102: Is My Wife GAY?! (Q&A)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Happy Wife Happy Life"

Episode 102: Is My Wife GAY?! (Q&A)

Hosts: Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Date: March 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and hilarious Q&A episode, comedians and spouses Kendahl and Jordan tackle listeners’ most vulnerable relationship questions. They cover everything from the stress of tax season and transitional life phases to deep dives into queer identity, boundaries in long-term partnerships, breakups, and the perennial question: “Is my wife gay?!” The hosts’ signature blend of honest advice, empathy, and irreverent humor is on full display as they navigate listener dilemmas, share personal struggles, and open up about the intricacies of love, marriage, and self-discovery.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tax Season Meltdowns and Career Transitions

[00:43 - 08:00]

• Jordan launches into a relatable rant about the anxiety of freelance taxes:

  "I am desperate for someone to just do my taxes for me. I'll pay any amount of money... There is no way that every other influencer you're working with has all these files perfectly done." (03:00)

• Both hosts commiserate about the extra stress the system places on creatives and influencers.
• Kendahl notes:

  "Everybody has this unless they just have one normal job." (06:47)

• They transition into discussing broader feelings of instability—career uncertainty, moving homes, and the lasting impact of a traumatic house flood.
• Quote:

  "We have not come home and been like, our house is organized and in a good state in maybe a year and a half... it’s been good for me, I’ve like chilled out a bit because I literally had to." (Jordan, 10:54)

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2. Navigating Transitions, Marriage, and Motivation

[08:00 - 17:45]

• Both are open about current mental health struggles, especially feeling “in the interim” between stability and new beginnings.
• Kendahl talks about the pressure of maintaining SAG union insurance despite a shifting entertainment landscape.
• Jordan reflects on how major life transitions affect motivation, drawing a parallel between waiting for life to start post-moving and common experiences around delaying goals until a partner or stability arrives:

  "It also feels hard to stay motivated when you feel like you’re just waiting for… when everything’s figured out, then we’ll get our shit together." (10:55)

• They stress the importance of avoiding the trap of, "I'll be happy when X happens," and instead trying to find joy in the present.
• Quote:

  "I feel like my career's all over the place, and I don't know where I'm supposed to be focusing my energy... But I just want not to be someone who's always like, 'I'll be happy when X happens.'" (Kendahl, 12:52)

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3. Q&A: Engagement at 18 & Rushing Milestones

[19:22 - 29:11]

• Listener question: Should an 18-year-old couple get engaged, even if they’ll only marry post-college?
• Both hosts note a trend of rapid “year of divorce” stories, especially following whirlwind engagements and marriages.
• Jordan’s advice:

  "If you're someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about the sanctity of marriage... that's fine. [But] if when I get married, my vows mean something, and I'm not getting married again—no, don't get married at 18." (22:45)

• Kendahl:

  "There's absolutely no reason for it. And you say, 'Being engaged, that would mean a lot to us...' Okay. Why? It’ll mean a lot to you in a couple of years, too." (23:33)

• They encourage savoring each phase of a relationship and avoiding the urge to fast-forward through milestones for the sake of excitement or external validation.
• Memorable moment:

  "You will not even have the same taste in wedding rings in four years... When I was in high school, I wanted a Jimi Hendrix tattoo." (Kendahl, 28:17)

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4. Q&A: Breakups When a Partner Doesn’t Show Up for Themselves

[29:11 - 33:04]

• Listener update: After seeking advice, a listener broke up with a partner struggling to care for themselves, despite deep love.
• Kendahl:

  "Sometimes the healthiest thing you can do for someone is take a step back or walk away or encourage them to figure things out." (31:43)

• Both reinforce that you can’t do the internal work for your partner:

  "You can't do the work for someone else... they have to do it for themselves." (Kendahl, 30:53)

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5. Q&A: Children & Fundamental Differences in Relationships

[35:40 - 49:45]

• Listener dilemma: After 10+ years together, a listener’s wife decides at 30 she never wants children. He wants “our child” but not just any child. She worries about resentment. He feels it’s late to start over.
• Jordan and Kendahl discuss how fluidity of desire around kids is natural, but these differences are a valid reason for ending a relationship despite deep love.
• Memorable quote:

  "There's a lot of things you can promise in a relationship. But that feeling of, 'am I gonna want to have kids?' is so abstract." (Jordan, 40:04)

• Kendahl:

  "You have to be mindful about the future rather than being nostalgic for the past. I think that is how you're going to solve this situation." (49:31)

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6. Q&A: “Is My Wife Gay?!” – On Sexuality, Identity, and Trust

[49:57 - 66:51]

• Listener dilemma: A woman’s fiancée, who identifies as gay, keeps secretly viewing shirtless men on Instagram, causing insecurity and suspicions around her sexuality.
• Kendahl:

  "It's not good that she's lying to you, but why is she feeling the need to lie? And why are you so hell bent on whether or not she's gay?" (52:22)

• Jordan:

  "If I saw you constantly looking at pictures of men's bodies, I would be like, do you want that?... But, it's a huge leap to go from 'maybe she's bisexual' to 'maybe she's straight.' That's a huge leap." (52:57, 59:48)

• Both elaborate on how sexuality is often fluid, labels are personal, and restricting each other’s online crushes is unrealistic:

  "Identity should free you and bring you community. Identity should not narrow in the possibility of your life.” (Kendahl, 61:54)

• They recommend focusing less on labels and more on openness:

  "What bothers me about this situation is the secret... I would love to recreate a dynamic where you get to show me these things." (Jordan, 57:45)

• Memorable, personal perspective:

  "For me, I'm not just a lesbian because I'm dating you. I'm a lesbian because I'm a lesbian." (Jordan, 55:10)

• They stress that in healthy relationships, partners can share (rather than hide) their feelings about attraction to others.
• Joking highlight:

  "If all the DMs were her being like, please let me date you, I love you, I wish I could leave my stupid gay wife—100%. But it's not." (Jordan, 54:49)

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7. Listener Gifts, Community, and Closing Reflections

[66:51 - end]

• The hosts delight in opening and discussing listener packages—candles, keychains, framed engagement moments, and personal notes.
• They reflect on how much the show’s community means to them, and the importance of vulnerability in both the emails and on air.
• Jordan:

  "I feel like today we had a heart to heart with everyone." (77:16)

• Joking about the high rate of listener relationship turmoil:

  "Do we have any listeners who have just a stable relationship? Is that telling about our advice?" (Jordan, 77:19)

• Encouragement to keep sending updates and sharing stories:

  "Thank you for your vulnerability. Thank you for showing up for yourself. Thank you for being beautiful and perfect." (Jordan, 77:34)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On milestone overload:

  "All the fun things are done, all the attention is done because we get attention all the time in our jobs. But some people, you get attention when you get married, get engaged, and when you have a kid. So they do all of those back to back in one year... and then it’s over." (Jordan, 24:43)

• On facing difficult long-term choices:

  "It can feel like a failure to get a divorce, but it’s not... it’s okay. Divorce doesn’t have to be this like negative, violent, awful thing." (Kendahl, 47:40)

• On openness to change in identity:

  "I just think that gender and sexuality can be beautiful and complicated, and I think it makes your life much better and happier and freer and less judgmental to be open to that and kind about that." (Kendahl, 65:20)

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Suggested Timestamps

• Tax stress and freelance woes: 00:43–08:00
• Marriage & career transitions: 08:00–17:45
• Getting engaged at 18: 19:22–29:11
• Breakup over self-care: 29:11–33:04
• Wanting (or not wanting) kids: 35:40–49:45
• "Is My Wife Gay?!" and Internet biphobia: 49:57–66:51
• Listener gifts & closing reflections: 66:51–end

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Overall Tone

Warm, witty, deeply empathetic, and unvarnished in the hosts’ discussions about queer relationships, mental health, and real-world struggles. They blend practical advice with self-aware humor, and prioritize honesty, personal growth, and self-acceptance.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of “Happy Wife Happy Life” is a stellar showcase of why fans love Kendahl and Jordan: unfiltered advice, authentic queer perspective, and plenty of LOLs amid life’s messiness. Whether you’re figuring out your sexual identity, facing heartbreak, or just want to laugh about the disaster that is adulting, this duo offers insight, comfort, and community.

Transcript

[Kendall Landria]

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[Jordan Myrick]

Welcome to Happy Wife, Happy Life. We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landria. And I'm Jordan Myrick. And we are two incredibly unqualified but

[Kendall Landria]

deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we're doing a Q and A.

[Jordan Myrick]

You guys, I just have to really quick rant. I am more stressed than I really think I've ever been. The last time I was distressed was this time last year. And the last time I was stressed, this stressed before that was the year before that at this exact same time, which is tax season. And I'm over it and I don't want to do it. And I feel really, I feel so deeply confused. And I guess I'm just asking, is everyone else also so deeply stressed out? Because I am desperate for someone to just do my taxes for me. I have I high and low searched. I'm like, someone, please, I'll pay any amount of money that I so I don't have to do this. I'm not very, I don't think I'm a very mentally all over the place person. Two years ago, doing my taxes, I called you crying on the side of

[Kendall Landria]

the road was scary.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's not my energy. That's not how I am.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And this year, every year I go, this is okay. I've learned from last year. I'm going to nail it this year. It is always a literal disaster. And every CPA I've ever worked with acts like I am insane.

[Kendall Landria]

Well, that's the problem. All of them are always like, why don't you know this? And I'm like, why don't I know this? Because I'm not a tax person.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right. And also, I cannot be the only person. Especially I understand as an influencer, our taxes are more complicated.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because sometimes I'm like, how is not everyone talking about this? I'm like, well, it's not as complicated if you're not freelance. But I have met a lot of influencers and I won't name names. But I've met a lot of really stupid people in this industry. You don't want to name names. I won't name names.

