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Gretchen
Hello, we're here for More Happier, a podcast where we get happier. It is the weekend we are kicking back it's observations and reflections with a looser vibe. Hey, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth
Hey, Gretch.
Gretchen
Today we'll check in with how we're doing with our Move 26 challenge. And I cannot wait to describe my friend's brilliant April Fool's Day prank of her husband. Oh, my gosh, Elizabeth, I've been wanting to tell you about this prank.
Elizabeth
I can't wait to hear it.
Gretchen
Okay, but first, something making us happier. Elizabeth, What? Is something making you happier?
Elizabeth
Okay, well, Gretch, Sarah and I over on Happier in Hollywood are doing what we're calling Mimzy May, which is just whimsy may. But we like alliteration, so we're calling it Mimsy May, where we're trying to put more whimsy into our lives for the entire month of May. And it's making me happier. One because I'm putting whimsy into my own life. But also, our listeners have been letting us know what they do that's whimsical, which is just super fun to hear about.
Gretchen
Well, I don't know if you realize how on trend you are. I get that thing about Google trends, and whimsy has appeared again and again. Whimsy is having a moment. People are really embracing the whimsy.
Elizabeth
Yes. So Sarah and I are doing things like getting our fingernails painted, wearing whimsical nightwear. I'm using my weekend China mugs that I use during the week.
Gretchen
Oh, edgy.
Elizabeth
I just found in my closet some of my old Smurfs, a couple of old Smurfs that I'd saved. Do you remember Smurfs? Those little blue men?
Gretchen
Yes, those little figurines. They used to be everywhere. They pervaded every corner.
Elizabeth
So I found a couple and I put them up in my bathroom so that I could see them during May. So anytime I just see, like, some chance for whimsy, I take it. I think so far the favorite bit of whimsy I've heard from a listener is someone who sews pom poms onto her family's robes and I think slippers.
Sarah
Oh, that's cute.
Gretchen
Was it on your 26 for 26
Sarah
list to get your nails painted a color?
Gretchen
Do I remember that?
Elizabeth
Yes. So I had on my list of 26 for 26 get my fingernails painted twice. So this was a dual thing. It both worked for Mimzy May and I have accomplished the first of my nail painting.
Sarah
So what color did you pick?
Elizabeth
Well, it's kind of a gray, light blue. So it's not all that whimsical. Listeners were wanting me to do neon or, you know, decorations, multicolors. But I decided that it was just whimsical enough that I got them painted so they're not too crazy. But I did look up spring nail trends, and this color was one of the trends for spring. So I chose it for that reason because I like to be on trend. So there was thought behind it.
Sarah
You do have amazing nails, Elizabeth. This is like one of your things that you have always had really strong, fast growing fingernails.
Elizabeth
Yes, I do have great nails.
Sarah
I could see you getting into this now that you've started down that road.
Elizabeth
Yes, definitely possible. That's probably one reason why. Cause, you know, in high school, I always painted my nose.
Sarah
Oh my gosh, all the time. But wait, so do you feel like, though I can imagine that one of the reasons this would sort of make life feel more fun and more elevated is that you're on the lookout for it. And so then you find these little opportunities for delight when you would might have otherwise just passed by without noticing or without thinking like, well, I'm not gonna buy those paperclips in the shape of corgis, but they're very whimsical that, you know, I can enjoy them even if I'm not gonna actually purchase them or whatever.
Elizabeth
I mean, Smurfs being a perfect example. I opened my underwear drawer. I don't Know why I had two Smurfs in there, and I thought, well, why are they just sitting here? Let me put them up and enjoy my Smurfs during May. I'm not going to keep them up forever.
Gretchen
Send me a picture. Because I remember there's, like, the smurf that's holding a present and the smurf that's like mixing in a bowl, and the smurf that's holding a football and a smurf that's reading a book. And there's just, like, all their little activities.
Elizabeth
Yes. So I'll send you a photo. One area I'm learning, which makes a lot of sense, where people embrace whimsy is in their powder room. If they have a powder room. A lot of people find that to be a good place for whimsy. Someone let us know that their powder room they have decorated with outhouse decorations.
Gretchen
Don't I remember that you had that whimsical wallpaper you were going to think you were thinking about doing for your powder room.
Elizabeth
That was actually for our bathroom in our room, I think. I guess it could be in the powder room. Yes. It's like monkeys being naughty, basically.
