120: Being MARRIED vs. Being ALONE (Q&A)

Summary

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Happy Wife Happy Life

Episode 120: Being MARRIED vs. Being ALONE (Q&A)

Hosts: Kendahl Landreth & Jordan Myrick
Date: July 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively, comedic, and heartfelt Q&A episode, Kendahl and Jordan tackle the nuanced realities of being in a relationship versus being alone. Drawing on their unique blend of humor, personal insights, and an “unqualified but deeply in love” perspective, they answer listener questions about relationship fulfillment, mental health and dating, and the public's fixation on celebrity personas. The conversation veers into entertaining tangents about pop culture, TikTok observations, and even their hypothetical plans if one of them were to die or if they ever divorced—all delivered with authenticity and plenty of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Relationship Fulfillment: Feeling Smaller in a Partnership

[04:00 - 09:53]

• Question: Listener feels less fulfilled since starting a relationship, missing independence and feeling emotionally drained. Wonders if breaking up is the answer.

• Kendahl’s Insight:

  • Open communication is crucial. Try expressing the desire for adventure or more time apart to a partner before making drastic decisions.
  • “I don’t think it’s going to be fixed by breaking up with this person, because...this is a problem you’re going to get into in any relationship you have.” (05:03)

• Jordan’s View:

  • Every meaningful connection (job, friend, romance) requires accommodating others, leading to some loss of spontaneity; it’s about deciding if the tradeoff is worth it.
  • “If you’re not happy, it’s never considerate to keep stringing the other person along.” (06:03)

• On Romanticizing Independence:

  • Kendahl points out we often glamorize the chaos of early adulthood and forget the benefits stability brings.
  • “You actually don’t want your entire life to be like that again. If you do...you need to grow up a little.” (07:32)

Notable Quote:

“Unless your relationship has been going really poorly and you're fighting a lot, most of the time someone will be at least kind of blindsided by a breakup.” — Jordan (09:45)

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2. Dating While Struggling with Depression

[09:58 - 13:54]

• Question: Listener asks if they should postpone dating while depressed or try despite setbacks, and wonders when to disclose mental health struggles.

• Kendahl’s Advice:

  • Depression doesn’t just “go away.” It’s about building tools for when you’re not feeling well, so you can sustain relationships.
  • "You need to get into a routine and a healthy mindset...tools for when you're not feeling good to sustain relationships." (10:44)

• Jordan’s Perspective:

  • Treat depression and dating as coexisting but independent; one shouldn’t be the “fix” for the other.
  • “You can’t look for someone else to fix your problem….I think you have to see your depression and your dating as two fully independent but coexisting things.” (12:24)

• When to Disclose:

  • Honesty is key, but you don’t need to open with everything. Be honest when it feels relevant and comfortable.
  • Focus on mutual support without overburdening a partner with your healing process.

Memorable Moment:

“You just have to figure out how to live with it and how to not put it on your partner while simultaneously being able to, like, be honest and ask for help.” — Jordan (13:54)

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3. Adventures in Judge Land: Tangent on Justice and Empathy

[13:57 - 17:41]

• Judge Kendahl Segment:

  • Jordan and Kendahl riff on the idea of Kendahl as a judge, revealing her empathetic nature (“I would feel too guilty [giving tickets]...I’d only give tickets to people in, like, bougie cars that clearly had money.” — Kendahl 16:39).
  • Humorous debate on who deserves punishment, with Jordan teasing Kendahl’s “sense of justice.”

• Personal Anecdote:

  • Kendahl describes being late to work due to a Dunkin’ Donuts drive-thru, cementing the everyday relatability and lightheartedness of the episode.

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4. Pop Culture, Celebrity "Hatred," and Bandwagoning

[19:20 - 24:49]

• Anne Hathaway and Nickelback:

  • Explores why culture randomly turns on celebrities (“Anne Hathaway is like the Nickelback of actresses.” — Jordan 19:42).
  • Analysis of how public opinion snowballs for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

• Jennifer Lawrence as “Relatable”:

  • Jordan critiques the celebrity PR push for “relatability,” expressing annoyance at manufactured awkwardness.
  • “[If] you’re a billionaire. Leave me alone. That is how I feel.” — Jordan (23:41)

• Conspiracy Corner:

  • The hosts briefly discuss the theory that Jennifer Lawrence’s Oscars fall was planned.
  • “I don’t think necessarily it’s fully fake or fully planned....maybe she teeters a tiny bit in a real way and then leans into it.” — Jordan (24:36)

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5. Teenage Girl Walk Tangent: Observing and Imitating Trends

[24:49 - 28:51]

• TikTok Walk Analysis:

  • Kendahl tries (unsuccessfully) to demonstrate the iconic “teenage girl walk” seen on TikTok, to Jordan’s confusion.
  • The conversation highlights generational quirks and the tumultuous landscape of adolescent social dynamics.

• Meta-Jokes About Searching for Videos:

  • Parodying the awkwardness of searching “teenage girl walking” online and the resultant algorithmic suspicion.

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6. The Nickelback / Music Taste Debate

[28:56 - 31:35]

• Nickelback Admission:
  • Kendahl admits to listening to Nickelback under specific circumstances (“if I was on a boat and I had a Bud Light in my hand, I’d listen to Nickelback”—Kendahl 29:19).
  • Jordan remains adamant this is not a capital offense in a spouse, underlining the importance of accepting random quirks.

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7. Parasocial Relationships & Internet Fame

[32:13 - 35:35]

• Fan Projections:
  • The hosts reflect on how fans project elaborate stories or relationships onto internet personalities, believing in “universe” connections among them (e.g., “people assume you and I live in a house with Rhett and Link”—Jordan 35:32).
  • Jokes about manufacturing drama or fake divorces for PR purposes.

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8. If We Died or Divorced: Existential Podcast Tangents

[36:01 - 43:39]

• Morbid Speculation:

  • Both muse about hypothetical scenarios: what would happen to the podcast if one of them died or if they divorced? Would they fake drama for views?
  • Kendahl volunteers to do a confessional “cheating episode” if needed, banking on the viral potential.
  • “If you cheated on me, I would make you come say it....and I would get all the adsense for that episode.”—Kendahl (37:01)

• Real Talk on Loss:

  • Jordan shares the real world burdens of loss and the odd, sometimes dark thoughts that accompany such scenarios as a couple living a public life.

