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Jill Chin
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Kendall Landris
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Jordan Myrick
Welcome to happy Wife, Happy Life.
Kendall Landris
We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landris.
Jordan Myrick
And I'm Jordan Myrick.
Kendall Landris
And we are two incredibly unqualified but
Jordan Myrick
deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationship. And on today's episode, we're talking with Jill Chin about all things Bachelor. Jill, you're our favorite person from the
Jill Chin
franchise, which is actually crazy. I didn't know I had shooters out there like that.
Jordan Myrick
Are you serious? You're the hottest and funniest. Oh, my God.
Kendall Landris
Literally, when we saw you, we were watching Bachelor of Paradise.
Jordan Myrick
We watched. Well, I. You know, I'm. And this is something we started to talk about earlier that I said, stop. We have to save it for the pod. I'm not a fan, but I'm a watcher. Right? You know, I think it's like voyeurism. It'd be against my morals to say that I'm a fan, but I have seen every single season and know every single person, and you've all always been a favorite for me. I think you're so funny, so fun, so beautiful. But I made Kendall a convert. When we watched Bachelor in Paradise when you were on the. What was it? The newest season where everything was different.
Jill Chin
Yes, yes, yes.
Jordan Myrick
It was crazy. We were trying to figure out. I was like, I don't know if I like this or not. But as soon as you came on, Kendall was like, I love this lady. Who is that?
Jill Chin
Who is she?
Kendall Landris
I said, who is that? There was one conversation you were having with someone.
Jill Chin
It was probably Justin, and when he
Kendall Landris
said something, you went, yeah, yeah.
Jill Chin
Oh, that was Jonathan. Yes.
Jordan Myrick
I made a rewind. So funny.
Kendall Landris
Funny like seven times. Because I was like, I've always. I'm like, that would be.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
You were bringing like, I've always been like, there needs to be a lesbian on the Bachelor.
Jill Chin
Yes, yes.
Kendall Landris
And I was like, you're at least bringing that energy.
Jill Chin
I'm bringing the energy. It's funny because my friends were like, jill, you've been attracted to women for a long time.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
And I'm like, that's not true at all. I'm like, what are you talking about? And they brought me back. I was like, oh, yeah, okay. So. No, I do. I. I love my lesbian community, and I love that.
Jordan Myrick
And the fans can really sense that. And then Kendall and I immediately got on our ph. We both followed you because we don't really follow anyone unless we're friends with them in person. But we were like, she's so funny. We got to follow her, and maybe she'll follow back into the podcast. And now everything's come full circle.
Jill Chin
Oh, my God. No. When I saw you guys follow me, I was like, Cuz I see you guys on Tik Tok all the time, and I love, like, your mom. Are you from the Midwest? You know what?
Kendall Landris
I'm not.
Jordan Myrick
If you can believe.
Jill Chin
Well, you. You body.
Kendall Landris
Okay, thank you so much. I watched a lot of family vloggers growing up, though.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my.
Jill Chin
No, the family vloggers. Did you watch the Shade? Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Did I watch. Yeah, yeah.
Kendall Landris
You want to know something crazy?
Jill Chin
Is that Scandal?
Jordan Myrick
Well, it's so crazy that their name is the Shay. Well, Kendall, what was up with that? So I'm not part of this culture. This is different for me. This was a new thing I learned about when Kendall and I got together years ago. And Kendall was like, well, you know, the family vloggers. And I was like, I'm only familiar with the Duggars, who are kind of the highest level because they're not vlogging. They're actually on TV. They're celebrities. And I watched all of, you know,
Jill Chin
19 kids and couches.
Jordan Myrick
I watched all of it. And Kendall was like, no. Like, look at all these people. And she was like, these are the Shade. And I was like, their last name is Shade. Crazy. They should be in prison.
Kendall Landris
You know, I fall.
Jill Chin
I think there was.
Kendall Landris
There was a. There was a big scandal.
Jill Chin
And it's all rooted. I hate to say it's all rooted in, like, a religious. Like all of the. The YouTubers. The family vloggers are all very religious.
Kendall Landris
Very religious.
Jill Chin
There must be something in the Bible about exploiting children.
Jordan Myrick
Well, absolutely. Honestly. And there is, honey, and there is ye.
Kendall Landris
I remember when I. The other day. I haven't thought about the them in so long.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
And then the other day, you know those vertical dramas? Princess, stop starring in a vertical drama. See, I had blue contact colored contacts in beautiful.
Jill Chin
I thought I blocked all of the vertical dramas because you can't.
Jordan Myrick
They're Multiplying. Yeah. Like gremlins. If you feed them after midnight, there's too many.
Jill Chin
And some of them are graphic. Sure. Some of them I want to report.
Jordan Myrick
I know they're getting sexual.
Jill Chin
I'm like, oh, my God. But I guess they must be making money.
Kendall Landris
I think there are. People are saying, this is it. There are people saying this is.
Jordan Myrick
People are saying, this is it. And I'll tell you what, we'll do it. I'll do it. If the money's right, we'll.
Jill Chin
If the money's right. Yeah. I've done a lot more for a lot less.
Kendall Landris
Oh, yeah, Like, I'll do.
Jordan Myrick
This brings me into an immediate question. Right. You guys aren't getting paid for a batch. No.
Jill Chin
For batch. No. We're bootstrapping that.
Jordan Myrick
And you're responsible for all your dresses, all your makeup, everything.
Jill Chin
Everything. Oh, my God.
Kendall Landris
What I heard is that. Oh, yeah, you have to buy. Even if you get kicked off the first episode, you have like 70 dresses that you've had to.
Jill Chin
Yeah. So they. So they send you a packing list and they're like, bring gowns. And so I was like, oh, my God, I must be like, making it
Jordan Myrick
like all the way. They predetermined. I'm the highest and I'm going the furthest.
Jill Chin
Right. So I brought nine gowns. I brought nine gowns. I spent so much money. I can remember I did not have. I spent probably $2,000. Yeah, probably $2,000.
Kendall Landris
I mean. Right.
Jill Chin
And because also it. It gets better when you're on, like paradise or whatever. Cuz brands will be like, oh, I'll send you stuff. Right.
Jordan Myrick
Yes, of course. You're.
Jill Chin
You're really like, I. I was sitting at 600 followers when I started.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
You know, and so it was not. Yeah, I was really scraping the bottom of the barrel to get on the show.
Jordan Myrick
And I think we have to ask the question that everyone's wondering why? Of course, because there are some people. Listen, I think that historically there's three different types of people that go on the franchise. I think at the beginning of the show and occasionally still currently, you have someone whose friends are like, you should do it. And they're like, you know what? I'm gonna be a little crazy. I'm an elementary school teacher. I'm just gonna be a little crazy. That's one type of person. I think that was more prominent when the show first started.
Kendall Landris
I think those people.
Jordan Myrick
Fewer and fewer, but you still see him. Then you have the woman that wants a brand deal with FabFitFun. Absolutely. That's the second type of woman. She's absolutely frothing at the mouth to sell athleisure blind boxes. Then the third type of person is someone who is mentally unwell. If I were to go on the show, I'd be in that category. So this is said with nothing but love and admiration. You say, seem stable, you seem solid, you're extremely attractive, and you seem so normal in a positive way.
Jill Chin
Yes. That's really great news that you think that about. Great news. That's.
Jordan Myrick
It's what you're giving. You said the medication's working.
Jill Chin
Yeah, the medication is absolutely working. I would say I was a mixture of all three.
Jordan Myrick
Okay.
Jill Chin
Maybe not the fabfitfun, but I was like, I gotta find a way to make money off of this. Yeah, man. Like, I'm kind of broke.
Jordan Myrick
Before you went on, you were like, I want to do this to make a little green.
Jill Chin
No, no, absolutely not.
Jordan Myrick
But once you were on.
Jill Chin
Well, once I was, yeah.
Kendall Landris
I mean, it's always a possibility.
Jill Chin
Of course I'm to say, no.
Kendall Landris
Why would you pay me for something?
Jill Chin
I mean. Yeah. I mean, whatever. So, yeah, my friend. So it's funny because during the pandemic, it was like Matt James's season, and, you know, I. Nothing to do. And so I saw a clip, the famous clip of Anna Redmond being. Saying she shows entertaining men for money.
Jordan Myrick
Yes, yes. And I was like, that's a good impression.
Jill Chin
Yeah. I was like, what's this? I saw it on, like, Facebook reels or something like that. And so my friend I knew was. She watched, you know, with her college friends, and she.
Jordan Myrick
You were not a watcher?
Jill Chin
No, I was not a watcher. Okay. No. And so I was like, lol. Like, do you watch the Bachelor? Like, I just got into it because, you know, of my psychosis. My, like, pandemic psychosis. And she's like, I think you'd actually do really well on the show. I was like, I would have to be so medicated, and I would have to, like, get plastic surgery. Like, something drastic would have to happen for me to get on that show. And. And then my boyfriend and I broke up hard on times, and I was actually on a trip, so I am an architectural historian. Shocker. And I was on a trip through. In the Appalachians. So I was serving the. The Blue Ridge Mountains and the. The Blue Ridge Parkway. So I was in Asheville, North Carolina, in this, like, crappy hotel that they put us up in, obviously. And I was like, let me just Apply. Like, that would be so funny. So I just threw in, like, literally just went on bachelornation.com apply and I applied a couple pictures, you know, a little blurb, and they just kept calling me back, and I was like, this is so funny that I'm never gonna. And they're like, all right, your flight's booked. I was like. I was like, I've ascended to this level. Like, how did I make it here? And I still do feel that way. So. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Wow. And you must remind me, I love you, but have completely forgotten the man from your season.
Kendall Landris
All we saw was you.
Jill Chin
Well, how could you forget?
Jordan Myrick
Who is it?
Jill Chin
It's Clayton, baby.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, huge shout out to the LGBTQ community. I absolutely forgot that's who it was.
Jill Chin
Well, no, it's not Colton. Colton was.
Jordan Myrick
Is the Clayton.
Kendall Landris
Wait, who's Clayton? No, Clayton's the one years later who kind of looked like Colton.
Jordan Myrick
Okay, then I guess I'll still give a huge shout out to lgbtq. Who's Clayton?
Jill Chin
So he was like, okay, so this is like the typical Bachelor. If you were. If you sat on the bench for an NFL team, you qualify.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
You know, if you're. If you're on, like, the starting, you know, practice team, you're going to be the best.
Jordan Myrick
And I love that, that they poach.
Jill Chin
They, like, look for the people sitting on the bench. So he did that, God bless him.
Kendall Landris
He was a season where I'm pretty sure he looked a lot like the host. And I kept.
Jordan Myrick
I know who this is now, who's who.
Kendall Landris
I don't know who's the host and who's the best.
