112: You SHOULD Be Single feat. Siobhan Thompson

Summary

Happy Wife Happy Life

Episode 112: “You SHOULD Be Single” feat. Siobhan Thompson

Released: May 25, 2026

Host(s): Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Guest: Siobhan Thompson

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the beauty and challenges of intentional singlehood, featuring comedian and writer Siobhan Thompson. Kendahl and Jordan chat with Siobhan about her multifaceted career, the value of being single, breaking away from relationship “crutches,” and why joy—not happiness—should be everyone’s priority. The trio traverse everything from surviving miserable jobs and schools, to why being in the right relationship trumps just filling a slot, and offer sharp (and hilarious) advice to listeners who are choosing to fly solo.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Siobhan’s Comedic & Career Origins (01:28–04:47)

• Siobhan is best known from Broad City, Rick and Morty, other cartoon writing, and for “pedestrianizing” in LA.
• Fun anecdote: Siobhan was the “bitch barista” in Broad City’s first season (02:17).
• Recurring joke on residuals: “Yes, I do get quite a lot of residuals for Broad City. By quite a lot, I mean very frequent $2 checks.” —Siobhan (03:44)
• Origin stories about jobs in TV, role changes, and how actors/writers often expect a big break and get “nothing” instead.

Growing Up & Learning Differences (06:49–10:10)

• Discussion on childhood, dyslexia and ADHD. Siobhan was diagnosed as an adult:
  "I went to them and went, I am dyslexic, and you need to test me.” (07:40)
• Shared stories about being misdiagnosed or feeling “lazy,” and the relief of receiving proper diagnoses as adults.
• Kendahl’s experience of working extremely hard while still struggling:
  “My psychology teacher being like, it’s just the saddest thing I’ve ever seen. Kendall tries so hard...I have 50 flashcards.” (09:43)

Archaeologist Past & The Reality of “Cool Jobs” (11:43–18:19)

• Siobhan used to be an archaeologist in England, primarily digging in gloomy, uncomfortable, low-paying conditions.
• The fantasy vs. reality of “amazing” jobs:
  "You think it’s going to be this, and it’s actually reading constantly.” —Kendahl (12:14)
• Grimy details ("calluses under the skin," "buff arms but a beer gut," “egg and bacon” tan lines), setting up the running joke:
  “I don’t want a man messing up my beautiful house with their fucking Funko Pops.” —Siobhan (62:53)
• Amusing tangent: difference between archaeology vs. paleontology (15:46).

Life Lessons from Being Single (18:25–24:41)

• Siobhan credits her interesting life to being single:
  "I’ve always prioritized doing interesting things over dating boring people. And I think that’s why I’ve lived so many lives." (18:31)
• Key philosophy: It’s better to be single than in a relationship of convenience.
• Insight: Most people are in relationships as “crutches,” not for genuine connection.
  "I look around at my friends and go, do you like that person?” —Siobhan (19:02)
• Distinction between joy and happiness:
  "I’m a big advocate for joy and joy you can get anywhere. Go to the movies. Hang out with your friends—joy. Those little moments of joy add up to happiness." —Siobhan (20:28)

Relationships, Gender Roles & Chores (24:44–27:21)

• Frustrations with relationships—especially with men—becoming about doing more chores.
• Lesbians and chore division: more about actual skills/preferences than patriarchal expectations.
• Notable quote:
  "I see a lot of straight women being like, ‘he was a project.’ It’s like, I don’t...I would rather learn to sew. I don’t need to make a man human!” —Siobhan (25:26)

Social Pressures, Childhood, and School Anecdotes (27:32–33:38)

• All-girls school horror stories—Siobhan describes a mean environment where teachers sometimes got bullied out.
• Joke about being tall early and the social confusion it creates:
  "People come up to you at school and they’re like, excuse me, miss, I want to talk about my child’s grade, and you’re like, I’m [a child]." —Kendahl (27:41)
• Rambling, funny tangent on people named after songs (Jolene, Caroline, Stacy, etc.) and how songs about women’s names are much more iconic than men’s.

Attitudes Toward Dating, Being Single, and Social Structure (36:14–54:13)

• A critique of stereotypical straight relationships, especially outside big cities ("he was the third hottest guy in my older brother’s friend group"; 37:05).
• Many people, especially women, use marriage and children as sources of excitement or social validation:
  “A lot of these women are so invisible to society. They’re desperate for someone to look at them, and then they just keep having babies.” —Kendahl (38:17)
• Suggestions to get attention other ways: “Instead of getting attention from having a baby, why don’t you burn down a bank?” —Siobhan (38:28), to big laughs.
• Discussion of burnout from “gifted” programs, the “smart vs. gay kind of smart” debate (39:48-40:07).

Listener Q&A & Practical Advice

Dealing with Judgy Relatives (43:57–46:53)

• "I don't know why you're pandering to your relatives...I sort of don't think it's any of their business." —Siobhan (43:57)
• Advice: Be direct, acknowledge their rudeness if needed, and don’t make big life decisions to please family.

How Can Coupled Friends Support Single Friends? (47:07–49:15)

• Couples should avoid turning into “closed units” who deprioritize friendships.
• Siobhan: “Sometimes I have to explicitly ask for help in a way I don’t expect my friends to.” (48:18)
• The U.S. is unusually couple-focused (religion, capitalism, lack of social support).
• Importance of maintaining independent, robust friendships even with children or spouses.

Talking About Intentional Singlehood (55:06–56:48)

• What to say if people assume you’re unhappy: “I think you just have to not care, because the reality is that they're miserable and you're not.” —Siobhan (55:15)
• People in happy relationships don’t judge single people; it’s more the miserable couples who do.

Sex & Dating While Remaining Single (57:27–61:16)

• If you want casual sex: "You have to leave your house. Go to a dance party, a bar, a trivia night. If it's just a casual sex situation, go to a bar...that's very easy." —Siobhan (57:43; 59:05)
• Don’t rely on dating apps unless they genuinely work for you; focus on vibe, not the resume.
• Kendahl shares her “masturbation journey” as a form of self-sufficiency, encouraging listeners to “buy yourself a nice toy and give yourself an hour and a half in the shower.” (58:00)
• For those who want connection, consider ultra-specific meetups (“book club of open singles interested in BDSM”—59:00).

Why It’s So Much Better Being Happily Single (61:16–62:27)

• “Being happily single is 1 million times better than being in a not-so-hot relationship.” —Jordan (61:16)
• Many people in bad relationships get stuck trying to fix things that aren’t theirs to fix.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I’m open to making my life better always. And if that includes a relationship—great. But if it’s somebody coming over and not doing the dishes and asking me to make them a sandwich...I’m simply not interested.” —Siobhan (23:23)
• “If you're so good at making sandwiches...wait, you're an archaeologist?” —Kendahl, jump-cutting between Siobhan’s resume and life choices (11:39)
• “Life is for the living, and you have to live it. If they want to be in a relationship, that’s great, but that’s nothing to do with you.” —Siobhan (45:35)
• “Instead of getting attention from having a baby, why don’t you burn down a bank?” —Siobhan (38:28)

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Notable Timestamps

• 01:28–04:47: Siobhan’s media/entertainment career stories
• 11:43–16:18: Archaeology realities & why “dream jobs” can suck
• 18:31–24:41: Why being single can lead to a more interesting, fulfilling life
• 36:14–38:32: Critique of societal pressures on marriage & motherhood
• 43:57–46:53: Advice for handling nosy/judgy relatives about singlehood
• 47:07–49:15: How coupled friends can (and don’t) support singles
• 55:06–56:48: Communicating intentional singlehood pride
• 57:27–61:16: Where/how happily single (and horny!) people can fulfill themselves

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Final Takeaways

• Intentional Singlehood is Powerful: Siobhan exemplifies how staying single can be a conscious, rewarding choice rather than a fallback, enabling explorations in career, friendship, and self-discovery.
• Choose Joy, Not Just Happiness: Focus on moments of joy in everyday life, accumulating those to build true happiness instead of chasing an ill-defined, all-encompassing goal.
• Set Boundaries & Ignore Pressure: Family and societal questioning are often more reflective of their difficulties, not yours. Be assertive about your choices.
• Don’t Accept Relationship “Crutches”: If a partner doesn’t truly build on your life, think twice.
• Cultivate Community: Even in a couple-centric society, nurture independent friendships and ask for what you need.

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Guest Info

Siobhan Thompson:

• Watch Dimension 20
• Follow her on socials: @vytom

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This summary skips sponsor messages, intro/outros, and focuses solely on core episode content, retaining the comedic and candid tone of Kendahl, Jordan, and Siobhan.

Transcript

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[Jordan Myra]

Welcome to Happy Wife, Happy Life.

[Kendall Landrin]

We're your hosts. I'm Kendall Landrin.

[Jordan Myra]

And I'm Jordan Myra.

[Kendall Landrin]

And we are too incredibly unqualified but

[Jordan Myra]

deeply in love comedians who are here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, we talking choosing to stay Single with Siobhan Thompson.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Hello,

[Kendall Landrin]

Siobhan.

[Jordan Myra]

Thanks so much for being here.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Thank you for having me.