Memorable, Bittersweet Quote:

“No, I thought about it because...sometimes it pops in my mind: 'if one of us died, how much stupid stuff the other one would have to deal with that we wouldn’t want to.'” — Jordan (39:28)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I know absolutely nothing [about music]. But...when people get upset when people make fun of Taylor Swift, I’m like, shut up. Who cares?...You’re supposed to make fun of people who are that famous.” — Kendahl (31:02)
• “I don’t believe in the Gaylor...I don’t believe in the Carly [Kloss], Taylor. I don’t believe in any of that.” — Jordan (32:45)
• “People assume you and I live in a house with Rhett and Link. And I’m like, no, not anymore.” — Jordan (35:32)
• “If you cheated on me, I would make you come say it [on the podcast]…and I’d get all the ad-sense for that episode.” — Kendahl (37:01)

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Conclusion

This episode leaves listeners with the message that fulfillment in either marriage or singledom requires intentional self-reflection and honest communication. Kendahl and Jordan reaffirm that relationship problems are rarely fixed by simply swapping partners or statuses. Instead, “scratch your itches” thoughtfully and remember there are tradeoffs at every stage of life. Along the way, the hosts’ tangents, personal stories, and fearless commentary on celebrity and internet culture provide ample laughs and relatable insights for anyone navigating modern love.

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Transcript

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Extra initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. Me slow when network is busy. See terms. Welcome to Happy Wife Happ hosts.

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I'm Kendall Landrin.

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And I'm Jordan Myrick.

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And we are two incredibly unqualified but

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deeply in love comedians who we're here to help you with all things relationships. And on today's episode, apparently we're becoming qualified.

[A]

We're getting our degrees. Just kidding. We're unqualified.

[B]

Still unqualified.

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I just had hope inside me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To feel qualified for one moment.

[B]

You know, we say unqualified, but I do feel like we are somewhat qualified.

[A]

You don't think in what capacity? No, the point of saying that is we're confirming we're not doctors and we don't have a degree. And any advice we give you.

[B]

Yeah.

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Advice you should take with a grain of salt. As if a friend told you.

[B]

As if a friend told you.

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And don't sue us. But also, we're your smartest friends. And I know that by fact.

[B]

Wow.

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We're your smartest friends.

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Also, I want to say something fun because John's here, but he's heading out. Out soon.

[A]

John.

[B]

So many of the comments recently have been like, I love when I hear John laughing in the background. Like if.

[A]

Yeah.

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If you go to the YouTube, people love when you think we're funny. So that's my best quality. Is my laugh. Yes.

[A]

Good. It always, like, gets me. It's funny too, because I feel like, because you and I are comedians.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We really respond to a laugh and we're not used to it. So I can tell every time that.

[B]

What do you mean we're not used to it?

[A]

We're not used to not having laughter. But when we podcast, I think we

[B]

already were used to getting laughs. I was like, no, we're not used

[A]

to not hearing laughter. So when we do the podcast, we were really just relying on being like, I think that was funny. But so then when John laughs, you can see it in our arms, we get, like, kind of hyped up. And then we, like, keep going with it, even if it's like, not that fun.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Cause we were just like, oh, we're on a roll. This week was fun. What did we do? A couple things. You know what I was thinking about on the ride here? Tell me when I called the last. What did I call? The Last Supper.

[B]

Oh, my God. We're watching something the other night and there's a bunch of people sitting at a long table. And Kendall goes, oh, my God, it's like the first dinner. And I thought I said, what's the first dinner? She said, you know, like, with Jesus and all those guys. Yeah, and I said, the Last Supper.

[A]

I thought it was the first. So that's why they were celebrating.

[B]

She thought there was a poster of it. Excuse me, Poster. Famous painting.

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Print.

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Extremely famous painting. She thought that existed because it was the first dinner that was had with Jesus, I guess. And then I was like, but what did you think he did before then? He's an adult man and not painting.

[A]

I thought they arrived that day from out of nowhere. You know what's rude? And any person who's religious is going to make it be like, that's crazy. You thought that.

[B]

I'm not religious.

[A]

That's not crazy. I thought that crazier things happened than a bunch of people poofing into the air and then having a dinner together.

[B]

But you know, they didn't poof. Because you know about Christmas. You know about Christmas. True or false?

[A]

Wait, what do you mean? I know about Christmas?

[B]

Jesus was born on Christmas. That's the whole Christmas.

[A]

He was born in the summer.

[B]

No, that's like a thing now where people are like, actually, Jesus wasn't born in December, but, like, it doesn't matter. And I have no clue. But you know that the premise of Christmas is that, you know, Mary couldn't. They couldn't find a place for her to have the baby, and all the hotels turned them away. And then finally they turned up and then she gave birth to Jesus in a manger.

[A]

Yes, of course.

[B]

Yeah, you know that. So you know, Jesus didn't just poof.

[A]

What are we doing today?

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We're gonna answer some questions people have been mailing in and we're gonna answer em. Okay, you ready?

[A]

Yes, I am.

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First question. I'm in a relationship of almost a year and keep thinking back to how much more fulfilled I felt before I started dating my now partner. I feel like in a way, my world is getting smaller instead of getting bigger. Logistically, it's hard to schedule dates or even my own time to do stuff. Because of our work before, I was free to go see my friends, play games, go out dancing, But I have a lot less time for that now since I have another person's schedule to accompl accommodate. When we get together, I feel like it's always something at my place or theirs. I really love adventure and exploring and feel like a small piece of that has died a little bit. We've already had several fights, not about this issue in particular, and I feel emotionally tapped out. I know they're a great person and they really love me. I don't want to blindside them. But I also don't know that I feel especially happy in this relationship. What should I do? Should I end things, even though I feel like it would be out of nowhere for them?

[A]

Well, I feel like you have to talk about it with them first because maybe they don't realize that's a problem that you're having. Because I think it's a really easy fix to be like, I want to go on more adventures, or I want to go out of our house more, or I want to go on my own and spend more time with friends and do stuff on my own, get a hobby, do these things. That, to be honest, I don't think it's going to be fixed by breaking up with this person, because I feel like this is a problem you're going to get into in any relationship you have, because even I feel like, you know, we're both very independent from each other, But I still have to put an effort to make sure I'm doing stuff on my own.