Jill Chin
I've always had eyes for Jesse, the host. I love Jesse so much. They gotta, like. They try to, like, keep him away from me. Cause I'm like, Jesse.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Because also, I was told Jordan, I was like, hosting the Bachelor is such a specific person. Like, you have to be so earnest and, like, believe in the process in a way that is insane.
Jordan Myrick
Right?
Kendall Landris
And he was just.
Jordan Myrick
He's perfect.
Jill Chin
I love Jesse. I know everyone. There's some, like, Chris Harrison stands. You know, everyone's like, I'm not watching. Cause Chris Harrison's not on it.
Jordan Myrick
Crazy.
Jill Chin
And I'm like, okay. But Jesse, like, the host has a specific role. And I always used to joke with Rachel Rea, my best friend, former shout out. And so we would say that Jesse, like, lived in a coffin, and he would rise every four days to. To deliver two lines of the rose ceremony.
Jordan Myrick
And that's beautiful.
Jill Chin
And we love that. And then once you get eliminated, Jesse will go shoot you out back.
Jordan Myrick
Yes.
Jill Chin
And that's it. Cuz no one. Cuz we literally act like once you got eliminated, you died. Like, you like, oh, my God, I'm never going to see her again. I'll see you four weeks. Like, it's really not that big of a deal. But yeah. So Clayton was my bachelor. And you know when they tell you, you're like, yay. Because. And it's nothing against Clayton. Clayton and I have had. I mean, whatever. We've had beef. Clayton's got beef with everybody. But God bless him. Like, I do. I wish the best for you. Hope you're doing well, buddy. But we thought that we were gonna get like Greg Grippo or Andrew Spencer or Justin Glaze, you know, So I was getting right. I was in my car pretending. I was talking to Justin. I was like, oh, my God. And then it was Clayton. I was like, okay, cool. Like, I can get to a place where I think this guy's attractive and I can. I can. The mind is a powerful thing.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Yes. And it's all flooding back to me now. He's the guy who's taking hip hop dance classes right now. Oh, yeah, that's. And that's what I know him as. He's always being like, what a year of progress can make. And once again, that's no shade because I also take dance classes and I love that.
Kendall Landris
And what are your progress? A progress a year can make and
Jordan Myrick
ultimately, what a year of progress.
Jill Chin
No. Like every. Every year I'm like, let's see how the Dougie looks this year. Like, I am locked in. Sure. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
So that is so. That's so interesting to me. And that is why I could never. This is the only reason I can never be the bachelorette.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. No other.
Kendall Landris
They're begging me. Of course I would be convinced. Everyone here is so unattracted to me and they're pretending, and that's like my nightmare scenario.
Jill Chin
So you have the opposite.
Kendall Landris
You'd be like, well, I see.
Jill Chin
I was like a big fish in a small pond. I say, like, not really, but when I came out, I saw these ladies.
Jordan Myrick
I was like, no, please.
Jill Chin
I was so aghast. And this is a time where I had very low self esteem. So I was like, wallflower.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Like, because some girls come on and they're so polished and they come out and they're like, you know, if the producer's like, oh, guys are ready to juice. They're like, okay. And they go out in front of the camera. I'm like. Like, I wanted to shrink into the wall. It was sure awful.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. And how many episodes were you on that first season?
Jill Chin
Four.
Kendall Landris
Four. Okay.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. That's amazing.
Jill Chin
No, honestly, every show I make, I'm like, halfway. All right, see you guys.
Kendall Landris
Well, I feel like there must be, after the first episode, just this, like, who cares now, as long as I don't go home the first episode.
Jill Chin
I was so worried about going home the first night. It almost happened because I didn't get to talk to him the first night. And so. Because I'm like, oh, I'll steal him. I'll steal him. Okay. There's. That's, like, not real. Really? Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
The producers just decide who does it, I'm sure.
Jill Chin
Yeah. And they saw me and they're like, nah. Wow. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Insane.
Jill Chin
It is crazy.
Jordan Myrick
So that was your first season. What's the next affiliated thing you do?
Jill Chin
So the next affiliated thing I did. I did Bachelor in Paradise, and that was the next year after. So, like, the next round, they ship in fresh new batch to the sands of Mexico, and there I am.
Jordan Myrick
And you did two seasons of Bachelor in Paradise. I did first season. Remind the audience what happened.
Jill Chin
So the first season, there was. Oh, my God. I mean, it was. There was Romeo. That guy was involved, so Romeo. Okay. That was a whole mess. And then I was with that. The Tarzan guy, Jacob. And that was really a Hail Mary. Like, that was the Hail Mary. To, like, keep myself there for a little bit longer.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
And then they did the split week, so they took us off. And I acted like I was, like, going to die. I acted like they were really going to shoot me out back.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
So that was a really tough experience. Only because it was so, like, the environment is so unwelcoming.
Kendall Landris
Is it?
Jill Chin
Oh, we have no ac.
Kendall Landris
Oh, dear.
Jill Chin
They film it in June.
Jordan Myrick
You guys look so good. It's crazy that there's no air conditioning.
Jill Chin
That's again, really good news, because I would. I mean, you're Sandy all the time. I would wake up. First of all, the beds that they make. It looks like they made them in 10 minutes with no tools. Like, it was ramshackle. We're sleeping basically outside because there's no. So there's bats, there's bugs, there's. I mean, so snakes. There's everything. So you're basically living outside. And also the bathroom situation, there was just beads. There was no door. So I would wake up early and, like, try to.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Jill Chin
So I. I would wake up I'd go to bed every night, and they. They didn't really take the care to clean out the bunks after they like them together. So I'd wake up breaded in my own sweat and sawdust. Insane.
Kendall Landris
Wait, why is it like this? Because we don't see you guys sleeping, so there's no reason to pay attention.
Jill Chin
And that's another thing. You don't see us sleeping because maybe we get two, three hours.
Jordan Myrick
Why?
Jill Chin
Like, the sleep is very. I don't know. I don't know. And I. I think the resort has ac. But because all the lights in the production, they can't. They can't do, like, all right, we'll chop the ac. No ac. So that was really tough to live in that I got folliculitis. What's that?
Jordan Myrick
Right.
Jill Chin
Exactly. What is that? So it's when you get so sweaty and disgusting that you have an infection of the hair follicles.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my God.
Jill Chin
Like, my hair hurt.
Jordan Myrick
That's crazy. I feel like everybody's walking around with a uti.
Jill Chin
Oh, my God. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Well, there's medical on there, which is great, but. So I think that's why they changed the location. Yeah, to Costa Rica.
Jordan Myrick
And you guys deserve that. Ultimately, it.
Jill Chin
It. I.
Kendall Landris
It's not.
Jordan Myrick
I'll be honest with you. It's not as good to watch the way that the new season is done.
Jill Chin
I fully agree, but I'm like, it
Jordan Myrick
doesn't really matter because it's so obvious that y' all are getting treated better.
Jill Chin
Yes. Who cares? Much better. We had ac. We had actual beds. Like, it was a resort, so it was really beautiful. But I agree there is a charm about, like, the ramshackle.
Kendall Landris
You know, it feels a little, like, naked and afraid.
Jill Chin
It is kind of naked and afraid. And. And there's, like, sounds of, like, the waves, and, like, sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad. But I remember stepping into paradise. One of the first things I said is, like, oh, my God, it's so quiet because. And also, just the people. It was just, like, weird. It was such a different vibe. Walking into.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Okay, I have a couple quick questions. You don't have to technically answer any of them. You can plead the fifth on any of them. My first question is, what's your relationship status now?
Jill Chin
Oh, I'm taken. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I love him so much. And we're probably getting married.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, incredible. I mean, driving over here, we were literally like, how is she still single?
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
And you're not. So that makes Sense.
Jill Chin
Yes. So, yeah. And I was asked this question yesterday during press. They were like, so, what's, what's your status? And I was like, no, I'm taking. But they're like, well, why haven't we seen him on your Instagram? And I'm like, that's so funny. Because, like, I can have this for myself. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
And because last time I hard launched a man, like, I was like, why did I do that?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
That's so stupid. So next time you'll see me hard launches when I'm engaged. Because, like, I love that.
Jordan Myrick
I think that's smart. We would be fully private if we didn't make money off of it, right? Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Similar. When we started dating, we said, how do we make money?
Jill Chin
I mean, if my partner were, you know, about that life, then maybe eventually. But like, I don't know.
Jordan Myrick
Okay. So this information makes my follow up questions more awkward. So you just have to pretend you're single.
Kendall Landris
Okay.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
How many people from the franchise have you hooked up with?
Jill Chin
Ooh, like maybe one.
Jordan Myrick
Just one?
Jill Chin
Yeah. No, he's not really. Well, it's because. Okay, again, this may come as a shock to you guys. I'm not a hot commodity.
Jordan Myrick
Well. And we've seen that on the show, but it is shocking. Wow.
Jill Chin
No, it's actually crazy.
Jordan Myrick
I'm like, that's crazy. Eiffel Tower you right now. If that was an option. It's crazy.
Kendall Landris
We were watching like, like parents. We were sitting there. We were, we were watching the in paradise and being like, God, they are just missing an angel among them.
Jordan Myrick
And that's why they're all jealous of her.
Kendall Landris
Jealous. They don't know. They don't like a woman that's confident. They. It's gonna make them feel insecure. We were, we were writing so hard
Jordan Myrick
and we do think that's true. It's so funny to watch all these men be like, yeah, you just have like friend vibes to me. I'm like, yeah, that's because they like you. It's like men are so not accustomed to being with a woman where they like her personality. They're like, I can't be in love with you. Your personality is too good.
Jill Chin
And that's the thing. All the men on the show are only nice to you if they're attracted to you.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
I mean, maybe like half people think I'm funny and I do, you know, which is great. Love that I do project with humor, you know, but there's like, I'm very sweet.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Like, I'm A very nice person. I'm educated, yes. I think. But if I. If I had a fat rack, I think I would have gone further and, like, I would be really apple with a fat rack.
Jordan Myrick
You think all these guys are rack guys?
Jill Chin
They're boob guys.
Jordan Myrick
For sure.
Jill Chin
For sure.
Jordan Myrick
Boob guy is very, you know, straight culture, white culture, bachelor verse. Yeah, yeah.
Kendall Landris
Well, because you're so funny, but you're not, like, you know, when you meet someone, you're like, oh, God. Like, they're so funny, but they're like, they can't turn it off and they can't. Like, they seem almost manic or they're just throwing jokes out there.
Jill Chin
Yeah, yeah.
Kendall Landris
You're not like that. It's like you're. You're genuinely funny, but then also, like, you could have a real conversation.
Jill Chin
I could definitely have a real conversation, but it was hard to have real conversations with these people.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
So a lot of it was like, haha, joke. And I also think that men have an issue with funny women, of course, which is so annoying. So, yeah, I just wasn't that desirable. And that was okay. I keep being like, that was okay. It did obviously hurt a little bit.