[Kendall Landria]

You don't want to.

[Jordan Myrick]

I won't name names. But I've met some idiots, you know, I mean, like, think of, like, the dumbest influencer, you know?

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

And they're going through this. There is no way that I'm the worst person my CPA has to work with. There is no way. And yet every time I ask for. I'm trying to do something. I'm trying to be good. I'm trying to. First of all, it's not even. I'm doing it in advance.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm contacting them. Hey, I'm being asked for the doobity bop doodle form from 2022.

[Kendall Landria]

Cringe.

[Jordan Myrick]

Not my best work. Yeah, I'm asking for that form from 2022. Okay, well, I sent that to you in 2022. Oh, did you?

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, thank you. Thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

I threw that in the trash. You know why? Because I'm a normal person, and there is no way that every other influencer you're working with has all these files perfectly done. I have some files. When I'm having a good day, I make a file. Most days I'm getting. I'm getting things sent to my email. I don't even know what they mean. I'm expected to provide 50 forms. I don't know what any of them are. And every time I go through. Do the due dil. Due diligence, trying to do everything correctly, every person during the process is like, okay, okay, sure. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why you don't understand this. I don't know why you, a person who makes comedy videos on the Internet, doesn't understand what the doobity bop form is.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. I said I got to stick with it.

[Kendall Landria]

You can tell she's not in a good way because she couldn't even think of something funny to do.

[Jordan Myrick]

Bop. That's where we're at, you guys. That's where the taxes have put me. And it just makes me feel feel crazy because I'm like. I feel like I'm constantly getting in trouble. Yeah. And I told you this, but my old CPA messaged me yesterday, and he was like, I'm wondering if there's, like, a better way you could be organizing these files. I was like, I. I wonder. Oh, I wonder. I wonder. Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a better way I could be filing my stuff. I'm an idiot. And there's no way. And he's like, I already sent you this two years ago. I don't know what you're. It just makes me feel so crazy, and I feel Like, I'm trying to be so responsible, and I'm being treated like I'm doing bad. When I'm like, I am. Literally, it makes me feel like I should just not do them legally. I'm saying I'm not not doing them. I'm doing them. But it makes me feel like I'm trying to be responsible and I'm getting in trouble for it. So I should just, like, throw caution to the wind and be like, you know what? Come get me in 20 years and put me in jail.

[Kendall Landria]

You're having an issue with taxes from years ago, 20, 22 or whatever?

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know. I try. I can't even explain, you guys. I try so hard with my taxes to do them properly every single year. I am just screamed at by CPAs, and I'm like, you guys are the one. I am desperate for you guys to just handle it. I don't understand. And then finally find a cpa. Oh, we're gonna handle it. Don't worry, Kendall. We're getting everything under control. Before we handle it, here's a printout that's 200 pages. If you could just fill it out with every single information and forms, and then I call all. Oh, my God. This happened to me multiple times. You need this form from your health insurance. You need this form from your mortgage company. You need whatever. I need this form. I can't be the only person on earth who needs this form. I call my health insurance. I call my mortgage company. It's a sweet woman being like, what's up?

[Kendall Landria]

Never for that form of a form. F O, R M is how you're spelling it.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're the form.

[Kendall Landria]

Interesting.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're the first person who's ever asked me for that form. I'm like, great. So then I would assume I don't need it if I'm the only person on earth who's ever asked for that form. Oh, no, you'll definitely need it. Well, there's no way for us to get that platform to you unless it's via mail. It'll take six to nine. Business where you need it today. There's no way to do that. Then why?

[Kendall Landria]

What is it?

[Jordan Myrick]

What is the difference between me and. And everyone else? Yeah, And I don't. I don't understand.

[Kendall Landria]

It's right.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, what's bad? You know when things are so bad that people, like, idealize or what do they call? Like, have idealizations about, like. Like, leaving the country and just being, like, I'm never to be seen again.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

I Literally started being like, what if I do my taxes so bad, I go to jail? And then I literally thought, well, going to jail would be better than doing these taxes. And I had this whole thought of, like, being in jail and not having the responsibility of doing my tax. That's how bad it is. It's so bad. Anyways, I just had to get that off my chest.

[Kendall Landria]

You can't go to jail.

[Jordan Myrick]

I, I, I just am like, you

[Kendall Landria]

wouldn't survive in jail.

[Jordan Myrick]

What's crazy is if I try this hard with my taxes, I try so hard to do it right. And at the end of it, I still end up in jail.

[Kendall Landria]

Of course it's evil. It's a truly evil system. But I feel like I have all this. You have to take solace.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do it. I try.

[Kendall Landria]

You have to take solace in the fact that everybody has this unless they just have one normal job.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, that's what I'm trying. If anyone out there is also freaking out about taxes, I'm just trying to commiserate with you and let you know that you're not alone. Because last year, I remember at the time, I literally looked up on TikTok woman crying over taxes to watch other people freak out about taxes. Because I feel crazy. I feel like no one. Why is not ever, everyone at this time being like, are you also having a mental breakdown? I'm like, is everyone just seamlessly doing their taxes?

[Kendall Landria]

No.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I do remember a time, I mean, when I was younger and I worked at a restaurant, it was like I just filled out one form, and then I got sent $10,000. It was incredible because I, you know, didn't make any money. But it's, you know, now that I have all these jobs, it's just so complicated and horrible. But I'm fine doing complicated and horrible. What I'm not fine with is every time I, I reach out to people that are literally, their job is to help me with this, they act like I should already understand all of this and that I'm so annoying for asking.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the people that work in this field are maybe not great with social skills anyway.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, all I'll say is when they have their first standup show, they better not come to me for you.

[Kendall Landria]

You're going to be heckling.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm going to go and I'm going to sit for a row. I'm going to heckle them.

[Kendall Landria]

That's beautiful, baby.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's exactly right.

[Kendall Landria]

I love that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you for letting me rant.

[Kendall Landria]

Of course how are you? Hit it, queen. I'm fine.

[Jordan Myrick]

I mean, you're in the same boat.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, I've been feeling kind of depressed lately as no babe. I'm really bringing down the energy in her home.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, you're not. No, you're not.

[Kendall Landria]

Feels like I am.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, I feel like you're so insecure about that. You keep saying that. It's really. You're not.

[Kendall Landria]

Well, normally I'm good vibes, you know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, see, maybe that's where we disagree. I feel like you're the same as you've always been. Just kidding. I feel like you are. I feel like to me, sadness does not bring my. If you were, like, really angry or like sadness for you turned into anger, like, snapping at me a lot, that would wear on me. But I feel like you've been so sweet. You've just been like. And I'm sad, and I just feel sad that you're sad. But I. You know, we're just in such a transitional time, so I. I know.

[Kendall Landria]

I feel like my career is all over the place, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do next or where I'm supposed to be focusing my energy. And then I feel like the housing stuff is stressful. Everything also just feels like, you know, between the housing stuff and my in, my insurance is about to go away. I'm about to lose my SAG insurance for both of us because I couldn't meet the SAG minimum, which they raise every single year. I know last year it was 27, 000 something. This year it's 28, 000 something. And it's so hard because every single day, less and less work is sag. So I'm like a couple thousand dollars short. Despite all the work I do, so much of it is not sag. It's so hard to build SAG work in this day and age.

[Jordan Myrick]

But can I tell you, I feel like it's, you know, ever so often you have go through an experience that gives you a new perspective.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

And this. And I. I'm saying it now because it relates to dating, which is we've been in such a place of transition. If you don't know, we're like, in the middle of moving. But the moving process has been so long. Yeah. In a way, I mean, it feels like the moving process for us has been like two years because our house flooded. And when you live in a really small. It's not like our basement flooded. It's like our house was basically unusable for Almost seven months. And we just continued to live in it, which I think, like, took more of a toll than we could even. Even in the moment we knew it was taking a toll on us. But looking back, I'm like, wow, that was insane.

[Kendall Landria]

Really made me feel unwell.

[Jordan Myrick]

It was. And then we went straight from that. So we never really, like, got back on our feet from that. And then we went straight into moving, which was also kind of. The flooding pushed us into moving. But my point is, we have not come home and been like, our house is organized and in a good state in maybe a year and a half. And that, I mean, especially, I would say for me, I'm like a. I've really had to push myself to be not. I'm kind of a perfectionist when it comes to the home. And, you know, I think it's been good for me. I've, like, chilled out a bit because I literally had to. I had to, like, I have to just let this go.

[Kendall Landria]

Relax. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But that's been a huge transition. There's a bunch of other things that have been a transition. My career is having a big transition right now. Your career has had a lot of. I mean, a lot of transitions. We've so many transitions, and that has been really hard to, like, feel like we are grounded, and it's just been really tough. And it also feels hard to stay motivated when you feel like you're just waiting for, like, okay, well, when everything's figured out, then we'll get our shit together. And I was talking to my friend, and we were talking about, like, when you don't have a relationship. And, you know, I met you very young, and so I've. And I'm a planner, so, like, you and I have been able to really build our life together. And I think a lot of people think about building their life once they meet their partner, and it's kind of like, well, we'll build our life together. And if you're someone who really wants kids and you really want all of those things, you kind of are just like, well, I'm waiting until then, and then I'll figure that stuff out. Obviously, that is a loaded thing, and there's many layers to it, of course. But at the same time, I know I didn't have to. And I think there, it just gave me a little bit of a new perspective.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Of, like, oh, that it is really hard to be like, well, I'm building this life for myself, but once someone becomes a part of it, I will build that life that I really want. And I think it's super easy to be like. I mean, I say this all the time. I'm always telling people to just have babies if people really want babies. I'm like, because some people really want babies.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, just have the baby on your own. Very much. Nothing's ever been easier said than done. Like, that is not actually easy. Still advice I would give if you really want something.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

But it just gave me a new perspective. Is where I was like, yeah, this is little bit of a transition period. Has been so hard waiting for this future that I'm know is gonna come, but it's hard to live in that interim. I think that gave me some perspective.