Gretchen
Like smoking cigarettes and stuff.
Elizabeth
Yeah. Which we still have, and we haven't put up yet. Getting that up, wherever we're going to put it would be a good cap on Mimsy Mae. I should mention that to Adam.
Gretchen
Yeah. And that would be spend out, too, which is the idea that we have this really fun wallpaper.
Elizabeth
Yes.
Gretchen
Let's use it.
Elizabeth
Yes.
Gretchen
Is mimsy a word? I think it's in that.
Elizabeth
I don't think it is.
Gretchen
Well, it's in that Lewis Carroll all mimsy were the bora groves and the mome raths out grapes. So I think it's from the Jabberwocky poem.
Elizabeth
Oh, that may be what we had in mind.
Gretchen
Wait, all mim or do I remember the. Wait, maybe I have that wrong. Actually, I'd have to, like, sit down. I had this memorized. We had to memorize it in sixth grade. And I bet if I had to, I could sit down and reconstruct it. But that might take a few minutes, so that's something I'll do the next time I'm sitting in a dentist chair or something is try to. Yeah, I think it is all mimsy wear the boar groves. I think that's right. But it's a fun word no matter what. Do you think that pajamas or sleepwear is a good place for a whimsy? That's a really good idea.
Elizabeth
Yes. So, like, I ordered myself some mahjong pajamas, which I've been wanting, but they're just not something I would buy. Pajamas just aren't something I'd ever buy for myself. Yeah. But for Mimsy Mae, I did buy them, and I have been wearing them. The other kind of interesting thing about this, Gretchen, is May is my favorite month.
Gretchen
That's your birthday month.
Elizabeth
It's my birthday. I love the weather in May. It's the end of school. It's also my anniversary, Memorial Day. Gretchen is, of course, again, the start of summer. And I do think having a favorite month is in and of itself, whimsical. So I think we should all pick a favorite month. Now, Jack's favorite month, like many people's, probably is December because it's his birthday and Christmas. But, I mean, other people might love April. They might love July. I think Sarah's favorite month is probably July. So that's an idea, too.
Sarah
That's an idea. I like September. To me, it's sort of like the other January, and it's the clean slate. A lot of times. There's a lot of really fun things because people haven't been around in the summer. But it can kind of hit you over the head, too. It can be a bit of a roller coaster. And if you're in school, you're going back to school, or maybe you've already gone back to school. Oh, I'm gonna think about it. That's a good question. What's your favorite mom month?
Gretchen
See?
Elizabeth
Interesting. Gretch, I would say September is one of my least favorite months.
Sarah
Interesting.
Elizabeth
Because it is back to school, which is Summer is over. Then once October hits, I'm already. I'm in the groove.
Sarah
Yeah. I like August. August feels like high summer.
Elizabeth
Yeah. Well, think about it.
Sarah
But it's also back to school. Interesting. Okay, well, I'm going to think about that.
Elizabeth
I feel like May is Friday and August is Sunday.
Gretchen
Yes.
Elizabeth
Ooh, I guess June. I miss June, but you get my point.
Gretchen
June is kind of Saturday.
Elizabeth
May is Friday afternoon, June is Friday night, July is Saturday, and August is Sunday. How about that?
Gretchen
Okay, I like that.
Elizabeth
Okay. What's making you happier?
Gretchen
Okay, so, you know, I'm working on my book about the empty nest, and I love working on a book. It's my favorite thing to do. And I am at the stage, which is probably my favorite stage, one of my favorite stages, where I have my structure, because structure is always so hard. I often will rip up a book a couple times and Completely restructure it, which is very arduous and hard because you have to sort of, like, rethink everything. Very taxing. But then at a certain point, you sort of feel like the structure is right. And I feel like my structure is right. And then I'm at this delightful place where everything that comes in has a place to go. So I'll be talking to people, I'll be reading a novel, I'll be reading a study, and I'll be like, I'll know exactly where in my project it goes. And this is very satisfying because until I have that done, I know that my structure is not complete. Or if it feels like, well, it could go here or it could go here or it could go here, that probably means that my structure is not focused enough because there's too many things that feel like, well, this discussion is a lot like that discussion, and that discussion is a lot like this other discussion. So, like, what's going on? Because, you know, sometimes when you write, you sort of accidentally make the same point more than once. Once this can happen to me. So I don't have that crispness that I really want where it's like, I'm talking about this thing right now in the right place. And I encountered this with the four tendencies. So I had my big insight that the word was expectations. And I started working through it. And as I began building out the structure, I began realizing that all these things that had never had a place
Sarah
to go suddenly fit the way that so many people talked about arbitrariness. I'm like, oh, arbitrariness is an aspect of questioners. Or, like, the whole thing about Obliger rebellion, which took me so long to understand. But then I'm like, oh, this is an aspect of Obliger ness. And this is why it makes sense. And it makes sense because obligers overlap with rebels. And it fit in perfectly.