Kendall Landris
I was like, why? Well, especially because, I mean, even literally, I'm gay, but I'm competitive. And so I have always had this dream of, like, I would love to go on the Bachelor just to be like, I would win, which is crazy because there's no way in hell. Yeah, I would win.
Jordan Myrick
Too tall. You would ever win week one, you're too tall.
Kendall Landris
I would not be cast even. But I have in my head, I'm like, if I was straight, I would be like, the franchises. I would be Hannah Brown. Like, I would be so famous. Yes.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Kendall Landris
And so I think there is even if you don't like the. Any of the guys, this kind of like.
Jill Chin
Well, yeah, no, the thing that's not true. I guess I don't want any of you, but I want to be the object of your desire.
Jordan Myrick
Of course.
Jill Chin
Of course. Like, so I want to be the object of their desire. That wasn't happening because, I mean, everyone on there is so beautiful too. So I'm like, all right, like, what do I got going for me? Humor, intelligent. And they really didn't care about it. And they said, actually, yeah, like, we're your boobs.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. Like what? That's rough. You are extremely beautiful. But you could, I'll say it, have bigger boobs.
Kendall Landris
And we did say that during the show. We said.
Jordan Myrick
And we were watching She's A beautiful angel. Where are them hooters at? So this leads me to another question.
Jill Chin
Why don't I have tits?
Jordan Myrick
Why don't you have big titties? Who is the hottest guy from Bachelor Nation? Like, you could hook up with one guy. He's the hottest guy. Who is it?
Jill Chin
I've said him so many times. And then he stopped talking to me.
Jordan Myrick
He got a restraining order.
Jill Chin
Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. I think it's Alex Bordy.
Jordan Myrick
Alex Bord. Alex Bordy. He sounds like a boy you went to high school with that played water polo.
Jill Chin
No, but he. He's Russian.
Jordan Myrick
Alex.
Jill Chin
He is. He. He's a model. He's very stoic, and I like those people because I'm like, I can crack him. I'm like, give me 10 minutes to room with him. Like, I can. I can crack him.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
And we were friendly, you know, after the show. And then I started going on podcast and being Alex Brady. I'm an Alex Brie. And then the. Suddenly the communication fell off. I don't know why.
Jordan Myrick
This guy. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Let me see.
Jill Chin
And I was on. He was on my season, and I was like, ew. You know what? No, for some reason.
Jordan Myrick
Really? That's interesting.
Jill Chin
Yeah, for some reason. I mean, there's.
Jordan Myrick
But he's not doing it for me.
Jill Chin
Well, there's a lot of cutie pies, but there's a lot of, like, conventionally, like, handsome, like, ripped. I honestly don't like a ripped dude. Have you ever tried to, like, snuggle with somebody who's, like. Like, so ripped? Like, it's uncomfortable.
Jordan Myrick
I have one time. I'll say right now, I, in a past life have had sex with men, and the worst sex I've ever had was with the most ripped man I've ever been with.
Jill Chin
Yeah. No, it's not enjoyable.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Are you talking about me, Kendall? No.
Jordan Myrick
He was, like, so jacked, and he was so hot. I remember he was so hot that I was out because I lived in New York for a long time. I was out in New York with my mom, and she was visiting, and she and I randomly ran into him on the street. And my mom, who's like, not about this. And also, like, my dad is shorter than my mom. I would say less masculine than my mom. My parents are kind of giving by for by, is the vibe. My mom saw this guy that I was hooking up with, and she was like, he's extremely attractive. Like, that's how attractive was. We had sex. He got on top of me, closed his Eyes did not make a sound.
Jill Chin
Oh.
Kendall Landris
Oh.
Jill Chin
And. Yeah, that's silence. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Also. And this is a more graphic story, so I'll tell it. You're giving so much. I feel like I have to give back.
Jill Chin
Please.
Jordan Myrick
He went down on me. And after 30 seconds, he goes, can I have a napkin or something?
Kendall Landris
What?
Jill Chin
Well, maybe because he was too juicy. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
And it was absolutely nothing to do with him.
Jill Chin
Napkin.
Jordan Myrick
I was like, I know my job. And I. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Wow.
Jordan Myrick
He said, can. I looked up.
Jill Chin
Can I.
Jordan Myrick
Can I have a napkin or something?
Jill Chin
Yeah. Let me get off my bedside table.
Jordan Myrick
Like, yeah, bud, dry it off. That's exactly what you want. Get it real nice and bone dry.
Jill Chin
That's never. I've never heard anything like that. I'm going to tell you right now.
Jordan Myrick
Crazy, right?
Kendall Landris
Even the men on the Bachelor have more decorum than that.
Jill Chin
Yeah. Wow.
Jordan Myrick
That's horrible.
Jill Chin
Yeah. Yeah. No, so I. I have not hooked up with many people on this show.
Jordan Myrick
Wow. Okay. So you think that Russian guy is the hottest.
Jill Chin
I do.
Jordan Myrick
I wonder who we think is the hottest. We gotta look.
Jill Chin
I mean, Greg Gerbo is attractive.
Jordan Myrick
Which one is that?
Kendall Landris
His last name's Boat.
Jordan Myrick
You say stupid.
Jill Chin
What did you say? Greg Grippo.
Kendall Landris
I think you said Gregory Boat.
Jill Chin
Gregory Boat.
Jordan Myrick
Gregory Boat. His last name's Boat. Gregory Grippo.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Well, it's hard because I have a lot of the women. I. I swear to God.
Jordan Myrick
Well, you go first. Who's the hottest? Other than you, who's the hottest?
Jill Chin
Jesus Christ. I. I mean, I'm biased because I love my best friend Rachel, and she's
Jordan Myrick
also one of the hottest of all time.
Jill Chin
She's just like. Like ethereal.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Like, she look gorgeous.
Jordan Myrick
Everyone, we need a full roster of all the.
Jill Chin
I know.
Kendall Landris
I need it projected.
Jordan Myrick
You think this guy. We.
Jill Chin
Well, okay, the thing is. Hear me out. Hear me out. It. It's. It's kind of like the Timothy Shalam thing where it's like a little, you know. I hate to say it, Rodent. Like, it's like, I want.
Jordan Myrick
All right.
Jill Chin
I want a guy that's like a little sickly. He's like a tortured ar.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
You know, something like that.
Jordan Myrick
I think that's appeal. Appealing to women who are attracted to men. Kendall and I are not attracted to men. So the only kind of men that we find attractive are. I mean, like the heated rivalry guys like Francois Arnault. I'm like, he's like six, five. He looks like he could kill me with one swift punch to the back of the head. I'm like, yeah, I would absolutely let him go to town on me.
Jill Chin
So you think that he's the hottest out of the heat rivalry, Guys, like, who's your type out of heat of rivalry.
Jordan Myrick
And thank you for asking. I'm in full. As I've said on multiple episodes, I'm in full heated rivalry.
Kendall Landris
Jordan's reading fan fiction. There's a lot.
Jordan Myrick
I got the books. I'm reading a scene from the book and then watching a scene and doing side by sides. I've never in my life been a fan fiction person. What does two men giving each other blowjobs matter to me a lot? Nothing.
Kendall Landris
Nothing.
Jordan Myrick
Historically, everything. I've seen it in real life, done nothing for me. I am, like, not well. It's giving me gender stuff. It's like, really? It's. It's breaking my brain in half. So this is my ranking.
Kendall Landris
Okay.
Jordan Myrick
The hottest person is Ilya Rosenoff. So Connor's story as Ilya Rosenoff.
Jill Chin
Yes, of course.
Jordan Myrick
That's the hottest. When he's jacking himself off in the shower. Yeah. I call 91 1. I say, come get me. Take me to an institution once again. Why?
Jill Chin
It brings tears to my eyes.
Kendall Landris
It gives me chills thinking about it.
Jordan Myrick
Crazy. But a lot of the bad don't agree. I'll tell you a secret. I'll tell you guys a secret. Dad, if you're listening, I certainly hope you're not. You've heard a lot more than you've already wanted to hear. Turn it off now. After the show. Oh, I haven't in a long time. I bought a pack of. I was on tour this weekend. I was at a bar. This is a question I have. Can you buy at bars in Los Angeles? Can you buy a pack of at a bar? I've never tried. I was in Texas. I was at the bar. I was looking at this. I was like, I should, and I should, and I should.
Jill Chin
Are they in Texas?
Kendall Landris
A fan?
Jordan Myrick
You're so drunk. Like, this incredible bar, the Chevron. I'm like, I'm at the bar. I'm looking. A fan comes up and is like, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, that's so sweet. He was like, oh, you looking at these? I was like, yeah. He was like, get her a whatever she wants. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. So I get this literally thinking about the scene in Las Vegas where Ilya Rozanoff has a in his mouth and he's like, on the bed. I'm like, this is the best anyone's ever looked it's so crazy. So he's the hottest. Yeah, I think.
Jill Chin
Did you recreate the scene? Is what I'm gonna ask Mask.
Jordan Myrick
Did I recreate the scene in the hotel room? Listen, I'll be honest with you. God knows what I did that night, but we're bleeping this whole episode. Every single thing is getting bleeped. This, this weekend, when I was on tour in Texas, was the worst behaved I've been in a long time. I'm a pretty good. I'm a pretty good guy, but I was not well behaved.
Kendall Landris
You got out of control.
Jordan Myrick
I was out of control. I was sending text I shouldn't have sent. I, you know, I was not in a good way this weekend. Okay, but. So Ilia Rosenoff Connor Story. Is Ilya Rosenoff Number 1s tier, as the kids would say.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Jordan Myrick
Underneath that, I would say. I think objectively, this is not my personal taste. I think objectively, Hudson Williams would be next.
Jill Chin
Interesting.
Jordan Myrick
People love his swagger. But for me personally, I would say next would be probably Francois. No, I think he. That's the actor, not the character. So I think Ilya Rosanoff, then Francois Arnault, then Scott Hunter, then while you're inking characters again, then I'm deep in it. I'm balls deep in it. And then Hudson Williams and then Valkyop. Listen, he's too small for me, ultimately, yes.
Jill Chin
But he's.
Jordan Myrick
Boom.
Jill Chin
You see those thighs?
Kendall Landris
He's absolutely shocked.
Jordan Myrick
And he's once again objectively handsome. And the actor is an unbelievable actor. Me personally, I need a big bitch. Like that. That's. I can't. I'm a big bitch. I need a big bitch. She's five' eleven. Like, I'm not trying to, you know, date a calico critter, but a lot of people are. So there's.
Kendall Landris
I.
Jordan Myrick
There's nothing wrong with that. It's just like I'm too big to date someone that is so small. I'm sure he's probably the same size as me. I'm. I listen, I could probably in real life. That's what I'll say. But. And I know he's on the edge of a sea, wondering, yeah, he's waiting. But so I would say then, then. So Hudson Williams, then the actor Robbie GK or whatever his name is. He would be next for me. Then Shane, how far are we.