[Jordan Myra]

We're really excited to have you.

[Kendall Landrin]

Everyone knows you already.

[Jordan Myra]

But just in case they don't because they're dumb losers, let's refresh them on. On where they know you from.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't know. You might have seen me walking the streets of Los Angeles. You're all, I'm a pedestrian. I love to pedestrianize. Yes, I guess to mention 20.

[Jordan Myra]

No, probably not.

[Kendall Landrin]

Maybe more than walking.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, I have an. I have an under five in the first season of Broad City. A lot of people recognize me from that.

[Jordan Myra]

I do have to ask you because I worked in the art department on the first season of Broad City. Yeah, I was an intern there.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, okay.

[Jordan Myra]

In college. And I worked in the first season.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Classic nyu.

[Jordan Myra]

Of course. What episode? What was your.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I played a bitch barista who. Who was mean. And that was it.

[Kendall Landrin]

Do you remember that? Did you get the coffee cups for that?

[Jordan Myra]

Probably. I have to go back and watch that because that would have been from before. We know each other.

[Siobhan Thompson]

So it was fun, actually. So I was in the pilot as an extra, but in a way that was like, and you'll be a part. And then the place where I was an extra was in the coffee shop that Abby worked at. And as we all remember, that's not what happened. So they fully changed Abby's place of work.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Will Hines was Abby's boss, and it was me and Aaron Jackson. And then they fully changed all of that, and then they were like, you want to come in for three lines?

[Jordan Myra]

It's so crazy that we were talking about this the other day, but in this industry, it's just like, you can get something, and you're like, this is awesome. This is going to be great for my reel. Or even like, we were talking about the Batgirl movie.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

Fully made, fully shot, edited, everything. Yes. And those people must have been like, you know, the director, the one.

[Kendall Landrin]

Because if I got cast in a Marvel. No. What is that? Dc? Dc? Who knows? That's Diet Cooked. Me. I don't know. What is dc?

[Jordan Myra]

DC Comics.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, got it, got it, got it.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Detective Comics. Comics.

[Kendall Landrin]

Thank you. If I got cast in that, I would be like, oh, okay, I'm about to just before that, buy a $5 billion home, because I'm gonna be rich. Absolutely. And I'm gonna be an A list.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. I'm gonna get residuals for the rest of my life.

[Kendall Landrin]

And you get nothing.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes, I do get quite a lot of residuals for Broad City. By quite a lot, I mean very frequent $2 checks.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes. No, but that's nice.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's nice.

[Kendall Landrin]

That's. Because that's not common.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I feel really rewatching Broad City still. And I'm thankful to everybody who does that.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah. $2 at a time.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Hey, you're. You're buying my lattes.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, that's what my grandma used to say. She would say, count your nickels and dimes, and the dollars will take care of themselves.

[Jordan Myra]

Kind of loves to say that. Well, she's never lived in this day in her life.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Kind of loves to say that, but.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah. You know Siobhan from D20, Rick and Morty.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. I was a writer on Rick and Morty. You've done so much and a bunch of other animated shows. I'm out there slanging cartoons to the youth.

[Kendall Landrin]

I love it.

[Jordan Myra]

I want to know, what's your favorite cartoon of all time?

[Kendall Landrin]

I was literally going to ask that.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Postman Pat. Such an English reference. It's a children's cartoon.

[Kendall Landrin]

We both said Postman.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I genuinely do Love Rick and Morty. It was my first staffing job, and I was like, this is great.

[Jordan Myra]

That's incredible.

[Kendall Landrin]

Is Postman Pat a penguin?

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, that's Pingu.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, I know Pingu.

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, Postman Pat is a man. Pingu came to the stage, and he has a black and white cat.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay.

[Kendall Landrin]

Because I used to play this board game called Penguin Pat. My favorite games. And if you win, you get to be the big tuna. But I.

[Jordan Myra]

So fully unrelated. But I thought maybe they pivoted that to a brick.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, maybe it was, like, based on.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, this is just kind of fishing alter ego. You know what it'll be? Oh, you can buy, like, Peppa Pig stuff, but she's a nurse.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I will say Postman Pat isn't technically a cartoon. It's animated, but it's like stop motion animation.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, that's like Pingu, too. Yeah, that's like Pingo. I remember one time getting super high watching Pingu. Swear to God. Best night of my life.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I remember watching Pingo as a little kid and being like, what language are they speaking?

[Kendall Landrin]

What is it?

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's nonsense.

[Kendall Landrin]

Nonsense.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I'm not speaking any language. But I remember being like, why are. Why what? What language is this? What am I supposed to be learning from this?

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But the poem does fall out a lot. Just a joy of life.

[Jordan Myra]

I think I was gonna say we used to not have to learn stuff. I remember when I was little, a lot of the stuff I was watching was not for learning.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

It was just to enjoy.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. Nobody's learning. So I was watching Frasier, but like, Thundercats. Nobody's learning anything from me.

[Kendall Landrin]

You're learning anything.

[Jordan Myra]

At most, you're watching, like, Care Bears. You're learning friendship, things like that. You're not now it's like everyone's trying to be like, we gotta teach them stuff so young.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

Which doesn't matter because you know what?

[Kendall Landrin]

It all evens out. I'm just like, you put all this effort in teaching your baby stuff.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I think based on the state of the country right now, it does not even out. No, it absolutely does not even out.

[Kendall Landrin]

You don't think when people are like, my one year old can read. I'm like, okay, well, everyone else's six year old can read.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

So she'll figure it out eventually, and you're gonna look like a real fool.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Sure. I do think that. Weirdly, one of the side effects of television being educational is that parents are now like, I don't have to educate my child in front of the Television. That does not work.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, it does not work. The TVs are not good. I think there's nothing we don't teach them any.

[Jordan Myra]

No learning.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They'll figure it out.

[Kendall Landrin]

They will learn more from just human interaction. No learning. Like, no, you're not doing flashcards on your baby. Do none of that. No TV and just human interaction.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, I think having books available and being read to just that sort of Nell experiment where you just throw a child in a well for 12 years and then they come out.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Kendall's like, do the cloth, mother all of the children. Like that monkey.

[Kendall Landrin]

My mom was reading to me like, crazy. Waste of her time. Waste of her time. I didn't learn to read way late.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, well, that's. Something's wrong with you, though. So that's different. Not all kids have that.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right. Right. But then if, you know, I don't

[Siobhan Thompson]

know, there's something wrong with me. I could read real early.

[Jordan Myra]

Me, too.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They did not pick up on my dyslexia because I could read real good, but then I couldn't spell for shit. They were like, why can you read at this level and not fucking write anything?

[Jordan Myra]

Kendall's dyslexic, too.

[Kendall Landrin]

I am. Well, when did you get diagnosed with it?

[Siobhan Thompson]

I was 18. I went to them and went, I am dyslexic, and you need to test me.

[Jordan Myra]

Someone needs to help. Please view everything.

[Kendall Landrin]

Because you were. Or you were, like, pretty. They were like, she's fine.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I was not pretty now. No, no, no. I really was not.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, we need a picture.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I will. I don't know if they're findable, because I very cleverly went, you will not be photographing me. But I had, like, really bad acne. Wow. So did you, like, just absolutely unconquerable. Terrible. Like, the acne kid up.

[Kendall Landrin]

Did you do Accutane?

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, I didn't. I did topical retinoids, and they were not useful to me.

[Kendall Landrin]

That was like, me. I did it all. And then finally I did Accutane, and it changed my life.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, you're younger than both of us, and I think Accutane was a thing later, because I never heard about Accutane. I.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They talked about it for me. But then they were also like. And it's very dangerous, and it's the most dangerous thing that you can do. I was like, well, then I'm not gonna do it.

[Kendall Landrin]

My acne was. I was so. Well, I was so. Because I wanted to go to acting school, and I said, well, whatever the side effects are, as long as I'm a star, and I can't be a star with this face, so I gotta do something. Yeah. But it was crazy. It was like I had to call every month and vow to abstinence. Over the phone.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

And they. On the package, when you take the medication, there's a deformed. A photo of a deformed baby on the packaging. It's a cartoon. To be clear, it's not a real baby, but it's like a photo.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's a. I went to Catholic school. I saw pictures of deformed babies. Yeah, it was.

[Kendall Landrin]

And it was like, every time you look at it and be like, okay, if I have sex, this is what my baby will look like.

[Jordan Myra]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

It was pretty wild. But I just feel like sometimes girls are not diagnosed with stuff if they have any normal interaction. People are like, you couldn't possibly have a learning disability.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. Because I also have adhd, and I was diagnosed, like, three years ago, same with Kendall. And then sat in the car and sobbed for 45 minutes.

[Kendall Landrin]

Was it because you were like, what could I have been?

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, not so much as that. As, like, oh, I wasn't lazy this whole time. Those people were wrong. Yeah. Now I do feel like recently I have gone. Actually, maybe I am quite.

[Kendall Landrin]

Two things can be true.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Two things can be true.

[Kendall Landrin]

You can have phases of your life.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, but that was like.

