Pretty Little Episode #66

Summary

Handsome Podcast – Episode #66: Pretty Little Episode Released: November 21, 2025. Hosts: Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin (Tig Notaro absent), produced by Thomas Wuellette

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Episode Overview

This “Pretty Little Episode” of Handsome brings the show’s signature warmth and playful banter, focusing on holiday planning, the art of gift-giving, Disney character favorites (with distinct nonbinary and LGBTQ+ perspectives), and honest advice for navigating creative careers in your 20s. Fans phone in with questions about meaningful presents and identity, and Fortune and Mae reveal personal stories and lighthearted moments.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Catching Up: Chilly Weather, Foosball, and Family Holidays (00:35–06:49)

• Mae’s Foosball Fascination

  • Mae has been playing “a lot of foosball late into the night,” even watching documentaries on its WWII origins. She jokingly details:
    • “It was huge in Europe ... and then it’s like video killed the radio star. Once video game machines came in ... all those buildings became arcades.” (01:32–01:47)
  • Mae describes trash talking her friend during birthday foosball—using a “Debbie the hairdresser” persona for psychological edge.

• Thanksgiving Traditions

  • Fortune gears up to host her first full-family Thanksgiving since pre-COVID:
    • “I rented a house in my hometown ... everybody’s coming. You know, with my mom being sick, I’m just trying to make things a little more special when I can.” (03:49–04:33)
  • Fortune plans both Thanksgiving and her mother’s 80th birthday for memory-making.
  • Mae contemplates a Canadian-style “Friendsgiving,” since she misses her own family’s October Canadian Thanksgiving.
  • Hosting nostalgia: Fortune recounts broke 20s Friendsgiving where “Steve and I would be in charge of the turkey and drinks, and everybody else would bring the side dishes. ... Those are some of my favorite memories.” (05:37–06:12)

• Unusual Holiday Traditions

  • Mae brings up “Frozen Charlotte,” a hidden-figurine cake, sparking a reveal that Fortune is wary of “breaking a tooth.” (06:15–06:43)

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2. Listener Question: The Most Exciting Gift You’ve Ever Given (06:49–12:59)

Caller Abby from Illinois: “What’s the gift you were most excited to give someone else—maybe so much you nearly let the secret slip?”

• Mae’s Answers:

  • A custom “Zorg” T-shirt (an inside joke painting) for her friend Joe, arranged so everyone at Joe’s birthday wore them—even the bartender.
  • An Airbnb near a hospital for a stressed friend with a sick mom: “That felt good because it was practical and helpful.” (08:12–08:17)

• Fortune’s Answers:

  • A “nice coat” she bought a girlfriend, her “first adult classy gift” (08:38–09:36):
    • “I was so pumped about it ... she loved it ... and we broke up a month later. But she still has the coat.” (09:26)
  • Discussion on risky gifts—puppies (“That would be a tough present to buy someone”) and art (“I’ve heard you’re not supposed to buy people art because art is so subjective.” 10:22–10:31)

• Notable Quotes

  • Mae: “I’m just going over all the times I’ve given people art ... and then realizing I’ve never seen it in their home.” (10:31–10:37)
  • Fortune: “You might think it’s amazing, another person’s like, eh.” (10:37–10:46)

• Abby’s Own Answer: (10:53–11:36)

  • Surprise Taskmaster-themed birthday (including a sculpted head trophy)
  • Surprise tickets for Fortune's Indianapolis show: “If you air this before Christmas, you’ll actually get to be the ones to tell her about the surprise!” (11:31)

• Discussion: Comedy Tickets / Experience as Gifts

  • Fortune: “Every person that has come to my show who has gotten it as a gift is like, this was the best gift.” (12:05–12:22)
  • Mae: “There’s a nice community vibe there—people are friendly ... people make friends in the lineup for the bathroom.” (12:22–12:34)

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3. Listener Question: Favorite Disney Characters (13:39–17:42)

Caller Sam from Ohio: “Who’s your favorite Disney character and why? Especially interested in Mae’s answer, as many nonbinary friends have favorites.”