Jill Chin
Are we going down to like, then Kip.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. Where does his dad.
Jordan Myrick
We're getting to Kips. Dad. Honey, we're getting a Kip's Dad. And that's. Oh, I love the guy to. What's his name? He's on Rosenoff's team. And I think he's a mustache and like longer hair. I think he's hottie. Pattati. He's in there.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Jordan Myrick
I don't like the Marlo. He's too straight for me. He's like the big tall guy that's on Rosenoff's team.
Kendall Landris
And then, you know, the other teammates names.
Jordan Myrick
What do you think I'm doing at night? I'm fully turned away from you. Silent. I've never been silent.
Kendall Landris
61 of him, literally.
Jordan Myrick
Assistant coach. One of my. One of the nicest guys in the league.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
I've never been silent for one second of my life. Now every night we go to bed, I'm fully.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Turned away from Kendall.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Jordan Myrick
Reading my fan fiction.
Kendall Landris
But I found the woman. I found the girl from the Bachelor. I would marry.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, okay.
Kendall Landris
Well, Mary.
Jordan Myrick
Well, hold on. Pause. Who do you think is the hottest from Heater rivalry?
Jill Chin
Ilya Rosanov.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Connor stories. Of course. And I want him to play Adonis.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
He deserves it. And he's such a good actor.
Jordan Myrick
He's an amazing actor. Amazing.
Jill Chin
Stole the show.
Jordan Myrick
What's so interesting to me is that I am not attracted to Connor's story in the same way that I'm attracted to Ilya Rosanoff.
Jill Chin
Well, yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Which is. That's really good. Because I am attracted to Connor Shore. Don't get me wrong. He's very attractive.
Jill Chin
Very attractive.
Jordan Myrick
But he feels to me more like men I'm like, friends with.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Like he feels very comfortable and safe and good to me. Like I would never be friends with Ilya Rozanoff in real life. Right.
Kendall Landris
But you go to town on him. But.
Jill Chin
Well, yeah, because he's, you know, there's some sort of je ne sais quoi. There's some kind of like.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, it's the Russian. Probably the qua is qua. Ing.
Kendall Landris
For sure.
Jill Chin
Yeah, for sure.
Jordan Myrick
Who's this lady you want to fuck? From the Bachelorette I found.
Kendall Landris
Okay. And I actually. I thought about this. I've thought about this. And I remembered is a picture book me.
Jill Chin
It.
Kendall Landris
It.
Jill Chin
Well, you.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, we love her.
Jill Chin
And it literally would. And I love Susan.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. I would. I would have a field day.
Jill Chin
She's giving like, big Ange. God rest his soul. God rest.
Jordan Myrick
God rest her soul. Big Ange, we love you. She's giving. Lesbian Kris Jenner.
Jill Chin
Absolutely. She is everything that she thinks she is. She is amazing. I Love her.
Jordan Myrick
She's the only other person, I think, from the franchise we've ever asked to be on the show.
Jill Chin
And what'd she say?
Jordan Myrick
We DM'd her. And we were like. Like, queen, come on the show. Sit on our faces. And she was like, I. I'm in an NDA right now, so I can't, but I'd love to in the future.
Kendall Landris
That's a lie. Wasn't it? No, this was.
Jordan Myrick
It was close to. It was like. It was like, during the b.
Jill Chin
That is so.
Kendall Landris
But that's the only two because. Yeah, we don't often.
Jill Chin
We.
Kendall Landris
We don't know anything about so. Ever so often we are. It's just been the two of you. But you are the two. I would be. I would definitely date the two of you.
Jill Chin
I'm flattered.
Jordan Myrick
My dream of fortune. The two of us, you and her and her. And all of us are giving ups to Big Ang.
Kendall Landris
Oh, God, yes.
Jordan Myrick
But I think the men.
Kendall Landris
It's always the men that I like, which is, like, why. I mean, this is the same when I was in high school, and the guys that I would have crushes on, people would be like, what? And I think. Because your taste when you're a closeted lesbian is so weird, but, like, Spencer from the last season, he's on your. Is that his name?
Jill Chin
Oh, sweetie.
Jordan Myrick
Spencer.
Kendall Landris
Spencer.
Jordan Myrick
He dated.
Kendall Landris
I don't know if they're dating. Jess. I think he's engaged. The growth.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, he. He is. Seems very sweet. He's a little awkward for me, but he's. He seems very nice.
Kendall Landris
I liked him. I like and I like. That's the type of guy that I would be like, well, why isn't he the bachelor?
Jordan Myrick
And all the women are like, he's.
Jill Chin
Because he's so.
Kendall Landris
Just.
Jill Chin
He's sweet and nice and he's so nice. And I remember I was like, you know, when I was waiting to go on the show, they have you in, like, a room, you know, and you're stuck there. And so I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy. True. No.
Jordan Myrick
Any minute.
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Well, no, I mainly watch it so I can see Legolas, because that was my sexual awakening. And Orlando Bloom in as Will Turner simultaneously. Like, wow. Like, that went platinum in my head, like five years old. Like, I had stuffed animals next to you, being like, this is legless. And I was like, oh, my God.
Jordan Myrick
I completely understand that.
Jill Chin
You know what I'm saying?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
So anyway, so I told him. He's like, oh, what'd you watch at the hotel? And I told. I told Spencer, you know, I watched the. He's like, you didn't watch the Hobbs bit first?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, that's.
Jill Chin
I was like, oh, I love you.
Jordan Myrick
Right?
Kendall Landris
That's sweet.
Jill Chin
I was like, hey.
Kendall Landris
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Jordan Myrick
Kendall's looking for a safe space. So the other week, Kendall's extending an olive branch to you and saying, please say yes.
Jill Chin
So.
Kendall Landris
So I. The other week, not my stuffed animals, but my.
Jordan Myrick
The other week.
Kendall Landris
No, no, no, no, no. I mean, yes, honestly, I've done it. I've done it in the last two years. I've made out with my. Not stuffed animals, my pillow, but my.
Jordan Myrick
Okay.
Kendall Landris
I said the other day to Jordan, I was like, well, you know, like when you're a teenager and you, like, make out with your pillow. And Jordan was like, no, I've never done that. And I, like, could not believe that
Jill Chin
I've made out with my arm, you know, the crack of my arm, just to practice.
Kendall Landris
So it wasn't like you were role playing.
Jill Chin
I was role playing. But it wasn't in a sexual way.
Kendall Landris
Sure, sure. No, it was romantic.
Jill Chin
Yes, it was very romantic. And there was that. There was one point where I couldn't choose between Johnny Depp and, you know, what's his name? Jack Sparrow. I couldn't choose between Jack Sparrow And Will Turner. So they were on either side.
Jordan Myrick
And I love that. Sophie's Choice.
Kendall Landris
But you've never made out with your pillow.
Jordan Myrick
No. That is.
Kendall Landris
Is great. I. It made me feel like, wait, am I insane?
Jill Chin
Well, what's the functionality?
Kendall Landris
It's not even just making out. It's like talking to. This was when I was in high school and I, like, had never been in a relationship, so it was like I was going on dates with my pillow. Basically, I would like, lay him down as my pillow and be like, I love you.
Jordan Myrick
You were chronically horny.
Kendall Landris
Wow. I was.
Jordan Myrick
Cuz you weren't doing anything until way late in the game.
Kendall Landris
No, I was a virgin for a long time and not even like, I didn't know what. You know how. You know how sex that is these days in this country? Come on. I didn't even know what masturbating was. So I would just like, you know, I mean, it's the classic story. I was like, sitting on my couch one day on like the corner of it, and I was like, what the hell is that for me?
Jordan Myrick
All right.
Kendall Landris
And then I like, didn't know what it was. So I would, like, do it when like, my friends were over.
Jordan Myrick
Because I was like, there's.
Kendall Landris
This is.
Jordan Myrick
I didn't even know you guys. Check this out.
Kendall Landris
Literally, I was like, you guys, have
Jordan Myrick
you tried to film this?
Jill Chin
Yeah, it was great. Did you guys get the book?
Jordan Myrick
Like, of course.
Jill Chin
No. Your body. The body?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, the American girl doll. What's it called? The art of. It's like you. You and your body or something.
Jill Chin
Yeah, well, I didn't get that. My. My friend did though. And so we were reading it one night. We're having sleepover. We were reading it one night. We. We learned about masturbation and then that
Jordan Myrick
masturbation is in that book.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Damn.
Jill Chin
Know your body and so you got.
Jordan Myrick
Know your body where to hold them.
Jill Chin
And so that night we made a. We made a pillow thing. We had a pillow barrier because we thought that we were. That we were just going to like, for some reason we're like, oh, my God, I didn't know you were capable of that.
Jordan Myrick
We have to protect ourselves from each other.
Kendall Landris
We put a pillow down and then we both. In my head, you're like, we both
Jordan Myrick
straddled on either side. Try it.
Jill Chin
No, we were like, we were deeply afraid.
Kendall Landris
Yeah, no, I didn't get that book. My mom came into my room one night. It's so funny. You're just really like, attacked as a kid sometimes by your Parents. Where you're like, I was just having a night and now you've just come in without asking me.
Jill Chin
Of course.
Kendall Landris
Full whiteboard. And she said, tonight I'll be talking to you about sex.
Jill Chin
Wow.
Kendall Landris
And she drew images. And I think she expected. Because I think all my siblings were like, great, please don't talk to me about this. Because probably they'd already all had sex by the time that I would. But I was. My mom was in there for three hours. I had questions. I had more questions. I said, how many penises can you put in a vagina at once?
Jordan Myrick
She's like, I need to know this for the future.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. I was like, how many holes are there? How many can you put them? I would like any question you could think of. I was. And my mom was like, okay, all right, let's wind it down.
Jordan Myrick
Questions, man, that's amazing. Opposite end. I'm closer to yours. So my aunt gave my cousin the book, right? And then my mom clearly felt like, okay, I guess we're supposed to give the book. So my mom kind of like brought in my. And she was like, hey, you know, we're doing whatever. We're doing like a duffe for dinner and here's a book. And then like left. And I was like, okay. And then I looked at the book and I was like, what is this? But luckily, I had a neighbor that was three years older than me.
Jill Chin
Okay.
Jordan Myrick
Who is responsible for, I mean, everything I've ever done to you, everything I've ever known. She taught me. She was, you know. Really?
Kendall Landris
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
About that life.
Kendall Landris
But kids nowadays, I feel like kids, there'll be like a five year old walk up to me and they'll be
Jordan Myrick
like, I have a clitoris.
Jill Chin
And I'm like, okay, so wait, what. What did you guys call your private parts at home? I find this fascinating. Fascinating.
