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Pretty little episode.
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Welcome to the handsome pod. It's me, your very dear friend, Tig Notaro, sitting here with my co host.
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Your close personal friend, May Martin.
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Hello, May.
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Hello, Tig.
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Now tell me, what is going on behind you?
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Oh, this is the same old thing. This pile of clothes, they're all gonna get donated. I was gonna sell them. My friend who lives in my back house was gonna sell them and. And keep the cash, but nobody wants to buy them on Facebook. Marketplace. So we're gonna just donate.
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I have a new idea. Oh, donation is great, but you could also promote this online. That it's just a mixed bag of random stuff from Mae Martin and. Yeah. And so you. You pay a certain amount of money that you know is going to go to charity.
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Yeah.
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And. And it's just a mixed bag. You just. You get it in the mail and. Oh, my gosh, there's a shoe, there's a bow tie, there's a mustache, there's a toothbrush.
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Yeah.
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There's one sock, a piece of quartz.
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A blazer. Yeah, that's a good idea. I like that. I mean, I'm already, like, I'm. It's a hive of industry here with these, like, animal books I'm sending out. It's crazy. My house is so full of stuff.
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And how. How is homeowning going all these months later?
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I just. I'm not here enough. But I have big. I got big plans, you know, I'm going to get an ice plunge, maybe, or.
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I thought you were saying ice skating rink.
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I. I wouldn't be shocked.
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I wouldn't either.
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I. You know what? I got a dart board. A professional dart board. I'm going to put it outside. And what makes it professional? Well, the. I think the quality. It's dense cork and sharp.
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Sharp metal.
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Sharp darts.
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Yeah.
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I might become one of those people with, like, personalized darts and. Yeah. Do you play? If you play darts, I imagine you'd be weirdly good at it. Like bullseye.
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I have played darts, in fact, when I was in Toronto for season one of Starfleet Academy. This isn't darts, but it's a brutal version of darts. I was doing ax throwing at targets for charity.
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And did you find it intuitive?
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Yeah. Yeah. Have you thrown an axe?
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Never. Never done it.
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Nor had I, my friend. And it was really fun and satisfying.
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Yeah. The sound when it thunk into the. Yeah, yeah. Were you throwing them just at a target or at like a.
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At a target. Yeah. It was like a. It was a bullseye.
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Oh, cool.
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Mm.
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Okay. That's good.
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Mm. But I've also done the sharp metal darts, and I've also done the Velcro darts, which Max and Finn have.
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Okay. I just like the idea of. With darts, you can stay very still, and then it's just like a flick of the wrist and.
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Oh.
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Oh, man. One time my mom threw one, it went in the bullseye. Then she threw another one, and it stuck into the back of that dart. It was. I. You had to see it to believe it. I have a photo of it. It was like.
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I don't think I'd even believe it if I saw it, I'll be honest.
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Bullseye on bullseye. It was crazy. Mic drop moment from Wendy.
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Wow.
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Yeah. But I had to get a dartboard because foosballs become too competitive, and we started. We're drifting into dangerous territory because we started putting, like, five bucks on a game kind of thing.
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May.
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I know. And we've. We've introduced money, and so we've got to take it.
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Not only that, but high stakes.
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I know, but. And I. And I lose every time. So. Yeah. Now it's going to be darts for a while.
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Okay. Well, I'm open to you going pro.
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Thank you. Getting one of those shiny acrylic shirts.
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I don't know what people wear in the world of darts, but they're shiny.
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I feel like they're dressed kind of like bowlers. Like, they wear. Yeah. Shiny shirts, maybe they have sort of glasses. And I feel like it's the only professional sport where you can, like, nurse a beer while you do it. Like, I swear, they. It's like, part of the culture.
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I feel like people do that with golf. Right?
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Do they?
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You're on the course. Maybe have, like, a little cooler of beer. I don't know. I really don't know.
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Fortune will tell us soon with her. Her new job as a caddy.
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Oh, right. I was like, wait, golf? Like, yeah, well, I guess we'll find out.
