103: The Juiciest Details from The Bachelor w/ Jill Chin (Completely NSFW)

Summary

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Episode 103: The Juiciest Details from The Bachelor w/ Jill Chin (Completely NSFW)
Original air date: March 23, 2026
Hosts: Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Guest: Jill Chin (The Bachelor/Bachelor in Paradise)

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Episode Overview

Kendahl and Jordan, comedians in a loving queer partnership, get “NSFW” with Bachelor Nation favorite Jill Chin. From outrageous behind-the-scenes Bachelor secrets and the price of reality TV fame to lesbian energy, relationship advice, bodily autonomy, and even ghost-hunting family lore, this episode delivers unfiltered, hilarious, and deeply honest confessions about love, reality shows, sex, and finding yourself.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Bachelor Nation Deep Dive

Jill’s Entry as a Contestant

• Jill reveals she started as a non-fan, applied almost as a joke after a breakup and a pandemic-induced “psychosis,” yet was cast—proving anyone can end up on reality TV.
• “I just threw in, like, literally … on bachelornation.com apply and I applied … and they just kept calling me back...” (07:34)

Types of Contestants

• Jordan: “Historically there's three different types of people that go on the franchise.” (05:34)
  • Just-for-the-experience types (“elementary school teacher, I’m gonna be crazy!”)
  • Brand-aspirational types (“absolutely frothing at the mouth to sell athleisure”)
  • Mentally unwell, doing it for the drama (“Said with love and admiration”)

Self-Funding, No Pay

• Only fame awaits; contestants buy their own gowns, makeup, etc.
• "You have to buy—even if you get kicked off the first episode, you have like 70 dresses..." (04:51)
• “I spent probably $2,000. Yeah, probably $2,000.” (05:13)

Why Do It?

• Jill: “I was a mixture of all three [types]. Maybe not the FabFitFun but I was like, I gotta find a way to make money ... I’m kinda broke.” (06:41)

Casting and On-Show Experience

• Jill says the real prize is becoming a fan favorite, not necessarily falling in love.
• The show's environment is “unwelcoming, intense, and designed to mess with your mind”—little sleep, hot weather, poor accommodations (“I’d wake up breaded in my own sweat and sawdust.” 14:41).
• Air conditioning is non-existent in old seasons; paradise location has improved things (“We had AC. We had actual beds.” 16:04).

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2. Relationships, Queer Energy, and Getting Noticed

Lesbian Vibes and Diversity

• Hosts praise Jill for her “lesbian energy” and authenticity, calling for more LGBTQ+ representation.
• Jill: “I love my lesbian community... and the fans can really sense that.” (02:19)

Resonance with Audiences

• Kendahl gushes: “You were bringing... lesbian energy” (02:07)
• Jordan: “We were watching like, like parents ... being like, God, they are just missing an angel among them.” (18:10)

The Problem with Funny Women on TV

• Jill: “Men have an issue with funny women...so annoying.” (19:36)
• She says not being a “boob girl” likely hurt her progress—“If I had a fat rack, I think I would have gone further...” (18:58)

On-Show Relationships and Post-Show Status

• Jill is now happily taken (16:45), keeping her relationship mostly private: “Next time you’ll see me hard launch is when I’m engaged.” (17:14)
• Hook-ups in the franchise were “maybe one,” which shocks the hosts.

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3. The Real Bachelor Behind the Scenes

Living Conditions and Health Issues

• Horrible beds, lack of privacy, overbearing heat, and folliculitis (“infection of the hair follicles from sweat”—15:27).
• Tiredness and sleep deprivation push contestants to extremes.

Alcohol and Food

• Alcohol is strictly limited by body weight, a new but necessary rule post-controversies (56:52).
• Meals: Contestants cook for themselves at the mansion (fighting for one pan among 20+ people), but in Paradise, all food can be ordered as you wish. GoMacro bars and gummy bears are favorite snacks. (60:31)

Producers and Show Hierarchy

• Each contestant has select producers; some are “villain producers,” but Jill says she’s formed lasting friendships with her own.
• “You trust them because they’re your only tether to the real world.” (62:06)

Show Manipulation

• Producers decide who gets screen time and which “steals” are real.
• “Some of them are villain producers ... they’re all there to make good TV and I’m willing to play ball.” (62:12)
• No significant fighting happens off camera; it’s all captured (63:14).

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4. Relationship Advice, Growing Up Queer, and Sex Ed

Experimenting and Learning

• Jill and the hosts recount adolescent stories about making out with pillows, learning about sex from American Girl books, and their parents’ awkward attempts at “the talk.”
• Hilarity ensues over “boobalas” and “hootie” as childhood words for body parts (40:13), and the realization that childhood language can be hilariously misleading.

Queer Bachelor?

• Jill and hosts agree a traditional Bachelor format probably won’t work for queer contestants; “lesbians would immediately lock in.… We're trying to buy a farm.” (60:19)
• A queer version of Love is Blind (“everyone stays separate”) is lobbied as a better fit (59:50).

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On The Bachelor Experience:

  • "Suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck." – Jill on whether the experience was more suck or awesome. (57:46)

• On Gender and Attractiveness in Bachelor World:

  • “If I had a fat rack, I think I would have gone further…” – Jill (18:58)

• On Reality TV Romance:

  • “You can actually make yourself love anyone.” – Kendahl (58:43)
  • “It’s a hell of a drug.” – Jill (58:29)

• On Childhood Sex Ed:

  • “When I found out that boobs was not short for boobalas…” – Jill (40:46)

• On Queer Love and Lesbian Priorities:

  • “Lesbians are operating at a higher frequency. We're trying to buy a farm.” – Kendahl (60:19)

• Host-Favorite Bachelor Contestants:

  • “Who’s the hottest guy in Bachelor Nation?” is hotly debated, with Jill casting a vote for Alex Bordy, despite his subsequent avoidance.

• On Ghosts:

  • Jill shares her family's ghost-hunting history, citing an eerie pre-Bachelor supernatural encounter and her dad’s protective rituals (54:23).

• On Being Top-Tier Guest:

  • Jill brings thoughtful, personalized gifts to the hosts, winning her favor in their running “throuple” guest competition (65:46).

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|---------------------| | 04:41 | Why contestants pay for all their own stuff—secrets of Bachelor budgeting | | 06:36 | Three types of people who go on The Bachelor | | 14:04 | The reality of Paradise: no AC, sandy beds, infections, and gross bathrooms | | 16:45 | Jill reveals her current relationship status and privacy philosophy | | 18:10 | Honest talk: why funny and smart women struggle on the show | | 31:08 | Heated debates about hottest contestants—plus the hosts’ queer fan fiction crushes | | 36:01 | Sex ed stories: making out with pillows and “boobalas” | | 40:13 | Childhood euphemisms for body parts—hootie and boobalas | | 54:23 | Jill’s ghost-hunting family story | | 56:52 | How alcohol and food are restricted/managed on set | | 58:43 | The psychology of falling in (and out of) love on reality TV | | 60:31 | Bachelor food and snack situations revealed | | 62:06 | Producers’ impact and contestant/producer relationships | | 65:46 | Jill brings gifts, securing top contender status in the “third” competition |

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Tone & Characters

• Unfiltered, funny, and frank—conversation is rapid-fire and wildly NSFW (by design).
• The trio are openly queer, subverting Bachelor heteronormativity.
• Jill is refreshingly honest about the absurdity, disappointment, AND silver lining of being on reality TV.
• Kendahl and Jordan’s dynamic is supportive, competitive, quick-witted, and deeply “couple-y.”

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In Summary

This episode delivers a hilarious, raw, and revealing inside look at The Bachelor, the making of reality TV, and the queer/outsider perspective on mainstream dating culture. Jill Chin’s humor, candor, and story-telling shine—whether she’s talking about behind-the-scenes survival, the politics of big boobs, or her family’s ghost-hunting legacy. The conversation also dives deep into the psychology of reality TV, the awkwardness of sex ed, and the importance of self-worth outside appearances.
Highly recommended for fans of The Bachelor, reality TV junkies, and anyone who likes their relationship podcast advice messy, irreverent, and queer-centered.

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For more: Catch Jill Chin on HGTV’s “Bachelor Mansion Takeover” and follow her on Instagram @jilchin_!

Transcript

[Jill Chin]

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[Kendall Landris]

Sadie is emoji member compensated for her story.

[Jordan Myrick]

Welcome to happy Wife, Happy Life.

[Kendall Landris]

We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landris.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'm Jordan Myrick.

[Kendall Landris]

And we are two incredibly unqualified but

[Jordan Myrick]

deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationship. And on today's episode, we're talking with Jill Chin about all things Bachelor. Jill, you're our favorite person from the

[Jill Chin]

franchise, which is actually crazy. I didn't know I had shooters out there like that.

[Jordan Myrick]

Are you serious? You're the hottest and funniest. Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landris]

Literally, when we saw you, we were watching Bachelor of Paradise.

[Jordan Myrick]

We watched. Well, I. You know, I'm. And this is something we started to talk about earlier that I said, stop. We have to save it for the pod. I'm not a fan, but I'm a watcher. Right? You know, I think it's like voyeurism. It'd be against my morals to say that I'm a fan, but I have seen every single season and know every single person, and you've all always been a favorite for me. I think you're so funny, so fun, so beautiful. But I made Kendall a convert. When we watched Bachelor in Paradise when you were on the. What was it? The newest season where everything was different.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

It was crazy. We were trying to figure out. I was like, I don't know if I like this or not. But as soon as you came on, Kendall was like, I love this lady. Who is that?

[Jill Chin]

Who is she?

[Kendall Landris]

I said, who is that? There was one conversation you were having with someone.

[Jill Chin]

It was probably Justin, and when he

[Kendall Landris]

said something, you went, yeah, yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, that was Jonathan. Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

I made a rewind. So funny.

[Kendall Landris]

Funny like seven times. Because I was like, I've always. I'm like, that would be.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

You were bringing like, I've always been like, there needs to be a lesbian on the Bachelor.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, yes.

[Kendall Landris]

And I was like, you're at least bringing that energy.

[Jill Chin]

I'm bringing the energy. It's funny because my friends were like, jill, you've been attracted to women for a long time.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

And I'm like, that's not true at all. I'm like, what are you talking about? And they brought me back. I was like, oh, yeah, okay. So. No, I do. I. I love my lesbian community, and I love that.

[Jordan Myrick]

And the fans can really sense that. And then Kendall and I immediately got on our ph. We both followed you because we don't really follow anyone unless we're friends with them in person. But we were like, she's so funny. We got to follow her, and maybe she'll follow back into the podcast. And now everything's come full circle.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, my God. No. When I saw you guys follow me, I was like, Cuz I see you guys on Tik Tok all the time, and I love, like, your mom. Are you from the Midwest? You know what?

[Kendall Landris]

I'm not.

[Jordan Myrick]

If you can believe.

[Jill Chin]

Well, you. You body.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay, thank you so much. I watched a lot of family vloggers growing up, though.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my.

[Jill Chin]

No, the family vloggers. Did you watch the Shade? Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Did I watch. Yeah, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

You want to know something crazy?

[Jill Chin]

Is that Scandal?