• Mae’s Answer:

  • Identifies with Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast: “Lumiere is kind of a nonbinary icon in my mind.” (14:34–14:39)
  • Loves oddballs and sidekicks: Abu (Aladdin), Sebastian (Little Mermaid), Flounder, Zazu (Lion King). “I always like the characters that aren’t involved with the love plot ... they’re the fun ones.” (14:52–15:01)
  • Trivia: “Do you know who did the voice of adult Simba? ... Matthew Broderick.” (16:05–16:07)

• Fortune’s Answer:

  • Favorite: Sebastian (The Little Mermaid): “Mine’s Sebastian,” then sings part of “Kiss the Girl” (15:16)
  • “The sidekicks are the funniest!” (15:36)
  • Teases upcoming character “Nibbles” from Zootopia 2, and reveals the hosts (Mae, Tig) also voice characters.

• Mae on Villains as Queer Icons:

  • “Ursula is a gay icon. All the villains are pretty gay ... Flotsam and Jetsam, her little eels. Jafar is pretty gay.” (16:26–16:32)
  • “I’m gonna go with Lumiere ... in terms of gender identity.” (16:44)

• Sam’s Own Answer:

  • “Peter Pan ... his energy and his zest for life ... super playful and silly. Apparently a lot of nonbinary folks love Peter Pan as well.” (17:42–18:03)
  • Mae: “Of course! Peter Pan. ... There’s definitely a queer vibe ... a cheeky little rebel.” (18:03–18:22)

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4. Listener Advice: Starting a Creative Career in Your 20s (18:31–22:57)

Caller Mira (from Durham, NC, now in Japan): “I just graduated college and moved to Japan for my first job, but I know I want to do something creative—art, theater. Where do you even start? It’s scary, you have to pay bills, and I feel time is running out...”

• Mae’s Advice:

  • “Get a day job adjacent to the arts so you’re around it ... I worked box office at a comedy venue.”
  • “Classes are great. ... You meet people who end up being collaborators. ... You could still have a day job and transition.” (20:55–21:08)
  • Be proactive: “You can go to a pub and book a night ... and make your own stuff.” (21:29–21:53)

• Fortune’s Advice:

  • “It’s always helpful having a focus ... hard when you don’t know what you want to do.”
  • “I was an entertainment journalist first ... talking to people, doing the thing I wanted to do, even if I wasn’t quite in it yet.”
  • “Take classes, get better in that field ... you just never know where that’ll lead.” (20:49–21:08)
  • “Set specific goals for what you want to hit.” (22:01)
  • Find a buddy: “Sometimes just going to shows is intimidating alone, but if you go with a friend you can tag-team and meet people.” (22:07–22:25)
  • “You don’t get to necessarily make money right away doing the thing you want to do. Sometimes you have to do just a job to pay the bills while still having that goal. ... Be patient.” (22:38–22:57)

• Supportive Note:

  • Mae: “Also, you’re young. Enjoy Japan!” (22:28–22:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Foosball: “It’s video killed the radio star. Once video game machines came in, all those buildings became arcades.” – Mae Martin (01:46)
• Making Holiday Memories: “I just don’t want to, you know, not do cool things with everybody when we can.” – Fortune Feimster (04:33)
• On Personal Gifts: “I’m just going over all the times I’ve given people art ... and then realizing I’ve never seen it in their home.” – Mae Martin (10:31)
• Disney Sidekicks: “I always like the characters that aren’t involved with the love plot ... they’re the fun ones.” – Mae Martin (14:58)
• Creating Your Path: “Sometimes life just happens, so just be patient with yourself.” – Fortune Feimster (22:38)
• Queer Disney Iconography: “Ursula is a gay icon. All the villains are pretty gay.” – Mae Martin (16:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Foosball, chilly weather, Friendsgiving nostalgia: 00:35–06:49
• Best gifts ever given (plus listeners): 06:49–12:59
• Disney favorites and queer-coded sidekicks: 13:39–17:42
• Creative career advice for unsure 20-somethings: 18:31–22:57

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Tone & Vibe

Relatable, funny, full of affection and gentle ribbing. The hosts are supportive, candid about struggles, and quick to find the humor and tenderness in daily life. The episode feels like a catch-up between old friends—which, for many listeners, it is.