[Kendall Landria]

That's so true. My problem is just that I don't want to be someone who's always like, oh, we'll all relax when xyz. I'll be in a good mood when xyz. I'll be happy when xyz, whatever that thing is. Because there's always going to be something. But lately, I've just had a really hard time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right.

[Kendall Landria]

Living by that advice I would give.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, and you've been doing a good job of being like, because we're moving so soon now that it really is like, we have a pile of laundry. And I'm like, why would I put that away?

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, why would I? And you've been good about being like, let's just do an hour clean. And. And I do it. Even though I'm like, why? Like, in my head, I'm like, why? Why would we do this? We're moving. Like, I should just move all this stuff into a box. But after the hour, I'm like, I feel so much better.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Versus this constant like, well, I'm in hell. But. But in a couple weeks, everything will be perfect. Because if we've learned anything, it's like, things will not always be perfect. And I do think last year, I'm like, we deserve a award for last year. Last year. Last year this year so far has been tough because we've been in a transition.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Last year, literally, you guys. And, you know, sometimes I'm like, I need to go back and watch a podcast episode. Were we so upset all of last year because we went through literally the hardest year? We're very lucky in a lot of ways.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I feel like I'm someone who can go through hard stuff and not really notice. Like, I'll go through something hard and be like. I mean, even like, the year my dad passed away, when Someone's like, how was your year? I was like, I had a great year. My dad passed away. Was really sad. But, like, I. I'm very, like. I think I'm really positive. I think I had a. I've had. I've been through a lot of kind of tumultuous times to where I'm able to navigate them without it overtaking my life. Last year, even, I was like, damn, we cannot catch a fucking break.

[Kendall Landria]

I mean, yeah, it was maybe the hardest year we've ever literally.

[Jordan Myrick]

And through that, like, I literally have such a distinct memory of you and I sitting in our house. No floors. We have no floors. Once again, I won't even go into this too much, because I know we talked it to death last year, but, like, they. Looking back, if we'd known, we would have had that situation for as long as we did because of insurance companies being horrible, we would have moved into an Airbnb. But I think we were like, well, we'll be here for a couple weeks. Not a big deal. So we're sitting. I just have this memory of us sitting in our living room. No floors, no walls. No floors, no walls. It's so insane. I had gotten out of the hospital. I am, like, had just been discharged from the hospital. I am, like, so sick. I'm laying there and we were trying to. What was happening? We were, like, throwing a party. I remember we were throwing a party. We had our friends over. You were making dinner. We were, like, trying to be like, everything's fine. And I feel like that was all last years. We really kept trying to, like, keep our routine, do date nights at home. And we did have fun moments, but it's just. I really am like, where's our applause?

[Kendall Landria]

I'm thrilled that it's over.

[Jordan Myrick]

Me, too.

[Kendall Landria]

That's what I'll say. That thrilled that it's over.

[Jordan Myrick]

Awful. That was. It was the worst. And then in November, I feel like we were like, the year's over. Because after November, I feel like we had a great year. It was like, November, honestly, when they put our floors in, we got married. I got a book deal. I was like, we're back and everything has been fine, but. So this year's not been, like, bad things have happened to us. It's just been stressful.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

But it feels like there's a. It's like when you're pregnant and you're giving birth and be like, well, it's easier because you usually know there's a baby coming at the end of it.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's kind of how it feels where I'm like. It's a lot of pain right now. I'm basically giving birth. But at the end of it, it'll be beautiful.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're not sold.

[Kendall Landria]

No, I can't. I'm trying. I'm really trying. I'm trying to be out of it. I'm trying to, like, feel good. I just can't. I'm just down in the dump.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, you look hot.

[Kendall Landria]

Thank you, sweetheart.

[Jordan Myrick]

It looks really hot.

[Kendall Landria]

I really appreciate that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Your hair looks great.

[Kendall Landria]

It's wet. I didn't shower early enough, so it's wet. Everything. I just can't.

[Jordan Myrick]

But you know how my bags are gonna be, right? No, they are, baby.

[Kendall Landria]

No, they're not. They don't look the way that I want them to.

[Jordan Myrick]

And just think about this haircut. You've been so upset for the last couple years because Jordan hates taking a shower with a shower curtain. You don't like the little plastic hitting you with. But we are about to move in. There be no more shower curtain. No more shower curtain. How does that feel? How does that feel, Jord?

[Kendall Landria]

I can't wait.

[Jordan Myrick]

Once we move in.

[Kendall Landria]

And once again, I said I don't want to be this person, but once we move in, we're okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

But you haven't done that. And I actually commended this for you yesterday because I feel like everyone does this, but we used to be bad about, like. Well, once this happens, we're going to do this. Once this happens, we're going to do this. And I feel like you've been. I mean, literally against everything your brain has told you, because you're not in a super great way emotionally, you've been kind of sad. Well, that's what you just said. You've been sad. Yeah. You looked like I was calling you out. It's just from what you've told me. No, you've been sad, you know, and you've continued to, like, go to the gym, you've been cleaning, you've been working. Like, you're doing all. You've been going to see friends. Like, you're really killing it. You're just not happy through it. You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landria]

You're very sweet.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. Yes, thank you. Finally.

[Kendall Landria]

You're very sweet, but. Yeah, I'm just not in a good way. But you know what? I think this is good because we're gonna give advice today. I think you're feeling more positive and I'm feeling more negative, so we can kind of Give two sides of. Of the same coin.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. We love receiving your emails.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

If you are like, I have a tale to tell you. I have advice. I even emailed you some drawer that are just comments that I thought were sweet. You can always email us@hwhlpod questions gmail.com and we will definitely read them. Here's what I'll tell you is anytime you've sent them, we. I have read them.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's one of my great.

[Kendall Landria]

We don't answer them on the pod.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. There are too many for us to answer them all. But I, I was thinking today because it's always when I'm going through them, it's so hard because some people, you know, you put so much time into these. You write paragraphs and paragraphs. You give me your whole life story. Someone today, I don't remember if I emailed you this one, but they were like background information that I find that will be helpful. And they were listing all the medications them and their wife were on. I found that so funny.

[Kendall Landria]

That's awesome.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I then I don't remember if I sent it to you because sometimes it's literally just like we've answered a question too similar to this or we've talked about this so many times. Whatever we didn't get to in time or so. But I always feel bad because I'm like, God, this, this is like a dissertation. This must have taken like.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, hours. They're really clocking in to get advice.

[Jordan Myrick]

I do read them and Jordan reads them. And I always say it's so funny because I'll just be in the middle of doing something and I a thing that's like, should I divorce my wife? And I'm like, who's sending this? And I don't remember what we do for a living. So I always read them or Jordan will always read them. But we may not answer them. But we also might. And today we're going to answer a couple of those.

[Kendall Landria]

All right, this first one, me and my boyfriend have been together for a year and want to get engaged. We're both 18 and in college, but we wouldn't actually get married until at least a year after we graduate. And we are planning on living together after this year. All my friends think I'm crazy, but I don't see why it's such a big deal. We're going to be doing the same thing either way. But we think that being engaged would mean a lot to the two of us. So are we crazy?

[Jordan Myrick]

You want to know why I Chose this question, tell me. Because so many people, and I'm. I'm only comfortable saying this because of the amount of people it's happened to, because I'm literally not talking about someone specific, are getting divorced. This is the year of divorce.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my. It's the year of divorce. Everyone we know is getting divorced. Everyone on the Internet's getting.

[Jordan Myrick]

Everyone. Internet people we don't know. People we do know.

[Kendall Landria]

It's like, we're the only ones left.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're the only ones left. And what I find so interesting about all of these divorces, a lot of them are happening, like, a year after they got married.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And Jordan and I said in the car yesterday, I said, if you. Even if you cheated on me, cheated on me and, like, burned my house down, Sure. I think I still would be.

[Kendall Landria]

Would be my house. So that would be a huge issue.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Well, I assume in this, you're going, if you're willing to cheat on me, who knows what you're.

[Kendall Landria]

Who knows what I'll do?

[Jordan Myrick]

Stupid enough to cheat on me, who knows what you're willing to do? I was like, I would still, because we're on the Internet, be like, we need to wait a year and pretend we're still married because it's too embarrassing to get. It's.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, we could be getting a divorce right now. You guys wouldn't know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I would make you clock in and happy wife, happy life.

[Kendall Landria]

Absolutely no way. We're telling everyone so immediately.

[Jordan Myrick]

No, it's like. Because so the. I. We've. We've been talking a lot about this because I'm like, how does that happen? How does that happen a year in. And I can't express enough. I'm not talking about anyone specifically, but there's just so many people we've heard of on the Internet, whatever. Getting divorced so quickly.

[Kendall Landria]

Hundreds of people.

[Jordan Myrick]

How does that happen? Like, first of all, you get married, it's like. And, okay, a lot of them are. It's amicable. That's crazy.

[Kendall Landria]

If you.

[Jordan Myrick]

You just got married, you're not getting divorced amicably.

[Kendall Landria]

One year later, you're getting divorced amicably. I'm just not buying it.