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, it's so crazy that their name is the Shay. Well, Kendall, what was up with that? So I'm not part of this culture. This is different for me. This was a new thing I learned about when Kendall and I got together years ago. And Kendall was like, well, you know, the family vloggers. And I was like, I'm only familiar with the Duggars, who are kind of the highest level because they're not vlogging. They're actually on TV. They're celebrities. And I watched all of, you know,

[Jill Chin]

19 kids and couches.

[Jordan Myrick]

I watched all of it. And Kendall was like, no. Like, look at all these people. And she was like, these are the Shade. And I was like, their last name is Shade. Crazy. They should be in prison.

[Kendall Landris]

You know, I fall.

[Jill Chin]

I think there was.

[Kendall Landris]

There was a. There was a big scandal.

[Jill Chin]

And it's all rooted. I hate to say it's all rooted in, like, a religious. Like all of the. The YouTubers. The family vloggers are all very religious.

[Kendall Landris]

Very religious.

[Jill Chin]

There must be something in the Bible about exploiting children.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, absolutely. Honestly. And there is, honey, and there is ye.

[Kendall Landris]

I remember when I. The other day. I haven't thought about the them in so long.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

And then the other day, you know those vertical dramas? Princess, stop starring in a vertical drama. See, I had blue contact colored contacts in beautiful.

[Jill Chin]

I thought I blocked all of the vertical dramas because you can't.

[Jordan Myrick]

They're Multiplying. Yeah. Like gremlins. If you feed them after midnight, there's too many.

[Jill Chin]

And some of them are graphic. Sure. Some of them I want to report.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know they're getting sexual.

[Jill Chin]

I'm like, oh, my God. But I guess they must be making money.

[Kendall Landris]

I think there are. People are saying, this is it. There are people saying this is.

[Jordan Myrick]

People are saying, this is it. And I'll tell you what, we'll do it. I'll do it. If the money's right, we'll.

[Jill Chin]

If the money's right. Yeah. I've done a lot more for a lot less.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, yeah, Like, I'll do.

[Jordan Myrick]

This brings me into an immediate question. Right. You guys aren't getting paid for a batch. No.

[Jill Chin]

For batch. No. We're bootstrapping that.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you're responsible for all your dresses, all your makeup, everything.

[Jill Chin]

Everything. Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landris]

What I heard is that. Oh, yeah, you have to buy. Even if you get kicked off the first episode, you have like 70 dresses that you've had to.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. So they. So they send you a packing list and they're like, bring gowns. And so I was like, oh, my God, I must be like, making it

[Jordan Myrick]

like all the way. They predetermined. I'm the highest and I'm going the furthest.

[Jill Chin]

Right. So I brought nine gowns. I brought nine gowns. I spent so much money. I can remember I did not have. I spent probably $2,000. Yeah, probably $2,000.

[Kendall Landris]

I mean. Right.

[Jill Chin]

And because also it. It gets better when you're on, like paradise or whatever. Cuz brands will be like, oh, I'll send you stuff. Right.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, of course. You're.

[Jill Chin]

You're really like, I. I was sitting at 600 followers when I started.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

You know, and so it was not. Yeah, I was really scraping the bottom of the barrel to get on the show.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I think we have to ask the question that everyone's wondering why? Of course, because there are some people. Listen, I think that historically there's three different types of people that go on the franchise. I think at the beginning of the show and occasionally still currently, you have someone whose friends are like, you should do it. And they're like, you know what? I'm gonna be a little crazy. I'm an elementary school teacher. I'm just gonna be a little crazy. That's one type of person. I think that was more prominent when the show first started.

[Kendall Landris]

I think those people.

[Jordan Myrick]

Fewer and fewer, but you still see him. Then you have the woman that wants a brand deal with FabFitFun. Absolutely. That's the second type of woman. She's absolutely frothing at the mouth to sell athleisure blind boxes. Then the third type of person is someone who is mentally unwell. If I were to go on the show, I'd be in that category. So this is said with nothing but love and admiration. You say, seem stable, you seem solid, you're extremely attractive, and you seem so normal in a positive way.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. That's really great news that you think that about. Great news. That's.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's what you're giving. You said the medication's working.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, the medication is absolutely working. I would say I was a mixture of all three.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Jill Chin]

Maybe not the fabfitfun, but I was like, I gotta find a way to make money off of this. Yeah, man. Like, I'm kind of broke.

[Jordan Myrick]

Before you went on, you were like, I want to do this to make a little green.

[Jill Chin]

No, no, absolutely not.

[Jordan Myrick]

But once you were on.

[Jill Chin]

Well, once I was, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

I mean, it's always a possibility.

[Jill Chin]

Of course I'm to say, no.

[Kendall Landris]

Why would you pay me for something?

[Jill Chin]

I mean. Yeah. I mean, whatever. So, yeah, my friend. So it's funny because during the pandemic, it was like Matt James's season, and, you know, I. Nothing to do. And so I saw a clip, the famous clip of Anna Redmond being. Saying she shows entertaining men for money.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, yes. And I was like, that's a good impression.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. I was like, what's this? I saw it on, like, Facebook reels or something like that. And so my friend I knew was. She watched, you know, with her college friends, and she.

[Jordan Myrick]

You were not a watcher?

[Jill Chin]

No, I was not a watcher. Okay. No. And so I was like, lol. Like, do you watch the Bachelor? Like, I just got into it because, you know, of my psychosis. My, like, pandemic psychosis. And she's like, I think you'd actually do really well on the show. I was like, I would have to be so medicated, and I would have to, like, get plastic surgery. Like, something drastic would have to happen for me to get on that show. And. And then my boyfriend and I broke up hard on times, and I was actually on a trip, so I am an architectural historian. Shocker. And I was on a trip through. In the Appalachians. So I was serving the. The Blue Ridge Mountains and the. The Blue Ridge Parkway. So I was in Asheville, North Carolina, in this, like, crappy hotel that they put us up in, obviously. And I was like, let me just Apply. Like, that would be so funny. So I just threw in, like, literally just went on bachelornation.com apply and I applied a couple pictures, you know, a little blurb, and they just kept calling me back, and I was like, this is so funny that I'm never gonna. And they're like, all right, your flight's booked. I was like. I was like, I've ascended to this level. Like, how did I make it here? And I still do feel that way. So. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow. And you must remind me, I love you, but have completely forgotten the man from your season.

[Kendall Landris]

All we saw was you.

[Jill Chin]

Well, how could you forget?

[Jordan Myrick]

Who is it?

[Jill Chin]

It's Clayton, baby.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, huge shout out to the LGBTQ community. I absolutely forgot that's who it was.

[Jill Chin]

Well, no, it's not Colton. Colton was.

[Jordan Myrick]

Is the Clayton.

[Kendall Landris]

Wait, who's Clayton? No, Clayton's the one years later who kind of looked like Colton.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, then I guess I'll still give a huge shout out to lgbtq. Who's Clayton?

[Jill Chin]

So he was like, okay, so this is like the typical Bachelor. If you were. If you sat on the bench for an NFL team, you qualify.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

You know, if you're. If you're on, like, the starting, you know, practice team, you're going to be the best.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I love that, that they poach.

[Jill Chin]

They, like, look for the people sitting on the bench. So he did that, God bless him.

[Kendall Landris]

He was a season where I'm pretty sure he looked a lot like the host. And I kept.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know who this is now, who's who.

[Kendall Landris]

I don't know who's the host and who's the best.

[Jill Chin]

I've always had eyes for Jesse, the host. I love Jesse so much. They gotta, like. They try to, like, keep him away from me. Cause I'm like, Jesse.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Because also, I was told Jordan, I was like, hosting the Bachelor is such a specific person. Like, you have to be so earnest and, like, believe in the process in a way that is insane.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right?

[Kendall Landris]

And he was just.

[Jordan Myrick]

He's perfect.

[Jill Chin]

I love Jesse. I know everyone. There's some, like, Chris Harrison stands. You know, everyone's like, I'm not watching. Cause Chris Harrison's not on it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Crazy.

[Jill Chin]

And I'm like, okay. But Jesse, like, the host has a specific role. And I always used to joke with Rachel Rea, my best friend, former shout out. And so we would say that Jesse, like, lived in a coffin, and he would rise every four days to. To deliver two lines of the rose ceremony.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's beautiful.

[Jill Chin]

And we love that. And then once you get eliminated, Jesse will go shoot you out back.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes.

[Jill Chin]

And that's it. Cuz no one. Cuz we literally act like once you got eliminated, you died. Like, you like, oh, my God, I'm never going to see her again. I'll see you four weeks. Like, it's really not that big of a deal. But yeah. So Clayton was my bachelor. And you know when they tell you, you're like, yay. Because. And it's nothing against Clayton. Clayton and I have had. I mean, whatever. We've had beef. Clayton's got beef with everybody. But God bless him. Like, I do. I wish the best for you. Hope you're doing well, buddy. But we thought that we were gonna get like Greg Grippo or Andrew Spencer or Justin Glaze, you know, So I was getting right. I was in my car pretending. I was talking to Justin. I was like, oh, my God. And then it was Clayton. I was like, okay, cool. Like, I can get to a place where I think this guy's attractive and I can. I can. The mind is a powerful thing.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. And it's all flooding back to me now. He's the guy who's taking hip hop dance classes right now. Oh, yeah, that's. And that's what I know him as. He's always being like, what a year of progress can make. And once again, that's no shade because I also take dance classes and I love that.

[Kendall Landris]

And what are your progress? A progress a year can make and

[Jordan Myrick]

ultimately, what a year of progress.

[Jill Chin]

No. Like every. Every year I'm like, let's see how the Dougie looks this year. Like, I am locked in. Sure. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

So that is so. That's so interesting to me. And that is why I could never. This is the only reason I can never be the bachelorette.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. No other.

[Kendall Landris]

They're begging me. Of course I would be convinced. Everyone here is so unattracted to me and they're pretending, and that's like my nightmare scenario.

[Jill Chin]

So you have the opposite.

[Kendall Landris]

You'd be like, well, I see.

[Jill Chin]

I was like a big fish in a small pond. I say, like, not really, but when I came out, I saw these ladies.

[Jordan Myrick]

I was like, no, please.

[Jill Chin]

I was so aghast. And this is a time where I had very low self esteem. So I was like, wallflower.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Like, because some girls come on and they're so polished and they come out and they're like, you know, if the producer's like, oh, guys are ready to juice. They're like, okay. And they go out in front of the camera. I'm like. Like, I wanted to shrink into the wall. It was sure awful.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. And how many episodes were you on that first season?

[Jill Chin]

Four.

[Kendall Landris]

Four. Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. That's amazing.

[Jill Chin]

No, honestly, every show I make, I'm like, halfway. All right, see you guys.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, I feel like there must be, after the first episode, just this, like, who cares now, as long as I don't go home the first episode.

[Jill Chin]

I was so worried about going home the first night. It almost happened because I didn't get to talk to him the first night. And so. Because I'm like, oh, I'll steal him. I'll steal him. Okay. There's. That's, like, not real. Really? Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

The producers just decide who does it, I'm sure.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. And they saw me and they're like, nah. Wow. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Insane.

[Jill Chin]

It is crazy.

[Jordan Myrick]

So that was your first season. What's the next affiliated thing you do?

[Jill Chin]

So the next affiliated thing I did. I did Bachelor in Paradise, and that was the next year after. So, like, the next round, they ship in fresh new batch to the sands of Mexico, and there I am.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you did two seasons of Bachelor in Paradise. I did first season. Remind the audience what happened.