[B]

Of course, because you do have to accommodate someone else's schedule. But in my opinion, that's not just in a romantic relationship. That's with a job, that's with friends. There's a lot to do. You know, one of my best friends in the entire world, Lily Du, had a baby two years ago, and that has changed my life greatly for the better. I love my nephew more than anything in the entire world, but that has been a change. So I think it's hard because you have to either decide that the change is worth it or decide that the change is not worth it. And then, yeah, you. You stop being friends with that person. You end that job, you end that relationship. But you know us, we're always gonna be like, if you're not happy, it's never considerate to keep stringing the other person along. And we even I would Say, over the last couple months, have been talking privately a lot about applying that to friendships.

[A]

Yes, because. But I also think that is a problem that's going to arise again if you're not able to, like, take control of your life in that way and you feel like you have to fully remove someone to fix it. I don't think removing that person is going to fix it. Do you know what I mean?

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I think you're 100% right. It is so hard to say because it's just like, what's the problem? Is the problem that this person is too demanding? Or maybe nothing's wrong with this person, but you just don't like them enough to make those changes for them, which is totally a valid way to feel. Or are you someone that's just, like, obsessed with the concept of being hyper independent, which often, a lot of times is kind of like a fallacy that you're living out in your own head?

[A]

Well, and in that same vein, are you romanticizing this period of your life that changed because you got into a relationship, but also changed separate from that just because you also were getting older? Because I also think there's no way to recreate that feeling and that insane spontaneity of your early 20s and you actually don't want to be having that life anymore. But of course, you have those moments of, like, remember when I would just wander the streets and then I would hook up with this guy and then I would be drunk and then I go to work. And you think, like, you romanticize it, but in actuality, you're much happier with your stable life. But there are ways to go scratch that itch without blowing up your life, because you actually don't want your entire life to be like that again. And if you do, I feel like you need. It's not good. You need to grow up a little, you know, because I do have friends that. Not friends, but I know people that are older than me that are still kind of living that way, but they're often people who are, like, in a lot of debt or, like, sure, trouble

[B]

with the law, and don't feel as good as it. Like, you're saying the romanticization of that concept feels so much more satisfying or. I'm very susceptible, as I'm sure you guys know, to the depiction of that. Like, I just started watching Shameless and I'm like, ugh, I remember when I used to be wild. And watching it depicted is very fun and charming in a way that actually living it is not.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, also In a show like Shameless. And I have actually not seemed shameless, but when I've even been watching with you, because it's a show things. Also, even though there's a lot of hardship in that show, things work out in an easier way than they do in real life rather than it's. And that's like, in books, too. I read a lot of books with, like, toxic people in them, but it always wraps up in a nice bow. And that does not happen. It's kind of like the ideal. If I date this toxic person, and it's will they, won't they? Will they, won't they? And then in the end, not only do they, it's perfect. And both of them are at their peak of emotional availability and peak emotional intelligence. And that does not happen in real life.

[B]

100%. You're completely right. So I think do some soul searching, but also let this person go. Let them be free. It's fine to blindside someone, but you can't really help whether or not you blindside someone. I guess don't lie to them all the time is a way to prevent it. Like, if you're always like, I love you so much. I love you so much. You're the one for me. You're my soulmate. And then all of a sudden, you're like, I've never liked you, and I'm breaking up with you. Yeah, sure, that's a way to blindside, but. But unless your relationship has been going really poorly and you're fighting a lot, most of the time, someone will be at least kind of blindsided by a breakup.

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Yeah.

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So it's hard to be like, I want to do it, but I don't want to blindside them. It's like, okay, well, what are you going to do? Just start kind of, like, treating them poorly, and then after a month of doing that, be like, actually, I'm going to break up with you?

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I just think you should talk to them, because I was thinking maybe they're feeling a similar way. Sure. Next question.

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You're right, Corny. I've been suffering from depression for a very long time, though I've only been diagnosed for about six years at this point. As you might imagine, and as many people with similar diagnoses have experienced, having severe depression gets in the way of dating people quite a lot. But being alone and, quite frankly, lonely is also negatively affecting my depression. So should I postpone dating someone until I'm at the point where I'm in a better position to make something work or Should I try to date and accept that I might get a lot of setbacks? And when do you think is the best time to inform the person you are dating of your depression or other mental health hurdles?

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Well, it's really hard because I don't have depression, so maybe I'm the wrong person to answer this.

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We'll find out. How's your advice? I'll weigh in.

[A]

But I have other problems, and I guess to me, I would assume it never just goes away. So, like, what are you kind of waiting for to be like, well, until I'm in a good place. But then I've seen with my friends with depression, they start dating someone when they're in a good place, and then they break up when they're in a bad place. And then we do that over and over and over again. So I think, realistically, you need to get into a routine and a healthy mindset. You don't need to work on making yourself feel better. You need to work on tools for when you're not feeling good to sustain relationships.

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Absolutely.

[A]

And I. I think it's one of those hard things. We've talked about this before, but it's kind of a skill you can only practice when you're doing it. Like, the only way I was able to heal from being anxiously attached was by dating people, because when I wasn't dating someone, I didn't have those struggles.

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You weren't able to put that stuff into practice.

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So I think it is kind of like a lot of people who I know who have depression, they kind of just. Some people push everyone away because they're. They don't want to hurt anybody. But you then have no responsibility to push yourself to be better.

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Absolutely.

[A]

So I think you kind of have to be dating, and obviously, this all depends on how bad it is, you know, yourself. I'm not saying if you're in the worst place of your life, jump into a relationship, but I think if you're always like, I'm generally struggling, but I want to be in a relationship. I think, like anything, we all struggle with something. Continue working on yourself and ways to push through the hardest of your times while still being somewhat of a partner that can show up for your partner.

[B]

Yes. I think if you're, like, truly at rock bottom in anything, it's probably not ideal to jump into a relationship. But I think Kendall's 100. Right. It's like, you're gonna have ups and downs in your relationship. You just can't look for someone else to fix your problem. So you Were saying that, like, a lot of times being single makes you feel lonely, which can make depression worse. I don't really think you can think about it like that, because I think you have to see your depression and your dating as two fully independent but coexisting things.