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Conclusion

Another warm, witty episode of Handsome, blending light personal storytelling with substantive answers to heartfelt listener questions. The hosts champion meaningful experiences and community, sprinkle in gospel truths about following creative dreams, and celebrate the offbeat, the sidekick, and the queer-coded wherever they find it. This one is ideal for anyone seeking comfort, a laugh, or permission to try new things without fear.

Transcript

[May Martin]

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[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions and availability. All state North American insurance company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

[May Martin]

Friends on the Handsome Pod Chatting with.

[Fortune Feimster]

Friends on the Handsome part. Pretty little episode. Welcome to the Handsome pod. I am your host, Fortune Feenster.

[May Martin]

And I am your host, May Martin. And then Thomas is here too. Hello.

[Fortune Feimster]

We're keeping it handsome. Always. Can't help wear my handsome sweatpants all weekend.

[May Martin]

Oh, you did?

[Fortune Feimster]

I love them. They're my favorite. When it starts to get chilly outside, it's time for my handsome pants.

[May Martin]

God, I like when it gets a little chilly.

[Fortune Feimster]

Mm.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I've been playing a lot of foosball late into the night and wearing a jacket to do it. I don't know how I'm bringing up foosball in reference to, like, I'm shoehorning it in. I'm finding it's fun.

[Fortune Feimster]

You love foosball?

[May Martin]

I love it. And I started watching a documentary about the history of foosball, and it's fascinating.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah. It was in. In the Second World War, soldiers went to Europe and it was huge in Europe and like France and stuff. And they.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So they came over and brought it over here and then. And then it's like video killed the radio star once. Once video game machines came in.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

It just like eliminate all those buildings became arcades and anyway.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, wow.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, look at that. Another May packed.

[May Martin]

May packed. I was. It was my. My friend Matt who lives with me. It was his birthday yesterday, so obviously we're playing some foos. And then this trash talk character came out of me that was kind of like Debbie the. The hairdresser. Because every time he'd lose a point, I go, oh, and on his birthday too. Oh, isn't it a shame? The birthday boys. It was so. I don't know where it came from. It was so cruel.

[Fortune Feimster]

Did it get him off his game?

[May Martin]

Yeah, it really rattled him. The only he. He beats me every time. So the only way I can get in his head is trash talk. How are you? How are you?

[Fortune Feimster]

I'm good. I'm gearing up for Thanksgiving will be next week.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Now, I know obviously that's not a holiday you grew up with. I forgot. Do you. Now that you're in the States, do you do something for Thanksgiving?

[May Martin]

Well, we have it in Canada. It's just in a different month. Right. Thomas?

[Fortune Feimster]

Is.

[May Martin]

Is it. Yeah, it's in October. It's in October. And usually I do something for it, but maybe not this year. But. Yeah. Yeah. I think I should find somewhere and do, like, a friendsgiving.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. I love. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Because there's no pressure to give gifts. It's just.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I love that. I don't mind because I don't mind buying people gifts. I want people. People, you know, I want to be generous for sure. I just. I'm not always, like. I just don't always know what to buy people. So Christmas is a lot of pressure. Birthdays is way too much pressure because I have a good friend's birthday soon, and I'm just like, I have no idea what to get.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

For Thanksgiving, I'm excited because in the last. Gosh, since pre Covid, I have not had a holiday with my family.

[May Martin]

No way.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. I realized that I had seen my mom on Christmas Eve and. But just her. And then had flown out on Christmas day. We just started doing other things. And now a kid that I'm. It's me. I'm gathering my family. I rented a house in my hometown, and everybody's. All the family's coming because, you know, with my mom being sick, I'm just trying to make things a little more special when I can. We're also planning an 80th birthday party for her. Oh, my New year. Oh, my God.

[May Martin]

Yeah. You gotta make some memories. And just like.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I'm trying to make memories because, you know, hopefully she's around for a long time, but I just don't want to, you know, not do cool things with everybody when we can.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Oh, Thanksgiving will be fun. How many people are you gonna have?

[Fortune Feimster]

It'll be, like, 13 of us. Fun. Not all staying at this house, but. But eating together. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Fun.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Do you turkey me up?