[Jill Chin]

So the first season, there was. Oh, my God. I mean, it was. There was Romeo. That guy was involved, so Romeo. Okay. That was a whole mess. And then I was with that. The Tarzan guy, Jacob. And that was really a Hail Mary. Like, that was the Hail Mary. To, like, keep myself there for a little bit longer.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

And then they did the split week, so they took us off. And I acted like I was, like, going to die. I acted like they were really going to shoot me out back.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

So that was a really tough experience. Only because it was so, like, the environment is so unwelcoming.

[Kendall Landris]

Is it?

[Jill Chin]

Oh, we have no ac.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, dear.

[Jill Chin]

They film it in June.

[Jordan Myrick]

You guys look so good. It's crazy that there's no air conditioning.

[Jill Chin]

That's again, really good news, because I would. I mean, you're Sandy all the time. I would wake up. First of all, the beds that they make. It looks like they made them in 10 minutes with no tools. Like, it was ramshackle. We're sleeping basically outside because there's no. So there's bats, there's bugs, there's. I mean, so snakes. There's everything. So you're basically living outside. And also the bathroom situation, there was just beads. There was no door. So I would wake up early and, like, try to.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Jill Chin]

So I. I would wake up I'd go to bed every night, and they. They didn't really take the care to clean out the bunks after they like them together. So I'd wake up breaded in my own sweat and sawdust. Insane.

[Kendall Landris]

Wait, why is it like this? Because we don't see you guys sleeping, so there's no reason to pay attention.

[Jill Chin]

And that's another thing. You don't see us sleeping because maybe we get two, three hours.

[Jordan Myrick]

Why?

[Jill Chin]

Like, the sleep is very. I don't know. I don't know. And I. I think the resort has ac. But because all the lights in the production, they can't. They can't do, like, all right, we'll chop the ac. No ac. So that was really tough to live in that I got folliculitis. What's that?

[Jordan Myrick]

Right.

[Jill Chin]

Exactly. What is that? So it's when you get so sweaty and disgusting that you have an infection of the hair follicles.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God.

[Jill Chin]

Like, my hair hurt.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's crazy. I feel like everybody's walking around with a uti.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, my God. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Well, there's medical on there, which is great, but. So I think that's why they changed the location. Yeah, to Costa Rica.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you guys deserve that. Ultimately, it.

[Jill Chin]

It. I.

[Kendall Landris]

It's not.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'll be honest with you. It's not as good to watch the way that the new season is done.

[Jill Chin]

I fully agree, but I'm like, it

[Jordan Myrick]

doesn't really matter because it's so obvious that y' all are getting treated better.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. Who cares? Much better. We had ac. We had actual beds. Like, it was a resort, so it was really beautiful. But I agree there is a charm about, like, the ramshackle.

[Kendall Landris]

You know, it feels a little, like, naked and afraid.

[Jill Chin]

It is kind of naked and afraid. And. And there's, like, sounds of, like, the waves, and, like, sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad. But I remember stepping into paradise. One of the first things I said is, like, oh, my God, it's so quiet because. And also, just the people. It was just, like, weird. It was such a different vibe. Walking into.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, I have a couple quick questions. You don't have to technically answer any of them. You can plead the fifth on any of them. My first question is, what's your relationship status now?

[Jill Chin]

Oh, I'm taken. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I love him so much. And we're probably getting married.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, incredible. I mean, driving over here, we were literally like, how is she still single?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you're not. So that makes Sense.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. So, yeah. And I was asked this question yesterday during press. They were like, so, what's, what's your status? And I was like, no, I'm taking. But they're like, well, why haven't we seen him on your Instagram? And I'm like, that's so funny. Because, like, I can have this for myself. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

And because last time I hard launched a man, like, I was like, why did I do that?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

That's so stupid. So next time you'll see me hard launches when I'm engaged. Because, like, I love that.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think that's smart. We would be fully private if we didn't make money off of it, right? Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Similar. When we started dating, we said, how do we make money?

[Jill Chin]

I mean, if my partner were, you know, about that life, then maybe eventually. But like, I don't know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay. So this information makes my follow up questions more awkward. So you just have to pretend you're single.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

How many people from the franchise have you hooked up with?

[Jill Chin]

Ooh, like maybe one.

[Jordan Myrick]

Just one?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. No, he's not really. Well, it's because. Okay, again, this may come as a shock to you guys. I'm not a hot commodity.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well. And we've seen that on the show, but it is shocking. Wow.

[Jill Chin]

No, it's actually crazy.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm like, that's crazy. Eiffel Tower you right now. If that was an option. It's crazy.

[Kendall Landris]

We were watching like, like parents. We were sitting there. We were, we were watching the in paradise and being like, God, they are just missing an angel among them.

[Jordan Myrick]

And that's why they're all jealous of her.

[Kendall Landris]

Jealous. They don't know. They don't like a woman that's confident. They. It's gonna make them feel insecure. We were, we were writing so hard

[Jordan Myrick]

and we do think that's true. It's so funny to watch all these men be like, yeah, you just have like friend vibes to me. I'm like, yeah, that's because they like you. It's like men are so not accustomed to being with a woman where they like her personality. They're like, I can't be in love with you. Your personality is too good.

[Jill Chin]

And that's the thing. All the men on the show are only nice to you if they're attracted to you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

I mean, maybe like half people think I'm funny and I do, you know, which is great. Love that I do project with humor, you know, but there's like, I'm very sweet.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Like, I'm A very nice person. I'm educated, yes. I think. But if I. If I had a fat rack, I think I would have gone further and, like, I would be really apple with a fat rack.

[Jordan Myrick]

You think all these guys are rack guys?

[Jill Chin]

They're boob guys.

[Jordan Myrick]

For sure.

[Jill Chin]

For sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Boob guy is very, you know, straight culture, white culture, bachelor verse. Yeah, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, because you're so funny, but you're not, like, you know, when you meet someone, you're like, oh, God. Like, they're so funny, but they're like, they can't turn it off and they can't. Like, they seem almost manic or they're just throwing jokes out there.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

You're not like that. It's like you're. You're genuinely funny, but then also, like, you could have a real conversation.

[Jill Chin]

I could definitely have a real conversation, but it was hard to have real conversations with these people.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

So a lot of it was like, haha, joke. And I also think that men have an issue with funny women, of course, which is so annoying. So, yeah, I just wasn't that desirable. And that was okay. I keep being like, that was okay. It did obviously hurt a little bit.

[Kendall Landris]

I was like, why? Well, especially because, I mean, even literally, I'm gay, but I'm competitive. And so I have always had this dream of, like, I would love to go on the Bachelor just to be like, I would win, which is crazy because there's no way in hell. Yeah, I would win.

[Jordan Myrick]

Too tall. You would ever win week one, you're too tall.

[Kendall Landris]

I would not be cast even. But I have in my head, I'm like, if I was straight, I would be like, the franchises. I would be Hannah Brown. Like, I would be so famous. Yes.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Kendall Landris]

And so I think there is even if you don't like the. Any of the guys, this kind of like.

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah, no, the thing that's not true. I guess I don't want any of you, but I want to be the object of your desire.

[Jordan Myrick]

Of course.

[Jill Chin]

Of course. Like, so I want to be the object of their desire. That wasn't happening because, I mean, everyone on there is so beautiful too. So I'm like, all right, like, what do I got going for me? Humor, intelligent. And they really didn't care about it. And they said, actually, yeah, like, we're your boobs.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Like what? That's rough. You are extremely beautiful. But you could, I'll say it, have bigger boobs.

[Kendall Landris]

And we did say that during the show. We said.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we were watching She's A beautiful angel. Where are them hooters at? So this leads me to another question.

[Jill Chin]

Why don't I have tits?

[Jordan Myrick]

Why don't you have big titties? Who is the hottest guy from Bachelor Nation? Like, you could hook up with one guy. He's the hottest guy. Who is it?

[Jill Chin]

I've said him so many times. And then he stopped talking to me.

[Jordan Myrick]

He got a restraining order.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. I think it's Alex Bordy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Alex Bord. Alex Bordy. He sounds like a boy you went to high school with that played water polo.

[Jill Chin]

No, but he. He's Russian.

[Jordan Myrick]

Alex.

[Jill Chin]

He is. He. He's a model. He's very stoic, and I like those people because I'm like, I can crack him. I'm like, give me 10 minutes to room with him. Like, I can. I can crack him.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

And we were friendly, you know, after the show. And then I started going on podcast and being Alex Brady. I'm an Alex Brie. And then the. Suddenly the communication fell off. I don't know why.

[Jordan Myrick]

This guy. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Let me see.

[Jill Chin]

And I was on. He was on my season, and I was like, ew. You know what? No, for some reason.

[Jordan Myrick]

Really? That's interesting.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, for some reason. I mean, there's.

[Jordan Myrick]

But he's not doing it for me.

[Jill Chin]

Well, there's a lot of cutie pies, but there's a lot of, like, conventionally, like, handsome, like, ripped. I honestly don't like a ripped dude. Have you ever tried to, like, snuggle with somebody who's, like. Like, so ripped? Like, it's uncomfortable.

[Jordan Myrick]

I have one time. I'll say right now, I, in a past life have had sex with men, and the worst sex I've ever had was with the most ripped man I've ever been with.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. No, it's not enjoyable.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Are you talking about me, Kendall? No.

[Jordan Myrick]

He was, like, so jacked, and he was so hot. I remember he was so hot that I was out because I lived in New York for a long time. I was out in New York with my mom, and she was visiting, and she and I randomly ran into him on the street. And my mom, who's like, not about this. And also, like, my dad is shorter than my mom. I would say less masculine than my mom. My parents are kind of giving by for by, is the vibe. My mom saw this guy that I was hooking up with, and she was like, he's extremely attractive. Like, that's how attractive was. We had sex. He got on top of me, closed his Eyes did not make a sound.

[Jill Chin]

Oh.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh.

[Jill Chin]

And. Yeah, that's silence. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Also. And this is a more graphic story, so I'll tell it. You're giving so much. I feel like I have to give back.

[Jill Chin]

Please.

[Jordan Myrick]

He went down on me. And after 30 seconds, he goes, can I have a napkin or something?

[Kendall Landris]

What?

[Jill Chin]

Well, maybe because he was too juicy. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And it was absolutely nothing to do with him.

[Jill Chin]

Napkin.

[Jordan Myrick]

I was like, I know my job. And I. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Wow.

[Jordan Myrick]

He said, can. I looked up.

[Jill Chin]

Can I.

[Jordan Myrick]

Can I have a napkin or something?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. Let me get off my bedside table.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, yeah, bud, dry it off. That's exactly what you want. Get it real nice and bone dry.

[Jill Chin]

That's never. I've never heard anything like that. I'm going to tell you right now.

[Jordan Myrick]

Crazy, right?

[Kendall Landris]

Even the men on the Bachelor have more decorum than that.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. Wow.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's horrible.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. Yeah. No, so I. I have not hooked up with many people on this show.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow. Okay. So you think that Russian guy is the hottest.

[Jill Chin]

I do.

[Jordan Myrick]

I wonder who we think is the hottest. We gotta look.

[Jill Chin]

I mean, Greg Gerbo is attractive.