[Kendall Landrin]

Because I remember my psychology teacher being like, it's just the saddest thing I've ever seen. Kendall tries so hard. Yes. I mean, I would study for test. You have, like. I have flashcards for tests. People were like, I haven't owned a flashcard in my life, And I'm getting DS on these tests. I have. I have 50 flashcards for.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

My mom's read the chapters with me, explained every. And then it gets to the test, and I just couldn't. I couldn't do it. I'm sorry. You have dyslexia.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. I mean, it's fine. I'm a right to. Nothing holding me back.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But I do remember when I submitted my packet for College Humor afterwards, Mike Chapp was like, I have never seen so many typos. Like, 10 typos on one page.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, that was like.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I really worked so hard on it, though.

[Kendall Landrin]

You know, it's so funny that it

[Jordan Myra]

was good enough, though, to, like, not mad.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And it was also the last packet that they read. But I. I think that also, like, the way that we're writing is not for anybody to read. Except you're Writing books.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, the first time Jordan showed me Grammarly, I had to delete it off my computer because I said, this hurts too much. When I click the document and put. And my entire page is read. This is the thing I was about ready to submit to a publisher. I said, this is good. This is really good. And the whole thing is red because I've misspelled every single word.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, yeah. Well, my. Where's. Here's where I fall down is when I write a word that is a word, but it's a different word than what I was supposed to write. Like, I wrote an essay in college, and the guy. The guy. I have an archeology degree. This archaeologist, his last name was St. George. And I wrote St. George through the entire 10 page essay. Just read circles everywhere. Like, how did you do this? Very consistently misspelled.

[Jordan Myra]

I get.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, so in my book, the book I'm writing right now, the lead character's name is Aubrey. Oh, didn't put that for almost four chapters. I wrote Arby's.

[Jordan Myra]

That's because you were hungry.

[Kendall Landrin]

That's.

[Jordan Myra]

You said I'd eat a big beef and cheddar.

[Kendall Landrin]

Wait, you're an archaeologist?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, I was an archaeologist.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay. This is.

[Jordan Myra]

You two need to get lunch. We haven't.

[Kendall Landrin]

Sad, because it's just everything I wish. I'm like, wow, that's.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But, no, no, no.

[Jordan Myra]

But that's my dream.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's not.

[Kendall Landrin]

But I know.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Let me tell you right now, it's not.

[Kendall Landrin]

I want to dig. All I want to do is dig. And I need to find if there's a job where I can dig and look for bones, not even have to be bones. I could find an old watch. I was like, digging in dirt, finding stuff. And I love dinosaurs, but I know it's one of those jobs where people are like, you think it's going to be this? And it's actually reading constantly.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It actually isn't reading constantly, at least the way I did it. I was a field archaeologist for the Museum of London, and I worked in my hometown of Bath digging up. There was like an old 1900, 1960s shopping center that was being replaced by a nice.

[Kendall Landrin]

You did dig.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, I digged. I dug.

[Kendall Landrin]

That's my dream.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, it's definitely not your dream. In England.

[Kendall Landrin]

I don't know.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It rained every day, and you're outside in the rain and it's cold and unpleasant and you're not getting paid very much money, and you're a construction worker wearing a high vis vest and a hard hat every Day. And you get calluses on your hands where the dirt is underneath the skin of the galluses. So your hands just simply never get clean. You do get very buff.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I was so buff because you're literally like lifting a wheelbarrow full of rocks and pushing it through the mud.

[Jordan Myra]

Wow.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But it's not necessarily like a hot buff situation because it's like your arms get very buff because you're lifting and digging and maticking and stuff. It's like a pickaxe.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Your legs get very buff because you're, you know, again, lifting, but also you're squatting a lot.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Big gut. Because you're not doing any core work whatsoever. Okay. And then your tan lines are sock to top of short.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Farmer's tan on the arms.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Back of the neck. And then what we used to call the archaeologist's hand, or some people called it eggs and bacon or streaky bacon, like across the back where the T shirt rises up.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right. Wow.

[Jordan Myra]

And you're not touching me with any of that. I'll tell you right now.

[Kendall Landrin]

You don't like that.

[Jordan Myra]

Those dirty, calloused hands.

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, I never thought about that.

[Jordan Myra]

Why not?

[Siobhan Thompson]

And you have to cut your nails down to the quick because the dirt gets underneath there. You can wear gloves. If it's a hot day, you're wearing gloves. But it's also like that. It's hard to do fine work when you're in gloves. Also, even if you're wearing gloves, you get calluses, man. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Also, I mean, I know when I used to go. I used to play golf, and I had the tan line. It was scored tan line. And then this hand, because of the golfing glove, just one hand was white as snow, and then it was completely tan up. It looked just horrible. But so I don't know. Yeah, Maybe that's not for me, but I. It's just. Sounds so cool.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It. There are ways for you to go. If you wanted to. To go and do like, a two week or a month, like, essentially like an. Like an internship.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You can basically pay for play. If you want to go to, like, Minos and dig at Knossos, I might. They'll help. They'll let you do it. It'll be a lot of scrub and pots, a lot of shoveling. And you're paying for it to work. Yes, 100%.

[Kendall Landrin]

I'm gonna do it.

[Jordan Myra]

All right. Hey, I wonder if you make a cert. Let's decide on what the amount of money is. And if you make that amount of Money, One year. Then we'll send you.

[Kendall Landrin]

Send me to a dig.

[Jordan Myra]

Straight to Greece.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. But if you want to come over and I'll show you the basics of archaeology, I'll put a shovel in your hand.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, shovel in my hand. You did no digging.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Sure.

[Kendall Landrin]

Archaeologist doesn't need. We don't. Dirt comes way later.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And it's a lot of drawing as well. I don't know how you are. There's a lot of technical drawing, but they teach you how to do. There's, like, ways to do it where, you know, you get. There's a lot of, like, meter by meter grids that you're, like, laying down and then drawing.

[Kendall Landrin]

What's your favorite dinosaur? Is that offensive to ask in archaeology?

[Siobhan Thompson]

We don't do dinosaurs in archaeology.

[Kendall Landrin]

What is that? Paleontology.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Paleontology. Archaeology is the study of human material culture.

[Kendall Landrin]

What's the coolest thing you've dug up?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Almost nothing. Like, I think that that's a big part of it is that if I'd found anything interesting at all ever, I might still be doing it. It truly was like, oh, another drainage ditch.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, a series of small walls. And that thing of, like, a series of small walls we dug at Berkeley Castle was like the university thing. Like, dig.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And the year I did it was the first year they did it. And they were, like, very nervous about having these student archaeologists bumbling around the ground. Very fancy castles where Edward the Second was murdered.

[Jordan Myra]

Wow.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Used to be that you could walk from Berkeley Castle in Gloucestershire to Berkeley Square in London on the grounds of the Berkeleys. And then this one insane Earl spent all of his money on nothing. And now they're not that rich. But the year that we did it, we found absolute nothing. Like, truly absolutely nothing. The next year, smallpox pit.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, but is that because you guys kind of. It's like when you start to open a jar and you can't get it, but then the next person opens it really fast. Like, you guys got the first layer.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. No, I don't know what it was. I think it's probably because the first year they did it, they didn't want. They were worried that the guests at the castle. Cause it's like a tourist destination. They didn't. They were like, nobody wants to see these disgusting, stinky archaeologists in their hi. Vis vests, so we'll put them in, like, a back garden somewhere. And then after that, they were like, actually, maybe people do want to see archaeology being done. It's quite cool. And so they put them in a Place where they knew it would be more interesting because it's where they invented the smallpox vaccine. So they knew that there would be smallpox bodies somewhere, so they dug it up.

[Jordan Myra]

It's a bunch of dead corpses.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

Still meat on them.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, no.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But still dangerous. Cause smallpox is so infectious.

[Jordan Myra]

That's my question.

[Siobhan Thompson]

That they had to be wearing, like, hazmat suits as they were digging.

[Jordan Myra]

Did anyone get it, or did they catch it where they like?

[Siobhan Thompson]

No.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But very dangerous. Cause we eliminated smallpox.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

So for now. For now. Hey, the way things are going, it could come back.

[Jordan Myra]

For now.

[Siobhan Thompson]

The RFK Jr. God.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, that's fascinating.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah. A huge derailment from the crux of the episode. But I think it was really important.

[Kendall Landrin]

I want to know, because I think it's like, you've done so much.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

Do you think part of that is because you're single? Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And, like, I've been not single for chunks of my life, but I've always prioritized doing interesting things over dating boring people. And I think that that's why I've lived so many lives.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, but you think single better than in a relationship?

[Siobhan Thompson]

I think that there are relationships that are better than being single.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But I think that most people are in relationships as a crutch, and they are not really having a good time.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I look around at my friends and go, do you like that person?

[Kendall Landrin]

Isn't that just a roster of people

[Jordan Myra]

running through my mind of the people we know? I'm like, hmm.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Are you like that person, or is this, like, a convenient. Yeah, listen, I can't. Not convenience. I love a convenient thing. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Well, there's things. Jordan does my laundry.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Sure. But you two seem, like, pretty well adjusted in that you like each other, and frankly, that is not true. A lot of people that I ever met in my life, like, this is not my friendship group. This is. I look around the world and go, well, you seem pretty miserable in the situation that you're in, and you seem to have just gotten yourself financially entangled with this person.