[Fortune Feimster]

Does it. You're one of those people that, like, gets super tired.

[May Martin]

Yeah, but maybe I'm just one of those people that makes a big deal out of it. Like, oh, I've got a turkey. I'm tired.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. I don't feel like it does too much to me. I like to. I don't go too crazy on the Thanksgiving food. I eat a plate of it, and then I go for leftovers later that night.

[May Martin]

Leftovers are fucking good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Well, I don't. I don't. I. That makes me think I should host something at. At my place. I should make it a thing.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know. Well, you got the place now.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Friendsgiving is really fun, too. When I was in my 20s, I had two roommates, and my roommate Steve and I, who I just saw in Atlanta, he and I used to host friends givings at our house. And those are some of my favorite memories I've ever had. Cause I was too broke to fly home for Thanksgiving. It was too close to Christmas.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And I would fly home for Christmas. So the family would be. Christmas and then Friendsgiving, and we would all, like. Steve and I would be in charge of the turkey and drinks, and everybody else would bring the side dishes.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it's good.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's pretty fun. I think you should do it.

[May Martin]

Have you ever heard of a frozen charlotte?

[Fortune Feimster]

What's that?

[May Martin]

It's like they used to hide a little porcelain doll inside of a cake. And then if you get the. If you get the frozen Charlotte, you're. I guess, the king.

[Fortune Feimster]

I've heard of the king cake, which is a similar thing. It's a New Orleans thing.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I don't think we do enough hiding things in food.

[Fortune Feimster]

I mean, as long I would be too nervous to break a tooth.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that's true.

[Fortune Feimster]

I don't want to bite down on anything.

[May Martin]

Yeah, okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

I won't.

[May Martin]

I won't. I won't prank you.

[Fortune Feimster]

All right. I appreciate it. Well, let me know if you end up doing something.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Should we see what people want to know?

[Abby]

Hello, handsomes. This is Abby from Southern Illinois. And my question for you as we are getting closer to the holiday season, what is the gift that was your most favorite to give someone else? Like the one that you were so excited to give them that maybe you gave it early or you almost let the secret spill a million times.

[May Martin]

Ooh. Ooh, that's good. I mean, I have a. My. My friend Joe who wrote Feel Good With Me. He and I. I think I've talked about this before, that he. He did this painting called Zorg, and it's just this really grotesque face. And he just did it one night when we were hanging out and. And painting and forgot about it. But it's become like a. Like, I had T shirts made, and then I mail. I mailed them to his roommates, and so those presents are always my favorites. Like, on. On his birthday, he went to the pub and they had prearranged that like the bartender was wearing a Zorg T shirt.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Things like you. But also recently my. I have a friend who's. Whose mom is actually very sick and she's been really stressed and so I got her. I like got her an Airbnb really close to the hospital and her parents house.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

That felt good because it was like practical and helpful. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's really sweet.

[May Martin]

Yeah. What about you?

[Fortune Feimster]

I was trying to think like what present has stood out? Oh my gosh.

[May Martin]

It's like the always the more personal ones. Right. But right then that gets harder to do.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. There was one that came to mind. I'm not going to share that one.

[May Martin]

Okay.

[Fortune Feimster]

I did. I did date someone who I had never really bought like a nice. I had not been in a ton of serious stuff and this. Not that this was like super serious, but I really like this person. And I bought her a nice coat and my friend, my best friend helped me pick it out and I was so proud of this because it was like classy. Yeah. And I just had never given a woman a nice present like this before and it always. And I was just so pumped about it. And. And I think. And she loved it and I think we broke up like a month later. But she still has. She told me she still has the coat. Really?

[May Martin]

She still rocks.

[Fortune Feimster]

She still has it and loves it. So that makes. It was not a waste. It makes me feel good that she still enjoys it and that it's a fond memory for her too.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That's nice and romantic and it's. It's hard buying clothes for people.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh my. I never ever, ever do it. And yeah. And it was just something that happened to work and my friend nailed it with that one. And yeah, it just made me very like I felt like an adult for the first time of like, look at me. Nice present for someone.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, it'd be nice to get someone a puppy or something, but that's a big risk.

