[May Martin]

No. I'm so excited to be astounded and.

[Tig Notaro]

You, you and Fortune, you deserve every bit of what's coming to you.

[May Martin]

That seems ominous. Check out my instagram for upcoming shows. I'm go April 25th in LA or maymartinmusic.com for music stuff and I will.

[Tig Notaro]

Be in Eureka Springs, Arkansas June 14th and then I will also be in P town August 23rd. Go to tignotaro.com and you'll see all of my dates there which also include Largo and Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles. But yeah, until next time. I mean keep it pretty. Handsome Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and May Martin. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Wuellette. Email [e-mail] and follow us on social media. Ansomepod what a podcast.

[May Martin]

What a podcast.

[KJ]

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[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

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