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I mean, I got. I hate to add another thing to the list, but I would love to have you over to play darts, not ice skate. Can you imagine just, like, the amount of energy it would take to keep that cold in LA too? Like, just. Yeah, this, like, deafening roar of the air conditioning and the freezer and the.
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It wouldn't be good for the environment.
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No, it'd be bad.
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No, no. Oh, well, we can ask Fortune about that, too.
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Yeah. Just kidding.
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I don't know. I'm sure she's working on a film about ice skating or something.
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You know, I have a question. Have you ever had a dream about me or Fortune?
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No, of course not.
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What do you mean, of course not? We haven't penetrated your subconscious.
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Nothing has. I don't really have dreams often.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah. Every now and then, a little something happens and I'll wake up and I'll be like, oh, that was a slight dream, I guess.
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Yeah.
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What about you? You have vivid dreams?
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Yeah, and usually very literal about stuff going on in my life or, like, exes or family. But I've never had a. A handsome dream. And I think that's because our relationship is very uncomplicated. There's nothing to work out in my subconscious. Like, it's a healthy relation.
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Yeah, yeah, it's. It is what it seems to be.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, aside from all the simmering sexual tension, of course, which will one day explode.
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Simmering sexual tension and simmering rage.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, yes, but, yeah. So you feel like. Because there's not some sort of underlying drama that you're not dreaming?
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Well, when I dream, it's usually like a conversation I want to have with someone that I haven't. But I wouldn't. I'd love to have you guys pop up in a dream and just say, hi, say hi. You know me.
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So. So just to go back to that, there's not anything that. And maybe this isn't the place to do it, but there's not anything you want to, like, clear the air with.
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Me about or any grievances to air?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Let me. Well, with Fortune, there's the lingering resentment about the Alanis. Morris.
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Oh, of course, that'll never go away. But on a serious level. Yeah, as serious as we can be on here, is there something you wish I'd do differently, or.
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No, I think I feel really respected and supported. You know, I. I'd love to spend more time together, frankly.
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You know that's not gonna happen.
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Ex. Exactly.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But no. What about you? Anything you Want to air?
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I don't feel comfortable on the show.
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Okay. Yes. Yes, of course your agent will reach out to me.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yes. I'm actually without an agent.
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Oh, fuck.
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Yes.
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I didn't know this, did you? Because my agents got nervous when they heard about that. Agents got nervous when they hear about people dropping their. Or going agent free. And so they were like. I think that they were like. So it's. But we're good, right?
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That's hilarious.
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I know. I know.
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That is so funny.
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Contagious.
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I was just ready to. To just kind of set sail in a new direction and, you know, no hard feelings and, you know, I still want to work, but I just. I just. I just wanted to go in a new direction.
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Yeah. And it's tough when you're generating your own projects and stuff, too. It is kind of like. Yeah. But I bet. I bet those agents are dreaming about you now. Should we get to a question?
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I think we should.
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Hi, everybody. My name is Megan, and I am going to ask you a question.
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Here it is.
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You name your favorite ghost.
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My favorite ghost. I love that question, but am I hearing that correctly? My. My favorite ghost.
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Yeah. You know what I'm thinking about that song by. Is it Kate? Kate. I'm Running up that Hill. Kate Bush. Yeah. Kate Bush. Isn't that about, like, the ghost in Wuthering Heights or something?
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I don't know, but it's a phenomenal song.
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Yeah. Favorite.
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Is that your favorite ghost?
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No, no. My favorite ghost has got to be the Telltale Heart one. And, you know, Edgar Allan Poe wrote that story. There's like a. He hears. I think he murdered someone, this guy, and he hears the beating heart from under his floorboards. And, like, when the cops come, he's so afraid they're gonna hear the beating heart. And so I. I think that ghost had it right. It was, like, really mess with someone who. Who killed you, torment them with your beating heart. I think that's a cheeky little ghost. And. And I'm on board. Yeah.
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I don't. I mean, this question, this person is assuming I have a favorite ghost.