[Jordan Myra]

You know what I'll say, though? I think a lot of people. And I think this is bad, and I don't think you should do it. I think a lot of people are miserable alone, too.

[Siobhan Thompson]

That is true. I think that a lot of people are just miserable, and I think they

[Jordan Myra]

need to stop because not.

[Kendall Landrin]

Not the pointing to the camera. You need to stop. Stop.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Cheer up. Smile more. Okay.

[Jordan Myra]

You know what, Austin? I do feel that way a little bit, because I think there are. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people have really bad lives. Really bad stuff happened.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

I'm not talking to those people.

[Kendall Landrin]

That's never who it is though.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Those people are always like, well, you gotta lie.

[Jordan Myra]

Those people are fine. Those people are. There's always people where like things are fine, whatever, but they're just like miserable. They don't, they either don't know how to be happy or. I think deep down a lot of people don't want to be happy. I think sometimes being sad or they

[Siobhan Thompson]

deprioritize happiness because it feels, I think happiness to me feels very ephemeral and difficult to chase. But I'm a big advocate for joy and joy. You can get anywhere. Anywhere.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Go to the movies.

[Jordan Myra]

Joy.

[Kendall Landrin]

Exactly.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Hang out with your friends, joy. And like those little moments of joy add up to happiness, I think. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

What makes that different than happiness? Why can't you just replace the word joy with happiness?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Because happiness, I think is an overall state of being and joy is a moment. Right. But it's, it's that. It's sort of a bird by bird situation, but with your mood.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. Whereas like I think that people go, I want to be happy. And look at what it takes to be happy and feel overwhelmed.

[Jordan Myra]

Because that makes sense.

[Siobhan Thompson]

What does it take to be happy? You know, I, I'm in a fulfilling relationship. I have 2.4 children. I'm in a house that I own. I'm in a job that I love. I have fulfilling friendships.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Like all of those things feel like if you don't have any of those things, an insurmountable mountain, A lot of pressure to be. And a lot of pressure to be happy. You know, there's a reason why it's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, that's true.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Lawyers. But I think that joy is very attainable.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And joy can, can be expensive, but it can also be free.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I, I do think weirdly a lot of this stuff is tied to, into capitalism. Sorry, sorry to pull everything back to you, but you know, like it's much easier to be happy when you know that your rent is paid and your fridge is full.

[Kendall Landrin]

Of course.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But also how joyful when you can't pay your rent and your fridge is empty, but you buy yourself a little treat.

[Jordan Myra]

Huge.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Huge.

[Jordan Myra]

We've all been there. And it feels really good.

[Kendall Landrin]

The high.

[Siobhan Thompson]

That high feels really good. It's like, fuck it, I'm not going to be able to pay my rent either way. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Treat. Dude, I'm getting a chip.

[Jordan Myra]

Oh, it feels really good.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Chip witches are great.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

So you have decided for right now you're choosing to be single.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And like that, if an offer comes my way, that is undeniable.

[Kendall Landrin]

You're checking your emails.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I'm checking my emails. I'm certainly not on the apps. The apps, fully useless to me. Just makes me want to kill myself. The antithesis of joy. But I just feel like I'm in a sort of what have you done for me lately? Attitude towards relationships where I'm like, if you're not additive to my life, I don't need it. And my life is pretty fucking good.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

So, you know, I'm open to making my life better always. And if that includes a relationship, great. But if it, it, if it's somebody coming over and then not doing the dishes and then asking me to make them a sandwich because I do it so good, I'm simply not interested.

[Kendall Landrin]

But if you're so good at making sandwiches, I think that might be so good at making sandwiches. Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well. But I don't think I am good at making. I think everybody's good at making sandwiches. I think making a sandwich is one of the easiest things because you can do it. I almost sort of think that like a three year old could make a pretty possible sandw. Sure. You know.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, it's true.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It feels like a real skill, but

[Jordan Myra]

I think it's kind of not supposed

[Kendall Landrin]

to are easy because sometimes they might

[Jordan Myra]

be hard to suck with us recently. Anytime anyone says anything is easy, Kendall's like, well, you know, you shouldn't say things are easy.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Because we're dyslexic.

[Jordan Myra]

You know, things are easy for different people.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

If you give him a cookie was

[Kendall Landrin]

a sixth grade read for me. So I understand that.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Sure. And like, I, I also understand, like, if I'm good at something and I do it great, and then if they're good at something and they do it great.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Why am I doing your laundry? Do you know what I mean? Like, I, I don't want to do. I don't want. I already have enough chores. I'm, I'm, I'm at peak chore.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. I, I don't want to do the chores that I have.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right. Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I have found, especially in dating men, that that is what it becomes. And there's suddenly an expectation of this sort of patriarchal bullshit. Even, Even with men who were like, woke.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, because it's like, that's what's nice with being lesbians. I think there is this, like, at the beginning, you're like, okay, what are we each good at? Like, you really do everything based off like, well, Kendall specifically likes or is better at this, and Jordan's better at this, and it all kind of evens out. And I think with even, like, yeah. The wokest men.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Or even. I don't know how I would be in a straight relationship. I've never been in one. But you just fall into these things that just like, yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I see a lot of straight women being like, he was a project. It's like, I don't. I would rather learn to sew. I don't need to make a man human.

[Jordan Myra]

Absolutely.

[Siobhan Thompson]

He can be his own project. Why am I doing your homework for you? Yes. Like, I don't understand, like, I as a kid who did a lot of other kids homework.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't. I'm a grown up.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't need to do that no more.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Or you could do a project that benefits you and then date a man that's already done. And you say, now I get to be good at sewing.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Exactly. But unfortunately, none of the men are done. Or at least the ones that are available. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

I'm curious, John. Were you a project when you met your wife? Did she have to fix you or were you already cooked?

[Kendall Landrin]

I was. I was a project for sure.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay. And why were you such a piece of? What was going with that?

[Kendall Landrin]

I just. I didn't grow up with many women in my life, just my mom. So I just didn't know things.

[Jordan Myra]

Just your mom.

[Kendall Landrin]

And I was spoiled. I was definitely spoiled.

[Jordan Myra]

You were mommy's baby.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Okay.

[Jordan Myra]

I don't know if mommy's baby.

[Kendall Landrin]

Mommy's baby.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. See, I feel like I got. I got started in the kitchen as like a three year old. Same. They're like. And now you stir the pot and now. Oh, Oh, I need. Can you whisk these eggs for me? Oh, good job. You know, and I don't have time to do that to an adult person.

[Kendall Landrin]

No.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, you know what's also easier for us is that even when a woman is mommy's baby, it's still not as upsetting because Kendall's mommy's baby. Kendall is mommy's baby.

[Kendall Landrin]

Big. Good. Of course, I'm the youngest child and I'm super cute and small, and my

[Siobhan Thompson]

mom thinks I'm precious 10 foot tall.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, I'm not. I'm so. I've said this before. It's actually sick because I think a lot of people were tall.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I'm 5 7. But I have the attitude of a very tall person because I grew really early. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

I was maybe 5, 6, 57 in the. Maybe first grade. I was huge. So now I'll see like WNBA players and I'm like, this the same.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Because you. It really.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. I was like, I was this height when I was like 9, 10 years old.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And then everybody caught up with me and. And now how. 5, 7 is a very normal height to be.

[Jordan Myra]

It's confusing because when you're little.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

People will come up to you at school and they'll be like, excuse me, miss, I want to talk about my child's grade. And you're like, I'm.

[Grow Therapy Announcer]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Or a teacher comes up to you and they're like 4 11. You're like, why are you telling me what to do?

[Jordan Myra]

Yes. You push them to the ground.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

Then you go to the principal's office.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I went to an all girls school for a little while that was. I got bullied out of. But it was a very mean school generally to the point where a lot of the teachers got bullied out of it, which I was not involved in.

[Kendall Landrin]

Why were they just rich kids?

[Jordan Myra]

What was the problem?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, it was rich kids, but it was also. They weren't like super rich kids. This is the cheapest private school that you could go to. So this is like a doctor that works at the nhs. So it's a doctor, but it's like not.

[Kendall Landrin]

They're not like person.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's not like everybody's parents had jobs.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And in England there's a national curriculum.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Which means that everybody gets taught the same thing at the same age. There's no skipping grades. You're not allowed to because statistically then you're not counted for the school's records.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's a lot of like standardized testing in the uk. So this is a school that you had to test to get into. So everybody was very smart and very bored by the stuff that we were being taught. And there was also like a lot of like English schools generally are very. There's a lot of discipline shit. Which just makes you naughtier.

[Jordan Myra]

Sure.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Because there's a lot of uniform coding, a lot of like.

[Kendall Landrin]

So everything just gets evened out. A lot of like getting in trouble.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Anyways, ladies, we don't sit with our legs crossed. We let. We cross our ankles and we sit up right. Like this. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

So do you think you just get desensitized to getting in trouble? Because like, I feel like, when I would get in trouble, it was like, well, I get in trouble, like, once every three years, and it's, like, worst moment of my life.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes, well, and also, you get a lot of social kudos for being mean to a teacher in a way that, like, truly, like, three teachers a year would be out on, like, full menti bees.