[Jordan Myrick]

Which one is that?

[Kendall Landris]

His last name's Boat.

[Jordan Myrick]

You say stupid.

[Jill Chin]

What did you say? Greg Grippo.

[Kendall Landris]

I think you said Gregory Boat.

[Jill Chin]

Gregory Boat.

[Jordan Myrick]

Gregory Boat. His last name's Boat. Gregory Grippo.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, it's hard because I have a lot of the women. I. I swear to God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, you go first. Who's the hottest? Other than you, who's the hottest?

[Jill Chin]

Jesus Christ. I. I mean, I'm biased because I love my best friend Rachel, and she's

[Jordan Myrick]

also one of the hottest of all time.

[Jill Chin]

She's just like. Like ethereal.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Like, she look gorgeous.

[Jordan Myrick]

Everyone, we need a full roster of all the.

[Jill Chin]

I know.

[Kendall Landris]

I need it projected.

[Jordan Myrick]

You think this guy. We.

[Jill Chin]

Well, okay, the thing is. Hear me out. Hear me out. It. It's. It's kind of like the Timothy Shalam thing where it's like a little, you know. I hate to say it, Rodent. Like, it's like, I want.

[Jordan Myrick]

All right.

[Jill Chin]

I want a guy that's like a little sickly. He's like a tortured ar.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

You know, something like that.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think that's appeal. Appealing to women who are attracted to men. Kendall and I are not attracted to men. So the only kind of men that we find attractive are. I mean, like the heated rivalry guys like Francois Arnault. I'm like, he's like six, five. He looks like he could kill me with one swift punch to the back of the head. I'm like, yeah, I would absolutely let him go to town on me.

[Jill Chin]

So you think that he's the hottest out of the heat rivalry, Guys, like, who's your type out of heat of rivalry.

[Jordan Myrick]

And thank you for asking. I'm in full. As I've said on multiple episodes, I'm in full heated rivalry.

[Kendall Landris]

Jordan's reading fan fiction. There's a lot.

[Jordan Myrick]

I got the books. I'm reading a scene from the book and then watching a scene and doing side by sides. I've never in my life been a fan fiction person. What does two men giving each other blowjobs matter to me a lot? Nothing.

[Kendall Landris]

Nothing.

[Jordan Myrick]

Historically, everything. I've seen it in real life, done nothing for me. I am, like, not well. It's giving me gender stuff. It's like, really? It's. It's breaking my brain in half. So this is my ranking.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

The hottest person is Ilya Rosenoff. So Connor's story as Ilya Rosenoff.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, of course.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's the hottest. When he's jacking himself off in the shower. Yeah. I call 91 1. I say, come get me. Take me to an institution once again. Why?

[Jill Chin]

It brings tears to my eyes.

[Kendall Landris]

It gives me chills thinking about it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Crazy. But a lot of the bad don't agree. I'll tell you a secret. I'll tell you guys a secret. Dad, if you're listening, I certainly hope you're not. You've heard a lot more than you've already wanted to hear. Turn it off now. After the show. Oh, I haven't in a long time. I bought a pack of. I was on tour this weekend. I was at a bar. This is a question I have. Can you buy at bars in Los Angeles? Can you buy a pack of at a bar? I've never tried. I was in Texas. I was at the bar. I was looking at this. I was like, I should, and I should, and I should.

[Jill Chin]

Are they in Texas?

[Kendall Landris]

A fan?

[Jordan Myrick]

You're so drunk. Like, this incredible bar, the Chevron. I'm like, I'm at the bar. I'm looking. A fan comes up and is like, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, that's so sweet. He was like, oh, you looking at these? I was like, yeah. He was like, get her a whatever she wants. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. So I get this literally thinking about the scene in Las Vegas where Ilya Rozanoff has a in his mouth and he's like, on the bed. I'm like, this is the best anyone's ever looked it's so crazy. So he's the hottest. Yeah, I think.

[Jill Chin]

Did you recreate the scene? Is what I'm gonna ask Mask.

[Jordan Myrick]

Did I recreate the scene in the hotel room? Listen, I'll be honest with you. God knows what I did that night, but we're bleeping this whole episode. Every single thing is getting bleeped. This, this weekend, when I was on tour in Texas, was the worst behaved I've been in a long time. I'm a pretty good. I'm a pretty good guy, but I was not well behaved.

[Kendall Landris]

You got out of control.

[Jordan Myrick]

I was out of control. I was sending text I shouldn't have sent. I, you know, I was not in a good way this weekend. Okay, but. So Ilia Rosenoff Connor Story. Is Ilya Rosenoff Number 1s tier, as the kids would say.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Underneath that, I would say. I think objectively, this is not my personal taste. I think objectively, Hudson Williams would be next.

[Jill Chin]

Interesting.

[Jordan Myrick]

People love his swagger. But for me personally, I would say next would be probably Francois. No, I think he. That's the actor, not the character. So I think Ilya Rosanoff, then Francois Arnault, then Scott Hunter, then while you're inking characters again, then I'm deep in it. I'm balls deep in it. And then Hudson Williams and then Valkyop. Listen, he's too small for me, ultimately, yes.

[Jill Chin]

But he's.

[Jordan Myrick]

Boom.

[Jill Chin]

You see those thighs?

[Kendall Landris]

He's absolutely shocked.

[Jordan Myrick]

And he's once again objectively handsome. And the actor is an unbelievable actor. Me personally, I need a big bitch. Like that. That's. I can't. I'm a big bitch. I need a big bitch. She's five' eleven. Like, I'm not trying to, you know, date a calico critter, but a lot of people are. So there's.

[Kendall Landris]

I.

[Jordan Myrick]

There's nothing wrong with that. It's just like I'm too big to date someone that is so small. I'm sure he's probably the same size as me. I'm. I listen, I could probably in real life. That's what I'll say. But. And I know he's on the edge of a sea, wondering, yeah, he's waiting. But so I would say then, then. So Hudson Williams, then the actor Robbie GK or whatever his name is. He would be next for me. Then Shane, how far are we.

[Jill Chin]

Are we going down to like, then Kip.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. Where does his dad.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're getting to Kips. Dad. Honey, we're getting a Kip's Dad. And that's. Oh, I love the guy to. What's his name? He's on Rosenoff's team. And I think he's a mustache and like longer hair. I think he's hottie. Pattati. He's in there.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't like the Marlo. He's too straight for me. He's like the big tall guy that's on Rosenoff's team.

[Kendall Landris]

And then, you know, the other teammates names.

[Jordan Myrick]

What do you think I'm doing at night? I'm fully turned away from you. Silent. I've never been silent.

[Kendall Landris]

61 of him, literally.

[Jordan Myrick]

Assistant coach. One of my. One of the nicest guys in the league.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I've never been silent for one second of my life. Now every night we go to bed, I'm fully.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Turned away from Kendall.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Reading my fan fiction.

[Kendall Landris]

But I found the woman. I found the girl from the Bachelor. I would marry.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, okay.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, Mary.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, hold on. Pause. Who do you think is the hottest from Heater rivalry?

[Jill Chin]

Ilya Rosanov.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Connor stories. Of course. And I want him to play Adonis.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

He deserves it. And he's such a good actor.

[Jordan Myrick]

He's an amazing actor. Amazing.

[Jill Chin]

Stole the show.

[Jordan Myrick]

What's so interesting to me is that I am not attracted to Connor's story in the same way that I'm attracted to Ilya Rosanoff.

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Which is. That's really good. Because I am attracted to Connor Shore. Don't get me wrong. He's very attractive.

[Jill Chin]

Very attractive.

[Jordan Myrick]

But he feels to me more like men I'm like, friends with.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like he feels very comfortable and safe and good to me. Like I would never be friends with Ilya Rozanoff in real life. Right.

[Kendall Landris]

But you go to town on him. But.

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah, because he's, you know, there's some sort of je ne sais quoi. There's some kind of like.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, it's the Russian. Probably the qua is qua. Ing.

[Kendall Landris]

For sure.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jordan Myrick]

Who's this lady you want to fuck? From the Bachelorette I found.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay. And I actually. I thought about this. I've thought about this. And I remembered is a picture book me.

[Jill Chin]

It.

[Kendall Landris]

It.

[Jill Chin]

Well, you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, we love her.

[Jill Chin]

And it literally would. And I love Susan.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. I would. I would have a field day.

[Jill Chin]

She's giving like, big Ange. God rest his soul. God rest.

[Jordan Myrick]

God rest her soul. Big Ange, we love you. She's giving. Lesbian Kris Jenner.

[Jill Chin]

Absolutely. She is everything that she thinks she is. She is amazing. I Love her.

[Jordan Myrick]

She's the only other person, I think, from the franchise we've ever asked to be on the show.

[Jill Chin]

And what'd she say?

[Jordan Myrick]

We DM'd her. And we were like. Like, queen, come on the show. Sit on our faces. And she was like, I. I'm in an NDA right now, so I can't, but I'd love to in the future.

[Kendall Landris]

That's a lie. Wasn't it? No, this was.

[Jordan Myrick]

It was close to. It was like. It was like, during the b.

[Jill Chin]

That is so.

[Kendall Landris]

But that's the only two because. Yeah, we don't often.

[Jill Chin]

We.

[Kendall Landris]

We don't know anything about so. Ever so often we are. It's just been the two of you. But you are the two. I would be. I would definitely date the two of you.

[Jill Chin]

I'm flattered.

[Jordan Myrick]

My dream of fortune. The two of us, you and her and her. And all of us are giving ups to Big Ang.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, God, yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

But I think the men.

[Kendall Landris]

It's always the men that I like, which is, like, why. I mean, this is the same when I was in high school, and the guys that I would have crushes on, people would be like, what? And I think. Because your taste when you're a closeted lesbian is so weird, but, like, Spencer from the last season, he's on your. Is that his name?

[Jill Chin]

Oh, sweetie.

[Jordan Myrick]

Spencer.

[Kendall Landris]

Spencer.

[Jordan Myrick]

He dated.

[Kendall Landris]

I don't know if they're dating. Jess. I think he's engaged. The growth.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, he. He is. Seems very sweet. He's a little awkward for me, but he's. He seems very nice.

[Kendall Landris]

I liked him. I like and I like. That's the type of guy that I would be like, well, why isn't he the bachelor?

[Jordan Myrick]

And all the women are like, he's.

[Jill Chin]

Because he's so.

[Kendall Landris]

Just.

[Jill Chin]

He's sweet and nice and he's so nice. And I remember I was like, you know, when I was waiting to go on the show, they have you in, like, a room, you know, and you're stuck there. And so I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy. True. No.

[Jordan Myrick]

Any minute.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Well, no, I mainly watch it so I can see Legolas, because that was my sexual awakening. And Orlando Bloom in as Will Turner simultaneously. Like, wow. Like, that went platinum in my head, like five years old. Like, I had stuffed animals next to you, being like, this is legless. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

I completely understand that.

[Jill Chin]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

So anyway, so I told him. He's like, oh, what'd you watch at the hotel? And I told. I told Spencer, you know, I watched the. He's like, you didn't watch the Hobbs bit first?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, that's.

[Jill Chin]

I was like, oh, I love you.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right?

[Kendall Landris]

That's sweet.

[Jill Chin]

I was like, hey.