[Jordan Myrick]

One year later, getting divorced amicably. That's insane. Insane. That's insane. What do you mean? How do you. Unless, okay, you get divorced after a year. If someone cheated, if someone had a psychotic break, if someone, I don't know, has a gambling addiction you just found out about. I don't know. I literally have no idea. Those are the only ways to divorce After a year. Getting a divorce after a year means immediately after, because this is when they're telling us. They've probably know. This is when they're telling the Internet. They've probably known they were getting a divorce before six months. Yeah. So you're telling me immediately after you got married, the night on your honeymoon, you're having issues that are bad enough to warrant thinking about divorce, and you did not even go to therapy to try to resolve it? Because no couple's therapist. Well, I guess I can't say this for sure because I'm not a couple therapist, but I'm like, I feel like they give you more than, like, three months to resolve it, unless your relationship was so bad, but if your relationship was so bad, not even worth saving. You didn't realize that after you threw. And all these people threw a big wedding.

[Kendall Landria]

Everyone throws a big wedding.

[Jordan Myrick]

You threw this huge wedding. I just, like, gave vows. And what it made me think of is I'm like, I don't mean to be someone that's like, what is the sanctity of marriage anymore? But what to me, if you were like, I don't give. And this is what'll come back to this question.

[Kendall Landria]

Great.

[Jordan Myrick]

If you're someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about the sanctity of marriage, and you're like, hey, I'm doing it for. For fun. I think it'd be fun. I like the thought of you being my husband. If it doesn't work out, who cares? I mean, at 18, I'm gonna assume you guys have hardly any assets. The divorce won't be too bad. Maybe wait a while to have kids, which it sounds like you would. I'm like, that's fine. If you're someone who's like, I'm gonna get married, and when I get married, I mean that my vows mean something, and when I get married, I'm not getting married again. No, don't get married at 18.

[Kendall Landria]

This is my thing. There's absolutely no reason for it. And you say being engaged, that would mean a lot to the two of us. Okay. Why?

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, because I'll tell you what, it'll mean a lot to you in a couple years, too. And we say this all the time, and I really live by it. You got to have stuff to look forward to.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I see so many people, which sometimes this is just how it has to be. But they get engaged, then they get married, Then I always think about Skylar saying things. We have never talked about her, but she's A conservative right wing influencer that for some reason is always served to my for you page. And I can't stop watching her. And I've been watching her for years and I don't like or comment, but I can't take my eyes away. Yeah, it's like a train wreck.

[Kendall Landria]

Yep.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I cannot now when I'm watching. Jordan leans her head over sometimes and it's insane and it's. She's out of control. She got engaged, married two months later, they immediately have a kid. They immediately buy a home. This is, look, do what you want to do, girl. But to me it's done. That's. There's no more things to do except have more babies. And that's what I think happens. I think people are like, all the fun things are done, all the attention is done because we get attention all the time in our jobs. But some people, you get attention when you get married, get engaged, and when you have a kid. So they do all of those back to back in one year.

[Kendall Landria]

Yep.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because they're trying to bone quick enough because they can't bone until they're married. So they do it all. And then when they bone, they don't know how to. They didn't do any sex education. So now they're pregnant and it's over.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

You got all your attention in one year. There's nothing else to look forward to.

[Kendall Landria]

It's rough. It's really, really rough. Yeah. I just think that there's no purpose for you to get engaged right now. It doesn't serve anything. I think the sense is that maybe it will make your relationship stronger. It won'. I think that before you get engaged, you already have to kind of be sick of each other a little bit. Do you know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

No, I.

[Kendall Landria]

You have to be in such a long and committed relationship that you're like, I'm over this and I still want to spend the rest of my life with her.

[Jordan Myrick]

100. And it hurt a little bit, but I agree with you. And it is like, because also when you're in that first year, everything's so sweet and cute anyways.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Everything's so exciting.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Going to your first basketball game together is exciting. You know what I mean? When you're six years in, you'd be hard pressed to find something that's that exciting.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

So then getting engaged is exciting. You're like, oh, my God, cute. Well, and then you go get married.

[Kendall Landria]

The sheen has worn off.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes.

[Kendall Landria]

So it's like you're not just falling victim to Excitement or a honeymoon phase or whatever. I don't think at any age, unless you're super old, anyone should get engaged after one year. That is how I feel about now.

[Jordan Myrick]

But what now? What do you think? Because we now maybe we should take marriage off the table because she's saying we're not going to get married yet. We're just talking about getting engaged, then

[Kendall Landria]

it feels even more pointless to me. Getting engaged at 18 is something you do when you go to BYU and you have to do it. Yeah, that's kind of the vibe for me and this person says, me and my BF are both big fans of the podcast, so clearly they're in a good, progressive relationship. They're listening to this homosexual podcast together. I'm like, why? Why? Why? And it's like, everyone thinks we're crazy. We don't get why it's such a big deal.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, but here's what I'll say to that is if you and I don't know you, I love you, but I don't know you. And I'm like, if you're one of those people that says I throw caution to the whim, I'm a little zany, a little all over the place, that's fine to me, you can't care what your friends think. You can't be doing these things. Yeah. There are choices you make. When I moved across the country to be with Jordan, my dad was like, you're being crazy. And I went, look, I'm making a little crazy decision. No big deal. But people are going to think I'm crazy. That's fine. I don't think it's. I don't think it's life. Like, life or death.

[Kendall Landria]

No.

[Jordan Myrick]

But it is just. Why? Why do it? And I say, enjoy this era of your relationship now. Don't always be grasping for the future. Yes. Because then you'll get to do. You'll have more things to look forward to. It's like when we, you know, we bought. When we. Okay, we go, we're going to purchase a new car. And I see these big car. I see these. I see these G Wagons, you guys, I can't afford them. But part of me goes, what if I just. What if I just give everything into this car and then I get to drive my dream car? But what if I get to do that in 30 years?

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

What if I save up for 30 years and it's not a big deal? Don't worry, Jordan. I'm not gonna make you drive around a G wagon. But why? I Don't need it all now. Yeah, you don't need everything now.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

But if you're hell bent on being, like, being engaged would be so fun, do it. Don't care. If you guys have a lot of complicated assets, I would be more careful, but I don't know, it's. I'm. I'm partial because it seems like he listens to the podcast, so I'd marry him too.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. It's just like, you already got enough going on. You're in college, you have friends. Just like, have fun and enjoy it. Get engaged later. You will not even have the same taste in wedding rings in four years. In five years. You're 18. You just graduated from high school. When I was in high school, I wanted a Jimi Hendrix tattoo.

[Jordan Myrick]

What ring would you have gotten?

[Kendall Landria]

And I was dating men. What ring would I have gotten? I absolutely know you wouldn't have gotten that. Something alternative, I guess. I don't know. It's just like, you're just going to change a lot and there's always going to be a lot of change in your life, but 18 to 21 is a far bigger change than I would say, almost any other period of time in your life.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

Just enjoy what you're doing. There's absolutely no reason to be engaged immediately. You're both probably still on your parents insurance. Just enjoy that. Yeah, enjoy that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's what I.

[Kendall Landria]

But we love you guys. All right, next question. Hi, Kendall and Jordan. You read my question on the POD a few weeks back. My question was about how to encourage my partner to get back into exercising because of their poor mental health. There is obviously a lot more context I did not share, but ultimately my partner was not continuously able to show up for themselves. We broke up. I'm writing in because breaking up was so, so hard. Especially because the love I have for them did not disappear. But Jordan's continuous advice about breakups helped me make the decision. Break up with them, and if it's meant to be, you'll get back together. But ultimately you can't date someone unwilling to show up for themselves. No matter how much you love someone, you can't make someone love themselves if they aren't willing to do the work. Just sending this in because I know you guys like updates, but also maybe it's a helpful reminder to other couples going through something similar. I love that. I know it's not a question, but I think it's important. We never do updates. I think we have to start doing updates more.

[Jordan Myrick]

I sent It. That's why I send it. Hey, I thought, hey, let's read it. And, you know, I think it's a great one because I think it can also feel like you're leaving your partner at their worst, which can feel like, you know, it's such a complicated thing of, you know, I know they weren't married, but in sickness and in health and richer and poor. And then sometimes when you're. That to you is like, I have to stay through their hardships.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it's such a fine line of, like, what's a hardship? And what is. Someone is at a low that is dragging me down with them, and they're not. I'm the only one trying to claw us out of that. Well, that was amazing. What did I just say that was

[Kendall Landria]

claw us out of that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, some reason I'm like, let's put that down. Let's write that down.

[Kendall Landria]

Okay, somebody write that down.

[Jordan Myrick]

That was visually very good. I just feel like you. That is such a fine line. You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landria]

Yes. I think that similar to addiction, I've been around a lot of addicts. I've dated addicts. You can't do the work for someone else. They have to do it for themselves. They have to hit rock bottom. And hey, listen, watch an episode of Intervention. I think it'll give you a lot of perspective in general on how things work. And I think people can become addicted to their own sadness. I think people can become addicted to their own mental health struggles. I think people can become addicted to their own depression, to whatever. And that sounds cold, but it's not about not being there for someone in sickness and in health. Sometimes the healthiest thing you can do for someone is take a step back or walk away or encourage them to figure things out.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

It's not helping them, you continuing to buoy them up. Things happen for periods of time. I'm depressed right now. It's not like I'm not still doing the most to try to show up for myself, show up for you, do the work, whatever. If for, I mean, a year, I just was depressed and wasn't doing anything about it. That's not acceptable. And Kendall continuing to step in and fill in the gaps is also not helping me. It's not encouraging me to get help. It's not fixing the problem. So sometimes stepping away can be a huge blessing. I think that can be being there for someone in sickness.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

And I know it doesn't feel that way, so it's hard, so.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because also, I think the fact that they let you. I mean, I don't know how the breakup conversation went, but I think if I came to you and was like, Jordan, your ability to not show up for yourself is making me feel like maybe this isn't working. You would be like, give me a week.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, let me.

[Jordan Myrick]

Give me a week. I'm stepping it up. If you, if you don't have the ability to do that for something you really care about, that's telling in itself, not about how much you care about the other person, but like you're unable to. It's not a thing that you get to be snapped out of. It's really something you need to, to work on.