[Jordan Myra]

Oh, I can.

[Siobhan Thompson]

In a school of, like, 500 kids, 11 to 18. So this is a small school.

[Jordan Myra]

That's so crazy. I got detention one time when I was in high school.

[Kendall Landrin]

For what?

[Jordan Myra]

I did a lot of bad stuff, but I was still good, if that makes sense. I was doing bad stuff.

[Kendall Landrin]

They didn't find out about it, but

[Jordan Myra]

nobody was finding out.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And it. I seemed so innocent that I was not in trouble ever, really. I got detention once, and it was a lunchtime detention.

[Jordan Myra]

Yes. I got good grades. I was doing things that I wasn't supposed to be doing, but I wasn't hurting anybody and, you know, whatever.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I was, like, chatty in class and, like, fun to be around. Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

But I did get detention because we had a substitute teacher and her name was Ms. Duran, and I asked her if she was hungry like the wolf. This is my freshman year old.

[Kendall Landrin]

And she didn't like that.

[Jordan Myra]

No. I thought it was so cute and funny. I thought she would be so charmed by the fact that I knew that song because I was 14 years old. And she looked me dead in the eyes and she immediately went, detention, not a burger. I was like, how many times has she heard that? Is everyone doing that joke?

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't know. My mom is called Jude, and for the first, like, eight years of her life, that was a normal name to have. And then hey Jude came out and everybody.

[Jordan Myra]

Oh, in England especially.

[Kendall Landrin]

I can't even imagine, man, every single

[Siobhan Thompson]

person for the rest of her life when they meet her, goes, hey, Jude.

[Kendall Landrin]

I mean, I knew there was a girl I went to acting camp with named Jolene.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, that's tough.

[Kendall Landrin]

And she. I remember it was like a kid at the camp said something about the song Jolene, and she literally was like, don't.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I truly think it's one of the most evil thing that you can do is to write a really popular song with somebody's name in it.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, and they named their kid that after Jolene came out.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, probably after that.

[Jordan Myra]

I feel like that's so. I'm, like, jealous of that. I'm like my best friend's twin sister. Her name is Caroline.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, yes. Sweet Caroline.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, not. I'm sure that because People are just going.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But everywhere she goes.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, whenever she enters a room.

[Jordan Myra]

Because when we were all in like middle school, early high school, whatever. Is when Speaker Box Love Below Outcast album came out, which had some roses on it. And that song has lines like, Caroline, she's the reason for the word. And that song is all about this girl named Caroline being mean and she hated it. And I'm like, to me, that's so cool.

[Siobhan Thompson]

So cool.

[Jordan Myra]

I would have done anything to have my name be Caroline in high school so I could be like, this outkast song is about me.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Wow.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, I feel like the worst is if you were a mom that named their daughter Stacy.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

And then Stacy's mom came out.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

And you weren't hot if you were hot. Felt cool if you were really not hot.

[Siobhan Thompson]

There's not a single song written about a man, though. I mean, I guess. Hey, Judy.

[Kendall Landrin]

Technically, maybe that's like the only one.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I mean, sure.

[Jordan Myra]

Still singing about his girl, right?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. And also name. That's like girl's name.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because even I'm like, I was thinking like, isn't there one called A boy named Sue? But that's about a girl's name.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, wait, wait, wait. We have to find one that must.

[Siobhan Thompson]

A boy.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, Jude. Jude.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Jude is. But also Jude is gender neutral.

[Jordan Myra]

Gender neutral. There I'm like, there's gotta be like.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, I. I truly wait.

[Kendall Landrin]

I feel so crazy.

[Jordan Myra]

Wait, hold on. I'm looking it up. Because I can't think of one single one.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I can't think of a single one with men's. That mention men's names song with men.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, what about like Mickey, you're so fine.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Okay, okay, There we go. But they do a lot about a mouse, not a man. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay. Yeah. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse theme song. That's perfect.

[Jordan Myra]

We have a couple. So Dion Warwick. Dionne Warwick and also Lily Allen both have songs called Alfie.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They're not as like, they don't love songs. Well, Alfie. Lily Allen's Alfie is not. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Yes. I don't know.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't know about the.

[Jordan Myra]

Dion Woolwick Alejandro by Lady Gaga assumes that's about a gay guy, which is a little different. Michael Jackson's song Ben from the movie Ben.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Ben.

[Kendall Landrin]

That's one of my favorite songs of all time.

[Jordan Myra]

I didn't know this song either. And Kendall and I were at my parents house and maybe Kendall made a joke about it or I d. Made a joke about it and I was like, I Don't know what this is. And Kendall and my parents just. Oh, they laughed and I'm so stupid. They couldn't believe I had never seen the movie Ben, about a little boy and his is friend Mouse, that has a song written for the movie called Ben. The song's called Ben by Michael Jackson. They were like, one of my favorite

[Kendall Landrin]

songs of all time.

[Siobhan Thompson]

No, I feel crazy because I feel like I should have heard about this, that I have never heard of this.

[Kendall Landrin]

Really good. But none of these are, I will say, are like, as famous as any of the, like. Yeah, I mean, the. The female songs we're naming are like iconic songs.

[Jordan Myra]

Ziggy Stardust.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, but that's like a character. More than. Like, there are kids named Ziggy now. But it's because they're named after the song and they all live in Silver Lake.

[Jordan Myra]

Clint Eastwood by the Gorillaz. It's about a famous.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, yeah. I guess. Song, but that's also his full name.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Your kid's actor named Clint Eastwood.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And also, I don't think that they say Clint Eastwood in the song Clint Eastwood. I think it's just called that.

[Jordan Myra]

Jack and Diane by John Mellencamp. So you got got, you know.

[Kendall Landrin]

But that's true. They've had.

[Jordan Myra]

But These are also Mr. Jones by counting Crows.

[Kendall Landrin]

But that's.

[Siobhan Thompson]

That's wrong.

[Jordan Myra]

That's wrong.

[Kendall Landrin]

What about Mr. Brightside?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Jordan Myra]

He's singing about the woman.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, right.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well. And also, you're not gonna meet somebody called Mr. Brightside. I don't think that's a real name. Yesterday. Fernando. Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

What one?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Hear the drums, Fernando.

[Jordan Myra]

That's a famous one.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, but I would do that. That, I think, is the only one where if I met somebody called Fernando, I would go, do you hear the drums? I wouldn't, but I would. In my brain, it'd be like, say it.

[Kendall Landrin]

You say it.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Say it. Okay.

[Jordan Myra]

All right. Well, we found a couple. But you're right. Most songs are about women, as they

[Siobhan Thompson]

should be, and saying the name of the woman over and over and over again.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah. Because they're obsessed with us.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They're obsessed with us.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, let's get into some questions from our fans. We asked them what they wanted to know or what their thoughts were on choosing to be single. And this is what people had to say.

[Kendall Landrin]

If you were like, what the heck? Why didn't I get to ask a question? It's because you're not following us on Instagram or you don't know our email. Either way, wake up. Our email is hwhlpod questionsgmail.com. you can email if you have a long question or a tale you'd like to tell us. And we read them and go through them all the time. Even if it's just an offhand question that you think of in the shower, you can send it and we'll. We'll read it during Q A's or on our Instagram. We post questions all the time.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Time.

[Kendall Landrin]

Or on our Patreon. We post questions all the time.

[Jordan Myra]

Thank you, Handle.

[Kendall Landrin]

We used to have to cut before every time I did it.

[Jordan Myra]

Look it up.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah, because you're dyslexic. You're like, h, L W. L W.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, but I. Because I really agree with you. So many people, I think. Sorry, I never. We try to be like, this is not a gay podcast. Not a gay podcast. Straight people you can listen to. This podcast is for everyone.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Incorrect. They. They hosed me down when we.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Get that stank of.

[Jordan Myra]

On you.

[Kendall Landrin]

Like the. Like the. We had Hazmat suits on. Like, we were out, like, the small pocket. But I feel like we do drag the straight people up. But I do meet a lot of straight couples, especially when you're not in the city. You know what I mean?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, boy. Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

And it really gets marriage. I've never even.

[Siobhan Thompson]

There is, like, an epicenter of the city where it's like, it's still bad because they're in open relationships that one of them doesn't want. And they're sort of miserable and sad about it. Both of them. Somehow, both of them are sad about it, even though one of them does seem to want it every hour in the room. But then sad about it.

[Kendall Landrin]

It's horrible.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And then the further out you get, the more like, well, you know, he. He was the. The third hottest guy in my older brother's friendship group.

[Kendall Landrin]

And you just have to.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, I really realize that whenever we do those card games for couples, like, let's do this fun date night. Oh, it'll be so fun. We'll do this little couples card. It's like quizzing each other. And we'll be like, what did your partner go to school for? How would I not know this? And the back of it is like, you think you know your wife. Guess again.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Guess again.

[Kendall Landrin]

And I'm like, these couples are not speaking to each other.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They don't like each other. They're not interested in each other's lives.