[Fortune Feimster]

You have to really know that. Yeah, they want that. You have to know that they want that. And you would have to know like a lot of like this is the breed and this is the. And they're up for it and. But man, that would be a tough present to buy someone. I also, I've heard you're not supposed to buy people art because art is so subjective.

[May Martin]

Oh really?

[Fortune Feimster]

Not so you can't have like I've had people had like pictures like painted of like Biggie or something. That's yeah. Adorable. But just like art in general. Okay.

[May Martin]

I'm just going over all. All the times I've given people art and. And then realizing I've never seen it in their home.

[Fortune Feimster]

Well, because, yeah, it's like, you might think it's like amazing. Another person's like, yeah, yeah. But you never know. Some people might love your. Your taste in art as well.

[May Martin]

Some people loved La La Land and I hated it. You know, and to each their own. Yeah. Let's hear Abby's answer.

[Abby]

My answer for that is I actually have two. Both going to the same person. My wife. The first would be one year for her birthday. I threw her a surprise taskmaster birthday May. I'm sure you appreciate that. And I actually sculpted her a life size trophy of Greg Davies head. The second gift would be that I actually, for Christmas this year, got her surprise tickets to go see Fortune in Indianapolis in January.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my gosh.

[Abby]

And if you guys air this before Christmas, you guys will actually get to be the ones to tell her about the surprise, which would be kind of fun too.

[Fortune Feimster]

Surprise. Surprise.

[Abby]

Thank you guys so much. And stay handsome.

[Fortune Feimster]

You are coming to Indianapolis, my friend.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Fortune Feimster]

Exciting.

[May Martin]

That's amazing. Like, experience gifts are always the best, so I love them. Let's just encourage people to buy comedy tickets all the time.

[Fortune Feimster]

I will say they. And I don't just say this because they're our shows, but it. Every person that has come to my show who has gotten it as a gift is like, this was the best gift.

[May Martin]

Oh, that's nice.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because you're with usually your friend or your partner, you know, on a date. And, and it's. And if it's a friend, they're. They've had a blast with each other. If it's a date that they feel connected to their partner, they're laughing. It's fun. I think it's such a great gift.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. And there's a nice. I don't. I think your shows are the same, but there's like a nice community vibe there. People are friendly and there's. I don't know, people make friends in the lineup for the bathroom and stuff. It's. Yeah. Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

It is like such a, A good vibe.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

So you'll. You'll leave. If you come to any our shows, you'll leave very happy.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That's a good surprise. I can see.

[Fortune Feimster]

And.

[May Martin]

And my taskmaster trophy is there. The big head.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's right. And that.

[May Martin]

I have a. I know a lot of people who do taskmaster themed Parties. Because it's so. It's so fun.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah. There's a board game, I think.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[May Martin]

Thanks, Abby.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. You know what's smart? Checking Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds on car insurance. You know what's not smart? Not checking that you packed your tripod before agreeing to make a video of your nephew's school play. Nobody warned you that the play was two hours long with no intermission and your arms are getting a little tired.

[May Martin]

Yeah, check in first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. Should we hear another one?

[Sam]

Hello, Tig, Mae and Fortune. My name is Sam. A handsome little they them from Hamilton, Ohio. First of all, I absolutely love the podcast. Second of all, Fortune, I'm coming to see you in Cincinnati in January and I cannot wait.

[Fortune Feimster]

Very cool.

[Sam]

My question for you guys, I'm not particularly a Disney fan, but I recently posted on social media a picture of myself in a costume as a Disney character. And a lot of my fellow non binary friends were like, oh, my God, that's my favorite character too. So I'm particularly interested in May's answer on this, but I'd love to hear from all three of you guys, who is your favorite Disney character and why? Thanks and love the show.

[May Martin]

Well, I really identify with Lumiere the candle and so. And usually in Disney movies because it's so gendered. The old ones at least, that I grew up with, usually there's some like inanimate object character or an animal of some kind that I. That I relate to heavily. So.

[Mira]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Okay. Because Lumiere is kind of a non binary icon in my mind.

[Fortune Feimster]

And a good singer.