[Kendall Landria]

I think there's a lot of people in a lot of situations where you can't do something with a partner. Sometimes people need to be alone to work through a thing.

[Jordan Myrick]

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[Kendall Landria]

Varies by planning my wife, 30, female and I recently broached the subject of children. Me, 29, male, obviously we have spoken about it in passing over the years. We've been dating since junior year of high school. A cliche I know. To be fair, I had always been talking about the subject and she always said we were too young and immature at the time anytime I mentioned it. And she was right. I barely feel responsible now to have a child, but we just bought our first home in 2022. Last year we more seriously discussed kids and she and I made a plan that when she turned 30 she would stop taking birth control and we would just see if it happened. If not in a year or two we could work more seriously about trying. But her 30th has come and gone and with it her comfort with the plan has disappeared. She said she has never seriously considered if she wanted to have kids or not despite my pushing and after a couple tear soaked fights and a very inappropriate reaction for me after one of very last conversations, this person, they said they got really drunk and they ran away. She told me she definitely never wants to have children, biological or otherwise, which I felt instinctively. I knew during that conversation, which is why I had reacted so extremely. I would never want her to do something that she didn't want to do just for me. I fully believe in women's rights to their bodily autonomy. And I am not mad at her. I'm just mourning the life that I thought I was working towards. But after we talked the very last time, I told her I loved her more than I wanted children. And I would love to go to therapy with her to work through this. But she said she already feels that I resent her and that she thinks this is a fundamental difference that we might never be able to come back from. She said she wants to separate short term and maybe still pursue therapy. But I'm completely gutted. She's my best friend. She's my home, and I feel like I'm trying everything I can to compromise and stay because I know the life I've built with her now is better than some amorphous life with someone I don't even know is there. I'm 30 years old, and it feels very late to start over. And I never wanted the idea of a child. I wanted our child. So if that's not an option, I don't want to find someone else and try to fall in love with them. It sounds miserable. I know you guys are big fans of divorce, but I've been through five divorces.

[Jordan Myrick]

Confusing. He's not been through five divorces.

[Kendall Landria]

Okay, hold on. He's. But I have been through five divorces that I wasn't picking up.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wait, it's confusingly written. He's the child of five divorces.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know. I also read. I was like, you've had five.

[Kendall Landria]

I was like, okay, you're the problem. I think my sisters and I were traumatized by this because all of us found our true loves when we were 16. And I'm scared of losing my best friend and the only safe and consistent thing in my life. I'm scheduling some therapy appointments, but I feel so lost.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, first of all, thank you for writing in. Yes, that's very vulnerable. You've shared a lot. I really appreciate you, and I'm sorry. I think we are big. I mean, I want to speak for you, Jordan, but we're big proponents of breaking up, but I think there. There's a difference. When we're not often giving advice to people who have been in such a long relationship. And I think sometimes breaking up is the Way to go. But sometimes it's not. We have. You know, we're big proponents of divorce, but we're also people who spend a lot of time working on our relationship. We've had a of lot of conversations. Like, we don't just break up every time we have a problem.

[Kendall Landria]

Absolutely.

[Jordan Myrick]

So I think it's so hard. I think the kids think it's so hard. The only. You know, I don't know if this is advice, but just a perspective that I had. I feel like I was so weird about kids before we got married, but I'm glad I was. We had so many conversations about kids before we got married. In a way that I think most of the time you were like, what is happening? Like, what is going on? Because I would come to Jordan crying, being like, I don't know if I want to have kids, but I need to know if. What would you want to have kids with me? And I think you were always like, do you want to have. You need to tell me if you want to have kids. And I was like, no. And you were like, it seemed. You're, like, sobbing over the thought of having kids. Seems like you want to have kids. I'm like, no, it's not that. But it's so scary. I think especially I was younger. I mean, we were having these conversations. I'm 23. I think I felt very aware that, like, I don't know how I'm gonna feel. I know how I feel now, and that's all I can provide. And that gave me a lot of anxiety because it feels like there's a lot of things you can promise in a relationship. But that feeling of, like, am I gonna want to have kids? Is so abstract.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And when we were talking about this the other day, but it's like, even when we started dating, I was like, no, I don't want to have kids, because I was already on defense, and I was already on the fence. I always mess it up. Always on defense.

[Kendall Landria]

On the fence.

[Jordan Myrick]

I was always on the fence.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God. On defense? What? Are you serious?

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know. So I just said on the fence. I was always on the fence about it. I was always sitting on the fence about it. And I had no money, so I was like, there's no world. And I think I used to say, if I'm ever a millionaire, to be clear, I'm not a millionaire, but if I'm ever really rich, I'll have a kid. Maybe I'll think about it. But it felt so off the table. That I was like, what am I even stressing about? But then as our career started doing well, I was like, oh, maybe that would be a possibility for me one day.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then I felt a whole wave of, like, wait, what ifs? And whatever. So I think I just felt like before we got married, I needed us to be so locked in on our thoughts about kids, which felt really hard because I. It did feel like I don't know what I want, and I need you to be okay with that. And I do feel, like, correct me if I'm wrong, we did get on the same page in terms of kind of like, we want. If. If something in general is ever so important to the other person, we will take some steps to make that happen. And I think it feels a little less overwhelming in that way where it's like, kids can feel really daunting. But if you tomorrow were like, I really want to get into, like, redoing vintage cars, we would take steps to make that happen.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's very expensive.

[Kendall Landria]

Just like a child.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's a money pit, and you don't even get anything out of it, really. But I think when I thought about it that way, we were both like, yeah, if you came to me tomorrow, I was like, I really want kids. I can't promise you what way we'd go about that. I can't promise you that I would carry a baby. I can't promise what we would do, but I can promise we'd figure something out, and I'm comfortable with that. And I think you felt the same way.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I know it's a really good, hard conversation, but I think before we got married, I had to be like, Even if at 30, I'm not feeling fully ready, But Jordan's like, suddenly, it is so important to me. We are married in a commitment I have made to you. I'm not saying that's the commitment of marriage, but the commitment I made to you is like, we will take steps to figure something out. And just in the way that, you know, I would find a way to enjoy you fixing up old vintage cars in our garage. I will get excited about having a kid, but I also feel like I have the capacity to get excited about kids. I'm not someone who's like, oh, I could never.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes. I think it's so hard. And I do think this is a reasonable reason to consciously uncouple, as celebrities say. I think that you cannot know how you feel about it. And I think, once again, you make these vows, and I Think that's awesome. But I also think that people change and things morph.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because also we made. We had that conversation before we got married. But if, when I'm 30, I'm like, I want to have a baby, I don't want to hold you to. If you were like, I. I'm sorry I made that. I said that, but I really don't

[Kendall Landria]

want to do that.

[Jordan Myrick]

You can't.

[Kendall Landria]

Well, because you don't have insight into how you'll feel about every single thing at every single point in your life. That's just not realistic to expect that of yourself, expect that of each other. So I think, once again, I think going your separate ways can kind thing to do, because I think the problem that you've encountered right now is that she fears you will be resentful. Whether or not you will be. That is something that she now has really taken in. You are worried about having to go out and meet someone new and do this whole thing again.

[Jordan Myrick]

First of all, I know you feel old. You're really not.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Every person I know, I feel like all my friends that are single or older than you, you'd be fine. But I. I understand that you don't want to do, like, the sunken cost fallacy where you just are like, it's too late, so let me do this thing. And then we'll end up divorcing at 50, and I'll be really struggling to find someone. But you're fine at that age.

[Kendall Landria]

But even at 50, anyone at any age can find someone. Your life will take a million different beautiful roads, and whatever's supposed to happen is going to happen. But I think right now, what's keeping both of you in it is that you are both afraid. I think you're both afraid to leave this relationship that you founded when you were 16 years old. And I totally understand what you're saying about, like, I don't want just generic kids. I want our kids. I get all of that. But you do still want kids. Like, even if you're like, I, I want our kids, not generic kids, it's like, well, yeah, you're not gonna have generic kids.

[Jordan Myrick]

You'd have kids with someone else that

[Kendall Landria]

you love, someone else that you love.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I also think sometimes I'm like, I don't really think that. I can't speak to how you fully feel. But I think sometimes I don't fully buy that because I love you so much. And I do know that when we met, I was more like, no to kids. And then the thought of parenting with you was really fun.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like having a kid with. Raising a kid with you is on the table, but having your kid has never been on the table. Sure. And my feelings around having kids have still shifted and changed because also, you know, you don't even know for sure that you and your wife could. Or girlfriend or wife. Wife could have a baby together and you never. I think that's what's so interesting. I feel like straight people, I don't know if they're straight, but I will see a lot of straight people like planning about kids in a way that I'm like, well, I hope you guys are like perfectly fertile and everything's great.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because you've set up quite a plan that is heavily reliant on you guys having a biological baby. And that's just not something that you can plan for. I think that's something that's nice about it. Being a lesbian. This is really odd. I'm going off the rails cuz I don't remember what I was talking about. But I think something about nice about being a lesbian is you can't plan those things and you find that it's actually totally okay.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I think you're so right. It wouldn't be a generic person. You would meet someone else that you really liked.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. Which I think is so hard to comprehend. If you've only ever been in love with one person.

[Jordan Myrick]

You feel like there's no way.

[Kendall Landria]

But you will. I promise.

[Jordan Myrick]

And maybe there's a world where you grow in ways that you couldn't even imagine. Because suddenly you're not. Not held to this person you were at 16. And I know that it can feel like the thought of redoing 15 years is so daunting. I think it's important to remember you wouldn't be redoing them. You would still have all those experiences. And that's just one of the moments that builds up your life.