[Jordan Myra]

It's really scary.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's just convenience. And frankly, for the women, almost never Very convenient.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, so inconvenient. In fact, I think a lot of them are just like, I'll pop out some kids and then I've gotten that and then I can deal with the marriage later.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's just entropy because a lot of them don't even want those kids.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right.

[Jordan Myra]

I know that's right.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, truly. But we always say what it is. My best friend Nicole and I talk about this all the time where it's like, there's so many exciting things. A lot of these people don't have a ton of exciting things.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

And so then when you, you get engaged, you're like, wait, this is exciting. Everyone's looking at me and paying attention and posting pictures of me. What's happening?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right.

[Kendall Landrin]

Then you like, rush to the marriage because you're like, I want to get that high again.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right.

[Kendall Landrin]

And then after you marriage, like, no one's looking at me, I guess I'll have a kid. And then it becomes, well, every time I have a kid, I get attention.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

And not in an you're an attention whore way. In a way of like, people don't look at women. And a lot of these women are so invisible to society.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right.

[Kendall Landrin]

They're like desperate for someone to look at them and then they just keep having. But I'm also like, babies.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Instead of getting attention from having a baby, why don't you burn down a bank?

[Kendall Landrin]

Right?

[Siobhan Thompson]

You know, like, have you ever thought about it? Should I get pregnant or should I burn down a bank? Like, then you get a free place to live. Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

They feed you. You don't have to worry about.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You don't have to cook ever again. You don't have to pick out your clothes.

[Jordan Myra]

I don't think if you burn it

[Kendall Landrin]

down, you're not there place to live maybe.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Honestly, I think jail for some of these women would be a relaxing stay.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, that's like women who go. I mean there, there's so many of like a trope of like women getting hospitalized and like begging to stay because they have three kids at home and their husband is like banging on the hospital door being like, what size diaper is our truly.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. The hardest thing about my birth was having my husband find a place to sleep.

[Kendall Landrin]

Although I always feel bad. The only thing I feel bad for is when people make fun of, of men for fainting during birth. Because I know that would be me.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh yeah, that would absolutely be me. I mean, I'm. I love to faint. I'm a big faint, big fainter. I feel. Because you also have lupus. Right. I have celiac disease.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh my God.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But I think that all the autoimmune diseases just exhibit differently. There's a lot of weird cluster things around. If you have adhd, just like, are you left handed?

[Kendall Landrin]

No. Not smart enough for that.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It is a.

[Kendall Landrin]

Isn't that a thing? It looks like people are smarter.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, I think that it's. It's a different type of smuts.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay. It's the helpful smart.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, it's the one that's real. You have. Yeah, you have the gay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I definitely would. Yeah. I was in top tier science and half the class were left handed because when we had.

[Kendall Landrin]

I didn't say gay, I said gate. We always have this gate.

[Jordan Myra]

I think we're like, I'm the gate. You're the smart kind of smart. I'm the gay kind of smart. Yeah, sure.

[Kendall Landrin]

I'm the type of smart that every time anyone talks about being smart, people go, well, you're a different type of smart. You're smart in different ways. I'm like, shut up.

[Jordan Myra]

We haven't figured out what it is yet, but no, it's different.

[Siobhan Thompson]

We're doing the subject science and we're trying to figure it out.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, but we had gate. I'm sure like the UK had a version of this, but like we had gate kids where it was like, you're basically smarter. And I.

[Siobhan Thompson]

They did away with talented.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes. And they did away with it, I think, I'm pretty sure, because it was a nightmare. And also all those kids ended up like not even going to college because they were so.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh yeah, I got, I was very burnt out. I almost didn't go to college. I almost dropped out of high school. I mean, I did for a year drop out of high school.

[Kendall Landrin]

Okay.

[Siobhan Thompson]

So that's cool.

[Jordan Myra]

That's cool.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It was again, I quit things that I don't like.

[Jordan Myra]

That's really brave.

[Kendall Landrin]

There's nothing harder than I, I, it's.

[Siobhan Thompson]

To this day, it was so hot and I was so miserable and like, I just was so tired all the time.

[Kendall Landrin]

You're going hungry.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. Because I was also. I mean I was also. I didn't want to be there. And then I just would like disappear into books at night and then read until 6 in the morning and then not be able to do my schoolwork properly. But it was because I was dissociating from my miserable existence.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, I remember. That's why I'm like, if I ever have a kid, I'm gonna be so easy on them in high school. Because I'm be gonna be like, what you're doing now? There's nothing harder. In high school, I was up the hottest thing 4:30 to do. First of all, beat to the Gods. I'm like, doing more. I'm doing. I'm doing foundation that covers tattoos on my face at 5am yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Full, like complicated eyeliner.

[Jordan Myra]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

I'm up at 4am for a student council at 6:30. 7:30 comes around, we're getting in the pool. PE takes place in the pool.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

You're soaking wet.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Your makeup is dripping off your face.

[Kendall Landrin]

Of your face. You have acne and it's dry and you're soaking wet.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You stink of chlorine. Because getting in the showers is gay.

[Kendall Landrin]

Straight into a test on chemistry. Like, yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

It's so hard right after school.

[Kendall Landrin]

You're there till 6:30 doing, like, it just goes on and on. And then you get home and you have to read Genghis Khan.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right. Write an essay on Emma.

[Jordan Myra]

As we all know, the only book that Kendall read in high school.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, I didn't. None of this has heard.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I didn't have.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, okay.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. It's the book that made me. I tried to do AP World history. It's the only AP class I ever tried. Take AP World History, they said, read genus con. Over the summer, I read the first 10 pages, I sobbed to my mother, I said, th. This is unreadable. Unreadable. And so I dropped out of it.

[Jordan Myra]

But Kendall's always like, you know, when you read Genus Khan in high school, I'm like, I don't think that's the name of a book. I think it's a book about genus Khan.

[Kendall Landrin]

I'm pretty sure Genghis Khan. I always. You know, it's funny. I always want to go call it Genghis Khan and full frontal snogging. Genus and full frontal Sning.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, you're pandering.

[Kendall Landrin]

I know. What are you, British?

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, we gotta answer some questions.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Great.

[Jordan Myra]

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[Siobhan Thompson]

I. I don't know why you're pandering to your relatives.

[Jordan Myra]

I agree.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I sort of don't think it's any of their business.

[Jordan Myra]

I agree. I think you can just be like, I mean, you know me, I'm a proponent of being rude. So I would be like, well, they're being rude.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

That's how I feel, frankly.

[Kendall Landrin]

They're being rude and they're unhappy.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. And they want to drag you back into the crab bucket.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yep.

[Jordan Myra]

I was gonna say I would just probably be like, well, Aunt Terry, you and Uncle Michael aren't making it look too tempting, so I'm fine here for right now. That's what I personally would do.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, we were talking about this the other day at dinner. We were like, I think one of the best. Both Jordan and I have great. We have great relationships with other parents.

[Jordan Myra]

Parents.

[Kendall Landrin]

But with our parents. But we don't. We never really have done stuff to big decisions to please them. We've never been like, okay, I'm gonna go to this college because my mom really wants me to.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Like, I think there's been a lot of things I've done in my life that my mom probably is like, I don't know if I would do that, but go ahead. I guess we've never done that. And I see people that are 30 years old.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. They're still living their parents dreams.

[Kendall Landrin]

Exactly. And I'm like, I feel like we've been able to go so much Farther by At 18, both of us being like, well, we're gonna do what we want to do.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

And it is so crazy to me when I talk to a 28, 35 year old, it's like, well, I don't do this because, you know, my mom just isn't gonna. And I'm like, that is it crazy to me.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I was even like doing tours of universities and people would have their parents with them and I'd be like, your mommy is choosing where you're going.

[Kendall Landrin]

But they are. Yes, they're going. I mean, some people do their full careers is. It's just for their.

[Jordan Myra]

It's wild.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. Crazy. Live your life. Live moss.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Life is for the living, and you're living and you have to live it. So if they want to be in a relationship, that's great. It's nothing to do with you.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

And disappointing your parents is never as bad as you picture it being. You know, it's like, definitely not worth. I think if you experience disappointing your parents and then you experienced 30 years of doing a career or being in a relationship you don't want to be in.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right.

[Kendall Landrin]

You would actually be like, oh, it's such an obvious choice to disappoint my parents. But the thought of it is so like, oh, I can't.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I'm also like, why are your parents. Because I feel like so much of this is also like your parents wanting grandchildren. And I'm like, if you want to help raise young children, there are other ways of doing it than forcing somebody else to have a baby. To have a baby.

[Kendall Landrin]

I know. Go foster a kid.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Go foster a kid. Go volunteer at an elementary school. Go read them stories every year. That's like a thing that you can go and do today.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Like, this is not. Go do a big brother, big sister situation.

[Jordan Myra]

And science is getting better every day. What's to stop you, a 68 year old woman, from having a baby?

[Siobhan Thompson]

My mom did it. My mom has 68. No. But I have two adopted little brothers, the youngest of one of which is 10.

[Kendall Landrin]

Oh, wow.