[A]

Yeah.

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And they can affect each other, but I don't think you can treat them like the catalyst for one another.

[A]

Yeah.

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I think they have to be like parallel lines with vibes radiating off the parallel lines, so you can feel the effects of the other ones, but they're never intersecting, is what I think about it. Because when you date, like Kendall said, you are going to be depressed at times. You're going to be not depressed at times. To me, it feels very much like being an addict. Once again, like Kendall said, like, you're always. If you have depression, you'll probably always have depression if it's like, a true mental illness and not just like, you're going through something at the time, and you just have to figure out how to live with it and how to not put it on your partner while simultaneously being able to, like, be honest and ask for help. I think that's the biggest thing. I obviously have a lot of mental health stuff, but I think that for me, the biggest part of it is just being like, this is not about Kendall, but also understanding that it affects Kendall.

[A]

Ding, ding, ding. Gavel.

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Show off the gavel. Show the people the gavel. Judge Kendall, I think you would be

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really cute as a judge.

[B]

As a judge, having your own judge show.

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No one would get in trouble. What are you. I'd be a horrible judge.

[B]

I feel like the opposite. I feel like everyone would get in trouble.

[A]

Everyone would get a really specific punishment.

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You love punishing people. No, Kendall, you.

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But you deserve a lot of punishment.

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No, you like punishing other people, too.

[A]

Like, what are you talking about?

[B]

Oh, you just think everyone's bad and what, Kendall, Wait, what are you talking about? Like, you get annoyed easily.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And you feel very strongly when you've been wronged.

[A]

Sure. But when you're a judge, no one's wronged you. You don't know that. Yeah, I'm a judge for people in my life that have wronged me.

[B]

No, but don't you think that, like, judges feel a sense of these people have wronged the public?

[A]

It depends on what I'm judging. I guess for a judging show, I would be like, it's probably not that serious of crimes.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

So I think with that, I would be like, you're fine. Like, I would Be that judge who passed away, I think, who. That judge who was always viral for, like, giving people a lesser sentence.

[B]

Oh, but that wasn't a TV judge. Right? That was a.

[A]

That was a real judge.

[B]

That was a real judge. Are you crying? No, I didn't say I. Kendall immediately started touching the. The internal quarters of her eyes.

[A]

I just loved that man. No, it would just be like, a person being like, I have a parking ticket, and I can't afford it. And he'd be like, then you don't have to pay it. And then it was. It was just sweet. I feel like that's how I would be. I don't know how anyone's not like that. I don't know. I, I. To me. But maybe it's a specific person who becomes a judge. I guess that's how I'm sure it is. That's like, when you talk about a police officer. I mean, that's all a can of worms. But when I'm like, I can't imagine giving someone a ticket for. Unless they were speeding. Oh, you know who I'd give a ticket? People who speed. Speed. When people zoom on past you.

[B]

Oh, people are going, like, 125 on the highway.

[A]

Any. Exactly. But anytime someone was just going, like, a little bit, and then they were, like, crying, I would be like, there. I physically can't give you a chicken. I would feel so bad. So it's like, yeah, it's a specific type of person that can do that job, and a specific type being a bad person.

[B]

And you think that the crime would work on you?

[A]

I just think I. Yes, I think I would feel like I would feel too guilty, and I also would. It would be clear they don't have the money to do it. I also think. No, no, no.

[B]

Giving someone a ticket.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

Yeah, speeding ticket.

[A]

Yeah. I wouldn't do it.

[B]

But what if they had the money?

[A]

But I think I would be able to tell. Like, I guess that's another thing, which is. This is probably illegal, but it's like, I'd only give tickets to people in, like, bougie cars that clearly had money.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And, like, you can't do that.

[B]

A Robin Hood type.

[A]

I guess so. But I would feel. Yeah. If it was, like, a car that didn't have a bumper and there was, like, a single mom in the front crying.

[B]

How do you know she's a single mom?

[A]

She tells me, last time I got pulled over, I was going to work as a janitor. The last time I was pulled over,

[B]

and you had Dunkin Donuts in the car.

[A]

Yes. And that was part of it. I said, I'm late. And he said, well, you're not that late. You have Dunkin Donuts. I said, that's why I'm late.

[B]

That's so.

[A]

Because it was. It was like one of those things where like, you know how this goes, but you're like, okay, I have like a four minute grace period. Sometimes you zip on through the drive through, there's no one in line, and you're in and out in a minute and a half. And then you're in the line and you're like, okay, this is taking 15 minutes. This is taking 20 minutes. Oh, but now I can't get out of the line because I'm in the line. That's what happened.

[B]

I'll tell you right now, honey, you're never getting through the Dunkin Donuts line in four minutes.

[A]

I've done it. I've done it.

[B]

Less than that.

[A]

I've done it.

[B]

I don't believe it.

[A]

Sometimes there's no one in the line and you just zip, zip, zop a lot of lines.

[B]

You're zip, zap, zapping through. You are not zip, zapping through the

[A]

Dunkin Donuts line in the one we used to go to. Yeah, I don't believe she, the one woman who worked there was a fan. I don't believe you cranked it out for me. Cuz you order on the app and you just pick up for Kendall. Boom, boom, done.

[B]

I hate Dunkin Donuts.

[A]

Okay, well, you don't drink coffee.

[B]

I don't drink coffee. I think their donuts are bad.

[A]

Well, nobody gets donuts from Dun Donuts.

[B]

They have no food for the most part. That doesn't.

[A]

Okay, careful. They have the wake up wrap with maple bacon, which you can't eat anymore. Okay, but I used to.

[B]

Everybody knows this, right? Now everyone knows this. Kendall's lupus is out of remission, so she's being punished. And she's not allowed to have any red meat. She's not allowed to go in the store.

[A]

You're making it sound like the way

[B]

we were spanking twice a day.

[A]

The way you're saying it is like they're unrelated to.

[B]

These are this.

[A]

And these are just punishments.

[B]

I'm just general punishment.

[A]

I'm not allowed to go outside. I'm not.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

No. Because I'm out of remission now and I'm. Or you're my body slowly attacking itself. Not slowly. Quickly. It seems. I can't. Yeah. Go in the sun anymore. I can't. No red meat.