Gretchen
Everything on all the puzzle pieces fit.
Sarah
Like, I wasn't jamming anything together.
Gretchen
It all fit perfectly. And one of the things that's nice
Sarah
about it is I'm at this point where a lot of things I see,
Gretchen
I'm like, ooh, this is really great. I'll add this to my draft. And then I'm like, you know what?
Sarah
I'm not gonna add it because I've already made that point. Or I already have a really good illustration for that point. This one is no better. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I'll swap it out. This one is even better than the
Gretchen
one I had before.
Sarah
I'm Just like, no. And so it's a very satisfying time because now I'm like, oh, now I'm polishing, polishing, polishing, perfecting. Really making sure that everything is right. I like to edit more than actually write. Some people love to write, and they don't like to go back and edit. And I love to edit. I will edit. It's always a big deal. I'm always like, to my editor, what is the day when I can no longer freely edit? Because there is a point where if you find a mistake, they'll let you fix it. But you can't just edit something because you think of something that you want to add or you think of a better way to say it. They're like, no, we're only doing things where you found an actual typo or you found something that's actually an error. And so I always am like, when is the last point that I can freely edit? Because every time I go through, I end up editing a ton. And I just. I'll edit everything. I'll edit an email, listen to you and I talk about this. We can spend so much time just editing emails because it's like, if you have this impulse to edit, it's like you just want everything to be as good as it can be, and that can. I sometimes have to say, this isn't worth my time and my energy to, like, figure out there's a dangling preposition. It's like, okay, this is an email. That is fine. You can split an infinitive here. Now you can split it infinitive everywhere. The grammarians are telling us, but I still don't like to do it. So anyway, it's just making me happy because this is my favorite part, and I am in my favorite part.
Gretchen
So.
Elizabeth
Did you say you have a full draft?
Gretchen
I have a beginning, a middle, and an end. Yes, I do.
Elizabeth
Okay. Congratulations.
Gretchen
Yeah. Wow. That's super fun.
Elizabeth
That is big. I feel like a lot of stuff is going to come out of this book. I'm very excited about it.
Gretchen
I am, too.
Elizabeth
Plus, it's perfect timing for me because I'll be needing this book in a couple of years.
Gretchen
I know, I know. Yeah, it's coming up for you.
Elizabeth
Okay, Gretch, coming up. There's been something you've been meaning to ask me, but first, this break.
Gretchen
Okay, Elizabeth, I've been meaning to ask you, how Is your move 26 coming along? We're well into the year now. Astonishingly far into the year. How is your move project going?
Elizabeth
I think it's Going great.
Gretchen
Oh, yay.
Elizabeth
It is definitely getting me to be consistent with my orange theory going. You know, that's part of my goal for the year, is to do orange theory a hundred times. And the whole move 26 of it helps me with that goal. It has gotten me back on my treadmill desk, which, you know, I was off the treadmill desk for, like, years.
Gretchen
I know that was strange.
Elizabeth
So move 26 has me back on the treadmill desk. I guess for anyone who doesn't know Gretchen, I assume most people listening know this. Our goal is to move 26 minutes a day, every day of 2026. Also, I'm walking the dogs more because I think to myself, well, if I walk the dogs, it takes me 30 minutes to do my route with the dogs. So I'm like, then I'll get my 26 plus 4.
Gretchen
Oh, yeah. Good. Let me ask you this. Okay. About orange theory. There was a period where I think you got sick, and it was hard to get back into it. Do you feel like you're now back in the rhythm of going regularly?
