Pretty Little Episode #75

Summary

Handsome – “Pretty Little Episode #75”

Date: January 23, 2026
Hosts: Tig Notaro, Fortune Feimster, Mae Martin
Producer: Thomas Ouellette

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Handsome" finds the hosts—Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune Feimster—up extra early (7:00 am!) for a hilarious, meandering catch-up before they dive into listener questions. Topics range from bizarre dreams and metal detecting aspirations to earworm songs and the ethics of sharing on social media. Throughout, their blend of gentle teasing, self-deprecation, and genuine warmth sets the tone for another engaging, “pretty little” episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Early Morning Vibes & Dream Talk

(00:46 – 04:43)

Setting: The group records at 7:00am, and they’re collectively in a funny, groggy mood:

• Tig reveals she’s headed to New York for the Star Trek premiere, press, and awards—a chaotic schedule:

  “It’s like pure insanity, what I’m about to go away into this week… Normally it’s just crazy press for one thing. And it overlaps for two.” – Tig Notaro (01:44)

• Mae details a sleepless night, a rush for coffee delivery, and shares a bizarre dream about forgetting how to have sex and navigating a house party full of “hot people.”
• Tig and Thomas Ouellette (the show's producer) admit they both dreamed about each other, referencing podcast tasks and, in Tig's case, hand sanitizer wipes—anxieties rooted in real-life germ obsessions.
• Tig is affectionately teased by her family for her germaphobe routines, finding joy in “being made fun of behind my back.” (05:37)

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Mae’s Metal Detector Adventure

(05:46 – 09:03)

• Mae confesses she’s ordered a metal detector, joking about the “crossover into pure nerd.”
• The hosts riff on where to use it (beach vs. Mae’s 120-year-old house), the potential embarrassment of running into her ex at the beach, and the hilarity of going “in disguise.”

  “I could disguise myself. Put a hat on, a mustache, whatever. You’re not concerned about that?” – Tig Notaro (07:37)

• Tig imagines her kids Max and Finn would be into it, providing a segue into Max’s dual interests in science and comedy, specifically his spot-on "Family Guy" and "pro football referee" impressions.

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Jeff Buckley, Antiques & Song Earworms

(09:54 – 15:58)

• Mae brings up a Jeff Buckley documentary, lamenting not having discovered him earlier and marveling at his rendition of “Hallelujah.”

  “I don’t know how I didn’t... I was never deeply into him.... What a beautiful man.” – Mae Martin (10:12 & 10:29)

• Listener Ken sends in a voice message about the relentless catchiness of the “Handsome” podcast theme song, sparking a discussion of songs that get stuck in your head ("earworms").
• Tig often sings “Please Don’t Go” around the house, while Mae confesses hers is “Edelweiss” from The Sound of Music plus “It’s Been One Week” by Barenaked Ladies.

  “It’s been! ... When does this come out, Thomas? ... I’m hosting a Canadian event… if they’re going to be there, I might just say it every time I look at them.” – Mae Martin (14:52 & 15:00)

• Multiple lighthearted attempts at singing the “It’s Been” intro and references to Canadian radio culture.

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Listener Question: Engaging on Social Media

(16:10 – 23:53)

Danielle from Tulsa asks: How much should I share on social media? Am I a hypocrite for not posting activist content, or is it OK to stick to “pictures of my pets, son, and poetry?”

Hosts’ Reflections:

• Mae: Shares her struggle, especially as someone pursuing US residency: she’s advised to be careful on social media. She voices concern about being “not saying enough,” but also expresses hesitancy due to social media’s “garbage can” vibe.

  “I always feel like I’m not saying enough, basically ... social media is ... a garbage can.” — Mae Martin (18:36)

• Tig: Notes the oddness of posting in general, questioning whom it really benefits. She points out there’s a difference between online activism and actual, tangible action.

  “You start living in a world sometimes thinking that everybody is on all the time and that this is how they’re only getting their information.” – Tig Notaro (20:58)

• Mae: Highlights the pressure and fear that can paralyze people trying to do the right thing online, referencing her own experience with well-intentioned posts receiving criticism from all sides.