[Kendall Landris]

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[Jordan Myrick]

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[Kendall Landris]

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[Jill Chin]

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[Kendall Landris]

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[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall's looking for a safe space. So the other week, Kendall's extending an olive branch to you and saying, please say yes.

[Jill Chin]

So.

[Kendall Landris]

So I. The other week, not my stuffed animals, but my.

[Jordan Myrick]

The other week.

[Kendall Landris]

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, yes, honestly, I've done it. I've done it in the last two years. I've made out with my. Not stuffed animals, my pillow, but my.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Kendall Landris]

I said the other day to Jordan, I was like, well, you know, like when you're a teenager and you, like, make out with your pillow. And Jordan was like, no, I've never done that. And I, like, could not believe that

[Jill Chin]

I've made out with my arm, you know, the crack of my arm, just to practice.

[Kendall Landris]

So it wasn't like you were role playing.

[Jill Chin]

I was role playing. But it wasn't in a sexual way.

[Kendall Landris]

Sure, sure. No, it was romantic.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, it was very romantic. And there was that. There was one point where I couldn't choose between Johnny Depp and, you know, what's his name? Jack Sparrow. I couldn't choose between Jack Sparrow And Will Turner. So they were on either side.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I love that. Sophie's Choice.

[Kendall Landris]

But you've never made out with your pillow.

[Jordan Myrick]

No. That is.

[Kendall Landris]

Is great. I. It made me feel like, wait, am I insane?

[Jill Chin]

Well, what's the functionality?

[Kendall Landris]

It's not even just making out. It's like talking to. This was when I was in high school and I, like, had never been in a relationship, so it was like I was going on dates with my pillow. Basically, I would like, lay him down as my pillow and be like, I love you.

[Jordan Myrick]

You were chronically horny.

[Kendall Landris]

Wow. I was.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cuz you weren't doing anything until way late in the game.

[Kendall Landris]

No, I was a virgin for a long time and not even like, I didn't know what. You know how. You know how sex that is these days in this country? Come on. I didn't even know what masturbating was. So I would just like, you know, I mean, it's the classic story. I was like, sitting on my couch one day on like the corner of it, and I was like, what the hell is that for me?

[Jordan Myrick]

All right.

[Kendall Landris]

And then I like, didn't know what it was. So I would, like, do it when like, my friends were over.

[Jordan Myrick]

Because I was like, there's.

[Kendall Landris]

This is.

[Jordan Myrick]

I didn't even know you guys. Check this out.

[Kendall Landris]

Literally, I was like, you guys, have

[Jordan Myrick]

you tried to film this?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, it was great. Did you guys get the book?

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, of course.

[Jill Chin]

No. Your body. The body?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, the American girl doll. What's it called? The art of. It's like you. You and your body or something.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, well, I didn't get that. My. My friend did though. And so we were reading it one night. We're having sleepover. We were reading it one night. We. We learned about masturbation and then that

[Jordan Myrick]

masturbation is in that book.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Damn.

[Jill Chin]

Know your body and so you got.

[Jordan Myrick]

Know your body where to hold them.

[Jill Chin]

And so that night we made a. We made a pillow thing. We had a pillow barrier because we thought that we were. That we were just going to like, for some reason we're like, oh, my God, I didn't know you were capable of that.

[Jordan Myrick]

We have to protect ourselves from each other.

[Kendall Landris]

We put a pillow down and then we both. In my head, you're like, we both

[Jordan Myrick]

straddled on either side. Try it.

[Jill Chin]

No, we were like, we were deeply afraid.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah, no, I didn't get that book. My mom came into my room one night. It's so funny. You're just really like, attacked as a kid sometimes by your Parents. Where you're like, I was just having a night and now you've just come in without asking me.

[Jill Chin]

Of course.

[Kendall Landris]

Full whiteboard. And she said, tonight I'll be talking to you about sex.

[Jill Chin]

Wow.

[Kendall Landris]

And she drew images. And I think she expected. Because I think all my siblings were like, great, please don't talk to me about this. Because probably they'd already all had sex by the time that I would. But I was. My mom was in there for three hours. I had questions. I had more questions. I said, how many penises can you put in a vagina at once?

[Jordan Myrick]

She's like, I need to know this for the future.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. I was like, how many holes are there? How many can you put them? I would like any question you could think of. I was. And my mom was like, okay, all right, let's wind it down.

[Jordan Myrick]

Questions, man, that's amazing. Opposite end. I'm closer to yours. So my aunt gave my cousin the book, right? And then my mom clearly felt like, okay, I guess we're supposed to give the book. So my mom kind of like brought in my. And she was like, hey, you know, we're doing whatever. We're doing like a duffe for dinner and here's a book. And then like left. And I was like, okay. And then I looked at the book and I was like, what is this? But luckily, I had a neighbor that was three years older than me.

[Jill Chin]

Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

Who is responsible for, I mean, everything I've ever done to you, everything I've ever known. She taught me. She was, you know. Really?

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

About that life.

[Kendall Landris]

But kids nowadays, I feel like kids, there'll be like a five year old walk up to me and they'll be

[Jordan Myrick]

like, I have a clitoris.

[Jill Chin]

And I'm like, okay, so wait, what. What did you guys call your private parts at home? I find this fascinating. Fascinating.

[Jordan Myrick]

I.

[Kendall Landris]

That's a good one.

[Jordan Myrick]

Don't think I called it anything.

[Kendall Landris]

I knew not to speak of it

[Jordan Myrick]

really talking about it. But I was. My family is very. I will say I'm an only child and we didn't grow up around much other family. So it was a lot of, like, me hanging out with adults. So I would say I was adultified very early. So it was always just like, if you'll excuse me, I need to use the restroom. When I was like three years old, it was. There were never.

[Kendall Landris]

That's why I'd make my child's beautiful.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. There were never like children's terminology for things because I wasn't a. Around other children.

[Kendall Landris]

We Didn't. Yeah, we didn't. Because I had. I'm the youngest of a lot of older siblings, so a lot of words. We didn't do a ton of like, I can't even say I even as. Until I can't. Like the thought of saying pee pee. I'm just gonna throw. I would, I couldn't let my kids say golf ball. It's like your boys. Yeah, I. I could not do that. But my. We called it. My mom would go down there.

[Jill Chin]

That's so funny.

[Kendall Landris]

And then she'd call the boobs the girls.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Jill Chin]

The girls.

[Kendall Landris]

And then she'd go down there, down there and she'd whisper it. That was part of the word. What about you?

[Jill Chin]

So my parents called it a hootie. Hootie.

[Kendall Landris]

Hootie. And the blowfish. Hootie.

[Jill Chin]

And then my mom called your buttholes the blowfish. Yeah, Boobs. My mom called boobs. And I, I. When I was little, actually up until maybe a couple years ago, I thought that the proper terminology, the full name for boobs was boobalas.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

So I was like, oh yeah. Like it's just like boobs is just slang for boobalas because that's what we're called of was made of.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then a gynecologist had to tell you, no ma', am, that's actually not very old.

[Jill Chin]

When I found out that boobs was not short for boobies.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's really funny. Their full Christian name.

[Jill Chin]

It's just full name.

[Kendall Landris]

But it's weird when your family says something and then you're like, so you're the ones teaching me language. So maybe be a little careful with

[Jordan Myrick]

the words you're saying.

[Kendall Landris]

Cuz I thought that was just what you said. Oh.

[Jill Chin]

And when I first. Cuz when I first heard about lesbians, when I first learned about lesbians, they said, oh, so and so is a lesbian. And so I thought it was a lesbian.

[Kendall Landris]

A lesbian.

[Jordan Myrick]

I actually love that.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'll never forget maybe the most embarrassing I've ever been in my life was a lot of my family's Guatemalan and speak Spanish. And my aunt would call us when we were kids and we were crazy. She would call us cuckoo vaca, which is like cuckoo. Like crazy.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Vodka is cow. So like, oh, you're being like crazy, you know, cuckoo vaca, whatever. But it was like all one word. And I remember one day in elementary school calling someone that at school and someone. And I did a lot of my growing up in South Florida where a Lot of people speak Spanish. And I called someone that at school, and someone was like, what are you talking about? And I was like, I thought you spoke Spanish. That's, you know, whatever. And give me Astro.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I was shocked. I went home and I was like, what is this? And my mom was like, that's a word. That's the thing your Aunt Lizette made up. And I was like, are you kidding me? I'm saying it to everyone. It was so deeply embarrassing.

[Jill Chin]

That's great.

[Jordan Myrick]

I will say I've looked at some pictures. Okay. I think think my gal. You top slot.

[Jill Chin]

Thank you.

[Kendall Landris]

And we're not just.

[Jordan Myrick]

And we're not just.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay. Wow.

[Jordan Myrick]

We're not just saying that.

[Kendall Landris]

Look, I know you're in that relationship.

[Jordan Myrick]

Glasses, honey. Come on. Look at you. Like looking at me in a funhouse mirror.

[Jill Chin]

I'm going on, happy wife, happy life, and I'm not showing up.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. And I love that. Yeah. It's. It's doing it for me. And with the tabby off my finger. And that's one of your shoes. Come on. So, yeah, you're. You're Your top tier, for sure. And then I would say, I love Taisha.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, Taisha. Oh, my God. I was with her.

[Jordan Myrick]

Michelle.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, it's gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeous.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes, yes.

[Jill Chin]

Gorgeous, gorgeous girls.

[Jordan Myrick]

Gorgeous, gorgeous girls.

[Jill Chin]

Beautiful.

[Jordan Myrick]

And then men. I don't know. I think I thought the grocery store guy was cute when I saw him on Paradise.

[Jill Chin]

That's crazy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Really? Tell me more about that. Does he suck?

[Jill Chin]

He is just so. I had to do some podcasts with him.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

And I don't think he cares if

[Jordan Myrick]

I live or die that I hate him. Then I've never been less attracted to him. I.

[Kendall Landris]

That's crazy.

[Jill Chin]

That's, like, on paper, like.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Really? I think I'm like, oh, he's kind of attractive because he seems kind of normal.

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah. But I just, like, don't think he cares about.

[Kendall Landris]

It's so wild. Like, we recently went. I'm gonna try to be so deeply vague about this, but we went to a place where there was a lot of straight men that aren't from life.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's so vague.

[Kendall Landris]

We really.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know. I'm like, where were we?

[Kendall Landris]

You'll know in a minute. But we don't really spend a ton of time around street men. And then, you know, the street men were. It's like our friends, husbands, who are, like, you know, whipped. It's like, they're sweet, special, great men. We go to this thing, and there was A lot of straight men who were not from Los Angeles, who were not in the.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm trying to figure it out. You'll know. Okay.

[Kendall Landris]

And I could not believe my eyes of the way we were treated.

[Jordan Myrick]

I know where this was.

[Kendall Landris]

I was like. Because I'm around, like, a lot of guys that, like, I've curated a very specific group of straight men. And we're very lucky. Our dads were both, like. My dad was really sweet and, like, just view. Just naturally was.

[Jordan Myrick]

We have two gentle dads.

[Kendall Landris]

Gentle dads. Whatever. We go. And these men. It was like they couldn't see us.

[Jill Chin]

Like, I would be like, they don't see us.

[Jordan Myrick]

Hello. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

And they were just like, is there someone's talking? It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. And I was like, I'm. Which. This is bad on me. But I was like, I'm gay. Like, I'm one of the guys.