Elizabeth
Yes, I feel that I'm back in the rhythm of going regularly, which is great. I do, again, want to try to up to three times a week. But, Gretch, it is so hard for me. Like, I put so much into it that I will be sore for a good three days afterward. So it's hard for me to do it, like, that much more. But this is interesting. So orangetheory has all sorts of different challenges throughout the year, and mostly I just ignore them because. Because fitness challenges are definitely not my thing, aside from wanting to do a hundred times in a year. But they're doing a June July strength challenge, where you just try to build your strength over June and July and measure it. And I am contemplating doing it, and I think it's because Move 26 kind of has me more revved up physically. So that's a good thing.
Gretchen
Well, as somebody who studies habits, I'm really interested in. You're in a rhythm with orange Theory, Then you fell out because it got interrupted by you sick. It was hard to get back into it. So do you think it was just by going that then you kind of fell back in the rhythm of it? What do you think helped you? Because I think one thing that's really frustrating for people is they feel like they're in a good groove, and then something happens to interrupt them, and then they lose that groove, and it's, you know, starting over is often harder than starting. Do you think it just with the doing of it, it came back, or how did that work?
Elizabeth
Well, I mean, I think for me, it's a combination of. I do have this on my 26 list of wanting to go 100 times, and I have been very vocal about it.
Sarah
Yeah.
Gretchen
So you feel like if a week goes by and you don't go, you're gonna have to make that up later.
Elizabeth
Yes. Plus, I do pay for it every month whether or not I go. And I definitely am impacted by that. I don't want to just lose money week after week. And it's not like it rolls over, you know, so once it's gone, it's gone. So those two things helped me a lot. I wouldn't say it's sort of like, oh, yes, there's a fact. Once you go back, you go, oh, and I feel so good once it's over. I don't think it's that for me so much as the kind of. I mean, I guess not surprising obliger the external accountability. I feel.
Gretchen
Well, it's a good example of, like,
Sarah
you have a lot of things cementing it into place.
Gretchen
I think sometimes people think, well, I'll do one thing. It's like you might need multiple forms of accountability or multiple things to sort
Sarah
of keep you on track, and that's just normal.
Gretchen
It sounds much harder than it is if you're like, oh, you need four
Sarah
systems of accountability to help you go.
Gretchen
But here, you've committed to it in
Sarah
public, you put it on your 26 list, you've paid for it. All of those are helping you. And it's not like they all take an extra 30 minutes out of your day. They just pile on each other and help you get back to it.
Elizabeth
Now, I will say the one thing that would really probably help me go more often and more easily is if I had a friend that I did it with.
Gretchen
Yeah.
Elizabeth
If I had a friend who was like, hey, do you want to go to the 510 orange theory today? And it was maybe not a day. I was thinking I'd go, yes. Very likely I would say, yes, I'm built that way.
Gretchen
Yeah.
Elizabeth
So that would be helpful. So maybe my next goal has to be to get a friend to do Orange Theory with me. But, you know, people are very specific in what they want to do to exercise. Like, you can't just convince someone they have to, for whatever reason, want it from within. And they may want to do Pilates or they may want to do Orange Theory. They may want to do boxing. Whatever it is, it's hard to get them to do what you want them to do.
Gretchen
Okay, well, could it go the other direction? Could you make a gym friend, or do you not really talk to people when you're there?
Elizabeth
I don't, really. A lot of people do do that. That is a whole thing. They have their Orange Theory community. I tend to be shy in that setting. I think, because I'm not a great exerciser, I'm sort of not looking to be a standout in any way. So I kind of just, you know, am by myself in the metaphoric corner. But I am trying to, like, smile at people and make little comments, so maybe that will come.
Gretchen
That's good.
Elizabeth
Yeah.
Gretchen
It would make it more fun. And you're right. It'd probably be easier to make a friend who goes to Orange Theory than to persuade a friend who doesn't go to go. It's just people are very specific. That is true.
Elizabeth
And then the other thing, Gretch, you and I were talking about is that because I'm trying to walk the dogs more. Adam and I were wanting to walk the dogs at night, so we got those little flashlight clips for their harnesses. So now they have flashlights, and it's much easier to walk them at night. So that's another thing of, like, the move 26 is like, because I want to move 26, want to be able to walk the dogs. And now because of that, we have more opportunity to walk the dogs, which means they're getting walked more, which makes them happier. So it's really a good thing. Really, every year, we should try to move.
Gretchen
It is a top priority of life, for sure.
Elizabeth
What about you? Cause I feel like you're always on the move.