  “This is what stops people from doing anything. ... It’s so scary. You think you’re gonna get in trouble for doing the wrong thing.” – Mae Martin (22:35)

• The consensus: Do what feels right; online is not the only way to make a difference. Real activism happens offline, too—through voting, volunteering, donating, and engaging in the real world.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There's nothing better than being, like, really seen by the people you love. Like, really observed and—”
  “And lovingly... and made fun of behind my back is what brought me the most joy.”
  – Mae Martin & Tig Notaro (05:30)

• “I ordered a metal detector.... I’m worried I’ve crossed over into pure nerd.”
  – Mae Martin (06:04)

• “My kids and Stephanie were both making fun of me yesterday about my germ issues, and they were all imitating me, the way they imitate me behind my back. ... It was making me laugh so hard.”
  – Tig Notaro (05:25)

• “I always feel like I’m not saying enough, basically. But I don’t know. I also think social media is... it’s a garbage can. Yes.”
  – Mae Martin (18:36)

• “Who is this for? Who am I talking to? ... It’s so odd.”
  – Tig Notaro (18:37)

• “Do what feels right in the moment.”
  – Fortune Feimster & Mae Martin (22:45)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:46] – Early morning and “why are we up this early?”
• [02:55] – Dream recap segment—Mae’s and Tig/Thomas’s dreams
• [05:46] – Metal detector confession
• [09:54] – Max’s impressions and Jeff Buckley documentary
• [10:43] – Listener Ken’s question: catchiest songs
• [16:10] – Listener Danielle’s question: Should I share more activism on social media?
• [20:58] – “Living online” commentary from Tig
• [22:35] – Online criticism and activist paralysis
• [23:20] – Real activism: voting, boycotts, tangible engagement

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Conclusion

This quick, rambling, and warm episode perfectly showcases the “Handsome” formula: personal quirks, unexpected stories, and frank but caring advice interwoven with self-aware hilarity. The hosts offer reassurance on the complexities of participant activism online, laugh about their own idiosyncrasies, and share musical and pop-culture obsessions—all before most people have had breakfast.

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For more episodes and to submit questions:
speakpipe.com/handsomepod

Tig Notaro’s tour info: tignotaro.com
Mae Martin’s tour/music: maymartin.net & Netflix’s Wayward

Keep it pretty. Keep it handsome.

Transcript

[Fortune Feimster]

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[Tig Notaro]

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[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

Good morning and hello. At whatever time of day it is where you are. This is Tig Notaro sitting here with May Martin. Yes. Okay, I gave it away. We're recording very early in the morning on this day.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I haven't spoken out loud yet.

[Tig Notaro]

Today and I haven't shaved yet.

[May Martin]

Yeah, clearly.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah. This is. We figured out the earliest we have ever recorded. 7:00am Yeah, 7:00am yeah. I have to fly away today.

[May Martin]

Where are you? Where are you off to?

[Tig Notaro]

I'm off to New York. And in a crazy twist of life, the Star Trek premiere is overlapping with massive press for not just the premiere, but the documentary in the same week.

[May Martin]

Oh, no way. In New York.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. And award shows as well.

[May Martin]

Jesus.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. So it's like pure insanity, what I'm about to go away into this week. Normally it's just crazy press, for one thing. And it overlaps for two.

[May Martin]

When they send you those schedules for the upcoming days and you're like, this is not feasible.

[Tig Notaro]

I can't even think about it. When I look at my calendar, I just.

[May Martin]

One foot in front of the other. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

I'm like, well, somebody will pick me up, drop me off there. I'll be moved to this. I can't even think about it. I glance at that and never look at it again when I fly out and do something like this. Anyway, thanks. Thanks for getting up to record.

[May Martin]

Hey, it's been, it's been a whirlwind. I, I, I got in bed, maybe 11:30. I was like, this is fun. And then couldn't really sleep. And then remembered at about 12:30, I have no coffee in the home. And I was like, oh, no. And so I pre ordered for delivery a coffee. And then it was like nail biting watching the clock. It got here at like 7:01. I ran out to get it. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[Fortune Feimster]

Wow.

[May Martin]

And then I couldn't sleep. And I dreamed that I'd forgotten how to have Sex.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, I don't think that's the case. Yeah. Thomas is shaking his head wildly. No, we believe in you, little cowboy.

[May Martin]

Thank you. I got it.

[Fortune Feimster]

It's.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I dreamed that there was this huge house party at my house, and. But my childhood home, of course. And then hundreds of people, and I kept walking around going, there's so many hot people here. There's tons of hot people. And I didn't know what to do with it. And I was like, how do I make a move? Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

That's so funny. Now, I had a dream, but very different.