[B]

Lots of sleep.

[A]

I have to sleep all the time.

[B]

No alcohol.

[A]

No alcohol. I didn't even drink that much before, but now I like no alcohol. And I have to wear a stupid little sun hat and a stupid little sun shirt and I look like a total noob at the beach. I'm not even allowed to go to the beach. But, like, when I walk, I have to wear full head to toe. I'm like, allergic to the sun. It's really.

[B]

Have you seen Anne Hathway go to the beach?

[A]

Yes, I have. You've sent me it many times.

[B]

Blake's gonna put a picture up of Anne Hathaway at the beach. She's wearing a full body sunsuit and a huge hat. She looks like she's going diving with sharks every time she goes to the beach because she's wearing a full body sunsuit and she looks unbelievable.

[A]

Do you like her?

[B]

Do I like Anne Hathaway?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

A lot of people don't like her.

[B]

I think that's fake. I think the not liking Anne Hathaway is like not liking Nickelback. It's like a made up thing. That's not real.

[A]

Yeah, those are the same.

[B]

They are the same. I think they're. And everyone knows this. I didn't invent this, so I'm not claiming to. But there are specific things that for no reason, culturally, people decided to hop on a bandwagon.

[A]

No reason.

[B]

That's a good song.

[A]

That's the reason. What are you talking about? For no reason? We all collectively went, hey, what are we listening to?

[B]

So you think that out of.

[A]

Tell me that was accurate. That sounded exactly right.

[B]

So you think out of every band in the world, the one band that we should all hate, that should be the butt of every joke for many, many years is Nickelback?

[A]

I do, I think also. Well, first of all, they're so successful, so it's punching up. Who cares? Also, I think the reason the Nickelback jokes happen is because there's a very specific person that listens to Nickelback. I think the people you know who's getting that same treatment, I think now is like Imagine Dragons is going to be the Nickelback where. I like Imagine Dragons, but a very specific person still listens to Imagine Dragons.

[B]

Imagine Dragons is not being treated the way Nickelback was. Maybe you just don't remember, but there was a time when it was like Nickelback was the butt of every single joke and Hathaway became the same thing. There's lots of Things like this where it's like, all of a sudden, we all hate this, like, one specific thing for no reason. It doesn't matter whether you like Nickelback or not. I don't like Nickelback, but.

[A]

Can I ask you something? Would you date someone who said, my favorite band is Nickelback?

[B]

No. But that doesn't mean that I think Nickelback should be the laughing stock of the entire music industry when there are musicians that are so genuinely bad. There are musicians that are so genuinely perverted and weird and have done real bad stuff. There's a lot of bands that, if people were like, this is my favorite band. I would not want to date them.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not funny if they've done bad stuff. What's funny about Nickelback is that it's just like. What is that? It'd be really weird if someone's like, the butt of every joke is this band that, like, did horrible things to people. And also. What are you, Nickelback's mom? Why do you care if they're the butt of every joke?

[B]

Because it's stupid. I don't like a weird bandwagon of hatred thing. It doesn't make sense. And that's how people were with Anne Hathaway. For some reason, Anne Hathaway was in Les Mis, and all of a sudden everyone was like, I hate her. I wish she was dead. And I don't even like. I think Anne Hathaway is very beautiful. I think she's a talented actress. Anne Hathaway is not someone that I think about very often. She's not like one of my people.

[A]

But I. No, I agree. It was kind of the Jennifer Lawrence thing, too. They do it. They do it with a woman every five years. They pick a random woman who's succeeding, and then they're like, you're done now.

[B]

Okay, but this is what I have to say about the Jennifer Lawrence.

[A]

Be careful. Be careful.

[B]

You love Jennifer Lawrence. And I love Jennifer Lawrence, too.

[A]

Honestly, I don't love Jennifer Lawrence. I'm in love with Jennifer Lawrence.

[B]

I think Jennifer Lawrence is extremely talented, and I like her a lot. I think that her PR people messed things up for her because I think they pushed that thing that is insincere, where they're like, act like you're a slob. Act like you're nasty. Act like, whatever. When you're, like, a hot, famous actress who's, like, thin and has perfect skin and is very calculated in their career success. And that's something that I don't like. I hate when I Meet a beautiful, smart, talented, successful woman who's like, I don't know. I'm just awkward. I'm just so sloppy me. What did I have for dinner last night? Pizza. It's like, what? Shut up. I hate that. That, like, downplaying of yourself. And also, I'm like, if you really are, like, sloppy and awkward and weird and bad, quote, unquote, like, why are you so thin? Why are your eyebrows so manicured? Why are your clothes so tailored? Like, all these things where I don't know. I just don't like that. I think it's very insincere. I'm like, either care or don't care. I don't think Anne Hathaway is the same way. I do think there was some misogynistic pushback against Jennifer Lawrence, obviously. But yeah, as someone in the entertainment industry, I see. I'm like, I think her people really pushed her, needing to be, quote, unquote, relatable to a way where it started to, like, ostracize people and be like, wait, are you relatable? You're famous. You're not relatable.

[A]

Do you think her fault the Oscars is real?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

It's like the new did we really land on the moon?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did not. Did 911 happen? Did can jet fuel melt steel beams? Is whether or not she fell at the Oscars. But I agree, this is what I'll say. I don't feel think necessarily it's fully fake or fully planned. I don't think about it that often to begin with, but I have watched it back in more recent years. I didn't think it was planned when it happened. I didn't think anything about it. But watching it back, it feels a little bit like maybe she teeters a tiny bit in a real way and then leans into it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then after is like, me, I can barely walk on two feet. It reminds me of when I was in middle school and I intentionally stood pigeon toed because I thought it made me a little different.

[A]

Wait, Jordan, that's what I was trying to do an impression of the other day. Do you not know what I'm talking about?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yesterday you got so annoyed with me when because I was like, don't you feel like teenage girls walk like this? And I was, no, that's not what

[B]

you were doing, though. Kendall was in our bathroom and she was like, doing this weird thing where she was kind of like walking around the room as if she was walking around a wrestling ring while simultaneously Being shy. And I was on the toilet and I was like, what are you doing? And she was like, I'm walking like a teenage girl. And I was like, I don't understand. And then you did it more. And I was like, I'm sorry, I still don't understand, because I saw.