Gretchen
But, you know, Elizabeth, you do something like orangetheory, where you're really, truly doing cardio and you're really pushing yourself. Somebody. I remember Elisa was like, oh, well, I think it's very interesting that Elizabeth says she goes on hikes and Gretchen says she goes on walks. And I was like, that's because Elizabeth is walking up a very steep mountain, and I am walking through the gentle, rolling Central Park. You know, I mean, that is just the accurate. So for me, I'm just trying to step it up in my everyday life. So I'm trying to walk faster because I kind of amble along. And, you know, I think I used to walk faster. And then when Eleanor was little, she walked really slowly, and I remember just really having to hold myself back because when she walked so slowly, and I think it permanently reset my pace. So I'm really pushing myself as I'm going about my business during the day. Just pick up the pace. Just pick up the pace. Because they've shown that just walking faster is good for you. Another thing that I'm trying to do is run downstairs. I'm very focused on balance and also getting your feet off, it's just a little bit more. More challenging. And also there's something lively about it. There's something childlike about running. I don't run up the stairs as much, but I try to run downstairs. And it feels good to just be like, oh, I'm so full of energy. I'm just going to run down the stairs. It lifts my mood in a surprising way because I think I'm acting more energetic and sort of eager. It gives me that feeling.
Elizabeth
That's fun.
Gretchen
Yeah. So that's fun. Another thing is, so when I go to the Met every day, I definitely amble through the Met, and that's fine because I'm looking around or I'm sort of daydreaming. I'm in my head. But now, for the last 10 minutes, I really try to walk purposefully, and I really enjoy that. I feel like I'm walking all through the Met, and I like that feeling of having sort of walked through every room fairly recently. I don't like it when I'm like, oh, wait, I forgot about that mezzanine level. And I haven't been there in a while. I like to feel like it's all sort of active in my habit, and so doing this means that I can just zip through. And I like that feeling, and I like that coverage of the Met. I don't walk so quickly that it's, like, annoying to other museum goers because people in museums tend to walk slowly. But I walk as if I've got a direction. I'm not just looking around.
Elizabeth
Now that you're so familiar with the Met, that probably feels right in a way that wouldn't have. The first year you went. You earned the right to be able to stride quickly around the Met with all of the time you've spent there.
Gretchen
Yeah. No, and I like it because it's just. I don't know, there's just something about sort of keeping it active. Like, what about the. You know, the new British galleries? Like, I haven't been through there in a while, so I just, like, walk through it and keep an eye on everything that's interesting. And then the final thing that I'm doing. Remember, I didn't. I said I didn't like the word squats. And so many listeners gave me the much better word of plie because basically doing a plie is the same thing as doing a squat, but it just sounds so much nicer.
Elizabeth
Yes, it does.
Gretchen
And I decided I would do 13 because 13 is half of 26. And it's also exactly the amount of time that it takes to go down in my elevator from my apartment to the street. But also when I'm waiting for my coffee to brew or I've got a few minutes before I need to get on a call or something like that, I try to just do it when it occurs to me. And 13 is enough to be hard, but it's not so hard that I'm huffing and puffing or something like that. So I think, think that's good.
Elizabeth
So I wonder if your legs are stronger. They must be.
Gretchen
Well, I hope so. And it's still good exercise. Like, it's good for your bot your muscles to be have a little bit of testing.
Elizabeth
Yes.
Gretchen
I was thinking maybe I should go up on my tiptoes when I do it. I think that would make it harder. I should experiment with that, you know, just like keep it moving.
Elizabeth
Yes.
Gretchen
I love this challenge, Elizabeth. It feels very energizing.
Sarah
Yes.
Gretchen
Yeah. It's funny. People sometimes think exercise is going to make them tired, but actually, unless you're really pushing yourself, exercise actually gives you energy. That is something that I feel like I always want more of, is more energy.
Elizabeth
Yes. And I would just say, Gretch, for anyone out there who's listening who hasn't been doing move 26 in 26, you can start now. It doesn't matter that you haven't done it till now. Start today. Join us.
Gretchen
The best time to start move 26 in 26 is January 1st. The second best time is now. And if you want resources and more inspiration, just go to happiercast.com move26. It's a lot of ideas for helping yourself get started and keep going. There are prompts and mini challenges you can follow to help you stay consistent, to help it stay more fun. It's all@happiercast.com Move 26 it's super fun.