[Jordan Myra]

Little.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

So why not do it? Get out there. I also think a nicer version of my initial response is you can just be like, oh, I'm really happy, so I'm not worried about it.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

And then kind of move on to something else. Put a big deviled egg in your mouth and then walk out of the room. I'm assuming you're at a family event while you're talking to your family. How can your coupled friends support you?

[Siobhan Thompson]

This I do find very frustrating because I find a lot of my couple friends to be a closed unit. And as sexually speaking, you're finding, no, my couple friends are not close units, sexually speaking. That is also something I'm so Wildly uninterested in becoming a third wheel. Oh, and I have a relationship also. I have no. Like, if I want to be in a relationship, I want to be in a relationship. I don't want this wishy washy mid point. Like. Like, I. Oh, the worst thing about not being in a relationship, which is going out and finding somebody. You want to add this on top of the worst things about being in a relationship, which, again, is doing other people's chores. Like, I. No interest in that whatsoever. But I find. And especially again, in straight relationships, but this happens with my gay friends as well, is like, as soon as they get into a relationship with somebody, they prioritize that person over to the exclusion of everything else. I'm not saying they shouldn't prioritize them, but, you know, sometimes I'd be like, hey, I feel like I'm doing a lot of help for you, and I'm being a villager in the village.

[Kendall Landrin]

Right.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And they are not.

[Kendall Landrin]

Not right.

[Jordan Myra]

Right.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I don't have an answer to this, except for sometimes I feel like I have to explicitly ask for help in a way that I don't expect my friends to.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Which is tough. And it's a little humiliating that it is the worst part of being single.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

But, hey, I'm moving next month, so. Because I'm not gonna. I also just pay for people to do that. I. Yeah, but that's a. That's a privilege. Privileged position.

[Kendall Landrin]

No, I mean, but I think it's true where it's like, there. There's even. Because I think people are like, well, this person's a priority. And I'm like, yeah. Priority, though, is like, when we even talk about this with our jobs. Because it's like, of course I would be like, well, I prioritize Jordan over my job. But then also, like, there's a difference between, like, Jordan and I have a casual date night and I booked a big job.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Right.

[Kendall Landrin]

Obviously, that's gonna be the priority. Like, I think there's things where I'm like, yeah, but Jordan always doesn't. Doesn't always need me to have them be my priority at this moment. Like, they're good on their own.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You don't need your handheld hospital.

[Kendall Landrin]

I'm like, of course I'm not gonna be like, well, I. I have a podcast party. But it's just like, sometimes I think being a good partner is being like, I'm good. You go on and do your thing.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. It's a marathon and not a sprint.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You know, it. It. It's understanding that. That you live in a society. And I think that American society, I find especially, like, much more than England is focused around the couple and the family unit. And even in like, the sort of woo, woo leftist circles that I'm in, it's sort of difficult to break people out of that.

[Jordan Myra]

I think we're so accustomed to it. I think it's very Christian.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And also very suburban.

[Jordan Myra]

I think it's very suburban. I also think it's very, you know, to go back to capitalism. I think because of the way things are set up, we don't have universal health care. We don't have these things where, like, there are other community or government mental structures in place to take care of you.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, I think child care. Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

I think the government, like, intentionally does.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

That.

[Jordan Myra]

So we are more like stranded at sea. So it's easier. And we all have to work so much. It's easier. Like, okay, I'm gonna grab onto one person rather than grabbing onto 10 people.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Because that community is just not baked into America as. As much as it is. Well.

[Kendall Landrin]

And because there's such little help, it gets really, like. I mean, I feel like people like, well, once you have a kid.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

You got the go ahead to never speak to me again. Like, I feel like we have with our friends with kids, we're like, we gotta. We gotta go whole hog with being to infiltrate that.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

Because it's, like, expected. Well, once you have a kid, that's it. Because I think Lily all the time,

[Jordan Myra]

I say, your son's not more important than me.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I tell her that too. And I'm glad that we're both working on this together.

[Jordan Myra]

Everyone's.

[Siobhan Thompson]

She's just very clear to her. And actually, Lily likes that kind of direct conversation.

[Kendall Landrin]

Lily's been one of the only people I know that it's like, I don't think. I mean, of course things change, but she is so similar to how she was before she was a kid. She's still calling, being like, hello, come over. I'm coming over. My son and I are coming over.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes, I do sometimes find. Here's what I sometimes find frustrating about my friends with kids is that they complain about being tired, as if they didn't know that that was gonna happen.

[Jordan Myra]

Or I'm like, you've never been tied?

[Siobhan Thompson]

As if I've never been tired. And also, I didn't go, oh, that's seems like makes people really tired. I don't want to do that. I feel like I'm already pretty tired. All the time from my body being not good at working.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, it's like when you work with someone, you have a co worker who's training for a marathon.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

And then they're really mean to you. And I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe you

[Siobhan Thompson]

should eat more than glucose packets every day.

[Jordan Myra]

Stop running around. No one's chasing you. My mom will say this too, about working. My mom works at a hospital. She's nice. You nurse. And she's like, the people that smoke cigarettes. Mm. These people are getting 15, 10 to 15 minute breaks 30 times.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Because my dad was also a she. He was a anesthesiology tech and sometimes worked in the icu. And again was like, so annoyed. I mean, my dad has always hated smoking but, like, got very mad about, like, we're in the middle of a operation and somebody gets to go, bye.

[Jordan Myra]

They come back, smell like stinking.

[Siobhan Thompson]

My mom's like breathing smoke into somebody's open wound.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

My mom was like, I do not get to go to the bathroom most days. My mom is working from like, my mom's, I'm sure supposed to work from 7 to 7. My mom's leaving the house at 5:30 and coming home at 11 o' clock

[Siobhan Thompson]

at night, like, and probably sitting in her car dissociating after work, as she should, because it's a horrific job.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

You guys have seen the pit. That's er. But it's like similar enough.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. It's just like she's seeing people die every day.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

And my mom's like, I can't go to the bathroom, I can't eat lunch. But people are going out five times a day to smoke a cigarette. It's crazy. But so I feel like there are these things where people are like, yeah, but I get a little more. And I love my friends with children. I get. I'm not one of those people who like, it's like, well, I expect everything to be child free. I love children.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I love children. I love being an auntie to my friends kids. I love bringing them little presents.

[Kendall Landrin]

But I also, I'm like, yeah, bring them to dinner. I'm good with them anyway.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. I mean, again, having grown up in Britain where I was like, at the pub as a child and that's very normal. I'm like, why are you having a sitter? Why can't you. Why can't you bring your child to dinner? You have to teach your child how to eat dinner properly. How are they going to learn that?

[Kendall Landrin]

We all have to go ding, ding. And then that's the problem. Then you do go out to dinner with them, and they're like, they've never sat at a table before.

[Siobhan Thompson]

What do you mean? And they're not sitting at a table in your house?

[Kendall Landrin]

No, they're not.

[Siobhan Thompson]

No.

[Jordan Myra]

No. I think some of these people, their kids are not sitting at a table. No.

[Kendall Landrin]

They've got those silicone mats with the things, and it's right in front of the tv. And it's the same. I mean, it's really. It's quite bad. But that's part of why I told Jerin the other day. I mean, we eat dinner at the table once every year and a half. No, on Thanksgiving, we see it at the table. So I have no idea. But I'm like, once you have a kid, I'm like, then I would have to be like, well, every night we

[Siobhan Thompson]

sit at the table, I'm making lasagna and we're sitting at the table.

[Kendall Landrin]

We can't have Jersey, Mike.

[Siobhan Thompson]

We have to eat your broccoli on

[Kendall Landrin]

the couch every night. I mean, that is a real lifestyle change for me because I don't eat at the table.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Again, same. I'm like, I don't. I don't wanna. I love to have people over and eat at the table, but if I'm on my own, I'm making a meal for myself. I'm watching tv, I'm sitting on the couch and eating my bolognese on the couch. Like, that's whenever I'm more comfortable at

[Kendall Landrin]

the table by myself and eat a meal, I feel so cinematic. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Like, when you sit at the table by yourself and eat a meal, you're like, I'm in. I just feel like I'm in a rom com. It's the. Before I've met. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Myra]

I feel like I'm at, like, in a Regency piece. Like, I'm in Bridgerton and I'm sitting at one of those big, long tables.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

Eating like.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, you famously have a very long table. Just like one of you sits at one end and one of you pass the soul.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

What did you say? I said, pass the soul.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay. This person wants to know if there's a way to word talking about being intentionally single so people stop looking at them like they're so sad.

[Siobhan Thompson]

That's a really good question. And I think that you have to. I don't have an answer to this. I think that you just have to not care because the. The reality is that they're miserable and you're not. Do you know what I mean?

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Like, the people who are most judgmental about it are in the worst relationships I've ever seen. And the people who are in happy relationships are like, that's great.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Well, because I think that people are in happy relationships, there's probably way more overlap. Where I think Jordan and I. It was important to me. Where it was like, I think near the beginning of our relationship, when I was younger, it was easier to be like, Jordan hates when I say this. Cause it sounds rude, but it was easier to be like, if Jordan broke up with me, I don't know what I'd do. And then as I've therapied myself intentionally

[Siobhan Thompson]

and your hormones balance out a little bit and you're not crying over every little thing.