[Jordan Myrick]

Like, what are you doing? I'm halfway to being a boy.

[Kendall Landris]

Literally. I was like, what?

[Jordan Myrick]

And they were.

[Kendall Landris]

I was like, why aren't you guys, like, asking me, like, how to eat pussies? Like, that's what the guy guys always ask me. They were just like, did not care.

[Jordan Myrick]

We find out that all these men are, like, really nice. And Kendall just went up to a group of men being like, hey, you guys want to know how to eat pussy? And they were like, miss, please leave. No, they were just.

[Kendall Landris]

I couldn't believe it. They. But we were. I mean, they didn't know.

[Jill Chin]

You're subhuman.

[Kendall Landris]

It was a woman.

[Jill Chin]

To a straight man, you are subhuman.

[Jordan Myrick]

Who's the nicest guy from the Bachelor franchise? Ooh.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, I love that. Oh, shit. Oh, Dean Bell Boat.

[Jordan Myrick]

Dean Dean Bell.

[Jill Chin]

Well, he's my family uncle alert. He's married to Kaylin.

[Jordan Myrick]

He's. Must he. He got a mustache at one point. And he has a brother. Did his brother come on the show at one point?

[Jill Chin]

You know, I don't know. I don't know if he does. Yep.

[Jordan Myrick]

Kendall, show the crowd. Kendall showed the crowd.

[Kendall Landris]

Dr. D. P. Bell.

[Jordan Myrick]

You are so bad at listening. Dean Ungler.

[Jill Chin]

That. That's his former. Then we got married. They changed their name together.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's beautiful.

[Kendall Landris]

Is it him again?

[Jill Chin]

That's a really great try.

[Kendall Landris]

Notable in accounting and consulting for 2022.

[Jordan Myrick]

Congratulations.

[Jill Chin]

Notable for much other than. And I. God bless him. He's on this new show again.

[Jordan Myrick]

So there you go. That's okay. And he's the one who. He actually had the craziest hometown of all time.

[Jill Chin]

He did.

[Jordan Myrick]

He's the one who. Van Life went to the hometown. He does Van Life. But his. They went to like, he was like, I do not have a good relationship with my dad. My dad's a freak, My stepmom's weird, like, whatever. And then go. And I think you're thinking like, you know, so many people on the Bachelor are like, I don't know, things at home are like, different. And then you go home and it's like, it's like so normal. It was like they went to his home. His dad lives in like a yurt and it's like a white guy wearing like a bindi or whatever. That's how. I'm sure that's not true, but that's what I remember in my mind's eye. And they all sat on the floor and like, his, like, my hometown, they were just being very, like, weird. And he literally. I feel like 10 minutes into it is like, I have to leave. And they leave.

[Jill Chin]

I felt so bad.

[Jordan Myrick]

I remember watching it being like this. This is the most real moment in reality television I've maybe ever seen. And it gave me a lot of respect for him. So I'm happy to hear that he's nice.

[Kendall Landris]

Do you ever, like. Because I love. Okay, well, it would really just be my mom. But I love my mom so much. And honestly, she'd be great on it. But I feel like I still would, like, want to be out by episode five or before hometowns for sure. Because I think the thought of camera crews coming to my hometown maybe makes me want to throw up more than I can even picture.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

No, that would be strange. Having my parents on camera would be crazy.

[Kendall Landris]

Cuz I'm kid. Some people, what are they like, lucky with my mom. But I'm like, some people, it's like

[Jordan Myrick]

their parents should not be on camera.

[Jill Chin]

No. Like, my dad is so funny. So my dad is so. This is also not funny. So my dad is Chinese and my mom is white. And usually it's the opposite way around.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

The other way around. And to the point where, like, people have come up to me and been like, I bet your daddy met your mom in Vietnam. And I was like, you're like, actually,

[Jordan Myrick]

my mommy met my daddy in Vietnam. And that's progressive.

[Jill Chin]

How old do you think I am? Like the Vietnam War. Like, they met, like, what?

[Kendall Landris]

That is?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, my. I was like, wow. Okay. No. So they made a video store. My dad was like stalking my mom.

[Jordan Myrick]

They met at a video store. Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

So he kept buying and VHS at the time were like, very expensive. So he was spending money at the video store to. To like visit her. And he was. Send her flowers. He did court her, but he's like a very traditional, like Chinese man. And then my mom is like some WASPy white woman, Rhode island, very like, you know.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah, I love.

[Jordan Myrick]

And was she immediately like, I love this man, or did she take some coaxing?

[Jill Chin]

I think it. It took some coaxing, but. And he was over and he went to San Francisco for a little bit to like visit his aunt or something. And he got a call. He like, called the video store and you know, the. The other associate knew that he had a crush on, you know, my mom. He's like, chrissy's single. And then. So then he bought her a San Francisco shirt, flew back and the rest.

[Jordan Myrick]

He bought her a San Francisco shirt. It's so funny.

[Kendall Landris]

And when she saw him, was she

[Jordan Myrick]

like, oh, dear, here it comes. Cause I'm a Chinese guy.

[Kendall Landris]

Every parent's story, like all of our parents stories, your parents is nice. But I have like so many people.

[Jordan Myrick]

You hear them.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, maybe it's similar. It's like you hear your parents story and you're like, this is nowadays would be considered an illegal situation.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, well, this is what I'll say. No, my parents are not like that. But my mom, they went on like a normal date. And then, you know, I would say, historically, my mom is a little cold. I think it's changing as she gets older. And also I feel like my mom has softened a lot since I've come out, which is really sweet. Like, my mom, a nurse, come out, like out of like her body because I've come out of her. My mom has gotten a lot softer. No, I think that's the opposite. I think I made my mom harder. But I like, since I came out as gay, like one time Kendall and my mom went to Home Depot to like, buy something. Yeah. And then they popped in the Walgreens next door so my mom could buy a like, Gay Pride shirt to wear during pride month to the hospital where she works as an ICU nurse. Like, so my mom. But like, historically, my mom's like. She plays her cards really close to her chest. She's a little like. I think people. My dad always describes her as like, when they were younger, she was very aloof. A lot of people thought was she. She was mean or rude because she's a little mean.

[Kendall Landris]

Like after their first date, he was like. I was like, she's never gonna see me again. And Then she was like, when are we going on a second date? Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

So it was like they got set up. My parents, my mom and dad both moved around a lot. They moved to the same place. My dad went to college. My mom went to college a couple years later. And then they randomly got set up by friends. Even though they went to the same high school. They didn't know each other in high school.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, excuse me.

[Jordan Myrick]

The David Yurman ring that I favorited on ebay is on sale.

[Kendall Landris]

Do you need to take a minute?

[Jordan Myrick]

No, no, no, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. She got a bid in. Yeah, I gotta put a bid in. $2,000. So my, they got set up on a blind date. They go on this blind date. My, my dad said, my mom walks out, she's wearing high heels. My mom's almost 6ft tall. My, my dad's probably like 5 10, 5, 11. My mom walks out, she's wearing high heels. She looks him up and down. She goes, well, this won't do. She goes back inside, puts on flats, comes back outside. They go on this date. He's like, this woman is hot, but she does not like me. So he drops her and she goes, well. And he's like, well, what? She's like, when are we doing this again? Which honestly is giving me a little bit. So I, I, that's how I kind

[Kendall Landris]

of felt on our first date. I remember after a while I was like, oh, no, I think they like me. But I remember distinctly, there's like, in the first five minutes of our first date, I went, she's never going to

[Jordan Myrick]

want to see me again.

[Kendall Landris]

There's no way. Like you. I just immediately was like, there's no way. And then over time, I was like,

[Jordan Myrick]

okay, yeah, I think I can be a little aloof too, despite how much I share. But then my dad, after, you know, whatever, a year or two, proposed to my mom. And, and my mom was like, no. She's like, we're just young. I just don't, I don't. I just feel like I have, like, other stuff to do.

[Jill Chin]

Well, I mean, yeah, fair.

[Jordan Myrick]

And my dad was like, okay, sure, yeah. And then, like, two weeks later, she called him back and she was like, you know what? Let's do it.

[Jill Chin]

Let's do it.

[Jordan Myrick]

My parents have been. My parents have been happily married. My parents really got along. My parents have been happily married for what, 30, 40 years?

[Kendall Landris]

No, I just, like, my dad would tell me stories. Stories.

[Jordan Myrick]

You know, it's like, and your dad was a hot Mess express. I'll say that much.

[Kendall Landris]

He would be like, trying to, you know, your parents telling you this romantic story. And it's like, my dad's like, well, then I told her. I told her I was sick. I lied. I told her I was sick. And so then I, I. And she said, well, I don't care because we're broken up. And then my mom's like. And then I was driving, and I look at my rear view and there he is in a bush. I'm like, this is not romantic. Let's.

[Jordan Myrick]

Please, please. Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landris]

But it just reminded me of that.

[Jill Chin]

Yours is much sweeter.

[Jordan Myrick]

I think this is maybe the nicest adult dating story I've ever heard. I mean, I think the video store is so charming, so of a time.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, it is indicative of the time.

[Jordan Myrick]

And is your dad also from Rhode Island?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. So he was. He's an ABC American born Chinese. He's one of 11, which is crazy. Also, I don't know if you know this. My family's ghost hunters.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wait, okay, we have to give you back.

[Kendall Landris]

We have to just have.

[Jordan Myrick]

How much time do we have? Wait, what?

[Jill Chin]

I know, I know, I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

What do you mean, your family's ghost hunters?

[Jill Chin]

So my only siblings.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do you have.

[Jill Chin]

I only have one sister. Okay. Yeah, older. She's a doctor, thank God. So she got the brains. I got everything else.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah. Wait, but how are her boobs big?

[Jill Chin]

Really?

[Jordan Myrick]

We got to get her on the Bachelor. She's a doctor with a huge rack. Get her on the Bachelor.

[Jill Chin]

No, she's married. Oh, she's married. But yeah, so she's like, you know, she's the, like, every Asian person's dream.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God. Dr. Child with a big rack.

[Jill Chin]

And then there's me. But if we combined, we be the. We be on second. Be the. Be the perfect person. But yes. So my uncle was on the show Ghost Hunters International, and then my dad took up ghost hunting in his spare time.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm like, I gotta meet your dad.

[Kendall Landris]

Do you believe in ghosts?

[Jill Chin]

Of course I do.

[Kendall Landris]

And you've seen? Yes. What do you mean? What did you see?

[Jill Chin]

So this was actually the day when I. Before I left for the Bachelor, I had, like, a really crazy encounter. It was at my friend's house, and someone had recently passed across the street. And, well, I don't know if it was him, but I remember walking out of my friend's house. She lives at, like, the bottom of a hill in the middle of the woods. You know, we're very rural people. Middle of the woods. And so I walk out, and I'm like. I immediately feel weird. And I'm like, no, something's not right. And I've been. You know, I grew up in this house. I'm like, why do I feel like this? So I'm like, whatever. Just, like, keep walking. So I go up, and then I see this, like, giant, like, larger than life, like, black mass. And then I hear. Hear it.

[Kendall Landris]

I hear.