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Well, what. What are some ghosts like? You got Casper, you know, I mean.
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Casper's the most famous ghost, right?
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Yeah, I think so. Oh, maybe Christmas past, I still feel like Casper. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because I feel like no matter how old you are, you know about Casper.
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Yeah.
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Whereas maybe not everyone knows about Christmas Past.
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You're right.
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Until a certain age.
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But is he your favorite?
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I. Well, that's the thing is, it's like they all fall in the same category of who gives a. Oh, you heard it here.
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Wait, but have you ever seen one?
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No.
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Okay. Yeah. Because that might be your favorite if you'd seen one. I haven't either.
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But, I mean, I just don't know. You know, I think as I talked about on the Andrea Gibson episode, the Kristen Schall episode, I feel Andrea in a different way than I felt anybody, But I don't know that I see Andrea as a ghost.
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Yeah. That you would go so far.
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Yeah.
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As to say ghost.
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But I feel it's challenged my thoughts and beliefs about the afterlife, even. You know, I told you before we got started, Andrea's wife Meg is staying with me right now, and we had a conversation and a thing happen that was. We were just stunned the way things lined up and handed us over to something where we were all full of goosebumps and tears and. And that's just one of those examples of, like, this is challenging me, but I just don't know.
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Yeah. I'm curious whether this person is gonna name, like, a famous ghost or one from their personal life.
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I would say without a famous ghost attached to this conversation, I would say I love an old, old ghost. Rattling chains. Like, it's just so silly.
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Yeah. A classic where you're like, where'd you get those chains?
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Why. Why are you doing that? And why'd you tell your friends to do that?
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Yeah, I don't mind a ghost that's dripping with weeds and stuff from a. From the water. That's pretty good.
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A swamp.
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A swamp ghost.
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Also, do you become a ghost right when you die?
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Only some. Only some.
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Okay.
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I think you get the choice, maybe. And they.
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Are you making things up right now?
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Well, yeah, of course.
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Oh, yes, of course. Yes. And if I can.
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Yeah. The fact. The may fact is, when you die, you get a choice. And they say, do you want to be a ghost? And if so, do you want some chains? Or do you just want to do your own thing?
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Okay. Checking Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds on car insurance is smart. Unfortunately, not. Checking that you save your passwords onto your new computer is not smart. You don't want to be stuck clicking I forgot my password every time you want to log into. Well, anything.
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Yeah. Checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Should we hear let's hear Megan's answer.
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Let's hear Megan's answer. And Megan, I apologize. I just. I don't. I'm not attached to this ghost thing.
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My answer is no, because I have way too many and you get to listen to me list all of them. First is Timer from Ghostbusters. The Animated Series. Not the live action Beetlejuice from the Animated or the live action movie Animated Series. And then Marley from A Christmas Carol. But specifically the performance by Statler and Waldorf in the Muppet Christmas Carol.
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Oh my God.
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Ruth Willis in the Sixth Sense. I don't remember the character's name, but I do remember finding out he was the ghost and being shocked. Last. Casper. Just a legend.
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Yeah.
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Okay. I hope you loved my list. Thank you so much for answering my question.
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Absolutely. Megan.
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Megan's listed every famous ghost.
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Yes.
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I love the. The. The Muppet ghosts. That's true.
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Yeah.
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And. And Casper made number one, basically.
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Casper made number one. That sounds like waste. Like human waste. Made number. Oh.
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Made number one.
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Yes.
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Very good.
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Yes. Apologies for that addition. Yeah. I just do not feel attached to ghost stuff.
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Yeah. And then I, you know, if I was. If we had a ton of time, I'd want to dig into some of those that Megan listed and say, is Beetlejuice a ghost technically or is he a sort of demon that you summon? Like, you know, I'm. You're out. I don't care.
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Who cares? I don't care. And I'm sorry if I'm offending people that care about it. I just don't.
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Listen, there's something for everyone in this pod. You can send your lists of ghosts to me.