[Kendall Landria]

It's not a waste.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm sure you've learned so much from your wife. But at the same time it's so quickly. I feel like, especially when you're an adult, if you met someone who was on the same page about kids, what a. How quickly that would become such a positive thing. And I do think there's truth having a kid, which is why it used to stress me out. I would not be comfortable having a baby even if I wanted it so bad. If Jordan was not fully on board. It's too much to ask. It's. It is life altering till the last day. You Guys will breathe like your kid and you don't know what type of kid you're gonna have. And maybe you'll have an absolutely perfect angel, but maybe you will, maybe you will have a kid. It could look a million different ways and that cannot be on your shoulders. It wouldn't have been your fault, but it just can't be. Kids can ruin your life. You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Or they can make your life amazing, but they can ruin your life. And especially if you're already on. I, I think it is something where one of you might resent the other. I hope not. But it, it could be that and what a positive experiences could be if you're with someone who's really excited. Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

And I think it can feel like a failure to get a divorce, but it's not. I think especially in these long term relationships, people change. That's why a lot of people get divorced. It's like, oh, yeah, you've been together for 20 years. You're different now than when you first started dating. And that's okay. Divorce doesn't have to be this like negative, violent, awful thing. I think that's literally why celebrities started being like, we're consciously uncoupling. Because I think people were together for a long time, still love each other, have kids. A lot of times, you know, they're like, this person's my partner, we're great, whatever. Do we still have a romantic marriage? No, not necessarily. So we're going to go our separate ways. But a lot of these people you still see in each other's lives a lot.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

So I think that, I think you, at the very least, the two of you, I think she's right. You need to take some time apart.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep.

[Kendall Landria]

Because I think you both need to really iron out what you want. And I think it's very easy to be like my love for her is more important than my desire for children.

[Jordan Myrick]

But that's because you don't, you don't have. The, the children thing is still abstract.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

So I understand. It feels wild to go, well, I'm going to leave you for a thing that doesn't exist.

[Kendall Landria]

It feels mean, but it's not mean.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's not. But I am sorry. All this to really say it is complicated. It's ultimately not a decision like, I mean, you know, that we could make, but also that there's even a right answer to.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's one of those things. You just have to know whatever decision you make, you will be fine. I think like, I think that if you feel in your heart that you would really look back and regret not having kids, you have to walk away. And it will be hard. It will be a really hard year. Hard couple years. But I think when you look back on your life, you will be like, thank God.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, I think you have to be mindful about the future rather than being nostalgic for the past. I think that is how you're going to solve this situation.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I agree. Because, yeah, you. You can't. Yeah, that's all. Period. Bye.

[Kendall Landria]

Before, this kind of was like, I need to not be so long winded.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know you guys, it's really. You know what's sad is what I was also saying before is I was like, I'm a lot better than I used to be, which is true.

[Kendall Landria]

Really scary.

[Jordan Myrick]

God, I don't want to stop talking. All right, next question.

[Kendall Landria]

I've been with my now fiance since she was 16 and I was 18. I am now 26 and she is 24. We've been together for seven and a half years and have recently gotten engaged. As long as we've been together, she's told me she was gay. She's dated and kissed guys before me, but has always said that she knew she was gay. Throughout our relationship, I've seen her like shirtless pics of guys on Instagram and stuff like that and ended up talking with her about how it made me feel uncomfortable and was confusing to me since she said she was gay. She ended up unfollowing them and reassured me that she was actually gay and truly did not like men in that way. About two years ago, I was being toxic. I went on her Finsta fake Instagram account and she was still looking at pics, video stories of guys she used to follow. And the only way I knew what she was doing was because they were in her recently searched and because she wasn't searching them on her main account. Yeah, she wasn't liking them because of course, Insta shows when you like someone's pictures. Again, I brought it up because it truly was confusing to me as to why she felt the need to keep up with these men. She used to follow and watch their content and do it on a private account. She apologized and she said she was just checking up on people she used to follow. She stopped using the account altogether at this point.

[Jordan Myrick]

Just making sure their abs were still there.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah, Fast forward to four months ago. I was feeling insecure and went on her account and saw she was basically doing the same thing. Once again, she searches the content Creators and watches them and deletes them from her search history. She recently got into running and was watching all these running content videos, but again, only shirtless male content running videos.

[Jordan Myrick]

She gets into, like. She gets really into, like, beach volleyball. She's like, I just love beach volleyball.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. She doesn't follow any of them, but there's all these running videos in her history. It makes me feel so insecure about whether or not she's actually gay and is true. So confusing to me. We've been together for almost eight years. I don't know how to bring it up, especially without coming at her with pure anger, especially now that we're engaged. Help. I literally don't know what to do since this is like the third time this has happened, and I feel like she does it completely behind my back, even though I was wrong for going through her Instagram. Am I being crazy for feeling insecure? Help. Here's my thought. It's not good that she's lying to you, but why is she feeling the need to lie to you?

[Jordan Myrick]

That's what I was gonna say. Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

And why are you so hell bent on whether or not she's gay? I'm kind of like, is the fear that she's straight? You're engaged, right? She's not straight, so she's not straight is my guess. It seems like maybe she could be gay, but. But actually bisexual or, you know, on the Kinsey scale, maybe a little bit.

[Jordan Myrick]

Maybe, like, her gender is.

[Kendall Landria]

Or maybe gender.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm not diagnosing. I'm just saying I think if I saw you constantly looking at pictures of men's bodies, I would be like, do you want that? You know?

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

And so I think that's hard. I mean, Kendall. Kendall and I had a conversation after I watch Heated Rivalry because I was like, I'm having some big gender feelings. So, you know, there's. There's a lot of things that happen. I think the Internet is bad.

[Jordan Myrick]

Huh?

[Kendall Landria]

Obviously, Kendall and I use it for a living, but I think that it's really bad in most ways. And I this morning truly stopped and thought, I wonder what my thoughts on gender, sexuality, the LGBTQ community would be without the Internet. Without any Internet. And I really think it would be extremely powerful because we've gotten so much into discourse, everybody. Oh, well, I like this, but maybe I also like this, but then that's not good. And da, da, da, whatever. Sexuality for some people is rock solid. Gender for some people is rock solid. That's awesome for them.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

I would say for most people it's not. So be open and live the life that feels best to you. For me, it makes sense to identify as a. That is very much my lived experience. That's very much socially, politically, sexually, romantically, how I live my day to day life. Would I let Alexander Skarsgard put a bike lock around my neck after seeing pillion? Yeah. 100. 100.

[Jordan Myrick]

You wouldn't even let me do that when I asked.

[Kendall Landria]

I know. I'm sorry. You're not as tall as him, so I'm kind of like, like. Does that make me feel like I need to realign my entire identity to identify as bisexual? No. For me personally, no. Because it doesn't really feel applicable to anything in real life.

[Jordan Myrick]

And she's not gonna date these runners.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

If all the DMs were her being like, please let me date you. I love you. I wish I could leave my stupid gay wife 100%, but it's not. And you know what I love about our relationship, Jordan, is I feel like, for me, I'm not just a lesbian because I'm dating you. I'm a lesbian because I'm a lesbian and you're my wife because I'm a lesbian. Does that make sense?

[Kendall Landria]

Beautiful.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I do think in our relationship, you have given me a lot of freedom of being able to explore the lesbian community. Not romantically or sexually, but in terms of not feeling like I'm reading my little lesbian books, I'm following lesbians on the Internet that, I'm sorry, I think are hot. You follow lesbians, you think are hot? We. That's there. I was showing Jordan this morning. Look at this firefighter and her wife. Aren't they so hot? That I found on TikTok. I'm obsessed with them. And I think that is really nice because it feels like my gayness can grow with me as I get older and I can still partake in the community. And I can let you be a part of those conversations and we can get excited about those things. We can go to a WNBA game and be like, who would you. At all these people who. If you could take any one of these home, who would it be? And I don't have to feel like I'm cheating on you, because that's not what it is. None of these people would. I divorce Jordan over and go be with. It's like fangirling. It's like being like silly lesbians together. And I love that. Now I think it's hard because if your partner identifies as a lesbian, I don't want to be like they're bi because they say they're not and maybe they're not. Jordan identifies as a. If I went on their TikTok for you page it would only be heated rivalry fan edits, probably some that they've made. And that does not take away from you being a lesbian.

[Kendall Landria]

More importantly it doesn't take away from me being your wife 100%.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it's so. So I do think there needs to be a distinction and I think it is really like why the part that's alarming about the story is that she's keeping it from you. If I were you, I would go to her and I'd be like, I think maybe I've handled this wrong. You clearly want to look at these shirtless men. And I think in the past that's brought up some jealousy for me and some insecurities. But I want you to feel comfortable sharing with me things that you enjoy. And clearly these shirtless men are one of those people. So what bothers me about this situation is the secret, the secretness of it. 100 and I would love to re recreate a dynamic between us that allows you to feel like you get to show me these things.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

If you fully feel like you can't do that. If you feel like I am not comfortable dating someone who wants to look at other people, in my opinion, you need to work on that. But I don't think you should hinder her want. And this is an opinion. I think some people would disagree with this. I think looking at other people on the Internet is fine. I don't feel like that's a problem. But also some people don't let their partners watch porn. I'm like, I think that's crazy because to me, I was saying this to you the other day. It's like to me, I have my sexual relationship with you and then I have my sexual being as myself. And I want to in my life have a sex life personally and a relationship to sex on my own that is separate from you.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I think that makes our sexual dynamics stronger because we have both two strong. You know what I mean? Versus everything being in relation to you. Who am I with sex without Jordan? I don't know. I don't want that to be the case.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I think to do that you have to continue exploring. I just think too if you're looking for a long term relationship that stuff is not going to work. You can't lock someone in like that. You know what I mean? Never Let them explore, look at other people. I'm not saying you need to let them go have sex with those people, but a shirtless photo of a man? Come on.