[Jill Chin]

It's, like, running towards me. And I go. I scream, and I run back inside. I'm like, guys, there's something out there. Whatever. And then all my friends, like, you're crazy. Like, let's go see what's out there. I'm like, check the ring camera. Check the ring camera. And the only footage that was corrupted were those two time stamps.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's not a ghost. You saw the chupacabra.

[Jill Chin]

And so I was like, okay, that's crazy. So then. So then I called my friend who had already left, and when she picks up, she's like, did you feel weird leaving reals? And I was like, yeah, I saw something crazy. And then. So then I. And then I call my dad. Obviously, I'm like, dad. And so, you know, when he comes back from a ghost hunt, he puts salt at the end of the driveway.

[Jordan Myrick]

Of course, keep mounting.

[Jill Chin]

Right? He's very. We're very safe. We're very safe. Ghost hunter.

[Jordan Myrick]

I love that.

[Jill Chin]

So then he's like, oh, you have, like, the. You know, it's family gift, and it's called what? He said the cat eyes in Chinese were like, you know, whatever. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm going the Bachelor tomorrow. Like, I actually can't explore this side of me right now, so I'm just going to, like, forget about it. So, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay. Hosting a ghost show. I'm like, I'm the best in this. You hosting a ghost show would be the greatest thing I can imagine.

[Jordan Myrick]

And with your dad.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. And I deal with, like, historic houses, too, so I'm always in the. And so I. Kendall and I are

[Jordan Myrick]

starting a production company to do this.

[Kendall Landris]

No, we're not. My. This house we were gonna buy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

I have something to invest in.

[Jill Chin]

And then it's funny because. So I took, like, a cemetery's class. I like his. I restored historic, like, headstones. I did research on them and everything. And then the guy that I'm dating now, his mom carves headstones. God.

[Jordan Myrick]

Family business. Oh, my God. How sweet is that?

[Kendall Landris]

Wait, are you mean, like, you would go, like, do. Because I Watch those tik toks where they, like, clean and they, like, chisel off the dirt.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. So I would. If, like, a stone was broken. Broken, I would fix it. Yeah. And we would clean and we would, you know, do all that.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's good karma.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

But you know what you should do there? Have you ever been to Sinespia in Los Angeles?

[Jill Chin]

No.

[Jordan Myrick]

The Hollywood Forever Cemetery.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, okay. Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

Okay. And that's an interesting place because the, the stones are pretty much. It's a garden cemetery. Right. So it's like rolling hills. So that was during the era of cemeteries when people were like, we don't actually want to think about death. Like, we just want to think about how beautiful, rather than, you know, death being very, you know, a monument. It being. So this was the era which people didn't really want to think about death. A garden cemetery.

[Jordan Myrick]

I'm really more and more titillated you by you. I'm just more and more tilted by you every moment.

[Jill Chin]

My nipples are hard.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely. Okay. We've done no questions, and we have, like, no time.

[Kendall Landris]

If you're like, wait, I didn't get to ask a question. That's because you don't follow us on Instagram. So look in the mirror and deal with that. Go follow us on Instagram at Happy wife, Happy life. HWHL Podcast. Podcast. And you can ask questions. We always post questions there. And also, if you want to know the guest in advance and you want to ask specific questions, you can join our patreon.

[Jordan Myrick]

Is alcohol unlimited?

[Jill Chin]

No. You have a limit. It's by your weight. So you.

[Jordan Myrick]

So they weigh you?

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah, you know. You know, to me.

[Jordan Myrick]

Right, yeah. Girls are lying. 300 pounds. Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

So there's, yeah, there's a limit, and they keep track. And there's like, you have a little picture and they check off every hour they have.

[Kendall Landris]

But that's new, huh?

[Jordan Myrick]

That's new, right? It hasn't always been that way.

[Kendall Landris]

You know what's sad? I, I, I, you know, I, I think it's good. They're doing a lot of things now to be like, this has to be safer. Reality TV has to be safer. But sometimes you're not getting as good tv, right? Exactly. People are not drunk and they're not dehydrated, and that's where stuff comes.

[Jill Chin]

But we are tired, angry. Yes. It works out.

[Jordan Myrick]

How long does filming actually take for a season?

[Jill Chin]

For Bachelor, it could be two months if you make a bar. And then for paradise, it's quick. It's like a month. Wow. Yeah. And then you're in. Engaged.

[Jordan Myrick]

Did your experience on the Bachelor suck, or was it awesome? If you had to pick, there's no in between.

[Jill Chin]

Suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Kendall Landris]

Love you, ABC

[Jill Chin]

bring me back.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do participants actually think they're going to find a good relationship girl?

[Jill Chin]

Yes. I thought that, too. I. I was mainlining the Kool Aid. Like, I was like, I'm going to be one of those people. Yeah. No, I. I would convince myself so hard. I have, like, journal entries, and I'm like, what the. Like, I'm reading back my journal. I'm like, this is so pathetic. Like, I'm embarrassed to actually be you.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, so once you got there and you're like, okay, I can make myself, like, attracted to Clayton. Clayton, right.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Did you ever, like, convince yourself? Were you like, wait, I actually want

[Jill Chin]

to marry him 100%.

[Kendall Landris]

I'm obsessed with that.

[Jill Chin]

It's a hell of a drug.

[Kendall Landris]

But that's why I tell people, I know this is bad advice, but I'm like, you can make your. Like, when girls of my, like, girlfriends of mine, like, I just can't, like, find a guy that like. Like that every guy, like, is, like, a bad person. Like, and I'm like, you can actually make yourself love anyone.

[Jill Chin]

No, you actually can because I did it. And the environment, it's like. It's all around him, and they're hyping him up, and so you're like, well, yeah, like, it's him.

[Jordan Myrick]

Sure.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Is there a contract for the winners to stay with the Bachelor for a certain amount of time, or does it not matter?

[Jill Chin]

No, it doesn't matter.

[Jordan Myrick]

Do you think they'll ever make a queer version of the Bachelor?

[Jill Chin]

I hope they didn't outstrip.

[Kendall Landris]

Yes.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yes. I just don't think it works, unfortunately. I think the formatting. The formatting of the show doesn't work. The whole point of the more creative it can be a different show. And they had a show like this for gay men, I mean, years and years ago, but it was like they all just had sex with each other. So the show didn't work.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. Well, there was a bisexual bachelorette. I think she had both men and women. Oh.

[Kendall Landris]

And how did that go? She ended up with a man, though. Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

I don't know.

[Kendall Landris]

I did love that. The season of the Bachelor in paradise where Demi me.

[Jill Chin]

Yes.

[Kendall Landris]

They bring the woman on.

[Jill Chin]

Brought her own.

[Kendall Landris]

Brought her on from out.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

That is the craziest thing ever. But I was like, oh, well, maybe they could do a mix where I think the bisexual woman is fun. Although then it hurts. Then you're like, I. It feels like a hate crime if she marries a man. Like, it feels really mean.

[Jill Chin]

It does feel like.

[Jordan Myrick]

It feels like.

[Kendall Landris]

Why'd you make us watch?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I just think it's totally flawed in terms of what the show would be. I think they could do a queer Love is Blind.

[Jill Chin]

I was gonna wear Love is Blind

[Jordan Myrick]

is perfect, where everyone stayed separate, though everyone's in their own hotel room. So it's like the circle meets Love is Blind. I think they could do a gay version of that.

[Kendall Landris]

I think it's hard on the Bachelor because I think what would happen is what happened on that one girl season of the Bachelor, Bachelorette, where she immediately met. What's his name, Dale.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landris]

That's what a lesbian season would be. I think they would be the first day I'd meet the first girl, and I'd go, well, that's my wife.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

And I would be locked in.

[Jill Chin]

Well, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Really hard to. Not.

[Jill Chin]

Because lesbians are operating at a higher frequency. Like.

[Kendall Landris]

Right.

[Jill Chin]

This is.

[Kendall Landris]

No, I'm trying to lock it down. We're trying to buy a farm. Exactly.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

You know, messing around.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely. Absolutely. What is the food like on the show? Are you responsible for your own meals? Do they have catering? Can you bring your own snacks?

[Jill Chin]

Okay, so this is interesting. So when you're in the mansion, you have to cook your own food, and so they bring in food for you to cook. What they don't tell you is that there's 20 women using one kitchen, and there was one set of pots and pans.

[Kendall Landris]

What's like the. That's insane.

[Jill Chin]

It was look or say it was nice, but there was one.

[Kendall Landris]

Hard to wash. So heavy.

[Jill Chin]

Hard to wash. Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

What's like the snack that. Because I'm just like. That's such a specific group of women. Like, what is the snack that's being mostly consumed? Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

What are people are eating or not eating?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. So there's Go macro bars, Gummy bears. There was, like, a huge wall of, like, little snacks that you could pick at.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's fun.

[Jill Chin]

So those are big.

[Kendall Landris]

They going big on the chomps.

[Jill Chin]

I see Chomps weren't out back when I was on the show.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God, you're aging me. Yeah.

[Jill Chin]

But on. On the HGTV show, I just did chomps. Right. Big. But then on paradise, it. It's like a resource. You can order whatever you want, and it's so nice. Oh, my God. It's so nice.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I love that. How influential are individual contestants, producers on what people do slash say or how much they're shown?

[Jill Chin]

Quite.

[Jordan Myrick]

So are people lusting after certain producers? Are people like this? Because you know, you all get a one on one producer. To my understanding. Yeah. Are there people couple. Okay. Okay. And are there people where it's like Brian is the top tier producer. Everybody wants Brian to be their producer.

[Jill Chin]

You know their ranking for sure. It. There's definitely. You can see the hierarchy.

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Jill Chin]

But also you develop such a friendship. Like I'm friends with my producers, like to this day. Like I love them. And you trust them because they're. You're only tethered to the real world.

[Kendall Landris]

Yes.

[Jill Chin]

You don't have anything else. So you, you are trusting them. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you felt like they were genuine and not evil.

[Jill Chin]

I mean you had to take everything. Grain of salt. Like I knew telling. Yeah. It's a mix. Some there was like villain producers. Like you're like, oh, like this one's going to be problem. But yeah, I mean they're all there to make good TV and I'm willing to play ball. Like it's fun. I'm just having fun. I'm enjoying the amenities.

[Kendall Landris]

Well, especially if you're like, okay, you're going to make. Because I think it's probably. I always think of like on Dance Moms or Honey Boo Boo. I always think about. It's wild. These people, it's like they, the producers are like their parents. Like they're literally their parents. And it's this weird dynamic of like I've seen some clips of Honey Boo Boo where it's like I should. I got it. I should not watch that show. But I can't stop. And it's like. Or I guess now it's June Hot to not. Doesn't matter.

[Jordan Myrick]

But anyway, don't plug it. She's not here.

[Kendall Landris]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know why, but she.

[Kendall Landris]

But the producers, it's like they're trying to make good drama. But then like there are moments where the, even the producers, it's like they have to put their job aside and they're like, this is too crazy.

[Jill Chin]

No, they've like cried with me like behind the camera. Like I'm doing an interview and they're getting very emotional. Like that happens. We, we develop like really amazing like connections with these people.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, are people fighting off camera or do we see all the fights?

[Jill Chin]

You pretty much see all the fights because you know you're miked up all the time. So if they hear something a foot, they're running.

[Kendall Landris]

And I love. Have you ever tried to, like, start a fight to be like, I got to get some screen time?