[Kendall Landrin]

Exactly. And I've gotten my own hobbies and my Intentionally.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. And your own friendship groups.

[Kendall Landrin]

I go, well, if Jordan and I broke up, I'd be very sad because I'd miss Jordan, but I wouldn'. I don't have this all encompassed panic of like, I don't know what I would do. And I think that is like, we do so much separate. It's like, yes, Jordan has hobby. Jordan does drums. And Jordan does Spanish lessons, and I do my, you know, horseback riding.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, I think that this is a big part of it is that a lot of people in relationships, their hobby is the relationship, and their friendship group is built into the relationship. And if they break up, the whole friendship friendship group collapses.

[Jordan Myra]

It's no good.

[Kendall Landrin]

And the lesbian community really struggles with.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Well, yes, but they're. Everybody is. They're also friends with their exes. Unless I think that's fake.

[Jordan Myra]

We talk about that a lot. I think that's fake a lot.

[Kendall Landrin]

Being friends with your exes.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, I think some lesbians are doing it, but I also think there's this weird pressure in the gay community to get over it.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Where sometimes it's like, but she cheated on me, so why am I. Why am I forced to be friends

[Kendall Landrin]

with that girl that now I'm at a dinner with?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Jordan Myra]

And also, sometimes you weren't friends before, so, like, why do you need to be friends? Like, sometimes you date someone and then you're like, oh, we didn't vibe. I don't want to always also have to be like, we didn't vibe, but now I have to be friends with you. Yeah, no, thank you.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Agree.

[Jordan Myra]

Okay, we have time for one more question. We got a lot of these. And this is just. I want. I want us all to Be pitching ideas.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Great.

[Jordan Myra]

People want to know they're horny.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Okay.

[Jordan Myra]

But they like being single.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah.

[Jordan Myra]

What are they doing? How are they getting their rocks off? Where are they meeting people? Why do you seem confused?

[Kendall Landrin]

I just feel like it's so.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You leave your house.

[Kendall Landrin]

You've got to leave your house.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You have to leave your house.

[Kendall Landrin]

You go. You go to a dance party.

[Siobhan Thompson]

You go to a dance. Dance party. You go to a bar. You go to a trivia night. You leave your house.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. You have to leave your house. And I think if you really are like, no, I have to have sex. Because I guess there's a world where you go to a bar and it's just not the vibe. It's not. No.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Get better at masturbating. I don't know what to tell you.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well. And can I tell you not to get tmi?

[Siobhan Thompson]

This is the place to do it

[Kendall Landrin]

on my masturbation journey this last month. I'm telling you, I'm sorry, John. I've really cultivated a routine for myself

[Siobhan Thompson]

and that's beautiful and I look forward to it. And you're looking at your tracking statistics. You like that weird billionaire who's trying to keep himself young.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

I really started to be like, wait, this is actually enough for me. I've got it all figured out. So I think, yeah, invest. Buy yourself a nice toy and give yourself an hour and a half in the shower. It's because we got. We. I've always had kind of shit showers and we just got a shower and I feel like I'm having a master in the Caribbean. It's like, I put on like rain music. It's incredible. But I also think you can get so specific nowadays. Like, you can literally be like, I'm looking for a book club of like open singles who are interested in bds. There's such.

[Siobhan Thompson]

There's so many specific.

[Kendall Landrin]

You got to go to a. If you're like, I have to get. Go to a meetup.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Don't do the apps. You. I mean, people. People like him. I think for me, here's my problem with the apps is that I'm a very vibes based attraction person. Yeah. The look of a person has never been particularly important to me. I've. I've dated very attractive people. I've dated to other people. Not attractive, but. But, like the vibe is. Is really important to me. I can't tell from the app if the vibe is going to be there.

[Jordan Myra]

Sure.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And frankly, the answer is almost never. Because men don't know how to talk and talking is really important to me, being able to keep up the conversation. I'm unfortunately very good at it, and I need somebody to be able to do that too. But if it's just a casual sex situation, go to a bar, because that's very easy. You don't have to worry about, like, well, is this person on. The apps look completely different? And, like, wow, their inability to ask a question is really turning me off.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, there really is. I was talking to maybe Corinne the other day. We were talking about how, like, I don't know, we're in this world, we're all, like, comedians or in the entertainment industry. And so we're very used to a level of communication, I think, which, for better or for worse, because I've been in scenarios where I'm like, okay, we do one more bit. I'm gonna lose my mind.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Oh, for sure.

[Kendall Landrin]

But we're all able to, like, keep a conversation. And every so often, we were talking about, like, we'll meet someone, and we're were like, oh, my. Like, I. If you can't have a conversation with me.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes.

[Kendall Landrin]

I don't even begin to know what a conversation with other people look like,

[Jordan Myra]

because I can keep it going.

[Kendall Landrin]

Question. I've asked you what your mom does for work. I'm asking you what your first memory with your grandmother is. And you just respond one word answers and not a single question.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And it's like, are you. Is. Are you doing this because you don't want to have a conversation with me? Yeah, I don't think so. I think often that is. That's what they got.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. And then so I've started to, as I've gotten older, been like, hey, I actually. Because I used to put so much pressure on myself to keep stuff going, and I've started to get much more comfortable being, like, I don't have to lead the conversation.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Hey, I've asked three questions. You haven't asked any. That's it.

[Kendall Landrin]

We'll sit and say, that's fine. And I have found so many conversations, when I took that pressure off myself just ceased to exist. Yeah, it's wild.

[Jordan Myra]

It's great, it's beautiful. But all this to say, I think being single is beautiful. And I think I so firmly believe. Believe that being happily single is 1 million times better than being in a not so hot relationship.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yes. Because I. I've also found when I've been in relationships that were on. On the outs, you spent a lot of time going, I don't know what. What can I do to fix this? What can I do that I'm doing wrong? What am I? You know, especially as, like, as a woman, as like, like sort of a people pleaser. I'm like, well, I can change.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah.

[Siobhan Thompson]

And I. My phone is ringing

[Kendall Landrin]

and I need to take a call.

[Jordan Myra]

Time to go.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I did just buy a house.

[Kendall Landrin]

Congratulations.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I did. I'll show it to you often.

[Kendall Landrin]

I know, follow up questions, but I was like, well, any follow up question would, yeah, dox me, so I'm not gonna ask them. But that's so exciting.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, that's so great. So I think this is a perfect place to end the podcast because it really tells you you can do anything

[Siobhan Thompson]

single, you can do anything. I bought a house and I'm gonna live in it. Wow.

[Jordan Myra]

Good for you, Siobhan.

[Siobhan Thompson]

I'm happy for you. And I'm gonna pay somebody to do all the DIY that a man would do badly around the house. And I'm gonna pay them and they'll do it properly.

[Kendall Landrin]

Well, I'll tell you, when we tour houses because we. We recently bought a place as well. And when we tour these places, it is the men's. And I know people joke about this, but, like, the decor is gorgeous. And then you get to these pockets where the man was clearly allowed to put his little things, and it is horrifying. I. I feel so bad for. I feel so bad.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Yeah. I truly. That is a big part of me being single. I don't want a man messing up my beautiful house with their fucking Funko Pops.

[Kendall Landrin]

But that's like, Jordan has all these little trinkets that used to make me want to lose it because I like my hair like an Airbnb. I'm the boy. Jordan is. And now it's genius. I mean, and this is just privilege, but now I'm like, Jordan has their own office and that's where all their stuff goes.

[Jordan Myra]

My man cave.

[Kendall Landrin]

Your man cave.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Exactly.

[Kendall Landrin]

And you put all your little trinkets and weird little Barbie dolls in there that are. What are they called? Magic High dolls. Monster High.

[Jordan Myra]

Monster High. Just shut up. Shut up. We need to.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Jordan. Man Cave, they call them.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yeah. With your Barbies.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah. Just everybody shut up. Okay. All right. Well, Siobhan, thank you so much for being here. Is there anything you want to plug right now?

[Siobhan Thompson]

Thank you. Oh, gosh, I don't know. Watch Dimension 20.

[Kendall Landrin]

Yes.

[Siobhan Thompson]

Follow me on things at Vytom, but I don't get too excited. I'm not. I'm not making premium content anywhere.

[Jordan Myra]

Well, Siobhan we love you. And we'll put Siobhan's handle in the description of this. So go follow Siobhan on every single platform you can and make sure to.

[Kendall Landrin]

Sorry, didn't mean to.

[Jordan Myra]

No, no, no, you do it. You do it.

[Kendall Landrin]

Make sure to rate and review us. If you're listening, make sure to, like, comment. Subscribe if you're on YouTube. Five stars, please. It really helps us out. And join our Patreon if you're looking for extra content from us.

[Jordan Myra]

Yeah, and don't forget that this is a completely independently made podcast by Kendall and I, meaning we do all the work and pay for it ourselves. And when you do any of those things, it helps us. And yeah, we're not with a network, which surprises people sometimes, but all these people you see and hear from, John Blake, our editor, we pay them. So you pay us. All right, love you. Another incredible episode. We'll see you next Monday.

[Kendall Landrin]

Bye.

[Siobhan Thompson]

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