[May Martin]

Oh, tell me.

[Tig Notaro]

It was about Thomas.

[May Martin]

No, I dreamed about you guys.

[Thomas Ouellette]

I was dreaming about, like, missing the podcast.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God, that's hilarious. Wow. Two against one. May is over there just dreaming about sex, and then you and I are dreaming about each other. Yeah. I had a dream that Thomas had found these, like, organic, all natural hand sanitizer wipes that were individually packaged. And. And he had come over. Oh, I had told. I was like, oh, I like these. Where'd you get this? And he was like, oh, I don't know. And then he had come over and brought a whole box of them and placed them in my pantry, like, standing up against food. So when I walked in the pantry, I saw all these little individually packaged hand sanitizer wipes.

[May Martin]

That's really funny.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Is that a new sponsor, Thomas?

[Thomas Ouellette]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

That's amazing.

[Tig Notaro]

I know. I think it happened. Yes. I wanted to. What I meant to say is thank you for that. I think that happened because my family, my kids and Stephanie were both making fun of me yesterday about my germ issues, and they were all imitating me, the way they imitate me behind my back. And I got. Yeah. I was like, you guys talk about this and do this with each other. And they're like, yeah, this is how you open a. A door. This is how, like, if we're in a public bathroom, what you do.

[May Martin]

This is.

[Tig Notaro]

And then. Oh, my God, it was making me laugh so hard.

[May Martin]

There's nothing better than being, like, really seen by the people you love. Like, really observed and.

[Tig Notaro]

And lovingly, I was going to say, and made fun of behind my back is what brought me the most joy. Yeah.

[May Martin]

Yeah. Well, I. When you said Thomas had found it made me think of this that I'm really excited about. But also I'm worried that I've, like, crossed over into pure nerd. I. I ordered a metal detector.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yes, you did. You did cross over.

[May Martin]

It happened, right?

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, there goes May.

[May Martin]

There I go.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, there you go. But that is also the dream of every person up until, I was going to say a certain age. And I'm assuming that's 38, 39.

[May Martin]

Well, Sabrina, how old are you? 38. Yeah, our, our friend Sabrina said, oh, that was on Wolfie's Christmas list this year and we didn't get it. He's. He's seven and. But so I'm going to take.

[Tig Notaro]

You're not.

[May Martin]

I'm definitely not.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

But now at least I know I have someone else interested in it in my life. I'm thinking, do I either go to the beach or do I go just around my house? My house is 120 years old. I might find a coin.

[Tig Notaro]

I would return it.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, I would go return it. No, it sounds fun. The beach, maybe.

[May Martin]

Yeah, beach or like, I mean, I wish there were like some ancient castles or something, but yeah, beach is probably the best bet. I just want to get some, some people's lost wedding rings and stuff. I mean, really what I want is antiques and relics. But if I'm on the beach and I'm finding rings, jewels. Sure.

[Tig Notaro]

And you. What about an antique store?

[May Martin]

Yeah, I could. Yeah, I could hit that up.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's possible. But you also. You would. And maybe this might. I'm projecting my own embarrassment of actually.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Walking around with a metal detector. Yeah. But I, if I did that, I would have to go do it on the beach because that's where people do that.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

And you could, you could disguise, like. I'm thinking I could disguise myself. Put a hat on, a mustache, whatever. You're not, you're not concerned about that?

[May Martin]

Well, I'm a little. I'm. Listen, you know, my ex lives by the beach. What if I bump into. That would be really embarrassing. If I'm.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my gosh. Yes.

[May Martin]

Oh, I'm scared. I know a lot of people that live down in, you know, Santa Monica.

[Tig Notaro]

Go at an odd time that, you know that your ex won't be at the beach.

[May Martin]

Right, right. You know, yeah, I'll go. And it'll end up being like singles day at the beach and.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, that'll work out for you as long as you can remember how to have sex.

[May Martin]

I want. I'll have my, my pants pulled up high in my little yes, you absolutely hat on.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Well, then everyone will know it's you.

[May Martin]

Yeah, that's true.

[Tig Notaro]

But that's great for singles day.

[May Martin]

Yeah, you're right.

[Tig Notaro]

Everyone's. There's. There's maybe.