[Jill Chin]

No, it just happens, dude. It just like. And it's even on, like, Bachelor Takeover, which I just filmed. Drama just happened. It was an HGTV show when there was drama Mama.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow. Were you jealous of other women on the shows you've been on?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, I'm like, why is she getting all the dates? Yeah, of course. Of course.

[Jordan Myrick]

And I'm not gonna make you say who, but do you have a nemesis in the franchise?

[Jill Chin]

They come and go because you do.

[Kendall Landris]

You. You killed him. They come and go.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, I just, like, they. They just don't become as relevant in your life. Like, it seems like all pervasive. Been like, oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

All encompassing.

[Jill Chin]

Like, this person's terrorizing me. But then you just, like, don't care anymore. And I'm at. I'm at that age where, like, I just. I just can't deal with it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Was there anything cut from your season that you wish hadn't been cut?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, all my scenes, all the bits I was doing. No, I had, like, a medic scene where, like, I had to call the medic out and, like, yeah, they took my blood sugar, and they did all.

[Kendall Landris]

And, like.

[Jill Chin]

And of course, the camera's, like, right here.

[Kendall Landris]

And you were thinking. You said, God.

[Jill Chin]

I was like, you're like, this is

[Jordan Myrick]

going to be in the trailer.

[Jill Chin]

Absolutely. And they did put, like. Like, laying on the ground, but then they never put it in. I was like, oh.

[Jordan Myrick]

Which just makes it seem like you're crying over, like, just being.

[Jill Chin]

Yes. So dramatic.

[Jordan Myrick]

Absolutely. Okay, final question. How did your parents feel about it?

[Jill Chin]

They were like, you're crazy. But they know how I am. And so they're like, okay. And then it just, like, kept working out. And then, like, I started to get cool stuff. Like, you know, I brought my dad to the Patriots game field, and he's like, all right. Like, this is kind of cool. You know, if somebody, you know, I get, like, free stuff every now and then, and they're like, oh, okay. Like, they like that aspect of it.

[Jordan Myrick]

And do they watch

[Jill Chin]

sometimes?

[Jordan Myrick]

Okay.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, but they. They know, like, I got my job from the show because they're like, you know, the zoning officer saw me on the show and was like, we need a preservation planner. Let's hire her.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow.

[Kendall Landris]

So funny.

[Jill Chin]

That's really fun.

[Jordan Myrick]

And, Jill, plug the show you're on

[Jill Chin]

right now, so it's Called Bachelor Mansion Takeover. And this is my camera. It's called Bachelor Mansion Takeover. It's on HGTV and hbo.

[Jordan Myrick]

Max. I mean, that's kind of cool. Huge.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Same network as all of our boys on Heated Rivalry.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Myrick]

You're on the same network as them. Oh, my God.

[Jill Chin]

Wait, I also have gifts for you guys.

[Jordan Myrick]

What?

[Kendall Landris]

You do not.

[Jill Chin]

I do. And they're. And they're specific to you guys. Okay.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, my God.

[Jill Chin]

We never had.

[Jordan Myrick]

I don't know anyone really. Well, Ash Perez brought us little cards, but that seems like child's play now compared to a gift.

[Jill Chin]

Okay.

[Kendall Landris]

So they.

[Jill Chin]

They are personal. Okay. So have you read this book? No.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, okay. We'll have fun.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, my God. So this book is so kind. Sorry. Yes. So it's. It's a very quick read.

[Jordan Myrick]

You'll read it.

[Jill Chin]

You'll gobble it up. It's very, like.

[Kendall Landris]

It's so good.

[Jill Chin]

It's like. I actually can't explain it because it'll

[Kendall Landris]

give it away, but it's so up my alley.

[Jill Chin]

Lesbians. Yeah.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

Chill. This is. I'm gonna read this New day.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah. And then you'll be like, why did you give me that book?

[Kendall Landris]

No, I always love to the top. Where is it? Where they put, like, a little part. Oh. When Sweet Romance Turns Deadly.

[Jordan Myrick]

I mean. Yeah, that's right up your alley.

[Kendall Landris]

I want read. This is so nice.

[Jordan Myrick]

And you've read.

[Jill Chin]

I've read. And you love read. Well, it's like you just got.

[Kendall Landris]

I got to read all.

[Jill Chin]

And then I got you the Noa Cook I love. Don't have it. No, I don't have it.

[Jordan Myrick]

Cookbook. But I lived in New York for a very long time, so I would go here, and when my dad would come to town, this was his favorite place to go, and we would go together. Oh, my God.

[Jill Chin]

That's.

[Kendall Landris]

I love dim sum.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, You're a big. Okay, so the next time you're in town, we have to go get dim sum.

[Kendall Landris]

Of course we have a favorite dim sum restaurant. That is so good. It's like cart dim sum.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's like, so it's far.

[Jill Chin]

Love that.

[Kendall Landris]

But we'll.

[Jordan Myrick]

You'll get in our car and we'll travel.

[Jill Chin]

Is far.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, I know.

[Kendall Landris]

I know.

[Jill Chin]

So crazy.

[Kendall Landris]

This is really. I feel like I could cry. I'm so excited.

[Jill Chin]

So sweet.

[Kendall Landris]

And you've actually done a great thing because we're taking her to our final segment, which is, John, if you could pull up the image. Oh, we. And this is really serious. We're picking a third.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, we're doing a bracket this season. So all of our guests get put into the bracket of who could potentially be our third. And then at the end of the season, we'll find out who is the ultimate third.

[Kendall Landris]

Okay, so we have happening right now, so.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, my God.

[Kendall Landris]

So you're going to up against our friend.

[Jordan Myrick]

Our friend Kara Connors, hilarious comedian. I'll tell you right now. No, it's Kara's toast. Bye, Kara.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh, really?

[Jordan Myrick]

I love her.

[Kendall Landris]

On her episode, we said we can't the compatibility. Her and I are too similar. We would be in prison. It would be okay. She and I love her dearly.

[Jordan Myrick]

She's a maniac. And she didn't bring a gift.

[Kendall Landris]

And she didn't bring a gift. She doesn't even know probably how to

[Jill Chin]

Wait, so wait, so you're choosing.

[Kendall Landris]

We're picking. So. No, you have to kind of sell yourself a little.

[Jill Chin]

Oh.

[Kendall Landris]

So. And. And we're. We're not messing around. This isn't a joke. Okay, Jill, So you need to like, think how would you be compatible with the two of us?

[Jill Chin]

This is.

[Kendall Landris]

I mean, we're. We'd be living together.

[Jill Chin]

Okay.

[Kendall Landris]

There's a lot.

[Jordan Myrick]

We'd be loving together.

[Kendall Landris]

We'd be loving together.

[Jill Chin]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Kendall Landris]

So you kind of sell why you think to Jordan and I, you'd be a good third.

[Jill Chin]

Okay, well, obviously, I love giving gifts. I am a gift myself. I think that I can broth, you know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Good.

[Kendall Landris]

We could do a three prom team.

[Jordan Myrick]

Good. We're trying to do more improv at home.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, definitely bring that into the home. Into the bedroom.

[Kendall Landris]

Spontaneity.

[Jill Chin]

Right? Exactly. I will eat your food.

[Kendall Landris]

Thank you.

[Jill Chin]

But I have experience, you know, I think I'm on overall delight.

[Kendall Landris]

You.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, of course I think you have a girl job.

[Kendall Landris]

We were craving that job. Right?

[Jill Chin]

Exact. I have stability.

[Kendall Landris]

I got to piss.

[Jill Chin]

Pension.

[Jordan Myrick]

A pension.

[Kendall Landris]

What's that shoe do you wear? Huh? What's that shoe?

[Jill Chin]

Oh, six and a half.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah. That's not what.

[Jill Chin]

We're not going to work.

[Kendall Landris]

Oh.

[Jill Chin]

Are you guys the same?

[Jordan Myrick]

Yeah, we're tens.

[Jill Chin]

You're soul mates.

[Kendall Landris]

I know.

[Jordan Myrick]

Soulmates. And that's so true. Listen, I'm saying you're beating Cara, and I'm also going to go ahead and say it. You're beating Drew.

[Jill Chin]

Really? Oh, I can't possibly be Drew.

[Jordan Myrick]

Well, we love. Well, we love Drew too, but I'm like, I'm. Well, you just looked at me and said, I'll eat your. So it's hard to. It's hard to. You know, Drew certainly didn't say that. So it's. I feel like, how can you compete?

[Kendall Landris]

But we might need to give her the opportunity to speak. You know, we're gonna.

[Jordan Myrick]

We'll reach out. Yeah, yeah.

[Kendall Landris]

The top four. Figure out what to do to, you know, to compete.

[Jordan Myrick]

Wow.

[Kendall Landris]

But I'm on the Joe train to do. I think you're going to be. You're definitely, I think, going to be top two, but I don't want to speak out of turn.

[Jill Chin]

Oh, my God. Wait. You obviously have the other contenders lined

[Kendall Landris]

up, I don't think. No, we were very unorganized at the way you. Well, we just kind of like, we'll meet. We'll be like, come on the podcast,

[Jordan Myrick]

you know, but it's all vibes based.

[Kendall Landris]

We don't know. But if you do win or maybe even get top two, we might have to. We might have to have you back.

[Jill Chin]

I mean, God forbid.

[Jordan Myrick]

I hate that you live so far away.

[Jill Chin]

I know. But I am willing to travel.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's good. And we'll travel, too. I love to go on a little northeast vacation.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, it is. Oh, my God. In the summer. Gorgeous sailboat school by drinking an Adirondack.

[Jordan Myrick]

Oh, we love a boat.

[Kendall Landris]

Are you, like, you're locked in?

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, I'm locked in. I love that girl. I love that feel. Like LA is just sprawling.

[Kendall Landris]

Yeah, sure. Well, we always move. We live it. We live in. We like to live in a small. We'll go to, like, the outskirts a little bit where we're living in kind of like next to a school zone with a bunch of families. Like, we don't like living in the thick of it.

[Jill Chin]

Yeah, of course.

[Kendall Landris]

So I get that. But thank you so much for coming.

[Jordan Myrick]

Thank you so much. This was such a treat. We absolutely loved this. And as always, don't forget that Kendall and I pay for this podcast ourselves. So make sure to, like, comment, subscribe, tell everyone everything about us. Join our Patreon.

[Kendall Landris]

We have a book club going on right now that's an absolute hoot and a holler.

[Jordan Myrick]

It's great.

[Kendall Landris]

I'm reading a lesbian hockey book to try to get on the heated rivalry train.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep.

[Kendall Landris]

And it's a hoot and a holler.

[Jordan Myrick]

Yep. And I'm reading a Gillian Flynn book. That's scary.

[Kendall Landris]

So sign up for that.

[Jordan Myrick]

So sign up and just join.

[Kendall Landris]

Thank you so much. And we can see you on HGTV.

[Jill Chin]

You can see him on HGTV. Follow me on Instagram. Jilchin. Underscore or follow my TikTok. I don't really know what it is. I'm not really active on social media.

[Jordan Myrick]

That's okay.

[Kendall Landris]

We'll.

[Jordan Myrick]

We'll post them all so you can follow them anyway. But yeah, Jill, thank you so much. Thanks everybody, for watching. We'll see you next Monday.

[Jill Chin]

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