[A]

I was trying to say, like, I saw these tiktoks that was like, don't teenage girls always walk like this? I was trying to do it, but I couldn't.

[B]

Show us.

[A]

I couldn't.

[B]

No, no, show us.

[A]

I couldn't remember what they were, but that's what it was, is they walk. They like.

[B]

Wait, start further back so everyone can

[A]

see with your butt out, though. Because, like, this is how popular girls would walk. Like, they would walk, like, okay, for example. Hold on.

[B]

We're getting in the wide. We're getting in the wide for some reason.

[A]

Like, okay. Like, okay. She has to get up to do. It's like, the popular girl never talks. She has to get up to do an assignment or to do a public speaking.

[B]

That's how she'd walk. I have. No, wait, let me fix your pocket. I have. Let me walk to you again.

[A]

She'd walk, like, with her butt. Her butt is out.

[B]

Okay, this is part of it, too.

[A]

Butt's fully out because she's trying to

[B]

give herself a thigh gap.

[A]

And by she, I mean me, myself, or your face. And they walk kind of like this.

[B]

No, I have no clue. Other pocket. I have no clue what you catch me. Please let Abel sit down so you don't have to. Okay. There you go. I don't know what you're talking about. My thing was different.

[A]

That means the call was coming from inside the house.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. My thing was different because I was standing pigeon toed in a quirky Zooey Deschanel ukulele type of way in, like, seventh and eighth grade. First of all, I don't know what you're talking about when you say the popular girl who never talks.

[A]

Like, okay, okay. Popular is the wrong word. The girl who fucks. You know what I mean? Like, the girl who's in the back of the class. She's never turned in a singular assignment. She's always putting lotion on. And then you ask her if she has a boyfriend, and she's like, yeah, I'm dating a college boy. You know what I mean? Like, not. Not popular, but, like, hot. I don't know how to say it. Like, girl that's like, hot.

[B]

I think hot makes hot.

[A]

And she fucks and she's like, doesn't give a shit about school. I understand. But she's also, like, insecure, and she's trying to seem cool. Like, it's a lot. And she has stuff going on at

[B]

home, you know, it's very Degrassi. And I get what you're saying. I don't. I have no recollection of those.

[A]

Can I try to pull up a video?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I have no recollection of those girls. Walking pigeon toed. I think. Butt out. Breasts out. Sure, I hear you. I'm understanding everything else. The walking pigeon toad. You're doing what people on the line joke about being, like, the vice principal. Walk a little bit.

[A]

No. Oh, my God. I hate when I search something and then it's like, no results found. This phrase may be associated with behavior content that violates our. It makes me feel like a total pervert. Well.

[B]

Cause would you look at a hot teenage girl? Yeah, you are a pervert.

[A]

No, I searched teenage girl walking.

[B]

Oh, that's really on the line.

[A]

You know, I get fully my account banned. How do I even search this funny

[B]

teenage girl walk video?

[A]

This is so, like. Okay, here we go. I can't find it, but I'm gonna send you some. I'm gonna send you some.

[B]

It feels like it doesn't exist.

[A]

No, I just don't have good service right now.

[B]

Is that true? I have perfect service.

[A]

Well, congratulations. We have different phone plans, honey.

[B]

Next question.

[A]

Look at this hologram.

[B]

That song's not that bad. Wait, Abel, what do you think?

[A]

Okay, so I played in bands, and I grew up in it. It's like, the one band you can't say you like, but everybody likes it. And I don't know where it is, but in the rock world, like, that's the thing. Like, you make fun of it with people, but you listen to it by yourself. And I actually think that's true because I would listen to Nickelback. What?

[B]

Are you kidding me?

[A]

If I'm on Here's what if I was on a boat and I had a Bud Light in my hand, I'd listen to Nickelback, but getting ready for the day. If you heard me listening to Nickelback and I was getting ready, I wouldn't think that wouldn't be a turn of it.

[B]

Anything of it. You're my wife. I wouldn't think anything of it at all at this point. It wouldn't be that crazy. If you were listening on, like, shuffle and then a Nickelback song came up, I'd be like, whatever. I You. The whole time we were in Europe, you made us listen to that one song.

[A]

This is for the birds.

[B]

This is for the bees. This is for the.

[A]

Okay, so now we've gotten to the root of the problem, which is that if you don't know the difference between Country Girl Shake It For Me and Nickelback, that tells me everything I need to know. Because one of those is a musical. I mean, masterpiece. And Nickelback, I think, is a masterpiece of its time. But there's, like, Green Day. That's so.

[B]

So wait, let's back up. You think Nickelback is a masterpiece of its time?

[A]

No, no, no, no. I think Country Girl Shake It For Me is a masterpiece of its time and of this time, and I think it's an incredible song. To me, Nickelback and Green Day are one of the same. It is so specific to a certain time period that it is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It would never come out nowadays. It's like, if you listen to something by Buddy Holly, I'm like, yeah, you would know. It came out in the 50s or whenever that was. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

I think you're probably the least qualified person in the world to talk about music.

[A]

I would agree with that. I actually. I'd agree with that. I would agree with that. I know absolutely nothing. But I do think that it. I'm just like, who cares? To me, being famous, it's like, when. This is what it is. When people get upset, when people make fun of Taylor Swift, I'm like, shut up. Like, who cares? Like, no one who cares. She's. She's the richest person, the most successful person. She doesn't care. And if she does care, screw her. Who cares? It's like, that's who you're supposed to make fun of. You're supposed to make fun of people who are that famous.

[B]

Nickelback is not famous. Like Taylor Swift.

[A]

Oh, oh, okay.

[B]

Taylor Swift is a billionaire.

[A]

But Nickelback is.

[B]

But also, Taylor Swift is being. How I was saying earlier, where she was like, I'm just. I don't know. I'm just like, an awkward girl. Like, I'm just like the girl next door. I'm like, you're a billionaire. Leave me alone. That is how I feel. And. But first of all, let me say, I know we're talking about Taylor Swift, and I want to tell you right now, woman who. Who still sends me dms about Taylor Swift after one time I made a joke about her on good mythical morning, like, four years ago, she still will send me DMs and she'll be like, don't think I forgot about what you said about Taylor Swift. Still to this day, unwell.