[May Martin]

Yeah, I'll let you Know if I find anything, though, I feel like Max and Finn would be into metal detecting.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, I think so.

[May Martin]

Yeah. That'd be fun. Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Maybe I'll, I'll show him.

[Tig Notaro]

Max is becoming quite the. He's. It's really going to be interesting to see what he's gonna do in life because he is so equally interested in science as he is in comedy. And he does impressions like nobody's business.

[May Martin]

Really.

[Tig Notaro]

It's really impressive. And he has the jokes to go along with it. It's really something.

[May Martin]

Who are his top impressions?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, you know, he's, he's nine. He, he does a lot of south park and Family Guy. And the new, the new addition is pro football referee. Oh. Delivery of all of the calls. And he does the wrong hand gestures, but horse fins over there going, no, no, Max, you, you actually, you grab your wrist and then you. And then. But we were like, it doesn't matter. It makes it even better that he's doing the wrong hand gesture, but his delivery and his voice when he does it is really something.

[May Martin]

Oh, maybe he'll do both science and he'll be Bill Nye the science guy.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe.

[May Martin]

So I thought about you the other day because I watched. I, I imagine that you're into Jeff Buckley or you.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, yeah.

[May Martin]

So I watched this.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, the documentary.

[May Martin]

Have you seen it?

[Tig Notaro]

Not.

[May Martin]

You gotta watch it. It was, I mean, his. I don't know how I didn't. I was never deeply into him.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, you weren't?

[May Martin]

He seems.

[Tig Notaro]

Right. He seems like you, you were born for him.

[May Martin]

Yeah, he's totally. I'm obsessed. I mean, I, I, I bet I like the album. But watching his, like, vocal performances and him singing Hallelujah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Oh, my God.

[Tig Notaro]

I know, I know it.

[May Martin]

What a beautiful man.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes.

[May Martin]

Well, those are our morning thoughts.

[Tig Notaro]

They are. Those are our morning thoughts. And should we get into other people's thoughts, whatever time zone they're in or day.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Headspace.

[Thomas Ouellette]

Hello, handsomes. My name is Ken. I am from Portland, Oregon, and I just had to record a message for you to say that I kind of hate you right now because I got the handsome bands and songs stuck in my head for several days now. I love the song. It's super cute, and it just won't leave my head. So my question is, what songs do y' all get stuck in your head?

[May Martin]

Thanks for everything, Ken. Thank you. I was just saying, Ken, thank you.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, Oh, I thought you were saying can, like, see it? Like, can, can, can we? Yes. Thank you, Ken. It Is so catchy. It's the only thing that's in my head now.

[May Martin]

Really?

[Tig Notaro]

It's catchier than Jeff Buckley.

[May Martin]

Oh, my Lord. I. I get the theme song. The handsome theme song. Stuck in my head for sure.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God. Not.

[May Martin]

Not holiday.

[Tig Notaro]

Holiday wishes. I mean, that's like the greatest song ever. While we wash the dishes.

[May Martin]

I mean, this is Thomas's creation. Yeah, it is very, very catchy. But what. Yeah, what are your, like, earworm songs that you sing around the house?

[Tig Notaro]

Well, you know what we. What I sing a lot around the house is that I love you so.

[May Martin]

Oh, what's that?

[Tig Notaro]

And I want you to know gonna miss your love.

[May Martin]

Oh, don't know it.

[Tig Notaro]

You walk out, you don't know that.

[May Martin]

Nobody.

[Tig Notaro]

Please don't go.

[May Martin]

Oh, yeah. Please don't go.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Because say to Stephanie, Max, Finn and all of Kitty City, or as I've mentioned, the exhausted sausages, I always say, oh, I love you so. Oh, I love you so. And. And then it kicks me into Babe.

[May Martin]

I love you so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

That's not stuck in your head, that's for sure.

[May Martin]

No, I mean, I don't know then what this says about my life, that this is the one that's stuck in my head. But it's Edelweiss from I'm often singing.

[Tig Notaro]

Well, that plus your metal detectorama.

[May Martin]

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[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

[May Martin]

And sometimes I. Also that one from Sound of Music that goes, somewhere in my wicked, miserable past, I must have done something good. You know that one? I see where you are standing there loving me whether or not you should.