[May Martin]

Great singer. So warm, so welcoming guests to be.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Who else? There's Abu the monkey from Aladdin.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I always like this. The. The like the characters that aren't involved with the love plot.

[May Martin]

Same.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because they're. They're the fun ones.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like in the Little Mermaid, the crab. What's his name?

[May Martin]

Oh, Sebastian.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Yeah. You see her floating there along the way. She don't got a lot to say something about her.

[May Martin]

Yes.

[Fortune Feimster]

And you don't know why, but you're dying to try. You wanna kiss a girl?

[May Martin]

Oh, you really know it.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, my God.

[May Martin]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flounder as well. I guess that's a little boy character, but yeah, yeah. The Crab Yago. The. Yeah. The sidekicks are the funniest.

[Fortune Feimster]

Always sidekicks are in the. In the Lion King. The. The Warthog.

[May Martin]

Yeah, the Warthog. And Zazu the Toucan. Well, I've never seen a king or beast with quite so little head.

[Fortune Feimster]

I want to be your mighty king. Never seen that.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Little hair.

[May Martin]

Do you know who did the voice of Adult Simba?

[Fortune Feimster]

No.

[May Martin]

Well, I'll tell you.

[Fortune Feimster]

Tell me.

[May Martin]

Matthew Broderick.

[Fortune Feimster]

Oh, really?

[May Martin]

Yeah. Good little trivia there.

[Fortune Feimster]

That is. There's so many good songs in that one. Means no worries for the rest of.

[May Martin]

Okay. I guess we need to do Disney karaoke one night.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yes, we do.

[May Martin]

Like little musical theater kids.

[Fortune Feimster]

A whole new world. Come on.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah. Come on.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then Ursula from Little Mermaid.

[May Martin]

Ursula is a gay icon. All the villains are pretty gay.

[Fortune Feimster]

Unfortunate. Yeah.

[May Martin]

And Flotsam and Jetsam, her little eels. Jafar is pretty gay. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Lumiere, though. In terms of gender identity, that's who I identify with.

[Fortune Feimster]

Mine's Sebastian from Full Mermaid.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I like that.

[Fortune Feimster]

But our new. Or I mean, not our. My soon to be favorite is nibbles from Zootopia 2.

[May Martin]

That's gonna be my favorite too. That's your character's name.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's my favorite character in Zootopia 2. And Zootopia 2 comes out. I can't remember if it's November 26th or 29th, but soon. It's soon.

[May Martin]

And you got all your handsome hosts in it.

[Fortune Feimster]

And all of you. All of us are in it. And my friend sent me a picture. His kid went to Pop Mart and there was already a. A figurine fig. The action figure thing of my Nibbles character.

[May Martin]

What? Already?

[Fortune Feimster]

Huh?

[May Martin]

That's insane.

[Fortune Feimster]

I was like, oh my gosh. This is so cool.

[May Martin]

I'm still hoping that we're going to be at the premiere together.

[Fortune Feimster]

I know. I'm trying to get off work. Yeah. But yeah.

[May Martin]

Should we hear Sam's answer?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[Sam]

My answer is Peter Pan. There's just something about his energy and his zest for life and his enthusiasm of like being playful and silly that I just really love. I'm very playful and silly myself. So very fun. And yeah, apparently a lot of other non binary folks love Peter Pan as well. So there you go. Thanks, guys.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I completely. For. Of course. Peter Pan. I want to be so badly. And yeah, there's definitely like a queer vibe about. About Peter. Like a sort of cheeky little.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

I could totally see you playing Peter Pan.

[May Martin]

I would love to play Peter Pan.

[Fortune Feimster]

That would be fun.

[May Martin]

I'd want to play him as kind of a rebel.

[Fortune Feimster]

Like, next project.

[May Martin]

Tortured. Yeah, let's hear another one.

[Mira]

Hello, May Fortune and Tig. This is Mira. I am a handsome listener, Pretty little lady, originally from Durham, North Carolina. And I am a big fan of the POD and you three individually. And I am sending it a message today asking for some advice.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yes.