[A]

She must be busy, though, because, like, what you said about Taylor Swift wasn't even that bad.

[B]

I'm like, I made a joke. I said in a. I had to do a roast battle for work, for money, so Kendall and I can have insurance so I can take care of my wife with her lupus. Keep that in mind. I had to do a roast battle at work. And there were different categories, and one of the categories was Taylor Swift. And I said, I can't say anything bad about Taylor Swift because she and I are both lesbians who can't sing. This is, like, four years ago. It's such an innocuous joke. I compared her to myself. Obviously, Taylor Swift can sing. She's a famous singer.

[A]

And also, you can sing.

[B]

And that's true. I'm actually not that bad at singing. And obviously, Taylor Swift is not a lesbian. I've never thought she was a lesbian. I do not believe in the gaylor. What? The gaylor. I almost said the tarly of it all. The gaylord of it all. I don't believe in the Carly Claus, Taylor. I don't believe in any of that. Okay. At all. People always assume because I'm a lesbian, I. I don't believe in any of that. As you know, I think the only barrier to entry of being in the LGBTQ community is saying that I am a member of the community. You can be closeted, but then I also still shouldn't be talking about you. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. That's so funny when people be like, so you can't assume her sexuality. They're wearing a shirt that says Taylor Swift is gay. They're like, she could be closeted. I'm like, so actually, if she's closeted, you're her biggest villain.

[B]

1.

[A]

You're. Imagine if you're going to school and you're closeted and your biggest supporter is wearing a shirt that says you're gay. That's crazy. Yeah. Also, it's just completely different, and I don't even have time or the care to go into it. But I'm just saying.

[B]

But people get like that all the time, though. They're like, well, but what if so. And so is gay? People get on me because I don't like Cate Blanchett, which I speak about publicly all the time, which probably will prevent me from getting cast in something one day. But, you know, sometimes you just have to Speak your truth.

[A]

There's no way that's true, babe. The only things that she's cast in are things where she's playing the singular lesbian in it.

[B]

So I could.

[A]

And she's already been cast because they made the movie for her.

[B]

For some reason, you hate to see it. I will talk about not liking her, and sometimes people be like, well, what if she's queer? I'm like, so she's explicitly said she's not. She's married to a man. She's never identified as queer.

[A]

Like, what do you need?

[B]

To me, it feels like you can't say anything bad about Donald Trump because maybe he's pansexual. It's like, okay, I don't know. Maybe he is. Who cares?

[A]

My least favorite person on earth. I won't say their name. They're gay.

[B]

Who?

[A]

You know, the main. The main. Gay as the day is long.

[B]

Evil.

[A]

And they're evil. You know what's so funny about Donald Trump, too? Gay is the day as long. Gay is the day as long.

[B]

And as I'm evil and my number one villain, I am always so interested in seeing who people think we are or are not friends with, because I'll see a lot of things of people be like, oh, are you, like, not friends with this person anymore? And I'm kind of like, I was never friends with that person. That. That's a job. Like, I worked a job. Or people will be like, why don't you speak up about this person? That's bad. And I'm like, that's a person from four years ago that worked at a similar company to the company that I worked at. I never met, don't like them, and I never talk to them. Whatever. I'm just like. But then sometimes people will see, like, a picture of you and me together, and they'll be like, how do you two know each other? I'm like, we're married. Or they'll be like, wait, are you actually friends with Rekha Shankar? I'm like, yeah, for the last 12 years. It just feels so crazy to me when people. But then people assume that, like, you and I live in a house with Rhett and Link. And I'm like, no, not anymore.

[A]

We moved.

[B]

We moved.

[A]

Yeah, we just talked about that. We moved.

[B]

But I'm like, they're. They were my bosses.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they also have, like, homes and families, so we don't all live in, like, one big Pee Wee's Playhouse type situation, which seemed to be kind of the perception a lot.

[A]

I will sometimes See, people just, you know, looking for Easter eggs in these tiktokers lives, and it's such good pr and I can't seem to hack that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm gonna start saying kind of more ominous things, I think.

[B]

Well, I thought about before being like, should we kind of start alluding to the fact that we're gonna get divorced?

[A]

Wait, did I talk to you about this?

[B]

Getting divorced?

[A]

Yeah, but meaning, no. Did I talk to you about this idea?

[B]

What?

[A]

No. That's so funny that you just said that. That's so weird. Literally, yesterday I was on my walk and I was like, what if we, like, obviously we wouldn't do this, but what if we, like, faked a really messy divorce, but then we were like, we're going through the divorce, but we're still doing the podcast. I was like, we'd blow up. So sad. We, like, don't at all. It's like, no one cares.

[B]

I have thought about that before of, like, what if either we got divorced or one of us died?

[A]

Well, I ha. I've thought about that. I've thought about if we got divorced. And I've told you what I would do if we got divor.

[B]

We'd keep doing the podcast for at

[A]

least a period of time.

[B]

Cash cow.

[A]

I mean, I would be like, if you cheated on me, I would make you come say it. I would make like, the. Who did that? Tell all. You can cut this if you don't want to talk about this. But the Try guys, remember he did that.

[B]

Oh, that's fine. Ned Fulmer.

[A]

You know, what you talk about. I don't know. I don't. But he.

[B]

Y' all know we love the Try guys. Not Ned.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know anything about that world about him or who he was. When I learned about him was through that. But him and his wife, his ex wife did that?

[B]

No, I think. Are they. Well, let's see. Hold on.

[A]

They have to.

[B]

I mean, I don't know if the

[A]

divorce has been finalized, but I don't think they're sticking it out.

[B]

Kinky Born.

[A]

But they did that. I didn't watch it, but I saw clips of. They did a podcast episode where she was just talking to him about what it felt like to divorce him. And he was kind of being like, yeah, it was really hard on me. I was like, this is crazy, but I would make you do that. Because people kept being like, why would they do this? And I'm like, Because one of them was like, you owed me this, and I guarantee, because I probably got so much money, and I would be like, you have to come on, and you have to say that you cheated on me, and then I'm gonna get all the adsense for that episode, and I would do the same. If I cheated on you, I would come say it on the podcast.