[Tig Notaro]

Reminds me of when you were singing Eggs for Breakfast. Who wants some eggs for breakfast? Who needs them? What is this song?

[May Martin]

How do you like your eyes in the morning? You know that Bare Naked lady song that goes. It's been one week.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[May Martin]

It's been in my head all the time.

[Tig Notaro]

That's hilarious. That is such a great intro to a song like. And I'm sure they had no idea. It would be so. Such a. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Those two words. Yeah. It's been. You do it really well.

[May Martin]

Thank you.

[Tig Notaro]

Please do it again.

[May Martin]

Now I'm nervous.

[Tig Notaro]

You're overthinking it. You're overthinking it.

[May Martin]

Yeah, it's been. Wait.

[Tig Notaro]

You did it. You did it. You did it. Yes. Yes. And they're Canadian, right? Yeah.

[May Martin]

And I'm hosting the. When does this come out, Thomas? January 23rd. Oh, can't say. Okay, well, I'm. I'm hosting a Canadian event, and I'm hoping that they're going to be there, and I'm thinking I might say yes when on stage. Just maybe every time I look at them.

[Tig Notaro]

That's so great. It's been one week. I don't hear that on the radio much. No, I'm also not listening to the radio much.

[May Martin]

Or in Canada. It's every second song in Canada is. And now we know we played it 20 minutes ago, but.

[Tig Notaro]

Oh, my God, May you ruin my life again. I can't believe Ken had no answer. How dare you think you're mad at us, Ken, we're furious. Next question.

[May Martin]

Yeah, let's hear.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, Man. Was that pretty good?

[May Martin]

That was really good.

[Tig Notaro]

It's been, Thomas.

[Thomas Ouellette]

It's been.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah, it's okay. All right, what's our next question? Yes, then.

[May Martin]

Yes, man.

[Fortune Feimster]

Hi, Fortune, May and Tig, this is Danielle in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Tig, I saw you last time you were in Tulsa, and you were a light in a very dark time for me, and I've always wanted to say thank you. I would like some advice from you. My question is, how much should I share on social media? The more things happen in the world, the more I wonder if I'm being hypocritical or cowardly by not speaking out on social media. I decided a long time ago not to be a keyboard warrior. I don't hide my beliefs, and I'm happy to have conversations with people in person, but I feel like arguing online is not productive. I wonder if I should speak out more. I wonder if I should stay more online, though, and. Or if it's okay for me to just continue sharing pictures of my pets and my son and poetry. So what do you think? What's your advice? Thank you. I love you all and I love listening to your podcast. Bye.

[Tig Notaro]

Bye. Well, thanks for coming to the show when I was in Tulsa. I don't know if you've heard me mention this, but I love Tulsa. Really, I do. It's such a cool little city. It's so cool. Yeah. I don't imagine. I couldn't. I couldn't picture you saying, oh, yeah, I love Tulsa. Yeah, let's win. Yeah, I. Do you have any immediate feelings? I. I have some.

[May Martin]

I struggle with it as well. I mean, yeah, it's confusing. I kind of go on a day by day basis. If something compels me, then. But also, I'm in a tricky position right now because I'm waiting on a green card to come through, and I'm genuinely worried about, you know, getting it. Yeah. They tell you not to. That they're gonna look at your social media, which is so insane. But I don't know, I'm posting quite a bit. Yeah. I feel some responsibility if I can share specific resources or like, direct people to other people who are better informed than me or, you know, you have to know your limits as well. And. But I just. I off. I always feel like I'm not saying enough, basically. But I don't know. I also think social media is. It's like garbage can. Yes. It's so tough. But yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

What about you?

[Tig Notaro]

I mean, I mean, I'll do the same every now and then I'll. I'll share something, but I think in general, just sharing in general, I have moments where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna say this, or I'm gonna post this or whatever it is. And then when I do, I'm like, what am I doing? Like, who is this for? Who am I talking to? What am I? You know what I mean? Like, I. I just. It's so odd.