[Mira]

I have just graduated College. I am 23, and I have moved 7,000 miles away from my home on the east coast to Japan, where I'm working my first real job. And I am coming to terms with the fact that I think what I want to do with my life is do creative things, art things, theater things. And I'm 23 and life is a bit messy, and it's just like, ah, like, where do I start? Like, how do you start? You know, you're supposed to do something, but it's scary and you need a job and you have to make money and my time is running out. But. Yeah. So how do you start? That's my question.

[May Martin]

Oh, man, that's a great question. How cool that you're in Japan and, like, you know, finding yourself. And I guess I'm assuming that what. What you did in college isn't in the arts. And this is like a revelation, I think. I mean, it depends what aspect of the arts. But for me, like, I got a job in a box office of a comedy venue, working in the box office, and. And just went to see stuff as much as I can. So I was in the, like, immersed in the world of it, like getting an adjacent day job, you know, so that you're around it. That could be good. What about you? What do you think?

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, I mean, well, it's always helpful having a focus, like, if, you know, like, this is the field I want to be in. I'm not sure exactly how to get there, but, like, this is the goal. It's. I think it's harder when you. It's like, I don't know what I want to do. Then it's like, where do you even begin? So I think narrowing it down in that way is good.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah. Getting an adjacent job is helpful. I was an entertainment journalist first, and I knew, like, this is not what I want to do, but I'm in the business talking to people, doing the thing I want to do.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

So I can, like, pick their brain. I can learn more about the business in. In a way where, like, I understand it, but I don't have the Opportunity yet to be in it, but this is a way to like, be around it.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And then I took class. A lot of classes.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's the thing. Get better in that field.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Classes are you, you meet people that end up becoming your peers and colleagues and collaborators. Like, you meet your cohort and you could still have a day job for a bit, but be taking classes and transitioning.

[Fortune Feimster]

Because if you took some sort of class in the arts, you know, maybe like, oh, that person ends up knowing this person. Oh, this art company is looking for this, or this person's needs help with their project. I mean, then you're meeting other people that are like, like minded in that world and you just never know where that will lead.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And I think, like, I think acting's particularly hard because you're, it's reliant on other people giving you work and auditioning and stuff. But some of the other ones, like, I, I, you can make your own. You can like go to a pub and say, I want to book the venue one night in six months and then advertise and have a night. Like, you can be proactive and make your own stuff.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

So maybe that's. Is that advice?

[Fortune Feimster]

I think so.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And also just set, I think just setting goals in general.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

With specific goals you want to hit can help you work towards something.

[May Martin]

Yeah. And find a buddy who also wants to get into it. And then you guys can go and see stuff together and go. And. Because sometimes if you're like, oh, I want to do comedy, so I'm going to go see a bunch of shows. It's intimidating just hanging out afterwards by yourself and trying to meet people. But if you go with someone, you can, you can tag team people.

[Fortune Feimster]

For sure.

[May Martin]

Love it. Mirror.

[Fortune Feimster]

Love it. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Also, you're young. Enjoy Japan.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah, for sure. I, I don't think there's any press to figure it out yet. No, man, you got to pay your bills, obviously. That's, you know.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And honestly, you don't get to necessarily make money right away doing the thing you want to do. Sometimes you have to do just a job to pay the bills while still having that goal of these other things. Sometimes life just happens. So just be patient with yourself. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Big time. That was, that was lovely.

[Fortune Feimster]

It was lovely. We want people to keep sending us questions, advice, whatever you want. Speakpipe.com HandsomePod don't forget to get some handsome merch for these holidays coming up.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

And some tickets to shows. Mae's going on tour. I'm on tour. Please ticks doing a bunch of shows.

[May Martin]

So yeah, and maybe write a little card for Thomas too.

[Fortune Feimster]

That's right, write a little card for Thomas. And I hope everyone has a great holiday. We'll talk to people before then in our right either episode. But yeah, just a time to be thankful. And I'm thankful for you and I'm thankful for you and for the pod and for everyone that listens. And yes, until next time, keep it pretty. Handsome Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro, and May Martin. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Wuellette. Email [e-mail] and follow us on social media at handsomepod. What a podcast.

[Mira]

What a podcast.

[May Martin]

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[Fortune Feimster]

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