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And you're okay with me being honest? Do you think Megan is. Because she sounds like she would be open to me not caring.
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Oh, totally. I think in a way it's a badge of honor. People would be delighted by you not caring.
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Okay. All right. Well, May Martin, should we get one more question?
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Well, take Notaro. Yes, please.
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Thank you. Let's do it.
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Hey, Tig, May and Fortune, this is Kristen calling from North Carolina.
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Woo hoo.
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I just listened to one of your episodes and you said you love giving advice. So here's a twist on that. Let's say you were to meet yourself 10 years down the road. What advice would that 10 year older self give to each one of you?
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Like 10, like so. 64. Jesus. 64 year old Tig.
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Yeah.
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That's in 10 years, guys. 64 year old Tig. What advice would I give Tig, May.
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And Fortune or give yourself, I think. Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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Again, we're getting into the weeds with a whimsical question that requires some suspension of disbelief, but. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that is a. Okay. 10. I mean, in a way, that's just saying, what advice now do you need to hear?
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You know?
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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And for me, it's always, stop trying so hard. Wow. That came out of the depths of my soul.
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Well, that's good.
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Just in general, stop trying. So, like, just go lightly, you know? Let things roll and evolve and don't feel this, like, tension. Yeah. What about you?
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Well, I guess, like, to go back to what you're saying, are you. Are you saying, like, you. You need to have more of just faith in yourself?
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Yeah. And, like. Yeah, because I think the trying. The. The, like, trying and overthinking and stuff comes from, like, a fear of failure. Like, what'll happen if I don't. If I don't try this hard, that I'm, like, burning out, then I'm gonna lose it all. Like, instead of just trusting, you know, things will. What will be, will be. I don't know. That's a fine line.
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Mm. For sure.
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Gotta try a bit.
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For sure. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I like that.
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I'll probably spend more time with my parents, too. I mean, I see them a lot, considering we live in different cities, but I want to see him more. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's good. I would say. I think that the time that I spend with people, whether it's my friends, Stephanie, my family, Max and Finn, just to really prioritize that which I am in the process of doing, and in that time, to be present, more present than ever.
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Yeah.
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And it's, you know, so overstated. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Everyone needs to spend more quality time and be present. But, like, I really. You know, I have moments where I'm, like, I'm walking through my life doing things. I'm taking Max and Finn to baseball and picking them up from school and having dinner, and. And then I. You know, I'm always stopping and having to. My phone dings and. And I just. This morning, it bothered me when Finn was talking to me while I was returning an email, and I was like, hold on, hold on, Finn. Let me. Let me. Hold on. Let me. Let me respond to this. It just felt terrible.
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Right, right.
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And he patiently stood there and waited. There wasn't, like, a conflict, but inside of me, I was like, God, that feels so gross.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah, you're right. It's so easy to say, but it is the main thing, right?
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Yeah, it really is. And. And that when I'm. Because I took him to a doctor's appointment this morning, and just when we were waiting to go in, he had a question for me, and I'm like, hold. Hold on, Finn. Hold on. Let me. Let me just respond to this.
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Yeah.
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And he was like, okay. And then I was like, ugh. Yeah, I didn't like, ugh. I don't.
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Like.
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Not that I was saying it to him. Like, stop it. Let me finish it. It was just more of this distracted. Like, my phone buzzed, and it's like, why am I. I should just not. And I don't respond to everything all the time. As soon as it comes in, I'll definitely let things pile up and respond to it later. But I just. It was a reminder of less of that. Less of that.
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I used to really enjoy. Like, if I had a doctor's appointment and my. And my mom would take me or my dad, it would be a little outing, and you, like, get a snack and you chat and you listen to shit in the car on the radio, and it's just, like, a nice one on one time.
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Max and Finn love it. They have, like, a little special day because we go drop off one at school, and then the other one leaves with us to go to the doctor's appointment. And, yeah, we'll usually stop and go to the bookstore or get a bagel or something, and it ends up just being just a tiny, little special moment together. More of that.
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Should we hear Kristin's answer?