[May Martin]

It's like part of it, I feel like, is about making sure that your followers and the people that support you and watch your comedy, you know, where you stand on some things. Like, there's. There's an element of that, of like. Yeah, it's definitely confusing.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah. I just feel like there's also. There's a lot of people that solely live online, and the extent of their activism is just posting things. And that's not to say that's not great, but how many of those people are actually getting out and. And doing something, you know, and like boots on the ground, doing something, making calls, lobbying, protesting.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

I think that when people. The trap that happens sometimes is that people that live pretty exclusively online see that as like the real and only world. I remember years ago, something happened with somebody in the comedy community, and maybe I've shared this before, but I don't really ever. I have a Facebook account, but I don't ever Go on. That my assistant posts things on there, but I went on because somebody had died or I didn't know it had happened. I was something. Something. I went on and I saw somebody else from the comedy community saying, if any of you are still following this person who did this thing to this other person, unfollow me and unfriend me in real life and bought and I, and I. It just really struck me where I was like, God, you're making the assumption that, yeah, I'm on here as much as you are.

[May Martin]

Right.

[Tig Notaro]

And that I've gotten all your. Not that he was writing it solely to me, but it's this. You start living in a world sometimes thinking that everybody is on all the time and that this is how they're only getting their information. This is how they're only sharing information. I know. It just becomes. It just really struck me that time that I saw that post, I was like, God, if I hadn't even come on to Facebook, I wouldn't have even known about this thing that was going on, you know? Yeah.

[May Martin]

There have definitely been moments where it feels like, yeah, everyone's keeping track of who's not posting a certain thing or. Yeah. In a way that's really paralyzing and, and, and insane because, yeah. You don't know what people are doing in their, in their private life. I, I try to post like calls to action more than like commentary and, and yeah. Donate and volunteer and stuff. But I don't know, I do feel, I mean, increasingly I do feel like some. I don't know what to do about America about. And. Yeah. And, and Gaza and. Yeah. So I'm, I'm trying to do more, but it's like, even when I, I think I've said, when I posted like about the animal paintings and selling those, I got, I got flack from like left wing people who were like, hey, you should have done this sooner. But it took me a year to get it set up. And then also people being like, well, you know, you should send it to the money to private families there instead of to an ngo. And it's like, oh, man, this is what, this is what stops people from doing anything. Because it's so scary. You think you're gonna get in trouble for doing the wrong thing. So I, I think you gotta just.

[Tig Notaro]

It is very paralyzing.

[Fortune Feimster]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

Do what feels right in the moment.

[Tig Notaro]

Yeah.

[May Martin]

But we do for sure have a platform that is useful, so. But then you want to also spread joy and not alienate people. But I don't know. Oh, God, what am I? It's early.

[Tig Notaro]

It's 7:00am yeah, it's 7:00am it's almost 7:30. But I stand by everything we said.

[May Martin]

Do you?

[Tig Notaro]

I do. I do. It's tricky and, and social media is definitely a tool and a way to. To be helpful, but it's also a way to be hurtful. And it's also not the only way.

[May Martin]

Yeah. I mean, the main thing we need to do really is get people to vote and then. And then lawmakers will make change and, or.

[Tig Notaro]

And boycott.

[May Martin]

And boycott.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, yes. I mean, that's a massive thing. But that goes back to sharing outlets. Yes.

[May Martin]

Specific resources and stuff. But man, yeah, let's get people more politically engaged because then the actual politicians we elect will do their job.

[Tig Notaro]

And you can also be politically engaged in so many other areas.

[May Martin]

Yeah.

[Tig Notaro]

Not, you know, it, but again, it's complicated. Anyway, thank you, Danielle. Thank you, Ken. And everybody listening. Please submit your questions and advice requests to speak pipe.com handsome pod.

[May Martin]

Please, please do.

[Tig Notaro]

Yes, please do. And also please come see me on Tour. Go to tignotaro.com for all of my show information, ticket links, and keep in mind that some dates are going to change. Some. Some cities will be added. And what about you?

[May Martin]

May I have. If you go to maymartin.net my tour is up there. Or check out Wayward on Netflix, please. Or stream my music. Actually, I'm trying to get more people to listen my music. That'd be amazing.

[Tig Notaro]

You're a real talent, kid.

[May Martin]

Thank you. Thanks. I'm writing some new tunes.

[Tig Notaro]

Awesome.

[May Martin]

Well, I guess all that remains is to keep it pretty.

[Tig Notaro]

Handsome Handsome Handsome is hosted by me, Fortune Feimster, Tig Notaro and May Martin. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Ouellette. Email [e-mail] and follow us on social media. Ansomepod.

[May Martin]

What a podcast. What a podcast.

[Tig Notaro]

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