[B]

Well, that's really brave of you, baby. Thank you. They're. They're separated, but they're not legally divorced.

[A]

Yeah. But that takes a long time, and I bet they have a lot of financial stuff they have to figure out.

[B]

Not for rich people, though.

[A]

No, I think even more so, because also, this is based on nothing. I'm not even going to say allegedly, because it's not alleged. I know nothing about this situation at all. But I just could get a vibe that, like, things aren't going to be so cut and dry. If I fudge you over, I would be like, whatever we need to do to set you up, we do. Like, I'm not trying to. Honestly, if you fudged me over, I'm not trying to, like, fiscally take stuff away from people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. In the past, even when I've had issues with someone, I'm not ever trying to like with their money, but some people really are. Some people really can't. Some people really want to do that. So that's not something that feels satisfying to me.

[B]

Yeah, we're not really big into corporal punishment.

[A]

No. I'm just not allowed outside, and I'm not allowed to eat red meat, and I'm not allowed to.

[B]

That's your own fault. You did not do a good job taking care of your lupus. And I would bring stuff up to you, and then you would be like, leave me alone.

[A]

So if I died. What about the podcast? She said you thought about that.

[B]

You never thought about that.

[A]

I thought about it. I would do kind of like the Daily show did. I'd be like, surprise guests. We're going to do a new host.

[B]

New host every week, see who slots

[A]

in the best, see who fits the vibe the best. And then, you know, eventually just keep that roundup because nobody fit. Nobody is as good as you. And then we just go back. Then I bring your ghost back, like Jon Stewart, and I just have you do it again.

[B]

That's really sweet, baby. Thank you. No, I thought about it because obviously, I have a lot of intrusive thoughts because I have obsessive compulsive disorder, but I have. Sometimes it will pop in my mind, like, oh, my God. If something. If one of Us died. How much stupid stuff the other one would have to deal with that we wouldn't want to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know, sometimes I'm like, should I look into those things like preemptively just to be safe? Because I'm like, I just imagine like, you know, you die very suddenly in a car accident and then I'm like, oh my God. But I have to do an ad read for dude wipes.

[A]

So I'm gonna tell you right now, babe, what happens in that scenario is you message your team and you say, my wife very suddenly died. And then pretty much everything's cleared from your calendar. I've had that. Even when my dad passed away, I messaged my team. I was like, my dad passed away. I actually didn't need, you know, me. I was like trying to just push through it. So I was like, no, I wanna work, I wanna keep working. It's gonna help me like be distracted. But they were like, we'. Even when my sister passed away. Yeah. They were like, you just will clear everything. That's what happened. You would not need to do a dude wipes ad read.

[B]

But.

[A]

But we'd love to. Dude wipes.

[B]

I think about how when my appendix exploded back in New York and I was single, so I was like by myself. I wasn't in a partnership. And I'm very lucky because like Colin took very good care of me and our friends Stephanie and Sarah really helped. Like so many people did so much for me during that time. I'm so lucky because I have so many great friends. But I was not like in a partnership where someone shared like 50 of the load of the things that you have to do. My appendix exploded. I was on bed rest for six, eight weeks and I couldn't work because I was touring and I was teaching at the time. But I didn't have any, like, I didn't have like a normal full time job like a lot of people. So I don't have medical leave, I don't have sick time or whatever. So I just lost like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars worth of money because I was sick. And I, I was like, I guess that's kind of what would happen to us. I mean, luckily we're in like a more financial. I was going to say there's blaring

[A]

difference between you right out of college and you know, which is that you're not in the same financial position. Also, I guess supposedly if I die, you probably will get money. I'm not supposed to tell my partner that because Then they'll murder me.

[B]

But why would I get money? Well, if I died, you would get money because I have life insurance. You don't have life insurance.

[A]

Yeah, but you'd just get everything in my bank account.

[B]

I already have that we share.

[A]

Okay, but it wouldn't go away. I'm saying, like. And I would be spending less on takeout and stuff.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Honestly, with what I spend on takeout, you probably never have to work again.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

No, you just be fine.

[B]

No, but you know what I mean. I, Like, I'm.

[A]

What?

[B]

I have a lot of negative thoughts about that.

[A]

What I worry about more in that same world is that we'd be so emotionally insane that we would make truly wild decisions. Like, I feel like I could see if you died being so distraught, obviously, that I'm like, no, I'd like to do an episode and it's just me.

[B]

Abel, roll the cameras. No, I feel the exact same way.

[A]

And I'm like, today I'm gonna be speaking directly to this sock that I've painted Jordan's face on. And I'm gonna be doing a role play as my therapist. And this is all gonna be. I'm gonna be like Trisha Paytas on the floor of her kitchen.

[B]

Like, it's gonna be. It's like one day after the other one has died. And. No, that's exactly how I feel.

[A]

Like, I feel I'm making more money than I've ever made and I'm gonna be absolutely insane.

[B]

I mean, the episode goes viral for sure.

[A]

Yeah. And then I'm on Broadway. I. Who cares? Cry on the kitchen floor.

[B]

Well, why was crying?

[A]

She was mentally unstable.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

She was very unwell. She was. She was always crying. I mean, she. She was mentally. I haven't deep dived enough to like, say for sure what's going on, but she talks about it now. She recently talked about just like, she got a lot of help, but she was really unwell for a while.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

I mean, not really it's hard because it's like, really unwell. But it's like, well, it's hard when you're unwell, but then you also. Your job is to make money on the Internet. So I also think she was, like, probably capitalizing on. I think a lot of people are as unwell as she was going. People can relate to going through something like that. But it's different when you're also, like, able to live stream yourself and get a million dollars. So I think it's a really tight, scary, tightrope to walk.

[B]

I think that's fair. Well, God willing, nothing bad will happen to either one of us. And I know it won't because I do all my little rituals.

[A]

Oh, dear. Jordan, we've got to stop that. We gotta stop doing this.

[B]

As always, another incredible episode. Thank you so much for watching.

[A]

Thank you so much. If you are listening on Apple Podcast, Spotify anywhere you get your podcast, make sure to review and rate us. It helps us so much. I think you can join our channel or something. Yeah, you can follow the podcast and that's really appreciated. Join our Patreon. We've got so much fun stuff going on over there.

[B]

Happy Monday. Bye.