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I think we should.
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So my answer is, nurture your relationships. Life is short. Treat people with respect, kindness, and curiosity. That was my dog. He's out chasing deer. Love you all. Thank you for the love, light, and joy you bring into our lives every week.
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Love that. And also the sound of those crunching footsteps sounds like the opening of a true crime podcast. I'm walking through Des Moines, Iowa. Whatever.
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Yeah, Des Moines.
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Yeah, I love that. After my. I had my premiere of my show in Toronto, and afterwards, my friend just unexpectedly wrote me an email about it. And, you know, and people had texted or been like, congrats, but she sent me just the most thoughtful email. It was, like, three paragraphs, just, like, about our friendship, and it meant so much. And then I wrote back, and I was like, God, that makes. That little thing makes such a difference.
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Absolutely. It's so. It's so nice to take those moments and more of that, more of that, more of that.
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So next time I have to go to the dentist, will you take me and we'll have a little day?
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Yeah, I'll take you to the bookstore and. Yeah, yeah, take you to get a little blueberry bagel.
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Oh, I'd love it.
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And. And please keep sending in your questions, our handsome and pretty little listeners. Send them into speakpipe.com handsome pod and also share episodes that you like with people that you like and help build this handsome community.
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Yeah, we love hearing from you and we love you and each other and ourselves.
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That's true. And more special special time focus time with loved ones. And until next time, may welltig. Let's keep it pretty, pretty handsome.
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What a podcast. What a podcast. That was a hit gum podcast. Checking Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds on car insurance is smart. Unfortunately not. Checking that you updated your playlist is not smart. Your collection of super upbeat dance songs is fantastic, but probably not appropriate for the meditation group you're supposed to lead this afternoon.
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Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.
Release Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Tig Notaro, Mae Martin (with guests Megan & Kristen)
In this whimsical and conversational episode, comedians Tig Notaro and Mae Martin (with Fortune Feimster notably absent) riff on donation dilemmas, homeownership quirks, the escalating stakes of friendly games, and answer listener questions that range from favorite fictional ghosts to life advice from their future selves. The tone is characteristically silly, honest, and layered with their trademark dry humor, peppered with moments of thoughtful reflection and affectionate banter.
(01:02–02:06)
(02:23–05:01)
(05:57–09:12)
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Caller: Megan
Mae and Tig are delighted at the thoroughness of Megan’s list—and quip about the ranking process.
(16:49–22:25)
Caller: Kristen from North Carolina
“Nurture your relationships. Life is short. Treat people with respect, kindness, and curiosity… Love you all. Thank you for the love, light, and joy you bring into our lives every week.”
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Mae on family games:
“We’ve introduced money, and so we’ve got to take it… And I lose every time. So. Yeah. Now it's going to be darts for a while.” (04:18)
Tig on ghost apathy:
"They all fall in the same category of who gives a—. Oh, you heard it here." (11:08)
Mae on simplicity in friendships:
“I've never had a ‘Handsome’ dream. And I think that's because our relationship is very uncomplicated … It's a healthy relation.” (06:28)
Kristen’s succinct advice:
“Nurture your relationships. Life is short. Treat people with respect, kindness, and curiosity.” (22:00)
Tig on gratitude:
“It’s so nice to take those moments and more of that, more of that, more of that.” (23:03)
The episode maintains a light, meandering, and deeply personal comedic style, blending improv-like riffs on mundane details with sincere reflections on parenting, friendship, and presence. The hosts’ rapport is playful, with gentle teasing, self-deprecation, and moments of honest introspection. Audience interaction through questions continues to spark thoughtful and often hilarious musings, bringing heart and warmth even to their silliest topics.
“Pretty Little Episode #60” is quintessential “Handsome”: a mix of absurdist humor, compassionate advice, and the kind of friend-to-friend honesty that makes the mundane feel memorable. Whether discussing the merits of ghosts, the competitive dangers of foosball, or the importance of being present with those you love, Tig and Mae deliver fun, relatability, and a reminder to cherish life's little moments.