[Kendall Landria]

Running.

[Jordan Myrick]

What are we, Amish?

[Kendall Landria]

Whatever. Like, relax. Yeah. So I don't think you're crazy for feeling insecure. I think you need to separate feelings of jealousy from feelings of hurt because of secretiveness. So, yeah, I totally agree with Kendall. Sit down. Have a real honest conversation. Be like, hey, the secretiveness around this, like, hurts my feelings. But I want to know what you like. I want to support you, because once again, as I always say, life is long. She might be like, I'm a lesbian, and then in 15 years be like, I'm actually bisexual. You might be like, I'm a lesbian, and then in 15 years be like, I'm bisexual. You just never know.

[Jordan Myrick]

People never looking at women, because to me, then that's really not fair. If you're allowed to look at. And okay, the shirtless thing is complicated because men are shirtless all the time. We were trying to say, the other day, a man walked into a sandwich shop around shirtless. I couldn't believe my eyes.

[Kendall Landria]

True.

[Jordan Myrick]

People are shirtless all the time. I on Tick Tock follow this girl who's like, a muscle mommy bodybuilder who's a lesbian, and I'm like, well, is that by your terms? Would you be fine with that? But you're not fine with the shirtless men because they're men. Because in that case, I'm like, you need to look inward and be like, why am I so. I mean, it's a huge leap to be like, instead of maybe thinking she's bisexual, thinking she's straight. That. That's a huge leap.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with dating someone who's bisexual. I think that's so important to remember. I think there's so much biphobia in. In the way of, like.

[Jordan Myrick]

And do you have biphobia? And now she. Is that why? Because this feels a little. And I never thought I'd be caught saying something feels a little biphobic, but I find this to be a little biphobic where it's like, it. Yeah, she. You seem so scared she's straight that everything is kind of like, is she. Is she straight? You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. Unless she, like, hates you. Then she's not straight, I guess. I don't know. You know? Like, it. It seems so obvious that she's not straight and maybe she's queer. And once again, like, things can shift people's Gender and sexual identity can shift. And I think there's so much online discourse. I think younger people are so infatuated with labels and falling into categories. And I think that's just another way, in my personal opinion, to continue to enforce heteronormativity. Being like, everyone needs to fit in these exact boxes. Everyone needs to never do this thing or never do this thing or whatever. It's like it actually doesn't really matter what other people do. Identity should free you and bring you community. Identity should not narrow in the possibility of your life. And anyone can do anything. If the Internet didn't exist, I don't think any of us would be thinking about any of these things.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

In such a concrete way. Once again, the other day I saw a woman being like, my purpose in life is to scream at men that come into the lesbian bar. And all the comments were people being like, yes, Queen, thank you for your service. Whatever. I think it's so hard because I'm just like, how do you know that's a man? What if that's a non binary person?

[Jordan Myrick]

What if. Who's like, I'm going to go out for my first time tonight. Yeah. And then immediately just screamed at.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. I'm just like, give people grace, give people patience. If your sexuality and gender identity are not fluid and they've never experienced any form of change or growth or movement, that's awesome for you. I have to assume you're in the minority, right?

[Jordan Myrick]

I think people are so disconnected from their self. I think that is something that the Internet has really with people is like, I don't know my thought unless a person tells me what it is. And I think that can be really scary because in situations like that, for example, if I was at a lesbian bar and there was a man there completely like fetishizing lettuce, lettuces, lettuce. If there was a man there completely fetishizing lesbians, being loud, taking up too much space, I might go up and be like, hey, buddy, it's not really your space. Maybe leave or chill out, leave. I would appreciate it. But I think people are so unable to look inward and go, how do I feel about this? How do I feel about this? And like, we've been in. I mean, when you're together long enough, you have to have many moments in your relationship where you're like, shifting the dynamic or be like, how does this feel for you? But you have to be able to be like, how does this feel for me? And. But I think people literally like, I don't know how that feels for me unless I go and have this person that I've deemed morally superior to me tell me if I should feel this way. And I think that is just not a good situation. And that's why nothing is black and white. You have to look inward and go, how do I feel about this? How do I feel about this? And then there's your answer. But I don't think people can do that sometimes anymore.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. I think it can also form into turf rhetoric really quickly.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

And as I brought up before, there are Reddit threads about whether you and I are truly lesbians, which is so funny to me because I'm like, why are you trying to dictate anyone else's sexuality or gender?

[Jordan Myrick]

Why? Because you've dated men Identity.

[Kendall Landria]

No, because.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because of Idris Elba.

[Kendall Landria]

No, because I said if you came out as a trans man, that would not inherently be a deal breaker for me.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, okay.

[Kendall Landria]

And people are like, that means that you're not a lesbian.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, sure.

[Kendall Landria]

Okay, great. But then if you, you know, you don't have to scroll very far for all of a sudden people to be like, well, trans men are still women, so it makes sense. So it's like, it gets to turf rhetoric really quickly. So all this is to say, this is a bigger but also asked, and

[Jordan Myrick]

it affected you a lot. And you're like, actually, I'm not really feeling this anymore. You would have to cross that bridge when you come to it. Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

100.

[Jordan Myrick]

None of this means anything like. But I being like, this is what's right doesn't mean anything if you look inward and go, I'm not attracted to my partner anymore.

[Kendall Landria]

But I've also seen many times couples wear they're a lesbian couple, and then one of them transitions, and then the other one transitions after that. Like, that's, like, not an uncommon thing. That's something I've seen multiple times. I just think that gender and sexuality can be beautiful and complicated, and I think it makes your life much better and happier and freer and less judgmental.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

To be open to that and kind about that. Rather than being obsessed with identity politics.

[Jordan Myrick]

We should do a study. We should do a. What do they call it? A.

[Kendall Landria]

We should do a study.

[Jordan Myrick]

What is it called?

[Kendall Landria]

No, we're not doing a study.

[Jordan Myrick]

A where they. They try something out. An experiment where for a year, we get off the Internet. We'll do this in a long time. We get off the Internet and we only read the newspaper, and then we formulate all of our opinions on everything. And then we go back to the Internet and see how they align with like other people's discourse.

[Kendall Landria]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

Or you know what? I bet we'd be surprised about what is actually being talked about. Like, I feel like we'd be like, that's the thing that people are freaking out about.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Not this thing.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's the thing. There's all this disc. Why is there no discourse on this thing? And why there's all this disc? You know what I mean?

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Interesting. Absolutely. I always have also said I'm like, I'm curious. I would never do this because I wouldn't. But I've always been like, what if I watched Fox News for a year? Like, if I made myself only watch Fox News for a year, I bet someone's done this study how that would change. Like if you are fully. Would be indoctrinated. Yeah. And think differently and be like, wait, I don't know, should we open a P.O. box present? And by one, I mean five.

[Kendall Landria]

Yes. But first, let me just address this person one final time. Oh, there's nothing wrong with you. There's nothing wrong with them.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Kendall Landria]

Just have a conversation. Just have a conversation. Keep it open and honest and then go from there. And whatever needs to happen is gonna happen.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I find it. We connect so much on our ability to share. Like, when I saw you see Ciara in concert, that was magic for me.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I know you were horned up.

[Kendall Landria]

I was.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know that in that moment, if you could have taken her home, I would have. You would have. You would have let me watch. Fingers crossed. I know. When I watched you see Usher hump that mic pole and I knew you'd give anything to be that mic pole. Yes. That I felt closer. I felt like you. Because your sexuality is not just me, you know? And I think we can pretend just my opinion. We can pretend that it is, but it's not.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And all that leads to is suppressing and suppressing and suppressing and making it feel like a shameful thing and making it to where when you go see Usher, you pretend you're not into it, but you are.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. Sorry. I'm sexually attracted to being good at dancing. Right. Grow up.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I think that only severs your relationship. I think we've grown closer being able to share with each other.

[Kendall Landria]

Just be open.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because it's also not a threat. Like, get over it. You know what I find, like, really hot about our relationship is that you would be really hard pressed to find something that makes the other person Jealous.

[Kendall Landria]

Agreed.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because I'm like, okay, honey, try competing with me. But she watched my dad die. She sat next to him. Okay. She's cry. I've cried with my head in her crotch with chipotle all over my face. Like, you can't compete.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that is what's hot about it.

[Kendall Landria]

Sure. I do think, though, that also comes with a lot of honesty. I'm not looking at shirtless running pictures secretly.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're doing them in front of me.

[Kendall Landria]

I'm doing it in front of you. I'm showing them to you. I'm saying I wish my breasts look like these pecs.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure, Gordon, you beautiful breasts.

[Kendall Landria]

They're too far apart. Okay, let's open these gifts. Let's open these gifts.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we have time. We've given ourselves some extra time. So I'm opening these. We keep not having time to open the presents. And they're just building up and building up.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. Today's episode was so serious.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know what I want to say about today's episode? Tell me, what did the kids say? We cooked. We were cooking. We were cooking, Richie. And I'm sure you agree.

[Kendall Landria]

Thank you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you. Okay, this is from B. From Denver.

[Kendall Landria]

Denver. City of mountains. That's what I call it.

[Jordan Myrick]

City of mountains. Oh, cute. Okay, first of all, these are. These are keychains. And I will be putting these on my keys because I'm about to get a new pair of keys. And I will say that I'm wearing right now my little horse bracelet. So if you sent that, thank you so much. I literally love these. I'm probably gonna steal both of these. One of them says, and one of them says sapphic.

[Kendall Landria]

Wait, I want one.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, you can pick which one you want. They're keychains. They're so cute.

[Kendall Landria]

Cute.