Jordan Myrick
I.
Kendall Landris
That's a good one.
Jordan Myrick
Don't think I called it anything.
Kendall Landris
I knew not to speak of it
Jordan Myrick
really talking about it. But I was. My family is very. I will say I'm an only child and we didn't grow up around much other family. So it was a lot of, like, me hanging out with adults. So I would say I was adultified very early. So it was always just like, if you'll excuse me, I need to use the restroom. When I was like three years old, it was. There were never.
Kendall Landris
That's why I'd make my child's beautiful.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. There were never like children's terminology for things because I wasn't a. Around other children.
Kendall Landris
We Didn't. Yeah, we didn't. Because I had. I'm the youngest of a lot of older siblings, so a lot of words. We didn't do a ton of like, I can't even say I even as. Until I can't. Like the thought of saying pee pee. I'm just gonna throw. I would, I couldn't let my kids say golf ball. It's like your boys. Yeah, I. I could not do that. But my. We called it. My mom would go down there.
Jill Chin
That's so funny.
Kendall Landris
And then she'd call the boobs the girls.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, that's so funny.
Jill Chin
The girls.
Kendall Landris
And then she'd go down there, down there and she'd whisper it. That was part of the word. What about you?
Jill Chin
So my parents called it a hootie. Hootie.
Kendall Landris
Hootie. And the blowfish. Hootie.
Jill Chin
And then my mom called your buttholes the blowfish. Yeah, Boobs. My mom called boobs. And I, I. When I was little, actually up until maybe a couple years ago, I thought that the proper terminology, the full name for boobs was boobalas.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
So I was like, oh yeah. Like it's just like boobs is just slang for boobalas because that's what we're called of was made of.
Jordan Myrick
And then a gynecologist had to tell you, no ma', am, that's actually not very old.
Jill Chin
When I found out that boobs was not short for boobies.
Jordan Myrick
That's really funny. Their full Christian name.
Jill Chin
It's just full name.
Kendall Landris
But it's weird when your family says something and then you're like, so you're the ones teaching me language. So maybe be a little careful with
Jordan Myrick
the words you're saying.
Kendall Landris
Cuz I thought that was just what you said. Oh.
Jill Chin
And when I first. Cuz when I first heard about lesbians, when I first learned about lesbians, they said, oh, so and so is a lesbian. And so I thought it was a lesbian.
Kendall Landris
A lesbian.
Jordan Myrick
I actually love that.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
I'll never forget maybe the most embarrassing I've ever been in my life was a lot of my family's Guatemalan and speak Spanish. And my aunt would call us when we were kids and we were crazy. She would call us cuckoo vaca, which is like cuckoo. Like crazy.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Vodka is cow. So like, oh, you're being like crazy, you know, cuckoo vaca, whatever. But it was like all one word. And I remember one day in elementary school calling someone that at school and someone. And I did a lot of my growing up in South Florida where a Lot of people speak Spanish. And I called someone that at school, and someone was like, what are you talking about? And I was like, I thought you spoke Spanish. That's, you know, whatever. And give me Astro.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Jordan Myrick
And I was shocked. I went home and I was like, what is this? And my mom was like, that's a word. That's the thing your Aunt Lizette made up. And I was like, are you kidding me? I'm saying it to everyone. It was so deeply embarrassing.
Jill Chin
That's great.
Jordan Myrick
I will say I've looked at some pictures. Okay. I think think my gal. You top slot.
Jill Chin
Thank you.
Kendall Landris
And we're not just.
Jordan Myrick
And we're not just.
Kendall Landris
Okay. Wow.
Jordan Myrick
We're not just saying that.
Kendall Landris
Look, I know you're in that relationship.
Jordan Myrick
Glasses, honey. Come on. Look at you. Like looking at me in a funhouse mirror.
Jill Chin
I'm going on, happy wife, happy life, and I'm not showing up.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. And I love that. Yeah. It's. It's doing it for me. And with the tabby off my finger. And that's one of your shoes. Come on. So, yeah, you're. You're Your top tier, for sure. And then I would say, I love Taisha.
Jill Chin
Oh, Taisha. Oh, my God. I was with her.
Jordan Myrick
Michelle.
Jill Chin
Oh, it's gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeous.
Jordan Myrick
Yes, yes.
Jill Chin
Gorgeous, gorgeous girls.
Jordan Myrick
Gorgeous, gorgeous girls.
Jill Chin
Beautiful.
Jordan Myrick
And then men. I don't know. I think I thought the grocery store guy was cute when I saw him on Paradise.
Jill Chin
That's crazy.
Jordan Myrick
Really? Tell me more about that. Does he suck?
Jill Chin
He is just so. I had to do some podcasts with him.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
And I don't think he cares if
Jordan Myrick
I live or die that I hate him. Then I've never been less attracted to him. I.
Kendall Landris
That's crazy.
Jill Chin
That's, like, on paper, like.
Kendall Landris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Really? I think I'm like, oh, he's kind of attractive because he seems kind of normal.
Jill Chin
Well, yeah. But I just, like, don't think he cares about.
Kendall Landris
It's so wild. Like, we recently went. I'm gonna try to be so deeply vague about this, but we went to a place where there was a lot of straight men that aren't from life.
Jordan Myrick
It's so vague.
Kendall Landris
We really.
Jordan Myrick
I know. I'm like, where were we?
Kendall Landris
You'll know in a minute. But we don't really spend a ton of time around street men. And then, you know, the street men were. It's like our friends, husbands, who are, like, you know, whipped. It's like, they're sweet, special, great men. We go to this thing, and there was A lot of straight men who were not from Los Angeles, who were not in the.
Jordan Myrick
I'm trying to figure it out. You'll know. Okay.
Kendall Landris
And I could not believe my eyes of the way we were treated.
Jordan Myrick
I know where this was.
Kendall Landris
I was like. Because I'm around, like, a lot of guys that, like, I've curated a very specific group of straight men. And we're very lucky. Our dads were both, like. My dad was really sweet and, like, just view. Just naturally was.
Jordan Myrick
We have two gentle dads.
Kendall Landris
Gentle dads. Whatever. We go. And these men. It was like they couldn't see us.
Jill Chin
Like, I would be like, they don't see us.
Jordan Myrick
Hello. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
And they were just like, is there someone's talking? It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. And I was like, I'm. Which. This is bad on me. But I was like, I'm gay. Like, I'm one of the guys.
Jordan Myrick
Like, what are you doing? I'm halfway to being a boy.
Kendall Landris
Literally. I was like, what?
Jordan Myrick
And they were.
Kendall Landris
I was like, why aren't you guys, like, asking me, like, how to eat pussies? Like, that's what the guy guys always ask me. They were just like, did not care.
Jordan Myrick
We find out that all these men are, like, really nice. And Kendall just went up to a group of men being like, hey, you guys want to know how to eat pussy? And they were like, miss, please leave. No, they were just.
Kendall Landris
I couldn't believe it. They. But we were. I mean, they didn't know.
Jill Chin
You're subhuman.
Kendall Landris
It was a woman.
Jill Chin
To a straight man, you are subhuman.
Jordan Myrick
Who's the nicest guy from the Bachelor franchise? Ooh.
Jill Chin
Oh, I love that. Oh, shit. Oh, Dean Bell Boat.
Jordan Myrick
Dean Dean Bell.
Jill Chin
Well, he's my family uncle alert. He's married to Kaylin.
Jordan Myrick
He's. Must he. He got a mustache at one point. And he has a brother. Did his brother come on the show at one point?
Jill Chin
You know, I don't know. I don't know if he does. Yep.
Jordan Myrick
Kendall, show the crowd. Kendall showed the crowd.
Kendall Landris
Dr. D. P. Bell.
Jordan Myrick
You are so bad at listening. Dean Ungler.
Jill Chin
That. That's his former. Then we got married. They changed their name together.
Jordan Myrick
That's beautiful.
Kendall Landris
Is it him again?
Jill Chin
That's a really great try.
Kendall Landris
Notable in accounting and consulting for 2022.
Jordan Myrick
Congratulations.
Jill Chin
Notable for much other than. And I. God bless him. He's on this new show again.
Jordan Myrick
So there you go. That's okay. And he's the one who. He actually had the craziest hometown of all time.
Jill Chin
He did.
Jordan Myrick
He's the one who. Van Life went to the hometown. He does Van Life. But his. They went to like, he was like, I do not have a good relationship with my dad. My dad's a freak, My stepmom's weird, like, whatever. And then go. And I think you're thinking like, you know, so many people on the Bachelor are like, I don't know, things at home are like, different. And then you go home and it's like, it's like so normal. It was like they went to his home. His dad lives in like a yurt and it's like a white guy wearing like a bindi or whatever. That's how. I'm sure that's not true, but that's what I remember in my mind's eye. And they all sat on the floor and like, his, like, my hometown, they were just being very, like, weird. And he literally. I feel like 10 minutes into it is like, I have to leave. And they leave.
Jill Chin
I felt so bad.
Jordan Myrick
I remember watching it being like this. This is the most real moment in reality television I've maybe ever seen. And it gave me a lot of respect for him. So I'm happy to hear that he's nice.
Kendall Landris
Do you ever, like. Because I love. Okay, well, it would really just be my mom. But I love my mom so much. And honestly, she'd be great on it. But I feel like I still would, like, want to be out by episode five or before hometowns for sure. Because I think the thought of camera crews coming to my hometown maybe makes me want to throw up more than I can even picture.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
No, that would be strange. Having my parents on camera would be crazy.
Kendall Landris
Cuz I'm kid. Some people, what are they like, lucky with my mom. But I'm like, some people, it's like
Jordan Myrick
their parents should not be on camera.
Jill Chin
No. Like, my dad is so funny. So my dad is so. This is also not funny. So my dad is Chinese and my mom is white. And usually it's the opposite way around.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
The other way around. And to the point where, like, people have come up to me and been like, I bet your daddy met your mom in Vietnam. And I was like, you're like, actually,
Jordan Myrick
my mommy met my daddy in Vietnam. And that's progressive.
Jill Chin
How old do you think I am? Like the Vietnam War. Like, they met, like, what?
Kendall Landris
That is?
Jill Chin
Yeah, my. I was like, wow. Okay. No. So they made a video store. My dad was like stalking my mom.
Jordan Myrick
They met at a video store. Yeah.
Jill Chin
So he kept buying and VHS at the time were like, very expensive. So he was spending money at the video store to. To like visit her. And he was. Send her flowers. He did court her, but he's like a very traditional, like Chinese man. And then my mom is like some WASPy white woman, Rhode island, very like, you know.
Kendall Landris
Yeah, I love.
Jordan Myrick
And was she immediately like, I love this man, or did she take some coaxing?