Elizabeth
All right, Gretch, what is our spotlight on a tool this week?
Gretchen
Well, it's also springtime, and if you are thinking it's spring cleaning time and I should get organized, but I don't know where to begin. I wrote something about seven easy and fun ways to start. And each one is quick enough that you can do it right away, but it gives you that Sense of satisfaction that makes it easier to keep going. I love clutter clearing and organization as the subject. So I have so much material on that and it's all@happiercast.com organization for anybody who wants to get a little bit of inspiration. Organization. Inspiration.
Elizabeth
Nice. Coming up, you have been meaning to tell me about your friend's April Fool's prank. But first, this break. Okay, Gretch, we are back. I am so excited to hear about your friend's April Fool's prank.
Gretchen
Okay, so this is my friend Sarah. And her husband is like a no nonsense golf playing guy, sort of a straight shooter type of guy. So she and her daughter brainstormed the language for this, which I'm gonna explain. And so she and her husband were going away for like a weekend and she got the hotel to actually create it for her on their stationary so that like it was a printout that looked like an actual thing from the hotel. And she showed it to me. It looks completely real. It had the logo, it had all of the. It looked like everything else. It was completely convincing. Okay, so it says, an invitation for men, the Unguarded Hour. A confidential gathering. A rare permission to exhale. Join your fellow men for real. Talk about the issues facing you. Work, romance, childhood trauma, the difficulties of being a man in today's complicated world. What you carry deserves a gentle witness. We invite you to share in community, release, restore, and return to yourself. And then it says, meet in the spa lobby, Robed, clothing, discouraged. And the fact is there are probably many men who would be like, I would love to go to an Unguarded Hour. But not her husband. I know her husband. This is like, no way. And I guess she had said to him, I really want you to go. Let's have fun together.
Sarah
Let's go.
Gretchen
And so he said, I'll do whatever you want. Famous last word.
Elizabeth
She's.
Gretchen
And so he said, well, I said, I'll do whatever you want, but I
Sarah
really don't wanna do that. Oh my God, I don't wanna go in my robe and sit with allergic eyes and talk.
Gretchen
I wanna like hang out with you. And anyway, I just thought it was like the unguarded hour. Like everything about it was so much the language of that. And he was so completely believing that she was really saying, oh, I really think you should do this. And here it is, it's coming up this afternoon. And she actually filmed him looking at it and being like, oh, I really don't wanna do this.
Elizabeth
Oh my gosh. So funny. And something. I mean, many of us, I think, could laugh. Imagining our mates reading that. And the fact that the hotel was in on it with her is hysterical,
Gretchen
though I thought, like, such good spirit on the hotel, because I would have thought that they would be like, look, man, we just can't do that. We can't have something floating around or whatever, or, you know, we don't have the authority. And they were just like, oh, this is fun.
Elizabeth
Oh, my gosh.
Gretchen
But so what I thought was so smart is like, she knew her husband and exactly what he would not want.
Elizabeth
Yes.
Gretchen
I could imagine if Jamie did it for me. It's like, it's the golfing hour. Maybe it's been years since you've picked up a golf club, but now's the chance to go back out, and in this three hour, you know, boot camp, you'll. You know. And I'd be like, oh, I said I would do what you wanted, but
Sarah
do I really have to do a golf.
Gretchen
You know, that would be a really
Sarah
good way to trick me. And I would absolutely have believed it.
Gretchen
I mean, if you see it on the stationery, it doesn't even occur to you. You know what I mean?
Elizabeth
Yes. Oh, absolutely. And it's just the kind of thing that could happen.
Gretchen
It is.
Sarah
No, I mean, I think they got the language really correct, and I think
Gretchen
that's part of it is you really
Sarah
have to have it right on that
Gretchen
line where it's totally believable.
Elizabeth
That is hysterical.
Sarah
I thought it was great, and I tucked it away in my mind. I was like, if I ever had the opportunity, I would love to come up with something like this. I don't know that I would have the gumption to ask the hotel to do it. I just think I would feel.
Gretchen
I don't know.
Sarah
I just. I admire that she. She just even asked because I would have been so confident that they would say no or that I don't. I don't know why.
Elizabeth
I would just feel we're such rule followers.
Sarah
Yes.
Elizabeth
To do anything, to cross that sort of boundary.
Sarah
Right, exactly.
Elizabeth
Us would feel very.