[Jordan Myrick]

Hi, Kendall and Jordan 1. On one of your recent episodes, you mentioned wanting candles for the podcast studio. While I'm a queer artist and thought I'd send you some of the candles and keychains I made, I hope you enjoyed them and have a lovely holiday season. Also, they didn't write this, but I'm letting you guys know, if you want to buy one for yourself, you can go to B of the bag. Spell it B, E, E of the bag.

[Kendall Landria]

Bee of the bag.

[Jordan Myrick]

Or is it bog? B, O, G. We'll look up both and see.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, bog. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Be of the bog. Oh, yeah, Kendall. Also, it's funny because I'm like, did we say we wanted more candles for our studio? We can't light candles in here.

[Kendall Landria]

I'm sure I did say that. I probably said I wanted more for the house too.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Gingerbread. Okay, I'm sorry. Bee of the bog. I'm taking this home with me for Christmas time.

[Kendall Landria]

Gingerbread.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, that smells.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, delicious.

[Jordan Myrick]

And these are soy candles, which, you know I'm anal about.

[Kendall Landria]

That's all you use.

[Jordan Myrick]

Smell that. Wow. And then this one we'll keep for. Well, I'll pick one to keep in the studio so it's on the set. But I really am gonna burn these in our house.

[Kendall Landria]

Bee of the bog. Richie, get it over to me so they can see the label. Bee of the bog. Oh, wait. Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

There it is. Can you do that from there? I don't know if he can.

[Kendall Landria]

Yeah. Richie's in charge. Bee of the bog. What flavor is that?

[Jordan Myrick]

And by flavor notes, eucalyptus, apple moss, and rainwater. Wow.

[Kendall Landria]

That's my dream. That's a bathroom candle. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myrick]

Ooh. Actually. Okay, we'll leave the gingerbread. I want one of them to go on the set. But this one's coming home with us. It's hard to pick. They both smell so good.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, that's. But I feel like mountain top rain.

[Jordan Myrick]

We'll use the gingerbread one here because I feel like I can find a gingerbread one. I don't feel like I've ever heard of that.

[Kendall Landria]

Smelled anything like the mountaintop rain.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it's really good.

[Kendall Landria]

I love it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you so much. That is so sweet of you. We're big candle people, and it's been hard because after the nightmare insurance stuff, there was a little bit of time where we didn't have insurance on our home, which could light scary, and we could not light any candles for probably three, four months. And every day I left the house, I had images in my head of our house burning down.

[Kendall Landria]

Me too. I had to go to a specialized therapy.

[Jordan Myrick]

You did. This is from Rachel and Alexa.

[Kendall Landria]

Rachel and Alexa. There's. There's scissors right there, baby.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, sorry, I forgot.

[Kendall Landria]

Wake up, Wake up.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, it's a framed something. I love a framed something. It's so easy to put on the set. Oh, this is just a sweet letter. We hope this letter finds you well. My name is Rachel, and my fiance, Alexa, and I are huge fans of the podcast. We wanted to take the opportunity to contribute to the new set. Happy wife, happy life is a Monday must for us. And we think y' all are so, so funny. And we can often relate to your relationship, especially myself. So I have a very similar batch of neurodivergence. As Kendall. Alexa will say to me, is this a cake boss memory? When she expects that my very obviously true stories are actually fake memories that I've convinced myself is a fact. That's a really funny thing to call it.

[Kendall Landria]

Kendall's a liar.

[Jordan Myrick]

We recently got engaged in Prague.

[Kendall Landria]

Congrats.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we thank the POD a lot for facilitating those long term relationship conversations.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I put together our gay engagement moment in a frame for your new setup. I also just wanted to color you a cute picture from my coloring book. Okay. We do have the same strand of neurodivergency. You don't need to put it on the set. Lol. We will. Thank you for presenting yourselves and your relationship so authentically for the community. Love, Rachel and Alexa. Happy birthday, Kendall. Oh, God. We really have taken a long time.

[Kendall Landria]

I'm sorry, you guys.

[Jordan Myrick]

Happy birthday, Kendall. I know.

[Kendall Landria]

I felt so bad. People were like, did you get the thing I sent? I'm like, all of our stuff is in storage because our apartment is flooded.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, God. But thank you. Oh, this is so cute. I'm so crazy. My instinct is always with. I'm like, we should put this in our house. It's like two of them. Look how cute that is.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, precious. Put it up.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, this is so cute.

[Kendall Landria]

Put it up, put it up.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow. Here, I gotta reorg a little. Oh, wow. That's amazing. Thank you both so much.

[Kendall Landria]

Adorable. Right next to Jessica Fletcher special.

[Jordan Myrick]

That is so special.

[Kendall Landria]

All right, we got two more.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay. Okay.

[Kendall Landria]

You really don't want to use those scissors.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know. I don't know what that is. Okay, here we go.

[Kendall Landria]

Kendall's first time opening a letter.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's your birthday. I fear once again, this is a birthday card for me.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, no. It says it's not your birthday anymore. But the canned was cute. The card, I don't read cursive. Sorry. The card was cute. Eat, drink, dance and be merry. Thank you for everything. Oh, my God. How sweet. Okay, we will also put that up on our set. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? It says, happy wife, happy life, and it's a gavel.

[Kendall Landria]

Kendall, are you kidding me? For you.

[Jordan Myrick]

This is incredible. Thank you so much. To Tiffany. Tiffany. Thank you.

[Kendall Landria]

You said it as if that was your first time hearing the name Tiffany.

[Jordan Myrick]

Beautiful name, Tiffany. This is incredible.

[Kendall Landria]

I love it.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's custom. It's gorgeous. Thank you so much. I'm going to use this and maybe we'll take it home during arguments. What do you think? Ding. Ding.

[Kendall Landria]

She's gonna try to spank me with that thing.

[Jordan Myrick]

I am gonna try to spank you with it. Okay, one more. And we're so sorry. We're gonna go to our PO Box today as well and get some more of the stuff you've sent. We really gotta do this more often. Or we should just open them. Not on camera. We were so set on opening them on camera.

[Kendall Landria]

It's fun to open them on camera.

[Jordan Myrick]

We don't have enough time to do all of them. And it's the wishing me happy birthday really was a slap in the face.

[Kendall Landria]

Cute.

[Jordan Myrick]

This is cute. I'm telling you right now. Jordan's gonna save that. This will be in our estate sale. Jordan is gonna make us save this bag until we die. Okay. It's small.

[Kendall Landria]

I hope it's earrings for me.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, it might be, babe. I think it is.

[Kendall Landria]

Is it earrings for me?

[Jordan Myrick]

I think it is. Well, I don't know who they're for.

[Kendall Landria]

You don't have ears.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't have my ears here, so they're gonna be for you.

[Kendall Landria]

Not spooky like I am.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's true. I. Oh, you know what I think these are?

[Kendall Landria]

What?

[Jordan Myrick]

I think they're Gastronaut's earrings.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I might be wrong. I might be wrong. Let me check if there's a card.

[Kendall Landria]

Is there a card? They're so cute.

[Jordan Myrick]

Let me see.

[Kendall Landria]

I don't know what they're for, but I like them. Oh, there's a card.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's the moon and the sun. Am I crazy?

[Kendall Landria]

I don't know. Kendall.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you for just being you Goth Mama. Xoxo.

[Kendall Landria]

You're welcome.

[Jordan Myrick]

So I don't know what that means.

[Kendall Landria]

I love them. I love them.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, and here, Jordan.

[Kendall Landria]

I've always wanted to be called.

[Jordan Myrick]

Make your next outfit haunting Goth Mama's Haunted Hoard. It's a small shop. It's a small business.

[Kendall Landria]

Goth Mama's Haunted Hoard. Show it to the camera. Richie.

[Jordan Myrick]

Richie. Sorry. Goth Mama's Haunted Hoard.

[Kendall Landria]

Oh, I love it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow.

[Kendall Landria]

Thank you so much, everyone.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you so much. This truly means the world to us. It is always so fun to get to read your emails and then open your packages. I feel so close. We need to do this more often because I really. I love reading the emails. People really give us the tea.

[Kendall Landria]

It feels like today we had a heart to heart with them, with everyone.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know. I feel like you guys have got to get it together, all of you. Do we have any listeners who have just a stable relationship? Is that telling about our advice?

[Kendall Landria]

We have lots of listeners that have a stable relationship.

[Jordan Myrick]

It sounds like maybe not. It sounds like they're all divorcing. What is going on, you guys?

[Kendall Landria]

Kendall, what do you think?

[Jordan Myrick]

Divorce rates have gone up since we started our podcast. We could look that up, but not because of us. It's because of Trump's America. Thank you all so much for being here. We love you so much. Thank you for your vulnerability. Thank you for showing up for yourself. Thank you for being beautiful and perfect. We did another amazing episode.

[Kendall Landria]

Another incredible episode.

[Jordan Myrick]

Incredible episode.

[Kendall Landria]

Comment. Subscribe here. Wherever you get your podcasts, please interview us here on YouTube or on our Patreon. Join our Patreon. Tell your friends.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're doing a book club right now where I'm reading. What is it called? It's a hot. If you loved heated rivalry. I'm reading a gay hockey romance right now in the book club and I am reading.

[Kendall Landria]

No, I am reading Dark Places.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landria]

By Gillian Flynn.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landria]

I keep calling it Dark Objects because she also wrote Sharp Objects. That's not what it is. Dark Places.

[Jordan Myrick]

Dark Places. Okay.

[Kendall Landria]

That's what we're reading.

[Jordan Myrick]

So fun.

[Kendall Landria]

We'll see you over there.

[Jordan Myrick]

We got a lot of stuff going on over there. Thank you so much. Again, please remember to rate and review. It helps us so much, and we love you so much. Have a great week. Bye. Bye.