Jill Chin
I think it. It took some coaxing, but. And he was over and he went to San Francisco for a little bit to like visit his aunt or something. And he got a call. He like, called the video store and you know, the. The other associate knew that he had a crush on, you know, my mom. He's like, chrissy's single. And then. So then he bought her a San Francisco shirt, flew back and the rest.
Jordan Myrick
He bought her a San Francisco shirt. It's so funny.
Kendall Landris
And when she saw him, was she
Jordan Myrick
like, oh, dear, here it comes. Cause I'm a Chinese guy.
Kendall Landris
Every parent's story, like all of our parents stories, your parents is nice. But I have like so many people.
Jordan Myrick
You hear them.
Kendall Landris
Oh, maybe it's similar. It's like you hear your parents story and you're like, this is nowadays would be considered an illegal situation.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, well, this is what I'll say. No, my parents are not like that. But my mom, they went on like a normal date. And then, you know, I would say, historically, my mom is a little cold. I think it's changing as she gets older. And also I feel like my mom has softened a lot since I've come out, which is really sweet. Like, my mom, a nurse, come out, like out of like her body because I've come out of her. My mom has gotten a lot softer. No, I think that's the opposite. I think I made my mom harder. But I like, since I came out as gay, like one time Kendall and my mom went to Home Depot to like, buy something. Yeah. And then they popped in the Walgreens next door so my mom could buy a like, Gay Pride shirt to wear during pride month to the hospital where she works as an ICU nurse. Like, so my mom. But like, historically, my mom's like. She plays her cards really close to her chest. She's a little like. I think people. My dad always describes her as like, when they were younger, she was very aloof. A lot of people thought was she. She was mean or rude because she's a little mean.
Kendall Landris
Like after their first date, he was like. I was like, she's never gonna see me again. And Then she was like, when are we going on a second date? Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
So it was like they got set up. My parents, my mom and dad both moved around a lot. They moved to the same place. My dad went to college. My mom went to college a couple years later. And then they randomly got set up by friends. Even though they went to the same high school. They didn't know each other in high school.
Kendall Landris
Oh, excuse me.
Jordan Myrick
The David Yurman ring that I favorited on ebay is on sale.
Kendall Landris
Do you need to take a minute?
Jordan Myrick
No, no, no, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. She got a bid in. Yeah, I gotta put a bid in. $2,000. So my, they got set up on a blind date. They go on this blind date. My, my dad said, my mom walks out, she's wearing high heels. My mom's almost 6ft tall. My, my dad's probably like 5 10, 5, 11. My mom walks out, she's wearing high heels. She looks him up and down. She goes, well, this won't do. She goes back inside, puts on flats, comes back outside. They go on this date. He's like, this woman is hot, but she does not like me. So he drops her and she goes, well. And he's like, well, what? She's like, when are we doing this again? Which honestly is giving me a little bit. So I, I, that's how I kind
Kendall Landris
of felt on our first date. I remember after a while I was like, oh, no, I think they like me. But I remember distinctly, there's like, in the first five minutes of our first date, I went, she's never going to
Jordan Myrick
want to see me again.
Kendall Landris
There's no way. Like you. I just immediately was like, there's no way. And then over time, I was like,
Jordan Myrick
okay, yeah, I think I can be a little aloof too, despite how much I share. But then my dad, after, you know, whatever, a year or two, proposed to my mom. And, and my mom was like, no. She's like, we're just young. I just don't, I don't. I just feel like I have, like, other stuff to do.
Jill Chin
Well, I mean, yeah, fair.
Jordan Myrick
And my dad was like, okay, sure, yeah. And then, like, two weeks later, she called him back and she was like, you know what? Let's do it.
Jill Chin
Let's do it.
Jordan Myrick
My parents have been. My parents have been happily married. My parents really got along. My parents have been happily married for what, 30, 40 years?
Kendall Landris
No, I just, like, my dad would tell me stories. Stories.
Jordan Myrick
You know, it's like, and your dad was a hot Mess express. I'll say that much.
Kendall Landris
He would be like, trying to, you know, your parents telling you this romantic story. And it's like, my dad's like, well, then I told her. I told her I was sick. I lied. I told her I was sick. And so then I, I. And she said, well, I don't care because we're broken up. And then my mom's like. And then I was driving, and I look at my rear view and there he is in a bush. I'm like, this is not romantic. Let's.
Jordan Myrick
Please, please. Oh, my God.
Kendall Landris
But it just reminded me of that.
Jill Chin
Yours is much sweeter.
Jordan Myrick
I think this is maybe the nicest adult dating story I've ever heard. I mean, I think the video store is so charming, so of a time.
Jill Chin
Yes, it is indicative of the time.
Jordan Myrick
And is your dad also from Rhode Island?
Jill Chin
Yeah. So he was. He's an ABC American born Chinese. He's one of 11, which is crazy. Also, I don't know if you know this. My family's ghost hunters.
Jordan Myrick
Wait, okay, we have to give you back.
Kendall Landris
We have to just have.
Jordan Myrick
How much time do we have? Wait, what?
Jill Chin
I know, I know, I know.
Jordan Myrick
What do you mean, your family's ghost hunters?
Jill Chin
So my only siblings.
Jordan Myrick
Do you have.
Jill Chin
I only have one sister. Okay. Yeah, older. She's a doctor, thank God. So she got the brains. I got everything else.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah. Wait, but how are her boobs big?
Jill Chin
Really?
Jordan Myrick
We got to get her on the Bachelor. She's a doctor with a huge rack. Get her on the Bachelor.
Jill Chin
No, she's married. Oh, she's married. But yeah, so she's like, you know, she's the, like, every Asian person's dream.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my God. Dr. Child with a big rack.
Jill Chin
And then there's me. But if we combined, we be the. We be on second. Be the. Be the perfect person. But yes. So my uncle was on the show Ghost Hunters International, and then my dad took up ghost hunting in his spare time.
Jordan Myrick
I'm like, I gotta meet your dad.
Kendall Landris
Do you believe in ghosts?
Jill Chin
Of course I do.
Kendall Landris
And you've seen? Yes. What do you mean? What did you see?
Jill Chin
So this was actually the day when I. Before I left for the Bachelor, I had, like, a really crazy encounter. It was at my friend's house, and someone had recently passed across the street. And, well, I don't know if it was him, but I remember walking out of my friend's house. She lives at, like, the bottom of a hill in the middle of the woods. You know, we're very rural people. Middle of the woods. And so I walk out, and I'm like. I immediately feel weird. And I'm like, no, something's not right. And I've been. You know, I grew up in this house. I'm like, why do I feel like this? So I'm like, whatever. Just, like, keep walking. So I go up, and then I see this, like, giant, like, larger than life, like, black mass. And then I hear. Hear it.
Kendall Landris
I hear.
Jill Chin
It's, like, running towards me. And I go. I scream, and I run back inside. I'm like, guys, there's something out there. Whatever. And then all my friends, like, you're crazy. Like, let's go see what's out there. I'm like, check the ring camera. Check the ring camera. And the only footage that was corrupted were those two time stamps.
Jordan Myrick
That's not a ghost. You saw the chupacabra.
Jill Chin
And so I was like, okay, that's crazy. So then. So then I called my friend who had already left, and when she picks up, she's like, did you feel weird leaving reals? And I was like, yeah, I saw something crazy. And then. So then I. And then I call my dad. Obviously, I'm like, dad. And so, you know, when he comes back from a ghost hunt, he puts salt at the end of the driveway.
Jordan Myrick
Of course, keep mounting.
Jill Chin
Right? He's very. We're very safe. We're very safe. Ghost hunter.
Jordan Myrick
I love that.
Jill Chin
So then he's like, oh, you have, like, the. You know, it's family gift, and it's called what? He said the cat eyes in Chinese were like, you know, whatever. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm going the Bachelor tomorrow. Like, I actually can't explore this side of me right now, so I'm just going to, like, forget about it. So, yeah.
Kendall Landris
Okay. Hosting a ghost show. I'm like, I'm the best in this. You hosting a ghost show would be the greatest thing I can imagine.
Jordan Myrick
And with your dad.
Jill Chin
Yeah. And I deal with, like, historic houses, too, so I'm always in the. And so I. Kendall and I are
Jordan Myrick
starting a production company to do this.
Kendall Landris
No, we're not. My. This house we were gonna buy.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
I have something to invest in.
Jill Chin
And then it's funny because. So I took, like, a cemetery's class. I like his. I restored historic, like, headstones. I did research on them and everything. And then the guy that I'm dating now, his mom carves headstones. God.
Jordan Myrick
Family business. Oh, my God. How sweet is that?
Kendall Landris
Wait, are you mean, like, you would go, like, do. Because I Watch those tik toks where they, like, clean and they, like, chisel off the dirt.
Jill Chin
Yes. So I would. If, like, a stone was broken. Broken, I would fix it. Yeah. And we would clean and we would, you know, do all that.
Jordan Myrick
That's good karma.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
But you know what you should do there? Have you ever been to Sinespia in Los Angeles?
Jill Chin
No.
Jordan Myrick
The Hollywood Forever Cemetery.
Jill Chin
Oh, okay. Yes.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Jill Chin
Okay. And that's an interesting place because the, the stones are pretty much. It's a garden cemetery. Right. So it's like rolling hills. So that was during the era of cemeteries when people were like, we don't actually want to think about death. Like, we just want to think about how beautiful, rather than, you know, death being very, you know, a monument. It being. So this was the era which people didn't really want to think about death. A garden cemetery.
Jordan Myrick
I'm really more and more titillated you by you. I'm just more and more tilted by you every moment.
Jill Chin
My nipples are hard.
Jordan Myrick
Absolutely. Okay. We've done no questions, and we have, like, no time.
Kendall Landris
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Jordan Myrick
Is alcohol unlimited?
Jill Chin
No. You have a limit. It's by your weight. So you.
Jordan Myrick
So they weigh you?
Jill Chin
Well, yeah, you know. You know, to me.
Jordan Myrick
Right, yeah. Girls are lying. 300 pounds. Yeah.
Jill Chin
So there's, yeah, there's a limit, and they keep track. And there's like, you have a little picture and they check off every hour they have.
Kendall Landris
But that's new, huh?
Jordan Myrick
That's new, right? It hasn't always been that way.
Kendall Landris
You know what's sad? I, I, I, you know, I, I think it's good. They're doing a lot of things now to be like, this has to be safer. Reality TV has to be safer. But sometimes you're not getting as good tv, right? Exactly. People are not drunk and they're not dehydrated, and that's where stuff comes.
Jill Chin
But we are tired, angry. Yes. It works out.
Jordan Myrick
How long does filming actually take for a season?
Jill Chin
For Bachelor, it could be two months if you make a bar. And then for paradise, it's quick. It's like a month. Wow. Yeah. And then you're in. Engaged.
Jordan Myrick
Did your experience on the Bachelor suck, or was it awesome? If you had to pick, there's no in between.