Sarah
We're asking them to break a rule. Right. And they're a Midwesterner. We wouldn't want to make you feel like you had to tell us no and feel uncomfortable.
Elizabeth
That is.
Sarah
So I said to her, I love this. Do I have your permission to talk about it? And she said yes. So I do have her permission to talk about her prank.
Elizabeth
All right. That is a good one, Sarah. Love it. Okay, Gretch, finally, what is our quotation this week?
Gretchen
I have recently discovered an author, Dorothy Whipple, and I am so excited. I am reading her novels and this is her novel, Somewhat at a distance. Life is like the sea. Sometimes you are in the trough of the wave, sometimes on the crest. When you are in the trough, you wait for the crest and always trough her crest. A mysterious tide bears you forward to an unseen but certain shore.
Elizabeth
Nice.
Gretchen
So, Elizabeth, are you feeling happier?
Elizabeth
Yes, I am feeling happier. Thank you to Chuck. Bye, Gretch.
Gretchen
Bye, Elizabeth. The best time to start a happiness project or move 26 is 20 years ago. The second best time is now. So, Elizabeth, when Daisy and Nacho have these lights on them, did you just see the lights sort of like bobbing up in the darkness? Does it look sort of like these disembodied lights or do you see. Does it light up the dog? So you see their little faces?
Elizabeth
No, it more is the disembodied like.
Gretchen
Yeah.
Elizabeth
Bobbing around.
Gretchen
Oh, that's funny.
Elizabeth
So cute.
Gretchen
Oh, my gosh. Do they like it?
Elizabeth
They love it. Oh, yeah, they love it.
Gretchen
Right, because they can see. So I'm sure they feel they like that. Yeah.
Episode Title: More Happier: Embracing Whimsy, Plus Our “Move 26” Progress & a Great April Fool’s Prank
Release Date: May 16, 2026
Podcast Hosts: Gretchen Rubin & Elizabeth Craft
Purpose: This episode revolves around practical ways to build happiness through whimsy, habit formation, and everyday movement. The sisters also share a hilarious April Fool’s Day prank and discuss seasonal joys.
This episode celebrates the role of whimsy in daily happiness, checks in on Gretchen and Elizabeth’s progress with their Move 26 challenge, and spotlights the power of clever pranking and community support for maintaining positive habits.
[02:02 - 09:26]
Quote:
“Anytime I just see, like, some chance for whimsy, I take it.”
—Elizabeth [03:16]
Quote:
“May is Friday afternoon, June is Friday night, July is Saturday, and August is Sunday.”
—Elizabeth [09:20]
[09:28 - 13:36]
Quote:
“I love to edit. I will edit. It’s always a big deal—I’m always like, to my editor, what is the day when I can no longer freely edit?”
—Gretchen [12:10]
[13:54 - 24:58]
Quote:
“I do pay for it every month whether or not I go…so those two things [accountability and cost] help me a lot.”
—Elizabeth [16:44]
Habit Challenges:
Gretchen’s Approach:
Quote:
“People sometimes think exercise is going to make them tired, but actually, unless you're really pushing yourself, exercise actually gives you energy.”
—Gretchen [24:08]
[25:02 - 25:35]
[25:35 - 29:59]
Quote (the fake invitation):
“An invitation for men: the Unguarded Hour. A confidential gathering. A rare permission to exhale. Join your fellow men for real talk about the issues facing you—work, romance, childhood trauma, the difficulties of being a man in today's complicated world. What you carry deserves a gentle witness…”
—Gretchen [26:44]
Quote:
“I admire that she just even asked because I would have been so confident that they would say no…”
—Sarah [29:28]
[30:06]
Gretchen discovered author Dorothy Whipple and shares a quote from Somewhat at a Distance:
“Life is like the sea. Sometimes you are in the trough of the wave, sometimes on the crest…a mysterious tide bears you forward to an unseen but certain shore.”
The episode encourages playful, creative engagement with everyday life, leveraging whimsy, gentle habit formation, and community momentum. Listeners are reminded that happiness doesn’t need grand gestures—often, it’s found in the everyday and the unexpected.
Missed the episode?
Catch up on “Move 26” tips, get inspiration for adding whimsy (from monkey wallpaper to corgi-shaped paperclips), and learn how to pull off a legendary prank. For more resources, visit happiercast.com/move26 and happiercast.com/organization.