Jill Chin
Suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.
Jordan Myrick
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Kendall Landris
Love you, ABC
Jill Chin
bring me back.
Jordan Myrick
Do participants actually think they're going to find a good relationship girl?
Jill Chin
Yes. I thought that, too. I. I was mainlining the Kool Aid. Like, I was like, I'm going to be one of those people. Yeah. No, I. I would convince myself so hard. I have, like, journal entries, and I'm like, what the. Like, I'm reading back my journal. I'm like, this is so pathetic. Like, I'm embarrassed to actually be you.
Kendall Landris
Well, so once you got there and you're like, okay, I can make myself, like, attracted to Clayton. Clayton, right.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Did you ever, like, convince yourself? Were you like, wait, I actually want
Jill Chin
to marry him 100%.
Kendall Landris
I'm obsessed with that.
Jill Chin
It's a hell of a drug.
Kendall Landris
But that's why I tell people, I know this is bad advice, but I'm like, you can make your. Like, when girls of my, like, girlfriends of mine, like, I just can't, like, find a guy that like. Like that every guy, like, is, like, a bad person. Like, and I'm like, you can actually make yourself love anyone.
Jill Chin
No, you actually can because I did it. And the environment, it's like. It's all around him, and they're hyping him up, and so you're like, well, yeah, like, it's him.
Jordan Myrick
Sure.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Is there a contract for the winners to stay with the Bachelor for a certain amount of time, or does it not matter?
Jill Chin
No, it doesn't matter.
Jordan Myrick
Do you think they'll ever make a queer version of the Bachelor?
Jill Chin
I hope they didn't outstrip.
Kendall Landris
Yes.
Jordan Myrick
Yes. I just don't think it works, unfortunately. I think the formatting. The formatting of the show doesn't work. The whole point of the more creative it can be a different show. And they had a show like this for gay men, I mean, years and years ago, but it was like they all just had sex with each other. So the show didn't work.
Jill Chin
Yes. Well, there was a bisexual bachelorette. I think she had both men and women. Oh.
Kendall Landris
And how did that go? She ended up with a man, though. Yeah.
Jill Chin
I don't know.
Kendall Landris
I did love that. The season of the Bachelor in paradise where Demi me.
Jill Chin
Yes.
Kendall Landris
They bring the woman on.
Jill Chin
Brought her own.
Kendall Landris
Brought her on from out.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
That is the craziest thing ever. But I was like, oh, well, maybe they could do a mix where I think the bisexual woman is fun. Although then it hurts. Then you're like, I. It feels like a hate crime if she marries a man. Like, it feels really mean.
Jill Chin
It does feel like.
Jordan Myrick
It feels like.
Kendall Landris
Why'd you make us watch?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, I just think it's totally flawed in terms of what the show would be. I think they could do a queer Love is Blind.
Jill Chin
I was gonna wear Love is Blind
Jordan Myrick
is perfect, where everyone stayed separate, though everyone's in their own hotel room. So it's like the circle meets Love is Blind. I think they could do a gay version of that.
Kendall Landris
I think it's hard on the Bachelor because I think what would happen is what happened on that one girl season of the Bachelor, Bachelorette, where she immediately met. What's his name, Dale.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my God.
Kendall Landris
That's what a lesbian season would be. I think they would be the first day I'd meet the first girl, and I'd go, well, that's my wife.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
And I would be locked in.
Jill Chin
Well, yeah.
Kendall Landris
Really hard to. Not.
Jill Chin
Because lesbians are operating at a higher frequency. Like.
Kendall Landris
Right.
Jill Chin
This is.
Kendall Landris
No, I'm trying to lock it down. We're trying to buy a farm. Exactly.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, yeah.
Kendall Landris
You know, messing around.
Jordan Myrick
Absolutely. Absolutely. What is the food like on the show? Are you responsible for your own meals? Do they have catering? Can you bring your own snacks?
Jill Chin
Okay, so this is interesting. So when you're in the mansion, you have to cook your own food, and so they bring in food for you to cook. What they don't tell you is that there's 20 women using one kitchen, and there was one set of pots and pans.
Kendall Landris
What's like the. That's insane.
Jill Chin
It was look or say it was nice, but there was one.
Kendall Landris
Hard to wash. So heavy.
Jill Chin
Hard to wash. Yeah.
Kendall Landris
What's like the snack that. Because I'm just like. That's such a specific group of women. Like, what is the snack that's being mostly consumed? Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
What are people are eating or not eating?
Jill Chin
Yeah. So there's Go macro bars, Gummy bears. There was, like, a huge wall of, like, little snacks that you could pick at.
Jordan Myrick
That's fun.
Jill Chin
So those are big.
Kendall Landris
They going big on the chomps.
Jill Chin
I see Chomps weren't out back when I was on the show.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my God, you're aging me. Yeah.
Jill Chin
But on. On the HGTV show, I just did chomps. Right. Big. But then on paradise, it. It's like a resource. You can order whatever you want, and it's so nice. Oh, my God. It's so nice.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, I love that. How influential are individual contestants, producers on what people do slash say or how much they're shown?
Jill Chin
Quite.
Jordan Myrick
So are people lusting after certain producers? Are people like this? Because you know, you all get a one on one producer. To my understanding. Yeah. Are there people couple. Okay. Okay. And are there people where it's like Brian is the top tier producer. Everybody wants Brian to be their producer.
Jill Chin
You know their ranking for sure. It. There's definitely. You can see the hierarchy.
Jordan Myrick
Okay.
Jill Chin
But also you develop such a friendship. Like I'm friends with my producers, like to this day. Like I love them. And you trust them because they're. You're only tethered to the real world.
Kendall Landris
Yes.
Jill Chin
You don't have anything else. So you, you are trusting them. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
And you felt like they were genuine and not evil.
Jill Chin
I mean you had to take everything. Grain of salt. Like I knew telling. Yeah. It's a mix. Some there was like villain producers. Like you're like, oh, like this one's going to be problem. But yeah, I mean they're all there to make good TV and I'm willing to play ball. Like it's fun. I'm just having fun. I'm enjoying the amenities.
Kendall Landris
Well, especially if you're like, okay, you're going to make. Because I think it's probably. I always think of like on Dance Moms or Honey Boo Boo. I always think about. It's wild. These people, it's like they, the producers are like their parents. Like they're literally their parents. And it's this weird dynamic of like I've seen some clips of Honey Boo Boo where it's like I should. I got it. I should not watch that show. But I can't stop. And it's like. Or I guess now it's June Hot to not. Doesn't matter.
Jordan Myrick
But anyway, don't plug it. She's not here.
Kendall Landris
I know.
Jordan Myrick
I don't know why, but she.
Kendall Landris
But the producers, it's like they're trying to make good drama. But then like there are moments where the, even the producers, it's like they have to put their job aside and they're like, this is too crazy.
Jill Chin
No, they've like cried with me like behind the camera. Like I'm doing an interview and they're getting very emotional. Like that happens. We, we develop like really amazing like connections with these people.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, are people fighting off camera or do we see all the fights?
Jill Chin
You pretty much see all the fights because you know you're miked up all the time. So if they hear something a foot, they're running.
Kendall Landris
And I love. Have you ever tried to, like, start a fight to be like, I got to get some screen time?
Jill Chin
No, it just happens, dude. It just like. And it's even on, like, Bachelor Takeover, which I just filmed. Drama just happened. It was an HGTV show when there was drama Mama.
Jordan Myrick
Wow. Were you jealous of other women on the shows you've been on?
Jill Chin
Yeah, I'm like, why is she getting all the dates? Yeah, of course. Of course.
Jordan Myrick
And I'm not gonna make you say who, but do you have a nemesis in the franchise?
Jill Chin
They come and go because you do.
Kendall Landris
You. You killed him. They come and go.
Jill Chin
Yeah, I just, like, they. They just don't become as relevant in your life. Like, it seems like all pervasive. Been like, oh, my God.
Jordan Myrick
All encompassing.
Jill Chin
Like, this person's terrorizing me. But then you just, like, don't care anymore. And I'm at. I'm at that age where, like, I just. I just can't deal with it.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Was there anything cut from your season that you wish hadn't been cut?
Jill Chin
Yeah, all my scenes, all the bits I was doing. No, I had, like, a medic scene where, like, I had to call the medic out and, like, yeah, they took my blood sugar, and they did all.
Kendall Landris
And, like.
Jill Chin
And of course, the camera's, like, right here.
Kendall Landris
And you were thinking. You said, God.
Jill Chin
I was like, you're like, this is
Jordan Myrick
going to be in the trailer.
Jill Chin
Absolutely. And they did put, like. Like, laying on the ground, but then they never put it in. I was like, oh.
Jordan Myrick
Which just makes it seem like you're crying over, like, just being.
Jill Chin
Yes. So dramatic.
Jordan Myrick
Absolutely. Okay, final question. How did your parents feel about it?
Jill Chin
They were like, you're crazy. But they know how I am. And so they're like, okay. And then it just, like, kept working out. And then, like, I started to get cool stuff. Like, you know, I brought my dad to the Patriots game field, and he's like, all right. Like, this is kind of cool. You know, if somebody, you know, I get, like, free stuff every now and then, and they're like, oh, okay. Like, they like that aspect of it.
Jordan Myrick
And do they watch
Jill Chin
sometimes?
Jordan Myrick
Okay.
Jill Chin
Yeah, but they. They know, like, I got my job from the show because they're like, you know, the zoning officer saw me on the show and was like, we need a preservation planner. Let's hire her.
Jordan Myrick
Wow.
Kendall Landris
So funny.
Jill Chin
That's really fun.
Jordan Myrick
And, Jill, plug the show you're on
Jill Chin
right now, so it's Called Bachelor Mansion Takeover. And this is my camera. It's called Bachelor Mansion Takeover. It's on HGTV and hbo.
Jordan Myrick
Max. I mean, that's kind of cool. Huge.
Jill Chin
Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Same network as all of our boys on Heated Rivalry.
Kendall Landris
Oh, my God.
Jordan Myrick
You're on the same network as them. Oh, my God.
Jill Chin
Wait, I also have gifts for you guys.
Jordan Myrick
What?
Kendall Landris
You do not.
Jill Chin
I do. And they're. And they're specific to you guys. Okay.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, my God.
Jill Chin
We never had.
Jordan Myrick
I don't know anyone really. Well, Ash Perez brought us little cards, but that seems like child's play now compared to a gift.
Jill Chin
Okay.
Kendall Landris
So they.
Jill Chin
They are personal. Okay. So have you read this book? No.
Kendall Landris
Oh, okay. We'll have fun.
Jill Chin
Oh, my God. So this book is so kind. Sorry. Yes. So it's. It's a very quick read.
Jordan Myrick
You'll read it.
Jill Chin
You'll gobble it up. It's very, like.
Kendall Landris
It's so good.
Jill Chin
It's like. I actually can't explain it because it'll
Kendall Landris
give it away, but it's so up my alley.
Jill Chin
Lesbians. Yeah.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah.
Kendall Landris
Chill. This is. I'm gonna read this New day.
Jill Chin
Yeah. And then you'll be like, why did you give me that book?
Kendall Landris
No, I always love to the top. Where is it? Where they put, like, a little part. Oh. When Sweet Romance Turns Deadly.
Jordan Myrick
I mean. Yeah, that's right up your alley.
Kendall Landris
I want read. This is so nice.
Jordan Myrick
And you've read.
Jill Chin
I've read. And you love read. Well, it's like you just got.
Kendall Landris
I got to read all.
Jill Chin
And then I got you the Noa Cook I love. Don't have it. No, I don't have it.
Jordan Myrick
Cookbook. But I lived in New York for a very long time, so I would go here, and when my dad would come to town, this was his favorite place to go, and we would go together. Oh, my God.
Jill Chin
That's.
Kendall Landris
I love dim sum.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, You're a big. Okay, so the next time you're in town, we have to go get dim sum.
Kendall Landris
Of course we have a favorite dim sum restaurant. That is so good. It's like cart dim sum.
Jordan Myrick
It's like, so it's far.
Jill Chin
Love that.
Kendall Landris
But we'll.
Jordan Myrick
You'll get in our car and we'll travel.
Jill Chin
Is far.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, I know.
Kendall Landris
I know.
Jill Chin
So crazy.
Kendall Landris
This is really. I feel like I could cry. I'm so excited.
Jill Chin
So sweet.
Kendall Landris
And you've actually done a great thing because we're taking her to our final segment, which is, John, if you could pull up the image. Oh, we. And this is really serious. We're picking a third.
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, we're doing a bracket this season. So all of our guests get put into the bracket of who could potentially be our third. And then at the end of the season, we'll find out who is the ultimate third.
Kendall Landris
Okay, so we have happening right now, so.
Jill Chin
Oh, my God.
Kendall Landris
So you're going to up against our friend.
Jordan Myrick
Our friend Kara Connors, hilarious comedian. I'll tell you right now. No, it's Kara's toast. Bye, Kara.
Kendall Landris
Oh, really?
Jordan Myrick
I love her.
Kendall Landris
On her episode, we said we can't the compatibility. Her and I are too similar. We would be in prison. It would be okay. She and I love her dearly.
Jordan Myrick
She's a maniac. And she didn't bring a gift.
Kendall Landris
And she didn't bring a gift. She doesn't even know probably how to
Jill Chin
Wait, so wait, so you're choosing.
Kendall Landris
We're picking. So. No, you have to kind of sell yourself a little.
Jill Chin
Oh.
Kendall Landris
So. And. And we're. We're not messing around. This isn't a joke. Okay, Jill, So you need to like, think how would you be compatible with the two of us?
Jill Chin
This is.
Kendall Landris
I mean, we're. We'd be living together.
Jill Chin
Okay.
Kendall Landris
There's a lot.
Jordan Myrick
We'd be loving together.
Kendall Landris
We'd be loving together.
Jill Chin
Yes, yes, yes.
Kendall Landris
So you kind of sell why you think to Jordan and I, you'd be a good third.
Jill Chin
Okay, well, obviously, I love giving gifts. I am a gift myself. I think that I can broth, you know.
Jordan Myrick
Good.
Kendall Landris
We could do a three prom team.
Jordan Myrick
Good. We're trying to do more improv at home.
Jill Chin
Yeah, definitely bring that into the home. Into the bedroom.
Kendall Landris
Spontaneity.
Jill Chin
Right? Exactly. I will eat your food.
Kendall Landris
Thank you.
Jill Chin
But I have experience, you know, I think I'm on overall delight.
Kendall Landris
You.
Jordan Myrick
Well, of course I think you have a girl job.
Kendall Landris
We were craving that job. Right?
Jill Chin
Exact. I have stability.
Kendall Landris
I got to piss.
Jill Chin
Pension.
Jordan Myrick
A pension.
Kendall Landris
What's that shoe do you wear? Huh? What's that shoe?
Jill Chin
Oh, six and a half.
Jordan Myrick
Oh.
Kendall Landris
Yeah. That's not what.
Jill Chin
We're not going to work.
Kendall Landris
Oh.
Jill Chin
Are you guys the same?
Jordan Myrick
Yeah, we're tens.
Jill Chin
You're soul mates.
Kendall Landris
I know.
Jordan Myrick
Soulmates. And that's so true. Listen, I'm saying you're beating Cara, and I'm also going to go ahead and say it. You're beating Drew.
Jill Chin
Really? Oh, I can't possibly be Drew.
Jordan Myrick
Well, we love. Well, we love Drew too, but I'm like, I'm. Well, you just looked at me and said, I'll eat your. So it's hard to. It's hard to. You know, Drew certainly didn't say that. So it's. I feel like, how can you compete?
Kendall Landris
But we might need to give her the opportunity to speak. You know, we're gonna.
Jordan Myrick
We'll reach out. Yeah, yeah.
Kendall Landris
The top four. Figure out what to do to, you know, to compete.
Jordan Myrick
Wow.
Kendall Landris
But I'm on the Joe train to do. I think you're going to be. You're definitely, I think, going to be top two, but I don't want to speak out of turn.
Jill Chin
Oh, my God. Wait. You obviously have the other contenders lined
Kendall Landris
up, I don't think. No, we were very unorganized at the way you. Well, we just kind of like, we'll meet. We'll be like, come on the podcast,
Jordan Myrick
you know, but it's all vibes based.
Kendall Landris
We don't know. But if you do win or maybe even get top two, we might have to. We might have to have you back.
Jill Chin
I mean, God forbid.
Jordan Myrick
I hate that you live so far away.
Jill Chin
I know. But I am willing to travel.
Jordan Myrick
That's good. And we'll travel, too. I love to go on a little northeast vacation.
Jill Chin
Yeah, it is. Oh, my God. In the summer. Gorgeous sailboat school by drinking an Adirondack.
Jordan Myrick
Oh, we love a boat.
Kendall Landris
Are you, like, you're locked in?
Jill Chin
Yeah, I'm locked in. I love that girl. I love that feel. Like LA is just sprawling.
Kendall Landris
Yeah, sure. Well, we always move. We live it. We live in. We like to live in a small. We'll go to, like, the outskirts a little bit where we're living in kind of like next to a school zone with a bunch of families. Like, we don't like living in the thick of it.
Jill Chin
Yeah, of course.
Kendall Landris
So I get that. But thank you so much for coming.
Jordan Myrick
Thank you so much. This was such a treat. We absolutely loved this. And as always, don't forget that Kendall and I pay for this podcast ourselves. So make sure to, like, comment, subscribe, tell everyone everything about us. Join our Patreon.
Kendall Landris
We have a book club going on right now that's an absolute hoot and a holler.
Jordan Myrick
It's great.
Kendall Landris
I'm reading a lesbian hockey book to try to get on the heated rivalry train.
Jordan Myrick
Yep.
Kendall Landris
And it's a hoot and a holler.
Jordan Myrick
Yep. And I'm reading a Gillian Flynn book. That's scary.
Kendall Landris
So sign up for that.
Jordan Myrick
So sign up and just join.
Kendall Landris
Thank you so much. And we can see you on HGTV.
Jill Chin
You can see him on HGTV. Follow me on Instagram. Jilchin. Underscore or follow my TikTok. I don't really know what it is. I'm not really active on social media.
Jordan Myrick
That's okay.
Kendall Landris
We'll.
Jordan Myrick
We'll post them all so you can follow them anyway. But yeah, Jill, thank you so much. Thanks everybody, for watching. We'll see you next Monday.
Jill Chin
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Episode 103: The Juiciest Details from The Bachelor w/ Jill Chin (Completely NSFW)
Original air date: March 23, 2026
Hosts: Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Guest: Jill Chin (The Bachelor/Bachelor in Paradise)
Kendahl and Jordan, comedians in a loving queer partnership, get “NSFW” with Bachelor Nation favorite Jill Chin. From outrageous behind-the-scenes Bachelor secrets and the price of reality TV fame to lesbian energy, relationship advice, bodily autonomy, and even ghost-hunting family lore, this episode delivers unfiltered, hilarious, and deeply honest confessions about love, reality shows, sex, and finding yourself.
Jill’s Entry as a Contestant
Types of Contestants
Self-Funding, No Pay
Why Do It?
Casting and On-Show Experience
Lesbian Vibes and Diversity
Resonance with Audiences
The Problem with Funny Women on TV
On-Show Relationships and Post-Show Status
Living Conditions and Health Issues
Alcohol and Food
Producers and Show Hierarchy
Show Manipulation
Experimenting and Learning
Queer Bachelor?
On The Bachelor Experience:
On Gender and Attractiveness in Bachelor World:
On Reality TV Romance:
On Childhood Sex Ed:
On Queer Love and Lesbian Priorities:
Host-Favorite Bachelor Contestants:
On Ghosts:
On Being Top-Tier Guest:
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|---------------------| | 04:41 | Why contestants pay for all their own stuff—secrets of Bachelor budgeting | | 06:36 | Three types of people who go on The Bachelor | | 14:04 | The reality of Paradise: no AC, sandy beds, infections, and gross bathrooms | | 16:45 | Jill reveals her current relationship status and privacy philosophy | | 18:10 | Honest talk: why funny and smart women struggle on the show | | 31:08 | Heated debates about hottest contestants—plus the hosts’ queer fan fiction crushes | | 36:01 | Sex ed stories: making out with pillows and “boobalas” | | 40:13 | Childhood euphemisms for body parts—hootie and boobalas | | 54:23 | Jill’s ghost-hunting family story | | 56:52 | How alcohol and food are restricted/managed on set | | 58:43 | The psychology of falling in (and out of) love on reality TV | | 60:31 | Bachelor food and snack situations revealed | | 62:06 | Producers’ impact and contestant/producer relationships | | 65:46 | Jill brings gifts, securing top contender status in the “third” competition |
This episode delivers a hilarious, raw, and revealing inside look at The Bachelor, the making of reality TV, and the queer/outsider perspective on mainstream dating culture. Jill Chin’s humor, candor, and story-telling shine—whether she’s talking about behind-the-scenes survival, the politics of big boobs, or her family’s ghost-hunting legacy. The conversation also dives deep into the psychology of reality TV, the awkwardness of sex ed, and the importance of self-worth outside appearances.
Highly recommended for fans of The Bachelor, reality TV junkies, and anyone who likes their relationship podcast advice messy, irreverent, and queer-centered.
For more: Catch Jill Chin on HGTV’s “Bachelor Mansion Takeover” and follow her on Instagram @jilchin_!